Parenting is one of life’s biggest and most enjoyable challenges. Helping your children grow into incredibly capable, morally upstanding, and passionate dreamers is every parent’s wish. However… we sometimes lose faith in the future of the human race when we see how some parents are acting online. The sad fact is, just because someone is a parent doesn’t mean that they’re a good one (even if they love their kids as much as anyone else).

There’s an online group on Reddit with 245k members called '[Stuff] Mom Groups Say' that’s been active since 2018. It's dedicated to shaming bad moms and all of their mom group drama. From anti-vaxx showdowns to debates about essential oils, the subreddit believes that these parents deserve to be called out for their behavior that, frankly, causes more harm than good.

Scroll down to lose a chunk of your faith in humanity, upvote the best of the worst pics, and do let us know what you think about these anti-parents, dear Pandas. Bored Panda spoke about the drama and misinformation that sometimes can be found in social media mom groups with the moderators of the '[Stuff] Mom Groups Say' subreddit, as well as with Samantha Scroggin, the founder of the 'Walking Outside in Slippers' parenting blog. Check out what they had to say below to pick up some great advice.

#1

This Mom On Why She Is Refusing The Big C19 Vaccine

This Mom On Why She Is Refusing The Big C19 Vaccine

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Jonathan
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2 months ago

This needs to stop. There are a lot of Muslims in my country that refuse to get the vaccine because people are saying there is pork in it!!

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#2

Why Do They All Have To Hate Science Though?

Why Do They All Have To Hate Science Though?

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chi-wei shen
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2 months ago

That's the credo of virtually every anti-vaxxer.

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#3

Why Are Karen’s So Against Thermometers? Don’t Consent! Bonus Snark At The End

Why Are Karen’s So Against Thermometers? Don’t Consent! Bonus Snark At The End

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giovanna
Community Member
2 months ago

Ahah I love the last reply. And somehow I have the suspect that these kind of people are all up in arms to defend the 2nd amendment. But God forbid they point a thermometer to my child.

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"In my experience with online parenting communities, it's best to abide by the rules posted in these groups. Usually, that means no selling anything and no foul language, at a minimum. I generally try to be patient with people and open to different viewpoints, but it's aggravating when people are acting ignorant or spreading misinformation. In those cases, I try to give evidence of the facts without personal attacks," parenting blogger Samantha said.

Samantha used to be a professional journalist and is now a public information officer which means that she's very wary of fake facts. "Parents will make all kinds of claims in parenting groups online, including that vaccines are harmful. They'll recommend all sorts of remedies. But it's up to us to seek out reputable sources of information to help us make our own decisions on what's best for our kids," she warned that we have to do proper research instead of believing every bit of advice that we find online.

"I think we should reserve judgment of others' parenting styles when the actions taken are harmful to the child. And I realize what is harmful is open to interpretation. But if no one is being abused, let's have some grace for one another and the choices we make. Each child is different, and parents often know what works best for their child. Parenting is hard, and we can use as much support as we can get," she added.

#4

I Asked About Learning Activities For My Toddler

I Asked About Learning Activities For My Toddler

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Natalia
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2 months ago

Hehehe

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#5

Saw This And Just Knew It Belonged Here

Saw This And Just Knew It Belonged Here

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Sleazy Weaver
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2 months ago

Animal abuse & child abuse all in one.

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#6

The Mom Group I'm In Is A Goldmine For Crazy. I Posted About My 2 Year Old Asking For Privacy In The Bathroom And This Was A Comment I Got

The Mom Group I'm In Is A Goldmine For Crazy. I Posted About My 2 Year Old Asking For Privacy In The Bathroom And This Was A Comment I Got

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Natalia
Community Member
2 months ago

Awkward 😬

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Meanwhile, a lot of the subreddit's moderators pitched in to answer Bored Panda's questions. The mods explained that mom groups can sometimes be full of potentially dangerous misinformation, a desire to make money off more naive parents, and perpetuating "toxic rhetoric with zero consequences." The community also calls out those online groups that fanatically believe they're raising their kids "The Right Way" and anyone not doing so is a bad parent.

"The biggest lies are the coordinated lies spread in these groups on new parents at a vulnerable point of their lives. These women don’t need essential oils, or colloidal silver, they need paid family leave, affordable post-Partum care, health equities," one moderator explained. "New parents can be as dramatic as they want to be, they’re sleep-deprived and scared and have bills piling up and a new baby. Parental groups are allowed to be dramatic, they reflect the rawest human nature at one of the most 'precious' and yet frighteningly lonesome, most physically and mentally demanding, moments of our lives."

#7

Is Covid19 Real? Asked And Answered In A Local Mom Group

Is Covid19 Real? Asked And Answered In A Local Mom Group

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Donkey boi
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2 months ago

'Next slide please...'

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#8

Gay Satanic Clowns

Gay Satanic Clowns

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JuJu
Community Member
2 months ago

May the Gay Satanic Clowns save us all from overzealous Bible-thumpers

KombatBunni
Community Member
2 months ago

My version of a bible thumper is where I grab the biggest one I can find and thump dumb idiots with it..while cheering on the gay satanic clowns..

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Jayson Hammer
Community Member
2 months ago

Oh NO! Not "the homosexuals"!

Christian Bradshaw
Community Member
2 months ago

That is literally word for word what I was going to comment lol

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*screamsinbisexual*
Community Member
2 months ago

Of course, I am one of the gay satanic clowns lol

Ruby DosSantos
Community Member
1 month ago

Lol yup

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Chucky Leganjit
Community Member
2 months ago

I wish people would just read the Satanic Bible or read what the Temple of Satan does. Satanism is a very healthy anti religion that makes you ask questions and try a different point of view.

Lis A
Community Member
2 months ago

Very supportive of local communities as well!

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Donkey boi
Community Member
2 months ago

'Gay Satanic Clowns', the movie you didn't know you wanted, until a Karen was offended by normal human beings!

BonnieBlueButler
Community Member
2 months ago

Pretty much any Dateline or Discover ID presentation of John Wayne Gacy

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Michelle M
Community Member
2 months ago

When she wrote 'I asked to speak to a manager', I immediately knew who she was.

Batwench
Community Member
2 months ago

Now I want a Gay Satanic Clown figure.

Community Member
2 months ago

Just putting it out there but not all of us Christians are like this. It's just that these kinda people get more publicity.

Claire Elizabeth
Community Member
1 week ago

thank you :)

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Eric Law
Community Member
2 months ago

"Gay Satanic Clowns" = great name for a band.

Laura Dawson
Community Member
2 months ago

this post sounds like a parody of a god fearing homophobic mum

Laura Craig
Community Member
2 months ago

Am I the only one that lowkey wants "Gay Satanic Clowns" to be the next Neflix series?

R L
Community Member
2 months ago

A picture of the Gay Satanic Clown would have been appreciated- I haven't seen one before.

sturmwesen
Community Member
2 months ago

Can we make it a cult? With robes and ceremonies?

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GoodWolf
Community Member
2 months ago

South Park, anyone?

Lunar Bicycle
Community Member
2 months ago

I like how she capitalized “Gay Satanic Clowns” but not “the lord”.

Blueberry Woofle
Community Member
2 months ago

She named her child ASHLEIGH ahghfjgaf-

Rancho Schicklgruber
Community Member
2 months ago

You might also want to consider a spell-checker. The "savoir" missed a few oopsies in your retarded brain-fart-speech.

⚞ Katniss Everdeen ⚟
Community Member
1 month ago

I hate this lady as much as the next guy but I gotta ask you not to use the r-slur as it has a history of being used to harass people with mental illness. Thanks.

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Wolfstar
Community Member
2 months ago

*sigh* I hate these Bible thumpers. Gay Satanic Clowns, please do your thing and bring down on these poor, uneducated people the power of gayness, rainbows, and glitter.

Brandy Grote
Community Member
2 months ago

I want a savoir. Except I enjoy the musical stylings of Satanism and the Homosexuals...

Viviane
Community Member
2 months ago

I booked them for my wedding. Great band. I suspect a few folks crashed just to join the conga line.

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Lexi Mitchell
Community Member
2 months ago

This sounds like a troll tbh. Plus Hot Topic hasn’t even had much occult-y stuff in it for years, it’s mostly just meme shirts and Harry Potter sweaters.

Isabella Vega
Community Member
2 months ago

Aww I like hot topic but am also a Christian

trans_ylvania
Community Member
3 weeks ago

oH nO wOuLdN't WaNt To CaTcH tHe GaY™

Tracy Wolfe
Community Member
1 month ago

Soooo, your god is anti clowns?

Claire Elizabeth
Community Member
1 week ago

I'm a Christian and I'm 99.999999% sure that the Bible says nothing about clowns lol

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Aimee hester
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2 months ago

Oh lord have mercy. When I worked at the Hot Topic in Charlotte, NC we had a Bible shop as our neighbor. Every day we had to sweep up the Jesus pamphlets that they would sneak into our folded shirts. Pretty fun having "You Satanists are all going to hell!" screamed outside our front gates by fellow mall employees once per week too. #goingtohell

Ella Greenman
Community Member
2 months ago

OK GUYS GOD LOVES ALL EVEN GAYS MKAY DAVID WAY BI AVVORDIN TO RESERCH AND THAT BIT IN THE BIBLE ABOUT NO GAY WAS MISTRANSLATED

Claire Elizabeth
Community Member
1 week ago

romans 1:18-32 pls

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Beth W
Community Member
2 months ago

Savoir? Is she being “faire” ?

Violet Smith
Community Member
2 months ago

The lord is my savoir. Zut alors!!

pansexualandproud
Community Member
2 months ago

ohhh i love hot topic!!!!!! I just got some new earrings from there

Demon Child
Community Member
2 months ago (edited)

Ah yes, "The homosexuals". An alien race whose only purpose is to make our frogs gay until they go into extinction. 😔 obviously, a current problem, as we all know they release homosexual chemicals in the air that gives us better fashion style and an obsession with glitter🙄

Brandi VanSteenwyk
Community Member
2 months ago

I have the PERFECT, HOLY solution to this situation.... KEEP YOUR "HOLIER THAN THOU, I MUST SAVE THE MASSES FROM THEMSELVES!" ASS FAR AWAY FROM THEM!!

John Montgomery
Community Member
2 months ago

But then how would they prove they're holier than thou? You'd never see them doing something good for someone likely so they have to show they're "good" somehow

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Ashheart of Skyclan
Community Member
1 month ago (edited)

Gay satanic clowns... if my bisexual butt ever starts a band that's totally what it's being named >:D Thanks Karen

Leslie Tollefson
Community Member
1 month ago

I HAVE DIBS ON GAY SATANIC CLOWNS FOR MY BAND NAME!!

Rose
Community Member
1 month ago

"ThE hOmOsExUaLs" oh no so scary (not)

Nora the mistake 0_o
Community Member
1 month ago

ok this woman is a bitch

Ivan Ilic
Community Member
1 month ago

Religious fanatics afraid of Gay Satanic Clowns haha.Please let asteroid destroy are planet at ounce.

elfin
Community Member
1 month ago

"Gay Satanic Clowns" would be a great name for a rock band.

Jaybird3939
Community Member
1 month ago

Gay Satanic Clowns sounds like a great rock group

Martha Higgins
Community Member
1 month ago

If "the good lord" is your "savoir," you have more problems than your small, warped mind.

purple zebra
Community Member
1 month ago

Always did like hot topic.

BabaBizzle
Community Member
1 month ago

Isn’t it the same “god” that created those all edged “gay satanic clowns” this dumb c*nt speaks of? Cant wait for her kid to get knocked up at 16 cause she’s so bloody repressed and their religion is anti-abortion. All religions are cults and these by the word followers are the worst abusers of others in the name of their “religion”. I’m sure the rainbow coloured pierced manager was a lovely woman who works hard and doesn’t judge others based on their choice of fashion. I feel sorry for this freak who loves her life as a slave to words in a book and an invisible “man” who tells her how to life her life and judge others if they don’t look or act how she does. Ten to one she’s an overweight miserable hillbilly who has too many kids and too little brain cells.

JustSomeKid
Community Member
2 months ago

I love being a Gay Satanic Clown, it's so much fun.

grafxgal60073
Community Member
2 months ago

I would rather live a town of Gay Satanic Clowns than live next door to that woman.

UncleRussian
Community Member
2 months ago

Ok first of all who the hell spells the name Ashley like that

Anita Pickle
Community Member
2 months ago

Hahahaha sure poisoning the mind of our kids... He was such a nice boy until he walked into "the hot topic" and became a gay satainic clown. Lol people are nuckin futs

Jessica Shookhoff
Community Member
2 months ago

Damn it, Karen, now I want to go hang out with a store full of Gay Satanic Clowns!

Imma
Community Member
2 months ago

"poisoning the mind of our kids"? Really? I think she is capable of doing that just fine by herself, with that ugly hate I afraid :(

deanna woods
Community Member
2 months ago

Speaking as a Christian, this lady's whole speech is embarrassing. I like to go to Hot Topic and I like to go to the store Spencer's. Being Christian, doesn't mean that you can't enjoy a walk on the wild side. Also there's not anything that terrible about these stores unless you have live on a cult commune for several years.

Chloe Drury
Community Member
2 months ago

omg no !!!! ay people!! runnnnn!!!!!! and omg goth styled clothing!!!! oh nooo!!

WholesomeArmyweeb
Community Member
2 months ago

Gassp *is offended* does she mean anime? And what’s wrong with homosexuals?! Bad move Karen I have been attacked on two levels. Probably a lot of others too RIP :,(

A Random Panda
Community Member
2 months ago

Gay satanic clowns should be a thing.

Gillian Mackenzie
Community Member
2 months ago

So first of all "you guy's" does not need a freaking apostrophe. Second, I'm a woman of faith and she makes me feel sick. I am a Christian who is way too liberal for this right wing excuse for a woman of faith. Just want to say that I DO NOT share this woman's opinions about sexual orientation. I fully support LGBTQ+ xxx

Phil Seiden
Community Member
2 months ago

Let me see here... I think my copy of the Necronomicon has something on this.

Logic and Reason
Community Member
2 months ago

She’s not wrong about the satanic clothing though. I bought a pair of shorts by Blackmagic Cult there and they’re covered in pentagrams. They’re my favorite.

ingrid
Community Member
2 months ago

ASHLEIGH NOOOO

Blake Ingram
Community Member
2 months ago

Satanism and the Homosexuals sounds like a punk rock band.

Vince
Community Member
2 months ago

might as well name her AshTray

Jeff Hejlik
Community Member
2 months ago

2 great band name ideas from this post alone--Satanism and the Homosexuals; Gay Satanic Clowns

Roland Gosselin
Community Member
2 months ago

Too much stupid to ever be able to make that person right.

trans_ylvania
Community Member
3 weeks ago

h o t t o p i c

Elma Young
Community Member
1 month ago

What??

angelica H
Community Member
1 month ago

this is why im free of the tight binds of religion

Daniele Ribolla
Community Member
1 month ago

hey, but also little pop figure of Carrie Underwood is so salutary for yr kids mind...

Leesa DeAndrea
Community Member
1 month ago

Says the person whose mind has been poisoned by superstition.

Elaine Mattingly
Community Member
1 month ago

Kind of judgementle aren't you.

backatya
Community Member
1 month ago

I don't completely agree with this lady. But just think about this. Most female clothes are made to have them look almost like hookers. Looking pretty is one thing looking slutty is another. The tops are so revealing or too low cut. The pants are so tight all over that they look painted on. Young girls shouldn't especially fat girls be wearing clothes like that. They don't have any reason to show off at such an early age especially when men that just got released from prison or the ones who are future pedophiles/rapist are out there. People in America think, I have rights. Just because the laws say you can't rape women that they're safe. Criminals and mentally ill are out there and people usually can't determine if they are one of those predators. It's happened everywhere and even in small towns that people said nothing like that ever happens here. Well it does happen more than you think. You wouldn't go in a high crime ghetto showing off a bundle $, same with dressing provocative.

Faith Hurst
Community Member
1 month ago

Gay and satanic are great with but I draw the line at clowns.

Marie
Community Member
1 month ago

Of course she wanted to speak to the manager😁

Mosheh Wolf
Community Member
1 month ago

I have never entered a Hot Topic, bit if they promise a Gay Satanic Clown in every one, I swear that I will not only enter it, but also buy something!

Shelley Kapach
Community Member
1 month ago

I much prefer Gay Satanic Clowns over Evangelicals-they are more human.

H.L.Lewis
Community Member
1 month ago

All clowns are satanic, but there are not a higher proportion of them that are gay than in general society. Don't exaggerate entitled lady. Lol

Laura Mende
Community Member
1 month ago

IS THIS REAL??? Sometimes I just don't know what in America is real, or are they always kidding us? What the fish is wrong with this people?

Dreamwolf
Community Member
1 month ago

Well this just makes me sad, because I'm bisexual and want to dye my hair light pink at the ends. I think I would look cute with pink hair.

Yeetus Deletus
Community Member
1 month ago

as a lesbian, i now identify as a gay satanic clown

Nevada De Avibus
Community Member
1 month ago

Anyone else read that as Hotto-pic?

Torz Lloyd
Community Member
2 months ago

I'm just sad that we don't have hot topics in the U.K. It sounds like my type of shop.

Lord Mysticlaw
Community Member
2 months ago

I mean, I can't help but laugh about the gay satanic clowns...

Janoel Murrey
Community Member
2 months ago

i am a christian and i say we should not persecute the LGBTQ community God said to love everybody who you want to be with is who you want to be with whether you're gay lesbian bi I don't care we love who we love

Amber odom
Community Member
2 months ago

Gay Satanic Clowns... now it sounds like a party.

dragon fruit
Community Member
2 months ago

I am religious and just have to say that is NOT the right way to act, just because they don't look like you don't mean there satanic

Daniel Marsh
Community Member
2 months ago

Wait... GAY juggalos?

Rod Egret
Community Member
2 months ago

Gay Satanic Clowns sounds like a great name for a pop punk band!!!

Ayia Grace
Community Member
2 months ago

I'm gonna guess she's hetrosexual. Omg, a valid part of LGBTQ+.

Bisexual Tiger
Community Member
2 months ago

NOT THE GAY SATANIC CLOWNS!!! D:

Mila S
Community Member
2 months ago

"I asked to speak to the manager" being the clear indicator of Karen here

Bernd Herbert
Community Member
2 months ago

"go f**k yourself Karen and mind your own damn business!"

Jen Cook
Community Member
2 months ago

I could never have a conversation with anyone who uses the phrase "the homosexuals"...or believes that a magic sky being is going to save anyone from the "sin" of simply being who they are.

Giulia
Community Member
2 months ago

this is a troll. i hope.

JinxBox
Community Member
2 months ago

My oppinion as a theologian: Christians in the U.S. should name their crazy conservative religion by a new name instead of making the rest of us be ashamed to belong to the same church. Being an anti-science jerk is not being a good christian. Following Jesus means loving, not judging.

NaruTheCollective
Community Member
2 months ago

I will pray for your poor spelling and grammar.

소피아
Community Member
2 months ago

no, you're the clown.

InfectedVoice
Community Member
2 months ago

Gay satanic clowns is going to be the name of my next band.

Amy Pattie
Community Member
2 months ago

As a woman of faith I find that Gay Satanic colourful-haired make wonderful, respectful clients.

BlackLabOwner
Community Member
2 months ago

It is okay to be another religion plz tell them to chill

Rowan_boi
Community Member
2 months ago

PHHT hot topic isnt even for kids... WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING, I mean... you dont have to go there if you want and know that the people running it probably arent gay, satanic, and or, a clown (NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING ANY OF THEM!!)🏳️‍🌈😈🤡

Skadi Lifdis
Community Member
2 months ago

Reminds me if the first time my friend took me into a Hot Topic. I was an extremely sheltered "Christian" kid (the parentheses are because I was still trying to believe). She said I had the most freaked out look on my face. I can say I don't have that same reaction. It's more along the lines of disgust because everything in there's crap.

grey galah
Community Member
2 months ago

I went online to buy gay satanic stuff and was really disappointed

NWB
Community Member
2 months ago

keep praying love.......even though it will never work!

Brandi VanSteenwyk
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2 months ago

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Darth Kittius
Community Member
2 months ago

I will stay there and keep sifting through pins, contributing to the blood sacrifice with every finger prick

MandaPanda
Community Member
2 months ago

Kinda want to go to Hot Topic now, who's with me?

JLH
Community Member
2 months ago

This sounds fake. Maybe rabble-rousing, maybe satire, but I'm not buying it.

Pungent Sauce
Community Member
2 months ago

Giving your kid a name straight off of OnlyFans should help too...

M O'Connell
Community Member
2 months ago

I am very curious exactly what aspects of the store she felt were "gay" and which were "satanic." Were any of them both?

Nevits Yibble
Community Member
2 months ago

And we're all told we must "respect people's religious beliefs"

kjorn
Community Member
2 months ago

the gay satanic clowns are the worst type of clowns

Lilibeth Rodriguez
Community Member
2 months ago

I gather she’s never been to Hot Topic!

scootz
Community Member
2 months ago

Religion is the only poison kids should be worried about.

Aragorn II Elessar
Community Member
2 months ago

Gay, satanic, all fine. But I don’t f**k with clowns

Holly Allen
Community Member
2 months ago

🤦

Roxy Eastland
Community Member
2 months ago

This has to be a deliberate spoof? Or otherwise, why don't we have shops full of Gay Satanic Clowns in the UK???? That would bring the high street back to life.

Taylor McDermott
Community Member
2 months ago

I’m going to start a band just so I can name them Gay Satanic Clowns

Teucer T
Community Member
2 months ago

Are clowns satanic? Yes... Are gay people satanic? Of course not.

J. Normal
Community Member
2 months ago

I don't think even Satan wants to fck with clowns.

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Becca Gizmo the Squirrel
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2 months ago

So much judgement in one comment. Gay satanic clowns. Wow.

YoyoSthlm
Community Member
2 months ago

savior*

James016
Community Member
2 months ago (edited)

Judgement day is coming, when they raise Biffo, Dark Lord of the hellcircus.

Alex De Leon
Community Member
2 months ago

As a Christian and someone who doesn't agree with homosexuality, this is literally the stupidest thing I've ever read.

CowboyHank
Community Member
2 months ago

Jesus Christ said that people that preached His gospel would be ridiculed. I was taught this as a child. As a child I really thought, "Yeah right. Why would anyone give people a hard time that were just speaking the truth? This is something that everyone has heard about, right?" I now know that Christ was right. But I still don't really get it. Why are people ridiculing someone over their religious beliefs?

Elizabeth Molloy
Community Member
2 months ago

"Poisoning the minds of children" is Christianity's thing — don't tread on their toes!

Truth Monster
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2 months ago

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I think this is a fake post.

somnomania
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2 months ago

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i wonder if this lady understands that the people she should be complaining to are the manufacturers of all the merchandise, instead of the storefront selling it

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It’s Gross Karen. I’m Also Pretty Certain It’s Illegal To Feed Unsuspecting People Your Bodily Fluids

It’s Gross Karen. I’m Also Pretty Certain It’s Illegal To Feed Unsuspecting People Your Bodily Fluids

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Ellen Ranks
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2 months ago

Don't know which one is worse, the original post or the reply.

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The moderator continued: "So when people enter their lives promising a listening ear, a magical solution, and then shame them for breastfeeding or not breastfeeding, for co-sleeping, or sleep training, or not using magical amber teething beads, or for choosing vaccinations, then those are the heinous people that need to be shamed. They are actively manipulating people with a phony agenda and they need to be called out.”

Another moderator told Bored Pand that what inspired them to start the subreddit in the first place was the overall culture in mom groups that pushed their personal parenting philosophies as the one and only way to parent.

"These groups (like Cherry Universal, with specific subgroups for the crunchy moms and the sanctimonious moms) focus on preaching their way of parenting and viciously attack anyone who doesn’t fall in line. They’re a bigger problem for society too. Do you want to know where the anti-masking movement started? Look at posts from March-May of 2020 in crunchy mom groups. They push and perpetuate vaccine misinformation and an overall general mistrust of science and they use shame, groupthink, and banning to enforce their beliefs."

#10

Found On A Baby Sleep Help Website. Says

Found On A Baby Sleep Help Website. Says

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Foxxy (The Original)
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2 months ago

Those poor babies.

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#11

Maybe Because That’s Illegal

Maybe Because That’s Illegal

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Dark_flame
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2 months ago

😳😱

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#12

*stares In Cps*

*stares In Cps*

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troufaki13
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2 months ago

Imagine being their friend and she invites you over for chili. HELL NO!!

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However, the mod pointed out that far from every single mom group is bad. "Our birth month group, for example, has been the saving grace of my journey into parenthood. I have a cohort of parents who all have a child at the same age as mine. It’s a great way to get a quick pulse on typical development and also just feel generally supported, validated, challenged to be a better parent or find different and better ways to parent in a shame-free environment. I have a virtual village and that is just really incredible."

They continued: "To be really honest, it was how supportive I found my birth month group to be that sent me out in search of additional groups. My infant won’t eat baby food—oh, maybe I should check out this baby-led weaning group for ideas! (It was great, by the way.) But then when we started stumbling onto other groups that were just cesspools of negativity, abuse, bullying, etc, we learned about the subculture of 'mommy drama groups' and decided to bring it out into the public eye."

#13

Guilt Tripping Your 3 Yo Child Into Nursing Is Gross

Guilt Tripping Your 3 Yo Child Into Nursing Is Gross

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troufaki13
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2 months ago

This is so wrong on so many levels...

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#14

From A Mom Group On Instagram. I Guess People Without Children Are Not Allowed To Be Tired

From A Mom Group On Instagram. I Guess People Without Children Are Not Allowed To Be Tired

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troufaki13
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2 months ago

Apparently it's a privilege that comes with parenthood :/

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This Seems Like A Healthy Relationship

This Seems Like A Healthy Relationship

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troufaki13
Community Member
2 months ago

Relationship goals *not*

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We’ve written extensively about how to be a great parent and how to help your kids become independent. And, considering that there still are (and always will be) plenty of parents out there who either stifle their kids or who constantly exhaust themselves, the advice bodes repeating.

Anita Cleare, a parenting expert and the author of ‘The Work/Parent Switch,’ explained to Bored Panda in a previous interview all about how to overcome the desire to be a ‘perfect’ parent and how to stay positive when we’re all way, way too exhausted.

According to parenting expert Cleare, aiming to be a ‘perfect’ parent is the wrong way to go about things. This does more harm than good because it puts lots of unreachable expectations and undue pressure on both parents and children alike.

#16

That’s Not How Any Of This Works

That’s Not How Any Of This Works

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Deborah B
Community Member
2 months ago

If WaTeR WorkED, YoU WouLdN'T NeEd To kEeP DRinKiNg It....

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#17

Given To My Daughter Through A Mom Group

Given To My Daughter Through A Mom Group

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Marie
Community Member
2 months ago

"some scientists"

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#18

My Child's Future Means Nothing To Me

My Child's Future Means Nothing To Me

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River Webb
Community Member
2 months ago

if I don't get anything out of it, it doesn't matter

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“Trying to be a perfect parent is bad for children and bad for parents because it sets everybody up to fail. Research shows that ‘good enough’ parenting is best for children,” Cleare explained.

Instead, the expert suggests that all parents aim for ‘good enough’ parenting that actually helps improve our kids’ independence instead of them being overly-reliant on us.

In Cleare’s words, this involves “getting it right most of the time but also failing your children in ways they can handle—so that they gradually increase their independence.”

#19

Vaccinations Made My Daughter Gay

Vaccinations Made My Daughter Gay

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Natalia
Community Member
2 months ago

C'mon people! I'm sure we can do better than that. Please educate yourselves.

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#20

Do Babies Give Hickies?

Do Babies Give Hickies?

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River Webb
Community Member
2 months ago

please tell me this is a joke

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#21

This Extreme Fear-Mongering Pisses Me Off So Much

This Extreme Fear-Mongering Pisses Me Off So Much

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soni w
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2 months ago

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In Australia drs were giving under 5 year olds flu shots with a flu vaccine brand that was stipulated NOT to be used for babies and toddlers. Result was febrile convulsions and brain damage. Yep. Trust your doctor. This was in 2012.

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According to parenting expert Cleare, “Great parents make mistakes but they try to learn from them (and not to repeat them too often!).”

No matter your parenting style, you can’t do much if you’re overworked and exhausted. That means that looking after yourself is priority number one. If you put yourself last, you’re not doing your kids any favors, Cleare told Bored Panda.

#22

F Your Privacy. I’m Gonna Show 53,000 People Your Picture And Tell Them You Got Your Period Today!

F Your Privacy. I’m Gonna Show 53,000 People Your Picture And Tell Them You Got Your Period Today!

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Foxxy (The Original)
Community Member
2 months ago

Poor girl, how embarrassing for her.

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#23

From An Unschooling Facebook Page. Poor Kid

From An Unschooling Facebook Page. Poor Kid

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giovanna
Community Member
2 months ago

You sign him up for real school

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#24

I Literally Don't Even Know What To Say

I Literally Don't Even Know What To Say

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howohowo
Community Member
2 months ago

what did I just read

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“Even when you are really busy, try to find regular 5-20 minute breaks in your day when you can relax, practice some mindfulness, or do something joyful,” she said.

“Looking for the positives really does increase positivity,” the parenting expert added, suggesting that we try to maintain positive mindsets by being grateful and thinking about, for example, the 3 things that we’re glad to have in our lives.

#25

Uhhhh Would This Be A Major Red Flag To Anyone Else?

Uhhhh Would This Be A Major Red Flag To Anyone Else?

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Ozacoter
Community Member
2 months ago

Wow. Lazy excuse to be a lousy parent.

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#26

They're Not Vaxxing Their Dogs Either

They're Not Vaxxing Their Dogs Either

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Evelína Zlá
Community Member
2 months ago

Please... take the poor doggo from her...

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#27

My Kid's Dentist Told Me Skipping Antibiotics Will Be Really Painful For Her, So I'd Like To Go Ahead And Do That

My Kid's Dentist Told Me Skipping Antibiotics Will Be Really Painful For Her, So I'd Like To Go Ahead And Do That

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Foxxy (The Original)
Community Member
2 months ago

I actually have never heard of someone taking antibiotics BEFORE tooth extraction. Is this really a thing coz I have had 4 teeth extracted and not once did I need to do that. Afterwards yes, but not before.

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Meanwhile, Lenore Skenazy, the president of the Let Grow nonprofit that aims to promote kids’ independence and fights overprotection, explained to us that children’s confidence grows when they know that others believe in them.

“A teacher, coach, grandparent, or, of course, parent who thinks you are terrific and ready to wow the world can make all the difference in the world,” Skenazy said, pointing out that when the support’s not there, it can have negative consequences on the child. So it’s important to balance support while also letting kids develop their independence.

According to Skenazy, how a parent tells their kids something is often more important than what they tell them to do. Kids take cues from grownups, so even phrasing something differently or using a different tone can have positive effects even if the topic that’s being talked about is far from pleasant.

#28

Thats More Than 3 Pagents A Month If They Start When She Was Born! Of Course The Poor Thing Doesn't Want To Out Her Sippy Cup Down Shes A Baby!

Thats More Than 3 Pagents A Month If They Start When She Was Born! Of Course The Poor Thing Doesn't Want To Out Her Sippy Cup Down Shes A Baby!

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River Webb
Community Member
2 months ago

child pageants should be illegal, its just plain cruel

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#29

Egg Fast Keto Mom Group

Egg Fast Keto Mom Group

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J. Cole
Community Member
2 months ago

Don't sit behind her on the bus... Get it? Fart joke.

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#30

Who Says You Can't Be Cool And Rebellious Once You're A Mom

Who Says You Can't Be Cool And Rebellious Once You're A Mom

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Ozacoter
Community Member
2 months ago

Me potentially killing people and being proud of it.

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“The best way to make sure that a child starting out in the world feels like their parents believe in them—rather than simply being fed up—is for the parent to make it explicit!” Skenazy explained that this is how parents can communicate to their kids that it’s time to be more independent.

The expert also highlighted that telling the child that you’ll always love them, even though they’re becoming more independent is a healthy, mature way of communicating with them. However, that relies heavily on the parents themselves learning to loosen their grips on their kids and setting the bar for their expectations lower (which, maybe counterintuitively, leads to healthier, happier families).

So, dear Readers, what did you think of this list? Were there any pics that made you go, “Wow, that’s enough internet for me today?” Where do you think the line between being a good and a bad parent lies? What’s the best way to avoid drama on parent groups on social media? Share your thoughts and feelings in the comment section below. And remember, stay excellent!

#31

Please Don’t Make Me Explain Why

Please Don’t Make Me Explain Why

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Dark_flame
Community Member
2 months ago

"Please don't ask me to explain why." 🙃

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#32

Yeah, That’s Just Insane

Yeah, That’s Just Insane

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Zedrapazia
Community Member
2 months ago

People have a bad mood because of Covid-19, not 5G.

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#33

Common Core Is Definitely Part Of The Leftist Agenda

Common Core Is Definitely Part Of The Leftist Agenda

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Rancho Schicklgruber
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2 months ago

Have you tried the Amish...?

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#34

If You Have To Ask...

If You Have To Ask...

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Moon
Community Member
2 months ago

Wait what the f**k

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#35

If Only It Fixed Everything (Found In My Breastfeeding Group)

If Only It Fixed Everything (Found In My Breastfeeding Group)

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Evelína Zlá
Community Member
2 months ago

This one is actually funny...

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#36

I Guess You’re Out Of Luck Then

I Guess You’re Out Of Luck Then

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River Webb
Community Member
2 months ago

next thing you know it, breastmilk will cure cancer

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#37

Can’t Find Science To Back Up Your Claim? Must Be God

Can’t Find Science To Back Up Your Claim? Must Be God

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Ellen Ranks
Community Member
2 months ago

Oh GOD!

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#38

God Forbid, A Bald Baby!

God Forbid, A Bald Baby!

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BrokenFlame
Community Member
2 months ago

Bruh this child is going to have self-esteem issues if the parents continue to do this all the way up to adult stage.

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#39

Prayer Isn’t Billable To Insurance, Karen

Prayer Isn’t Billable To Insurance, Karen

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troufaki13
Community Member
2 months ago

I think they're called shamans, but I don't think they believe in Jesus :/

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#40

Who Knew I Wasn’t A Real Mom?

Who Knew I Wasn’t A Real Mom?