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Parenting is one of life’s biggest and most enjoyable challenges. Helping your children grow into incredibly capable, morally upstanding, and passionate dreamers is every parent’s wish. However… we sometimes lose faith in the future of the human race when we see how some parents are acting online. The sad fact is, just because someone is a parent doesn’t mean that they’re a good one (even if they love their kids as much as anyone else).

There’s an online group on Reddit with 245k members called '[Stuff] Mom Groups Say' that’s been active since 2018. It's dedicated to shaming bad moms and all of their mom group drama. From anti-vaxx showdowns to debates about essential oils, the subreddit believes that these parents deserve to be called out for their behavior that, frankly, causes more harm than good.

Scroll down to lose a chunk of your faith in humanity, upvote the best of the worst pics, and do let us know what you think about these anti-parents, dear Pandas. Bored Panda spoke about the drama and misinformation that sometimes can be found in social media mom groups with the moderators of the '[Stuff] Mom Groups Say' subreddit, as well as with Samantha Scroggin, the founder of the 'Walking Outside in Slippers' parenting blog. Check out what they had to say below to pick up some great advice.

#1

This Mom On Why She Is Refusing The Big C19 Vaccine

This Mom On Why She Is Refusing The Big C19 Vaccine

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Jonathan
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This needs to stop. There are a lot of Muslims in my country that refuse to get the vaccine because people are saying there is pork in it!!

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    #2

    Why Do They All Have To Hate Science Though?

    Why Do They All Have To Hate Science Though?

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    chi-wei shen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the credo of virtually every anti-vaxxer.

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    #3

    Why Are Karen’s So Against Thermometers? Don’t Consent! Bonus Snark At The End

    Why Are Karen’s So Against Thermometers? Don’t Consent! Bonus Snark At The End

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    Julie C Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And yet I bet if their government talked about banning ACTUAL assault weapons due to someone ACTUALLY shooting children, she’d screech about “communism”.

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    "In my experience with online parenting communities, it's best to abide by the rules posted in these groups. Usually, that means no selling anything and no foul language, at a minimum. I generally try to be patient with people and open to different viewpoints, but it's aggravating when people are acting ignorant or spreading misinformation. In those cases, I try to give evidence of the facts without personal attacks," parenting blogger Samantha said.

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    Samantha used to be a professional journalist and is now a public information officer which means that she's very wary of fake facts. "Parents will make all kinds of claims in parenting groups online, including that vaccines are harmful. They'll recommend all sorts of remedies. But it's up to us to seek out reputable sources of information to help us make our own decisions on what's best for our kids," she warned that we have to do proper research instead of believing every bit of advice that we find online.

    "I think we should reserve judgment of others' parenting styles when the actions taken are harmful to the child. And I realize what is harmful is open to interpretation. But if no one is being abused, let's have some grace for one another and the choices we make. Each child is different, and parents often know what works best for their child. Parenting is hard, and we can use as much support as we can get," she added.

    #4

    I Asked About Learning Activities For My Toddler

    I Asked About Learning Activities For My Toddler

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    Mohsie Supposie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "kindergarten as it is now" ... I don't know what kind of kindergarten you have, but the ones that I know of involve a lot of play time and fun activities, including learning social skills. Of course kindergarten teachers are well aware of kids' short attention spans, so they would plan the activities and learning accordingly.

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    #5

    Saw This And Just Knew It Belonged Here

    Saw This And Just Knew It Belonged Here

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    Sleazy Weaver
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Animal abuse & child abuse all in one.

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    #6

    The Mom Group I'm In Is A Goldmine For Crazy. I Posted About My 2 Year Old Asking For Privacy In The Bathroom And This Was A Comment I Got

    The Mom Group I'm In Is A Goldmine For Crazy. I Posted About My 2 Year Old Asking For Privacy In The Bathroom And This Was A Comment I Got

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    Meanwhile, a lot of the subreddit's moderators pitched in to answer Bored Panda's questions. The mods explained that mom groups can sometimes be full of potentially dangerous misinformation, a desire to make money off more naive parents, and perpetuating "toxic rhetoric with zero consequences." The community also calls out those online groups that fanatically believe they're raising their kids "The Right Way" and anyone not doing so is a bad parent.

    "The biggest lies are the coordinated lies spread in these groups on new parents at a vulnerable point of their lives. These women don’t need essential oils, or colloidal silver, they need paid family leave, affordable post-Partum care, health equities," one moderator explained. "New parents can be as dramatic as they want to be, they’re sleep-deprived and scared and have bills piling up and a new baby. Parental groups are allowed to be dramatic, they reflect the rawest human nature at one of the most 'precious' and yet frighteningly lonesome, most physically and mentally demanding, moments of our lives."

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    #7

    Is Covid19 Real? Asked And Answered In A Local Mom Group

    Is Covid19 Real? Asked And Answered In A Local Mom Group

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    Roland Gosselin
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I will immediately ignore you if I don't agree with your views/facts/science"

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    #8

    Gay Satanic Clowns

    Gay Satanic Clowns

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    JuJu
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    May the Gay Satanic Clowns save us all from overzealous Bible-thumpers

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    #9

    It’s Gross Karen. I’m Also Pretty Certain It’s Illegal To Feed Unsuspecting People Your Bodily Fluids

    It’s Gross Karen. I’m Also Pretty Certain It’s Illegal To Feed Unsuspecting People Your Bodily Fluids

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    Ellen Ranks
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't know which one is worse, the original post or the reply.

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    The moderator continued: "So when people enter their lives promising a listening ear, a magical solution, and then shame them for breastfeeding or not breastfeeding, for co-sleeping, or sleep training, or not using magical amber teething beads, or for choosing vaccinations, then those are the heinous people that need to be shamed. They are actively manipulating people with a phony agenda and they need to be called out.”

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    Another moderator told Bored Pand that what inspired them to start the subreddit in the first place was the overall culture in mom groups that pushed their personal parenting philosophies as the one and only way to parent.

    "These groups (like Cherry Universal, with specific subgroups for the crunchy moms and the sanctimonious moms) focus on preaching their way of parenting and viciously attack anyone who doesn’t fall in line. They’re a bigger problem for society too. Do you want to know where the anti-masking movement started? Look at posts from March-May of 2020 in crunchy mom groups. They push and perpetuate vaccine misinformation and an overall general mistrust of science and they use shame, groupthink, and banning to enforce their beliefs."

    #10

    Found On A Baby Sleep Help Website. Says

    Found On A Baby Sleep Help Website. Says

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    #11

    Maybe Because That’s Illegal

    Maybe Because That’s Illegal

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    Foxxy (The Original)
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don’t do it. Simple as that. Also apologise and learn from your mistakes. Breastmilk is a bodily fluid. What if I ran out of water, should I piss in the brownies instead.

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    *stares In Cps*

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    However, the mod pointed out that far from every single mom group is bad. "Our birth month group, for example, has been the saving grace of my journey into parenthood. I have a cohort of parents who all have a child at the same age as mine. It’s a great way to get a quick pulse on typical development and also just feel generally supported, validated, challenged to be a better parent or find different and better ways to parent in a shame-free environment. I have a virtual village and that is just really incredible."

    They continued: "To be really honest, it was how supportive I found my birth month group to be that sent me out in search of additional groups. My infant won’t eat baby food—oh, maybe I should check out this baby-led weaning group for ideas! (It was great, by the way.) But then when we started stumbling onto other groups that were just cesspools of negativity, abuse, bullying, etc, we learned about the subculture of 'mommy drama groups' and decided to bring it out into the public eye."

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    #13

    Guilt Tripping Your 3 Yo Child Into Nursing Is Gross

    Guilt Tripping Your 3 Yo Child Into Nursing Is Gross

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    troufaki13
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so wrong on so many levels...

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    #14

    From A Mom Group On Instagram. I Guess People Without Children Are Not Allowed To Be Tired

    From A Mom Group On Instagram. I Guess People Without Children Are Not Allowed To Be Tired

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    Ozacoter
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate people like that. I am chronically ill. I am so weak that last monday I slowly walked 30min and the muscle pain lasted until yesterday , sunday. Tell me how I am not tired because I dont have kids.

    Laura Craig
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hear you. I have a blood issue right now (hopefully fixable) which means I'm deficiant in EVERYTHING. I swear my blood is just water at this point. Walking up the stairs literally wipes me out to the point that I have to lay down. So sorry to hear you are suffering. Sending you good mojo!

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    troufaki13
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Apparently it's a privilege that comes with parenthood :/

    Jill Pulcifer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is nothing more miserable than competitive misery.

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    Some Cool Guy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm tired. Tired of your s**t lady

    Jayne Kyra
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are tired of listening to you whine about your kids, then turn around and tell us we will change our mind. Also, childLESS = wants, cannot have kids. ChildFREE = does not want kids.

    June
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's still allowed to be tired without health issues or children...

    Jonathan
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because those without kids have plain sailing, stress-free life right?

    Vorknkx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aaaaah, so that's why I am able to climb mountains (while carrying a fridge in each hand) without feeling anything - it's because I'm childless! The more you know...

    Evelína Zlá
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah we childless people... we don´t need to sleep you know.

    Zedrapazia
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Indeed, we are like vampire bats being awake all night :p

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    Dre Mosley
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So annoying. There are other things besides kids that can exhaust you. Parents don't have a monopoly on being tired.

    Mewton’s Third Paw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shut your jealous ass up and finish your mom waddle.

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I care for strangers, my elderly mother, a feral cat colony, oh and yeah, my husband, and have a leg that doesn't always work properly ------ tell me again that I'm not allowed to be tired b/c I have no children. Please. I could use a good hysterical laugh.

    MandaPanda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When a person without kids tells me their tired . . . I nod in agreement because we all have different struggles and we call all be exhausted by them. My struggles won't stay in their bed at night and kick me in the back while someone else's struggles might be staying awake typing on the computer trying to finish before their deadline.

    Just saying
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tiredness isn't a competition - let's treat each other with sympathy.

    Holly Allen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are all fighting a battle of our own. Let's encourage each other to keep on fighting instead of comparing how bad we have it

    CrEaTiVe_duck
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wow this is pathetic behavior! so if you dont have kids you should not be allowed the ability to be tired right?

    StrawberryParfait
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When being a mom is the only personality trait you have, you cling hard.

    Mimi777
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve been extremely tired before having a kid and I’ve been extremely tired after having a kid.. why do some parents act like this. It’s not a competition.

    Messy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have such a problem with this. you had kids you knew what you were signing up for. Don’t hate on child free people. I’ve seen This so much! Like moms who will talk about someone else their age Bc they don’t have kids. And will literally degrade them Bc they are hating. Like get over yourself. You spreaded your legs you, take care of your kids and shut your mouth.

    Niall Mac Iomera
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't have any children. But I am a teacher. I deal with hundreds of kid every day, you just have a few. Checkmate.

    somnomania
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it should be legal to slap people like this. i have several chronic issues including pain, and can sleep 22 hours and still be exhausted mentally.

    Rissy cake
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a person who deals with thyroid issue. I feel offended

    Aliquid A
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok, to be honest, when I first had kids I said to myself "holy crap, I used to think I knew what 'tired' meant... this is a whole new level of tired". I can appreciate that others would have a similar experience, and think that "since I didn't 'know what tired means' before having kids, then NOBODY knows 'what tired means' until they experience taking care of a baby"... which to be honest is probably true most of the time. BUT, you don't know another person's life experience, maybe they have a non-child related reason to experience extreme fatigue. Maybe even worse that your situation. Be careful with the "woe is me" routine, there is always someone else worse off, and you might just happen to be talking to them.

    I want cake
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was recently diagnosed with ADHD, and for nearly two years before that I had a physically demanding job that was heavy on skills that I am not equipped for considering my adhd. I thought that I would get over the anxiety as I learned more and mastered the skills I needed, but of course that didn't happen, it only got worse because the expectations of my work performance kept rising and I wasn't improving so I got to a point where my anxiety was so bad, I was genuinely shaking all day (10-12 hour shifts with a lot of heavy lifting). I was so exhausted that I couldn't do anything on my time off, I spent my evenings and weekends staring at the wall lying on the sofa because I was just so drained. I'd never have taken this job if I knew I had ADHD. Anyone who tells me I don't know what tiredness is because I don't have children can go sit on a cactus.

    Keri Rosenkilde Christiansen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1. No one made you have these children. 2. There are a lot of people that will never be able to have children. 3. There are people that are unable to have children because they are too weak/physically tired, or in pain to take care of them because of diseases or disabilities (not to mention people that have lost their children.) Please realize how fortunate you are to be able to be tired from a day with your kids.

    Waffles
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i dont think this one is that bad. with zero context as to how this lady generally acts, i think it's kinda funny

    Sofie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can never know exactly how tired or how much pain someone is in. Personally I learned that being sick while having to look after someone else is not something I wish upon anyone. For me that is one of the hardest things about being a parent, it can be merciless.

    Noel Botz
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cant help but to think people that think like that must not have had a career, social life, love life, etc. before having kids. Kinda sad that they missed out on LIFE!!

    Jem24
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Insomnia. Can't sleep, I am exhausted

    blue
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister has 3 children. When they were young ( before any siblings had their own kids) she would constantly remind us "I have 3 kids ya know. I have 3 kids" One day my brother piped up and said" So what. We did'nt ask you to have them"

    angelica H
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    does she make this face when her kids tell her they don't want to go to school because they're tired?

    Celtic Pirate Queen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, try having a chronic illness, you ignorant bitch. I have days where I'm lucky if I can crawl to the bathroom before I wet the bed.

    Lynn Morello
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    can I use my 6 28 + year old children as an excuse for being tired? NO I can't. There are many other reasons why people feel tired, Chronic illnesses are one reason, Stress and life events and many others contribute. Just Having-Kids, doesn't always have anything to do with being tired.

    PAN-da (hehe get it)
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    im pretty young, in my early teens, and im always exhausted. i hate when people ask me how i am or how im feeling because if i tell the truth and say im tired they're just going to tell me how i'm too young to be tired. like i'm sorry but a bad sleep schedule can affect anyone? i have to take medication because i can't sleep at night and also have depression, which makes my mood garbage and tired? and i'm too young????

    Ozacoter
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nobody is too young to be ill. People say that as an excuse to not feel sympathy for you. Jerks.

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    BabaBizzle
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe if she lost all that extra WEIGHT she would atop using parenting as the excuse for being tired (lazy) and STFU about non parents saying they’re tired. She’s fat lazy and ugly.

    dragon fruit
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    hell just cuz you don't got kids don't mean you isn't tired

    CAILIN FRITSCH
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm tired all the time, I'm NOT a mom, not even old enough, and I am always very tired because of a disease I have, and it makes me mad and sad to read this

    Rakjell Hanwell
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When a mum with one child tells me, a childless daycare worker, who has to take care of about 25-30 children each day, that she is tired... (I know that even one child can be a lot. But I hate it when people have a child and the only thing they ever do is to complain about how bad they have it compared to childless people)

    Jen Cook
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You made a choice to have a child, that's not the fault or a diminishing factor for those who choose birth control. This is right up there with people who want you to adjust your work schedule to their children. My career and schedule is not subject to your life choices.

    Destiny Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So I guess I shouldn't be tired, even though I have narcolepsy?

    deanna woods
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't have children, but guess what, I STILL GET TIRED!!

    InfectedVoice
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your choice to have a dam kid, not my problem and you don't get any special privileges because you have children.

    Chloe Drury
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    for real! like why is it so bad to not have children? If literally anyone in public says they dont want kids everyone will try to change thier mind but as soon as they mention pain and tiredness its like "try having kids" like bruh???

    WholesomeArmyweeb
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Somnophobes like me: yeah. Totally not actually tired or anything

    Thalia Lovering
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a friend who doesn't work, her kids are at school from early morning till early evening, and she has a cleaning lady. She can't understand "what I am doing all day since I don't have kids".

    Lexi Mitchell
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Boy I do not have sympathy for the people (well, usually it’s women) who say stuff like that but then have like six children. You CHOSE to have that many children, don’t kvetch at me about being tired if you’re going to tell me off for being tired.

    You are Beautiful (He, Him)
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *runs a marathon* YOU'RE NOT F*****G TIRED YOU CHILDLESS MAN

    VANILLA
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isnt true... ._. Im middle school, have insomnia, anxiety, depression, Adhd, Ocd... the list could go on forever.. but point is, anyone can be tired

    Suzy the observer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sanctimonious bitch who cannot manage her time and priorities so belittles everyone to raise her weak self.

    Kimberley McMillan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I make that face when parents tell me how they haven't been on a date or vacation alone in years. Must be so hard, I say, as I make plans for a single vacation once COVID is under control and not have to worry about teaching at home or all the bills that come from having kids.

    Myrtle Yoma
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If that lady hasn’t adapted to the lack of sleep yet, she needs to get her s**t together. Ive been sleep deprived since I was 8. After I had kids, the first 6 months were awful because I had my abdomen cut open and an and almost 9lb child removed, plus an organ (the placenta). After that... bootstrap that s**t, you have no choice but to get used to it. And comparing levels of “tired” isn’t fair. Parenting is exhausting, but so is a night of drinking, or a 40 hour work week, or like others said, autoimmune disorders or other physical ailments than never go away... much like children

    Micheal With A B
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had crippling insomnia and anxiety that physically kept me from not sleeping for 2 years. 2 YEARS I didn't sleep a full night. Usually just 30 minutes to an hour. Stop being so freaking stuck up

    Valerie Smart
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You chose to have kids so if you are tired all the time that’s on you . Don’t hate on ones who chose to not have kids. They too have a life and they get tired too. It’s not a battle here.

    Raptor
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate it too, I work two jobs, and care for my parents, sister and dog. My sister has ADHD and my mother is disabled. And I understand how Ozacoter feels,too.

    Marianne
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Welcome to Instagram where we are gatekeeping tiredness!

    Bole Perishon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I, also, feel tired when I'm bored out of my mind.

    Lisa Tetlow
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just my opinion, but if raising your kids is exhausting you, you're doing it wrong. Sure it's a lot of work, but if you do it right things go pretty smoothly. PS -- I raised 2 boys.

    Christine Zanfino
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're tired now? Just wait until you have two sick elderly parents and a sick spouse who you care for while dealing with your own health issues--damn right you're tired.

    Roxy Eastland
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    4 years ago

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    Parents remember before they had children thinking they were unbelievably tired, then have children and realise *this* is unbelievably tired.

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    #15

    This Seems Like A Healthy Relationship

    This Seems Like A Healthy Relationship

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    We’ve written extensively about how to be a great parent and how to help your kids become independent. And, considering that there still are (and always will be) plenty of parents out there who either stifle their kids or who constantly exhaust themselves, the advice bodes repeating.

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    Anita Cleare, a parenting expert and the author of ‘The Work/Parent Switch,’ explained to Bored Panda in a previous interview all about how to overcome the desire to be a ‘perfect’ parent and how to stay positive when we’re all way, way too exhausted.

    According to parenting expert Cleare, aiming to be a ‘perfect’ parent is the wrong way to go about things. This does more harm than good because it puts lots of unreachable expectations and undue pressure on both parents and children alike.

    #16

    That’s Not How Any Of This Works

    That’s Not How Any Of This Works

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    Deborah B
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If WaTeR WorkED, YoU WouLdN'T NeEd To kEeP DRinKiNg It....

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    #17

    Given To My Daughter Through A Mom Group

    Given To My Daughter Through A Mom Group

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    El Dee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was brought up religious and made to read the bible. Whether you believe the bible or not it certainly DOESN'T say that dinosaurs were made on the sixth day. Even for Christians this is BS

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    #18

    My Child's Future Means Nothing To Me

    My Child's Future Means Nothing To Me

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    giovanna
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So this is the next level: the no-certificaters. There is a lobby pressuring for you to have a birth certificate BUT I WANT TO LIVE IN FREEDOM THEY WON'T HAVE ME

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    “Trying to be a perfect parent is bad for children and bad for parents because it sets everybody up to fail. Research shows that ‘good enough’ parenting is best for children,” Cleare explained.

    Instead, the expert suggests that all parents aim for ‘good enough’ parenting that actually helps improve our kids’ independence instead of them being overly-reliant on us.

    In Cleare’s words, this involves “getting it right most of the time but also failing your children in ways they can handle—so that they gradually increase their independence.”

    #19

    Vaccinations Made My Daughter Gay

    Vaccinations Made My Daughter Gay

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    giovanna
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "If only my daughter had polio instead of gayness"

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    #20

    Do Babies Give Hickies?

    Do Babies Give Hickies?

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    Joanna Payen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my daughter was only a few weeks old I bent down to give her a kiss and she latched onto my chin. She had such a powerful suck that I had to break the suction by inserting my little finger in between my chin and her mouth. I had a red mark on my chin for quite a few weeks. So, yes my little human vacuum cleaner gave me a hickie.

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    #21

    This Extreme Fear-Mongering Pisses Me Off So Much

    This Extreme Fear-Mongering Pisses Me Off So Much

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    Natalia
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nooooo. Stupidity is not contagious, why should the flu shot be?😳

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    According to parenting expert Cleare, “Great parents make mistakes but they try to learn from them (and not to repeat them too often!).”

    No matter your parenting style, you can’t do much if you’re overworked and exhausted. That means that looking after yourself is priority number one. If you put yourself last, you’re not doing your kids any favors, Cleare told Bored Panda.

    #22

    F Your Privacy. I’m Gonna Show 53,000 People Your Picture And Tell Them You Got Your Period Today!

    F Your Privacy. I’m Gonna Show 53,000 People Your Picture And Tell Them You Got Your Period Today!

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    #23

    From An Unschooling Facebook Page. Poor Kid

    From An Unschooling Facebook Page. Poor Kid

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    #24

    I Literally Don't Even Know What To Say

    I Literally Don't Even Know What To Say

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    “Even when you are really busy, try to find regular 5-20 minute breaks in your day when you can relax, practice some mindfulness, or do something joyful,” she said.

    “Looking for the positives really does increase positivity,” the parenting expert added, suggesting that we try to maintain positive mindsets by being grateful and thinking about, for example, the 3 things that we’re glad to have in our lives.

    #25

    Uhhhh Would This Be A Major Red Flag To Anyone Else?

    Uhhhh Would This Be A Major Red Flag To Anyone Else?

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    Ozacoter
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. Lazy excuse to be a lousy parent.

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    #26

    They're Not Vaxxing Their Dogs Either

    They're Not Vaxxing Their Dogs Either

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    Evelína Zlá
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please... take the poor doggo from her...

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    #27

    My Kid's Dentist Told Me Skipping Antibiotics Will Be Really Painful For Her, So I'd Like To Go Ahead And Do That

    My Kid's Dentist Told Me Skipping Antibiotics Will Be Really Painful For Her, So I'd Like To Go Ahead And Do That

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    Foxxy (The Original)
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually have never heard of someone taking antibiotics BEFORE tooth extraction. Is this really a thing coz I have had 4 teeth extracted and not once did I need to do that. Afterwards yes, but not before.

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    Meanwhile, Lenore Skenazy, the president of the Let Grow nonprofit that aims to promote kids’ independence and fights overprotection, explained to us that children’s confidence grows when they know that others believe in them.

    “A teacher, coach, grandparent, or, of course, parent who thinks you are terrific and ready to wow the world can make all the difference in the world,” Skenazy said, pointing out that when the support’s not there, it can have negative consequences on the child. So it’s important to balance support while also letting kids develop their independence.

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    According to Skenazy, how a parent tells their kids something is often more important than what they tell them to do. Kids take cues from grownups, so even phrasing something differently or using a different tone can have positive effects even if the topic that’s being talked about is far from pleasant.

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    #28

    Thats More Than 3 Pagents A Month If They Start When She Was Born! Of Course The Poor Thing Doesn't Want To Out Her Sippy Cup Down Shes A Baby!

    Thats More Than 3 Pagents A Month If They Start When She Was Born! Of Course The Poor Thing Doesn't Want To Out Her Sippy Cup Down Shes A Baby!

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    River Webb
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    child pageants should be illegal, its just plain cruel

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    #29

    Egg Fast Keto Mom Group

    Egg Fast Keto Mom Group

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    #30

    Who Says You Can't Be Cool And Rebellious Once You're A Mom

    Who Says You Can't Be Cool And Rebellious Once You're A Mom

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    Ozacoter
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Me potentially killing people and being proud of it.

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    “The best way to make sure that a child starting out in the world feels like their parents believe in them—rather than simply being fed up—is for the parent to make it explicit!” Skenazy explained that this is how parents can communicate to their kids that it’s time to be more independent.

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    The expert also highlighted that telling the child that you’ll always love them, even though they’re becoming more independent is a healthy, mature way of communicating with them. However, that relies heavily on the parents themselves learning to loosen their grips on their kids and setting the bar for their expectations lower (which, maybe counterintuitively, leads to healthier, happier families).

    So, dear Readers, what did you think of this list? Were there any pics that made you go, “Wow, that’s enough internet for me today?” Where do you think the line between being a good and a bad parent lies? What’s the best way to avoid drama on parent groups on social media? Share your thoughts and feelings in the comment section below. And remember, stay excellent!

    #31

    Please Don’t Make Me Explain Why

    Please Don’t Make Me Explain Why

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    Dark_flame
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Please don't ask me to explain why." 🙃

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    #32

    Yeah, That’s Just Insane

    Yeah, That’s Just Insane

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    Zedrapazia
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People have a bad mood because of Covid-19, not 5G.

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    #33

    Common Core Is Definitely Part Of The Leftist Agenda

    Common Core Is Definitely Part Of The Leftist Agenda

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    InvincibleRodent
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Home schooling group" kinda defeats the purpose of it being homeschooling, doesn't it. Doing it in a group is not a "home schooling group", that's an illegally operated, small school with unqualified teachers.

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    #34

    If You Have To Ask...

    If You Have To Ask...

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    #35

    If Only It Fixed Everything (Found In My Breastfeeding Group)

    If Only It Fixed Everything (Found In My Breastfeeding Group)

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    #36

    I Guess You’re Out Of Luck Then

    I Guess You’re Out Of Luck Then

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    River Webb
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    next thing you know it, breastmilk will cure cancer

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    #37

    Can’t Find Science To Back Up Your Claim? Must Be God

    Can’t Find Science To Back Up Your Claim? Must Be God

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    #38

    God Forbid, A Bald Baby!

    God Forbid, A Bald Baby!

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    BrokenFlame
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bruh this child is going to have self-esteem issues if the parents continue to do this all the way up to adult stage.

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    #39

    Prayer Isn’t Billable To Insurance, Karen

    Prayer Isn’t Billable To Insurance, Karen

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    troufaki13
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think they're called shamans, but I don't think they believe in Jesus :/

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    #40

    Who Knew I Wasn’t A Real Mom?

    Who Knew I Wasn’t A Real Mom?

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    Natalia
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "If you breastfeed like a REAL mom".... WHAT THE...? ???

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    #41

    Some Girl Posted A Question Asking Pregnant Moms If They Thought They Have Or Have Had Covid-19...

    Some Girl Posted A Question Asking Pregnant Moms If They Thought They Have Or Have Had Covid-19...

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    Foxxy (The Original)
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good for you. Now tell that to the 2+million people who have died and the millions more suffering with severe adverse side effects months later. It’s like saying, I didn’t die from not wearing seatbelts so clearly we don’t need them.

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    #42

    Acv And Lemon Juice, The Literal Cure-All!

    Acv And Lemon Juice, The Literal Cure-All!

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    Brandy Grote
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It might break down calcium carbonate on your chrome fixtures, but you might do more harm than good with this. Depends on diabetes, kidneys, potassium levels...

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    #43

    “They”

    “They”

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    Donkey boi
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear concerned citizen, This is a lie. The magnetic field created by our microchips power core causes them to stick to the inside of the needle. We now give all microchips via ice-cream. Kind regards, 'they'.

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    #44

    Karen Spreading Some Hard Truths

    Karen Spreading Some Hard Truths

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    Deborah B
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the world without vaccines for ONE pandemic causing disease. Imagine if we were also unprotected from measles, mumps, chicken pox, diptheria, polio, whooping cough, rubella, and many more...

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    #45

    The Unique Name Olympics Are In Full Swing

    The Unique Name Olympics Are In Full Swing

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    N G
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Finn isn't that bad. Fairly certain it was a not uncommon name back in the early 90s (or even earlier)

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    #46

    How Long Are We Using Months Now?

    How Long Are We Using Months Now?

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    #47

    Yikes

    Yikes

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    Bill
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Humanity has had sex with their kids in the room for most of history

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    #48

    What In The Hell

    What In The Hell

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