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Close your eyes and think about some of your favorite book and film characters, Pandas. What are they? Heroes, villains, antiheroes… or something else entirely? The beauty of enjoying entertainment through reading, art, and visual media is that you delight in the story from your own unique perspective. No one else sees and feels the story and characters quite like you do. The words and visuals resonate with you in a distinctive way.
However, some people firmly believe that there is an overwhelmingly ‘right way’ to interpret popular stories and characters. The crowd over on r/AskReddit feels that people generally tend to idolize way too many fictional characters without ‘getting’ the entire ‘point’ of their stories. From The Joker to Light Yagami and beyond, these redditors think that these characters deserve no sympathy at all.
Scroll down to see which fictional characters they singled out and why they believe nobody should idolize them. Do you agree or disagree with their opinions, Pandas? Let us know in the comments! And if you feel like opening up to all the other readers, why not tell us who you look up to for inspiration in media and why?
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#1
Not a character, but as a South American, it is disgusting how drug lords are being venerated due to some media about them that have come out in recent times, especially the series Narcos.
There are people tattooing the image of Pablo Escobar! A genocina son of a b***h who is responsible for the murder of thousands of people, created a civil war for pure economic interest and only now is Colombia resurrecting the s**t that this man did. It's like getting a tattoo of Hitler.
Assassin 3 years ago
Yes I agree, there are also women who love Ted Bundy and have his sick bite marks tattooed on themselves..and they have young daughters ..I would like to be there when they try explain the reasons why
Jordi Sharpe 3 years ago
I've never understood why people idolize mobster characters like that. Most of them end up dead or in jail.
DC 3 years ago
Uh, I have personally seen about 5 Hitler tattoos. On exactly the kind of people you'd expect - mindless, hairless buffs. One, OTOH, surprised me, as he was very knowledgable, well behaved, generally appeared to be a man of wealth and taste ... and then, on his back, there's a threepart consisting of an almost life-sized face of Hitler, accompanied by Goebbels and Göring.
Cathy Jo Baker 3 years ago
I teach high school Spanish, and whenever a student mentions Escobar, I stop whatever we're doing to address the fact that he is not an idol, he was an evil, evil man who killed thousands of innocent people and they had better think twice about wanting to be like him. I understand them wanting his money, but to get it the way he got it? Side note: I have only had the good fortune to visit Medellín, Colombia once, in 2017, and it is a very special city that has risen like a phoenix from the ashes. If you're interested in an underrated destination, go to Colombia and visit Medellín. Saludos, parceros!
Bored Panda got in touch with Bram Stoker Award-winning editor Doug Murano, the founder of Bad Hand Books, for a chat about villains and antiheroes. We were interested to hear his thoughts about why the audience might want to root for the 'bad guys.'
"I think we're built to relate to the thoughts and emotions villains are allowed to express, but heroes are not. We've all had times in our lives when we've felt jealousy, rage, the need for vengeance—feelings that often drive the actions of villains," he told us.
"Part of the value of indulging in fictional worlds is to give voice to the feelings we can't in real life. That's a long way to say that I think it's healthy to root for the villain sometimes. Don't feel bad about enjoying it," editor Doug said that we shouldn't feel guilty about this.
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#2
Your man Grey from the Fifty Shades books.
**Disclaimer** My flatmate had all 3 books and I read them as a method of procrastination from uni work. I also cleaned out all the kitchen cupboards, so that shows the frame of mind I was in.
Why is he seen as a wonderful, sexy, man of your dreams? He's a narcissistic misogynistic d******d. He targeted a young naive girl and groomed her for his own enjoyment.
Luke Branwen 3 years ago
If Grey was a fat slob living in a trailer, "50 Shades" would be seen as a crime novel instead of romance.
Gabriele Alfredo Pini 3 years ago
It would be an episode of Law & Order: SVU
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Babs McGurk 3 years ago
I never understood the attraction of this poorly written book. Aside from the terrible subject matter, I couldn't get past the second page due to the incredibly bad writing.
SCP-3998 3 years ago (edited)
As someone who has lived a BDSM lifestyle for a while years ago, none of what he did would have been considered SAFE, SANE OR CONSENSUAL. He never informed her of anything, traumatized her with her first scene and then manipulated her for his own enjoyment. He is EVERYTHING that is wrong with men, if it was all condensed into one character, which it was. Edit; also, I read only the 1st book and wanted to find the author and throw a fücking thesaurus at her. Its SO BADLY written. Like...insultingly so.
CalicoKitty 3 years ago
Wasn't that series originally a twilight fic or was that another weird internet rumour...?
NJJenn1673 3 years ago
It was an awful series from top to bottom - horrific writing, cardboard cutout characters. I never understood the hype.
#3
Scrolled for ages and couldn’t see anyone saying Ross and Rachel from Friends, although I guess maybe it’s fair to say that the “point” of their story wasn’t that they were absolutely toxic for each other. I remember a time in the late nineties to mid noughties when every dating profile and every MySpace page had some variation of “I’m just a Rachel Green looking for her Ross Geller”. Despite the fact that Ross was a gas-lighting, possessive, jealous wanker and Rachel was a needy, stuck-up, indecisive user of people and the only one who had the balls to tell her so was Hugh Laurie in a cameo. And she clearly didn’t listen because she just kept getting worse and worse after that.
Wick E. Scratch 3 years ago
I don't really see the Joey character as horrible - just seems to be over-eager to get into ladies' pants, but is just over compensating for his insecurity. I didnt intend to quote the Joker, but he's like a dog chasing a car, he wouldn't know what to do with it if he caught it. That said... I didn't watch it much when it was initially on, but i see it in reruns when my wife puts it on sometimes when she goes to bed.
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Ni Na 3 years ago
Ross was the worst. I stopped watching because of him. He was homophobic and refused to let his Son play with a puppet or have a male nanny because that's a woman job. Awful character.
Alexandra Comeau 3 years ago
do you want every single character in any fictional show to be the perfect human being? thats pretty utopian and weird
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This is why Seinfeld had it's finale as the characters facing a court of morality. They were all despicable people and that's why the were funny, not why they were role models. It's the human condition to revere narcissists, sociopaths and megalomaniacs. Always Sunny does the best at just coming out and saying it.
Helen 3 years ago
Ok, this nonsense has to stop now. Nobody is going to spoil my favorite TV series. Face it, the world used to be different. It's changing now, which is both good and bad, depending on the kind of change. Friends were never supposed to be role models. They were supposed to be NORMAL people as we all are. With flaws. Nobody's perfect. If you don't like it, don't watch it. HOWGH!
Alexandra Comeau 3 years ago
seriously! just recently i saw in twitter how people wanna boycott books when a character has bad thoughts they dont agree with. people are goinf absolutely insane. on one hand they want fictional shows and fun and be entertained but on the other hand they are annoyingly woke, picking things apart because a show is human.
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Sleeping Solipsist 3 years ago
Yeah . But they worked/ deserved each other because their strengths meant they could call each other out for their faults and bring out the best in each other to..
Don't..just..dont 3 years ago
Yeah kinda would resemble house on the prairie otherwise, people are bas*ARDS and self involved that's what made it humourous maybe
Bored Panda also wanted to hear about the hallmarks of a truly great villain. Here's what Doug, from Bad Hand Books, had to say about this: "Good villains have a reason for doing what they do—and they feel absolutely justified in taking those actions. That doesn't mean they need a sophisticated backstory, but a good villain is the hero of their own story," he said.
"And the best villains have motivations we can partially sympathize with. Think about Pamela Voorhees, who picks off camp counselors to avenge the death of her son. Most of us cringe at her methods, but can relate to her anger."
Meanwhile, when it comes to the difference between villains and antiheroes, Doug sees it in terms of selfishness vs. selflessness. "A villain's goals are centered on satisfying their own emotional needs, whereas an antihero will do things that are characteristically villainous for the greater good," he told Bored Panda.
#4
Joker. And all those cringe posts on Facebook that's just pictures of him saying s**t like "I got your back in the darkest times" my dude he doesn't have anyone's back that's the f*****g joker
Mia Black 3 years ago
I don't like the way He is Idealized and hyped. I think people liked the way the actors showed the role and i respect their work but i can not stand, when people party a person who is cruel on purpose. It downplays violence, even if the characters are fictional. Since they are portrayed by real people, the line between fiction and reality becomes smaller, and I'm concerned that people who aren't good at reflecting might get the wrong perception.
Deidre Lippnik 3 years ago
True... i always hate when they call Joker and Harley "relationship goals" f**k no... that us the most toxic relationship.
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Luke Branwen 3 years ago
Joker, aka. an icon of internet edgelords who seek profundity in acting like an A-hole.
SCP-3998 3 years ago
Joker and Harley are consistently misunderstood in the wrong a*s ways. It's basically a bunch of younger/damaged folks who worship that relationship as "ideal". Like, ok...if your kink is being abused go nuts, but dont make it "normal" please.
Michael Largey 3 years ago
A great performance sometimes carries over to how people feel about the character
Cass Malone 3 years ago (edited)
I hate how ppl idolize his relationship with Harley. "I want a relationship like Joker and Harley" excuse me? You WANT to be in a manipulative, abusive relationship?
#5
Jerry from Tom and Jerry. He's a f****r, Tom is just defending his house
Zedrapazia 3 years ago
Mice are cute and nice, until you have them in your house. Then you'll thank the s**t out of your cat for devouring their destructive asses
Bender Bending Rodríguez 3 years ago (edited)
You know you aren't a child anymore when you start rooting for Tom.
Laura Gillette 3 years ago
I always hated how cats are so vilified in cartoons and kids' shows. Whyyyy!?
Your Local Ravenclaw 3 years ago
There’s only one instance in a cartoon that I can think of where it wasn’t, Amphibia, which takes the complete opposite direction and makes a cat the god of the effin multiverse. Cats deserve better!
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Dinah Brand 3 years ago
Thank you!! I've always secretly wanted Tom to catch Jerry, for good. LOL!
Earl Grey 3 years ago
Yes, their agreement is with Warner Brothers Studio. 😁
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Allyson Brooks 3 years ago
I've gotten pretty fed up that almost all cats who appear in fictional film are the bad guys.
#6
Romeo and Juliet
tuzdayschild 3 years ago
It is a tragedy. It is literally categorized as one of Shakespeare's tragedies.
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Amy Watkins 3 years ago
Yes! People don't seem to remember it was a tragedy, not a love story. There is a hilarious wedding toast in the movie Table 19 (funny movie, you should see it) that says, "You are Romeo and Juliet, and we all wish you the same happy ending."
Abigail Hill 3 years ago
To be fair, it wasn't meant to be a great romance or idolized like it is. It's a tragedy. It's literally about a 17 and 14 year old wanting to hook up and their families warring and a bunch of people ending up dead.
CalicoKitty 3 years ago
Your daily reminder that Romeo and Juliet are in their late and early teens respectively. And like everyone else in Romeo and Juliet, they aren't the brightest bulbs around, even if that's excusable for their ages.
Honu 3 years ago
Yep. I think Shakespeare made it pretty clear from the start. He introduces Romeo mooning on about some other girl and his friends teasing him about how he's always falling in love with a new pretty face. Juliet would've been the next flavor of the week if it weren't for all their parents' cr*p. The Capulets are about to marry her off to an old guy for an alliance. The Capluets and Montagues have this big feud going on so it's all drama and conflict. Romeo and Juliet's hormonal teen lust is magnified by the fact that the relationship is forbidden fruit. In the end, the families are punished by the loss of their children to this stupid competition.
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Hyde and Seek 3 years ago
People say it's a romantic ideal ,it's not. It's a tragedy .
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Michael Largey 3 years ago
I taught high school for forty years. Teenagers do not think, feel, act, or especially talk like the two in this play.
JB 3 years ago
Given the play was written in 1597, the expectation modern teenagers would speak in archaic English in iambic pentameter, is laughable. However, they still get crushes on each other, talk a lot of romantic drivel while in the throes, tend to over-dramatics and doubling down if faced with parental opposition to their affection and, yes, sneak around to have sex.
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Randy Klefbeck 3 years ago
Romeo is a two timer, and a murderer. He is in love with someone else at the play's opening, and in the heat of anger kills Juliet's brother.
Let’s be frank for a moment: there will always be disagreements on how to interpret certain story elements, character arcs, and what the writer/artist intended to put on the screen and on the page. It’s like asking who’s cooler, Batman, Superman, or Spiderman.
However, by getting involved in these discussions, setting up our arguments, and countering others’ opinions, we get a bit closer to the truth about what makes characters stand out, what types of stories and tropes we prefer, and why.
You’ll hardly ever come to a satisfactory conclusion in arguments over fiction (especially if you’re on the internet!), but sharing your ideas and interpretations can help you get your own thoughts in order. Things get very interesting once you move past the, ‘I don’t like character X/I think that opinion Y is wrong, and I’m the only one who’s right!’ phase.
#7
Joker & Harley are still idolized as an example of crazy passionate love despite it being clearly established as an abusive relationship. It’s a shame the movies had to cut out most of the really bad Joker abuse because then maybe the point will be driven home
Luke Branwen 3 years ago
I don't follow DC stuff at all, but lately I often see Harley dating Poison Ivy and I thing that's hell of an upgrade.
Eris Kallisti 3 years ago
The Harley Quinn animated series is all about this upgrade. It's really good.
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Jason Marin 3 years ago
I've seen pictures of Gomez and Morticia with a caption below them saying, "I want a relationship like Gomez and Morticia" and below that pic is one of Joker and Harley with, "Not a relationship like Joker and Harley."
ItsJess 3 years ago
Gomez and Morticia are a totally different animal. They love and respect one another and build each other up. They're weird, but not abusive.
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GracefulKumiho 3 years ago
I agree. I am truly disgusted when I see people idolizing their love. I've been in a psychologically draining toxic relationship. No one should want or endure that.
InvincibleRodent 3 years ago
I think the comic that best represents their real relationship is "Harleen", by Stjepan Sejic. Worth checking out if you haven't already!
Benita Valdez 3 years ago
There was the new 52 Suicide Squad comic that had an issue or 2 where they really showed a fùcked up side of Joker toward Harley.
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Reinaldo Fuentes 3 years ago (edited)
It's 2022 and I think we all now know that MANY many many people are quietly closeted bags of broken dildos. The appeal of Joker & Harley is kept in that same bag.
#8
Peter Pan, he flies into kids windows and kidnaps them.
Monday 3 years ago
and potentially murders lost boys who get to old to still be lost boys depending on which version of the story we're talking about.
Audrey 3 years ago
In the original/classic novel it mentions that he kills then when they grow up but completely glosses over it otherwise.
Load More Replies... KnightOwl 3 years ago
He's a terrible person in the original story, he's horrible to the lost boys and only puts up with them because they idolise him and he loves the attention and adoration he gets from them. He doesn't seem to care about anyone and basically kidnaps Wendy and her brothers because he wants Wendy to look after the lost boys so he doesn't have to. The original story is incredibly weird and creepy compared to the 'disney' version most people think of when they think of Peter Pan.
Marlowe Fitzpatrik 3 years ago
He's a child in the original story. I think at the most he's ten (less, probably) and kept on that island all alone, raised by fairies and believing his mother didn't want him anymore. Children are incredibly self-centered and only think towards their own goals. It's just human nature, nothing bad about it - they eventually learn. Peter didn't, though, because the fairies just did everything he wanted for him and he was spoiled rotten. When he met Wendy and her brothers - yes, he wanted her and he basically kidnapped them. He wanted her because she sewed his shadow back to him, which kept running away from him. And it was through Wendy that he learned what it means to care for someone. He never did before - all the Lost Boys were just his friends and he stopped liking them when they wanted to grow up and not play with him anymore. I can't quite remember how it ended for Peter - I know Wendy went back with her brothers. I *think* he went back to Neverland with Tinkerbell? Good book.
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Kerstin Fransen 3 years ago
Isn't he the angel of death that takes kids to Heaven? That's what I always thought
Monday 3 years ago
He took children away from their parents without the parent's consent, that by definition is kidnapping. It's like if I go to a park, befriend a child and convince them to "run away" with me. It's still kidnapping even if the kid wants it.
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Marlowe Fitzpatrik 3 years ago
No! What?? Well... maybe if you consider the writer writing some fictious land where he imagined only pre-teen children as his own fantasy. But the book itself - no.
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Quitethedilemma 3 years ago (edited)
Many women have played the role of peter pan even back in the early 1900s when they couldn't have child actors etc. Mary Martin being a well known example of a woman playing peter pan. Edit just to remind people that the downvote button can get people blocked so please think twice before downvoting.
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Archie Bunker - I hear boomers admiring that he didn't care if he offended people as if that's a good thing. In reality, the character was specifically written as a satire of the small-minded middle class bigots who think they're so clever when they know so little.
Jordi Sharpe 3 years ago
Parody and satire are remarkably undetectable to idiots.
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JayWantsACat 3 years ago
"People who tell it like it is/just being honest" = an a*****e. And, not I'm not saying people who are willing to tell people the truth, how they really feel, etc. You're missing the point if you think my point isn't specifically about people who rationalize being a POS by labeling themselves as the above.
Gabby Ghoul 3 years ago
Carroll O'Connor himself was perplexed that anyone liked Archie Bunker.
Dinah Brand 3 years ago
There is a disclaimer they played before the first episode, and now, before each rerun... “The program you are about to see is All In The Family. It seeks to throw a humorous spotlight on our frailties, prejudices, and concerns. By making them a source of laughter, we hope to show – in a mature fashion – just how absurd they are.”
Michelle Carlson 3 years ago
Good lord, I hated that show. I know it was supposed to be satire, but ugh.
West World Employee 7 3 years ago
I'm a boomer..he was the joke..no one admired him. Rob Reiner was the hero.
Candi Cabaniss 3 years ago
I see it differently. Mike was a parasite. He lived in his inlaws house, ate their food etc. And his degree? Sociology? Really?
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Carol Bogdanowitz 3 years ago
Archie didn't care what anyone thought, and I think that was the point. His behavior didn't make us admire him or his actions, it made us realize we did not want to be like him. Why do you think You are so against him....we taught you better. Well, at least I taught my children better.
While a quick scroll through social media will show you a ton of extremely cringy Joker memes that should be avoided like the plague, it’d be unfair to write off the character entirely. Yes, he’s pretty much a violent psychopath who (depending on which version of the Joker you have in mind) gets up to everything from silly pranks to some truly dark and mind-breaking stuff that nobody should ever fall victim to.
He’s definitely not a hero and shouldn’t be idolized. He’s also not just a psychopath. It’s not wrong to feel at least some sympathy for villains and antiheroes sometimes. Some aspects of their character and their motivations might make them relatable. Things aren’t just black or white in modern and postmodern media unless you’re telling a very traditional Good vs. Evil story. Gotham, we feel, has enough space for some more nuance and shades of grey. If a character is written well and is more than just two-dimensional, it's normal to at least understand where they're coming from, even if you're not fully on their side.
In the opinion of yours truly, what makes a villain compelling is that their goals and motivations resonate with us. We see a part of ourselves in them and their actions. We’re forced to come to the stark conclusion that even though we want the heroes to win and save the day, that victory isn’t as morally clear-cut as it might initially seem.
#10
Walter White. You're not supposed to root for the murderous, ruthless, self-centred, ego maniac drug lord by the end of the series. People do.
Deborah B 3 years ago
I thought the point of the series was that America is a distopia that pushes people into destructive and/or criminal behaviour by denying them basic human rights. Such as life-saving medical care.
David H 3 years ago
did you watch the series? He became a drug dealer to provide for his family once he was gone, his cancer was diagnosed as "inoperable", nothing to do with medical care. That seems to be something people talk about online, which exposes they dont really watch the show.
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Xottel 3 years ago
It's basically stated in the title. Walter's moment of breaking bad though is not the moment he turns to cooking meth to cover his bills. It's the moment he decides not to give up his new hobby and becomes a greedy, reckless megalomaniac.
Merle Anna 3 years ago
The thing is if hear in the news about a criminal you get a clear opinion about that person. But if you get in touch the story of a person and how they became criminal you will probably sympathize. It makes it relatable.
Sharkbait1313 3 years ago
It was one of those shows where you came to despise the main character.
René Studer 3 years ago (edited)
You do know that liking a character in a TV-show and agreeing with their actions in said Show are different things, right? Right???
MJ 3 years ago
This honestly seems reasonable. The show is meant to mess with your feeling and make you root for the main character, even if you don't agree with their actions. Funny, relatable, and even heartwarming or generally nice scenes are added to create an intricate plot and fleshed out characters that aren't all "evil" Yeah, the concept is a horrible thing to think about anyone participating in or having to go through, but the show is a masterpiece and people love to root for a fabulously written main character. Plus, while I don't in anyway suggest idolizing a fictional psychopath (as in looking up to them, genuinely wanting to be like them, seeing absolute;y nothing wrong with their actions) I think its okay to root for a villain sometimes even if you know they're in the wrong.
#11
I'm ready for the downvotes, but my honest opinion is Snape. Dude was a jealous, racist, and condescending a*****e. Dude was straight up bullied and we get his perspective so we feel sympathy for him, but the dude was straight up in the wizarding world's kkk. Somehow he's loved because he loved Harry's mom, switched sides, and was a double agent. I get the whole redemption arc but he was still acting selfishly and I don't get why people think he's such a hero. He's a complete a*s to Harry for no reason other than 'your father was an a*s to me so f**k you.'
The guy literally walked over his unrequited love's HUSBANDS dead body to sob over her death. Could you imagine if you knew a guy in high school who joined the kkk, had the most incel crush on you, and was so obsessed with you that he cradled your dead body after walking over your husband's dead body?
Monday 3 years ago
We should note though that said "unrequited love's husband" was the bully that tormented him less than 5 years ago. I would totally step over my bully's corpse without a second thought. And although Snape was very much an a*****e the whole "wizard KKK" thing happened when he was like 20. Young people are often dumb, we don't judge them solely for the c**p they did in the past. Was Snape a hero though? Absolutely not. That's the point. He's just a dude who ended up doing the right thing after doing a bunch of wrong things.
Laura Würker 3 years ago
He bullied Neville pretty hard only because Voldemord choose to mu**der the Potters instead of the Longbottoms.
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The Starsong Princess 3 years ago
Snaps is compelling because a) he was played by Alan Rickman and who doesn’t like him? And b) despite his flaws and prejudices, he acts against Voldemort at considerable risk to himself and dies for it.
Sergio Bicerra Descalzi 3 years ago
The only bad thing I can say about Snape is he projected his anger of James upon Harry, but really James looked as arrogant as Malfoy. Either way, Snape made me hate Alan Rickman and that makes him a good actor.
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Urbangirlatl 3 years ago
I love Potterheads. This whole almost academic debate over a character makes my day. Be well, my people.
Colin Timp 3 years ago (edited)
Thank you. And Dumbledore is no better. I understand that Snape was bullied; but to spend seven years taking out his anger on an innocent child that isn't allowed to fight back is inexcusable. Worse yet, Dumbledore lets him do this. Should also mention that he's a terrible teacher! He never once says anything positive or gives any encouragement whatsoever. I should mention that that scene where he holds Lily's body isn't in the books.
KnightOwl 3 years ago
Snape is a morally grey character, he's not good or evil, that's what makes him such a great character.(just like Dumbledore) The Harry Potter fandom seems to be obsessed with labelling him as good or evil but he's neither and both! No-one is 100%good or 100% evil most people fall somewhere in the middle I wish more people understood this!
DippityDooDerp 3 years ago
Snape is the definition of a neck beard. No excuses and no exceptions
Joke Vermote 3 years ago
He got sympathy from some people becaus it was a wonderfull actor that played him. I too feel different for the book Snape than the movie Snape
Lara Verne 3 years ago
I kinda agree, Snape wasn't as great as people often see him. I think movies portrayed him as better person than the books.
#12
Holden Caulfield, The Catcher in the Rye. He wasn’t being refreshingly rebellious, he was crying out for help. He was probably mentally ill, and definitely emotionally scarred by his brother’s death and the unhealthy way his parents handled that tragedy.
Adam Belaire 3 years ago
"I don't buy them a copy of Catcher in the Rye and then lecture them with some seventh grade interpretation of how Holden Caulfield is some profound, intellectual. He wasn't! He was a spoiled brat!" -Glen Quagmire, Family Guy. S8 Ep 7 "Jerome Is the New Black"
Shane G 3 years ago
Given this I've never understood how anyone could think anything other than "this kid is having a mental breakdown"
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I completely agree. He was depressed over his brothers death and his other brother moving to Hollywood, and recognized everyone for the phonies that they are. He knew he was lost and wanted to stop other children becoming lost/depressed like himself by catching them before they end up in the same position that he is in. He is the greatest character ever.
Elaine Morinelli 3 years ago
I loved the book but I could see he was traumatized. Clearly he was depressed.
Real life is messy, chaotic, and complicated. People are incredibly rarely purely good or evil. Stories and characters that manage to capture a fraction of that while keeping the audience entertained can go very far.
You could argue that just as much as fictional characters shouldn’t be idolized, they also shouldn’t be immediately demonized. Besides, it’s often hard to know what the ‘point’ of a particular story is when we don’t have access to the unfiltered thoughts and intentions of the creators. Moreover, once you finish a story and let it loose upon the world, it’s no longer just your creation. Everyone who reads or watches it adds to the worldbuilding whenever they share their interpretations.
So, yes, to put it bluntly, evil characters obviously shouldn’t be idolized… but perhaps the reason they are is that they’re written so well that they work like mirrors, reflecting a part of the audience and society back at them. A part that may be uncomfortable for many to even think about.
Psychologist Lee Chambers told Bored Panda during an earlier interview that part of the reason why people enjoy watching entertainment that covers the darker side of humanity is due to our evolutionary journey as human beings.
“For the majority of our existence, we were prey and always hyperaware of threats to our safety, which created a negativity bias that we are drawn towards. But in today's safe and often sanitized world, we are rarely threatened significantly, and the ability to explore evil, frightening and gruesome entertainment is one of the few ways we can visit this part of humanity while remaining safe and comfortable,” he shared his thoughts about forms of entertainment like the spectacularly popular true crime genre.
“There is a level of novelty to it, it removes boredom quickly, and it helps us to discover our emotional limits while understanding the minds of those who go beyond social norms and potentially gaining knowledge of how we might avoid being victims ourselves. They also offer closure, with many stories ending with the mystery being solved, and the criminal being brought to a level of justice.”
#13
Scarface. So many wannabe gangstas and rappers with Scarface shirts and posters.
MimSorensson 3 years ago
WHAT!??! Who would EVER see that drooling little creep as a goddamned ROLEMODEL?! The movie is great but that nasty little pig sure as hell isn’t! That CAN’T ever have been the intention, surely? He’s absolutely vile!
SkippityBoppityBoo 1 year ago
Having a Scarface poster doesn't necessarily mean that you want to BE him. I had it up on my wall because I liked the way it was made, the direction of it (as in the way Brian De Palma made it)... That and it came free with a film magazine that I used to regularly buy so...
Celtic Pirate Queen 3 years ago
My sister's youthful ambition was to be a drug lord's "moll". Yeah, aim high Jenn.
#14
Homelander from The Boys comes to mind
What I am referring to is that there was an article that was published about some fans who genuinely thought Homelander, who is supposed to represent white supremacy ideology and toxic masculinity ideals, was actually a good guy in the show. It took them until the third season to find out that he was actually the bad guy and people were big mad about it. It blew my mind that they went through two seasons and thought Homelander was a good guy......
So that was who came to mind first with this prompt.
Dash Junior 3 years ago
Some people thought that Homelander was a hero? He was a goddamned monster early on if I remember correctly.
Amy Watkins 3 years ago
I only watched the first episode, and it was clear that he was not good!
Joy 3 years ago
Anthony Starr plays him frighteningly well. For me that's always been the paradox of a violently disturbed mind in that the person knows what they're doing and gets a kick out of it yet has zero awareness of why. Homelander is banal, petty and a repulsive inhuman stench but he is entertaining to watch. Same with the snake-eyed JR in Dallas. In real life Larry Hagman was a sweetheart. The good guys play the bad guys best.
Melanie Burlock 3 years ago
He raped Butcher’s wife, Rebecca. Who the hell thought he was a good guy???
#15
Vito Corleone, and by extension, Michael.
Vito had to flee his home as a little boy to escape a mafia boss who wanted him dead. He gets to the US, but because of discrimination against Italians and another mafia boss stealing his job for his nephew, he's forced into crime so he can take care of his family. He joins The Life, and he's good at it.
But because of that life:
- Sonny is murdered
- Michael goes into exile
- Michael's first wife is murdered
- Fredo has a breakdown
- Connie goes off the rails after her abusive husband is killed
- Michael's second wife leaves him
- Fredo betrays Michael
- Michael has him killed
- Michael's daughter is killed
- Michael's son hates him
Even more tragic? MICHAEL ALMOST ESCAPED THAT LIFE.
EDIT: 90% of y'all are agreeing with me and the other 10% are proving my point.
Gabriele Alfredo Pini 3 years ago
I hate the Mafia: in Italy we have so much controls and laws because of those wankers!
Jordi Sharpe 3 years ago
I've never been into mob movies. I understand the interest in the subject t to a certain extent, but all too often people seem to be cheering for heinous people.
MimSorensson 3 years ago
Michael’s son and daughter…? That must be in some sequel to the original book? I only read the one, the kids were only mentioned briefly there.
Honu 3 years ago
This is lifted from a post on Reddit. So OP is referring to replies they received over there.
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Kabuki Kitsune 3 years ago
Vito is described in the books, as never wanting Michael to take on that life. He expected Michael to be the first person in the family, to actually get out of the life; and honestly, that's just what he wanted. Vito never argued that what he was doing was 'good', or 'right'. He knew full well that he was a criminal. However he saw so much more for Michael, and tried everything he could to push him in the right direction. Where everything goes pear shaped though, is when Sonny gets killed. That happened, in the books, around the time that Vito himself was in the hospital, unable to really stop Michael from doing something about it. After he finds out what Michael does, Vito goes to great lengths to send Michael to Sicily, and pays off all manner of other mobsters to leave Michael alone. It's implied that Vito fully expected Michael to never return, and was okay with that. Things didn't go as planned though.
"It [the story] can take us on an emotional rollercoaster, have us trying to solve the puzzle and test our fear in a controlled way. The permission to explore evil is powerful, as we so rarely get the chance elsewhere, and in itself, it is healthy and normal in moderation," the psychologist told Bored Panda.
"The challenge we face is the fact that consuming too much of this can desensitize us, and cause us to become less empathetic to the suffering of others, more fearful of our own environment, and potentially be more likely to use aggression ourselves. It can also cause us to be triggered by our own previous adverse experiences, make it harder to manage our own emotional balance, and increase our stress levels, so moderating our consumption is something we should have front of mind, even when we get embroiled in the latest series that is pulling us in."
#16
Patrick Bateman.
The memes today are undermining how brutally narcissistic, inhuman and soulless he really is. The novel made me puke every few pages.
He himself admitted the only emotions he was left with was greed and disgust.
He is among the peak consumerist in a consumerism driven society.
Hex Gurls 3 years ago
which is exactly the point. he’s a satire of businessmen who are the ideology of consumerism. i almost vomited when i looked him up when watching the movie for the first time and there were so many articles titled, ‘how to be patrick bateman’. he has zero redeeming qualities what the f**k is there to emulate if u don’t want to be a sociopath
Miles Mawyer 3 years ago
I was going to post that, but you beat me too it! 🤣 I use that line on people way too often.
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Michael Travis Risner 3 years ago
Yup. Got to the chapter with the you-know-what with a bow in the locker and put it down.
Kabuki Kitsune 3 years ago
There's also the question (raised even in the book) as to whether or not the murders even took place, and if they weren't just fantasies in his head.
#17
Not actually fictional but- The Wolf of Wall Street
Ines Olabarria-Smith 3 years ago
Never seen that film after reading an interview of the daughter of the man it was based on. Her life was ruined by his father’s doing and she hated the idea of him being celebrated.
Ueda 3 years ago (edited)
He is not celebrated in the movie though. Quite the opposite. He is shown as a complete POS. To make their point, the actual guy portrayed in the movie gives a tone deaf talk to conclude the movie. Took me a while to figure this out though.
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Barbara Skolly 3 years ago
Not sure how anyone would think he's the good guy. Even the movie trailers portrayed him as greedy.
#18
Ferris Bueller. Looking back he just seems like a lazy manipulative teenager who bullies his suicidal friend into riding and eventually crashing an expensive car, not to mention harassing his principal who was a jerk but was just trying to do his job.
Mistiekim 3 years ago
I wouldn’t call him lazy - I mean the kid set up elaborate schemes in order to get out of school. And Rooney was absolutely determined to catch him. He could’ve stayed at the school and nothing would’ve happened to him other than being mad. He’s the one that went out to track Ferris.
Michelle Carlson 3 years ago
To me, he always seemed like the kid that is too smart and gets bored in school. We've all met those people who just seem born with an inate self-confidence and I think he was genuinely trying to help Cameron in the only way he knew how, with the hubris of youth
JayWantsACat 3 years ago
I woulnd't characterize the principal as "just trying to do his job." He literally leaves school for most of the day to manically focus on one student, who was already excused from school by his parents, and breaks into the Bueller's house. That's just doing his job?
Gibberint Dark 3 years ago
The film makers responsible for this movie should have taken the day off... Most boring film ever...
#19
I teach high school computer science. My first year was the year Rick and Morty came out. Every one of my students was convinced that they were Rick. I’m so glad they’ve moved to all being weebs now. The Rick gang was insufferable
T5n 3 years ago
He’s an extremely intelligent borderline sociopathic alcoholic with little regard to his universe or others. He’s ended the world with Cronenberg creatures, killed a man over using his toilet , and he keeps an entire mini-universe captive as slaves to power his car’s battery.
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The thing with Rick though, is that he knows his faults. He knows he’s an a*s, but he was an a*s that cares about his family. Morty is there to balance him out and remind him that although he’s the smartest man who ever lived, he also has to live in this world/ in other worlds and can hurt people.
Dinah Brand 3 years ago
Isn't Rick an alcoholic? I am too, so I'm not slamming the disease, but I also wouldn't want to emulate him.
Sleeping Solipsist 3 years ago
I reckon he's going to be revealed to the ultimate solipsist (ultimate in the sense that he makes the narcissistic most out of his existence)
#20
Light Yagami.
So many people forget that Death Note basically shredded whatever redeeming qualities he had for the sole purpose of spreading the message that power corrupts/absolute power corrupts absolutely. The only thing that anyone really seems to talk about regarding his character is that he’s awesome, handsome, and polite, and even the former was a facade.
Monday 3 years ago
Same with L on the flipside. He's childish, selfish and willing to sacrifice people if it means getting the information he needs on whoever he's hunting. They were lovely counterparts to watch going up against each other, but the real heroes were the poor cops just doing their jobs.
Jungle Empress 85 2 years ago
THANK YOU. Light's initial plan of killing criminals sounds good on paper, but it just makes him a murderer, especially when he starts killing innocents such as the police officers to cover his tracks. (From what I remember, anyway; it's been a long while since I've watched the anime or films, and I've barely read any of the manga.) It's like what I hear about Dexter, which I don't plan on watching ever.
Load More Replies... Lara Verne 3 years ago
He was narcissistic since beginning. Early, in the manga, he's freaking out (omg, I killed two people), but not because he regrets it. It's more like he's shocked that Death note actually works. Then he start killing criminals, and then people who "stay in his way". And he become megalomaniac psycho pretty quickly.
Colin Timp 3 years ago
Sad that the only people that do well with power are those who never wanted it in the first place.
Supernatural fan666 3 years ago
Finally i can say this i have been waiting He became the monster he sought to kill
Ueda 3 years ago
I remember this vaguely but isn't the point of this story that the character is the actual bad guy?
Kise Miarse 3 years ago
Yeah it is. The post is pointing out that some people miss that and actually idolize the character.
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D. Pitbull 3 years ago
I... was SO GLAD that... well, let's just say no Karma Houdini on this one... I read the manga AND watched the series... both times... wished I could just dope-slap the sh--- out of this little punk.
Leta Schoeller 3 years ago
It irks me when Light is referred to as the 'protagonist.' He is an antagonist in a story that is told from their prospective.
Monday 3 years ago
That makes him the protagonist though. A protagonist is not a comment on a character's morality, just their role in the story. He was the main character, that means he was the protagonist. L was the main antagonist along with the rest of the investigation team. A villain can be a protagonist just as easily as a hero can be an antagonist.
Load More Replies... CalicoKitty 3 years ago
Where's that post about Death Note being about what happens when you give a maniac a button that you can push to kill for 1 million dollars and see how long he keeps pushing it for after it's 100% clear that the several hundred million isn't showing up?
#21
Alex from A Clockwork Orange.
The point of the book (to my reading) was that you can't force natures hand. All the rehabilitation in the world couldn't make Alex grow up, only Alex could. And he did. In the end, it was not a glorification of violence.
RP 3 years ago
If I recall correctly, the film basically cut the final chapter of the book in which we see him grow-up which has led to a lot of misinterpretations of the work. It has been awhile since I saw it though, so I could be wrong
Christopher Hebhardt 3 years ago
The film follows them US version of the book at the time. That version also omits the final chapter which really is a key part of the novel.
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DC 3 years ago
... does anybody idolize this POS? I mean ... until he gets caught, the only thing he constantly is doing is unprovoked violence in various shades and grades ... then, he gets tortured into obedience ... and then, proceeds to undo the Ludoviko treatment, it seems. "I was healed", not "I am healed" were his last, words, righty-right?
#22
The Punisher
Nicole Weymann 3 years ago (edited)
Vigilantism in general is not the heroic deed it's made out to be. The image of heroes single handedly cleaning up may be nice in comics, but in real life for every attempted Batman/Robin Hood there's a thousand Judge Dredds/lynch mob members whose actions can best be summarized by "Oops! But how was I to know that he was innocent?".
Q B F T 3 years ago
Bruce Wayne would do far more good for his city if he invested his wealth in it and stopped dressing up in bondage gear to terrorise poor people with mental health issues
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RafCo (he/him) 3 years ago
In that case, all superheroes. Think about it this way. When Spiderman beats up the bad guys, and ties them up, what do the cops actually get to. A group of people who's civil rights have just been violated, and the only evidence is that they were attacked by a vigilante. They wouldn't be tried for any crime, as there wouldn't be evidence of one, and any crime they may have committed, would be far outweighed by the violence against them. Think about a scene in one of the new movies. Some guys come to rob an ATM machine. Spiderman assaults them, and does millions of property damage. Who is the real bad guy here?
Marlowe Fitzpatrik 3 years ago
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you made the point of Tony Stark in Civil War (the movie). Which a lot of people apparently missed because Cap is just so cute and truly loves his brain-washed murder-machine besty ;-)
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Greg heffley. Guys a little sh*thead.
Strawberry Pizza 3 years ago
In the first Movie Diary, Jeff Kinney actually addresses this. Greg was meant to be a bit of a jerk - it was intentional.
Livy Leonard 3 years ago
Yes, I really want to like him but it’s so hard! I’m always rooting for him to make a good choice
#24
Phantom of the Opera. Rejection does not give a person a free pass to manipulate someone into loving him or her. Don't get me wrong; I don't hate him- in fact, I sympathize with him because no one likes rejection and abuse, of course. Boy, is the musical character a hero compared to his portrayal in the book, though, and the character is actually far darker than any adaptation may be able to portray accurately! (Not to knock on Lord Andrew Lloyd Weber, of course; I'm just stating that the Phantom is far darker than I think *anyone* would be able to capture completely.) ETA: 1.5K karma??? Oh, boy, I had no idea Lord Webber's work was *that* controversial as compared to the book, but I did know the real Phantom was a lot darker....
actaeon cross 3 years ago
I couldn't find anyone who cared about Phantom of the Opera when I was younger (admittedly I grew up on this, knew the soundtrack during elementary school, and read Gaston Leroux's book in fifth grade). I'm so happy that with the internet I can see how large the fanbase is and engage with people.
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#25
Woody from toy story. Guy's ego is larger than the moon
Mikey Kliss 3 years ago
Eh I feel like theres a difference between "straight up bad characters" And flawed ones. Woody is flawed but not straight up evil (a la scarface)
Marlowe Fitzpatrik 3 years ago
What? But he learned from his mistakes and changed! That makes him by definition someone to ... well, maybe not idolize, but admire. I mean.. IF changing towards being a better person is something one wants to do, of course.
#26
Tyler Durden, hands down.
Wintermute 3 years ago
This is an excellent example of the hero you deserve rather than the hero you need. Sort of fighting fire with fire, except the fire is toxic culture. The point of Tyler Durdin is that he's an antihero, not meant to be easy to categorize as good or bad - the false duality of lazy writers.
NamiKoa 3 years ago
Maybe I need to rewatch Fight Club (or read the book), but in my perception Tyler was never "a good guy" - he was just everything that "Jack" wished he could be and his way of coping with everything he perceived as wrong in the world. While I am very much against violence, there's a whole lot of social commentary and criticism in there that I agree with ("we work jobs we hate so we can buy s**t we don't need" just as one example).
Joy 3 years ago
In fighting the system the Edward Norton character fought himself. Was Chuck Palaunick warning that we all are the system because we plug into something that eats us alive? Maybe. But Palaunick is an insightful genius - easily my favourite writer- who writes the (invisible) monsters society creates. Incidentally Palaunick is hugely admired but like us all is not without the flaws that make him human.
BG 3 years ago (edited)
We're not supposed to talk about it. I've said too much.
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Rachel Reynolds 3 years ago
If a guy tells you his favorite media is Fight Club, The Joker, or Catcher in the Rye, start filling out the restraining order. (#notallmen) But most guys who venerate those tend to pick out all the bad and ignore the underlying social commentary.
Benita Valdez 3 years ago
Just curious, what if a woman says that? Sorry I just get frustrated with these types of comments because they come off as a double standard since you specify "a guy" so it imply feelings aren't the same if a woman says they like them. And what's so wrong with enjoying how wonderfully developed a character is regardless of how horrible or evil they are? I mean seriously, you just made this statement because creators made characters so impactful that you've made a very harsh generalization about people who like them. They're fantastic characters because they pull the feelings from people and actually generate intense emotions in people
Load More Replies... ben woskje 3 years ago
Yer, you need to explain this... the world could do with many more tylers and project mayhems.... i get the feeling you have missed the point rather than us.
Vix Spiderthrust 3 years ago
You're wrong. Tyler Durden is the poster boy for toxic masculinity, and his shallow "philosophy" is not an excuse for terrorism.
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#27
Michael Scott? I mean, I know people don't "idolize" him. But overall he's so damn likeable that we all like him, and probably all think he's actually a caring, loving boss.
But in reality he throws his people under the bus quite a bit and always puts himself first.
That said, I can't help but love the guy.
Lizzie Andricks 3 years ago
i'm still convinced he has a secret coke problem that everyone just ignores
Has sold soul for corn chip 3 years ago
hope so, i love him but he acted like a prick at times
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LeeAnne B 3 years ago
Absolutely an overt narcissist. I don't know if I love him or hate him but I definitely pity him
Stacy 3 years ago
If you're basing the opinion solely on season one, I guess I could understand this takeaway. His character's demeanor changes somewhat in season two.
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#28
Jay Gatsby.
JKJ 3 years ago
This book became popular by distributing it to soldiers during the war. They were so tired of the same old thing that they were thrilled and brought that excitement home with them. It became a classic. I found it and Gatsby revolting.
Kathrine Perkins 3 years ago
Yes, exactly! That's the point. People should hate Gatsby by the end, but many people mistake him for a hero/nice guy
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Love Quinn from You.
I can’t believe how many people worship her character. I have to tell myself that the people praising her actually KNOW she’s an insane, psychopathic, manipulative murderer, and their admiration of her is actually rooted in how well developed her character is and how refreshing it is to see a female villain instead of just another innocent victim. I have to tell myself that to sleep at night. Because there’s no way people actually admire HER, as in who her character was. There’s no way they can justify her actions or want to be anything like her. Right? Lol.
#30
Thomas Shelby Peaky Blinders.
Deborah Harris 3 years ago
I don't think the point of his story was missed at all. The whole sets of series showed his flaws and those of his family. His character was idolised because of his family values and the way he protected his own
DuchessDegu 3 years ago
I started watching Peaky Blinders after it had finished on regular TV so I could watch the whole thing at my leisure. Before starting I watched a documentary about the real Peaky Blinders, they were a bunch of bastard criminals indeed and I had all the intentions of hating the whole Shelby gang. By the second season I was rooting for them even though they are indeed a bunch of murderers. I suppose all credit to the writer for twisting and turning so much we ended up empathising with old Tommy
Joy 3 years ago
It helps that Tommy Shelby is played by the beautiful and gifted Cillian Murphy. The character has an icy sensuality that is red-hot plus scores brownie points for being an anti-racist and ally. Shelby is a challenge at best and a violent nihilistic war veteran at worst. But the character's true appeal lay in his looks. Beauty can go a long way in masking the ugly.
#31
Bojack Horseman from Bojack Horseman.
Tabitha Frost 3 years ago (edited)
May I ask why? (Edit: I don't watch this show and I'm genuinely curious)
#32
Rorschach from Watchmen. The whole point of the character is he’s a mentally deranged and violent lunatic obsessed with right wing conspiracy theories. He’s an idiot. Even at the end of the book he gathers all this information that can expose the villains crimes, he sacrifices his life to make sure the truth gets out and to do so he sends the info to some no-name local rag that spends half their time reporting on the lizard people and nonsense like that. It’s a character people should cringe at and instead the idiots Rorschach was written to mock think he’s the ultimate badass.
#33
Tom from *500 Days of Summer*
Really liked the character and could associate myself with him in my younger self but he's living in his fantasies more than understanding his reality.
#34
Hannibal Lecter. Not everyone will admit it, but they cheered when Lecter escaped from the cops in Silence of the Lambs by wearing the one cop's face...Because Jonathan Demme painted Lecter almost as the protagonist opposite of Buffalo Bill's antagonist. So, we put aside the fact the man was a cannibal who had murdered multiple people and eaten them...we rooted for Lecter, because we liked him better...
Monday 3 years ago
I don't think anyone sees Lecter as a hero or an idol...he's just that really cool villain we love. Sometimes we like it when the bad guys win.
Kate 3 years ago
He's not supposed to be a "cool villain," he's supposed to illustrate that a monstrous psychopath might look completely normal.
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Andrew Pugg 3 years ago
I think that hannibal is loved and rooted for because of the way Anthony Hopkins played him.
Bored Retsuko 3 years ago
I think the "likeable" thing about him is that he helps Agent Starling track down the villain, and proves himself surprisingly fair and reliable in doing so.
Marlowe Fitzpatrik 3 years ago
I rooted for him because the director of the institution was such a di ck and I didn't like him. (I thought he would turn out to be Buffalo Bill, actually).
John Brant 3 years ago
People like him because he provided a public service...he only eats the "free range rude"
Colin Timp 3 years ago
I still hate that they changed the ending of Hannibal in the movie. In the book, she runs away with him.
#35
scott pilgrim, hands down.
#36
Sephiroth. There are thousands of simps for this guy, myself included; even tho he’s the main antagonist of Final Fantasy 7 and killed a s**t ton of people
Zedrapazia 3 years ago
Good boi might have a return in the second part of the Remake, stay tuned
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Travis Bickle "You talkin' to me?"
Dash Junior 3 years ago (edited)
We can thank Bruce Springsteen for, “You talkin’ to me?” Both de Niro and Scorsese heard Springsteen say that at concerts while Springsteen was singing the song, Quarter to Three.
What do you think ?
Casey McAlister 3 years ago
I'd like to note that liking a character is not like liking a person. You like them not because they are great people, you like them because they are interesting to observe. And characters with questionable morality tend to be the most interesting ones,cause you can't be 100% sure what they are going to do in one or another situation.
tuzdayschild 3 years ago
It's possible to like a great villain without wanting to be that villain. How interesting woud the story be without them. It's not take serious.
René Studer 3 years ago
This whole post pissed me off. It seemed to imply that liking a character is the same thing as agreeing with a characters actions. This is why we can’t have good movies anymore.
Benita Valdez 3 years ago
Thank you. You can love a character that is evil and vile because they were created so amazingly. I mean look, they illicit such intense feelings from people that there are posts like these with so much hate for them. All the hate and revulsion of a character is just testament to the skill of the creator and really deserves the adoration for being so hateable
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BravePanda 3 years ago (edited)
Barney, from How I Met Your Mother. He was played with such charm by Neil Patrick Harris, but is absurdly vile. The character is a lying, manipulative sexual predator. His friends are all aware that he deceives women for his own gain but just laugh it off.
Deborah Harris 3 years ago
He's God, you may as well put Lucifer on here too lol
Load More Replies... Deborah Harris 3 years ago
This is just a personal list of Fictional 'people' the author doesn't like ... it's not the opinion of the masses, so don't take it seriously :)
BasedWang12.3 3 years ago
I had to stop reading this..... bruh they are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS. chill the F out
MimSorensson 3 years ago (edited)
The thing is that cultural icons and ideals are among the most powerful tools in existence in changing human morality and commonly accepted ethics - what people see is what they believe. It really does matter, history clearly shows us that. Not from individual to individual, but over a decade and a society? Oh you bet.
Load More Replies... Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
I'd add Batman. Vigilante weirdo stalking the buildings of Gotham... Ew. See: Gabriel Iglesias on this one. @ 1: 15 onward. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-DfqkT76ag
Q B F T 3 years ago
Gotham could probably do with its resident billionaire investing more in charitable organisations and less in techno gadgets to support his sadist habit of beating up mentally ill poor people
Load More Replies... ben woskje 3 years ago
God doesn't rate a mention on this list ? The most evil, sick, morally depraved fictional character of them all that is idolised by literally billions of equally evil people... ?
Rachel Reynolds 3 years ago
I'm about to get a butt-ton of hate, but...the Christian God is a Mary Sue. Other Gods in other pantheons have flaws and make mistakes and have their own specialty that they do/rule/control. But the Big Guy in the Sky is flawless, knows everything, sees everything and can do anything. Ergo, Mary Sue.
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Casey McAlister 3 years ago
I'd like to note that liking a character is not like liking a person. You like them not because they are great people, you like them because they are interesting to observe. And characters with questionable morality tend to be the most interesting ones,cause you can't be 100% sure what they are going to do in one or another situation.
tuzdayschild 3 years ago
It's possible to like a great villain without wanting to be that villain. How interesting woud the story be without them. It's not take serious.
René Studer 3 years ago
This whole post pissed me off. It seemed to imply that liking a character is the same thing as agreeing with a characters actions. This is why we can’t have good movies anymore.
Benita Valdez 3 years ago
Thank you. You can love a character that is evil and vile because they were created so amazingly. I mean look, they illicit such intense feelings from people that there are posts like these with so much hate for them. All the hate and revulsion of a character is just testament to the skill of the creator and really deserves the adoration for being so hateable
Load More Replies... BravePanda 3 years ago (edited)
Barney, from How I Met Your Mother. He was played with such charm by Neil Patrick Harris, but is absurdly vile. The character is a lying, manipulative sexual predator. His friends are all aware that he deceives women for his own gain but just laugh it off.
Deborah Harris 3 years ago
He's God, you may as well put Lucifer on here too lol
Load More Replies... Deborah Harris 3 years ago
This is just a personal list of Fictional 'people' the author doesn't like ... it's not the opinion of the masses, so don't take it seriously :)
BasedWang12.3 3 years ago
I had to stop reading this..... bruh they are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS. chill the F out
MimSorensson 3 years ago (edited)
The thing is that cultural icons and ideals are among the most powerful tools in existence in changing human morality and commonly accepted ethics - what people see is what they believe. It really does matter, history clearly shows us that. Not from individual to individual, but over a decade and a society? Oh you bet.
Load More Replies... Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
I'd add Batman. Vigilante weirdo stalking the buildings of Gotham... Ew. See: Gabriel Iglesias on this one. @ 1: 15 onward. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-DfqkT76ag
Q B F T 3 years ago
Gotham could probably do with its resident billionaire investing more in charitable organisations and less in techno gadgets to support his sadist habit of beating up mentally ill poor people
Load More Replies... ben woskje 3 years ago
God doesn't rate a mention on this list ? The most evil, sick, morally depraved fictional character of them all that is idolised by literally billions of equally evil people... ?
Rachel Reynolds 3 years ago
I'm about to get a butt-ton of hate, but...the Christian God is a Mary Sue. Other Gods in other pantheons have flaws and make mistakes and have their own specialty that they do/rule/control. But the Big Guy in the Sky is flawless, knows everything, sees everything and can do anything. Ergo, Mary Sue.
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