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We don’t always know exactly how we come off to others. You might consider yourself to be super friendly, while a stranger on the bus might say you look intimidating while listening to music and wearing sunglasses. At the same time, behavior that you might consider perfectly normal may actually be making those around you extremely uncomfortable.
One curious Reddit user recently asked others to share some common things men do that come off as creepy, and women and men had plenty to say in the replies. Below, you’ll find some of the most popular responses, so enjoy reading through and be sure to upvote the behaviors you wish men would stop exhibiting as well.
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#1
Dude is no one gonna say unsolicited d**k pics? Like y’all be airdropping them. I had a guy tell me that women appreciate it cause they wanna know what they’re working with. Nobody gonna work that s**t if that’s your opening.
Abel 2 years ago
I see it childish and inmature.Like boys discovering they have a penis
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Saint_Zipcodus 2 years ago
My therory is: It's about the power they perceive in the transgression and in the non-consent. Forcing somebody to look at their junk. They feel like they get away with it because if it happens via a chat app, it's semi-anonymous.
ॐBoyGanesh 2 years ago
This. It’s definitely a power play or they’re so socially neutered & impotent they derive momentary agency & sense of control by forcing someone to see their vestigial organ.
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Gabby Ghoul 2 years ago
I've never known any woman who asked for or was turned on by d**k pics.
Sand Ers 2 years ago
The modern day flasher has ditched the trenchcoat and cut off pants legs, and gone digital. It's exactly the same behavior, with exactly the same motivation.
Apachebathmat 2 years ago
I would always reply with “why send me a picture of the second most ugly part of your body” thankfully I’m too old for anyone to want to send me this bleugh
tw 72 2 years ago
I still don't understand why a person would ever ask for or want one...
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Deborah B 2 years ago
Save a couple, and respond to unsolicited d**k pics with other unsolicited d**k picks.
Tamiko 2 years ago
Friend of mine, she's MTF. With her full permission, I use a picture taken 3 years after her top surgery and 2 years before her bottom surgery to send as reply to any unsolicited d**k pics I receive.
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Sunshine Lady 2 years ago
If you send such pic, I will know I'm working with someone I don't like.
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#2
When they insult you once you reject them.
Tee Rat 2 years ago
Had a friend I grew up with claim every woman that turned him down was a lesbian. "Yeah, the last ten women you've talked to are lesbians."
- 2 years ago
Worst gaydar ever. On the other hand, if he had first asked their sexual orientation, then been turned down by the straight ones, he would have been forced to admit that he was turning them into lesbians. To quote feminist Gloria Steinem: “Are you my alternative?”
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Nikki Sevven 2 years ago
It's childish. *pout* "Well, I didn't want to play with you anyway, so there!"
CanadianDimes 2 years ago
Saying something like “well you’re ugly anyway!” Ok? Why were you talking to me if you think I’m so unattractive then?
Michelle C 2 years ago
Yup. I’ve been on the receiving end of this by men and have seen other women do it, too. If somebody says no, they mean no! What’s the point of digging yourself a deeper hole?
Rob Culliford 2 years ago (edited)
I've never understood this. There's no need for it. I've been rejected a few times........it stings but you get over it. I actually asked a friend of mine from uni out once... I soon learned that she 'didn't see me that way'. It hurt, but fine. A few months later (when it didn't hurt so much) she texted me actually apologising for turning me down and to say that she was also sorry that she'd met someone. I was confused by this, and said 'all I've ever wanted was for you to be happy and if he makes you happy then that's great'. They've now been married 6 years and have two kids that I am "uncles" to. I even attended the wedding happily. She brought him to meet me once and as soon as I saw him, I knew those two were meant to be and we've been friendly ever since.
#3
Telling you to smile
Multa Nocte 2 years ago
I smile when I'm amused or when I'm happy, not on command because "it looks nice when women smile."
IDK_Something 2 years ago
Yes! I always offer up the ugliest smile I can muster when someone tells me I look better when I smile. I don't get repeat requests this way lol
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Roan The Demon Kitty 2 years ago
"you look nicer when you smile" yea, and you look nicer when you shut the f**k up. (or rather, when I don't have to look at you at all >.>)
Petra Schaap 2 years ago
or even worse, when your male clients ask why you look so angry, and you have to stay polite.
Tee Rat 2 years ago
Slap them upside their head and then smile. "Is that better?"
Load More Replies... Kelly Scott 2 years ago
I met a customer once when I was off the clock and he told me to smile. I told him I wasn't being paid to shine when I wasn't working, so tough darts on him.
Michelle C 2 years ago
The only times I welcome being asked to smile: practice for a public speaking class/anything on stage, being photographed, and when someone is goofing off with me. Otherwise, I smile when I want to do that and let others do the same as they will. 😀
#4
Lingering/being flirtatious when a woman is at her job. Shes smiling because she has to, she's talking to you because she has to. Yea, maybe she's into you, but the fact there's no way to really know since she's basically forced to interact with you, it comes off creepy.
quentariel 2 years ago
I've been proposed at my job in the middle of the day. This quite a bit older man told that he's been looking me for a while already and that I'm just the type of girl he likes. I politely declined in my customer-service mode, but it was creepy as hell.
Black Cat 2 years ago
Creepy as hell because he doesn't even know you which means he's 'in love' with the fantasy he has been building up about you.
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Genuine question here - so I run a shop, there’s a guy that comes in every now and then and each time we’ve chatted a lot (so much so that one day that I lost track of time and ended up closing late) I have a major crush on him (even though I’m in my 40s) he’s lovely and I get the vibe he’s interested but I’m not sure. I don’t even know if he’s definitely single. Am I a creep if I ask him for a coffee sometime? Us ladies worry about this stuff too!
Black Cat 2 years ago
Nope, not a creep unless he declines and you persist. Then it's creepy.
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Christian Golden 2 years ago
If you feel you MUST make an advance to a woman in a professional setting? Be polite, be discreet AND be brief! Example, a woman once came to my door canvassing for a political candidate (whom I supported). When she was done with her pitch, I said, "I know you have a job to do but I think I'd enjoy getting to know you better. Would you be interested in getting a coffee some time?" She accepted and we dated for about a year and a half.
SuperChicken 2 years ago
Of course, they move away when a customer comes in - but lingers around; then talks to you again after that customer (who walked-in) leaves. Yeah, way creepy as heck.
Abigail Strong 2 years ago
THIS! I work at the front counter in a restaurant, and this one guy comes in all the time. I remembered his name (from a past joke), and the most recent time he comes in he is hard core flirting with me. This man has gray hair. I'M SIXTEEN. Once he says, "Do you play with your hair all the time or just when I come in?" like DUDE. He's also creepy to another guy I work with. But after the interaction he gave me a 5 dollar tip so yeah.
Tracy Wallick 2 years ago
I had a man old enough to be my grandfather do this when I was a cashier at a dollar store; the way he looked at me and talked to me made me feel like a piece of meat. I was 17.
Nice Beast Ludo 2 years ago
I got a stalker this way. He followed me home and had to be banned from the store
#5
Sit next to you when you're the only two people in a place with many, many seats.
Bruce Horton 2 years ago
Or as shown in the photo taking up a seat for your backpack, regardless of gender
Christopher Bowers 2 years ago
Yep that is something I tend to never ever do, unless its someone I know and they ask me to first. Otherwise I will sit away from others regardless of gender. If there is only a seat next to someone available and no other seats are available, I will either ask if they mind if I sit down there (only if I have to wait a while) otherwise I will just stand around or go outside and phone call someone or something, hoping they will be one available when I am done.
SuperChicken 2 years ago
I hate when this happens. That's when I move and sit up front, closer to the driver.
#6
When I was 19 I was a phone girl at a local pizza place. I would answer the phone and take people’s orders for carry out or delivery. One time this guy called and said he was placing an order for delivery. By the end of the order he changed his mind and said he wanted to order carry out.
The dude shows up and my coworker helps him and he says “you’re not the girl I talked to on the phone. I want to talk to that girl.” I realize he’s talking about me and I ask what’s wrong. He then tells me he thinks I have a really soothing voice and should do ASMR. I was like ok that’s weird but relatively harmless?
The guy gets his food then leaves. We can see him sitting in his car for like 15 minutes. Then he came back in the store with a map and started asking me a bunch of weird questions for directions to somewhere. I said “why can’t you just use google maps? I see you have an iPhone” and point to his phone. Then as I point I see him try to hide the screen. He had the audio recorder pulled up! This weirdo came back in the store with a thinly veiled excuse of asking for directions because he was trying to record my voice!!! It was so creepy. I told him “wait one second” and went to the back and told some coworkers what was going on. A friend of mine who worked in the kitchen, a 6’2 muscle head walked out and was like “IM GREAT WITH DIRECTIONS. MY GIRLFRIEND IS TERRIBLE AT THEM (while gesturing to me). LET ME HELP YOU!” Suddenly the guy didn’t need directions anymore.
So yeah. I’m going to say whatever that was, that was creepy.
Magazine 2 years ago
The fact that your coworker immediatley got the situation and understood he had to refer to you as his gf is great!
Ansi 2 years ago
Also really sad. How he immediately knew that her being taken by another man was the solution.
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Mrs. Ginger McSarcasm 2 years ago (edited)
All women need a coworker like that and an understanding partner that won't get mad at Saud coworker. (If they have a partner, I'm not saying all women need a partner.)
Sally Signup 2 years ago
It's bad that my first thought is sampling your voice to clone in some AI program, but it's more likely he had a fetish or something.
Michelle C 2 years ago
Good for her coworker for helping her, especially when he could have been rude and said “we have work to do” or something…
Metalhead Turtle 🇺🇦 2 years ago
That's creepy. I would've made an attempt to get him banned from the store.
#7
I’m a guy but a semi-frequent bar patron. Whenever guys ask bartenders what time they get off that they’ve had little to no interaction with is incredibly creepy. Gives off “I’ll be waiting for you in the parking lot” vibes.
Lauren Bridger 2 years ago
As a former bartender this is absolutely correct. Anyone in the service industry that feels uncomfortable walking alone to your car, ask acoworker to walk to your car with you. Trust your instinct.
Nikki Sevven 2 years ago
When I was a bartender at a neighborhood bar, I worked the closing shift every night. The regulars took turns waiting while I closed up so they could walk me to my car (which was parked behind the building in a fairly secluded small parking lot). Amazing guys.
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WindySwede 2 years ago
"I'm teaching a black belt jujitsu class right after my shift". Jesus crust, this is why manners need to be taught. If parents obviously can't do it, it needs to be done in school!
Tessa 2 years ago
“ I get off the same time my brother is done with his knife throwing lesson, he is always picking me up.”
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SkyBlueandBlack 2 years ago (edited)
"After your bedtime" has always been my standard response.
#8
Not backing off when a woman indicates in any way whatsoever verbally or physically she isn’t interested, yet they continue or think they can continue to harass you or change your mind
Leon Mendoza 2 years ago
Under risk of being downvoted to oblivion. This is still a reaction that until very recently the way for a woman to behave was to play hard to get (google it and some sites still has this as a relationship "tactic"). Men both have to learn to respect a "no" and that girls that play hard are not worth the effort of us braking our heads to figure out if is a real disinterest or a messed up behavior.
Batwench 2 years ago
If they use that as a tactic, then the bloke has dodged a bullet. Lordi only knows what crappo they will pull in a relationship.
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Kelly Scott 2 years ago
This also applies to people who think you should have kids, find Jesus, join their MLM, etc etc. None of them can take no for an answer.
John Dilligaf 2 years ago
you can blame this partly on pop culture. Boy likes girl, girl rejects boy, boy persists and stalks girl until girl realizes the error of her ways and gives in, is the major feature in almost every "romantic" or "rom-com" movie and TV show out there
bbfa 2 years ago
I am married and picked up a part time job and a guy kept asking me out and to go to Vegas with him. He just would not stop. Boss was too busy talking about Jesus saving him from drugs to do anything. The owner had a talk with him and he still did it. I got let go because I wasn't open to sexual harassment OR interested in hearing about Jesus every morning.
Michael Largey 2 years ago
Romance is like a tug of war. It only works if both people are pulling the other in their direction.
#9
Hey where do you work? Oh which one? Yeah there's like six of them.....which one do you work at? No I won't show up at your work lol hahaha hey..... hey.... hey.... did you block me? What did I do wrong?
Azolane 2 years ago
I had a guy follow me on the street. I asked him if he was going to follow me to my house. When he said yes, I told him ok then, come with me. Took him to the police station.
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#10
Flirting with/hitting on women who are at work, commenting on our breasts/a*s, making any type of comment referring to a sexual act to a woman you are not imitate with, and not taking no for an answer
Michael Largey 2 years ago (edited)
Guys, never say anything to a woman in public that you wouldn't want a man to say to you in prison.
Carla Campbell 2 years ago
Ugh. I worked an admin job in law enforcement. One of the captains somehow got my phone number. He'd call at all hours "just to talk". He knew where I lived & knew I lived alone. He walked into my office one morning, looked at my chest, and asked "How are the twins?" I went to MY boss, who went to HIS boss. He never bothered me again, but I was always looking around for him.
- 2 years ago (edited)
I'm glad the bosses took measures against him, but I don't blame you for being wary. I knew of a cop who started stalking his ex-girlfriend. She was lucky to be a prosecutor and in a good position to tell him directly why he should leave her alone.
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Alexia 2 years ago (edited)
Recently there was an outrageous situation in my city. The employers of a pizza restaurant (including the owner who encouraged this) used to catcall women who were passing by their restaurant and to show cartons with "score", based on their physical appearance. Like, if you looked like a top model and wore sexy, stylish clothes, you'd get 9 or 10 points. Those who wore jeans, large outfits or were not particularly attractive would get 6, 5 or lower. A girl complained about this on social media and the story became viral. The idiots stopped doing this when somebody pointed out this was harassment and may lead to legal consequences. But it was sickening to see how many men defended such practice, claiming that if you as a woman got "high scores", this was not harassment but a compliment.
Sarah Kathrin Matsoukis 2 years ago
Is it okay to compliment guys beards? I sometimes see epic ones but I don't wanna be weird?
Andy Cran 2 years ago (edited)
yes of course, respectful compliments work both ways.....not all guys will take it as a come on just as not all women will take a respectful compliment as a come on.....well I hope that's the case
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Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago
Turning everything into something sexual. Even the most banal comment is twisted into a sexual innuendo. I’m not talking banter between two people who are into each other. No. I’m talking about a guy you barely know, or don’t know at all. Gross.
Andy Cran 2 years ago
my neighbour does this..... she's 66 ,I'm not sure if she does it to and "fit in" with us other men on the block (we live in a block of 8 small scale social housing flats/apartments,in a nice quiet peaceful residential area in the UK) ,she is the only woman here,we all have respect for her and love for her,all platonic,we all look out for each other (pretty rare nowadays) , we've all lived here on average 10yrs (some of us longer/shorter term tenants,we all know each other quite well as a result.... she's the only woman I've known to turn everything into a sexual innuendo,we all like a laugh and a joke with each other,it's only her that does it , bizarrely, rest of the guys don't display behaviours.....I've asked her why and to please not ,not because I'm uncomfortable but because there's no need,us guys don't do it between ourselves..... really weird and thought I'd mention it
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BetterBitterButter 2 years ago
I worked in dealing with customers for a while. There were some creeps who never looked at my face while talking but just stared at my chest. Dude I have what your mother had! It made me feel so uncomfortable. Sometimes such creeps would ask useless questions just to linger around. In my experience most of such people were at least fifty years of age. I felt disgusted by the way they stared.
Randi (she/they/he) 2 years ago
I had a guy hug me without my consent once at work (the hug was along the area of my breasts)
DarkViolet 2 years ago
You should have screamed your head off. THAT would have stopped it.
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Kariali 2 years ago
Oh dear, I once was involved in a police mission (I worked for animal rescue and a dog was involved), only to later being approached by one of the police officers on facebook. He apparently found out my full name and just wanted to tell me that he was distracted by my nice a33. It was so creepy, as it would have been easy for him to find out where I live etc...
#11
Touch my waist to move by me. I'll drop kick you. There is no reason for it, and it makes me irate every single time.
Barbara Kayton 2 years ago
Oh I’m sorry did my elbow contact your stomach? I thought you were a creep trying to touch me.
Leo Domitrix 2 years ago
I actually do this. It's not even me being a biatch. I jsut react badly due to PTSD. You grab me, I floor you, it's how it works.
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Lawrencium 2 years ago
I approve of drop kicking being normalized as a socially acceptable response!
Me, Myself, and I 2 years ago
Woman here. If it's a crowded and noisy place, I'll put a finger gently on someone's shoulder where it meets the arm, not up near the neck. When they turn to look, smile and say "scuse me".
Strings 2 years ago
Ok, I'll put my hand up if I have to squeeze past someone (of any gender). But I always place my hand so it'll be mid-back, if contact does happen
Sandy Price 2 years ago
I've told plenty if dudes to back the fuq up off me unless the want to see what my knee to their nuts feels like.
Trish 2 years ago
Only once have I had someone touch my waist as they're passing by. They always do a full palm on the side of my a*s.
Thee8thsense 2 years ago
I had that happen all too frequently when I was younger, and finally decided to confront one guy by grabbing his hand and spinning around to face him while bending his fingers back as hard as I could, telling him to keep his fecking hands to himself. I dropped his hand and moved on, very glad that he didn't decide to escalate the situation. He had a pathetic look on his face, like a hurt little boy.
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The Darkest Timeline 2 years ago
I put my hand out (without touching them) while saying “pardon me” to keep my body from rubbing against anyone, male or female, when trying to squeeze through a tight spot.
#12
Stand an inch away from you when you're in a line
Kristiina 2 years ago
You should come to Finland. 2 to 3 metres of your own space where ever you go. Nobody will sit next to you in a bus unless they absolutely have to.
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Groaver Andout 2 years ago
This isn't a creepy guy thing. It's people who have no understanding of personal space.
Upstaged75 2 years ago
I will unapologetically swing my (heavy) purse back over my shoulder and then say "whoops, did I hit you?" to anyone who crowds my a$$. :)
Celtic Pirate Queen 2 years ago
I was in line at the grocery store and I could literally feel this rando breathing on me. I just turned around and said, "You wanna back the f*ck off me"? He seemed really surprised that I didn't want him standing in my space. Weirdo.
moon_magic 2 years ago
I like to 'accidentally' turn and whack them with my bag or elbow. Then I apologise loudly to draw attention to us both and say 'I'll stand further away'.
Hey! 2 years ago
I was at the library renewing my card and the librarian had to tell the guy behind me to stand back a few times until she took her time serving me and he went to another line. You're not supposed to be behind someone at the desk, there is personal stuff being said; it's a Y line and he wasn't there at all.
#13
I don't like it when men refer to "the wife" like she's "the lawn mower" or "the tv" or something
Azolane 2 years ago
My ex husband didn't say "the wife" but "my wife" all the time, and it drove me nuts when he did it in front of me when talking to someone we both knew well, like that's all I was to him and I didn't have a name.
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similarly 2 years ago
I frequently use "my wife" or "my older/younger son" in conversations with people who won't recognize the name.
Mrs. Ginger McSarcasm 2 years ago
"My wife" is different than "the wife". "My wife" says she's a human being who you're married to and (hopefully) love and respect. "The wife" is basically calling her an object
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Imreallyjustaghost 2 years ago
Same for when it's reversed. I have a friend who strictly refers to her spouse as "husband". She'll be like "husband get me my wtaer" "husband can you do x y,z" and it always just came across as demeaning 😒
FloralDangerNoodle 2 years ago
My husband refers to me as 'the REAL boss.'
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The Problem With Censorship Is ******* 2 years ago
I often call myself that, jokingly, like "gimme it, the wife has a solution for everything!" Though I must say it sounds better in Dutch, as "de vrouw" just translates to "the woman".
Judy Reynolds 2 years ago
I used to refer to Husband by name, but so many people said "who's that", I simply changed his name when I refer to him. Plus, he does not want his name to appear in social media.
Tiny Dancer 2 years ago
Much better than "my old lady" (and he was two years older than me, the nerve!) or the "old ball and chain" as my late hubby would say. He knew it burned my toast, so he'd just do it more, of course, lol.
Andy Cran 2 years ago
err indoors, popular in the 80's in the UK ( TV shows like Minder, only fools and horses are largely responsible)....I probably go as far as "my other half" "my partner" or just "my girlfriend" but if the person I'm talking with knows us both well ....then I would (amazingly) just use her actual name * shock horror*
Load More Replies... Lene 2 years ago
My mom accepts that he husband calls her so many bad things. And when I informed her that I will not let my daughters hear those words when we video call her she looked shocked. She actually told me that he means it in a sweet way. I just don't understand how b***h is nice in any way.... 🤨 (I gave up trying to support her in that relationship. She brought me up to be her emotional support... but with that relationship to her husband... I just can't be supportive anymore.).
Bored Birgit 2 years ago
"The wife", "the husband" is a Twitter (X) thing and meant jokingly. In Germany: "Der Mann hat ..." oder "Die Frau ist ..." Sometimes I use it in real talk as well, it's always meant funny. Don't downvote me, please.
#14
Me: "I'm married." *Shows ring*
Random guy: "I don't believe you. They all say that."
Then it just gets creepy because no matter what you say they just don't believe anything and keep pressing you to leave with them. That hyper aggressiveness is creepy.
Scar Scar 2 years ago
“I don’t believe you”?? Even if they are lying that means they don’t want anything, leave them alone
Tee Rat 2 years ago
This guy has a hole in his basement floor and a bottle of lotion to rub on it's skin.
Load More Replies... censorshipsucks 2 years ago
Really sad that women have to do this in the first place. Like, wear a ring to show they are not interested. I mean... how about let women just show that they are interested or not? And if they do not show they are interested, assume they are not interested and just interact with them like they are actually colleagues and not sex objects?
Andy Frobig 2 years ago
"ok, explanation B is that you creep me out enough that I would lie about being married to get rid of you, do you prefer that?"
Rocket Surgeon 2 years ago
If "they all" say that, maybe it's not them that's the problem, dude.
Lee Banks 2 years ago
Such a shame we have to state our relationship status, instead of "I'm not interested."
Andy Frobig 2 years ago
True, some creepers might think "I would, but" is implied before "I'm married" and think they just have to try a little harder. It's time for "no" to be enough
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BannedFromABoatShow 2 years ago
Why do we need to prove a relationship status to get left alone? So sick of it.
Leo Domitrix 2 years ago
I have a wedding ring on my left hand, a five-year anniversary ring on my right, and my wedding band is a twenty-five-year anniversary commemorative band, btw, but hey! They'll still say, "Nah, you can't be married." Yes, I can. Let me introduce you to him... Fortunately, I'm now gray at the temples, so I get this a lot less. Thank God for gray hair!
The Other Guest 2 years ago
"Oh, you don't believe me but are still asking me out. Why would you want to date a liar?"
#15
Men looking at women and licking their lips. JFC.. creepy,sleazy creeps.
Edit to add. There's a difference between just licking your lips and the sleazy creepy way some men do it.
Christian Golden 2 years ago
JFC! This happens? On behalf of 50.24% of people, I offer apologies.
John Murphy 2 years ago
i personally loathe whoever wrote this, God forbid my lips are dry and God forbid you think that you are hot enough that I want to lick my lips for you
KittyMommy 2 years ago
Dude, normal dry lips thing is fine. What she's talking about is guys who are damn near drooling and slobbering all over themselves as they feel you up with their eyes. Had a delivery guy who'd do this at a job I used to have. No, I ain't that hot and I know it. I'd make sure one of my coworkers was in the room with me if this guy was there. Just really gave off vibes that he had someone chained up in his basement, and you didn't want to be next. Wasn't just my imagination, my (male) coworkers were creeped out by him too and wouldn't be alone with him
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Talk to me (a male) about how much they disrespect women like i'm "in on it"
especially if i've never met the guy
Luke Branwen 2 years ago
This is why I find it so hard to interact with men (even though I'm a man myself). All that machistic bravado, sex obsession and treating women like sentient f#ck dolls is genuinely making me nauseous.
Black Cat 2 years ago
At least some of them think we're sentient and not just an object.
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He's a nut 2 years ago
Or using the "Alpha Sigma Male" BS as an excuse to mistreat their girlfriends. My gender is one twisted race. I cut off a few of my friends specifically for this reason. Ladies, We're sorry.
Lee Banks 2 years ago
I'm genuinely curious as to often this happens. As a woman with a ton of male friends, some dudes will speak to me as if I'm "in on it". They immediately get banned from my workplace, but it doesn't happen often. If they feel comfortable talking to me like that... wow. How pervasive is this?
TotallyNOTaFox 2 years ago (edited)
I'm lucky enough to only have met very few of such guys in my life
Andy Cran 2 years ago
come visit where I live, they're everywhere,a small coastal town mentality here (Uk's most easterly town),it's always been the same here,I'm 52 now, left the town when I was 17 and moved back (for a quiet life) 14yrs ago and the mentality has remained exactly the same (albeit there are a few switched on individuals ,few and far between)
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Laura Gillette 2 years ago
What is a good way for men to shut this down without the other men scoffing at him?
Black Cat 2 years ago
Oh really? I quite like women. Or, some of the best people I know are women. Or, some of the smartest people I know are women. Probably be met with an awkward silence, but still it gets the point across.
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#17
Personally I find it creepy when men insist that only unattractive men can be creepy. Not only do they assume that women only pay attention to hot guys and immediately write off the rest, but also that there's nothing wrong with their own behaviour that being better looking wouldn't fix.
censorshipsucks 2 years ago (edited)
Yep sadly this is true, at least in my experience. I regret to say it. I was a turd. But I got away with stuff and was really successful unlike my unattractive friends. Nowadays however I treat women with more respect than I do fellow men. Because I regret being a turd.
LonelyLittleLeafSheep 2 years ago
Yes, I was just going to mention that some of the most successful serial killers were attractive "boy-next-door" types.
Load More Replies... Sarah Kathrin Matsoukis 2 years ago
Maybe that's because they're willing to put up with a lot more psycho behavior if it's coming from a hot looking woman themselves
Mimi M 2 years ago
The first part is not true - attractive men and women both get away with behavior that others would not. However the second part is also true - average/unnattractive people blame their lack of success on just looks when it's also because of poor social skills (which includes targeting women that are very dissimilar to them).
#18
I (31, F) was walking up the stairs at a train station carrying a large suitcase the other day. A guy wanted to help and just took my suitcase from me without asking. I had to tell him 3 times I was ok and didn’t need his help. The suitcase wasn’t particularly heavy, just big. Don’t just grab other people’s stuff without asking! I know he just wanted to help but still!
Not-a-Clue (she/her) 2 years ago
It really doesn't take much to just ask "would you like a hand with that?" and accept the person's response if they say "no thanks." That's basic respect.
Alicat Wombat 2 years ago
Read “The Gift of Fear” there’s a whole section on the red flag that is someone insisting on helping you when you say you don’t need help
Aimee Parrott 2 years ago
I was just going to post about this! First of all, that person's not respecting your boundaries. Second, it's a predatory tactic.
Load More Replies... Deborah B 2 years ago
"May I help you carry that?" is helpful. "Helping" without asking or after rejected, is either holding your bag hostage, or showing off.
Jared Robinson 2 years ago
Nope someone does that you start hitting them and calling them a thief. they could have been trying to lure you somewhere they could have gotten you alone.
Vul Va 2 years ago
"someone does that you start hitting them" - I can't stress enough that recommending a woman escalates an uncomfortable/intrusive but non-violent situation to violence is a Very Bad Idea.
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Diana Schlafer 2 years ago
"The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker. Chapter one literally starts with a similar story (forced teaming, won't take no for an answer).
Brazen 2 years ago
Not the same as a suitcase, but a woman did this to us on a nature trail when we were out walking our new puppy. I was still trying to train her to sit when someone walked by, because she was overly friendly and liked to jump on people. She yanked the leash right out of my hand, and said "this is what you're supposed to do." I was so shocked by it that it took me a few seconds to realize that this stranger actually did that, and when I snapped out of it, all I could say was "give me my dog back." I do not understand people sometimes.
Oskar vanZandt 2 years ago
I like to offer my help to anyone I see struggling to carry something, or opening a door or picking something off the ground they've dropped... Etc.
#19
Asking if I live alone. Just find this question so creepy intrusive like can’t imagine they asked another male this question.
Jared Robinson 2 years ago
I have never ever ever once in my life been possessed to ask this question. Cause if you aren't a f*****g creeper the answer doesn't matter.
Sarah Kathrin Matsoukis 2 years ago
I always say no, I have roommates, they don't need to know that these roommates are in fact rabbits
Kim 2 years ago
Actually they do ask males this question and that is why they dont think it is weird. You ask a guy if he lives alone, oh cool dude, so chill to have your own place. You ask a woman and its instantly creepy but they dont see it that way.
Tim 2 years ago
That may be true, but it's about 50-50 that it's innocuous or creepy.
Load More Replies... quentariel 2 years ago
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Jessica Jones 2 years ago
Just me, my collection of bear traps, and my roomates, Smith and Wesson
SlytherPuff 2 years ago
Actually, you should just say yes if you have a pet or something, if he asks the nane just say its name. he really can't say anything against it, as long as it's not like fluffy or something. did this with my cat and it worked!
StrangeOne 2 years ago
It just occurred to me that I women at work have asked me this question, among many other invasive questions, and aloud around others. Please do not do this. It's none of anyone's business.
ThéveNinja (she/her) 2 years ago
I was asked this once…then he asked me if I walk around naked. The worst part was that he was coworker, and this was less than 5 years ago.
#20
Flirting with girls in school uniforms
Deborah B 2 years ago
Unless you are a boy in a school uniform, and even then, lead with "What year/grade are you?" because a 17 year old hitting on a 14 year old is creepy too.
SadieCat17 (she/her) 2 years ago
As a once high school girl, it's still very creepy when they lead with that
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TruthoftheHeart 2 years ago
We need to get rid of school girl uniforms and cheerleader uniforms with the tiny skirts and put kids into more appropriate attire anyways. I'm tired of overly exposed sexualized outfits being put on minors
Becky Samuel 2 years ago
Schoolgirls have always fiddled with and altered their uniforms to make them more 'sexy'. If you find yourself sexualising minor children because of their clothing, that's a *you* problem.
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AnnaRachelle 2 years ago
I saw my ex staring at girls in school uniform when we entered a supermarket. I paid attention shopping and it wasn't my imagination. When leaving the shop, there was a group of school girls just chatting right outside...he did it again. These gurls were only like 14 years old. He was early 30's. After nearly 7 years of abuse that was the final straw. I was 24. Still makes me feel sick to my stomach
Theo Blackwood 2 years ago
I’ve had to yell at a man outside a pub for that. He thought there was no problem with it because ‘he went to that school’. You’re in your 30s trying to talk to these young girls.
#21
When men ask, "Where's my hug?"
StrangeOne 2 years ago
I've heard this asked by family members, too. It's usually said between people who are already close and normally hug.
WindySwede 2 years ago
No need to hug someone there either, if it feels creepy or so?
Load More Replies... Upstaged75 2 years ago (edited)
I knew a guy we all called Creepy Steve for this exact reason. He was always hitting on women young enough to be his daughter - myself included. It took me a while to realize he wasn't just a really friendly dude. :(
Andy Cran 2 years ago
if you need to ask for a hug that way then obviously they didn't want to hug you in the place.....some relationships (included platonic ones) depending on the dynamics it's not even questioned which is lovely of course,and great to have that connection with someone ......I recently bumped into a dear old friend I hadn't seen or spoke to for nearly 20yrs ,life happened,it was fantastic to see her again (I thought it going to be awkward as obviously I wanted to hug her) before I had a chance to seek consent (those split seconds in one's mind,yes the mind does work that quickly) we were both hugging, which was awesome and non creepy,me being male always wanting to hug someone correctly consentially even with people in close to....it can be a minefield,it only takes one wrong word or action to get it completely wrong
CORGI QUEEN 2 years ago
even if it is a friend or family you aren't entitled to a hug from me. I personally do not enjoy physical contact so this makes me icky
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Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
Double standard again. I only hug people I'm sure won't file harassment charges. Stuck up feminists need not apply.
#22
Ask you out while you are at work or a situation in which you cannot leave.
Deborah B 2 years ago
If you really think she's into you, write down your number and a quick note "I'd like to get to know you away from your work. Text me or give me a call if that's mutual." Give it to her as you leave, so she doesn't have to deal with you if it's a no.
The Other Guest 2 years ago
Respectfully, I disagree. If someone did that to me & I wasn't interested, I would be dreading the next time he comes in. I'd be wondering if he's hanging out in the parking lot waiting for me to leave. Just don't ask people out when they're at work.
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featherytoad 2 years ago
I had this happen. The first time he called my house. I think I was like 18 or 19 and still living at home. This was at the time of landlines and phone books. I told him that I had a bf. I thought that would be it. He proceeded to ask me out 2 more times at work. That third time I got pretty firm with him. He also asked a married woman with 3 kids out. Yes, he knew, as did everyone else, that she was married. He wound up committing suicide. He had other issues that I found out later about. He seemed like he was always angry and he rarely talked to anyone.
Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
You are scrapping the bottom of the barrel as you've already done this one before. Is the guy suppose to stalk her on her way back home. If he only see her at work where is he suppose to meet her.
#23
Ignoring personal boundaries and invading personal space without consent.
On a whim 2 years ago
I’m not up for anyone disrespecting my boundaries or personal space… I’d probably except friendly invasions from a four legged floof, but certainly no two legged ones!
Hey! 2 years ago (edited)
This might change depending of where you live. North America and China/India do not have the same norms, for example.
Sue User 2 years ago
So i almost fell off a train platform in the Netherlands because of this. We were talking and he kept getting closer and i kept moving back.
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Mobey Drunk 2 years ago
This one I do to an extent. I have a severe hearing loss. It's hereditary, almost everyone in my family is this way. Degenerative, so it's always going to get worse. There are times when I can't hear someone, so I get closer. It doesn't have anything to do with flirting. I'm just trying to understand what you're saying. It just unfortunately gets misread from what my real intentions are.
Sue User 2 years ago
I announce " i am sorry i cant hear you" before moving closer. Now that i have grey hair, it is accepted better.
Load More Replies... Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
Yet another rerun. Hugging, inch away from you in line, how many times are you going to recycle the same old c**p ?
#24
So casually steamroll your objections to their attentions. They'll drive you home, it's right around the corner. Nah, don't waste money on the app, he's going that way anyway! Don't worry, he's not *that* kind of guy, he's married!
Etc etc etc, until you hide in the restroom and call a friend or relative to pick you up instead.
setsuriseikou 2 years ago
I think some (hopefully a very small number) of them do have the idea, and that's exactly why they do what they do.
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I just say hehehehehe hehehehe 2 years ago (edited)
I was on my phone once in an elevator and I had my earbuds in and I didn't realize a random man was talking to me. He suddenly reached out and grabbed earbuds and took my phone and held them where I couldn't reach it and said "If you want them back take my phone number." And then scribbled down his number and gave it to me and when I was about to say. "Wait- I'm married" He kissed my hand and walked out not before turning around and throwing my phone and earbuds at me and saying "Call me, pretty girl" and I'm like WTF!
#25
Tell random women they don’t know to smile.
Carla Campbell 2 years ago
My daughter and her SO were in a checkout line when he told the cashier she should smile more. My daughter was mortified & punched him in the shoulder & told him to shut up.
TeenieMeanie 2 years ago
Told this by a random as I was minding my own business at Target. I flipped him the bird (ya’ll as tired as I am?) he proceeded to callme a B &a C and l threatened me with violence. My dude, I just needed laundry detergent.
Load More Replies... Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
You did this one already as well. Remember "telling women to smile" ?
#26
I am a guy and I deliver food but I have a girls name.
Guys are always waiting outside even though it's a contactless delivery and says to leave at door and sometimes they call me before I get there and try to hit on me but you're very disappointed and confused when it's a guy
One guy harassed me one time and I Kept $70 of his food And ate it myself
StrangeOne 2 years ago
I'm sometimes waiting outside my suite door or walking to the main lobby area to make sure the delivery guy isn't lost or in case he doesn't want to come up to my suite, despite using contactless. To me, contactless delivery is deemed just paying online. I don't want my food placed on the gross hallway floor.
Em 2 years ago
This is because drivers often have a hard time finding where they're supposed to be. I do it myself. If they're calling to hit on you yeah that's weird, but just standing there? I think you're reading into it too much, my dude.
Averysleepypanda 2 years ago
It depends. If he's noticed that only men do this, and not women, then I don't think he's reading jnto it. It's also not hard to believe based in my personal experience with men, as a a women.
Load More Replies... censorshipsucks 2 years ago
I find this post confusing. Does this guy (a) only deliver food to gay men or (b) does he have a woman's name?
#27
Let’s see, recently a dude asked me for directions. It was already late? I told him, I don’t know then walked away. He almost followed me home, I had to stop at a store. He was quiet too, I went to grab water. The minute I turned around he was behind me.
Jared Robinson 2 years ago
Ladies do not be afraid to call the police or hang out in brightly lit public areas. On behalf of my stupid dumb f**k gender/sex I'd like to apologize that we are not better. We should be better, but we are not. So please protect yourself ladies because the evil men aren't decent enough to take themselves off the f*****g board.
Strings 2 years ago
While they won't take themselves off the board, there are some of us that will help remove them from play.
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Sans Serif (Sans) 2 years ago
Simple stalking! Stalking doesn't need premeditation or a developed plan... it can be instantaneous!
Epona 2 years ago
I don't mean to take away from the seriousness of the story above, but I found it written really strangely. What does "it was already late?" mean? Why are the commas in weird places? Maybe I'm overthinking this or missing something but I found it hard to follow. I understand what happened but the wording and punctuation threw me off.
#28
Continue trying to get your attention when you are not engaging with them.
censorshipsucks 2 years ago
This is what this makes me think of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXwCvIaVNFc
quentariel 2 years ago
They should also realise that if a woman avoids having an eye contact or turns away, they probably don't want to talk to you.
Rain Anderson 2 years ago
Not the eye contact one. I don't do eye contacts with my crush too , I get nervous 😳
Load More Replies... Celtic Pirate Queen 2 years ago
I always got some guy trying to get my attention when I took the trolley home from work. I always carry a book with me, because that's just the kind of nerd I am, but that still wasn't always a deterrent. I have no problem politely telling someone I'm really not interested in having a conversation. So what if they think I'm a b*tch? The opinion of random strangers doesn't concern me. AT ALL.
SlytherPuff 2 years ago
Like what do they think is actually going to happen? We suddenly start flirting with you????
Sara Wilson 2 years ago
Especially in the gym! I have headphones in, reading a book and ignoring u. Take a hint!
He's a nut 2 years ago
Another thing that should be here: What works with one lady probably doesn't work with another lady. A lot of unnecessarily creepy encounters can be prevented.
Rain Anderson 2 years ago
Constantly trying to attract someone is sexual harassment. SA doesn't differ from one lady to another. If a women is okay with that , clearly she's been brainwashed into believing other stuff.
Load More Replies... #29
Heres a list of creepy s**t men have done in the last year to me:
Following me around the neighborhood. This has happened several times. Sometimes they will stop and talk to me which leads to the next two points.
Cornering me at my car to “talk” and not letting me leave
Demanding sex from me
Inappropriate comments in general
Staring for too long
Touching in any capacity l unless we are close is bonafide creep behavior.
Showing up at my work to “talk”
Men just be out here creeping on women. Its not “all men” but men tend to excuse it when their friend, brother, cousin, etc out there creeping on women
Jared Robinson 2 years ago
Men need to be stopped. Women are people and this is not an okay way to treat people.
Tracy Wallick 2 years ago
Every woman has a story about a man who made her feel threatened, but it seems that 0 men know a man who's done these sorts of things. Men need to police men, period.
Andy Cran 2 years ago (edited)
I become very conscious if I happen to be walking in the same direction behind women,just strolling along , say a walk to the local shop for instance, I don't live in a too urban location (more open suburban area, anyway I digress as usual) If I feel I'm too close I will drop right back and to create more distance if possible cross the road....I want to do the right thing but don't want to seem patronising either,am I doing the right thing? I want to be mindful of others,so if I'm getting it wrong please say so pandas 🤔🤨👍
Mermeow Overlord (they/them) 2 years ago
Maybe when they show up to your work you could get more physical... you know what I mean... kick him in the nuts and watch him regret ever being a creep!
Marnie 2 years ago
What the hell has happened? I don't know what country this is in, but I've heard pretty bad stories in the US where I'm from. I'm Gen X and I had like two of those things happen in my entire life. Same for my friends. What happened with the guys that this has become so common?
AsylumWalker 2 years ago
This isn't new. You've just been lucky, and people used to ignore it. Now that women are speaking up about it, it seems like it's more common, but it's really not
Load More Replies... featherytoad 2 years ago (edited)
All valid except maybe the "showing up at work to talk." Maybe he's just a nice guy and wants to ask you out and get to know you better. How else is he supposed to do this if he doesn't have your number. If he asked for your number and you didn't give it to him, and he's showing up at your work, that's a different story. Then it's creepy. What other option does he have really? If he's not asking me if I live alone or any other weird s**t, I think I would find it kind of sweet. . Unless I got a bad vibe from the guy, I don't think I would be too put off by this. I would def be very careful and meet in a public space.
Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
So ladies, start asking men out and you'll begin to see why men act the way they do. This page stinks of misandristic hatred.
Mermeow Overlord (they/them) 2 years ago
I don't understand how this relates to this particular post. Also this list is not about all men, it is about minority of dangerous men, they may be a minority but they are very dangerous (at least I think they are a minority).
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#30
As my wife doesn't WFH, she has to be out in the world a lot more. I'll paraphrase what she said recently:
"What the hell's with male Uber drivers and the 'You goin' to your boyfriend's house???' It's such an obvious way to open up whether I might be DTF."
Same goes with when she opens the door for DoorDash. She says there's always fishy types of small talk that weird her out, usually around her schedule and whether they've seen her at [insert shop here]. She doesn't like when some strange dude wants to time/place her. Questions like, "Hey, how's your day?" are all well and good. Friendly. But the personal stuff's gotta go.
As such, I've stopped shushing the dog when she barks at Dashers. I want them to know there's a dog that only needs the word go right behind this pretty little lady who tipped you well, sir.
censorshipsucks 2 years ago (edited)
Interestingly, this doesn't happen across social/demographic boundaries. In my country (SA) a food delivery guy or an uber guy would never dare hit on an upperclass (rich) woman. Because he'd get arrested and charged in seconds. However, unfortunately, if the woman is lower-income (meaning usually black) he will get away with it. In fact we've had MANY cases of black women being kidnapped and raped by uber drivers. Disgusting, but a result of apartheid and our unacceptable levels of patriarchy and GBV.
Upstaged75 2 years ago
This is why I tell all delivery people to just ring the bell and leave the food. I have no interest in talking to any of them!
Lee Banks 2 years ago
Had a cab driver whom I hit it off with. He asked for a smoke, when we got to my place. Sure. Why not? Talked for about twenty minutes, then he put my hand on his erection, and said "We make sex now?" Thank goodness my girlfriend of the time came out to see why I was taking so long. I would've decked him.
Aradia Sayner 2 years ago
I don't know if this is in every country but, in Australia we have a service called Sheba which is women only drivers and women only customers.
Marnie 2 years ago
Did we not see this coming when so many people jumped on the bandwagon of people just picking up driving without going through interview process, it not being a full-time job, they would only do it if they had no other option, since they get no benefits unlike taxi drivers? The gig economy makes people feel like instead of being on the job with supervisors that they are just out and about doing their personal thing and just getting paid. It can attract the wrong people, and bring out the worst.
#31
As a guy, here's a few I noticed about other guys:
- Men hitting on much younger women
- men who bother women at the gym
- guys who try to give women unwanted massages (mostly shoulder rubs while they are sitting)
censorshipsucks 2 years ago
unwanted massages are the grossest. I only did this when I was asked to, and when she announced sexual interest I walked away.
Sleepy children love Moon 2 years ago
I was in the lunchroom on Friday, and one of my.. "acquaintances"(I don't wish to be friends with him) walked up to me, handed me a bag of goldfish, and proceeded to attempt to give me a massage, trying to rub my back, neck, and sides. I just froze and I wasn't able to do anything or say anything
Load More Replies... Pittsburgh rare 2 years ago
As l approach 50, l take personal issue with men over 50 hitting on girls in their 20s and claiming that they're less "problematic". It repells me on another level.
Andy Cran 2 years ago (edited)
I'm 52,and know what you mean....I'd prefer to have someone my own age in my life.....I couldn't think of anything worse than a 20yo in my life (romantically,no disrespect to you younger persons,but It would drive me insane), I know guys who do exactly what you're saying,I try to explain the stupidity of their mindset alas it often falls on deaf ears ....I think it's ok to admire someone,think to oneself "yes they are pretty/handsome" but only briefly and leave it there then move on .... pmsl "problematic" no an older person are more likely to be a confident, intelligent ,self assured with good self esteem....that would scare the living c**p out those type of men .... though saying that I have had relationships with persons younger and older than myself by about a 10yrs difference....not that there's anything intrinsically wrong with age gap relationships if they are healthy
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Lara Verne 2 years ago
Ugh, unwanted massages. One guy at work did that. No woman was safe. He would press himself against your back and rub your neck. Eww
DarkViolet 2 years ago
An elbow to the ribs and a vertical punch to the face should put a stop to that immediately.
Load More Replies... Erik Ivan 2 years ago
As a man - someone comming from behind and suddenly starting to massage my shoulders is sooo creepy. It does not happen to me that much, but I hate it when it happens. Why would women be Amy different?
Andy Cran 2 years ago
again it's about consent,no it's more than consent,it's something that's asked for and even then only from/to someone emotionally close..... women when this happens "unwanted massage" bend back their clammy grubby little fingers until they crack, they'll never do it again to anyone ever
Load More Replies... Alicia M 2 years ago
I'm not telling anyone what to do but I do not understand people who date someone significantly younger than them. I would have nothing in common. I would feel like I'm babysitting, or mothering, and that is the last thing I want to do.
Aradia Sayner 2 years ago
Your responses make me think you should be on a watch list mate.
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#32
Speaking as a 5'2" (1.57) woman, guys you barely know or even total strangers lifting you up off the ground to hug you
Clown fish 2 years ago
I'm 4'11 and I've had this done once and my knee made great contact with their junk
Load More Replies... On a whim 2 years ago
Went to a dance once and there was a particular set where guys and gals were swapping partners in opposite moving circles. I observed a larger lad that after joining hands with a smaller partner would swing them in a way to completely take their balance and weight. When it got to my turn I could see him look over me (I’m a shorty.) to see his next partner. Now I’m built like a bulldog and have a pretty stubborn, protective side, so I grabbed his hands, dropped my weight and returned the favour. The look on his face when I had his balance thrown and he knew I could have dropped him to the floor was priceless. I pulled him back into balance and left off. Hats off to him though- this fit of temper could have ended badly for me later, but he realised how it felt, that it wasn’t fun and to my respect took this on board to treat the rest of his partners really well.
Pittsburgh rare 2 years ago
I'm 5'3" and as l've gained weight people now think twice about lifting me, lol, but when l was in my twenties l often felt like a key ring.
Michelle Hasenkamp 2 years ago
I had a co-worker who got a goodbye hug from a man who afterwards told her she wearing a padded bra
Tessa 2 years ago
Yes this happens. In the same line with smaller females often not being taken seriously.
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Pillowarmidiloroku 2 years ago
I'm the same height but what happens to me is they grab me and I can't take them off so I just have to ask them to let go and I hate it because I can't do anything and it makes me realize how easily I could be taken
#33
"I don't see why you're being so careful. I already would have killed you if I had intended to. a buddy of a friend who I was meeting said to me because it was his first time visiting a foreign nation.
Alicat Wombat 2 years ago
Men are afraid women will humiliate them. Women are afraid men will murder them.
Bianca Saville 2 years ago
Quote from Margaret Atwood “Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.”
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WindySwede 2 years ago
I wonder if they get that from action movies, regardless of gender there, and thinks it cool?? Is "same" a good response then? Please stop doing any of the things on this list.
#34
Telling you unsolicited stories about their sex life.
Flisey 2 years ago
I was on a long flight with my daughter and the guy behind us was telling the lady he was with all about his sexual exploits. Always with gorgeous women. We thought he knew the lady but no! he just spent 9 hours creeping her out. My daughter found it so triggering her sh started up again :(
Black Cat 2 years ago
Serious question, what is sh? I've been trying to work it out.
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Imreallyjustaghost 2 years ago
Worked at a doc office and a guy came in for his 1st initial appointment with the office. He walked up said his last name is as long as his d**k, asked if I wanted to see it, then wouldn't leave the window even tho other patients were in line. The doc discharged him immediately following that appt and I was so relieved
Pittsburgh rare 2 years ago
I've met a bunch of those who throw their sex accomplishments right after meeting you 🙄. If you think that makes you more attractive, think twice.
#35
Mumble something quietly under their breath while you walk by, like, "Wow you're so beautiful." Jesus, if you're going to compliment a stranger could you at least not try to come across as a serial killer?
the_avenging_knight (her/she) 2 years ago
Thank you. He seems to feel like being an a*****e today.
Load More Replies... Trish 2 years ago
I was walking into Lowe's one day, and an older man who was walking put said to me "I want to do things to you that would get me sent to prison." I was afraid to be by myself anymore, so I asked a group of construction guys if they would walk me back to my car.
Rostit. . 2 years ago
fedex guy did this at work to a pair of coworkers. I caught him one time explained to the fedex guy that I took issues with his behavior and I expected an apology or we would have issues. He said nothing and left. I called the routes owner and he got fired.
#36
Stand in the doorway while they hold the door open.
No I will not brush my a*s against you just because you're holding the door open. Gtfo my way
Heather Talma 2 years ago
I'd just stand there staring til they moved. If they speak just say "You gonna get out of the way too or what?"
LeilaOdinis 2 years ago
I hate this. it happens so often for me. I tell them, thank you its ok, I got it. Boy do I get the stink eye from them before they go through the door. I don't want to be brushing our molecules together.
Sara Wilson 2 years ago
Yeah, if they keep standing in the doorway, I just stand there and let them know I can't walk thru when they r there, and thank them, but I can get the door so they can continue forward into/out of the place
Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
Don't go through the door then. If he says something then tell him he's in the way and needs to move over.
Stephen Smith 2 years ago
Yes it's much more gentlemanly to slam the door to these doors, less chance of getting verbal abuse form a women.
Sara Wilson 2 years ago
U r taking this too general. The issue isn't the door being opened. I appreciate when a man or woman holds the door for me and I do it for people all the time. But there ARE men that will actually plant themselves in the doorway in a way that forced a woman to brush up against them to get thru, and not every woman is strong enough to stand up for themselves when they r not comfortable. So don't take it as a nice gesture is always turned into an issue. If u get random people/women upset when u hold the door for them, then close it in their face while saying u weren't aware they didn't appreciate general courtesy and u won't make that mistake with them again, and then walk away.
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#37
I have a coworker. I had never met him (officially) before we started working at the same place 2 years ago. He gave me a weird Vibe from the get-go, but I just avoided him as much as I could, which was easy cause we dont have the same job at our facility. After a while he starts talking about 2 brothers that I do know, and how he was friends with 1 of them - pkay fine, a little creepy you *know* I knew them too. Then he asks when I moved from X adress where I lived with my ex? - I shut that Down, and Straight out said that was a creepy comment that made me uncormftable. I now avoid him even more at work, but a few months pass and he starts asking how Long I lived at Y adress, and that it was then I was hanging out with ‘specific group of people’. I told him how tf he knew about 2 past adresses and whom my friends were, Since I NEVER met him before?! Oh, he and that 1 brother sometimes talk about me. I have not spoken to either of those 2 brothers for 5 years. That s**t is creepy as hell
Rostit. . 2 years ago
they will not help her. HR is not there to help you. They are there to protect eh company from lawsuits and if she is not as valuable as him, she will be let go for some stupid but supportable reason.
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Kirsty 2 years ago
He's a stalker. File a report with the police and report to HR. Get a paper trail.
Averysleepypanda 2 years ago
I agree with HR, but sadly the police won't do s**t. In HS a boy who had graduated was showing up to the school the stalk me. I reported it and was told "unless he does something to you there's nothing we can do". Police rarely take stalking seriously
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Binky Melnik 2 years ago
What’s with this guy and dates? Why does he need to know when you moved here, and when you moved there? Is it just that he’s extra-sucky at talking to women?
WindySwede 2 years ago
Even if he did have interest, this would certainly stop any possibility?
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#38
Tell you their life story. I had one guy in a liquor store recently that decided to tell me what each of his tattoos meant. When he got to his kids he told me their life stories. I finally saw my excuse to get away and he grabbed my hand and kissed it. I saw him recently and I said hello but just walked in. I heard him calling me a b***h. I try so hard to be nice, but kissing my hand I can’t take.
just me 2 years ago
Clerk at the gas station did that to me when I went to pay. I kept giving him the 'dang, hope it works out, dang that sucks' responses while paying and getting my change. Dude followed me out (left the store empty) to my car talking the whole way. Walked right up to the car as I was at the driver's side door, then immediately backed off and shut up when my 70lb boxer mix started barking. I said "sorry, she's pretty protective" and got in and drove off. Told her she was the goodest girl the rest of the drive. Told my dad about it that night and he said "oh, he was just trying to be friendly and must be a little awkward." Smh
featherytoad 2 years ago
Damn, this sounds exactly like my neighbor. I can't get away from him when he starts talking. He does this to everyone though. I think he is just lonely and just wants to talk to someone. I kind of chuckle when I see repairmen or whoever walking to their vehicles and he's following them babbling away. I think he lacks that switch that says, "Hey, back off, you're being over zealous."
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Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
So did you tell him not to kiss your hand when he tried it or did you expect him to read your mind (a superpower women think men have, but really don't).
#39
Being hit on in the gym, this has happened to me so multiple times and even though I understand some people are just trying to 'shoot their shot', the gym should be a safe space. I come there to workout, sweat it out and go home, not to find the love of my life. I don't want to be hit on and then have the awkwardness of turning someone down to then feel like they're constantly watching me in between my sets and I can't avoid them especially as my gym is not the biggest. So it's a big no to this from me.
censorshipsucks 2 years ago
Just make a women-only gym. We have one in my city. (At least, one that I have seen).
Becky Samuel 2 years ago
No. Women only is a backward step towards segregation of the sexes. We shouldn't have to hide away because men can't behave themselves. We need gyms and other men to back us up and help make it clear that this behaviour will not be tolerated any more.
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Faith Love-robertson 2 years ago
In our gym it was the male staff that released the name and phone number of an attractive woman to a male friend who belonged to the gym.
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BRAD MATSON 2 years ago
I've had TWO occasions where 1. My boss & 2. Three works guys showed up literally to watch me workout. (I asked why they were there when it was obvious they were staring and not working out) None of them ever went to the gym before but found out I was going 1. Was grotesque & I quit that job the next day 2. Was so weird/scary/embarrassing and I quit that job the next day too. Like wtaf. Haven't been back to a gym since, which sux.
StrangeOne 2 years ago
If you're in the gym using the equipment others might be waiting for, then ask the person you see staring or looking your way if they're waiting to use the machine or the space.
Sara Wilson 2 years ago
People that r there to work out, WILL either ask, unless it's clear u r almost done, or will ask to work in on ur off-set, depending on what u r doing. But I've always been able to tell when someone was just wanting to use my machine, and if not, I asked
Load More Replies... Maria B 2 years ago
I used to go to a women- only gym just because of this. Then I had male staff members hit on me.
Sara Wilson 2 years ago
On a treadmill, headphones in and on, because I'm lip syncing, reading a book and totally ignoring the dude talking to me on the next treadmill for around 5 mins. Finally pull on my headphones, and close my book with my finger in it, turn to him and say "I'm sorry. We're u talking to me?" Oozing with annoyance and dude takes that as an invite to start all over again. Finally had to b REAL clear with him that I was just interested in working out, hence the headphones, lip syncing, book and "not noticing him there". We r NOT playing hard to get. We r NOT interested
Sara Wilson 2 years ago
Doesn't work. Not even reading a book with headphones in works.
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#40
Being aggressive physically or getting aroused or staring too long at family members or underaged youth. All things have witnessed and don’t know how to respond to these creeps.
censorshipsucks 2 years ago
photograph them and tell them you're putting them on reddit under the AITA section.
Carla Campbell 2 years ago
My brother said he'd f*** my daughter if she wasn't his niece. She was 16. He's dead now.
Zenozenobee 2 years ago
I had a friend who once looked at a picture I was showing to a mutual friend I was catching up and said "mmmmmh, that's your daughter? hide her when she will be 16yo, I never been able to resist an Asian girl!" My daughter was 18months old, he was 40+... I realised I didn't know him and was disgusted by who he was. I throw him out of my life and away from my family for good but will always be mad I was too surprised to crush his head on the wall. Being a white woman it was also painful to realise that my daughter will have to deal with the POS who got stupid fetich I had no idea exist.
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Pittsburgh rare 2 years ago (edited)
When l'm walking with my daughter and those creeps stare at her almost drooling (they're always the same kind of men, but let's not get anyone offended today), l stand between her and them, look at them with absolute disgust and give them the middle finger while saying EWWWW loudly. She often joins me, lol.
BRAD MATSON 2 years ago
Yell as loud as you can "Ya Good???" Loud enough so everyone can hear & will definitely turn around, he should have a look of shame or embarrassment on his face that will make anyone else start to wonder wth he was up to. Hopefully that will start a ball rolling or make someone ask u - possibly later what he was doing & u can spill. If u r always alone tell many many ppl the more the merrier call that s**t out!!!
Dana Marie 2 years ago
We appreciate this and I know. This is probably well intended advice. But I would like to gently remind you that not all women are comfortable making a scene. And that is basically what these men are preying on. I'm the type of woman who would stand up. Kick him and scream and I deal with these situations significantly less. It's almost like people can tell when somebody is a little bit more Mild mannered and take advantage of that.
Load More Replies... Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
I'd love to tell you why, but you've been starring at my wallet for too long and asking me what kind of car I drive.
#41
Park beside you in an empty parking lot
Lord Mysticlaw 2 years ago
I'm a woman and I park near other cars in an empty parking lot because there's safety in numbers
Rostit. . 2 years ago
I'd suggest parking by yourself so you can see who or what is around you. In a group of vehicles you may not see the creeper hiding in the backseat waiting to mug someone. tinted windows are another hiding option. I park away from people so I can see the whole situation. I guess it depends on where you live but I feel safer without other cars around me.
Load More Replies... censorshipsucks 2 years ago
I do this mostly because I want car robbers to have a choice of which car they are going to hit. Whereas if you park at a distance, they will hit whichever is closer to the alleyway.
vennyp0o 2 years ago
My first thought was that each car provides a bit of cover for the other and they'll hit both from between them...? Food for thought in any case.
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The_Nicest_Misanthrope 2 years ago
Admittedly, I do this a lot (I'm female). Everyone ends up becoming 'hun, chick, darlin, lovely etc, whatever gender. Probably set myself up for either a lot of false impressions or offence over the years, though it's never intended as harm. It's just my thing, I guess.
Averysleepypanda 2 years ago
This reminds me of an experience I had the other day (and have had before). I was in the airport about to take a long flight, so I started to stretch. Nothing crazy, just my arms and my legs. I went down to touch my toes, and purposely made sure my butt wouldn't be facing anyone (instead would be facing a row of empty chairs against the wall). Wouldn't you know! A guy comes from across the terminal, and decides to sit in the chair directly behind me, despite there being several empty chairs throughout the terminal!
Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
If it's an empty lot you most likely parked near the front door. Men do that too.
#42
Call women they don’t know by terms of endearment
StrangeOne 2 years ago
Don't not call us "lady", "sweetie", "honey", "muffin", "sweetheart", "girlie", "princess", "sexy".
Bianca Saville 2 years ago
Don't come to the East End of London then, because you will get called darlin', sweetie, mate, love etc by men and women.
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Nikki Gross 2 years ago
Sweetie, Sweetheart, Darlin', Honey and Hon are standard names in the South that women commonly call each other. It's not meant as disrespectful or creepy, it's just our way of being friendly to each other and how a lot of us were raised, especially by the older generation.
Chucky Cheezburger 2 years ago
Can confirm, hon is used quite liberally in the southeast of the U.S. Usually used in the same way "dude" is used. I call (male) coworkers hon often, and Im a guy myself.
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Lord of the laserprinter. 2 years ago
What about the non committal “Luv” commonly used in the north of England?
Cathy 2 years ago (edited)
I was in Edinburgh and came home Al glowing everyday because it brightened my day. Please do not stop.
Load More Replies... Batwench 2 years ago
Depends on where you come from. In the UK being called love, ducky, sweetheart or cariad etc. is common depending on what part of the country you are in. I tell the difference by listening to the tone and the body language. However, this must be horrible if you aren’t too great at picking up non verbal clues.
Karl 2 years ago
In Yorkshire both men and women will call you “love” - just general friendliness. If I went out shopping, I would expect to be called “Love”, “Flower”, “Petal”, “Darling”,”Chuckie Egg” and think nothing of it. But perhaps that’s just Yorkshire 🙂
GFSTaylor 2 years ago
I live in Sheffield, so hear 'love'a lot - it's used to and by both men and women. In Cornwall, I found they use 'my lovely'.
Load More Replies... Apachebathmat 2 years ago
Where I live it’s the norm for men and women to do this, it’s a sign of friendliness (love, chick, pet, darlin, sweets)
Tamiko 2 years ago
Unlocked memory from before covid. Close friend of mine calls me this, some reason it makes me laugh, and I also have a common first name. The idiot (he said himself when he told me this), accidently blurted that out to a random stranger that shared my first name.
Load More Replies... Hey! 2 years ago
There is this huge black phlebotomist where I go and she calls everyone "honey". When my then teenage son went there and she did, his eyes were large as saucers until I explained she didn't mean anything by it. The context was: "I faint" "That's okay honey, I'll take care of you". LOL.
#43
Spending casual time with them and then them immediately thinking you're flirting with them. Not accepting "no" for an answer and then proceeding to stalk afterwards not knowing what they did wrong. Happened several times, stays creepy and makes me very uncomfortable
and_a_touch_of_the_’tism 2 years ago (edited)
Advice I heard a while ago and think is both hilarious and effective: if someone won’t leave you alone, look them in the eyes, and, as deadpan and serious as you can, say something extremely horrible and specific, ex. “I will flay every inch of skin off of your body and leave you to run around in circles until you die of massive blood loss and shock,” “I will turn your skin inside out, rub you with strychnine and powdered glass, and hang you from a mancheneel tree,” “I will break every single one of your bones and then rearrange them in alphabetical order,” “I will slowly castrate you over the course of several weeks with rusty razor wire.”
Rain Anderson 2 years ago
Kinda makes sense. Creeping someone who's creeping u out is justified.
Load More Replies... Tara L. 2 years ago
Ya wtf is up with that? Just because I'm friendly doesn't mean I'm attracted to you or want you. Why do boys think every woman is hitting on them? It's incredibly stupid
Andy Cran 2 years ago
we are stupid,some of us get less so.....as the saying goes "to be old and wise first you must be young and stupid"
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Dude here, I've always hated how men who you're unfamiliar with/have 0 connection to outside of being an acquaintance like a coworker just feel comfortable *touching* you. It takes alot to get under my skin, but when my coworker comes and does that weird, shoulder grip massage thing. Another saw me sitting, absent mindedly swinging my free arm and snuck up behind me and ran his finger down my palm, thought he was being funny. Like, who the f**k does that...
Andy Cran 2 years ago
I had a coworker like that,I had gentle kind words with him explaining I wasn't comfortable with it, rather than blowing up at him and kicking the living bejesus out of him (which would have been a complete overreaction).....he stopped it,we became quite good friends after that, obviously respected my boundaries I had to respect him for that
Kelly Scott 2 years ago
Sucker punch and then, whoops, "It's a reflex reaction - I keep forgetting to warn people."
Binky Melnik 2 years ago
I’ve been told repeatedly that the running the finger across your palm is a signal for “I wanna f—- you.” (The reason I know this is because I’ve asked when it’s been done to me.) Yuck. The fact that there’s a signal for that grosses me out.
#45
Staring too long. Glance is fine but staring too long just comes off as sus.
LeilaOdinis 2 years ago
yes. happened on the train to me the other day. He Dude just stared at me until I stared at him with crazy eyes. He looked away PDQ. I laughed.
#46
Telling young women to smile more.
#47
Stalk girls that they like
StrangeOne 2 years ago
There's a certain type of men who do this and they are capable and guilty of everything else on this list. I dated a guy who admitted to me he followed me home a few times before he asked me out. This was when I was 13 and it was my first bf. I dumped him within a month of dating.
Andy Cran 2 years ago
I'm guessing the lad was of similar age, although I totally agree with your sentiments..... when we're younger we are so full of fear, insecurities and lacking confidence when it comes to matters of the heart....is it possible the lad was just trying to build up courage to ask you out,hence the following?
Load More Replies... Trish 2 years ago
When I was 18, I worked at a store, and an older guy would come in and follow me around. Asked me to go camping with him, I said no. Next day, a girl I graduated with came in, and asked if I wanted to go camping with her and her boyfriend. Also weird, because we were never friends. Turns out, the old guy was her boyfriend's Grandfather. She was setting me up to be alone with someone 60 years older than I was.
Mermeow Overlord (they/them) 2 years ago
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Try to give a stranger any type of beverage at the club. (Happened to me this weekend.) Nah guy, just cause we chatted in the bathroom line doesn’t mean I’m gonna accept the weird cup of “water” you got me unsolicited. ETA: a beverage that they don’t see you get, and that you could have don’t anything to.
censorshipsucks 2 years ago
Advice: never drink a drink in a bar unless you saw the bartender open it and he handed it to you directly.
and_a_touch_of_the_’tism 2 years ago
Also, if you lost track of your drink, it’s not your drink anymore.
Load More Replies... Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
Don't assume men should have to buy any of your drinks. You're equal, remember, so buy your own damn drinks. He hands a "weird cup of water" tell him you want to see him drink it.
Huddo's sister 2 years ago
It's not about you expecting them to buy them for you, it's them buying them unsolicited.
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Start a conversation with “are you married ?”
Mrs. Ginger McSarcasm 2 years ago
Depends on how they react to the answer. In my opinion at least
Andy Frobig 2 years ago
A few years ago, I did some work at a school in Afghanistan, along with some American women. They were constantly asked "Are you married?" followed by "Why not?" and/or "Would you like to be?" And this was by guys who were associated with a coed music school and spoke fluent English, which by Afghan standards makes them practically open-minded
Mimi M 2 years ago
Yep - same experience when travelling in countries like Jordan, Egypt, etc. They are disconcerted by a female alone. And/or they have designs. It's very draining to experience - happens with absolute strangers like taxi drivers, store employees, etc. Hence my other comment re when I was finally fed up.
Load More Replies... Mimi M 2 years ago (edited)
The last guy -- a young taxi driver in the middle of the night in Jordan - who asked me 'are you married, do you have a boyfriend', I asked him 'how big is your d/ick?' I explained to him that I was tired of being asked that question and was fed up. To his credit (even with the language barrier), he got it.
Binky Melnik 2 years ago
Asking whether you’re married only means they wanna know whether you’re available to date. I don’t see this one as offensive. I’ve asked plenty of people whether they’re available. No one reacted as if I’d done anything wrong. I don’t wanna be flirting with someone who’s “taken.”
Averysleepypanda 2 years ago
You're just as bad as Stephen Harvey in these comments
Load More Replies... Stephen Harvey 2 years ago (edited)
What's wrong with that ? We are suppose to be ego massaging married women ? That's their husbands' job. Why would a married woman resent someone asking that if she's not wearing a ring? It's a wast of her time and the man's.
Averysleepypanda 2 years ago
You use a lot of words for, "no women wants me", Stephen. Just admit you hate women. Every comment you've made on every post in this thread makes it pretty clear. Cringe.
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“For the last few years, I’ve been in the habit of walking up behind women in the office, massaging their shoulders, and whispering in their ears, ‘Daddy’s home.’ Inappropriate?”
-Conan O’Brien
PlatinumThe8-BitCat 2 years ago
Is this a joke? Because he is a comedian, then again I also know nothing about his personality and if he’s an actual creep or not
ILOVEBAMBOO 2 years ago
He makes a lot of these kinds of jokes, I don't think he's a creep
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Stephen Harvey 2 years ago
A celebrity does it most women wouldn't care, but the average joe gets slapped or hit with a lawsuit. John Lennon use to walk into parties in NYC and grab unknown women by their breast. He was able to get away with it because he was famous. Women have always had a double standard in the way they treat men of different status.
CF 2 years ago
But you're a nice guy and would never have double standards re: celebrities
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Sandy Price 2 years ago
When guys say I'm not homophobic I just don't want random guys hitting on me. HELLO? How the fuq u think women feel all the time?
Mermeow Overlord (they/them) 2 years ago
Stephen, what rights are you being denied for being heterosexual?
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Harley 2 years ago (edited)
I may get downvoted for this but I couldn’t get past the first few entries. It may be just me but this post makes it seem like every guy is out to get you.
Alex 2 years ago
I think it was just pointing out bad stuff in particular, it doesn't mean that every man is a bad person
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Randy Sanders 2 years ago
Every one of the above! What ever happened to being a gentleman? I'm an older guy, 60+.
R Dennis 2 years ago
I think a few of these are creepy guy things, but a LOT are creepy people things... I have had several of these things happen to me and I was average looking at best in my heyday.
Huddo's sister 2 years ago
That's the point really, it doesn't matter who you are or what you look like, some people will just step over boundaries, some quicker than others.
Load More Replies... Rocket Surgeon 2 years ago
I used to think I was shy. After reading these, I realize I'm just considerate.
Shane S 2 years ago
I’m surprised I didn’t see this but just because a man is gay, that doesn’t mean you get to touch women without their consent. Hands to yourself. You may be gay, but you’re still a man and everyone has authority over their own body, regardless of your intentions.
Vul Va 2 years ago (edited)
I said you were triggered not because you replied but because you deployed the high school riposte of "I've slept with more people than you" and called another poster the c-word. Replying alone doesn't signify triggering, I don't think? So, no, don't think I am triggered! Entertained, definitely 😂 Also now curious what the starred out word is....? F a n n y??? Edit: the thread's disappeared? I guess Lenny Bruce got banned and it removed his posts?
censorshipsucks 2 years ago (edited)
I read the entire thing and it makes me sad for women. At some stage we need to just do a thing where people only use dating apps and outside dating apps it is just 100% unacceptable to speak to someone, or touch them, unless you have to engage them on a work matter (obviously touch remains unacceptable). I can't see any other way.
DarkViolet 2 years ago
They left one off the list: guys who try to smooth-talk you when you're clearly: 1) not interested and 2) underage. It's what I call the "Say, Mama!" routine. Some guy dressed like a superfly (Google it), mouth almost totally sparked out (gold caps), reeking of malt liquor and Old Spice, and wearing enough gold to open his own jewelry shop. "Say, mama, I just saw your fine self there and I just had to come over and say hello I ain't never seen you in this neighborhood before so what's your name sweet thang can I get your digits maybe we can go out sometime what's your address when can I pick you up......" and on it goes. If you have never had to endure this, be ever so thankful.
Sandy Price 2 years ago
When guys say I'm not homophobic I just don't want random guys hitting on me. HELLO? How the fuq u think women feel all the time?
Mermeow Overlord (they/them) 2 years ago
Stephen, what rights are you being denied for being heterosexual?
Load More Replies... Harley 2 years ago (edited)
I may get downvoted for this but I couldn’t get past the first few entries. It may be just me but this post makes it seem like every guy is out to get you.
Alex 2 years ago
I think it was just pointing out bad stuff in particular, it doesn't mean that every man is a bad person
Load More Replies... Randy Sanders 2 years ago
Every one of the above! What ever happened to being a gentleman? I'm an older guy, 60+.
R Dennis 2 years ago
I think a few of these are creepy guy things, but a LOT are creepy people things... I have had several of these things happen to me and I was average looking at best in my heyday.
Huddo's sister 2 years ago
That's the point really, it doesn't matter who you are or what you look like, some people will just step over boundaries, some quicker than others.
Load More Replies... Rocket Surgeon 2 years ago
I used to think I was shy. After reading these, I realize I'm just considerate.
Shane S 2 years ago
I’m surprised I didn’t see this but just because a man is gay, that doesn’t mean you get to touch women without their consent. Hands to yourself. You may be gay, but you’re still a man and everyone has authority over their own body, regardless of your intentions.
Vul Va 2 years ago (edited)
I said you were triggered not because you replied but because you deployed the high school riposte of "I've slept with more people than you" and called another poster the c-word. Replying alone doesn't signify triggering, I don't think? So, no, don't think I am triggered! Entertained, definitely 😂 Also now curious what the starred out word is....? F a n n y??? Edit: the thread's disappeared? I guess Lenny Bruce got banned and it removed his posts?
censorshipsucks 2 years ago (edited)
I read the entire thing and it makes me sad for women. At some stage we need to just do a thing where people only use dating apps and outside dating apps it is just 100% unacceptable to speak to someone, or touch them, unless you have to engage them on a work matter (obviously touch remains unacceptable). I can't see any other way.
DarkViolet 2 years ago
They left one off the list: guys who try to smooth-talk you when you're clearly: 1) not interested and 2) underage. It's what I call the "Say, Mama!" routine. Some guy dressed like a superfly (Google it), mouth almost totally sparked out (gold caps), reeking of malt liquor and Old Spice, and wearing enough gold to open his own jewelry shop. "Say, mama, I just saw your fine self there and I just had to come over and say hello I ain't never seen you in this neighborhood before so what's your name sweet thang can I get your digits maybe we can go out sometime what's your address when can I pick you up......" and on it goes. If you have never had to endure this, be ever so thankful.
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