Someone Asked “What Is Something You Changed Your Stance On After Learning More About It?”, Here Are 30 Of The Most Fascinating Answers
Have you ever been extremely passionate about a topic just to years later look back and be embarrassed that you ever felt that way? Maybe it was supporting a certain politician or animal rights group in college, but since then you’ve realized they don’t represent your beliefs as much as you once thought. The beauty of being human is that we can form opinions on anything, and those opinions aren’t static.
Last week, Reddit user Pineapple_WarpDrive reached out to fellow members of the Ask Reddit community to pose the question, “What is something you changed your stance on after learning more about it?” And a very interesting conversation was sparked. We’ve gathered some of the most eye-opening responses for you to read right here, and as you make your way through the list, we implore you to keep an open mind. Perhaps your opinions will be changed too!
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Understanding why people shake their baby.
Of course it is absolutely horrible and it seems like it should make sense that nobody should even think about doing it but I have an understanding of how it can happen now. I had my own daughter 4 years ago and swore up and down that nobody but a monster would shake their child but let me tell you that sleep deprivation is hell and it is terrifying.
When my daughter was a newborn, she was crying very hard one particular night and nothing we did seemed to soothe her crying. My insanely sleep deprived brain started trying to take over and I could feel the urge to shake her.
Luckily, I had just enough cognitive function to recognize that I was in a very vulnerable and bad situation. I set my daughter back down in her crib and walked away for a little while so as to wake myself up some more.
That is the most scared I've ever been of what the human brain is capable of.
Absolutely agree! My daughter was a horrific baby. I never shook her but I have had to put her down and walk away. I even called my husband to come home from work one day because I was broken and could not handle it anymore. He was so concerned he actually sent his dad to come because he was much closer. I literally thrust my daughter into his arms and walked out of the house. Walked and cried for an hour until I felt better. It's terrifying to be that close to the edge but its also very very common and you are not a crappy parent because of it!!! My daughter is now one of the brightest, happiest 9 year olds I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. It gets better.
Load More Replies...I remember my sister (who remained child free) holding my baby daughter and saying 'you just can't understand how anyone could hurt them, do you' and my husband and I exchanging glances. No, we never came *close* to harming her, but once you've had a baby you understand how someone without the resources to cope could be pushed to the edge. And by resources I include brain function, because how we are treated as babies ourselves affects how different parts of our brain grow, as well as having social support.
I firmly believe every parent thinks about harming their child at least once. Even the best parents who would never intentionally harm their baby will have the fleeting thought or impulse to do so.
Load More Replies...I didn't feel like I wanted to shake my babies, but once, after a particularly hard night I caught myself starting to squeeze my baby's arms just a little too tight. I didn't realize what I was doing, but my tired brain snapped out of the exhaustion just long enough to realize the situation I was in. I put him down and called my mum. I never told her why, but I got the distinct impression that she knew the state I must have been in. She sat on the couch with the baby on her lap and me next to her for a good six or seven hours, until my husband came home. For some reason I couldn't sleep, but sitting still that long,with her, did a world of good. It's one of only a few vivid memories I had of that time, and I really hope my mum knew just what she did for me that day.
My nephew had colic pretty bad and I would watch him so my sister could get some sleep. Even though I just had to bear it for a few hours at a time, I still would feel the urge to put a pillow over his face to make the crying stop. I never wanted kids, and one of the reasons is that I'm convinced I would end up murdering them.
I remember my mother warning me about this; it was really the only advice to raising babies that she handed me without asking. She said, "There is going to come a time when you are frustrated beyond anything you've ever felt before, call me, do not pick the baby up, I'll be there soon." That night came, and I didn't have to say a word when I called, she picked up the phone and said, "I'm on my way." RIP mom and I promise to do the same for my kids when they have their own.
My god. This happened to me with my first born. She wouldn't stop crying while carrying here, she was just a few weeks old and to my frustration I shook her hard and I realized what I just did right after and I felt so sorry and so bad. I had no idea whatsoever of post partum or anything that's brought about by just giving birth. Until this day I regret what happened.
I think the majority of moms regret something. But, it's comforting to know we're not alone in it. I wish someone had told me about the havoc hormones and exhaustion bring about and for just how long.
Load More Replies...I was a single mom at age 20 and full-time college student. Minimal help from my family. I was really doing it alone and I was exhausted. (I remember coming home and crying one night because I had to wash a sink of dishes) One day, I lost my temper, but did not shake my baby. I put him in his crib and walked away. Everyone needs to do the 10 or 15 second countdown and deep breathing. It can save a child from being injured. I agree with the OP. I would never hurt my child but I can see how people get in a situation where they feel like it. It was a tough time, but today my son is a happy young man and I'm very proud of him.
You should be proud of yourself, too, coping with all that on your own x
Load More Replies...I was in the same situation.... luckly for me I was living with my parents and one of my sisters. Who would get up in the middle of the night to help with my baby... told me to "Leave the room", literally pushing me away.... I'm a good mom, but boy crying in the middle of the night, while working full time, while still breastfeeding is just a big NOPE!!!!
I didn’t do birthing classes when I was pregnant, I studied stress and distress - how to keep calm in panicked/limbo states. I was t perfect but when I did meltdown finally it was at myself and my at times my partner while also saying how I knew it was just emotion talking and how I know we’d get through it. My daughter was an amazing baby, but it was exhausting trying to continue at the same achievement pace, which left me exhausted. TLDR - f**k debating about an epidural and magic ‘natural pain free’ birthing techniques, study how to operate under distress and extreme pressure.
I've often said that, after being a parent, I understand why animals sometimes eat their young.
I’m sure you’ve heard someone say before that “people can’t change”. While this may have been uttered by a bitter, pessimistic individual, it’s actually a pretty common belief to hold. Whether it’s in reference to someone who cheated on their partner, someone struggling with addiction or a student who just won’t do their homework, feeling this way about another person isn’t likely to encourage them to change their habits.
But this list is a prime example that people can change. I think the issue is less about whether or not people can and more about whether or not they want to. People can certainly enact change within themselves, but we aren’t often successful in trying to alter anyone else. Mark Manson, author of The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck, addresses this in a piece on his website saying, “For a person to truly change, they must feel that the change is theirs, that they chose it, they control it. Otherwise, it loses all its effect.”
Assisted Suicide. I was against it, but after seeing my uncle suffer with extreme Rheumatoid Arthritis for a few years before eventually dying from it, I’m all for it now. If we put down our pets when they’re suffering, why can’t we do the same to our humans with their written consent?
A human life riddled with pain and agony is not a life anymore. Some people get so in their own feelings that they forget their loved ones are essentially suffering. "How can I play God and decide who gets to live and who gets to die?" What about basic compassion? Assisted suicide is cherishing human life, it's giving the opportunity to the suffering people to die with dignity.
That's such an interesting argument too. We think "How can I play God and decide who gets to live and who gets to die?"...but don't realize we do it every day. We're deciding our child gets to live when we give them antibiotics to clear out their infection. We're deciding we get to live a little longer when we take our heart medication. If we're already "playing God" in that way, why can't we also help the person who says "Please, I'm suffering, I want to die".
Load More Replies...I'm a nurse and I worked in a pain management clinic for years. This is where you go when you need such strong medicines your regular doctor doesn't want to manage them, so they send you to a special doctor for that. We had a lot of (advanced) cancer patients. So many of them weren't living. I can't help but to think that assisted suicide is compassionate. I am fully in favor of it being legal.
I struggle to understand why so many people are against it and would rather have their loved ones suffer. It's so cruel. It should be the individuals choice. Why are we allowed to have the option to end our pets pain and suffering, yet us humans don't have that right in most places.
The main concern I would have is coercion. There are plenty of cases of elder abuse and this could an extension of that. That's why it has to be almost a constant discussion and just about everyone in the family needs to know what each elderly relative wants so there's no craziness at the end. You might sign a document stating the circumstances under which you would do this, then later change your mind... but then a serious accident occurs and... poof, the plug is pulled. There's also religious objections, I know Christianity (and I think Islam and Judaism-at least orthodox- do too) views suicide as a serious sin, which has serious negative implications on the afterlife. All that said, I am totally for physician assisted euthanasia.
Load More Replies...I think there's also an issue with people thinking the 'assisted' part is murder. They say things like 'well if you want to kill yourself do it but don't involve anyone else. Slash your wrists or take a bunch of pills.' But they forget that to take the pills or slash your wrists you have to have control of your hands and have the ability to swallow. If you are so disabled that you can't do those things, you HAVE to have help. It really goes to this misunderstanding of how bad some disabilities can be and how painful they actually are. I'd personally rather have it controlled by a doctor so I just go to sleep and don't feel pain, then to do it myself by slashing my wrists or taking the wrong combination of pills that cause me horrifying pain and convulsions etc before I die. I lived in pain enough... at least let me die the way I want! I don't think anyone has the right to tell me I'm required to live in pain and suffer because of their personal beliefs that have nothing to do with me.
I believe anyone should be able to do what they want with their bodies as long as it does not hurt others. Abortion, drugs (I understand people can get high snd get behind a wheel, but alcohol is legal so I do not see a difference), sex for money, suicide, sexual preference, religious preference and everything on between. No one should be able to control others. Of course I am talking about adults here. 18 and over.
As a chronic pain patient with who's dealing with a body that is constantly on the decline I think about this a lot. Personally, the issue isn't just the pain. It's the burden. Burden on my family is so much harder for me to consider then my comfort. Financially debilitating people so I can continue living a non productive life is just pointless to my thinking. I'm not there yet. I hope not to be for a long time. But I've already made the decision that when my quality of life has declined beyond redemption and my existence burdens my family too greatly, I will do I what ensure peace for everyone. No. I've not discussed this with anyone yet. I know they will struggle with it. But I don't need their permission. It's my choice.
Also, consider donating your body for research after you die. Google donating body to science and the place you live in and you should be able to find some university that accepts bodies for research. Leaving your body to research means no financial burden on your family for funeral costs as they use your body and then when they've learnt all that is to know they create your remains and will contact your family to ask if they would like to have your ashes. For me I've chosen that they scatter my ashes in their memorial garden at the university.
Load More Replies...American system is so cruel. Our system basically forces many folks to "manage" their pain until they can no longer eat or drink, and they die from dehydration/starvation. It's horrible.
Not just the US - any country where euthenasia is illegal.
Load More Replies...You can assist the, or force them to find a way to do it alone. Assisting is kinder, to me.
My dad was diagnosed with Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis (IPF) in 2016. IPF causes scar tissue to build up in the lungs, gradually reducing their functionality. There is no cure. The patient slowly suffocates to death. He died in 2019 after three years of absolute Hell. I would have supported him had he chosen assisted suicide.
I've always wondered why we can treat our beloved pets more humanely than our human loved ones.
I had a vet tell me once (in regards to an aging pet), “I will help you enrich their life, but not help prolong their death.” I think of that statement often.
Load More Replies...In the case of wanting someone else in our lives to change, we often have to sit back and fight the impulse to impose our own opinions. It can be painful, but as Mark notes, “The best attempts at helping someone often backfire. You can’t make someone be confident or respect themselves or take responsibility—because the means you use to do this destroys confidence, respect, and responsibility.”
So what does he recommend to gently guide loved ones towards better choices while maintaining our relationships? First, he notes that leading by example can be an effective tactic. If you think your partner is drinking too much and it’s beginning to negatively impact their life or health, you can set an example by inviting them to stay in with you more often or opting for nonalcoholic drinks in their company. It might not cause them to reconsider their own choices, but it does present them with an option they might have previously not even considered.
Universal healthcare. When I actually learned more about healthcare systems in other countries and then compared it to my own (I live in America) it really showed me just how far behind we are. For years I staunchly thought it was a horrible idea, but now I’m pissed everyday cause the US doesn’t have it.
I really don't understand how people think universal healthcare is a bad idea, it exists in all EU countries plus the UK, and people aren't weighed down with medical debt.
My favorite argument is "but then everyone will start going to the doctor even when they don't need it" because yes, everyone loves sitting in the waiting room for a few hours and then getting poked and prodded by a doctor. Great alternative for those days when you don't find anything good on Netflix
Load More Replies...The US has spent $6.4 trillion on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001. It would have been a better investment to spend that money on healthcare for Americans.
We’ve had universal health care in Australia since February 1st 1984. It’s the Best thing to have, Everyone, regardless of economic status, receives the same level of care in a Public Hospital, No one is denied treatment, there is no such thing as medical debt bankruptcy, there are no crippling health insurance costs & best of all the Only people that have any say in your treatment are You & your Doctor. No employers, no health management Offices, just you & your physician. BTW it’s not “Free” everyone who works pays a small % of their pre tax income as the Medicare Levy, so it is also income based, no one complains because what goes around comes around .
Seriously. It's either be healthy and homeless or sick and secure. Wtf kind of choice is that? Dental care should be universal, too, while we're on the subject. Certain dental problems can definitely be potentially fatal, such as an untreated tooth abcess that can spread to the brain and kill someone. This has happened before and will happen again. I need a lot of dental work (have had 4 abcesses) and I am terrified of this happening to me. My insurance only covers basic dental procedures, too, and everything I need done is not covered. I'm screwed.
You can also start calling where you live by its name USA, America is a continent with 57 countries.
The issue with universal healthcare in the eyes of the American people is they think their taxes will explode because the majority of them truly believe that healthcare costs as much as they get charged for it. It doesn't.
I had to file bankruptcy twice b/c of the USA healthcare system. I have a lifelong illness and medication to treat it cost in the thousands with insurance only covering 20% of the cost. Needless to say I’m not on medication anymore, just can’t afford it. Here in the USA, health insurance has become for the healthy, and the rich. It’s a really terrible situation.
Abortion. Grew up Christian (not anymore). I started shifting more left but didn’t know if I could call myself pro-choice. So I researched it. 70%+ of abortions are done by women who live below the poverty line. 60% of those (45% of all) are done by women who also already have a child. So its a mother who already struggles to feed her child making an impossible choice. Maybe instead of telling her what to do, we can figure out how to provide her basic needs and healthcare and educate her so she can get out of poverty.
Even if you eliminate the poverty no one should be allowed to force you to keep a lump of developing cells in your body. One which will change your body and life forever, and you might potentially not even survive it. Especially if it was conceived after rape, or if it generates a risk to the person carrying it.
No one should be forced against their will to have their body used to keep someone else alive. This basic precept is vital in cases regarding separating conjoined twins. Each twin has equal right to life, but one twin cannot be used to keep another twin alive.
Load More Replies...And abortion is not going to stop even if it is ilegal. Women are going to look for ways to abort. I hate politicians and religious people that think that their morality is above womens health and choice.
To hear forced-birth crusaders talk, abortion began with Roe v Wade and will magically go when (or if?) that decision is reversed. No, no, ten thousand times no! Abortion will move to back alleys, or risky self-aborting with knitting needles and the like. People will suffer infection, permanent injury, infertility, even death. But do the "pro-lifers" care? Nope. And where the heck are they when people march against war and gun violence, or for affordable health care or raising the minimum wage?
Load More Replies...I am a Christian and would never have an abortion myself, but that doesn't mean that I can't support someone that does want to get one. The decision is incredibly difficult and a woman doesn't need to be judged for it. They need someone to hold their hand.
It can be really hard to tell how you will react in a situation that you have never been in before. Many people have some shiny and polished ideals, right until they suddently find themselves in a chaos they could not image, and realise some things that they simply did not see before. I think there are more women out there, who have stated that they are against abortion but who secretely have had one, than most of us realise.
Load More Replies...I saw a sign on the road today encouraging people to be foster parents. The system is overwhelmed. Christian fascists want to add to that burden. They like to stand and protest outside abortion clinics, but never once asks any of those woman what help they need to perhaps change their minds. I do not believe there is a conservative alive who would not seek an abortion for his wife or daughter if they became pregnant from rape. Yet, they are completely on board with banning abortions. Overturning Roe versus Wade will not stop abortions. It will stop safe abortions. It will stop abortions for a lot of underprivileged women. Absolutely nothing will change for the wealthy. They will continue on as they have been doing their whole lives. The entire "pro-life" movement is so riddled with hypocrisy it makes me ill with disgust.
Actually the #1 effective "anti abortion" method- is birth control. You never hear these pro birth people scream about birth control and education. How about helping these ladies not get pregnant in the 1st place! I read today there is actually a "person" ( of a specific political party) who totally wants birth control banned ( except for the wealthy of course). How else are you going to populate the "plantations"/ prisons for all that free labor.
That's because they don't want you to have birth control either.
Load More Replies...If you're anti-abortion because of Christianity, you need to read your Bible, which specifically says that neither life nor ensoulment occur until you take your first breath. See Genesis 2:7, Ezekiel 37:6, and Job 33:4.
Or if they don't accept that, wouldn't the aborted "babies" go straight to heaven? Isn't that a good thing?
Load More Replies...Free long lasting birth control with education reduces abortion by 30 to 50%, according to studies. That’s more than the reduction from banning abortion but the pro forced birthers don’t want to do that because it defeats their goal of controlling and punishing women.
I too grew up in a religion that was against abortion, but when I was 13, I met another 13-year-old girl who was pregnant, it changed my mind. This thirteen-year-old girl, who legally could not consent to sex, was pregnant with a baby she hated. She was scared. She was a child. She was pregnant. That infant was going to be born, and when it came out, opened its brand-new eyes, it will have to call a child who hated it, Mom.
I don't see this as being an issue of left Vs right. In my country it has been legal for about 60 years and is accepted by the vast majority except the religious zealots..
It's accepted by the vast majority of Americans too but because of the way our laws are written, it has allowed a minority to wield far too much power.
Load More Replies...Next, Mark recommends providing them with better questions, rather than answers. Avoid explicitly sharing your own opinions, and ask the other person questions that allow them to reflect on their actions. Mark provides the example of rather than telling someone they need to request a raise, you could ask them, “Do you believe you’re fairly paid?” They won’t feel judged, and it’s empowering for them to come to their own conclusions. Whether they agree with you or not, they’re at least considering the topic you raised.
Lastly, Mark notes how important it is to provide help unconditionally. Whether you think you know what’s best for them or not, resist the urge to tell them exactly what to do. Make yourself available, so they can take you up on the offer if they want to. Lots of people don’t want to hear advice, but they may relate to a personal story you share of a similar situation. And you’re not forcing them to do anything, especially change; you’re just opening up their mind.
Homosexuality. I “knew” that the Bible said it was wrong (fewer times than it said divorce was wrong). In college I actually met a lesbian for the first time. I had known them for months before I found it out though, so my brain was confused.
“But they’re normal! But they’re gay! So does that change anything? How does that affect me? Wait . . . That doesn’t affect me? So then what is the issue?”
I’ve never gone back to that stance.
I even heard the context on which they claim it’s wrong was actually saying “man shouldn’t lay with a boy”, so against pedophiles not gays.
Too few people never make it as far as "that doesn't affect me, so then what's the issue?". They can get stuck in the cognitive loop of "does that change anything? How does it affect me?" But never manage to answer that crucial question correctly. IT DOESN'T. Assuming they aren't an active politician who is making policy decisions based on who they want to f*ck, and on the basis they aren't also trying to sexually assault you, whether someone is straight, gay or anywhere along the LGBTQ+ spectrum is none of your concern. Be an ally, be supportive, but at a basic level, it's really none of your business.
...On the other hand, way too many people are also far to quick to reach the conclusion, "that does not affect me, so then what is the issue". Vesions of this include "setting the price of the drug I develloped so high that some people cannot afford it and therefore die, does not affect me, so why should I care? Or the CO2 that my Hummer emits may lead to desertification in Africa, but since I do not lieve there, what is the issue?... and so on. I do not nessesarily see evaluating only if something is harmfull to you as the best thing you can do, as it may be a too egoistic and narrowminded way of thinking. Instead you should just look at what harm is done in total, and weigh that against the benefits gained, and in that case the tiny amount of disgust that some people may have over the idea of homosexuality does in no way justify the destruction of someone else's happiness (it may even become so bad that they end up comitting suicede, so your actions indirectly cost a life)
Load More Replies...I have serious doubts that the modern Bible is ANYTHING like the original book. It has been translated and edited so many times, there's no way it hasn't turned into the world's biggest game of Telephone.
The only time someones sexuality affects you is if they are a potential romantic/sexual partner for you. If they don't align with your sexuality, then they are off the list immediately. No big deal. I never figured out the problem to begin with, that's usually the least interesting thing about people for me.
Same here! When I was a small child one of my babysitters was showing me a video and pointed to two guys. She said, "Those two guys like each other, and that's very bad." I remember being convinced it was bad for a long time, but then I met a pansexual girl who was dating a girl and realized it wasn't actually bad. Now as a teenager I fully support LGBTQIA and I'm even starting to think I'm actually part of that community as an asexual. My parents are also very supportive of them, but I never ended up telling then what the babysitter told me because I thought they would say the same. Now I wish I had though because maybe it would make it easier for me to figure out if I'm really asexual or not.
If you grew up in a repressive culture like mine, it could just be you've repressed that side of yourself.
Load More Replies...I'm an atheist. In college, I briefly dated a guy who was, at that time, a devout xtian. Years later, we caught up on FB. He's now an atheist himself. What changed his mind? When we were in college, he was a member of a campus religious group. One of their members came out as gay, and the entire group shunned him. My ex said, "Wait a minute, even being raised fundie, I don't remember anything in the bible that was specifically anti-gay..." He went home and re-read his bible with a much more open mind/critical eye. When he realized how much of it was inconsistent, contradictory, and just didn't make a lot of sense, that's when he realized it's nothing more than mythology. He left the campus religious group, and now considers himself an atheist.
Some could argue that the past church leaders shifted the intended original interpretations because priests were pedophiles and so twisted temple prostitutes but did not want to be called on it. "homosexuality is s sin" is just the scapegoat of it all.
The number of times that a topic is noted in the Bible does not indicate anything about the importance of that topic.
People are still people, regardless of their sexual orientation and why should anyone care anyway?
Kudos to the writer here, but using the Bible to justify homophobia is a smoke screen.
Unfortunately not. A lot of people like to absolve themselves of critical thought, and a great many do that by turning to holy books or other external sources. Then they can point at the source and shrug and say "but this says - " and not have to grapple with it. I know a lot of people who do this, and a large number of them use the Bible.
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Vaccines. My mom has always been an anti vaxxer, so I grew up with all the propaganda. Once i moved out and had to get all my vaccines for my job, I *did my own research* and learned the truth.
There are scary levels of bad information against vaccines. It's almost like some people are mad AT science itself...
Nah, just take the horse medicine, you'll be fine lol. (Obviously sarcasm)
Anit-vaxxers always say 'do your own research' The thing is when you actually do that you find that everything they have said is untrue and that vaccines are, very obviously, a good idea..
Yeah, it’s funny, really, how they say “do your research” when they actually mean “read the same delusional conspiracy propaganda I have, swallow it blindly and do NOT under any circumstances do research”.
Load More Replies...I didn’t grow up with propaganda just No vaccines ( except polio & only because it was Government mandated after an out break) I’ve had, Measles, Rubella, MumpsTwice , Chicken Pox , glandular Fever, Whooping Cough & Meningococcal Septicaemia. All 4 of my kids are fully vaccinated.
They are trying to pass law in CA which allows children over 12 to get vaccinated without parental consent.
I'm in my late 50s now and travelled a ton when I was younger. Every single time we left one country and every time we landed in another, my arm was getting jabbed for everything scary you've ever heard of. I literally have a vaccine record as long as my arm! Don't get me wrong, I hate needles with the kind of passion I usually reserve for those darn Yankees (baseball-wise). Am I completely vaxxed and boosted against COVID? Damn right I am.
Vaccinations are far more beneficial than no vaccinations. Bad reactions are the exception, not the rule; and are few.
When it comes to what we change our minds on, it can be anything and everything. Maybe when you were growing up you hated brussels sprouts because of the way your parents prepared them, but after trying them roasted in the oven and drizzled with a bit of balsamic glaze, they became one of your favorite vegetables. Politics are certainly a common topic that people’s opinions ebb and flow on. Perhaps as a teenager you felt one way because that’s what your parents told you was right. Then when you went to college you joined some activist groups, and your political ideology did a 180. According to the Pew Research Center, even social media can play a role in affecting our political beliefs. In 2018, 14% of Americans say something they saw on social media caused them to alter their opinion on a political or social issue.
Jehovahs witnesses. I grew up as one and when I finally started doing research outside of their publications I couldn’t believe what I saw, and I left.
EDIT: I was disfellowshipped because I didn’t have the balls to disassociate myself. There were a lot of horrible things that happened to me in the religion in 2017-2019, so I felt my only way out was suicide. I failed my attempt in January of 2020, and was disfellowshipped in August of 2020, about four months after I got out of rehab. I lost my home, my job, my family, and my friends. Pretty much my entire life foundation. But I’ve built a support system from scratch and now I have friends who love me for me, and not just based on religion.
It’s sad but not many people get to start a brand new life in their 20’s so I’m grateful in many ways as well as grieving those I lost.
ANOTHER EDIT: Thank you for all of the love and the awards! It’s so heart warming to see so many people going through the same experiences. We are never alone and I’m sorry so many of you have been effected by this too.
FINAL EDIT: If you are a Jehovah’s Witness, I really don’t need you commenting on this to tell me I’m wrong and you’re not in a cult. What I’ve been through speaks for itself. So please let me be.
I would be dead if I was a Jehovah witness coz I needed a blood transfusion. How anyone could choose a deity that we don't know actually exists, over saving the life of your own child/partner etc. F**k that s**t.
My mom was one and when she was dying two elders ‘visited’ her in the hospital just to make sure she didn’t get blood transfusion. I threw them out and forbid them to visit her.
Let me get this straight,,, you suffer, you attempt suicide. The church kicks you out because it's some sort of sin. That's a great god you got there JWs... probably ok with stoning daughters who shame the parent too.
My dad ran away from home at 16 because my grandparents became JWs. We're still considered the "black sheep" of that side of the family to this day. The way they force you to ostracize anyone who doesn't agree with you (including, and ESPECIALLY family) pretty much encapsulates the problems we have in the US right now. Just another cult by a different name.
The JWs are one of the most evil organizations that I have ever seen. My Aunt worked for social services for the city of San Francisco, and she told me that in San Francisco the JWs have more child rape and coverups than even the Catholic Church. They don’t believe in blood transfusions. They are a death cult that believes that the end of the world is coming any day now, but they have been making failed end times prophecies since 1878. They often times won’t let their children go to college because they stupidly believe the end is coming. They lie about science and they quote mine and spin scientific facts.
True, they have this judge system within so when you get hit by your husband you can’t even go to the police
Load More Replies...But so, so much bad. Bad? I’m sorry - meant horrific beyond all comprehension.
Load More Replies...When I was growing up and was in school we had a boy in our class who was a Jehovah's Witness. I remember one time when there was a child who treated the class to candy because it was his/her birthday. But that boy couldn't take anything because his religion said no...I still remember how aweful I felt that was...😔
Syeah, imagine that on top of that your also not allowed to talk to anyone outside the religion because you might get ‘tainted’ with their ‘evil worldly ways’
Load More Replies...My husband was raised as one. But the man has always been incredibly smart and started doubting things from a very early age. His father however, I'm pretty sure he hates me. Makes a lot of underhanded comments towards me, apparently I'm the demon who lead his son astray. I purposefully have a dedicated shelf on my bookcase for Pagan books just because it makes him nervous to be in my house.
Climate Change. Looking at the evidence it's clearly a hoax.
Just kidding, I was a firm denier until I had to do an assignment proving or disproving it in highschool. Realised I couldn't find any decent source to back up my claim. Basically changed my mind on the spot
That's not just good science, that IS science. Following verifiable evidence without bias is the whole point. All else is just faith or assumptions, both of which mean about the same thing.
Load More Replies...I had a government teacher in HS that was a Republican, and I was one at the time too. The more he talked the more I realized he was an absolute moron, and I just couldn't let his drivel go, so I started arguing with his flawed logic and loe-and-behold dropped the GOP
We need to start addressing the number 1 cause of climate change. It’s us, us humans. Population needs feeding, housing, transport, heating, air-con and all the rest.
Unfortunately a lot of what is shown as "climate change" is not given context. Glaciers melting and huge icebergs being formed - they do that anyway - the difference is where they are doing it - the glaciers and ice caps have shrunk. Similarly with weather - severe rain, hail storms, hurricanes, tornadoes - all occurred previously, but much less frequently. The dramatic images need to be accompanied by context.
I hate how deniers will point to how Earth has had climate change in its natural history. Yes, that is true, and they were almost all followed by a mass extinction...
Yep...humans aren't special. We will one day be extinct. Nothing to be done about it.
Load More Replies...There is evidence against it. I mean, not that it's not happening but some is natural.
Some is natural. Nothing like the scale and speed it has moved in recent centuries. https://xkcd.com/1732/
Load More Replies...I guess you could say I was a denier...not of climate change, but that people have much affect on it one way or the other. There have been mass extinctions before. There is evidence of planet wide atmospheric changes. Ice ages come, then things get warm again. The planet is constantly changing. Always has, and always will. Just because us insignificant hairless apes are smart enough to think we know planet wide change has happened doesn't mean that the changes stop or that we can do a damn thing about it. On a cosmic scale, we are nothing.
On a cosmic scale, we are nothing. On a planetary scale, we are so numerous and so good at manipulating the environment (not necessarily in good ways) that we are affecting the planet's ecosystems. There are so. many. studies out there that point to humans as primary contributors to climate change that it is crazy not to act as if that is true information. If you saw thousands of doctors and 95% of them told you that you had cancer, would you choose to believe the 5% that said you were healthy? This is what lawmakers are doing. And to continue the analogy, many of these doctors claiming you are healthy are paid off by the tobacco companies that gave you cancer.
Load More Replies...I don’t think that people deny that the climate does change. I just think that if you consider historical evidence you will see that is normal and bound to happen. On another hand, believe we can stop, prevent, change is an utter fool’s game, more like manipulative ploy by the powerful to control and have things in the most beneficial way for their wallets.
No. The scale and speed of the change is not normal. https://xkcd.com/1732/
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Helium balloons; helium is a finite resource of immense scientific value and we use it for party decorations
Well, today I learned something ! I thought it was produced chemically, or by some sort of extraction process from other stuff. Turns out it's a natural gaz, and yes, we're slowly depleting the world reserves.
The problem is that Helium is so light, that it easily gets enough energy to fly off Earths atmospere and not fall back to Earth. So despite it being the second most abundant stuff in the universe, finding it on Earth is rare. Since it is a noble gas, we cannot just create it by some sort of chemical reaction, as it does not form bonds with anything else (unless you force it really hard). Helium can be created, but must be made from the ground up, by some fission proces where an antom split an release a helium neuclei which gets some electrons added. Hence we tend to extract it from the ground where som radioactive materials have slowly decayed over millions of years, so it is generated really slowly, and hence we may deplete the reserves faster than they regenerate.
Load More Replies...Learnt something recently, if we ever get Fusion energy working it'll produce Helium as a by -product.
This should be higher. I can't even believe they still allow it to be sold for that reason
Yeah stop wasting it on balloons when we need it to sound like the chipmunks
Load More Replies...Certain groups were more impressionable, however. Men between the ages of 18-29, for example, were the most likely to be affected by what they read online, with 29% of them reporting that a social media post changed their views on an issue. The people who note that social media affects their beliefs also credit those sites for inspiring them to become more socially active. 67% of them said that social media is important to them for “finding others who share views about important topics” and 63% of them say social media is important for “getting involved with political or social issues”. 56% of them also noted that social media is important to them personally for “giving them a venue to express their political opinions”.
Horse racing. I come from an area that takes great pride in it. I've recently learned more about it and feel that it is animal abuse. They are shot up with steroids and other drugs and die more often than you would even think.
My neighbor adopted one. Didn't know you could do that. But they are in need of being adopted after they finish their racing years.
Load More Replies...I will probably get downvoted for this but it highly depends on the kind of racing, the country and the culture. I alway thought the same until I made a move towards the trot horse racing track where I grew up. I saw awesome horses, in great shape, well cared for, no violent behavior of any kind (I've seen far worse in riding stables and even professional, international competitions). Nobody makes money with trot horses here, even odds (betting) are not high, more than often like 1:1,5. Thing is, I had the chance to become part of a shared ownership of two trot horses and we found an awesome coach and driver for them. Apart from an hour of training, they're outside being horses almost 24/7, well cared for, have long breaks between races (2-5 weeks) and get longer break-periods if needed. Race regulations are high, fines are expensive. I cannot speak for other countries or (Galopp races) but horse racing highly depends on the culture behind it.
JJ Don't kid yourself doll. Trotters as well as ANY OTHER animal racing for sport is controlled by drug testing. I can attest to this because I am from a Horse racing town in NY that has both kinds of racing Harness & Thoroughbreds. . There are GOOD trainers and there are BAD trainers, they will eventually be caught & fined or even banned. It is to tally the equal of the Olympics If you think Thoroughbreds aren't taken care of.....come see my town. Multi-Billions (I dare say) are spent on the health and welfare of these magnificent beings. The BEST in barns and care. Before anyone criticizes the industry please do your due diligences and research please. Fun Fact: 95% of thoroughbreds linked to one superstud. Virtually all 500,000 of the world’s thoroughbred racehorses are descended from 28 ancestors, born in the 18th and 19th centuries, according to a new genetic study. And up to 95% of male thoroughbreds can be traced back to just one stallion.
Load More Replies...horse/animal racing, dog fighting, bullfighting...it's all animal abuse. Every time i see all of these people going to these events I'm just astounded at how they can do it. I eat meat occasionally so I understand it's hypocritical but I don't abuse the animal, you know? We're making these animals slaves and abusing them on top of it. Bullfighting is my biggest grievance. You see sometimes the bull doesn't want to fight and is scared, and they purposely prod it and shock it into attacking. So many animals want nothing more than to either love us or leave us alone and we abuse them so horribly. But more, we have to humiliate and degrade them beforehand. Isn't it enough you're killing them for food or sport? Do you also have to whip and kick them? Scare them? Take their babies? Throw them against walls and other horror stories. We aren't going to hell for the way we treat each other...we will for the way we treat animals.
Kate doll, I hear ya. But in the grand scheme of things ... aren't Child molesters/killers, People who murder just as bad? Please do research on the subject. It was history that brought us the sport, along with many other BAD things. And future generations to continue to fix. As it is now 98% of horses are protected. Including wild ones.
Load More Replies...Any animal being forced to do things like that, and suffering, is wrong
My mom used to own a retired race horse. He retired at 2 years old and was 7 years old when she got him. He still had injection marks all up his legs. He had behavioural issues and the attention span of a kid with ADHD. My mom had to sell him to someone else as he just wasn't a good fit for trail rides.
It’s true. It’s celebrated as the sport of Kings, as if it was something glamorous. Almost all the horses wind up being exploited for two years then turned into dog food. It’s an animal slaughter factory.
I worked at a horse racing cable channel; it should be banned along with dog racing...
The rodeo. I firmly believe that to be animal abuse and no one can change my mind.
Working Hard.
More specifically, working hard in a corporate environment. I like to work hard for things that I own and maintain, my home, my family, my body, my hobbies. But I've worked for almost 20 years for big tech companies. I've started at entry level jobs and worked up to middle management. Support jobs. Sales jobs. I've made 6 figures.
What I've noticed is that they want to pay you less and keep training and experience as a reward. That is to say, you are not working for a paycheck. You are working towards the next thing. But they convince everyone to work hard in an entry level position, working unpaid overtime and you might be rewarded with a higher job. Statistically, you will not be promoted. There are 30 people on your team who all have that same goal and you can't all be supervisor or manager.
Now, I just work for my paycheck. If you would like me to work harder, you can pay me more. I'm not going to go above and beyond for 2 years just to get passed over again.
Competition, in many if not most cases, is utterly pointless. Merit alone rarely accounts for who gets a promotion, rather who got the boss to like them for other reasons. I have seen too many WTF promotions to believe in that system.
So true, basically if you lick the bosses butt enough you can have anything you want. You can lie, steal, cheat abuse and get that big pay raise and promotion above decent workers
Load More Replies...Mediocrity gets promoted. They know not to reward the really hard workers because they're the ones actually getting things done.
The best workers are rarely promoted. If you promote them then you have to find someone just as qualified to take their position.
I once worked in team of 5 people, and one of us was supossed to get promotion. Guess who got promotion? Not me, not any of my colleagues. They hired new lady, add her to our team, and promoted her week later. She had zero experience. So person, who was supposed to supervise us, was constantly asking us what to do.
If I were paid for all the times I got duped into working for a "life experience", working my butt off for sub-par pay, I'd be able to pay my bills now.
I didn't think orthopedic shoes were for me, but I stand corrected.
Listen to what your body tells you. Whatever heals your sole is what's right for you.
By 2020, 23% of Americans on social media said that “they have changed their views about a political or social issue because of something they saw on social media in the past year”. That alone (the jump from 14% to 23% over the course of 2 years) is a perfect indication of how people’s opinions change over time. People between the ages of 18-29 were still the most impressionable in 2020, with 34% of them reporting that their views had shifted from social media. The topics that people were most likely to change their minds about were the Black Lives Matter Movement, police brutality/need for police reform, political parties/ideologies/politicians, and race relations in general. One 64 year old woman stated, “Reading articles on the BLM movement has opened my eyes to the degree of systemic racism in this country and the world.” While another respondent, a 50 year old man said, “I used to support BLM, but now I see them as violent domestic terrorists not interested in addressing the real problems within the Black community. BLM is about a communist revolution not about helping the Black community…”
Mormons.
My ex-wife’s sister married one.
Before they met, my opinion of Mormons was “oh they’re basically just Christian’s with a couple wacky beliefs. They have multiple wives! How kooky yet ultimately harmless.”
The more of his family & community I met and interacted with, the more clear it became that Mormonism is a cult that preys on weak people like my ex-SIL. She converted within three months. His temple wouldn’t allow her own mother or father inside during the wedding. They had to sit outside in the sun, alone, then pay for a separate “ring ceremony” they were allowed to attend.
Learning more about a different culture or religion usually makes me more accepting, but maaaan f**k Mormons.
I was raised a Mormon. The oppressiveness is very subtle and creates sort of a Stockholm Syndrome among true believers. One of my biggest objections with them is their one-size-fits-all view of life that they claim is God's Plan. Conform conform conform...
The thing I don't understand about religions like Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons is their need to force their beliefs onto other people. Mate, I'm not gonna change my religion because you gave me a pamphlet and an ideological mugging outside the supermarket. Back off. No, I don't want a Watchtower. No. Go away.
Ha, it ain't just them. Proselytizing is a big part of MANY religions. In Christianity, it's usually referred to as "saving" people. Some will tell you that you won't get into heaven unless you actively "save" many others. That's why they can also be so pushy about it
Load More Replies...I've known Mormons who are lovely people and quite sane. And some who are effed up. Just like any sect/religion/cult/society. But if people are keeping that many secrets? I always ask *why*.
My ex-husband was raised in a Mormon family but didn't practice it. His parents did, still do. It is absolutely a cult. The sexism is off the charts. They are a clique. They protect each other, regardless of right or wrong. They are annoyingly persistent, trying to force you to believe everything they do, even after you say no. Even though they won't admit it, they are highly racist. I don't like any religion, but this is one of the worst. The Mormons have never heard of personal boundaries.
Most of the Mormons I know are really good people overall with the exception of one or two specific beliefs I'm not OK with. Such as a 50s view of marriage equality. But that could just be the local flavor.
Part of the religion is how to "act" nice around nonbelievers. If you are a Mormon leaving the religion though you are cutoff. The actual religion itself is sexist, racist, and awful in general.
Load More Replies...Organized religion "God loves you....and he needs MONEY!" They're all trash, equally deserving of scorn for the institutions who perpetuate the systems, and pity for those stuck in their snare.
Some Mormons still have multiple wives. The main church currently forbids it, but many offshoots still practice it. A big part of Mitt Romney’s family fled to Mexico so they could practice polygamy (there’s interesting documentaries about it). But, the church was founded by 2 evil polygamist men. So what type of message does that send?
Load More Replies...mormonism, isn't this the racist cult that claims that native americans were not really the true natives and that whites were? I seem to recall reading that somewhere.
It’s worse than that. The claim was that the original group that came over were white people from Jerusalem (even though DNA evidence not shows this to be impossible). The wicked brothers that split off from the original group were cursed with dark skin (like Cain). The white group was civilized and thrived and the dark skinned group was uncivilized and blood thirsty. The 2 groups warred for centuries, and eventually the whites were killed off, with some assimilation between the white and dark skinned groups. And that’s where Native Americans supposedly came from. Some of these claims have since been walked back somewhat as scientific evidence has developed.
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Feminism. I thought it excluded the inequalities men face. I learned that if the problem women face is fixed it takes care of the ones men do as a bonus.
Feminism is equality for all. Feminism is not about bashing and demeaning men, none of us feminists claim those who do so
Load More Replies...Too many (closed minded) people think that when you are for something you must be against something else: if you are pro women's rights does not mean you are against men's rights or trans' rights.
Why is a movement that is about liberating women so misunderstood it's still about men? Yes, I'm a feminist. No, I don't hate all men.
Yes. I wish more people could understand that it's not about wanting to be superior or that women are somehow better than men or "hating men". Why it's called FEMINism is because it's original cause is to bring awareness to the fact that all genders are not considered equal and a way to try to reach equity. It has NOTHING to do with women being, or wanting to be, superior. If you are not a feminist it is basically saying that you agree that men should continue to have those privileges and that we aren't equal at all. And that it's the way it should be. (We also forget that the patriarchal structures hurt men too in many ways (maybe not at the same level but still).
Too much propaganda equating the various forms of feminism to toxic feminism. And sadly it's even been successful in brainwashing a surprising number of women into believing it too and trying to avoid the stigma of being associated with it.
Load More Replies...It's not a zero-sum game. Women (or POC, or LGBTQ+, etc.) gaining rights does NOT take anything away from men, or anyone else. There's plenty to go around if people could just stop fighting for 2 seconds.
True feminists want what’s healthy and happy for men too. Feminism is equality, love and protection for all.
Homelessness. I used to have no patience or or empathy thinking that if they really wanted to change their circumstances they could find the resources. My mind changed when I began working with special education children and realized most of these people probably have specific learning disabilities that our school system/their families failed to identify or help them with. I also realize how privileged I grew up (my dad was a store manager and my mom a teacher so nothing too special but still we had everything we needed and good relationships with each other) and how much worse some people grew up with and how easily people can get trapped in bad circumstances.
I used to think most homeless people were criminals, druggies or alcoholics but after watching quite a few docos and lots of research I discovered that most homelessness is caused by unfortunate circumstances. Things like mental illness (main cause), disability, aged out of the foster system, family abuse, job loss which cause housing loss, medical debt (US) and much more. A lot of homeless turn to drugs and alcohol once they are on the street. It's a way tonumb their reality, as well as pass the time. There is not enough support for homeless people and what services there are, there scattered all over the place or just not enough to go around. Homelessness is FAR more complicated than you actually think.
Homeless people are like the rest of us - some are decent folks, some are drunkards or junkies. You can't tar them all with the same brush. Some years ago a long-time friend of mine wound up homeless, so I let him stay at my townhouse. He held up his end by helping with groceries and around-the-house maintenance (thanks for finally fixing that dang towel rack in my bathroom!) I'm glad that he spent the last 2 1/2 years of his life with a roof over his head rather than living in a van.
Load More Replies...And people's brain is literally changed by early childhood trauma. So by not having support for parents like parental leave, health care and significant, individualized, strength based support for parents facing difficult circumstances, you are literally creating the same struggles for next generation https://developingchild.harvard.edu/resources/inbrief-resilience-series/ Edit: more applicable link
I became homeless when I finally left an abusive spouse. It's not just a matter of "getting a job". Many homeless people do, in fact, have full-time jobs. Shelters are not the answer for everyone and sometimes they have time limits on how long one can stay. In my state, the number 1 reason for homelessness is poverty; lack of affordable housing, lack of affordable healthcare, domestic violence and then mental/physical issues. Substance abuse and addiction are the least common reasons
I'm gonna take a bit of umbrage at the "so nothing too special" line here. If you grew up with two gainfully employed parents who treated you well, you very much have something special. Look around at the world, that's pure gold right there. And never let anyone say that since they weren't millionaires or some s**t that it's not enough. If you grew up well enough to take it for granted, you've got something special.
This is what I fear will happen to my developmentally delayed/disabled daughter if she leaves home without the proper supports. When she has her programs in place she thrives like there's no issues with her. Once any of those support blocks are taken away she loses confidence and ability to figure things out. She's welcome to stay at home as long as she needs. I could never just toss her out to the wolves. I don't know how families can do that.
This is so true. And it can all be traced back to dismantling the mental health system in the 80s (thanks again, Reagan...). It's also why crime and prison populations are exploding. A good chunk if the people I've seen in prison are obviously in need of serious mental help, not incarceration under inhumane conditions. How many murders and other horrible crimes would have never happened if we only just took care of our most vulnerable? How many "criminals" would have been productive members of society instead?
Watching interviews on "Invisible People" (YouTube) allowed me to see how the homeless are not always drug addled or lazy or stupid. Frequently it is a combination of timing and bad luck.
Maybe they don't have disabilities, maybe they just got taken out by something like a capitalist healthcare system that bankrupted them, or a capitalist education system,etc.
Been homeless. With kids in tow. There are so many reasons people are homeless, it's not just alcohol and drugs. Yea, personal choices can and do play a role sometimes but the saying that most of us are just paycheck away from homelessness is truer than anyone wants to think
Children with learning disabilities were supposedly better off before Bush’s “no child left behind” act. He really missed the mark with that one. I learned this from the teachers I worked with. They were all special ed “teachers” (I was a special ed aide) and they all had the same legal difficulties - getting physically assaulted (I got scratched, punched, kicked and slapped) from the special needs children. This was 5 different schools in one city in one state. Most of these children had the same issue. They were poor AND their mothers were prostitutes. If they were living in a northern state, they’d all have been below the poverty line.
While we’re certainly all capable of changing our minds, it can be challenging to get there. We tend to be stubborn, so Dr. Maria Cohut of Medical News Today took a look at why exactly that is. She references a study that investigated “what, exactly, happens in the brain that makes people so unlikely to change their minds”, and notes that facts are often not enough to alter people’s opinions. “For instance,” the researchers of the study wrote, “over the last decade climate scientists have expressed greater confidence that climate change is man-made. Yet, the percentage of the population that believes this notion to be true has dropped over the same period of time.”
All lives matter VS Black Lives Matter. I’m not racist, and I thought saying that “all lives matter” was better than BLM because it included everyone, meaning that everyone is important. Thankful I have a wife who is smarter than me and helped me to realized that BLM is important because of the attention that it shows/brings to the group of people who are being treated unfairly. That’s the nice thing about being open minded is you can change and not feel bad about it.
I am still shocked that people didn't understand the message of BLM (the slogan) it that Black Lives Matter TOO. Not sure if it's stupidity or racism that makes people think otherwise..
All lives do matter - but we have to say Black Lives Matter because our effed-up society still values them less than white lives. I am angry that my life should be more valuable than the lives of my Black friends, co-workers, neighbors, Meetup pals, etc.
Load More Replies...On a few occasions, I've had to say to people I know, "They are saying 'Black Lives Matter'. They are not saying 'ONLY Black Lives Matter'. They are not saying 'Black Lives Matter MORE'. They just want to matter."
This actually didn't age well considering the scandals involved with the organizers and the eventual violence on Asians. In retrospect, "All Lives Matter" should've been the agenda.
The best way I read it explained was that saying black lives matter is attacking a striking problem upfront, it isnt sayin anything negative about other races... Just like Save The Rainforest didn't mean f**k all other forests
Load More Replies...I can't remember where I heard it but I think it sums it up nicely "All lives can't matter until black lives matter"
A family member said the January 6 insertion was payback for BLM violence. Needless to say, I have spoken with her since. Totally disgusted.
"All houses matter!" said the outraged neighbour, when the fire department was trying to extinguish the fire on his neighbour's house.
"Save the rainforest" "But all forests matter". I saw this as a comic some day and it just explains it all.
To me, it's actually helpful not to put it in any kind of context; just make it a yes or no question. Do Black lives matter? There are still some people who can get this wrong, and that makes me sick.
Here’s a scenario I imagine. You’re at a school science fair with 100 students. During the fair, 13 of the students have their projects defaced, ridiculed and passed over for judgment. Finally, a few of them say, “Enough! Enough of this! We worked hard, we played fair! Our projects matter!” And then the other students, their parents and the teachers, pearls clutched and red in the face, bellow, “Oh, so ours don’t?! ALL PROJECTS MATTER!”
That actually a really good analogy and explanation! Well done :)
Load More Replies...No one was saying "All lives DON'T matter" or "black lives matter more". That was the message being sent by the population that lives in fear of diversity and equality. It was a reminder that despite the systemic violence against people of color, their lives matter.
Cats! I never grew up around cats, thought they were mean. Now I date a girl who has a cat and I have a cat of my own. I love them so much.
I hated cats for years, didn't help that my dad was anti cats, I am allergic to cats and the first time I pet a cat the bugger scratched me. Anyway over the years my mind has changed, I don't hate cats anymore (I hate a lot of cat owners instead lol) If I wasn't allergic I would even consider having one as a pet.
I believe it's the cat's saliva that you will be allergic to. I think you can get a course of treatment that will deal with your allergy. I wouldn't want you to miss out on having a cat in your life.
Load More Replies...I grew up with dogs and cats, but my whole family had the view that dogs are smart and affectionate and cuddly, but cats are are neat, but indifferent and aloof. Well, if you think cats are indifferent and aloof, you treat them as such and be treated that way in return. But once I really got to know cats, I found what spectacular, weird, hilarious and sweet animals they are. Yeah, they can be a challenge, but if you give them love and attention, they’ll give it all back and then some.
I don't hate cats, by any means. But if we're all being honest, the majority of adult cats ARE kinda a-holes. And I say this with nothing but love.
Mine sure are. Wonderful, loving, empathic, caring aššholes.
Load More Replies...I got a kitten (shelter kitten) a while after I got married. It took a few years of living with said cat to realize that having a litter box is a deal breaker for me. Until I can figure out a way around a litter box, no cats.
I identify more with cats because they behave the way I feel. Which is kinda hedonistic and misanthropic. They feel honest. A dog however feels a bit like Jar Jar Binks to me. Sweet, kind, loving, etc., but kinda intrusive. Also, can I just check if I am imagining things ? I get the impression americans generally are "Dog people" and britishers are generally "cat people" ?
I never had a dog or cat but still liked them. Never had a negative encounger.
I grew up hating cats until I discovered they really help keep rodents out of your house. Thought this was a cartoonish myth until I witnessed it first hand in a apartment me and my now husband shared. My cat caught the mouse and presented to us. We didn't have any mice ever since. I also saw my cat give birth to her litter and that sold me hard on liking cats. Those kittens were sooo adorable. So now I like cats and dogs.
That case where McDonald's had to pay a bunch of money to a woman who spilled hot coffee on herself.
McDonald's didn't pay her a bunch of money. All she wanted was her medical costs covered and they wouldn't even do that. And then the badmouthed her to the world to make her the villain. Arseholes. But yeah, I believed this story for years . . .
Also the coffee was not "slightly too hot to drink" but scalding, leaving her with second degree burns.
Load More Replies...The coffee was so hot it fused her labia together. Think about that. Fused. Her. Labia. Together. And there are people who still go all "hurrbudurrr it's coffee; it's supposed to be hot. what was she expecting?" She wasn't expecting her labia to be FUSED TOGETHER.
It's also the fact that they apparently kept their coffee at near boiling temperatures. You can't get these kinds of terrible burns she had by spilling your homemade coffee on yourself, because it's not NEARLY that hot even fresh out of the machine.
Load More Replies...We all did. And with nearly no knowledge of what actually happened. Again though incident was in 1992. Trial was in 1994. That’s two years for circulation. And no one was talking about it in 1994.
Load More Replies...The most damaging testimony against McDonald's was from McDonald's own safety experts. They had emphatically warned their employer for years about this ongoing danger, and McDonald's did nothing. Ignoring the advice of your own experts about a serious danger is the textbook definition of "negligence" under the law.
Can't tell you how many times I've told the real story over the years. It's one of my major pet peeves when people use the headline (without any info) to talk about how horrible and greedy lawyers are. I'm not one, but I'm smart enough to realize how valuable and needed they are., not just when I need one.
According to the researchers, confirmation bias is a strong force. This was tested through an experiment where participants were randomly paired off with partners and shown images of real estate listings. The participants were then asked to evaluate what they would expect the asking price of each property to be, either more or less than an amount set by investors. Each participant then decided how much they would be willing to invest. Next they were asked to take functional MRI scans facing their partners, with a glass screen dividing them. Each participant could see on the glass screen images of the properties, the asking price estimates and how much they said they would be willing to invest. Then, the participants were shown their partners’ responses.
Turns out girls don't have cooties. It's actually pretty great to spend time with one. You don't even have to pick on them to get their attention... Who knew!
The poster has been infected! Quick, administer the cure.... circle circle dot dot now they have the cootie shot.
Load More Replies...American here. I'd say, to me, it was more like a "boogeyman" when I was a kid (80s). Not necessarily lice, but just a way to describe the general idea of girls being "icky" when you're young. Many also believe they come from girls... behinds.
Load More Replies...They don't????? You're telling me I made my wife and daughters sleep in a tent in the yard all those years for nothing?
Picking on girls is just the patriarchy trying to get women to believe that abuse is all part of being liked by men and men to believe being a**holes won't scare the ladies away...
Turns out girls and women are human beings just like boys and men are. Wow
Cooties are just a saying for 'gross' when kids are going through the phase where the opposite gender is disgusting ☺️. Yes, it's outdated. Cooties can make you like a girl or boy when you're going thru the 'yuck' phase.
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Being sober, took a eightish year landslide to one of the darkest places I've been in my life and not once in those eight years you could of talked me into putting down the bottle of whiskey that was glued to my hand. Been sober coming up on five years now and I couldn't think of being anything other than sober. I won't sit here and say it's not easy, it is honestly one of the hardest things I have to deal with on a consistent basis. But the rewards are priceless.
Congratulations 🥳. It was probably a very tough journey since being addicted to something makes your brain not want to stop it. Congrats again
This was posted on Reddit. You're not going to be able to reply to the person who posted it on a completely different website.
Load More Replies...Something just occurred to me. I've posted a few comments on BP over time about enjoying an occasional drink, visiting liquor stores, etc. I wasn't thinking about alcoholics or how those comments might affect them. Was that inconsiderate on my part? In any case, congratulations to those of you who are now sober!
Nah, you're good. We must learn to live in the world as it is, and with people as they are, and do the things necessary to keep our disease in remission. That's not on you or anyone else. But your thoughtfulness is very kind. 🙂
Load More Replies...It's really hard to get out of. I never ever thought I would and I accidentally discovered sobriety. Literal accident. I don't miss the crippling anxiety and depression caused by the alcohol. I always thought alcohol made life easier. It's only from the flip side I can see so clearly it didn't. But recognising you have an issue is massive. I never did. I thought I liked to drink. I don't miss it at all now. Seems crazy but I can work with that. Good luck with whatever decision you choose.
Load More Replies...I can't stand when people think 'once a junkie, always a junkie' or 'if they overdose, they deserve it' that sh*t is so cruel. I came from a family of addicts, then became an addict as an adult. Now I have 8 years clean. Nobody CHOOSES that life, and people CAN change
I also have 8 years. Congrats! I would never go back to the way I was living. It runs in my family too - along with mental illness. Most people don't realize how often they go hand in hand.
Load More Replies...Those fortunate enough not to become addicts really have no clue that we are serious when we talk about the dark space. This of us who are clawing our way back from that hell have to cheer each other on, because we know how much work it is every day. Keep going, Bro. You're worth it
Alcohol (and some other things) got me through a really dark period in my past. Not drinking it, not having it around "just in case" makes me anxious. Yes of course I'm not 100% repaired. But coming from the near train wreck that I used to be, it's barely a scratch. And repairing the rest was painful enough that I have no appetite to try and go back there to get rid of this last character flaw
I wish more people could come to this realisation. Alcohol is responsible for a lot of destruction in this world, and the problems are often not just constrained to the alcoholic alone. But it can be really hard to see, as the alcohol is a "great" short term solution, and being sober and having to face all the demons will feel so wrong in the beginning until you develop the proper tools for fighting them. Qudos for those who choose to stay in the game, I know how hard you struggle.
Getting therapy. My upbringing is within an asian household so when it comes to dealing with emotions, we tend to shove that into jar and move on.
I used to think that receiving therapy is for the mentally ill, weak etc. I don't have "problems" therefore I don't need therapy. But after recent events in 2021 with certain people I tried therapy and after a few sessions it just revealed some baggage I wasn't even aware of.
Honestly I wish I started earlier when I was in my 20s. I would be more emotionally prepared, and would probably have had healthier relationships with women if I had dealt with the trauma growing up and from my first relationship that devastated me.
We have a friend from Shanghai and felt the same about therapy as that's how he was brought up. That was until he ended up in a mental health facility. Now he is much more understanding when it comes to mental health and the necessary support.
I think all could benefit from therapy. To let you know yourself better and be more emotionally competent. Sadly I know a few, maybe especially men, that see it as some type of weakness. It's not, it's a skill and a strength. I know my husband is one of those (he was raised that way) and sometimes it's just sad (and frustrating) to see him struggle with things that could be fixed.
I'm sure it helps a lot of people. But it isn't positive for everyone. I wish I'd never taken it
Load More Replies...And here I see my dad, a man desperately in need of therapy yet has similar views to that of Rick from Rick and Morty. I suggested it last week and we ended up in a screaming match. Which is hurtful because I've been in therapy and he knows this. I wouldn't have gotten this far without one.
Brains are big, complex machines. They all need fixin' every once in a while.
Being able to support this is one of the most important reasons for universal health care. Mental health issues are incredibly common and can spiral out of control as people "try to deal with it themselves" which usually means suppressing or ignoring it. But if dealt with, especially early on, it can be no different to managing a condition like high BP, be that through medication or other courses (therapy, exercise...) and prevent other problems from developing in the future
Simmilar emotional jar here, also my niece too. We need therapy, all of our family does, but noooo its only for mental Ill people And we are not loons
The researchers found that, when their partners agreed with their evaluation of the property value, participants would be more willing to invest more into those houses, especially if their partners had said they would invest larger amounts. Yet when the partnered participants disagreed about the property value, their opinions would fail to influence each other’s final decision as to how much they would be willing to invest in that house. The conclusion researchers came to, after studying the brain activity revealed by the MRI scans, is that our “brains fail to encode opposing views”. We ignore beliefs that contradict our own and cling to ideas that strengthen ours.
Pineapple on pizza is absolutely delicious as f**k. and the only reason I ever thought it was bad was beause I was bandwagonning on the hate just like everyone else is. It's hard to appreciate a piece of food if you literally go into it with the intent of hating it.
For me, it was exactly the opposite. I thought it'd be okay until I tried and immediately hated it. However, I don't hate on others what they eat, it's just my personal decision.
I hate it too...mainly because the sensation of biting into warm pineapple is awful, but hey if Jeff down the street wants to eat it great! Go right ahead!
Load More Replies...I never understood this argument. I don't like turnip, so I don't eat turnips, I don't go around telling people who like turnips they're wrong to like them.
Since I hate pineapple I am firm in my believe that pineapple pizza is awful without ever having tasted one. lol
The reason that they were originally hated is because some people considered them to be "selling out" by signing onto a record deal so they could make some consistent money. They aren't that bad at all, I still listen to a couple of their songs.
Load More Replies...Truth is, the Pineapple isn't the problem, it's the other nasty stuff commonly put with it that doesn't go with it. Like that terrible excuse for baked ham called "Canadian Bacon." That's the real enemy here.
Yeah I f****d around and did pineapple with pepperoni and have never looked back. Oh also with jalapenos and banana peppers.
Load More Replies...I'm not sure why it's "taboo". Sweet and salty goes together, period. If you don't like it, that's, cool. But don't be a food snob with others. I'm also an adult that likes ketchup. You gonna gatekeep me on that, too?
Honestly, I used to love it until it just started to taste worse, and then I discovered banana peppers which are even better.
Pickled artichokes. I buy a jar and put them on any pizza I make, frozen or otherwise.
Load More Replies...Pineapple and jalapenos are my favorite pizza toppings. Well that and taco pizza.
YES! Give me that sweet and spicy with chicken and real bacon
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Legalization of marijuana. Used to be incredibly anti drug and pro keeping it illegal. Now I fully support decriminalization at the very least (still extremely anti drug personally, but came to my senses regarding real life)
Same. We were inundated with anti drug propaganda as kids, and up until my late teens I thought you tried weed once and next day you were a junkie (drugs were also non existent in the area where i grew up, so I didn't know anyone who had tried it) Then I read some stuff, and met some people, and though I've never used drugs myself I'm definitely pro legalization and regulation. That's the logical route, based on the science.
In 8th grade, we had to give a 5 minute oral report on any social issue we wanted followed by 5 minutes of questions from the class on the topic. It was end of the year report, accounted for a huge portion of our grade. I chose Marijuana legalization and the war on drugs. This class was a double period with two class sizes worth of students. English/Lit. I got called on first (i was actively stoned at the time, and perpetually late with all school work while acing every test) My report ended up being 15 pages long, took me 20 minutes to get through. And the remainder of that period, the next period, and the study hall period following it was spent with me fielding questions from everyone while THREE teachers (social studies teacher was called in at some point) increasingly tried and failed to pick apart my arguments and facts. This was back in 97 or 98 in a very upper class school district....
Load More Replies...The only problem I have with weed and the people that use it is that they do it in the street and it absolutely stinks to the point of nausea. Please, if you must do it then do it in your own home. Why should I have to keep MY windows closed on nice days because YOU wanna smoke?
yep, 100% support people who want to have weed but please away from me, it also makes me feel nauseous.
Load More Replies...People need to stop trying to take away other people's medicine.
or recreation. You don't need to justify it as a medicine. In sensible countries (like ours, SA), we do not care. You can do it.
Load More Replies...I’ve never been pro-weed and never had it. However, I understand why people want it legalised and would have no issue with it except for the smell! If they can find a way to engineer cannabis without the smell, then fair enough, legalise it.
I'm totally opposite, always loved the smell even before I started smoking it myself.
Load More Replies...I'm not sure whether I agree with legalising it to be smoked, as it bystanders also unfortunately have to breathe it. Think of the case where someone is legally smoking weed in a car - that smoke will also adversely affect the driver of the car. However the extracts from it have been proven to help with pain relief and other illnesses and these should definitely be legalised.
Tbh, I thought this was going to be a far bigger issue but it's actually no worse than before it was legal. Perhaps better than before. People used to have to make their own pot edibles, and that was riskier because of the smell that could tip off neighbours. Now you can go to a cannabis store and just buy them. Edibles are more popular than smoking weed, now. I still see some people outside with their bongs. The smell, I find, dissipates faster than cigarette smoke. Cigarette smokers, I've found, have gotten way more obnoxious and careless over the years, and not caring about who is around them, or even where they're lighting up. At least in my city. The biggest issue with legal weed and edibles is children have gotten into them, and one house was reported to have "accidentally" handed out pot edibles to trick 'r' treaters.
Load More Replies...I used to think the same way and still have reservations about it. I won't do any drugs myself, as I know myself enough that it's not something I should be doing for the sake of my mental health. But I know it helps other people who are dealing with chronic pain. My ex is a "pothead" and even more so after a few severe injuries that haven't fully healed. I've never been pressured or tricked into consuming weed. It's never happened with anyone I've come across who smokes weed. All those anti-drug adverts seem even more cheesier and fear-mongering than I had viewed them as a kid.
Now there’s one area where the US is most definitely way ahead of us swedes. We’re still wasting police time on it, and it isn’t as if they have a whole lot of time to waste. It’s some strange old “zero tolerance”/“war against drugs” remnant that went wrong somehow I think. But at least discussion about legalizing have started here at long last. Admittedly, I’m not a user myself, but I meet a lot of people in my job who are - users, that is. The biggest problem with that, if I’m to be asked, is that it’s still foolishly illegal. I’ve seldom met people who abuses marijuana. They exist, but that abuse is just the cover to an abyss of cataclysmic mental unhealth and dysfunction and the weed is the least of their problems.
Mother Teresa, my family spoke highly of her when I was a kid, she received a number of honours from Indian government, won the Nobel Peace Prize and the church made her a saint, I thought she was a good person until a friend told me the truth about her and showed me some articles.
She was an attention whore and a hypocrite. Says a lot about the Catholic church that they made her a saint.
Yep. You're talking about a religion that continues to call pedophiles and their cover-op accomplices "Men of God" and "Popes".
Load More Replies...Untill a few weeks ago I thought she was a good person as well. How come they don’t even teach us these things?
there's a Penn and Teller on it called "Holier than Thou".
Load More Replies...“MT [Mother Teresa] was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction.” - Christopher Hitchens
There are a lot of "good" people that shouldn't be praised without checking their backround - Ghandi would be such example, too
The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. had his flaws, too. Still, I admire him and the other leaders of the civil rights movement.
Load More Replies...I tried to defend Mother Teresa's life when it was eclipsed by Lady Diana's tragic death . . . after a few years of hearing what Mother T was doing, I can't say good things about her anymore. Diana was helping. Mother T was a product of the church and not a help to her fellow man. What a waste . . .
Although opinions can be difficult to alter in brief moments, according to Christopher Soto at NPR, our personalities naturally change throughout our entire lives. Soto first explained that our personalities are organized into the “Big Five” trait dimensions: extraversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness, negative emotionality, and open-mindedness. According to various studies, most of us can become more agreeable, conscientious and emotionally resilient as we get older. Soto notes that these shifts typically happen over decades and are hard to pinpoint to specific causes, but they can be beneficial to our lives. Further developing these specific traits can even lead to happier, longer lasting marriages, according to a study in Sage Journals. This slow personality evolution can also explain how our beliefs can shift over time as well.
Roundabouts. Based on all the complaints, I assumed they were confusing and unnecessary. When my city put in a bunch, I realized that I no longer had to wait 3 minutes at all of the punishment lights. Love roundabouts now.
...Of course that didn't stop the older population of the city from trying to have them removed. One guy even ran for city council on the platform that he would immediately put the stop lights back in. Change is hard, I guess.
"You can't protest against surge in gas price and insult the president if you don't have roundabouts" - French proverb
Oh yeah, the French love their roundabouts, I came to notice. And I resented them for it, although I know they work. But oh my, so many roundabouts! They were too many for me!
Load More Replies...People don't like change. It is as simple as that. I grew up with roundabouts, so they are normal to me, and not at all scary. The only roundabouts I have trouble comprehending are the "magic roundabouts", which is basically one big roundabout formed by 5 or so smaller roundabouts. They work well up to the point where the roundabout is full of traffic, then nothing moves. On busy roundabouts we actually have traffic lights that operate at peak times.
I've been one of those people complaining about roundabouts, but it was one in particular. The one in question has multiple lanes within the circle itself, and at least one of those lanes peels off (is a mandatory exit), so you have to know ahead of time which lane to be in at what part of the roundabout, all while trying to watch traffic. So, yeah, it *is* very confusing and stressful.
Where I live they have added quite a few in the past decade or so. Before that, there were none. For the past several years the local annual report of "10 most dangerous intersections" includes around 4 or 5 roundabouts. The problem isn't the roundabouts, it's the fact that people around here don't bother to slow down entering them and end up causing a lot of accidents. I even saw a gravel hauler roll over in one because the driver took it way too fast.
Roundabouts are the bane of any good driver. A lot of confused people causing crashes, a lot of people not indicating where they are going, a lot of unnecessary breaks in the traffic flow, a lot of people realising to be in the wrong lane out of the sudden. I’ve lived in a lot of countries, give me a traffic sign or viaduct any time
Nuclear Power. I used to be anti-nuke, based solely on the potential worst-outcome of a catastrophic failure. While in college I saw a presentation on the various short-term and long-term negativities of all the different power generation methods and nuclear is actually one of the safest, even including the 3 major incidents of Chernobyl, 3-Mile Island, and Fukushima. Additionally, coal-burning power is so unfathomably bad for everyone involved in every stage from mining the coal to living anywhere close to the plant that it is just orders of magnitude worse than anything else. Nuclear has the best balance of reliability, base-load, safety, and ROI of any method known for generating power.
Ok, talking about safety is alright. What about the storage of waste? Deconstruction of old reactors (storing that waste too) I would go this way: if we stop using it, we stop developing new methods , netter procedurs and so on. So not a complete no, but still, it’s not forever a go to way of producing electricity.
I agree with you. Nuclear energy is the safest yet we are still unable to find a solution to store the waste
Load More Replies...As a chemist working eith radioactive substances: nuclear power is NOT the way. It might be good shortterm til we figure out how to run the world with renewable energy, because it buys some time without emmitting CO2. But longterm it's the worst option.
Can you elaborate? Based on your expertise, what is the biggest hazard? Not arguing, genuinely curious
Load More Replies...In the long run, though, we will have to rely entirely on renewable sources. Nuclear, IMHO, is a stopgap measure while we wean ourselves off limited, polluting fossil fuels.
Nuclear power is a near infinite source of power. There is almost no waste and there is no pollution from nuclear. Nuclear is the future. All the solar panels and wind turbines in the world won’t produce enough energy for us. Not to mention solar panels and wind turbines don’t last very long and they sit in landfills forever when they go bad because they never breakdown. Not in our life times at least.
Load More Replies...Ppl always do this, like the only options are coal or nuclear. Sure nuclear might be better than coal, but there are plenty other alternativs
It's all about reliability - coal, gas and nuclear have a stable output. With alternatives that don't work with geothermal energy it becomes a lot harder to keep a stable system. We germans for example claim to be very green with our energy production - what doesn't get said is that we also have to buy nuclear energy from France and energy generated by coal in Poland to have a steady supply
Load More Replies...I just can't get onboard with that, it's safe until it isn't and everyone dies.
google numbers of coal deaths from coal mining please.
Load More Replies...I live in a state that has hydroelectric power. Can’t get much cleaner than water
The waste that comes from Nucelar Plants is so much and will never stop to be radioactive for thousands of years. And we have to store it savely. That is such a big problem. A big no to Nuclear Power.
Sing it with me: The sun is a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace!
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People going on morning runs. I kept reading stuff about how it helps with anxiety and depression. I didn't really understand because one, who tf has the energy to get up before the sun rises to RUN??? and two, what if ppl look at me weird etc etc... One day after a major afternoon breakdown which lead to deep sleep i woke up at 4am. Felt sick of looking at my room, changed into leggings and a hoodie, left the house without anyone knowing (i left a note) and started walking. Eventually, i started running. I felt my brain shut up for those few hours i spent running, i reached the next city and stopped to sit down at this random park. It just,, it felt so nice. I ran all the way over to the next city with nothing but my phone, earphones, and a bottle of water. The only way for me to get back home is to run back or call my dad to pick me up. I ran back. When I got home i felt so much better. Started going out to run once a week since then, found a usual spot for people who run, met nice people. Happiest I've ever been. Those sane and healthy f*****s were right.
Started walking (running hurts) for at least an hour every morning and I can confirm it is a great feeling
Walking is good, too. I have to be careful of my knees, ankles, hips and my smaller than normal airways. Running is not for everyone. But walking can be just as therapuetic.
Load More Replies...For me its the same. Nice nature and all... But yeah it doesn't do this nice s**t for me, also with going to a gym tried it for a year. Never was happy or felt that high or good like other people claimed to feel. 🤷♀️
Load More Replies...I also can’t run due to knee and ankle problems, but I used to find long walks to be incredibly therapeutic. Now I’m a dog walker, walking the same noisy, boring parts of the city day after day, and the last thing I want to do is go for a walk after work. I lost my only therapy! 🙁
About 20 years ago I had a job that I absolutely hated. It was sucking the life out of me but I stayed because the pay was good. I started swimming laps for 1-2 hours first thing in the morning and it was one of the best things I could have done for my mental health. The combination of the extra endorphins, time to myself undisturbed and alone with my own thoughts, and just the wonderful feeling of being immersed in the cold water made me feel so much better. I finally quit the job after realizing that the extra money in the bank wasn't making me happy.
Any physical activity will trigger the release of endorphins- essentially the human body's own feel-good chemical with some chemical similarities to opiates. This can also help your serotonin and dopamine levels which also aid in improving your mood. People do actually become addicted to the high they get from the endorphins (gym-junkies) but unlike opiates, endorphins don't come with a down side
I can swim hard for an hour but I have always hated running just to run even as a fairly elite athlete. Then there's the rain, heat, and 20F weather that runners endure in my area. Hats off to all you dedicated runners. I'd always hoped something would click for me with running but after reaching my 40's it looks unlikely. Love love love walks though.
Humans literally evolved for running/walking, so it makes us feel good mentally.
I recently started running after noticing that my diabetes was going crazy and I was starting to develop anxiety. 20 minutes per run with 8 sprints. I'm 1 week into it now with 3 running sessions. The first time I thought I wouldn't make it to the end. But the third time almost felt easy. Diabetes is not acting up for now and I love the Endorphine rush. Hopefully I can run longer by the end of next week and also get away from obesity. It feels great. It makes me want more, more, more.
Nope, I will go for hours-long walks after midnight, but you won't catch me running EVER, and I don't do 5-6am things. I am a night person, not a day person. Tried forcing myself into the day-person mode and it was the worst my mental health had ever been. Great if it works for you, and it doesn't hurt to try it out, just recognize that it isn't for everyone and pushing someone to do it is BS
While humans have a tendency to be stubborn and hold fast to our opinions, it’s refreshing to read this list of examples that we are capable of being open-minded. Especially because we live in a world that is so unpredictable and constantly changing, we should be allowed to do the same as well. Be sure to upvote the responses that gave you reason to pause and think, then let us know in the comments something you’ve changed your mind about!
Marriage. It’s really not for everybody.
I would say the same, but sometimes it is unfortunately. For example, a friend of a friend was very ill and unable to speak for himself. Because his girlfriend of 10+ years was not his wife she had no say in the treatments he received, so his mother took over and wouldn’t even allow his girlfriend to SEE him. The mother ended up taking ownership of his house and anything that was extremely valuable (he was very wealthy). He ended up passing and ‘til this day his girlfriend and friends are convinced his mother was terrorizing him until he died, but unfortunately had no proof. It was very sad.
Load More Replies...I think that the ceremony and the party aren’t really for everyone. But when you look at the marriage itself, the benefits it becomes easier to understand. It’s often times more about the legal contract.
I still think marriage should have a time limit. Any other legal contract, signing up for something for the REST OF YOUR LIFE would be a chump move. I feel like you should get a contract for a set period of time, say 10 years, and at the end of that time, you can continue for another set period of time, or re-negotiate, or be done with it with minimal legal hoops to jump through.
I think Marriage should be 'committed relationship', it's giving each other rights/protection, like people have said here, health care, I think maybe pensions, finances... I do see the UK push for 'civil partnerships' to be for couples, same or different gendered as a way to avoid the baggage of marriage It's formalising and giving each other rights that don't exist another way...
I also agree with divorce! People should try to work things out but no one should be stuck in bad marriages
College education. I always thought it would benefit everyone to get one. These days, the benefits don’t _always_ outweigh the debts and many people in trades make very good money.
I would recommend to learn a trade. Electrician, carpenter, plumber... are all much more useful than most managers.
I was brainwashed into the thought that going to college was not only important, but required. I am still in debt from it and have never used my degree.
What do you do and what was your degree in?
Load More Replies...Not trying to be rude or confrontational, but studies show that college graduates make over a million dollars more in their careers than non college grads...most of the time it is, even with loans.
Load More Replies...I reckon it depends on the person. Some people are better at hands on experience like you get with an apprenticeship, some are better at starting at the bottom doing an undesirable job and advancing that way. But some do need college/university etc. I am currently doing a TAFE course because I have been out of work for approx 17 years and have no skills (especially for my age). I will be a qualified phlebotomist upon completion. Fortunately it's only about $2200 for the course. So will pay that off within 6 months.
I'm not sure about this one. Sure, the debt can be high . There will always be some trade skills or that inventor/ software developer that makes more but on average, in guessing college grads make more once you remove the most extremes. Also, college forces students to learn a little bit about everything in the lower levels, so overall, more rounded students
As a graphic artist, college was just a waste. I was already working in jobs next to grads, making the same money. It was not going to make me more talented and I had on-the-job training. Before computers, I just told everyone I was a graduate. No one checked. It would be better to find out what people actually do instead of demanding useless grad papers.
it's also about networking, meeting people, and developing critical thinking skills.
Load More Replies...I'm a huge believer in trade schools... I had no college debts and make as much as someone with a degree does. It's not for everyone.
I can't wait for the U.S. government/corporate/university complex to be destroyed. I'm currently attending University of Phoenix, online, and the classes average 30 students. The school makes $45K per class every five weeks and I'm not even sure how many classes they have running during each five week period.
Or you can enrol in a foreign university which actually is well-recognised. For example, https://www.unisa.ac.za/sites/corporate/default/Register-to-study-through-Unisa/Undergraduate-&-honours-qualifications/Calculate-your-study-fees cost is about $1000 / annum, or $3000 total for 3 years.
Load More Replies...Imagine the world without trades. My grandson is in his 3rd week of being a plumbing apprentice. We're very proud of him.
Empathy. I used to always want to give people the benefit of the doubt if it meant they were learning or working on themselves, because I know I’d want the same. Turns out some people will take your kindness and run with it, and you need to cut yourself off from people that do or you’re going to find yourself mentally or emotionally drained. Can’t pour from an empty cup and all that.
And? Still better alone, than with people, who are just using you.
Load More Replies...Just because someone has a reason they’re an a hole doesn’t mean it’s ok that they’re an a hole. Took a long time for that one to sink in. I still have empathy but I also recognize that I don’t have to put up with their behavior.
I'm still working on this. My instinct is to give people the benefit of a doubt hand-over-fist. But, oddly enough, I actually learned pretty early on that even regular people take advantage of you if you do this. So, trust issues and internal dichotomy. My solution has always been to just avoid most people altogether, because I don't know how to interact with someone without some version of empathy and a huge mask. I'd love to be able to figure this one out.
It's really easy. Be friendly and kind, but never offer or give favours, until you know the person for a few years, and when you DO give a favour, make sure you spell out explicitly that it's a one-time deal, otherwise they come back for more. In particular, with money, when someone starts segueing into how they are desperate financially, sorry, but they will become a mosquito on you. You need to just say "sheesh me too I am in such financial trouble". Result, they will get the hint to not bother you.
Load More Replies...This is truth. I've had a few people I've helped and most have been both grateful for the aid and used it to fix their situation. But one or two actively feel like their entitled to help whenever their poor decisions get them into trouble, with one even going into long tirades about anyone who needs help should be left to suffer for their poor decisions. It's remarkably wierd to meet someone who has zero empathy for others but begs for it for themselves.
yep. I know at least two people for this. When I see them calling I answer like this: "Yes, this is Bob's secretarial services and bank. Would you like a slave for the day, or financial assistance?" They get taken aback and say... "er... Yes, I was going to ask..." then I say "Dude I have told you before, you only call when you want something. I love you. But call me when you aren't wanting a favour or money. Bye."
Load More Replies...I'm the same way! I keep a mental score card of the people around me and cut people off when they're too far in the red but some people get cut some slack though! It's not black and white
This is very true for me as well. I've lost empathy for people in a tangible way because it's either been abused or I've just seen too many shitty people. It's gone to the other extreme, though, at this point. I saw a man die the other day on the highway and I honestly didn't feel much about it. I felt like I should have at least been a little shocked. I told people and they were like, 'omg what a horrible thing to witness. Are you okay?' and I was like...yeah, why wouldn't I be? I just don't have empathy. I didn't feel bad for him. I honestly just didn't care. I feel like I've just gotten so cold over the years! I don't feel bad for anyone. I feel bad for animals more than I feel bad for people.
I feel the same way. I'm very careful about who I help these days.
Load More Replies...Well, that's why I always say: One time is a mistake, second time is a deliberate choice. So no third times for me anymore.
Of course, you can't always get a chance to judge someone's character before you help him/her/whatever. However, for minor things such as letting someone into traffic I don't care. Most people express gratitude when I let them turn, and those who don't never bother me.
yeah i think this is more about those people who "just" want to "get help moving/ need a place to crash / have lost their car to the bank / need money just for this one thing / want to tell you about this great new business opportunity to be your own boss" -- all those people you need to cut off.
Load More Replies...Alcohol as a vehicle fuel. First touted as a sustainable solution to transportation, now exposed as a greenhouse gas nightmare. Corn growing states embraced the idea, got it written into law and now we're kinda stuck with it.
Upvoted as I got taken in by this, seemed such a good solution at first too.
Ethanol suckered a lot of people. Ugh. The corn growing corporations make money. But it's just... pointless.
Because of the war, there will be a shortage of many foods in Europe and Africa, it would be very good if the lawmakers make stop the usage of bioethanol.
You need to explain your reasoning here. Unlike burning fossil fuels, the crops take up carbon as they grow and the same carbon is released when we burn the ethanol as fuel. In that sense it is renewable. However, I suspect you are getting at the process of turning crops into ethanol, which likely generates other greenhouse gasses, and the use of fertilizers on the crops etc.
Like it is the case with a lot of other stuff, it all depends on how you do it, and there is a right or a wrong way. Creating biofuel from spillproducts can be a good idea, and so can growing crops for fuel purposes on low yeild areas that cannot be used for much else, but using farmable areas for fuel instead of feeding the population is just to selfish, and the land area needed if we should fuel everything with biofuel would simple just be too extreme.
What about ethanol made from switchgrass? Or from corn stalks and leaves, and other agri-waste?
You still need to distill the alcohol to a usable percentage. It takes more energy to distill the alcohol than you can ever get from the end product.
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Marxism. When I was growing up it was the great evil from Satan that made you hate God and murder people. When I read it for myself, I discovered it was just a philosophical system and none of those things. In fact, it was about the only thing I'd encountered that explained why things are as they are.
I think it would be an interesting exercise to encourage people to do a little research on whatever is the opposite of what they believe and talk to people who have different views without judgement but just with the hope of understanding things a bit better. Edited to add: within reason
That's what reasonable people should do. Screaming that people are wrong anytime someone expresses an opinion you disagree with and calling them idiots/racists/snowflakes might be cathartic, but it doesn't resolve anything. You don't understand their reasoning, they don't understand yours, you don't have any idea if you have any common ground or even if you have the vaguest glimmer of a notion what they're actually trying to say. The media machine has doubled down on fueling this particular fire, and every public forum (this one very much included) is filled with irrationally angry people that just want their own ideas to be validated. Entitled, ignorant children all around, and it leaves reasonable people feeling utterly hopeless for anything to improve.
Load More Replies...A saying in german goes "Theorie=Marx, Praxis=Murks (sucks)" an I think that is true. If you projekt your Philosophie and/or political Ideas on a big group of people it never works
I've never understood the whole "the other side is evil" argument (both capitalist and communist/marxist governments use it) beyond the realm of we want to keep you from going over to their camp. The whole basis of communism is that everything belongs to everybody and as such everybody has whatever they need and everyone works towards the betterment of society/each other- there are no rich or poor. Sadly humans are weak and seek power over others and as such the theory of communism fails dismally when put into practice but in a similar way a capitalist systems fails where people are not fairly recompensed for their work because humans are weak and seek power over others
Multiple genders.
Initially thought it was just a bunch of confused kids taking a stand on something nonsensical out of over-stimulated boredom.
Now i realise its a drive for acceptance and inclusivity, and I'm all for that.
Still convinced that surgery should only be an option at 18 though :)
It should also be taught that on top of genders there are diseases and genetic mutations that can alter your sex or make you born with none or both. I prefer speaking about humans, and humans are complicated. But still a biological being…evolution hasn’t stopped, so why should we stop evolving our views and beliefs?
There are articles all over the place regarding this. My fav is the one about the gay alligators, ducks and penguins.
Load More Replies...People think multiple genders are a recent thing and a fad, yet many cultures, all over the world over thousands of years have been aware of this. Our ignorance juts harks back to when science was just middle aged white men who just assumed there were only two sexes, with corresponding genders. There isn't any scientific evidence to support this worldview, quite the opposite in fact.
Very true. There are several cultures & peoples over the millenia that identify (or have identified) multiple genders. Somoa, area now called Uganda, one of the groups taken over by the Aztecs, Indonesia, Pakistan, some of the Native American tribes, ancient Italy. Hell, there are several mainstream religions that recognize multiple genders in their deities.
Load More Replies...I will admit I really struggle with all these different genders, especially when it comes to non binary/gender fluid. In saying that, just because I don't understand it, doesn't mean I think people who identify as any of them should be treated with hate/disrespect. Their identity doesn't affect me, so you do you.
Yeah, you don't have to understand something to respect it. Color blind people work with traffic lights, after all.
Load More Replies...I saw this video about how gender is formed. It is really complicated, and goes something along the line of: This chemical makes that chemical, that inhibits a third chemical from stopping this process from going on in case that forth chemical is not pressent, so... it is really a messy constructions, with many options of things going "wrong". In fact, that it goes right in most cases, is kind of miracle, since there is nearly and endless number of ways that it could produce something else. So the conclusion must be that gender is kind of a mess, and nature can therefore produce all kinds of "inbetweens" and e.g. put a feminine mind in a male body (trans) or make people with a male personality being attracted to the wrong gender (regarding reproduction) (gays) etc. So we just have to make the best of the situation, and I do not think that trying to fit all people into one of just two boxes will do that, though it may seem compellingly simple for the majority for whom the boxes fit well.
I disagre and agree with the last statement at once: I agree on the fact that surgery is a one way street that you can never take back, and doing it too early may cause regret. But I disagree because during teenage years you develope in your biological gender, with all the hormones, the hair, the specific traits that come along with it. And if you don't feel like a woman (for example) it's psichologically devastating to see yourself grow breasts, or people commentig (in good faith) "what a wonderfull young lady" you're becoming. I have no answer to what is right per se, so I guess everybody should do what they feel is best.
Surgery is the nuclear option, and I don't know enough to even approach that subject. The topic of whether or not to administer hormone therapy, however, is a tricky topic. On one hand, young people are still learning who they are and may not have the emotional maturity or understanding of themselves to make that decision. They say brains aren't even fully developed until 25. On the other hand, hormone therapy is much more effective at having a desirable outcome if it's started at a young age. Catch-22.
Gender reassignment surgery is about the biggest decision you can make. While we, older people, might want to protect young people by telling them they should wait, it is still their body and their choice. Best to give advice, then support them in their decision, even if you disagree with it.
I do disagree with the surgery only at 18. My back is permanently messed up from slouching trying to hide my boobs.
Anime.
I always thought it was stupid, cringey, only for weirdo's. Until I found out that my best friend(we didn't know each other for that long when I found this out) basically only watches anime. Like, he's no weeb(no hate, you guys are just really intense about your anime) or anything, but he loves it. So I obviously saw some snippets of him watching Attack on Titan and I thought that it doesn't look too bad. So he said we should start watching the dubbed version together. Needless to say, I have seen/finished about 10 to 20 different anime since he introduced me to AoT last year and I am hooked. Planning on starting to read some manga soon.
Anime never got the stigma of "just being for kids" like western cartoons have, which is why the industry can offer something for everybody.
anime bring me so much joy these days. So much are into it. so many japanese anime makes my cry my eyes out, feeling i never get from movies. to this days the movie A silent voice is my favorite movie of all time. japanese anime drama are so good. my house are filled with anime poster. i watch the usual, like naruto, bleach, attack on titan, death note... the but Drama and Romance are so freaking good. i just finished watching Higehiro and god that was good. it the story of a guy who took in his appartment a teenage girl who run away from home and survive by sleeping around. but that guy is the only one who don't want to sleep with her and she don't understand why! they are so many... still remember when i saw the serie Anohana. i cry so much at the end that my girl keep coming to give me hug. at the end of the serie i was soak in sweat. Your lie in april story of a genious pianist who can't play anymore since his mother passed aways... the list goes on and on and on...
Always fascinating that Anime gets lumped in the same way Cartoons do as a singular genre for a lot of people. Watch Family Guy, Spongebob, and Young Justice all back to back and then tell me that "cartoon" is a genre. Anime is the same, it's a style not a genre. Sure there are cringey ones out there (personally I can't stand harem anime),but you stack AoT, Cells At Work, Psycho Pass, Darwin's Game and hetalia Axis Powers against each other and you end up with a similar scenario as above.
It is just another storytelling medium. The US has Hollywood and the real action movies they produce, Japan has anime. There are anime and manga for all ages, and all audiences. Sort of like the way 3D animation took over in the recent years, and even though the movies are primarily for kids, adults can enjoy them too, same goes for anime.
anime helped me out of a small pit of sadness. still grateful to all of my weeb friends for introducing me! :)
Disc Golf. All the guys I grew up with that played were huge douchebags. Years later a neighbor dragged me out on a nice day and I’ve been playing ever since. 10+ years.
I got into it in the mid 90s and have been playing ever since. It's fun, you're outdoors, and you're getting exercise.
I used to play a little, but some of the other players turned me off of it. They were just taking it way too seriously.
Algebra. It's Like a cool puzzle that makes you feel smart.
Basic algebra is still very useful, but some of the more complicated stuff I learnt at school, I have literally never found a use for! Mind you, I can still remember x = -b +/- the root of b^2 - 4ac all over 2a after 30 years!
I work in Finance and lament that I haven't pay more attention in my Algebra class. I believe everything we learnt at school has a use in real world, but might be in specific situations. I mean, Statistics was (and still is) boring af, but it will be useful if I've mastered it in my line of work.
Load More Replies...I remember when learning this at secondary school, it would take ages to understand but then something would just click, like ohhh that’s how you do it! I really enjoyed it once I understood it and maths was never my strong point. However, I’d just get the hang of it and we’d move onto a new topic so I had to relearn it all over again when we came back to it 😐
Immigration from other cultures. I thought, and still think, that any human should be able to live wherever they want. However, some cultures, when in big numbers, end up forming ghettos in our cities and making them unsafe. i.e: Madrid, Lavapiés, a district in the middle of the city was historically a middle-lower class neighbourhood, but because of massive immigration there are drug raids every day and it's not as safe to walk there at night. Still safe though, Madrid is a very safe city, just not as much as it used to be.
I admit I don't know the details, but I'd wager to guess that poverty due to unsupported population growth and lack of access to good jobs is the more likely culprit, not the ethnic makeup of an immigrant group.
You put it more kindly than I would. It's not their ethnicity. It's that they're not welcome, know it, and are shown it, so.... yeah.
Load More Replies...You still have a lot to learn. The term "ghetto" is Italian, and stems from Italy restricting the places Jews could live to certain neighborhoods. People don't live in a ghetto by choice. Society forces them there, and they lack the resources to leave.
Thought the same about refugees from certain parts of the world, helping people in need is never wrong - but with all the horrible stuff that happend the last years, especially with "groups of young men", it shows that there has to be a line that when crossed needs to lead to consequences. (Overthinking policies and laws - not any inhumane stuff). And no, I don't say that everybody from those regions do bad things, but there is a high enough number of crimes involving them to overthink the situation.
This is because the governments dumped them all into the same neighbourhoods, creating a separation/divide between them and the public. It prevents integration (whether it was intentional or not). That area now looks like it's 'full of foreigners' giving people (who are usually ignorant of the facts) the idea that its being 'taken over'. It's one of the reasons that older generations of the Irish and West Indians get on so well in the UK, because we came at the same time and were dumped into neighbouring areas, we found common ground in our exclusion.
People from other countries will band together when finding themselves somewhere else, it's human nature. It's the best way to protect yourself from xenophobia and racism. What you can't protect yourself from is the kind of prejudice that will keep you in poverty. This poverty will ensure that your group has higher rates of health issues, crime etc. In short it's a self fulfilling prophecy..
Saying the pledge of allegiance every day in school. We all grew up thinking it was normal. Until we had twitter and TikTok and could hear from people in other countries. This is not normal! No one else does this?!? except for militaristic, dictatorship style countries. It's an intentional method of training younger generations to do whatever their government asks because "patriotism" and "national pride". It's creepy and it's weird. And no country should ever get your blind allegiance.
Same with the national anthem at sports games it's done so often that it's not special anymore and somehow it became super political.
Load More Replies...Yup people need to have their own epiphanies. More often than not, no matter how logical and convincing your points are, most will simply brush them off as a "difference of opinion". Until that lightbulb moment.
And here we are at today's blocked-for-Android post. Always good to have Bored Panda remind us all how much they dislike visitors who use Android.
I have android, what is blocked? I read the whole article and I can see comments. Only thing 'blocked' are comments that are hidden due to many downvotes.
Load More Replies...I noted with interest that the majority of these are not about someone having researched a topic, but rather having encountered it in their own lives. It's hard to change your mind, especially hard to lose a prejudice, without personal influence of somebody close to the topic / belonging to the group.
When my son was just six weeks old, I went into his room to check on him before going to bed myself. He wasn't breathing, so I started screaming for my husband, and at the same time, picked up Son and tilted him head to toe, over and over, until he started breathing again. Husband wanted to shake him, but I knew not to do that, and the tilting worked safely and well. Scared the tar out of me that my newborn baby was so close to death. Husband didn't want him sleeping in our tiny bedroom (1976, tiny trailer house), so I slept in Baby's room for a few months until I "got it" that it was a one-off incident. He didn't suffer any kind of damage, thankfully, although he was killed in an accident just days before Thanksgiving when he was 31 (16 years ago). Still, I saved his life that night, and got to have him for nearly 32 years, so I would've done it again, knowing I wasn't 'shaking' him, just tilting him to get him breathing again.
GMOs. As a teenager I really hated GMOs, after starting to study food sciences in college I actually got educated on the different methods and reasons. Changed my stance a lot. There's still some modifications I find unnessecary or bad, but I'm far from thinking all are bad.
Can I just say that we as people have too much judgement and not enough emphathy? We look at things from the outside and just because we can't understand it, we judge it as wrong instead of not FOR me. Hindsight is 20/20 but recognizing that there are things beyond you and your understanding would greatly reduce the hate and anger people project over an opinion that can change by experiencing it. So, instead, we could just have a little bit of selflessness (or a whole lotta "mind your own business") and say "to each their own".
To this I would add Marvin Heemeyer, the "killdozer" guy. often portrayed as some sort of underdog antihero who got back at The Man without killing anybody, he was actually a bitter whackadoodle who had every intention of killing his perceived enemies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer
Saying the pledge of allegiance every day in school. We all grew up thinking it was normal. Until we had twitter and TikTok and could hear from people in other countries. This is not normal! No one else does this?!? except for militaristic, dictatorship style countries. It's an intentional method of training younger generations to do whatever their government asks because "patriotism" and "national pride". It's creepy and it's weird. And no country should ever get your blind allegiance.
Same with the national anthem at sports games it's done so often that it's not special anymore and somehow it became super political.
Load More Replies...Yup people need to have their own epiphanies. More often than not, no matter how logical and convincing your points are, most will simply brush them off as a "difference of opinion". Until that lightbulb moment.
And here we are at today's blocked-for-Android post. Always good to have Bored Panda remind us all how much they dislike visitors who use Android.
I have android, what is blocked? I read the whole article and I can see comments. Only thing 'blocked' are comments that are hidden due to many downvotes.
Load More Replies...I noted with interest that the majority of these are not about someone having researched a topic, but rather having encountered it in their own lives. It's hard to change your mind, especially hard to lose a prejudice, without personal influence of somebody close to the topic / belonging to the group.
When my son was just six weeks old, I went into his room to check on him before going to bed myself. He wasn't breathing, so I started screaming for my husband, and at the same time, picked up Son and tilted him head to toe, over and over, until he started breathing again. Husband wanted to shake him, but I knew not to do that, and the tilting worked safely and well. Scared the tar out of me that my newborn baby was so close to death. Husband didn't want him sleeping in our tiny bedroom (1976, tiny trailer house), so I slept in Baby's room for a few months until I "got it" that it was a one-off incident. He didn't suffer any kind of damage, thankfully, although he was killed in an accident just days before Thanksgiving when he was 31 (16 years ago). Still, I saved his life that night, and got to have him for nearly 32 years, so I would've done it again, knowing I wasn't 'shaking' him, just tilting him to get him breathing again.
GMOs. As a teenager I really hated GMOs, after starting to study food sciences in college I actually got educated on the different methods and reasons. Changed my stance a lot. There's still some modifications I find unnessecary or bad, but I'm far from thinking all are bad.
Can I just say that we as people have too much judgement and not enough emphathy? We look at things from the outside and just because we can't understand it, we judge it as wrong instead of not FOR me. Hindsight is 20/20 but recognizing that there are things beyond you and your understanding would greatly reduce the hate and anger people project over an opinion that can change by experiencing it. So, instead, we could just have a little bit of selflessness (or a whole lotta "mind your own business") and say "to each their own".
To this I would add Marvin Heemeyer, the "killdozer" guy. often portrayed as some sort of underdog antihero who got back at The Man without killing anybody, he was actually a bitter whackadoodle who had every intention of killing his perceived enemies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer
