Millennials Online Are Sharing The Worst Advice And Pearls Of Wisdom They’ve Heard From Baby Boomers And These Are 35 Of The Most Questionable Ones
Learning from older generations is useful and you can receive some valuable advice, but there are also times when you know that older people are wrong. The things they advise you to do might have worked when they were your age, but now it's different and you have to adapt to the changing times.
Reddit user Nursejoyscuntysister wanted to know what advice isn't beneficial and asked, "Millennials of Reddit: What's the worst 'Baby Boomer advice/wisdom' you've ever been offered?" People had a lot to say and showed with which boomer ideas they disagree with a passion.
This is not the first time Bored Panda has talked about boomers' advice that doesn't work anymore, and if you are interested in what out-of-touch wisdom they are telling the younger generation, you can click here after you're done upvoting this list and commenting your own stories.
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I was once told by a baby boomer "If you want a man to stay with you, you'll have to pop out a baby" (or words of that effect). I told her straight up "Any man who would stay for our baby, but not for just me, isn't a man who I'd want staying in the first place".
For f***sakes, is it really that unusual for me to want to be loved for who I am, and not for my ability to procreate? Why would I want to stay with anyone who sees me as nothing but a human incubator?
Gen X here, and I heard this from the "Greatest Generation" (depression-WW2). Yeah, no. If I'm not loved for me, my uterus isn't going to be the deal-breaker.
Yes, this advice including the one about cows and free milk were from the generation before Boomers. It was from our parents and grandparents as we advocated for freedom of choice, relationships without binding legal agreements and choices beyond whether to have children or not.
Load More Replies...If you need a man to stay with you, you should make sure your basement door is securely closed.
That was my great-grandma's motto and her husband left her after she had twins (my grandma's sisters).
This has changed thanks to feminism. Back in the boomers day a woman couldn't have a bank account, own a car, or rent an apartment in her own name. Feminism gave us the rights and privileges to survive without a husband.
As a girl: "If a boy bullies you, that means he likes you!"
No. Just... no.
I've never bullied a girl that I liked. This abusive stereotype needs to stop.
I think of my sweet nephew who went on his first date and brought roses.
Load More Replies...There are nicer ways to like someone. I read of a little boy who wanted to hug a little girl at day care, but she didn't want a hug. His parents told him, "No hug, say bye-bye". So he waved bye-bye to her. When they got home, he wanted to hug the cat. The cat ran off. The little boy waved to the cat and said, "No hug, say bye-bye".
Absolutely was told that. Had a boy tormenting me in 8th grade and when I told them they smiled and said he must have a crush on me. Like I should be happy I'm being tormented? Like torment as a sign of affection is normal???
This idea is so absolutely stupid, how can it be repeated again and again? If somebody tells this kind of bullshīt I want to hit them square in the face and then say, yes, why, I really like you, didn't you know?!
Load More Replies...Yeah! If he's ABUSIVE that means he wants to stay with you FOREVER! Clearly, you don't get the POINT. When you get beaten to a pulp every day in front of the kids he forced you to have, then you're LUCKY cause some people don't even HAVE a house or kids or a husband. Suck it up and just deal with it! Oh, and here's your complimentary rope and pistol, choose how you're gonna go.
It should be the other way around too. The fact that people don't acknowledge that men can have abusive girlfriends is sickening. Freaking psycho.
Load More Replies...If someone bullies you, he is an entitled ass that will take advantage of anyone. Dating him just means he will take advantage of you in different ways.
THis applies to girls too. THey can be abusive too, you psycho.
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"You don't deserve to make a livable wage at McDonalds, get a real job"
Followed by:
"What, are you too good to work at McDonalds? Grow up and stop being entitled and do what you gotta do."
All jobs should be entitled to a livable wage. This even being a debate is sickening.
I would question if its even a debate,to me it seems more like folks making say 13-18$ an hour feel threatened. They had to work their way up to that point generally and do not want it handed to folks for what they precieve as nothing. The fact is lost that by doing so you are enabling businesses to be welfare queens. They dont pay enough to live but still make plenty of profit and the government ( AKA - your own taxes dollars from your 13-18/hr job) has to subsidize these folks with cash. food stamps etc. Its a very shortsighted and fear driven response. javascript:void(0);
Load More Replies...Any job that requires an entire day's work should at the very least have a livable wage.
Weird isn't it. MacDonalds literally makes billions every year, but then pretends its not a "real job" or "real company" when it comes time to pay staff..
If I'm getting paid and supporting myself somehow, I did something right. If anyone has issues with it, tough cookies.
"Babies just need love, not money."
Sorry, mom, no grandkids until I have a job with a decent paycheck and less student debt.
Boomer here - and I encourage you guys to put off having kids until you're ready (or not to bother at all). There are far too many humans on the planet as it is (and yes, this is my generation's fault, not yours - we talked about Zero Population Growth in the '70s, but it fizzled out after the fiasco with China's 1-child policy) Sigh
Gen X here. 47. Married 22yrs and we never had kids (by choice). I knew I didn't want kids since I was a small child. Many boomers and others said I would regret it. I can with absolute certainty say BEST CHOICE EVER. I've made mistakes but this was not one of them. As I get older, I appreciate my choice more. It's cruel & selfish to bring kids into a literal burning planet. Until we rectify this, we condemn our kids to "The Road" distopian future.
Load More Replies...Nope. Money is required for food, clothing, healthcare, etc. Gen X here. Not just "boomer advice." just smart advice.
Wow. Children are *incredibly* expensive and that sounds like the sort of opinion that comes from someone who also complains about welfare going to people who had children they couldn't afford.
Too many have kids without considering the bigger picture. Ask yourself if you are financially, emotionally and physically ready BEFORE.
I am having a kid soon (as a millennial) and I waited into my 30's to make sure I had a good job, a home, transportation and not a lot of debt before I even considered having a kid. It is strange to me when people start popping them out before they are 20.
Boomers started marrying later than their mothers changed the whole notion of what women could do.
Religions labelling procreation as a huge plus in their divine ledger and forbidding contraceptives doesn't help either.
Yes, because love buys diapers, daycare, toys, clothes, and formula (if needed), and pays the mortgage and utilities, right?
Well, in those days nobody *bought* diapers. They were cloth, you washed, boiled and used them again-- unless you had enough money to pay a diaper service to do it for you.
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The lab tech at one of the schools I teach at is a retired old fella. Comes in maybe 2 hours a day, real early in the morning to set up labs for the day. Basically has the "job" for his own entertainment.
One morning he caught me in the hall and somehow got into telling me how I really ought to find a job with a good pension. Apparently he worked for some commercial chemistry research lab and retired early once he qualified for their pension program. Then, him and some buddies took some of their early retirement money and bought a big parcel of land. They arranged to have it incorporated into a town, that they ran, then sold off pieces of it for housing developments.
So, he's going through this little history lesson in how the economy used to work and I just stand there and nod. In the back of my head, it dawns on me. He thinks I'm an adjunct by choice. He thinks I teach part-time at three different schools with no advancement potential and minimal benefits because I like it.
Hey Boomers, the reason why us god dammed Millenials aren't doing things the way you used to is that those things don't exist anymore. There's no career track jobs in science with just a MS. There's no more salary for life company pensions. I can't just go "buy me some land" and flip it for a profit.
and there are no pension monthly annuity type retirement programs anymore unless you work for the government... in the US, they only have 401k type retirements in the private sector... people are living longer, they got tired of paying a monthly annuity to people who are in their 90s or even over 100..
I have worked for the US Forest Service for many years. Even they have backed off the idea of government funded pensions. People who retired decades years ago had it better. But for the last twenty years or so the brunt of government retirement falls on the individuals contribution to their 401k.
Load More Replies...The whole idea of working for one company where come retirement time you get to live nicely off a pension is long gone. I'm a Boomer & that pretty much ended with my parent's generation. I retire this year & I sure won't be rolling in money. I'll be watching every penny & I will go hungry before the cat will do without everything she needs. I live in Canada and I live in a very expensive province. The number of over 65rs I see working minimum wage because they have to just to squeeze by is sad. WARNING! The fine line between not enough, & believe it or not, too much experience is a thin one. Found out by folks laid -off, in their 40s and 50s. Too much, not hiring you. The no experience thing makes me nuts. How do you get experience if you can't get a job in the first place you idiot prospective employers?! Employers! Your first job probably came because someone took a chance and gave you the chance. Pay it forward folks. We DO OWE the next generation a chance.
Advancements in technology, increase in population, and the mentality of "get a degree" over starting an apprenticeship at 16 to make a career, have all culminated into a mess for people now trying to find a decent job. If everyone gets a "living wage" them prices go up and suddenly it isn't a living wage anymore.
There is almost zero person's out there pre Millenial that can (or really should) give career advice. Things change too fast in the world and in particular in America with it's capitalism at all cost, boom or bust economy.
1/3 of people my age live at home with three jobs and no car because s**t is expensive these days, the value of the US dollar is garbage, and no one pays a living wage anymore. This doesn't include the student loan debt that people are struggling to pay off. Can't get a good career without college. Can't get college for free. Trade schools cost money, too. Your 1950's lifestyle no longer exists. Gas isn't 25 cents a gallon. F**k.
I've been at my job for 12 years. Still no pension. I'm just grateful to have decent health insurance.
Seriously, look into starting your own pension fund. You control it and it goes with you when you change jobs. The sooner you can start it, the more you'll accumulate.
Load More Replies...your a loser. you can do anything if you get after it . people do it all the time
It never was easy for Boomers. Many of us didn't get the jobs we had hoped with our college degrees and were laid off . The idea that Boomers had it good is pure myth.
It was a big generation and everyone was competing for the same jobs.
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I love being told "be grateful you /have/ a job!"
Then they look on in horror as I explain that I can't afford to live on my own while working over 40 hours a week. I don't get vacations. I don't get sick days. I get absolutely no paid time off, even for s*** like Christmas. No time to pursue things I enjoy, no money to see a doctor about my deteriorating jaw.
But it's not their problem, you know? They get to walk away from the conversation.
I hear my employers say this all the time. Especially during the pandemic. Sad.
The worst I heard was from a woman living alone in Toronto (an expensive city) and making minimum wage. Her boss turned down her request for a raise: "You don't have a kid, you don't have a mortgage, you don't have a car. You don't need more money." As if he would give her a big enough raise to cover those costs.
Load More Replies...We *should* because people do die from this. Infections in your brain, heart... And this girl sounds like she doesn't need the expense of a heart operation either, if she's lucky enough to survive it.
Load More Replies...I used to think in more extreme terms. "At least I'm not living in a grass hut in Africa", or something to that effect.
The term "wage slave" was coined a long time ago. Too much truth in the words.
I'm assuming this is USA? I work in entertainment in the middle east (Dubai) I get insurance, 30 days paid holiday, housing and a flight to my home country covered by the company every year.
I hate it when employers tell you that you can be easily replaced. Apparently, not at my last job. There was almost 100% turnover between retirement and unhappy people.
"You know, your generation doesn't understand that you have to buy a house as young as possible to pay it off quickly". No old man, we get it. We're broke as f*** making 1/3 of what you do in the same work place.
What is seen as "necessary" for younger folks in some cultures? Is sheer luxury. To me, too, and I'm Gen X. I don't own a cell phone. Why would I? It's wasteful. Gaming? It's a deck of cards. My priorities are: stay out of debt, stay fed, clothed and housed. The end.
I'm sorry, you're commenting on BP, you're in no position to call a cell phone a luxury.
Load More Replies...Looking up old newspapers in the library for something and I saw a house on my street being sold for $18,000 back in 1970. The same house sold a few months ago for close to $800,000. That's 44 times more expensive. Salaries have only gone up about 10 times.
Same over here. My dad earned about half I earn at my age. He bought a house with a garden for 32,000. If I want to buy the exact same house now (it's currently on sale), asking price is 320,000. Also, he had no college education and no debt. My student debt alone could have paid for two houses in my dad's time.
Load More Replies...and having to spend more than 3x what that person probably paid for a house, too... e_e
This is the thing that pisses me off about my parents. They were always going on about how I should get a place of my own and not be paying "Dead Money" in rent. There are people out there who have a much MUCH bigger wage than I who can't get on the property ladder and if you want to you have to have a deposit of at least 25% first. No way I could come up with that kind of money. Then they go on about how they got their first house in their early 20s. Back then there was literally full employment. In England back in the early 60s if you started a job on the monday, found you didn't like it, you could quit and start a new job on the following Tuesday or Wednesday. My dad knew someone who actually did that. No way you could do that now. So my parents had their own home, job security and a lifestyle that I could only dream about and to this day my mother still thinks life was so tough for her because, back then she didn't have an automatic washing machine. God love them🙄
Until Reagan destroyed unions it was okay to work in a factory or some other job because you had a livable wage and benefits. 70% of the workforce was in a union up until 30 yrs ago, now its less than 5%
This is exactly the problem. Someone is sitting here telling you they don't make enough money. You've probably never worried about money in your life. 80% of ppl in this country make $15 an hour or less. That is NOT enough to be buying a house, let alone renting an apartment on your own.
You can quadriple your investment in crack Everytime yo! Slang some sacks yo !
Load More Replies...I brought this up with my mom and she told me that in comparison with the wages and prices of yore and today's wages and prices it wasn't much better. It was just easier to get a loan from the bank and people were taking out long mortgages, not spending much on leisure, and sacrificed a lot of fun and vacations to pay off their mortgages.
It was better in days of yore. In late 80s minimum wage was half it was today, but rent for a house was 375. Now, minimum wage has doubled, but a one bedroom apartment will cost over 1000. Gas has gone up 4 times. This silly narrative of " oh just cut out the frivolous expenses" is wrong.
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"Go outside, get some fresh air! Your mental illness is just in your head! Laugh and smile more, you'll be fine 😊😊😊"
From a family member. 4 years of therapy in and I still struggle daily.
Are you worried? Well, don't worry about it! Jeez thanks i didn't think of that
My favorite "Why do you want to be so depressed?" :/
Load More Replies...To those people I say, "I'm gonna break your femur with a sledgehammer and tell you 'you'll be fine, it's all in your leg!'"
That ignorant comment is due to the person being heartless and ignorant not because they're a boomer.
When my mom told me that my depression was, "all in [my] head" I looked at her and replied, "Yes...yes it is. That's why it's called MENTAL illness and not foot illness."
A mental disease is an actual disease. A personality disorder is when your brain's neurological pathways vary from "normal". Both things are legitimate brain issues. Do not tell me to wake up earlier, smile more and get over myself. My PTSD, depression, anxiety and attachment disorder is a REAL THING. It's like telling someone with cancer to smile more and to stop throwing up and to stop dying. Now. SMILE!!
I've suffered (and am suffering) with quite serious depression, but I will say there can be a benefit to feeling like it's all in your head and you can have control over it. The constant reinforcement that it's ok to stop functioning properly over mental health can exacerbate issues, at least for some. Minimising or trivialising mental health isn't just done because people are insensitive, it can, if done properly, help make things seem manageable rather than overwhelming. Of course, many get the nuances wrong, but I'm not against being told to just get on with things - even if I can't when it's being said.
I'm not super open about the type of music I listen to but I've been told my a Team Leader and my mom that my mood will improve if I change the type of music I listen to. I told them I was jamming to "Work Bitch' by Britney Spears on the way to work.
Music does affect mood. But you still have to like it before it will help.
Load More Replies...I'm a boomer and my mother would say what have you got to be depressed about? This is not a new thing, generation after generation have dealt with being treated as inept or lazy because they couldn't cope with life.
Technically your brain is in your head... but that's about all they got correct, smh.
This usually comes from people that need therapy themselves.
Talking to my dad recently, he was going on about "participation trophies." When I pointed out that we wouldn't have received said participation trophies had his generation not invented them, his response was: "Yep, that's another problem with your generation. Always blaming your faults on other people."
Gen Xer here, if that matters, and I don't recall a participation award for anything. Ever. Nor my hubby or other Gen-X friends, so.... no idea where those started, or why, but they confuse me.
It was so the losers of games wouldn't whine - and I'm talking about the parents not the kids.
Load More Replies...I'm a Millennial and have never gotten one of these. I went to three elementary schools, four middle schools, and three high schools (we moved a lot). Not one single school in four different states did anything like this. Did these actually happen or are they some myth made up to explain why younger generations are "entitled"?
I went to kindergarten at the first of my three first grades, two second grades, one middle school, and two high schools = eight in total. NOT a military family...
Load More Replies...the funny thing is blaming their faults on other people was literally what his dad was doing when he said those words.
Participation trophies are good for young children. One must take the recipients' level of development into consideration.
They aren't. It's more important to learn how to lose early on. That's what life will give them sooner or later.
Load More Replies...Why would it be the children's fault when it was the parents who complained to the league and demanding a trophy for their extra special little kids. Or a business owner who wanted to massively increase his sales by selling not only "Champions" trophies but also "thanks for showing up" ones.
"You'll feel different when they're your own children."
Yeah I'm not willing to take that risk. Also I'm poor.
Yeah i don't like risks either! And what if i don't change my mind? Can i return them?
Exactly! What am I supposed to do when I still feel the same way? Just give them away? It's better to regret not having kids than to regret having kids.
Load More Replies...Right, count me as one of them. Had a father who realized he didn't want kids when they were 14 & 15. Like left. Didn't take any photos or proof that we even happened. So that's fun baggage to carry around.
Load More Replies...I've also never run my car into a brick wall or sawed off one arm with a butter knife, but I'm fairly sure neither of those are good ideas either.
My mother told me to, "Just get a job. Tons of places are hiring."
Though, she has come to understand the struggle now as she spends all day applying to jobs and not getting a single call back.
In the 80s when I was desperately looking for a job (with 4 million unemployed) my dad told me it was easy. “Just go to a company and ask for a job”. “Dad - it’s the 1980s not the 1950s!” 🙄
I have noticed that without exception, people babbling about "tons of places are hiring" are financially comfortable themselves and don't have to apply for work, let alone actually put up with a crap job. In case such people are living in caves, it should be obvious at this point that most of the places screaming for new employees right now are the sh!tholes that pay slave wages for life-sucking labor.
Not to mention that you have to fill out an online application, upload a resume and a cover letter, have at least 3 references and 2 years of experience in the field-and then manually enter your resume into the blank boxes?
Load More Replies...But wait till you are over 50, it's worse, and I had an IT career too, but no us old ladies are your PC illiterate nanna don't you know.
All kinds of trap door spiders in IT too. Your main clients are taken over and have to use different software, not yours. Your company decides it's going a new route that doesn't use your skillset, and they won't retrain you. Y2K aftermath. Your company gets bought out for the customer list, who will be converted to new software; you stay employed only during the conversion. F'em, went to work on contracts and projects; at least it was upfront.
Load More Replies...I inquired about a job opening at a local supermarket and the employee thought I was asking for my teen daughter. It gave the impression they're only interested in hiring students. And then I felt ashamed and thinking they now think I'm being selfish for taking a job away from my daughter, who has an intellectual disability and is getting into a program to help her find work suited for her needs. But I didn't feel that was their business to explain all that to them.
Same for me, everytime I look for a job, it's hell!! I sent tons of applications, got called for a few interview, then never called again, unless it's a " sorry we find someone else" type of call...
I ended up skipping the middle man. I work directly for the customers now.
They told my Dad this during the Great Depression long before Boomers existed.
"You'll have little ones of your own someday."
No the f*** I won't. Those little bastards tore up my house over the holidays and the mom did nothing but nap on my couch.
I decided at 12 that I didn't want kids, and I never regretted it.
By 8 I knew. I'm 47 now. The older I get, the more I know I made the best choice. You won't regret not having kids but very like resent & regret if you do.
Load More Replies...From how young? I find it fascinating I guess I'm a breeder lol I only have one kid but I can remember as far back as 4-5 that I was certain I was going to be a mum one day. When did you know that wasn't what you wanted? I wonder what determines how we feel about It? Sorry I'm just lost in thought not trying to question you to pieces!
Load More Replies...i told my mom i would give her one biological kid. the other kids I'm going to take in are going to be teenagers so they'll have a loving place to stay
You hit the problem right there. People think it's a self-automated process and they don't have to DO anything besides feed and clothe the little buggers. It's a lot more more work to bring up a child who is going to respect others, respect the law and contribute to the world instead of take, take, take.
Load More Replies...I don't know why people feel they have to pressure others to have kids. It's not like the human race is going to die out if 1 in 10 people decide they don't want them, or even 1 in 5.
when i met my wife she told me she never wants to get kid. but in her 30's she change her mind. we have 3 and i put a stop to that because i guess we would have more. people mind are subject to change. we are separated now i have to say i find the house freaking empty when they're not here.
"You can't get a job in management out of college, you have to start in the mailroom."
Uuuh... To get a job in the mailroom you need five years experience. That or work for free because internship. And when we have five figure student loans to repay we can't exactly work for free cause unpaid internships don't put food on the table or gas in our cars...
I always get the impression when you start at a new company you have to start from the bottom again.
Actually, from what I've seen, moving companies is often the only way to make more money or move up the ladder.
Load More Replies...It is a shame all those entry level jobs have gone away- mail clerk, file clerk, receptionist, secretary, etc. You could get your foot into a company or industry you wanted to work for while still earning a low, bur decent enough salary and benefits. Then you could learn the industry and company and really could work your way up. That was how I did it and avoided a ton of college debt. Now they want a degree for all entry level jobs. Everyone loses with this model, the companies and the employees.
This seems mostly an American problem, we certainly don't have "unpaid interns" aka slaves here as there is sort of a law against it.
I also hate when you have the experience to be a manager but you cannot because there is this rule that the manager cannot be younger than the employees and has to be over 40 years old because you won't be able to stand your ground! Usually even more difficult if you are a woman
I had no problem working for a manager younger than me. One time I was asked to be an Assistant Nurse Manager working evening shift because they couldn't keep someone in that position for very long and I ended up doing it in the long periods in between managers anyway.The nurses on the floor liked me in that position because I HELPED OUT on the floor when needed. I'm not manager material full-time. I've got to get out there at the bedside to be truly happy. So, younger manager? Bring them on. More than happy to as long as they can do that job well. Thats what matters. Not your age.
Load More Replies...Hence why I hate unpaid internships. I've heard of people losing good paying jobs because the company converted the position to an unpaid internship. Unless you are getting access to certain equipment or programs that are super expensive (Adobe Creative Suite doesn't count) or it is a non profit, a person should be paid at least minimum wage. Besides, who gets mail anymore? 99% of my job is Outlook.
When my son got his degree 10ish years ago, couldn't get a job unless he had 2 yrs experience. How do you get 2 or so years of experience if no one will hire you? So he worked for a temp service.... the companies pay then $35 per hour to temp service and they in turn pay the worker $15-18. What do ya do? What a rip off.
I think unpaid internships should be illegal. It's free labor for a company that's probably making billions and not paying taxes.
Utterly unfair. You don't get a job you are qualified to do through years of schooling, you get whatever nobody else wants to do, so 'the newbie' will sure do it. 'You are young, you can do it all.'
I find this a very weird logic - nowadays you do have apprenticeship kind of education in some fields, but usually you go to school and learn something and apply for that job. Who would willingly go to mailroom if they spent years studying for management kind of job. Of course you won't be a CEO straight out of school unless you startup. But nowadays these kind of "off topic" jobs are liability instead of asset in job search.
"You have to go out and pound the pavement, dear. You can't spend all day looking for jobs on the computer."
My mom was like "go in and ask for the boss so you can hand him your documents." Sure mom, the boss of the 4K employee-Company's only waiting for me to hand him some papers. E-Mails are so impersonal...
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Load More Replies...Companies hate people calling or coming in asking if they're hiring. You will be told to go to their website.
Um. Hello? Newsflash people! That's the way it's done these days. Boomer talking here.
If it's a smaller local company or agency you are applying to it worth to put on your best clothes, put your CV in a decent folder, visit their office and hand it over personally. You will definitely stand out and likely your CV will be on the top of the pile. But don't forget to apply online either.
It took me SO long to get my parents to grasp this concept. They're from the silent generation so quite possibly worse than boomers
My grandma suggest I try to apply to the hospital for a position as a switchboard operator, a manual switchboard operator.
Load More Replies...The last time I "pounded the pavement" looking for a job, I got myself a stalker who used to call in the middle of the night to discuss personal information that he could have only found out from my resume. It was before caller ID.
My first retail job, any time I complained about customers or coworkers to my father I would get, "You just have to suck it up. It builds character, and you'll always have something you don't like about your job or coworkers." A few years ago, he lost his help desk job, and nobody wanted to hire him on for an IT position when he's just a couple years shy of retirement age and doesn't have a degree. After a couple years of being unemployed, he realized the gig was up, and took a part time job working in a grocery store across the street from the one I had in high school.
Now, whenever I go to visit him, I always hear something like, "Can you believe this b****, shikitohno? I just finished building a goddamn corn pyramid, has to be 7 feet tall, and she wants one from the center on the bottom, because she says she can tell those are the freshest. Can you believe it?" No, dad, not a clue at all what you're talking about, but you're character sure seems to be growing.
I worked at a very good family-run video store in San Francisco in the ‘90s, and I could sometimes get feisty with customers, and some of them would complain to my boss, and then he’d come in on an afternoon, call me into his office, let out the longest, saddest sigh you’ve ever heard, and say “Mary Rose, you have to be nice to the customers.” Fortunately, I also had customers who loved me, I was a very hard worker, and had a vast knowledge of film to the point where neighborhood film people would ask for my assistance. What I didn’t know then is that low-grade depression can express itself as crankiness and I should have gone back on my meds for a few years, but that didn’t happen. He was a very good boss and I know it pained him to have to sigh at me like that, but I managed to scrape along for seven years.
Load More Replies..."It builds character" is just an impolite way of saying "Shut the 🤬 Up!"
thick skin makes you less triggered by something as trivial as wind blowing in the wrong direction or dealing with a b*tchy person for 2 minutes....so he's not wrong.
Working in retail certainly made me less triggered when shopping. If mistakes happen, I'm usually patient and I'll thank the employee for their help in correcting it.
Load More Replies...Retail, food service and customer service workers are treated like absolute trash, have no benefits, get paid minimal wage and get worked to death. But yeah, we have GREAT character!
Wouldn't be a problem outside the US, nowhere else has quite mastered the whole "the customer is always right, especially when they're wrong" mentality.
To all generations out there, from Boomers to yes, Gen X. What goes around will eventually come around.
Marry your own people out of culture and god...
Little did they know I was a Muslim turned Atheist and hated how the women in my country were treated as house wives instead of actual people.
Marry who you love, care about and willing to spend time together. It doesn't matter what race or ethnicity they are at all.
Good words to live by.... just one problem, well a few actually. There is family. They can make life hell of the don't love your ChosenOne too. And then there is society ...always watching..always judging... and not shy to share their opinion of you or your choices. You have to try and ignore the noise.
Load More Replies...these days, it is hard to get a marriage to last 30 to 50 years like was common with the WW2 generation ... marrying someone of the same race, class, educational background, life expectations, same moral standards, and religion removes at least 50% of the conflicts that cause marriages to fail later on... there will still be problems, but taking these big areas for potential conflict out of the way increases the odds of long-term success... before you start screaming at me in the reply comments, think for a minute of the marriages that last long term... better to not start a marriage with the deck stacked against you... yes, I will be the first to admit that all these rules can be broken, & there are examples of glorious long-term success stories for many happy marriages where these rules have been ignored, but these cases are rare... yes, "Love Conquers All", but you have to have an enormous amount of love banked up in reserve to overcome the conflicts that will come up
Women are treated worse than animals in most countries, not just the Muslim ones.
i'm a christian, who is becoming more athiest as I grow up, and my Christians parents have cut off all contact I have to my girlfriend that lives in a different state then I do (I'm a girl irl)
I guess I'm on the old side of the millennials, but I had numerous people tell me not to go into computer science and instead go into some other engineering field because computer scientists didn't make good money, wasn't a good job, not a good fit, etc. Glad I didn't listen to any of them as I make a really good salary now. Why the heck would I take advice on entering a high tech field from people who can barely use a computer?
I finally learned to humour people who give bad advice: "That's a good idea, thanks, I'll check it out." Then do what works for me. Wish I'd figured that out yeeeeeears ago when my MIL bugged me to have kids: "Great idea, I'll go poke holes in your son's condoms right now!" Five years later: "Maybe I need to use knitting needles?"
I do dislike it when older people get all lumped in to "can't use a computer" just because they can't touch-type or know how the latest software works. Computers are fundamentally the same, expecting people to magically know the new software is unfair
I hate it when people assume that just because of my age. I was working as a Word Processor (pre-PC days) before most people had any idea of what that was.
Load More Replies...I would say the pay is decent and we have a real shortage of computer scientists and programmers, so finding work isn't usually an issue if you are qualified.
I started a Computer Science (Software Dev) degree but dropped out. There are just too many irrelevant subjects. I have done a bit of programming over the years and one thing I never needed was algebra. There was also two calculus subjects, I don't even know what it is but didn't need that either. Profs couldn't explain how it was relevant which leads me to believe that some dead subjects are just taught to try and keep them alive and relevant. Heard of an internet calculator professors?
I loved algebra and was thinking that once the pandemic is well and truly over, I’m hoping to track down a community college not too far away from my small town and take it all over again. It’s a thing of beauty.
Load More Replies...My exes dad just retired from his computer IT/analyst job. He could build a computer. But I did notice the amount of stress he was put under and how unstable the job was. He ended up taking a part-time job before officially retiring.
I was told that computers will be obsolete in the future when I wanted to go study computer stuff. Then I was told that there's no way in making a living with art. Needed signatures to be able to apply to the study programs I was interested in when I was still underage. Now I'm trying to become a game artist after struggling for 14 years after high school. Had a different career path for a while too, but had to change plans due to medical issues.
Yes, but all engineering fields offer great opportunities, especially now. Glad you picked something you like, but it wasn't terrible advice.
Don't go to a trade school, that's beneath you.
Thanks, Mom. This Film degree from a Liberal Arts school is really paying the bills.
Such a misconception. There are a ton of great jobs in trades. It's what's in constant demand.
People in my neighborhood use plumbers, electricians, carpenters and hair dresses a lot more than we use film directors, graffers, film writers and ...well you get the idea.
Load More Replies...No matter what, someone is always gonna need a plumber. And since you're the one who went to trade school to learn to be one, who they gonna call?
False dichotomy. You didn't have to get a film degree. Please own your choices.
Yeah, that's totally her fault, not yours for making this stupid choice... /s
Agree. Just finnished last year at 41. Got a permanent, well paying job that I actually love and amazing coworkers.
Load More Replies...Do go to a trade school. It is not beneath you. It pays well. And there are always opening because people think its "beneath" them. Jon signs up for a plumbers apprenticship the same time that Suzy goes to college to be a dr. by the time she's finally done with schooling I bet Jon has a great paying job, no student loans, and a nest egg...
What is "Liberal arts" exactly? I see this term so frequently and have no clue what is it about. Tried readiong on wikipedia, but it rpretty much says that's "about life"
Plumber isn't sexy, but plumber gets paid. Drop the ego of attempting to impress people with job titles and get a trade job and join a union.
I was an instructor at a Vocational School. Taught students to work in the Medical Front Office. Unless they were a real doozy, most of them were hired immediately.
Dad told me when I was young that interracial relationships would never work. He said that "there's a reason the black birds are with black birds and the red birds are with the red birds. Its just nature." I've been with my ethnically different girlfriend for a long time now. Probably the best person I've ever met.
Black birds aren't with red birds because they're a different species. Unless your girlfriend is a different species you'll be fine.
In some bird species, the male is very colourful while the female is brown (or similar colour that allows her to hide in the vegetation), so it's not even true for all birds.
Load More Replies...Because those birds are not the same f*****g species! They are biologically uncompatible!
I mean I am white and my hubby is black and we are the happiest we have ever been in our lives. I absolutely love him because he is a good quality person!
But you won't see a mouse with an elephant because the mouse would explode.
My boss recently told me my generation was entitled, and began quoting various articles on how we all think we're special and exempt from criticism etc
AS I was shoveling a dead rat out of the doorway.
"Young people don't know how to work" ---- my elderly neighbor, to the granddaughter who cleans his house every day atop her own job/home/family.
My generation: That kind of crap is degrading. It's our job to encourage. And a thank you goes a long way too. Get started folks!
I cannot tell you how many times I get told by people that I'm an entitled white rich bitch princess....when I'm on Medicaid and when I get food stamps and then on top of it, I just got emergency custody of my 10 year old daughter and I'm living in my parent's basement, cleaning their house 20 hours a week for free in order to have a bedroom for me and a bedroom for my daughter. They have several rental properties and several renters. I'm also in medical school on a scholarship and have no job. Yeah, I'm soooooooooooooooooooooo rich and entitled. My parents and I don't share a bank account, they don't give me money and they don't pay for anything special.
“Why aren’t you doing anything?” — my mom, after I helped her sync her Apple Watch with her iPhone. “Is that the best you can do?” — my dad, after a school day consisting of two tests and a project. “I know you can do better.” — one of my Taekwondo masters, who knows I have both childhood brain cancer and epilepsy. (This isn’t too often, but still.)
Not really advice but my neighbor was complaining about how useless and lazy millennials are after I snowblowed their driveway today. Only, it used to be their snowblower. They misused it, broke it, and I fixed it, and I've been doing their driveway ever since. But whatever I'm just some lazy 20-something full time student with a job and enough time to turn wrenches in the garage.
They have a saying in my country : "trop bon, trop con". It literally means "too good, too dumb". I think they are right. Some people are too good for their own good. Be meaner, it is ealthier for you.
same in tuscany: "troppo buono vuol dire bischero" that has similar meaning...
Load More Replies...Just goes to show. Being of good character doesn't come with the advancement in age. You are a genuinely good person to do that. What they should be doing is inviting you in for something hot to drink and maybe banana bread for being out in the cold doing that. Oh. And a small thank you gift at Xmas.
Time to stop letting them take advantage of your kindness. Walk away and let them really understand what lazy is. They might need to a mirror.
Perhaps they weren't speaking of you, but appreciate the fact that you're not 1 of them.
Just because you did s**t in the past, doesb't mean you can be lazy now and tell others that tgey are lazy
Were they a boomer, or gen-x which were the generation that really started the "pay someone rather than fix it themselves" mentality? It's flipped again so some millennials (but mostly younger than that) are realising the importance of fixing things and making them last. Shame so much is from China and can't be repaired.
"Just go to college even if you don't know what you want to do."
I don't mind that I went to college but I would have been soo much better of doing a trade. Now it's just a pool of competition to get job which encourages employers to lower the benefits due to the number of persons unemployed.
In the US, the skilled trades & the training required are underappreciated. The entire focus in most high schools is on getting into college & getting at least an undergraduate degree, preferably an advanced,. Many of us old folks wish it were not this way.
Load More Replies...I'm Gen X and I will definitely be encouraging my Gen Z kid to go to trade school before or instead of college. There's no reason to wait tables for tips while you get your degree - the trades pay $25/hr +.
Nooooooo! Do not incur the debt and then be left without career options! If you don't know, then at least rule out what you do NOT want by living a bit first!
One of my teenage nephews wanted to study cooking. His father wanted him to go to university. I told his mother "Let him work in a restaurant or cafe and if he's still interested after that, he can learn to be a chef." He worked in a kitchen for several months, then decided to study communications in university. He's still interested in food, but it's a hobby.
Load More Replies...In the US, if you don't know what you are going to collage for then you're wasting roughly 20,000 a semester for a class you will probably never use. Terrible advice like this can land someone in a mountain of debt.
Going to college without knowing what you want to do can lead to finding something you DO want to do. There's nothing wrong with being undecided. Employers see college on your resume & many times don't care about your major, but only that you have higher education.
It would make absolute sense if there were publicly funded financing for college, as was the case in the 1980's and before. Now lending institutions are closer to predatory models. College degrees for the most part are preferable by employers over all else, unless you just want, or want to be a cog in a wheel. There aren't to my knowledge that many trade schools (maybe tech) in existence any more, and many of them no matter what, can guarantee a consistent job. Lots of jobs people get through them, are still paying either lower than historical levels or demanding horrific hours in return.
I was forced to go to a "real college" and it is probably my biggest regret. I still have no idea what I want to do.
Depends on where you live. If it's the US, maybe not. If it's a country that subsidizes education, it is probably worth it just for the experience even if you get a degree that wont directly help you in a career.
I was getting my masters degree and we had a guest lecturer come in. He had been CEO of a small company for many years. He basically told us that he stumbled into the job right out of college because he didn't know what to do and gave it a shot. They gave him the assistant CEO position because he had been the assistant manager at a movie theater for a summer. And then 2 years later he became the CEO.
He was basically telling this entire class of people getting their advance degrees in the hopes to get his position that he got his job on a whim 30 years ago.
Bull s**t, that doesnt happen anymore for anything. Ive not gotten jobs Im qualified for because I dont have a degree.
Welcome to today's world. Get used to it. It'll only get worse.
Load More Replies...So what he's saying is that we need to be either lucky or privileged? I'm neither so I guess I'm destined to suffer.
Tim Cook didn’t become CEO of Apple on a whim. Fun fact: at first, he didn’t even want to.
They should have invited Tim Cook instead. Or, they should have shown Steve Jobs’ speech (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuw8hxrFBH8).
He actually had a good point with tgat personal story... only the point he didn't want them to know
The valuable lesson here is that luck is as important as hard work and skill. Without all three, you will not achieve greatness. Luck of birth, luck or right place-right time, luck of just stumbling into a good situation.
Family/friend connections plus the economic era you’re born into are more reliable indicators of your job prospects than academic achievement - thus ever it was at all levels of employment.
My mom encouraged me to walk in and give my resume to the manager at our local grocery store because "seeing you face to face makes a difference" thinking it would help. I was given a physical application by a cashier, basically begged to see manager, he showed up, I gave him my resume, shook his hand, he said thank you but looked annoyed at being interrupted and went back to work. Few weeks later they hired a new cashier, she was the cousin of one of the people that worked there. welcome to the new job market, millennials.
There is something to be said for this approach in certain situations as it’s easier to say “No” to someone applying by email over phone or face to face.
Having an active network is definitely a huge advantage, it surpasses frequently having a better skillset......................
It does help to have a “silver tongue” but nepotism is rampant. Trust me if you ever want to eat from a grocery store again don’t work at one
Millennials are born from 1980 to 1996. Most of them are in their late 20's to early 40's.
My friend's dad got a fantastic job right out of college (with an unrelated bachelor's degree) by LITERALLY GOING INTO A RANDOM BANK DOWNTOWN AND REFUSING TO LEAVE UNTIL THEY GAVE HIM A JOB.
Can you even imagine? Can you??
Yeah, really...today they would call the cops and you'd get 72 hours in the psych ward.
Load More Replies...I can easily see myself getting "quietly escorted from the building" but thats about it! Lol!
... and i also want the police away, an escape plane and a million dollars in small notes!!!
My grandfather got a well paid job in construction (as boss not worker) without even a bachellor. F*****s
my parents worked for the phone company for 30 years without any kind of college education. They were replaced by engineers (with master's degrees) upon their forced retirement (with a lucrative severance package)
Load More Replies...What I can imagine is me being arrested if I tried something like this today.
they still think you can put on your best suit and walk right into any company, shake the CEO's hand and look him right in the eye, and start the next day.
everything is online and entry level positions require 3-5 years experience with no hope for advancement and s*** benefits (if any) and below average salary
"but just start a business if you cant find something!" whatever that means
"Just start a business. -What kind of business? -I don't know. A business, okay ?!"
My daughter and son-in-law have only ever had jobs they created. Nothing requiring college. A cleaning business, lawn care, auto detailing, tailor, small engine repair, etc. They make as much or more than many college grads, with no debt. Which is just sad. On the down side, no benefits, no paid time off of any kind, no insurance, etc. It is really flying without a net. Also, can be difficult to transfer into a regular job when your only job experience is yourself
What took longest for me was the background check. There wasn't anything bad, but they were really backed up. I don't think that's taken in to consideration by older people. Or that you have to get a drug test too.
"but just start a business if you can't find something!" Oh, since you decided to be my guide, please, tell me what's the first thing I should do. Amuse me.
Running a business is a particular set of skills and personality traits that not everyone has. My generation was taught "anyone can become rich". No. No they cannot. That was a scam to get you to buy whatever they were selling so that THEY could get rich(er). Not anyone can be President/PM either.
I am a boomer and think that is the dumbest advice ever. Never have understood that supposedly sage advice to just start a business. Really? Doing what? Not to mention that even when I was young just going in a meeting someone did not get me a job.
Get at least a master's degree so you can be successful. Sure, a degree helps, but coming out of school with a massive amount of debt is not the greatest thing to do. My parents owned a home when they were 25 and 23. They didn't have to worry about having 40k in student loans.
The kicker? I work for my parents and they decide my salary. They know damn well I can barely afford rent, much less a house. Also, my degree has nothing to do with my job, but I had to have it.
Higher education was expensive for every generation. NOW at least there are scholarships, & financial aid not always in existence. The issue is capitalism. Money over education.
I was once asked if I didn´t finish university because I "only" had a Bc. By a student in the English class I taught, who was the same age as me.
I don't have a degree and kind of fell into the job i am doing now and have been for 14 years. Pays quite well and I have two houses. I am glad i didn't waste time with a degree. It doesn't guarantee anything. Experience counts, I changed job recently and got three interviews in no time at all, got rejected for one but could have had either of the others. Getting a start is the hardest part, but then experience is king.
"Don't take a job unless it gives 4 weeks vacation out of the year"
Because that's what someone can get fresh from college.
by law those of us living in Europe have to get 4 weeks holidays a year, so am thats every job ;)
While 4 weeks is the absolute minimum permitted by law in Germany for a full-time employee, most people get more. About 5-6 weeks is the norm. Of course that does not translate to part time jobs, but those simply are not a big thing here. Having multiple jobs is a rare exception, as long as you are not self-employed. Also, there is no limited number of sick days. If you are sick and have a doctor's note, then so be it. Limiting sick days or forcing an employee to use vacation days when sick is actually illegal. Six weeks (per illness) are paid as normal, if you need longer insurance takes over, usually with 70% of your salary, unless you are unable to work for more than 78 weeks. This is also the minimum as defined by law, so many employers do not even require a doctor's note if you are sick for three workdays or less.
Yeah, I don't know anyone who has more than one job, unless they're a freelancer.
Load More Replies...I learned often companies that do offer vacay or sick days get really upset if you actually use them. Switch n bait is the norm.
Do Americans ever realize that other parts of the world operate quite differently from theirs?
Some of us actually do, despite what most people *AHEM* believe to the contrary...
Load More Replies...in the US, you are not considered a motivated management-track employee unless you donate your vacation time to the company... yes, you can take your vacation, but you will be passed over when a promotion opening comes up.... or you will be the first to be laid off when things slow down... some companies expect their workers to work from home online on the weekends so they can spend "quality time" with their families... what quality time? kids screaming while you try to focus on your work ???... no fun for anyone
If your wife makes more than you. She will eventually become to independent and leave you. This from a 65 and 70 yr old coworkers who have stay at home wives. They also tell me that they don't do house work out of principle. Outside work and repairs only.
Honestly i don't even find it weird for 70 year olds to think like that! The sad thing is that i hear 30-40 year old men thinking like that and i really hope they won't find a wife ever
My dad is over 90 and figured out cooking just fine after my mother's dementia got pretty bad (she's in a residence now). He's not as neat as my mother, but he is neater than me.
Load More Replies...Why would anyone want to take advice from men who were raised with such sickening misogyny? Manipulate your partner your entire life to make it impossible for them to leave you so you don't have to do the work you've forced them to do? Oh wait, these guys would never consider their wives to be "partners" would they? So proud of Millennials being better than this!!
Women can be abusers too. Ever heard of a misandrist?? Yeah, that's a bad thing. Fricking psycho
Load More Replies...My wife is the principal earner in our family, and even now, in 2021, I get asked about it all the time. Especially when I took time off a few years ago to look after our young daughter. There is still some weird social stigma around this. And it's not just men who feel threatened by it- most of the hostility about my wife being the main earner has come from women, strangely.
When their wives die, they will be screwed. My mom is in her late 60s and joined a grief group after my stepdad died. She told me how many men in the group had no idea how to take care of themselves and were either relying on their adult or near adult children to care for them or looking for girlfriends/new wives. It was a whole different kind of sad and pathetic according to my mother (and me).
My Dad didn't care one bit if my Mom made more than he did at any given time. It's not a competition. It's contributing to a home and family (however you define "family"). If my Mom got a promotion and thus made more than him, he didn't crab about it. He was proud of her. But then he was a man who was waaaay ahead of his time. And I am very proud of him for that.
my grandmother made more money than my grandfather. they were together till his passing (over 60 years)
This one is the most annoying by now. The thought that a man must earn more than a woman is so damn old fashioned that I cannot even remember how to comment it. Not only it is unfair towards women, but it also puts pressure on men. If you are married, you probably put your money together and happily live well. What could make a wife go away though, is the situation where the husband refuses to work and lives on the couch drinking beer and watching TV while the wife works her soul out to make them both live a decent life.
My mom is the primary bread winner in my parent's relationship. She still makes dinner every night she is home.
First thing you should do is always buy a house.
Houses are not the surefire, idiot-proof investment machine they used to be in decades past.
The "joys" of home ownership-taxes, insurance, endless repairs, it's fun!
Even back then you were an idiot if you thought your house was an "investment". It's only a place. It costs money to maintain and repair, and when you sell it, you will NEVER get out what you put in.
The first thing you should always do is follow the older generation's advice by going to college, even if you don't know what you want to do, get in massive debt until you die, pound the pavement, go in person to hand someone a piece of paper, have a family before or even if you'll never be able to afford it, be sure to find a place with a good pension plan, and for God's sake, whatever you do, always buy the house first so as to be sure to live on a razor's edge of bankruptcy with no emergency cushion at all. "Ya. I'll get right on that."
I found I more-or-less hate all that goes into home ownership.
I understand your point but you are minus a landlord, so there is one less problem. Some of them are great, of course, but I have had doozies that make you want to scream.
Load More Replies...Those who call things 'fool-proof' underestimate the pure ingenuity of fools.
They were NEVER an investment machine. It was simply that if you wanted a house in which to raise your kids, you're better of buying a house than renting because you are....well buying instead of renting. It was never a good investment. If you want a good return on your money, actually invest it.
In the Netherlands the prices for houses increase dramatically every year to the point they virtually became unaffordable for starters and lower payed jobs. It is crazy, but those that bought a house some years ago may get the investment back easily. The problem however is, when moving, you will be faced with a high price for a house/apartment as well.
Go to college and get a degree. Employers will be throwing good paying jobs at you. Total bulls***. Baby Boomers told us this c*** and they're refusing to hire us. F*** that.
HE in the UK is like a sausage factory - churning out graduates regardless of their ability to pass the course - but giving them unlimited bites at the cherry to make sure they do and devaluing the degree in the process.
i hapened to be sucg student - i simply did not see the point of "imaginative projects" for homework. I do, however, work in this field ever since graduation - IT. SO no, not all useless students stay useless.
Load More Replies...We got told that before I got my degree and it was rubbish in the 1990s as well. By that point employers were hiring for experience and we had to start with entry level roles which we were told we would not have to do if we got a good degree Nothing wrong with starting at the bottom (and learning the ropes), but misleading people about the value of a degree has been going on for years and is nothing to do with baby boomers - they were told the same thing.
First, jobs only needed high school. Then everyone started graduating high school, so jobs need a bachelors. Then everyone started getting a college degree, so jobs start requiring a masters, then a PhD.
"Have you tried going in in person and giving them your CV?". This was when I was looking for graduate schemes with multi step application processes, usually CV upload > online tests > phone interview > interview/assessment day > sometimes second interview. Me walking into the building with a piece of physical paper would not have helped at all but my parents thought it was my fault that I didn't have a job yet because I didn't do that.
This might have been useful in the past but nowadays is almost impossible to give your cv in person!! It will still end up in some secretary's office and you will never get to the person responsible without an appointment
Get to them without an appointment? If they have appointments, why are you not making one? A typical attitude of entitlement.
Load More Replies...Some people don't realise that with everything being online, nothing gets lost. At the start of my HR career (pre-internet), managers would lose application forms, spill coffee on them, have their kids make paper aeroplanes out of them and so on. When it is all online, they can't do that and we have an easy way to find out where someone is up to in the recruitment process and can chase managers who are being too slow to respond.
I think I'm going to explode if I hear one more story about such BS "advice". 😠
This must be a generational thing. Plenty of boomers have that "I got hired on the spot" stories but .... they don't seem to be able to relate to the current hiring process.
In Spain they do not accept CV in paper. All has to be done through online applications. So you will never get the opportunity to hand in anything. A loose-loose option.
Gen Xer here. My mom said the same thing to me. It didn't work 30 years ago and probably won't EVER again. Persistence at that level is an invitation to be escorted out by security.
The online applications and other online things in the process actually prove your computer skills which might be needed to do actual jobs, so I think it is really OK. If you cannot use the Internet, try to improve your skills and then apply for the job.
Grab boomers by the shoulders, look at them straight in the eyes, and yell : "THE WORLD HAS CHANGES SINCE YOU HAVE BECOME A USELESS DUSTY RAISIN YOU ENTITLED PRETENTIOUS MORRON!!!!!!"
I hardly fit the requirments to be a millennials, but i had huge interest in game devopment but was discouraged saying computers wont get you a job. Boy oh boy do i like to remind them of that as i now make soundtracks part time and play test games on the side and the entire world is one big computer now.
The people who say "computers wont get you a job." must not realize that the world is becoming digitalized.
When I was in high school looking for a job my grandmother told me to just go to places and fill out applications; she told me it was useless using the Internet to look for a job. This was in 2008 and every place I checked for a job had an Internet-based application.
EDIT: No one seems to quite understand. You can argue going into a store or calling back is useful to being known or improving your chances at getting a job at some companies. That's great. According to my grandmother, it was pointless to use the Internet as a means of finding available jobs. If I were to follow her advice I would go into countless places and ask if they were hiring there.
Also, a lot of places [a] have online-only application processes and [b] make it impossible (or nearly so) to "call back...to being known". HR doesn't want to talk with you unless they start the conversation.
that and most places now are franchise establishments whose Human Resources department is not even in the same time zone.
Load More Replies...A Lot of the places you'd walk in and ask either aren't hiring or you have to go through a long process for hiring. It would probably end up in a trash can somewhere
I went through that whole shebang 7 years ago with a relative who was helping me out. Nearly impossible to get them to understand the way things work now. Got my last four jobs from people I knew, and ads placed in online pubs or (don't freak out) newspaper want ads. Seriously those jobs lasted six years average before companies went broke, downsized, or reorganized. AHHHH retail.
I found this out when I was job searching for the first time in a decade, about 3 years ago.
"You should have kids before it's too late." I'm 26, excuse you?
Honestly, I‘d advise everyone to plan ahead IF they want to have kids at some point. You don’t want kids, that’s fine. You don’t want kids until later, that’s equally fine, but not everybody will be able to produce healthy eggs/sperm later in life. Talk to your doctor and see if cryopreservation is an option for you for example. So many couples in their thirties or fourties want to have children and can‘t.
It's called older child adoption and I wish I had my stuff together enough to do it.
Load More Replies...Here’s what I think about this thread. It’s BS!! The more people are into trashing other people from other generations instead of realizing you can get bad advice from your best friend who’s the same age you are. I have heard some pretty inane comments come from younger generations. We all have our moments just because you’ve heard bad advice from one Boomer doesn’t mean the entire f**king generation has bad advice. I mean we’re all trying to do our best…right??
Dang! I KNEW I forgot something! I'm 58. No kids and I LOVE my life. Unlike other people my age who can't retire until they're 106 because they're putting kids through school.
I got this lecture from my gynecologist when I was 24. (I got a new one shortly after) but in a side note, when I was pregnant with twins at 32 I was considered "advanced maternal age" and more of a high risk patient.
So when is then the right time? When you are 16? So that you can have 10 children by the time you are 26?
You have a job, there's no reason you shouldn't have a house! However the average house here is 400k, and you must have 20% cash to put down. Super easy in an entry position right?
This is because loads of people don't want new houses built by them (or there isn't room), and so many people are buying houses to do up and sell for profit "like on TV", or buying them to rent out for income.
The only hope of this coming back around is if companies seriously start making jobs 99% virtual, so that you can work from anywhere. IT income in small towns would ne good for both economies. Although culturally, everyone would probably hate it.
Times have changed drastically and some people just don’t recognize that. Boomers came of age after WWII in pretty good conditions with occasional downturns where wages still kept up with cost of living better. Those days are gone.
Not to mention, you have to be ready to move where the jobs are. Can't really pick up and take off if you have to sell the house first.
I wish a house where i lived cost 400K. They are about 1.5 million here (Vancouver area)
And don't forget - once you have that house in your name, your credit score just took a massive hit. You best have everything else in order for at least the first year or so because you won't qualify for anything else new on credit.
My government teacher just told me it was hard for him to sympathize with people who have to work at McDonald's (we were talking about raising the minimum wage) when he was able to put himself through college while working and studying full time. He said it was still possible for anyone that wanted to put in the work. I'd just got out of economics, where my teacher had told us it wasn't possible, and made us calculate the cost of our preferred college or trade school and write up our financial aid options. Weird getting almost word for word contradiction that soon from two teachers. I was born in '98 I'm not sure if I'm a millennial though.
You can't "put yourself through college" anymore. Tuition costs have skyrocketed while wages have stagnated.
I went to college full-time, shared an apartment with a friend, and bought a brand new car, all on a part-time job. That was 1966. You can't do that anymore.
I worked two jobs in college, one of which was FOR the college to help reduce my tuition. Went to a public college, applied for scholarships (that I never got, but that's life). Did everything I could. I graduated almost a decade ago and still have almost all of my student loans. I think I owe more NOW with the interest pileup. It's a rigged freaking game and the people blaming us for not winning are the people who set up the rulebook.
Unfortunately u.s. does not create much in the way of jobs that pay well enough to live on. It is absolutely not possible to work your way through college with the rising prices of education and absolutely stagnant wages.
"Trust the banks" Republicans are trying to deregulate banks to let them use customer funds to speculate on the stock market....Which was a major cause of the great depression.
the great depression was caused by John D Rockefeller using the Fed to play the "pump & dump" scam... his policies inflated prices in the stock market (pump)... at the all time high, he secretly sold off his holdings (dump)... Then he increased interest rates. The prices crashed to lows 90% less that the all-time highs. He promptly bought back his holdings (buy back) at rock-bottom prices. Then the prices rose by 1933 to about what they were in 1929 before all this began. He doubled his fortune in three years doing this. He ruined the lives of millions & set the stage for the rise of the fascists. This led to WW2, 20 to 50 million dead, and the world as we know it today. Burn in hell, John. You deserve it. Does all that money do you any good now?
WW2 was caused by the Treaty of Versailles putting Germany in such economic strain, that the German people thought that following Hitler was a good idea. Hitler's economic plan wasn't really a bad one. It was all his other plans that were horrific. World War 1 caused World War 2.
Load More Replies..."Buy a house so you can refinance it and make some money." From my aunt with a serious shopping addiction who's refinanced her house 3 times and is in serious debt.
Don't do this. My parents took out a $40G mortgage in 1974. My mother refinanced multiple times to support her shopping addiction. Now that they're both dead, the mortgage is nearly $200G and the house is in such disrepair that I'm having trouble selling it...in an aggressive seller's market. Also, my family had to spend 18 months (in between working and raising kids) to clean out all the garbage, paying for multiple 30-yard dumpsters. While there was a lot of usable stuff, there was also a lot of eBay and dollar store crap that was completely useless.
This aunt's logic reminds me of a coworker of mine in the 80's. She was struggling financially even though her husband worked, he spent a lot baseball cards ...sigh. So she gets this call from her kid one day all excited " we have money, the checks you ordered from the bank just arrived..." 🤢Need I say more?
You know what's sad? This actually works for some people. At least, it works in their head.
"Join the army, so your family can have a future."
Well done. Well f*****g done. The family left. And now, seventeen years later, the only way I can get a job is if I do NOT tell people I was in the military.
YMMV: My military experience/service opened all sorts of doors to me.
All the doors had IEDs behind them. I am now terrified of fireworks and lunchboxes.
Load More Replies...Join the military and get a degree while serving. But the thing is, while you're busy getting that wonderful degree, your country may go to war, send you to it and you get killed. But hey, at least I was halfway to getting my degree. Or, I make it through and have PTSD or CTI and its severe enough that it ain't happening. And then, there are military families who have to use food stamps. Otherwise they can't purchase enough food, or theres the good old food bank. And then maybe you're family will have a "future" with the death benefits. Not saying the military isn't an option. My Dad served. But, Be careful before you make that kind of "deal".
I have worked with men who left the marine corps ten years before that and who still haven't gotten over it.... I wish you ex-marines would figure out that the military is not the real world... they hired you and trained you to be macho tough-guy hired hit men. This is not the real world unless you work for the mafia.
My husband did 22 years in the Marine Corps and retired at the age of 39. It sucks that this is the stereotype. His MOS (job) was public affairs, like, if something happens, say a aircraft crashes, the military person you see on TV is prepped by him and his staff on what to say. Also the press release is created by his team. He had the hardest time getting a job after he got out because of this stereotype. FINALLY a year and a half after he retired, someone in a PR firm gave him a shot and he is now the CFO of the firm. It really depends on the job you have in the military, as there are some jobs that translate well in the non-military world.
Load More Replies...I feel like there's got to be more to the story here. Usually military veterans get preferential treatment... unless they were dishonorablly discharged. And if that's the case, that's on you.
No, there really isn't. Ex-military are subject to more unfair assumptions and discrimination than most groups of people. They are often unfairly viewed as having PTSD or other debilitating conditions and are seen as violent, irrational, and prone to violence as a result of their military training. People will often view them as baby killers, rapists, and murderers and it can be very difficult for people to overcome those prejudices. I will guarantee you that the mandatory anti-discrimination training most corporations give each year includes military as a class of people you cannot discriminate against just because of their service. It is messed up, but I have seen it happen too many times.
Load More Replies..."drop out of local community college and RUN, don't walk to most expensive state school in the country. A degree from a community college isn't worth anything." Naturally this exchange occured while I was working so I hid my "f***-off-and-die" face behind a polite smile and said I would consider it.
the local jr. college can be a real bargain for your education, especially if you stay at home with parents while attending.. the problem comes when they are taking applications for grad school programs... the top schools will accept people from 4-year schools first, preferably their own undergrad college... if the class maximum is full, they pass over people with any class hours from a jr. college on their transcript.
Why didn't you say "f**k off and die" ? It was a totally legitimate response.
I have a degree from a community college. Its accredited and everything. Also, the degree might have cost me all of about $2000.
there are a lot of programs where you start at the local community college and the transfer to the big state school for the last 2 years. Employers may ask to see your degree but I don't know many who ask to see your transcript (outside of government funded work)
I have student debt. It's my only debt. $24,000 in loans. No credit cards, no car payment, no outstanding bills. I pay about $800 a month in loans, and any extra money I have at the end of the month. My parents constantly tell me I'm bad with handling money, and have tried to get me to file for bankruptcy several times because "it's so much easier".
That is not a universal truth, even in the US. That's a recent change.
Load More Replies...Unless your parents know a damned thing about bankruptcy maybe they should shut the hell up.
I hope this person knows that declaring bankruptcy will not wipe out student loans since their parents don’t.
Except its not anymore. Student loan debt is still yours to carry & medical debt is getting harder to take off.
Marry first for money, then you can marry for love in your second marriage. 😐 They've all been divorced at least once.
When my mother was very drunk (again) she admitted that she married my father because he could provide for her. He died providing about 20 years ago and his last words were about concerns for her. So devastating. Always marry out of love!!!
My mother told me that it was just as easy to love a rich man as a poor man. I married a man I love & we've been married almost 36 yrs. Money is not enough reason for me to marry someone I didn't like, let alone love.
They tell you to live while you're young because these are your best years. And then they tell you to start saving up for your 401k as early as possible. What do they think "live while you're young" means? Something compatible with saving?
I'm a Boomer. Going to retire and it's going to be tight. My 84 yo aunt. "Didn't you have a pension?". No. Nurses didn't have pensions to contribute to. Didnt you save up your money? Not exactly. Had to afford to have a roof over my head, buy a car, and not a fancy one. Eat, have an emergency savings, furniture in my home and yes, maybe some to enjoy life a little. And, no. I didnt have a husband to sell his business for a pretty penny, buy a nice house for cash that massively appreciated over the years, sell it, making a $h!+ load of extra money so i pay cash for my condo, and buy a car. But.... I could always use a rich relative to put me in the will.
I am a boomer too. Truth is most boomers had that same experience and retirement may be forced on many because they can’t get jobs anymore and saved what they could but not enough anymore with costs so high. Not everyone had that big ass high paying job.
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Temp agencies will get you sustainable work. Why are you looking online for jobs when there are temp agencies?
You can't really make a career out of working for a temp agency, but it can get your foot in the door someplace where you can have a career. That's how I got my current job.
It's also a good way to build up some valuable "experience" which many employers value above qualifications.
Load More Replies...it does turn into full time positions sometimes. either way it pays the bills.
I mean, a temp agency is how my husband became successful, shrug
same here....temp for 9 months at one company. 17 years and 2 continents later my "temp" position is now global director of a fortune 500....
Load More Replies...i've been at my job for nearly 18 years and i started as receptionist from a temp agency. the job i currently have would require a college degree for anyone else, but i was lucky enough to have my hard work and intelligence noticed and appreciated over a piece of paper. i also don't have to pay anything for my health insurance and i get 2 weeks vacation and 2 weeks AWP every year. and i work from home 3 days a week now. this job is the best, but i know i lucked into it.
Temp work is something you do when you have absolutely no other choice...and I mean no other choice! Nowadays most companies want to us more temps, not less, and being offered a full-time position is becoming less common.
Situation depending: if you're temping for a wk or 2, probably wont amount to much. If you're lucky enough to temp for like 6 months (think long maternity leave or family leave) & maybe they'll like you &/or think of you for a reg position...
I actually looked into this. Temp agencies more or less hire for specific jobs that not everyone is equipped for.
Learn cursive because you will need it when you become an adult!
sorry, can't argue with this one. If I write, it's in cursive. It's just faster, for me.
That may be for devoted cursive-writers, but for an experienced printer, it makes no difference.
Load More Replies...What are these people going to do when the power goes down.... " I'm sorry, I don't know how to write manually." 🤢 When the power has gone down in my neighborhood, I got to see all my neighbors gardening and washing their cars.... since I was out there now too.🤣
I'm teaching my kid cursive. It's not hard and it doesn't take very long, especially in the grand scheme of things.
"Go to graduate school. Then it'll be easy to get a great job."
Having a higher degree can get you overlooked as the potential employer assumes you'll want a bigger salary than they offer or that you'll jump ship as soon as a new opportunity comes. Reality is almost all employees will jump ship for a better opportunity. It's the only way to get promotions and raises now.
"Major in something you love hunny"
Would you have preferred , major in something you hate hunny ?
Research the listings for jobs you are interested in beforehand and see what degree they require hunny.
Load More Replies...Yes. I love astrophysics. So I think I'll major in that. I'll work my way through college and then pound my little feet all the way to some God knows where place you practically have to be a Nobel Prize winner to get a job. Great idea Mom! No. I'd rather research my options in other things I maybe love less, but in the long run is a much smarter path.
Miss Frankfurter: well between astrophysics and being in the medical field ( yeah, I saw your other post) you could combine the two interests and... damn... I don't have any ideas.🤣
Load More Replies...fine if you love STEM... not if you love something that leads to an unmarketable liberal arts degree...
I would rather do what I love (Music Ed) than go into something I have no interest in or passion for
Load More Replies...I studied “Applied Alcoholics with Practical Narcotics” and oddly enough I’m still unemployed…
This one might be the worst one. Best way to waste your time, money and youth to eventually get a useless degree like... Gender studies, liberal arts, or some other kind of bullshit.
Us folk with humanities degrees have those "low paying jobs" that help you STEM folk; with all your wild successes, pick up the pieces when you fall down.
Load More Replies..."Just take out another loan"
My ultra-Conservative father once posted an article on my Facebook Timeline written by a trans man about why he chose to vote Republican, and it was basically "GAYS NEED TO JUST FIT IN WITH SOCIETY AND STOP TRYING TO GET ALL OF THESE RIGHTS."
hard to fit in when the Church of Hating Everyone isn't surrounded by spite houses
Load More Replies...I fail to see how this post is relevant in this thread. This isn't an advice a boomer gave to a millennial
I am a Millennial. I've been in the work force for 2 recessions and have felt screwed over, but the level of anger in this post sounds like a 16 year old screaming at their parents. People will always give s**t advise regardless of age. Calm down .
Sometimes the wisest lessons can be learned by listening to music lyrics. And also, it can be very surprising who writes them. Every generation does criticize the music and musicians from the "younger" generation for various reasons. It's just noise. Look how they dress, do their hair. What there music videos are like. Theyre a bad influence etc. Well my fellow Boomers. I remind you of Woodstock and what was said then. Janis Joplin. Jimmy Hendrix. And then there is Bob Dylan. Antiwar trouble maker who makes crap music. The title of one song, " The Times They Are a Changin'". May i remind you that the song was our message to the Establishment telling them just that. Well, now we're that older generation. May i suggest you go back and listen to that song again. Because, guess what? The times, they are a changing. And for those of you who are our future, take note. They always will be.
I’m not even a boomer, but I’m sick of all the boomer hate. I’ve heard some of this advice before. Funny thing is that the world just keeps turning and we’ve all heard it before. Every generation thinks they’ve got it so tough and that prior generations had it easy. Blah, blah, blah
I'm a boomer ca. 1960. I was told a lot of those things too. That means they originated before boomers.
The best thing I ever did was stopped listening to my parents "advice." Of course I never asked them, they just always invited themselves and their opinions, so I stopped telling them. I could see at 21 how irrelevant it was, at 26 i was regretting still updating them.
I am a Millennial. I've been in the work force for 2 recessions and have felt screwed over, but the level of anger in this post sounds like a 16 year old screaming at their parents. People will always give s**t advise regardless of age. Calm down .
Sometimes the wisest lessons can be learned by listening to music lyrics. And also, it can be very surprising who writes them. Every generation does criticize the music and musicians from the "younger" generation for various reasons. It's just noise. Look how they dress, do their hair. What there music videos are like. Theyre a bad influence etc. Well my fellow Boomers. I remind you of Woodstock and what was said then. Janis Joplin. Jimmy Hendrix. And then there is Bob Dylan. Antiwar trouble maker who makes crap music. The title of one song, " The Times They Are a Changin'". May i remind you that the song was our message to the Establishment telling them just that. Well, now we're that older generation. May i suggest you go back and listen to that song again. Because, guess what? The times, they are a changing. And for those of you who are our future, take note. They always will be.
I’m not even a boomer, but I’m sick of all the boomer hate. I’ve heard some of this advice before. Funny thing is that the world just keeps turning and we’ve all heard it before. Every generation thinks they’ve got it so tough and that prior generations had it easy. Blah, blah, blah
I'm a boomer ca. 1960. I was told a lot of those things too. That means they originated before boomers.
The best thing I ever did was stopped listening to my parents "advice." Of course I never asked them, they just always invited themselves and their opinions, so I stopped telling them. I could see at 21 how irrelevant it was, at 26 i was regretting still updating them.
