It is impossible to imagine human history without traditions or holidays of some sort. They’re a core part of who we are, just like spirituality, creativity, and enjoying a darn good home-cooked meal. We’re hardwired to be social and empathetic, after all, so there’s a constant inner desire to connect to the people around us. Celebrating things on a regular basis is a way to do just that.
However, no traditions fully withstand the test of time. All of them change to some extent. Others disappear completely. The members of the r/AskAnAmerican online community considered exactly this question, sharing which US traditions and holidays they believe might become completely obsolete over the next few decades. Scroll down to read their thoughts on this, including why Halloween and Christmas might look very different in the future.
Bored Panda wanted to learn more about holidays and traditions, so we got in touch with Glenn Geher, Ph.D., a professor of psychology at the State University of New York at New Paltz and a published author. We also reached out to redditor u/Extreme-Routine3822 who started the viral online discussion in the first place. You'll find our interviews with both of them as you read on.
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Day Light Savings.
Hopefully, can't wait to get rid of summer time and have the natural one for the whole year
I was recently on a road trip, I was in and out of Saskatchewan in canada, between time changes due to driving into new time zones and time changes due to driving in and out of daylight savings time depending on the province or state (we were going back and forth between USA and Canada) I never knew what time it was :-)
I moved to Asia 20+ years ago. The only time I have to change my watch is when I travel across a time zone. I don't miss it.
It won’t come as a shock to anyone that holidays are a huge deal for us humans here on planet Earth. They’re our way to bond with our communities and maintain our link with history. They’re also often an excuse to eat delicious food surrounded by the people we care about most in the world. Not to mention that holidays usually entail lots of enjoyable activities and games, not just devout and dutiful prayers.
Statista reports that the most popular national and religious events in the United States are Thanksgiving (with a popularity rating of 79%), Memorial Day (78%), and Christmas (also 78%).
Next in terms of popularity are Veterans Day, Mother’s Day, and Father’s Day, all with a rating of 77%. Easter is also a big favorite among Americans with a 71% popularity rating while Halloween (68%), New Year’s Eve (67%), and St. Patrick’s Day are still very much beloved, too. 57% of Americans listed Hanukkah as their favorite holiday while 56% did so for Valentine’s Day and 37% for Ramadan.
Black Friday. It's already dying and I see it basically dead in that time span. Nobody is gonna rush at midnight to save $50 on a TV anymore.
that's actually illegal, the truth is that the TVs being sold on black Friday were not the same TVs that were sold normally, they were of much cheaper quality
Load More Replies...I mean, the only Black Friday/Boxing Day deals I see in the modern age are just minor sales or 3rd tier manufacturers no one's ever heard of. Sure a $300 65" TV sounds good, but am I really gonna trust the Jony brand?
Oh no. We've started to have these sales (in name only) in New Zealand over the past few years. The canny shopper can get up to 10% off some items.
I already got an email from an online store that I just bought from recently for black friday deals.
Bobbing for apples at Halloween. I think it was already dying out when I was a kid, now I barely see it, so it might be gone or mostly gone in 25 years.
It is one of those traditions that all of the sudden makes one wonder why we never questioned the hygiene behind this.
The only time I've ever seen a "bobbing for apples" was a Halloween party and I'm guessing it was around the late 1980s. And I thought, "ew. Everybody's slobbering all over the water and putting their tongue and lips all over the apples. That's disgusting." (My mom raised me never to share anything that goes in someone's mouth, or on someone's head.)
this definitely died out during covid, at least here in the UK. But tbh, I only remember doing it once, maybe twice, growing up. my friends cousin did halloween hook a duck instead with "demon ducks" lol
Because it's disgusting, eww. Dirty water filled with sweat and snot.
After being alive for 36 years here in the U.S., I've determined this is just a movie thing.
After COVID, how is this still being done? Do they change the water and clean the bowl between people?
Ew, why is he tonguing the water? 😖 I had no idea this was a thing, so I looked it up, and ick.
Dr. Geher explained to us why holidays and traditions are such important parts of our lives. "Holidays and various cultural traditions are fundamental, and the nature of the holidays varies from culture to culture. Culturally prescribed gatherings are an extremely basic part of the human experience," he told Bored Panda via email.
"Such gatherings provide opportunities for people to foster and cultivate connections with important others in their lives. Sharing of things like food and gifts, as well as creative activities, such as music, solidify important bonds between people. Given how social we are by nature, this is all very foundational."
Christmas cards. We used to get dozens when I was a kid. Almost every family sent them. Now I only get a couple and only send one or two.
Most older people (over the age of 60) lament this to me, whether they really miss it or whether they're relieved they don't have to participate in sending out stacks upon stacks of Christmas cards. I have about a dozen personalized Christmas cards made up every year, they're fun and cute and feature my pets gardens and hobbies, and send them out to a few friends, my mechanic, my veterinarian, etc.
I send physical cards to everyone of my parents' generation, everyone else gets e cards
Load More Replies...Between the cost and all the wasted trees, I'd rather just send electronic greetings and call it a day. I don't need a printed picture of someone and their kids to hang up past the holidays.
I haven't done Christmas cards in years, they get looked at for a second, sat on a shelf being ignored until it gets thrown out. I can think of better things to spend my money on.
Each year, we receive fewer cards, but I am still going to send out my physical cards each year. I write a personal note in each one. Yes, I'm over 60.
My wife and I started sending cards 17yrs ago when we had our son. We would find a deal at Walgreens or CVS and print out a cute Christmas themed picture of him. As he got old we just started buying them the year before when they go on sale after the holiday. They bring me joy and I know some of our older family members enjoy them too. We get less and less to hang up each year. The price of stamps is killing us though! A former friend would send out an updated family pic and include a summary of their year printed on the card.....that is a bit much.
The Miss America pageant. It's strange now to think how big an annual event it still was in the '80s and '90s; I think for a few years they stopped even televising it.
And on that note, live broadcast television that you access by turning on the TV and flipping through the channels to see what's on. There will still be live events, of course, but in 25 years those may be accessed just through apps. It was only recently that "appointment TV" still provided a common reference point for masses of Americans.
hopefully if this goes away, toddler pageants might also go away.
After hurricane Helene it took a while for our WiFi to be restored. My son is 17 and using an antenna blew his mind. And it's just a flat piece of vinyl or whatnot. Sooo many questions as to how we knew where to put it and why it had to be moved for certain stations. He really got into some shows though... Leverage, Bull, Rex, the new Macgyver. I think he also enjoyed that they were consistent with their schedule.
I hope so. Beauty standards are our own and no body elses. if I think I look good, then shoot, I look good!
The only appointment I’ve ever made for TV is with my recording devices. As aps and streaming replace broadcasting, we’re being herded back into the bad old days, when we completely at the mercy of the broadcasters’ schedules, and stuck having to sit through endless commercials.
I think class reunions will be more or less entirely dead by then.
I have never went to any of mine. The way I look at it is: if I didn't like any of you people back then, I sure as hell don't like you now. Besides, it would cost me thousands of pounds for flights, rental car, accommodation, food, drinks and entertainment. I would rather spend the money on an all-inclusive holiday to the Canaries with the people who actually matter to me.
I feel the same. I liked HS & got on fine with just about everyone, but it holds no appeal. It's done & over. Even Uni. I'm still friends or keep up with the people I care about, so it seems rather pointless.
Load More Replies...Why should I reunite with a group of people that were generally nasty to me?
Makes perfect sense. The reasons reunions existed was so people could meet up again and become reacquainted & find out what happened in their lives since once they left, they were gone. Now, anyone wants to stay in touch with there's what ... 6 different forms of social media to do it.
For me, the issue is that these high school reunions would likely happen on the weekend. And I just so happen to work retail on the weekend. I don't exactly feel like starting my day dealing with the public's annoying questions, only to go to a high school reunion with people who picked on me when I was in my teen years. I'd rather just go home, get a bite to eat, play video games, watch a movie/series, go to bed, and go back to work the next day.
This is another thing that I've heard of many times on American TV and movies, I assumed that that 20 or 25 years after high school that I would be getting a notification about my high school reunion, I don't think that they had one. I asked a few people, they said they hadn't heard. So I guess maybe it's not a thing
It’s a thing. It’s not a thing that everybody does. It doesn’t automatically happen. If nobody organizes it, it doesn’t happen.
Load More Replies...People who peaked at High School *need* reunions and will keep organizing them
We were curious about what it is that gives traditions longevity. Dr. Geher shed some light on this question. "Traditions that stick around and have longevity are essentially selected by cultural evolutionary processes. At some point, someone figured out that giving children gifts for Christmas was something that put smiles on a lot of faces and created lots of connections between members of family and friend groups," he said.
"So, gift-giving as part of the holiday tradition was selected, in this case. The concept of rebirth and new beginnings is something that seems to exist in all cultures. And various forms of new year celebrations, which often include gatherings of people who are close to one another, maintain social connections in very important ways. Given the fact that we are a highly social ape, processes that cultivate and amplify social connections will naturally be selected," Dr. Geher said, adding that he wishes all the readers of Bored Panda a happy end of year and holiday season.
I might get some pushback for this, but gender reveal parties are probably not gonna disappear, but they're gonna go back to the low-key innocent things like slicing into a cake to find out if it's pink or blue. Or something else might add to it where after the gender is revealed they could also do a name reveal. Either that or I might be overthinking. Lol.
I'm sure I am in the minority, but the gender of a baby is unimportant to me unless there is a genetic need to know. To see people in essence trying to preplan a child's life from the colour of clothes and the gender-themed toys they purchase is depressing. We are (in my most humble opinion) already too stuck in our notions of gender.
It's really the cupcakes we want. Give us cupcakes and we'll pretend we care if the candy inside is pink or blue.
Load More Replies...I never understood what y'all have against the low key ones. It doesn't hurt any thing and people enjoy them.
I don't think there's anything wrong with how it used to be done. It was very understated, perhaps there might be balloons or a cake and the focus was celebrating a new baby. Today, it's like a full on Broadway production with sound & lighting, and people not giving a damn who or what they destroy, as long as all of Insta & TikTok (who don't care) sees it. It's not even about the baby, it's a great big "look at me!" by the parents.
Load More Replies...They are a relatively new fad that I think will fade away. Even the most involved people don't want to waste 3 hours on a Sat for something that could be a text message. Typical exchange. "Bob and Sue are having a girl." "Nice. Have you seen my car keys?"
Operator: you've received a collect call from "momanddadwejusthadababyandit'saboy" do you want to accept the charges?
Load More Replies...I really hope gender reveal parties disappear. There's nothing wrong with using ultrasound as part of prenatal care, to find out what the gender of the baby will be. That's okay to know, although It's unnecessary (it's not like you need to have a certain color for the clothing and bedding of your baby depending on what little dangly bit may or may not be hanging between their legs). In this day and age where we are supposed to be more accepting of all people of all genders, it just seems like a really weird thing to make such a big deal out of.
GENITAL reveal parties. You don't know the person's gender until they grow up. The first kid (the idiot parents did this about) is Non-Binary, they do not have a gender.
Mischief night. The reason why is because we all have phones now so causally vandalizing someone's house with eggs and toilet paper could be filmed and well you know the rest.
I don't know how much it was talked about and how much it actually happened but in the '80s, growing up, my mom was really nervous about the night before Halloween night, which is called "cabbage night" AKA devil's night AKA mischief night etc. When I was a kid it meant that teenagers would smash pumpkins, tear down decorations, toilet paper trees, soap car windows, and the thing my mom was most concerned about was there was stories of people doing terrible things to animals, particularly black cats. So we always took a lot of precautions although we were fortunate, nothing ever happened (and I'm going back 40 years that I can personally remember). I make a habit to adopt black feral cats who I've befriended over the summer, before October 30th. (Just in case.) In the past 15 years I've adopted six black cats on October 30th. As a result they've all gotten Halloween themed names
SO glad that "Devil's Night in" Detroit is no longer a thing. (Arson all over the city, burning abandoned buildings)
With the price of eggs and toilet paper these days, who can afford it? 😉🤭 I've never participated in TP-ing a house (it was usually the trees that got hit), but I do know it was almost impossible to clean up if it rained on the "decorations."
We usually did this to our close friends whose parents wouldn't let them come to the party or school dance.
American here. We did all the mischievous stuff as teenagers on Halloween. It usually stopped when you got your drivers license and could actually go to parties. Never did the actual smashing of stuff (Blew stuff up with firecrackers, tp/egged houses and did the bologna thing on a car once(Dude was a duche). The 80's were a fun time... but now. Hell no. My kid really did nothing of the sort, as far as I know, and you rarely see tp'd houses etc anymore. We grew up in the woods around Chicago.. Ding dong ditching and lighting the porch up with fireworks from the parameter, was one of my fav's... LOL..
I'd never heard of this, surprised to see that it's apparently (re:wiki) an English thing. Where was it when I was growing up in England (edit: about 50 years ago)?
Not anywhere in England where I've been for the last 62 years.
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May Day is mostly already dead, but in 25 years forget it. People won't even remember it was a thing.
I am talking about the tradition of making up a small basket of goodies and leaving it on a friend's doorstep, ringing the bell and then hiding. This was a thing still in the 70s/80s when I was growing up, but I don't know any kids anymore that do this.
I didn't know about that tradition, I thought May Day was all about dancing around the maypole
Or marching alongside guided missiles in Red Square
Load More Replies...Here May 1st is a holiday, being our Labor Day and the tradition is to offer muguet (lily of the valley) to your loved ones.
France, I assume. That's where I met this particular custom.
Load More Replies...Yeah when I've heard of the term mayday, aside from thinking about an SOS call that's given out over the radio ("mayday mayday")... I thought it had something to do with dancing around a may pole. Which I wouldn't have a clue what that is but according to illustration, looks like it's a long pole with four long ribbons and four kids walk around the pole until the pole is covered in ribbon. I don't know. It's one of those things you'd have to look up. But I've never heard of this tradition of leaving baskets of goodies at friend's doors as a treat. That's kind of cute isn't it?
Mayfair in London gets its name from the May holiday as there was a field there where they would hold the May Fayre.
We did this in the 60s with May Day baskets. I'm glad to see it was still going on in the 80s. It was fun and if I had kids, I would keep this tradition up. Edit to add: My mom was German from a German community, so I have no idea where she got this from. This was in Minnesota.
From a purely economic perspective, traditions are great for business. The more widely celebrated and the more hyped up, the better. It’s no secret that people tend to spend way more money around the holidays, and many companies rely on these consumer habits to make a profit and stay in business.
Investopedia notes that American consumer spending on gifts and other holiday expenses has increased every year since 2009. This trend is expected to continue throughout this year, too. It’s estimated that US consumers will spend between $979.5 billion and $989 billion on holiday-related things in 2024, compared to $955.6 billion back in 2023.
Meanwhile, the author of the interesting online thread, u/Extreme-Routine3822, was kind enough to share a few thoughts of their own.
We were curious to get their insights on which holidays are likely to stand the test of time the best over the next few decades.
"I think something that brings people closer together will last for a long time," they told Bored Panda. In their opinion, it's holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving that have the best chances of surviving.
Black Friday, at least in the traditional sense of being lined up out the store and waiting with a bunch of people for it to open, thanks to it being extended to last all weekend now or even longer and online shopping.
How old is the Black Friday thing anyway? Surely no more than 20 years or so? (The shops keep trying to "make it a thing" in Australia too, even through we don't celebrate Thanksgiving ...)
Black Friday has a long history initially referring to stock market crashes in the late 19thC. In the 1950s it was used to describe workforce absenteeism after Thanksgiving, particularly in retail where short-staffed stores struggled to cope with post-holiday shoppers. By the 1980s it was seen as the the start of the Christmas shopping season, and the increase in sales that this brought was said to be the day the stores finances switched from being in the red to being in the black.
Load More Replies...Good riddance in my opinion. Made (US) the laughingstock of the world. Rabid consumerism is not a good look.
I don't participate in Black Friday. Haven't in decades. Easier to start shopping during the year. If you have worked retail you know that some of the " deals" aren't really deals.. Some " markdowns" are not really sales. Anyway why stand in line for hours for " deals' I get done early and don't bother with crowds
Block Parties. i don’t think they even do them anymore.
I am also from America and we had an annual block party every year while I was growing up in the early 90's.
Load More Replies...Is this like when all the people living in a street do a big meal together ? Because if it is, I love it ! In my town my street is the only one who does that, we celebrated the 10 years and had our picture in the local newspaper !
Somewhere in the sixties, street parties existed in my city (Budapest), as I was told.
We used to have street parties in the 60s in UK, usually for some national celebration like royal weddings. I suppose the streets had less traffic then. We had some street parties in cul de sacs for the anniversary of VE day
Load More Replies...I think this is another American thing... I've never heard of a block party in real life. I think it's like a communal yard sale in so much that a representative goes around to all the houses in an area, (a block... Typically that might be between 5 and 10 houses on each side of the street, maybe as many as 40-80 houses depending on how inclusive your block is) and they have a big communal barbecue and neighborhood party. At least that's what I think it is. Like a tailgating party but at home, and no sports game.
I'm from a smaller town in Europe and there are so called "alley parties" where the neighbors of a little street just put out benches and tables (all together in one area), everyone brings their own booze and food, and people just come by, sometimes there's friends of neighbors coming
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I just went to the 50 year reunion of my wife's high school class.
There were maybe 40 people, of whom many, like me, didn't attend.
I think we stayed for under 30 minutes.
I'm in that age bracket and haven't attended a single one of my reunions
Load More Replies...Just had the 50 year('74) in our 100 yr old school prior to my retirement from the district. Kinda cool seeing those folks you vaguely remember.
I drove for two days to get to my 50th reunion, the first one I ever attended. I stayed for about twenty minutes and left. I'll never attend another one.
Err... "I just went" and "many, like me, didn't attend". Did you or didn't you? Or didn't you learn what "attend" means?
We asked the internet user, given how much consumers tend to spend during the holidays, whether it's still possible to enjoy the festivities without splurging too much.
"I think the most important thing about holidays is the inner peace that people get from it," they said.
"So, money is not that important, but as festivals come very rarely, we tend to celebrate it extravagantly."
I feel like the days of private fireworks are wanning. The fire danger, injury, impact to pets, etc. Maybe they'll never go to zero but I think it will be on the margins. There might be an increase of professional shows, with the role of drones increasing.
I wish! Neighbour a few doors up had fireworks last night. Airbombs the lot. Youngest dog was shaking with fear cuddled up to me. The oldest was barking through the window, another was at the bottom of the garden barking. Only the oldest slept on. The harm these horrible things do to wildlife, livestock as well as people is appalling. Friend of a friend has a horse. She slept in his stable this weekend.
Fireworks hurt animals, hurt people with PTSD, with migraines, etc. If they were silent it would be tolerable, but the noise is solely to be obnoxious. (Cue the ash sole whining "let people enjoy things..." while ignoring people wanting a pain-free life.)
I like the pretty ones but dislike the noisy ones, I don't see the point
Load More Replies...Not in Ohio. We have a law now that states that you can set them off privately almost anytime you want. I live in the far north east section of the state in a medium sized town and we heard them from May-August starting at 5:00pm,-2:00am and the police said there was nothing they could do. They were also going off during the full eclipse on April 8th. A peaceful Christmas is out of the question as well. UGGG!! I hate this law!!!
Nah, it's illegal where I live but the entire week of the fourth of July our neighbors out preform the town show. Even the cops roll with them.
In Niagara Falls canada, although it does change a little from year to year depending on what citizens actions group speak up... We have fireworks that are put off by Niagara Parks commission / city of Niagara Falls minimum of twice a week 52 weeks a year, and I forget what year it was, it was maybe 5 or 6 years ago I think, where they had fireworks every night. Every night. And yes, we have little kids sleeping and we have dogs and cats who don't like this, we have many many birds in the Niagara gorge and the Niagara region some of them endangered, and you know darn well they don't like this. If it was only for special occasions it wouldn't be so bad. But they're not even good firework displays. Mostly reds and greens a few gold, the cheap stuff. Usually lasting 5 minutes. But that's 5 minutes multiple times per week. Ugh. You can literally set your watch, bang bang bang. Oh must be 10:00. (Unless it's not because sometimes they set them off at 8:00 or 9:00)
They should demand some kind of safety course before selling them to individuals. There are nice responsible people, but there are so much more thoughtless idiots having a fight with Roman Candles.
nah, just forbid sale alltogether and be done with it
Load More Replies...That's, unfortunately, probably not going to happen. The state I live in, fireworks aren't even legal, but all summer long there are people randomly setting them off. In the middle of a city. It was the worst right after people got their covid checks. It was all night long, for months. I felt like I was going crazy from the lack of sleep. The police don't even try to stop it.
There is only one state (I think) in Australia you can legally buy them, not the one I live in, but there ones set off randomly near me at least three times a year, not including New Years.
Columbus Day is probably on its way out.
Columbus day was created as a day for Italian-American heritage, and was created at a time when Italian-Americans were targeted by the KKK and White Supremacist groups as "not real Americans" and Columbus was their way of saying they were here from the start. It is used to celebrate Italian-American heritage and culture. The KKK were the original people who opposed it, and still today the KKK and White Supremacist leaders like David Duke want it to go away. One of a few issues the White Supremacists and the Far left align on. Doing away with it shows a lack of understanding Italian-American heritage and history. And if you want for Native-Americans, people trying to rename it indigenous people day, the entire month of November is Native American History Month, and by federal law the day after Thanksgiving is Native American Heritage Day already. This is not on its way out as Italian-Americans will defend it
I'm Italian-American. I don't celebrate Columbus in any way, shape, or form. He never touched any US soil whatsoever, and didn't even sail for Italy. Get over yourself.
Load More Replies...Not sure why you’re being downvoted as you’re correct.
Load More Replies...It's really hard to get public holidays changed (at least in Australia). Despite many protests the government here won't change the date of Australia Day, which is also known as Invasion Day because it symbolises the day in became colonised by the English. They won't even do a referendum to get the true numbers of support for the change.
As long as they make it some kind of holiday--good riddance to calling it Columbus Day. We could 1) Rename it and make it Indigenous Peoples Day; 2) Make it our election day (and give EVERYBODY the day off to vote); or 3) follow Canada's example and do Thanksgiving that day. Having Thanksgiving in the middle of the work week SUCKS.
I was surprised this year, (I don't keep up with all American News... I don't even keep up with all the news of my own country)... To find that Columbus Day is now also called indigenous peoples day in the usa.
No it is not. Only 2 states gave it that as an additional alternative name, no other state nor the federal government does so. It is still called Columbus Day. However the Federal Govt considers the day after Thanksgiving Native-American Heritage Day, to cap off the end of Native American Heritage Month
Load More Replies...well the federal government renamed it indigenous people's day...so that is a major step to death
I'm really afraid it's going to be trick-or-treating in your neighborhood!! Since that trend took off where parents just park their vans at a church or some s**t, I almost never see it. I bought a house in the cutest little neighborhood and was SO excited for the kids to come by last year, and I didn't get a single one! There's a lot of kids in my neighborhood too, I see them all the time. I was so disappointed. I miss small communities.
In my little village in France the parents from surrounding communities bring their children to the centre of our town, which is near the château (castle). They have a haunted house tour that starts out not very scary for the little ones and every hour they increase the age of the children and the scariness of the tour. The local businesses in town hand out candy to the children. I was thrilled to be able to hand out candy ("des bonbons ou un sort") at one of the cafés this year, and we had about 1,000 children. It has been the highlight of my year the past several years. This year they also had booths for food and such. A true delight!
I'm glad trick or treating isn't a big thing in the UK. However we have bonfire night which is much worse certainly for 3 of my dogs.
It's already started in my neck of the woods and it distresses my cat out to no end. Will be glad when it's over.
Load More Replies...My neighborhood used to get kids bussed in. Church busses, vans full of kids with two adults, it was kinda nice and fun. Since the lockdown, just deadness. And so many houses with porch lights off, not participating.
The opposite is happening in Australia. It has become more popular to trick or treat.
I could tell it was on its way out when communities would announce things like "Trick-or-Treating will take place between 4 and 6 pm" or "We know Halloween is on Tuesday, but our neighborhood will have Trick-or-Treating on Sunday afternoon." Because 1) you can't just move the day you celebrate Halloween, and 2) you can't Trick-or-Treat during daylight hours -- that ruins all the fun of it. Glad I grew up when I did.
I am a child of the 80s, and at least in my experience trick or treating peaked around 1986. There were maybe three-four years that were just like in the movies: streets full of costumed kids, house after house participating.
In my little country/suburb town east of Paris, there's quite à lot of trick-and-treating going out for Halloween, though it's a totally imported custom. We had two of our grandkids and my husband took them out for the door-to-door, while I staid home to dish out sweets. About 50 kids came begging throughout the evening, I nearly went out of sweets.
Just because your house doesn't get trick or treaters doesn't mean it isn't happening. Trunk or treats should be especially attractive to people who want trick or treaters, but don't live in a neighborhood that gets them. Besides, you know you can do both trunk or treat , and trick or treat. There is no law against doing both. This trunk or treat pearl clutching is much ado about nothing.
You’ve probably noticed retailers and businesses offering holiday-themed products earlier and earlier each year. It’s not just your imagination—it’s all very much a real phenomenon. CNN reports that retailers are tricking consumers to spend more by rolling out Halloween earlier. To be fair, many Americans love this earlier marketing, happy to get a head start on their spooky shopping. At least for now. You never know when this strategy might backfire if taken too far.
Meanwhile, Xmas ‘creep’ is very real, too. An analysis conducted by the Guardian shows that there is a “slow and steady takeover of the calendar by Christmas-themed items, songs, and adverts.” At least in the United Kingdom. All those memes about Mariah Carey’s voice being heard all over town earlier and earlier each year are frightfully true.
Trick or treating is being replaced by “trunk or treat”, which is incredibly lame and makes me sad. Maybe there will be a resurgence but as of now it does appear to be dying.
edit: please stop telling me about your neighborhood where this isn’t the case, the fact that something that used to be ubiquitous is now only happening in like half the country is still a sign of a dying tradition, please stop being pedants.
I'd only first heard of "trunk or treat" maybe five or six years ago, and I thought, is this a typo? I was doing a driving road trip across the usa, and Americans really love halloween! I got to say, Americans are some of the most interesting people I've ever met, and boy oh boy do they ever get into their holidays and have some amazing creative ideas!! And I kept seeing these advertisements in towns for trunk or treating. Yeah I figured it out. You decorate your car you bring your car to an approved safe parking lot, you register who's going to be there so everybody knows who's there, and the kids are only allowed to go to the ones who are registered, like trick or treating but in a much smaller supervised area instead of wandering around neighborhoods to different people's houses. I get it. It makes sense. But as someone who used to be able to trick or treat through residential neighborhoods as a kid, it is kind of sad. What traditions change, and this is better than nothing
I agree. Trunk or treat is lame. It's NO substitute for real trick or treating in the neighborhood on Oct. 31 (not the weekend closest!) after dark, in a costume. Being a kid today sounds like being under house arrest. I'm glad I was a kid in the 70s and 80s.
Yes! If it doesn't take place after dark, it ain't Trick-or-Treating.
Load More Replies...It started because of the fake "razors in the candy" scare in the late 70's and 80's. It' been debunked, but people won't believe it, so they won't let their kids do normal trick-or-treating, but will let them do organized trick-or-trunking through schools, or churches.
I've taken the kids to a few trunk or treats and they were nice. Each car went all out setting up their cars into mini haunted houses.
I loved trick or treating in the 60s. Us kids would start planning our campaign days ahead of time, mapping out the neighborhood and trying to hit every house without having to repeat a block. We'd stop and take rest breaks and eat some of our candy. Occasionally we'd pass by our houses, go in and dump our loot (lots of candy gets heavy to haul around), and then set off again. At 9 or 10, the house lights would start to go off and we'd finally go home. When I was in my 30s, someone asked me to go with them and their little girl. Naturally, I had to dress up my dog and bring him along. He carried a little plastic pumpkin. Unfortunately for me, he got mostly dog biscuits. *sigh* Yean, me and my friends were supreme little beggars. But you just can't replicate this fun going store to store downtown in just 20 minutes. I feel sorry for the kids today with overprotective parents.
I used to really enjoy going to polling places on election day and say hello to neighbors who also were there to vote, and the poll workers who were usually the older retirees in the neighborhood. They typically knew everyone by name, and they'd ask about kids, etc.
For the past few elections (especially since Covid) this is no longer the case. I miss it!
Close but no cigar, BP. That's an Australian Electoral Commission sign
I'm glad. Australia actually knows how to do democracy correctly, unlike the clusterfork that is the US system.
Load More Replies...As we are on the subject. Will be thinking of all you Americans tomorrow (5th November) hope you get the results you want.
I think the results we want are for both Harris and Trump to fall into a coma for the next four years.
Load More Replies...I would have to think of recent elections, especially this year's, you don't want to be loitering around outside the polling stations (even if your intentions are just to say hi to your neighbors). I think that security on all levels is going to be high this year.
Even places that have gone strictly to vote by mail (IE: Washington) still have polling places. Not everyone has a fixed address so each county still has at least two places to vote
Wow! At least two per county, you say? I really cannot understand why so many Americans whine about it getting harder to vote. Yes, sarcasm, from a tiny country that manages to provide nearly 31,000 polling stations for elections. That's an average of one station per three square miles.
Load More Replies...The way things are in the U.S. now, I'd be cautious of hanging around any area where people on the other political side tend to congregate. I don't want to get shot.
I am so glad we aren't questioned about why you are pre-polling in Australia now. Crowds are 10x less. Even postal votes my brother did last election and he didn't have to prove why he needed that. I don't think they will cancel election day altogether though because many people do still prefer it and it would make pre-polling more crowded.
Just became a (US) election inspector and worked this past August primary. It IS nice to see those around the Township. Looking forward to tomorrow, oddly enough.
Thank you cards. They are a pain in the and can simply be handled with a text or just saying thanks next time you see the person.
I know I never if I dont get one.
I think "thank yous"" in general are on the decline... Whether they be written and posted, emailed, or verbally given and that is just a real shame. If someone has shown you a kindness or consideration, you should take the time to thank them.
If someone took the time and effort to give you a gift, surely you could take five minutes to write and send a thank you card/letter. Common courtesy and manners should never become "extinct ".
Saying thank you once in any form is plenty to satisy manners. Someone shouldn't be expected to say it more than once.
Load More Replies...Which holidays and traditions are your favorite, dear Pandas? Which ones do you expect not only to survive but also to thrive in the future?
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Are bake sales still a thing? I think those are gonna be goners. People barely have time to cook for themselves and groceries are ridiculously expensive. I personally hear the words "bake sale" and quietly slink away.
The older I get the more concerned I get about the how clean the bakers' kitchens are and did they wash their hands???
Bake sales used to be such a big thing didn't they? School bake sales and church bake sales? I'm surprised, with things the way they are today (various allergies/ required to label all ingredients / condition of the kitchen in which they were prepared/etc) that they're even allowed.
Some still do fundraising things outside the local market...sports, band, etc..
The preschool I worked at 4 years ago had one. They did it at Bunnings (the hardware store that is called Hammer Barn on Bluey) next to the traditional sausage sizzle others use for fundraising. Someone from my church ran a 'canteen' at a stamp and coin expo a few weeks ago that sold tea and coffee along with baked goods made by church members. They raised about $200 I think.
We had one of these as a fundraiser for parties at my workplace this year. The company reimbursed costs. We sold cupcakes, cookies, etc. Skimpflation has cake mixes only making 19 cupcakes instead of 24, and the cost of mix/eggs/butter/icing powder/food colouring basically meant we made 30% profit. Basically 8 people baked a ton of stuff and inflation meant we made about $120 profit trying to make enough for a party for 200+ people. They're just not worth it anymore
We have them at work several times a year for various charities. There's never any left...
I think it's already started to disappear but sending Christmas cards.
I hope "greeting cards" of all kinds go the way of the dodo soon-including "thank you" cards. A call, a text, or an email should be sufficient instead of a piece of cardboard that's just going to be tossed anyway.
College homecoming celebrations. When I was a student the homecoming parade was a BIG deal, as were the other events surrounding it. Great time to be in Greek Life!
This past Saturday was our school's homecoming, and there was *nothing*. A group of alumni met at a favorite college bar for a little while, but it was just a group of guys who graduated in the 80's/early 90's. My little bro and I went to the house and ran into 2 actives--most had gone home for the weekend. No parties, just a normal, quiet Saturday afternoon.
The university canceled the floats (and soon after, the entire parade) years ago. COVID killed the rest of the social events surrounding homecoming. It's all very dead, and feels so surreal...
What is "homecoming" actually supposed to be? And why is it meant to be such a big deal? Also why are fraternity and sorority houses such a big deal?
It was originally a celebration welcoming past alumni to the first football game of the year at their college. Welcoming them coming "home" as it were. It quickly became popular with high schools. Then it started to expand even more into dances, pep rallys, etc. For a long time there were also parades. Really, it was the first school spirit celebration of the school year so people went all out. And it basically morphed from that alumni thing into a school spirit thing.
Load More Replies...I'll try to answer a few of these questions from the US perspective: 1. We typically use "College" and "University" interchangeably, although it is most common to refer to any formal schooling after high school as "College." However, definitionally, Universities are generally larger than colleges, have more resources, and conduct higher-end research. I am a graduate of The Ohio State University, but in conversation, I generally say, "I went to college." 2. Homecoming is a celebration that is geared toward welcoming alumni back to their Alma Mater, coming "Back Home" as it were. Homecoming is usually centered around the football game, because, as you know, college football is VERY BIG here in the states, particularly at a school like my Alma Mater. At Homecoming, we get to see friends we made years ago and re-live some of those good times. (To Be Continued)
As a Canadian who attended both Canadian University and Canadian college (side point, that's another weird thing, it seems to me that the word "college" is used interchangeably for University and college in the US); the only time I've ever heard of "homecoming" was on American TV and American movies.*edit: also, sororities and fraternities. I can't speak for the rest of canada, or every university, but none of mine ever had them.
3. As for Fraternities and Sororities, depending on where you matriculated, those organizations were the center of social life at the school. They were responsible for most of the parties and connections that you made. Many of the lifelong memories that some of us have of college revolve around fraternity and sorority life. One other point about that: I am a member of one of the 9 Historically Black Fraternities and Sororities (Often called the Divine 9, or D9, for short). Particularly, for those of us who went to predominantly White Institutions (PWI), Black Greek life was essential as the cultural touchstone for us. Even those who did not join one of the organizations, often depended on us for entertainment, social activism, and a sense of community.
I went to ASU (Go Sun Devils and Sparky!) But went to night school and skipped sororities and all of that, had to work during the day, but yes, to all of the football. Jake the Snake took us to the Rose Bowl!
Load More Replies...I had no interest in those things. The good thing about it were the pep rallies. We could skip class/ pep rallies easier when theres a lot going on.
Memorial Day, fewer and fewer people are actually going out and decorating graves.
Americans have both memorial Day (May) and veterans Day (Nov) which, I thought was redundant but also not because they do honor two different things. In Canada we have remembrance Day (nov.11) which pays tribute to current active military members but also those who have sacrificed themselves to serve our country to protect our freedom. It's a quiet moment of reflection and paying thanks. You don't have to glorify the military or war, in order to be thankful to those who gave so much to protect your way of life.
We live opposite the church, and go to the remembrance in the churchyard by the war memorial. It's good to remember
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Agriculture based school year. In favor of a year round with quarterly breaks. Some parts of the country have already done this. I would expect more to follow. Possibly based on the new typical weather patterns & school setup in the local region.
Maybe some places get a longer break during hurricane season. Others during the Nor Easter season. Others based on the peak heat or main employer in the area.
Of course that assumes we still have a department of education in 25 years. I hope not but I suppose public schools could be a thing of the past altogether depending on how things go next month.
I will say that the long summer break isn't actually based on agriculture. Farmers are busy in spring planting and fall harvest. During the summer its normal and the plants just need to do their thing. Summer break started in cities where people who could afford to leave during the heat pre AC did so and took their kids with them.
Regarding the last part, Batshit Betsy did her best as head of DOE to destroy the system. Her goal was to institute a theocratic system. Hope summer breaks keep up as only a small portion of our 100 yr old building has AC, and late August through (even) late Sept is warm in a 3 story building.
I like how we do it in Australia. The school year is broken up into 4 terms. Some states may start/finish their terms at different times but it still works out the same. Here's an example. 1st term is 29th Jan to 12th April, then we have a 2 week break. 2nd term is 29th Apr to 5th July, followed by another 2 week break. 3rd term is 22nd July to 27th September with another 2 week break. Term 4 is 14th Oct to 15th December with a 6 week break. Each term usually goes for 10 weeks and a total of 12 weeks of holidays in the year.
I wish something like this would come to the US. It makes much more sense than what we do now.
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This is more state specific, but hopefully Robert E Lee's birthday, Jefferson Davis' birthday, and Columbus Day.
Literally only 2 states celebrate Robert E Lee's Birthday, Alabama and Mississippi. Though Florida does have something on the calendar still, but all govt offices are open and nothing is shut down. And only 3 states for Jefferson Davis Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas though Texas calls it something else to memorialize the confederate dead (since 1931). Columbus day was created as a day for Italian-American heritage, and was created at a time when Italian-Americans were targeted by the KKK and White Supremacist groups as "not real Americans" and Columbus was their way of saying they were here from the start. It is used to celebrate Italian-American heritage and culture. The KKK were the original people who opposed it, and still today the KKK and White Supremacist leaders like David Duke want it to go away. One of a few issues the White Supremacists and the Far left align on. Doing away with it shows a lack of understanding Italian-American heritage and history
And if you want for Native-Americans, people trying to rename it indigenous people day, the entire month of November is Native American History Month, and by federal law the day after Thanksgiving is Native American Heritage Day already.
Load More Replies...Canadian Thanksgiving is the same day as American Columbus Day and I was really surprised this year to see that it was also called indigenous peoples day. I didn't realize that had recently been changed and I thought that was really interesting. I never understood the point of Columbus day. Robert e Lee's birthday? Who celebrates that? Somebody who has a Confederate flag hanging in the back of their pickup truck cab, I assume?
Can't talk from this side of the pond with Guy Fawlkes Night. The failure of the Gunpowder Plot of 1605.
Load More Replies...I lived in Virginia and worked for the State for four years. I was surprised when I got there that there was a State Holiday to honor Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson: Lee-Jackson Day. I got the day off from work as State offices were closed. It was celebrated on the Friday before the Martin Luther King, Jr. Federal Holiday, so we got a 4-day weekend. I did a little research and it turns out that Lee-Jackson Day was a compromise for the State to recognize MLK Day as a holiday. I think they've stopped celebrating it now. (Side Note: I had a good friend named Lee Jackson, and I always gave him a shout out on that day.)
Virginia celebrated Lee-Jackson-King Day from 1984 - 2000. Then Lee-Jackson Day was a state holiday the Friday before Martin Luther King Day from 2000 - 2020. In 2020, Lee-Jackson Day was eliminated. Four years ago! The Old Southern racial traditions continue. The schools teach the war over states' rights, not the civil war. Holding onto horrible ideas from the past is pathetic.
virginia got rid of it in the early 2000s...which was too late in my esteem
Halloween will still be a thing but with Covid and hillocopter parenting, the kids today are probably the last generation to trick or treat.
A coworker of mine just posted in our team chat that in her town, only those who post in advance on Google get their houses listed as trick or treat sites. If they aren't on the map, then people don't come.
Trunk or treats are everywhere here and not just at churches, but secular things too. Our town, the state park, the womens college basketball team, the army Corp of engineers park, etc.
I think in another 20-30 years Thanksgiving and the big Thanksgiving dinner won't be so much of a thing but it's still going strong now. That would make me sad because it's my favorite meal of the year and I love the Harvest season.
Our town closed Main Street to cars, stores and organizations had tables set up with treats, and costumed families came from everywhere to trick or treat. We went to watch, it was amazing! Walking up and down Main Street was enough trick or treating for anyone. It was from 3:00 to 5:00, daylight hours here.
My block only has about five kids. All the other families are adults and older teens.
Easter. It seems to be that many nonchristians worldwide do celebrate Christmas, but not Easter. It was once a much bigger holiday in the western nations. Perhaps some kind of spring holiday, generic, will replace it.
Shhh...don't tell Walmart. Next to Halloween, it's the biggest candy day they have. (LOVE me some malted milk eggs)
In Aus, Easter egg hunts are a common tradition ( gotta do it early before they melt though) followed by a lunch/get together. Camping is also high on the list.
Many towns here organize an Easter egg chase for young kids... and many parents and grandparents hide eggs in the garden or in the house.
We'll do the bunny thing. But once my Catholic parents pass I don't think it will be much of a family get together holiday like it is now.
Since it's a specifically religious holiday....if you live in a country that's (supposed to be) secular...giving it official government recognition would be problematic. But people who are religious are welcome to make a huge big deal out of it, if they want to. And I think employers and schools should be flexible around religious holidays.
I teach in a predominantly hispanic region of the United States, and my students were baffled that I actually do something for Saint Patrick's Day. They had never even heard of corned beef and cabbage.
Why would they tho, if they are Hispanic? Not every culture celebrates a different culture's traditions.
Because lots of Hispanic cultures celebrate Catholic saints. Not everyone understands that even if the religion is shared, the culture is different
Load More Replies...to be honest with you, even Ireland itself doesn't celebrate Saint Patricks day the way america does, lmao. (maybe in Dublin, Cork, etc, they might for tourist kinda reasons, but in smaller towns, definitely not. In fact, traditionally, pubs used to be CLOSED on st patricks day...)
In the US, St Patrick's Day seem to be just another excuse to get drunk, except you can dress in a lot of green if you want. Or dye the Chicago River water bright green like they do in Chicago, Illinois. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oh it’s pretty big here, I think because a lot of Chicagoans like to pretend they’re first generation Irish or something.
Load More Replies...My wife loves the Irish soda bread her mom makes. I'll keep my opinion to myself 😉
Load More Replies...A lot of Canadians came from "British roots" (not so much in the last 25 years as our immigration patterns have changed tremendously, but let's just throw a date out there let's just say from 1900 to 2000), perhaps particularly reflected in the population of Ontario. Did we have a lot of people come from ireland? Heck yeah. So "St Patrick's Day" is a thing. Although to have an entire countries history reduced to "wearing green, and reducing your culinary background to beer / whiskey / corned beef / cabbage / potatoes" is ignorant.
As strange as it sounds to some people, I think Easter is one that's going/gone except for religious Christian people. This may also be true in Canada as when I was up there in April for the eclipse, I was asked how I spent 'the long weekend' (they get Good Friday & Easter Monday off) so everyone must just take it to just be a few extra days off from work. In the US we never officially had Easter Monday off so that weekend feels more like any other spring weekend to me.
Easter won't die as long as there are Christians. It the most important day of the year. Having Good Friday and Easter Monday off doesn't change anything.
The thing with me is that I haven't really had a traditional Easter since before the pandemic. And once the pandemic started to be less prominent (vaccination rates going up), I stopped really doing Easter get togethers with my family, mostly because a convention I go to always happens around Easter. Not only that, but Easter is never the same time of year.
No mandated US holiday on Good Friday, though many employers allow those who wish to attend service to do so(1/2 day) no harm, no foul on attendance.
If you let go of Easter, the TRUE meaning of Christmas can not be to far behind.
The fairy story of the manger and all that twaddle you mean?
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Two things actually.
1) Weddings ,or atleast large weddings. My older sister got married in a small room in city hall, and my twin sister had a small backyard wedding( though, that one was due to covid). Alot of americans are either too strapped for cash , or are starting to see the wedding itself as less important (and that is IF we get married).
2)Not a holiday, but a tradition. Traveling to family for holidays.When I was younger, on my mother's side, we used to travel to my aunts or uncles houses for thanks giving. Even when we had to drive for 2 days to do it. Once my mom hosted and the family came to celebrated with us. The only reason it wasn't the same with my dad side was because he is from Costa Rica, thanksgiving being an american holiday, him and his family didn't really celebrate often.But the last few thanksgivings ,I didn't really travel. Even after covid,my mom and I just celebrated with a friend of hers, and the friend's husband. Both of wich had adult kids who also didn't come to celebrate with them.Even for Christmas and New Years, I can't remeber the last time i travled to celebrate with family. I think ,again, it has to do with cash. While driving is a common and cheapest way to travel in the US, you still need to save up, especially since people are moving further and further away for work. And unless you have paid time off, only the day of the holiday is given off (if it's a federally recognized holiday. and alot of people can't afford days off without pay.Regardless of the means of travel , you need time to travel.And given how few Americans are haveing kids (most of those who have kids tending to keep it small with 1-3) we may have fewer family to travel to. If we could afford it.
Whoever posted that seems to think his or her personal experience is the same as everyone else.
My wife and I stopped traveling for Tgiving about 10 years ago, and that's possibly the best decision we've ever made together. (*Eyes kids suspiciously.*) I get two days off from work, it's the worst time to travel, and Tgiving itself is a looong day of work and stepping on others' toes. It's much more manageable at home, where I can do all the cooking and cleaning in a way that makes sense.
If Bored Panda posts are to believed, ostentatious weddings are very much still a thing.
As much as I can’t stand to go to a wedding, unfortunately, I think we are stuck with them for a while.
If I ever remarry, it will be a courthouse or city hall wedding. As for visiting relatives: my immediate family members live in Alabama. Since my dad is too old to travel, I go there once a year to see him. Once we lose Dad, I'm never setting foot in that godsforgotten place again. If my brother wants to see me, he can damn well come to where I am.
I am seeing a trend with my family and friends where small weddings are the thing. I know that isn't everyone experience, but even a lot of 20 somethings that I work with are having smaller weddings and saving money.
"29 American Traditions That Might Go Extinct" If things go horrendously wrong tomorrow you can add a 30th tradition to this list - democracy.
Great. Now do a post on American traditions that will go from strength to strength. Like tipping and active shooter drills
And serially abusing and misusing the English language.
Load More Replies...One tradition that needs to die in yankland but isn't is fanatical religion. In many countries, COVID-19 forced people to stay home instead of church on Sundays. After isolation ended, many people never went back. They liked the free time on Sunday and not wasting money giving it to a cult. Dozens of cult buildings permanently closed across Ireland and the UK after 2021. Unfortunately, the yanks and South Koreans kept performing cult practices, which cause mass contagion events of C-19.
Here in Montreal they've taken to developing the big stone churches into apartment buildings. One near my house had a side cut out of it so they could expand a bit. They got 60 affordable apartments out of the thing. A much better use than it's former days as a cult center
Load More Replies...The title is now "29 American tradition that might go extinct" so someone on the BP staff must have read your comment.
Load More Replies..."29 American Traditions That Might Go Extinct" If things go horrendously wrong tomorrow you can add a 30th tradition to this list - democracy.
Great. Now do a post on American traditions that will go from strength to strength. Like tipping and active shooter drills
And serially abusing and misusing the English language.
Load More Replies...One tradition that needs to die in yankland but isn't is fanatical religion. In many countries, COVID-19 forced people to stay home instead of church on Sundays. After isolation ended, many people never went back. They liked the free time on Sunday and not wasting money giving it to a cult. Dozens of cult buildings permanently closed across Ireland and the UK after 2021. Unfortunately, the yanks and South Koreans kept performing cult practices, which cause mass contagion events of C-19.
Here in Montreal they've taken to developing the big stone churches into apartment buildings. One near my house had a side cut out of it so they could expand a bit. They got 60 affordable apartments out of the thing. A much better use than it's former days as a cult center
Load More Replies...The title is now "29 American tradition that might go extinct" so someone on the BP staff must have read your comment.
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