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Contrary to what dating apps and social media might lead you to believe, chivalry is not dead. My partner always opens doors for me, carries the heavier bag of groceries and makes sure that I have a blanket as soon as I express how cold our apartment is. But as nice as those behaviors are, we both know that it’s not necessary for men to treat women differently. In fact, it can often become toxic.

Women on Reddit have recently been discussing “white knight” behaviors from men that they’re sick and tired of, so we’ve gathered some of their thoughts down below. It’s wonderful to open up doors and help women out when they’re transporting heavy items, but those actions are pointless if you become condescending in the name of politeness. Enjoy reading through this list, and be sure to upvote the habits you can’t stand either!

#1

30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are I’m a widow. Men have thrown themselves at me like they were going to be the one to f**k the loneliness away. Married. Dating. Single. Old. Young. Every walk of life. My boss too. When they asked, “Do you miss sex?” I always wanted to answer, “Nope. I saved my husband’s penis. It sits on my nightstand in a glass box with a label on it that reads, ‘Break glass in case of emergency.’”

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Anne
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please do answer that.

Dirk Daring
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally gross question to ask. Reminds me of when my uncle was battling terminal cancer. Some dude walks up to me, points to my aunt and says something like, "She's a good woman, as soon as she becomes single, I'm going to swoop in and get her." I don't think he knew I was related, but sir, please stop telling me that you can't wait for my uncle to die so you can schtup my aunt. Go far away.

StrangeOne
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The odd times I get asked that in a weird way I just look at them like I have no idea what they're talking about. Really, I don't know until moments later. But it shuts them up eventually.

Oskar vanZandt
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's disgusting behaviour... Those menshould all be deeply ashamed (but we all know they weren't because someone with a conscience and respect for others would never behave like that).

Sven Horlemann
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry for your loss. And sorry that... that made me laugh out loud.

Silre (she/her)
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so glad that I haven't had this experience as a widow.

Nicola Thrope
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I could swear I heard this exact thing in a comedy routine at some point. Chris Rock, I think?

Ephemera Image
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's sadly true. I got more offers from married men than I ever did from single, from sixteen years upwards. Widowed, same.

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    #2

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are When people try to put words in my mouth like "what I think she meant was". No, no, no, I f*****g said what I said, all questions can be directed to me.

    CatrionaShadowleaf , Tima Miroshnichenko / pexels Report

    Tyke
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I (F) have both men and women do this to me. My boss (F) used to cut me off mid sentence to argue with what she thought I was trying to say.

    Stephen Smith
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a man and don't like it done to me, by other men, and WOMEN so stop thinking this a one way thing.

    J J
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or maybe someone is trying to state how what you said came across to them.

    SirWriteALot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So speak gooder so that theirs no questions.

    Stephen Smith
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a man and also hate this when done to me, by other men and WOMEN, so stop thinking it's just a one way thing.

    Hester
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the image currently at #3 is the perfect response - a woman with her hand up in a Stop gesture - "Please stop, I said what I said, if you didn't understand what I said then feel free to ask for clarification, but don't assume that everyone else is as confused as you."

    ConstantlyJon
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is like, so close to active listening. Big difference between "Did you say this?" and "I think she meant this"

    Sven Horlemann
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, but... "do you really mean that"??

    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can speak for myself, thank you. If you want to help, tell people to shut up and listen to me.

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    #3

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Offering to help you and not backing off regardless of what you say. My cousin is very beautiful and often has guys offering help left and right in an effort to get in her good graces - except they keep offering when she says no. And keep offering. And keep pushing. It's basically a thinly veiled "let me get close to you", and they won't take no for an answer. It's extremely disrespectful

    peachandpeony , SHVETS production / pexels Report

    Mia Hamsa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The worst is when you keep saying no, and then they get offended and some even verbally offensive.

    Diana Schlafer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker. Literally chapter one.

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm curious. A while back my adult son and I were at one of the big box home improvement stores. When we got to my truck with our purchases there were two young ladies a few spaces down who were obviously struggling with tying their stuff so they wouldn't lose it. We debated offering to help, since they very obviously needed it, but didn't want to offend them, or make them feel threatened or uncomfortable, so we didn't. Should have we have offered? (If they had said "No thank you" we would absolutely have accepted that and gone on about our business.)

    Diana Schlafer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't see any harm in offering to help someone, ever - as long as you're willing to take NO as an answer without getting offended or pushy.

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    1 year ago

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    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't see any issues with opening doors for you, and why does that bother you? I will agree that he should accept "No thank you" after offering to carry things for you. The thing about holding your hand while going down stairs is just bizarre, unless one or both of you have mobility or stability issues.

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    #4

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Any time a man is speaking for or “defending” a woman and he gets extremely possessive. And you can tell that he’s more offended because she’s HIS, and it’s therefore disrespectful to HIM, than he is concerned about her feelings. “That’s MY f*****g WIFE,” “don’t talk about MY wife that way,” “keep my wife’s name out your f*****g mouth!” (This is basically the quintessential example of this behavior in pop culture tbh). I think a lot of women are actually attracted to this on the surface, but it bugs me deeply now that I’ve realized how it really serves the man. In contrast, I had a really s****y conversation with my dad recently where it got heated and he was questioning my professional decisions. My dad’s a contrarian and loves to lecture, so if I say “I’m doing this,” his first reaction is “no no, that’s wrong” — even if he would say it’s right under other circumstances. Drives me batty. My husband sat back and let me stand my ground until I was getting basically bulldozed. He finally “stepped in,” because my dad tends to respond better to men (eye roll)…. but what he said was “Hey. She’s doing an amazing job, and her performance isn’t up for debate. You may not agree, but it isn’t your career or your life. We’re both extremely happy with how she handled the situation.” It just… felt different. I didn’t need him to go all “That’s MY wife, back off” macho macho mode. I felt like a teammate, not a possession.

    lizard_ladder , Timur Weber / pexels Report

    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad can be awesome, but he can also be quite mean. I was having trouble with a man I liked recently in that I felt he was being disrespectful and somewhat emotionally abusive, and Dad was like "no, you stop speaking to him. He does not get to treat MY daughter that way." I said "what, that privilege is just for you?" Dad did not like that.

    ConstantlyJon
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    GO HUSBAND! That's the way to be right there.

    Johnnynatfan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now men can’t stand up for their wife without it being “toxic” give me a break

    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your offence is in the fact that the person is harming someone that belongs to YOU, it's toxic. It's the same concept as rape being a property crime against the father or husband. If you're offence is that someone is being harmed, that's not toxic.

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    Hester
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I may be a little bit in love with OPs husband. What a wonderful response.

    Strings
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always let my gf fight her own battles (which she is VERY capable of doing): I just watch her back. However, of the disagreement turns physical, they're getting beat down twice: once by her, once by me (for hurting her hands)

    iseefractals
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    JFC....it's not about "possession" it's about pointing out the significance of the relationship...ya know, to remind an a*****e that when they're insulting, disrespecting, or threatening someone they love, on the basis that the feel safe and comfortable doing so without fear of meaningful reprisal....that they've misjudged that safety and security. The majority of men aren't angry because they feel they're being disrespected through the women in their life....they're angry because the women in their life are being disrespected. Guess that doesn't really fit the popular narrative though, which is just lovely.

    Aqsa Azam
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love the last line. So apt

    Jaya
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The same with 'my husband', 'my mom', and so on.

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the difference is he was talking to your dad and not some random dude on the street. by all counts your dad should be respectful enough to not get too heated, he should be predictable enough... a random person on the street could be crazy and go in to attack mode. use a better example.

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    #5

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Having the mentality of "Men, its our job to protect women." Why? Who are you "protecting" us from... oh.. other men? Maybe place your focus on calling out those men when you see toxic/dangerous behaviors and normalize holding your own kind accountable. Stop making it about "protecting women."

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    BTDubs
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    97% of women have been sexually harassed or assaulted in their lifetime. Most women know someone who has been sexually abused, by that token, do most men know a man who's abusive toward women?

    Mike D
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Knew men like that. Past tense. Always past tense.

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    Kesam
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will always try to protect the non-a******s from the a******s, no matter the sex.

    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've found that the guys who are the loudest about how it's their job to protect women and children are the ones that women and children need protection from.

    similarly
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand the point, but ... How do you know those men are not calling out toxic/dangerous behaviors? Calling out bad behavior doesn't always mean that behavior disappears.

    Weasel Wise
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is this not higher on the list?!?! Women don't need protection from anything if the society around them weren't so passive towards men who behave like dirtbags.

    V H
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly, this is naive. My brother can't fix the fact that other men are creeps. Yes, he can eaise his son better but that's a fix for the future. Right now I'm glad he accompanies me when I have to walk at night or through places that are unsafe

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    ZuriLovesYou
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I should show this to my brother.

    Strings
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ummm... wouldn't calling out creeps (done it) and stopping guys from pulling creepy stuff (done that too) all count as "protecting women"?

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    #6

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Taking tools away from me while I'm using them because they are "thinking of my safety". Like, no, it's not safe to try and take my ax out of my hands mid-swing.

    notanotherkrazychik , Andrea Piacquadio / pexels Report

    Kesam
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a guy and had that done to me by women when I was cooking in the kitchen. Yes, I know how to make food, no need for you to take over! 😄

    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone is in my kitchen wrecking my food, I will pull the spatulas out of their hands. But in someone else's kitchen, it's their business.

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    Annie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was a technician, male co-workers "borrowed" my tool bag (with my name clearly on the outside) full of tools that I bought (also had my name on them). Of course they said I was being a b***h, but I pointed out that they didn't have any tools because they'd lost or broken them.

    Nicola Thrope
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really wish people with this mentality would actually get left alone to learn the hard way. It's been my policy consistently, to let people (not JUST men, but let's be honest...) that think they know better, f**k around and find out. It's how my daddy raised me, and sure the outcome can be bloody, some may even call it callous or inhuman to step back when someone decides they know better than you. If experience is how someone *insists* on learning the lesson however, I will gladly stand aside and grab popcorn.

    veryvenasaur
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh my god I hate when people do this for that matter anyone who touches the wheel while I'm driving to honk the horn because, "That guy was an a-hole and needed to be honked at." Is the epitome of this while I was learning I was completely fine with someone nudging the steering wheel to help me stay in my lane since that's important but I passes my drivers test over a year ago so yeah hands of the wheel.

    RabidChild
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This, almost more than anything else, makes me want to throw hands. I've had both men and women grab a tool of some sort out of my hands at jobs, not necessarily for safety but because they think I'm not doing something correctly or they can do it better. Instant outrage on my part.

    Kevin Snyder
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In all fairness, the axe head was loose and you were about to clock your sister with it.

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    1 year ago

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    #7

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are When a guy is explaining something, and I say “I know.” Could be directions, telling me about a show, a fact, current event, whatever. But if I said that I know already, them saying “Ok, but…” and continuing as if I had said nothing.

    Cultural_Note_6722 , Polina Zimmerman / pexels Report

    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A patriarchal society teaches men that they are the arbiters of reality, that they know more than anyone else and have the inherent right to be believed and obeyed. It's deeply ingrained, and even some men who want to be egalitarian still have that unconscious bias.

    Charles McChristy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In all fairness, a lot of older men do the same thing to younger men. They act like we are idiots who would be lost without them. I'm like, "Sorry, but google maps gives better directions than your, 'Make a left at the 3rd oak tree that has only light Spanish moss on it...'

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is annoying when anyone does this. My mom does this all the time. It really is a power/control tactic.

    RabidChild
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every time. Or they give you the "just step aside little lady, and let the man handle this" and totally screw up what you're working on because they don't bother to understand the goal.

    Belladonna.dreams
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate this. I tune them out and continue doing what I was doing.

    Tyke
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother does this, and if I push back I then get "don't talk to me in that tone" (there is no tone) but that in itself will set me off every time. My Mum and I refer to him "monologuing"

    Aminah Khan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes this ⬆️ and also having men lecture me about my research when they know sod-all about it. Man, I have degrees and academic publications in the subject you know nothing about!

    similarly
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, I work with someone who, when people are trying to give information or instructions, waves them away with "I know!" So we stop. Then, almost invariably, it turns out they DON'T know.

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    #8

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Men I don't know calling me "honey," "sweetheart," or any variation of that. Happens less now that I'm older, thank god.

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    Fat Harry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't move to Somerset. We call everyone darlin' or love.

    E.V.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Older men tend to do this to young women especially if they have daughters themselves. They seem to act very fatherly towards young women. Unless they say it in a lascivious way, they're just used to calling young girls sweetheart since I guarantee that's what they call their daughters or granddaughters. Force of habit.

    EmAdoresHerKats🇮🇪🇵🇸🇩🇿
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my country its common but its not said or meant in a creepy way. Other variations are chicken, love and hen. I love it and i hope it doesnt go away because its just a lovely way we communicate.

    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Both men and women sometimes do this when they've forgotten your actual name and are embarrassed to ask

    Ace
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just as common as a male in some parts of the world. I found it especially cringey when older female waiting staff would call me Honey in parts of the US (when I was younger, I mean).

    Weasel Wise
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Older men do this shìt and it makes me want to gag every single time. Nasty old men. Women don't want any bit of "sweet" name calling from you guys.

    SirWriteALot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right back at you. Don't call me sweety or honey or dear. (I actually hear more women calling men a term of endearment than the other way around. but it could be a language thing)

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    #9

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Men who do the bare minimum and act like they should be praised for it like it’s so annoying. like congrats for respecting my boundaries i guess??

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    Anyone-for-tea?
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, like “I emptied the dishwasher for you, love” No you didn’t, they’re shared responsibilities and things you need for the household to run smoothly.

    Keri B
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whenever he completes a household chore and is looking for praise, I flatly say "Gold Star." Could be a compliment, could be sarcastic. He can figure that out without me.

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    Damned_Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to have to beg my ex to help around the house. If I was lucky, he would vacuum the living room or mop the bathroom floor. He would then tell his friends that he couldn't get anything done that day because he had to clean the house.

    WindySwede
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But always be supportive and say things like "good work!" when the other does something no one likes doing! (at least in an equal relation).

    Fat Harry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does this look to anyone else like the woman has some mad chin hair?

    Steph Adams
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We had to do a little cementing in our basement a coupla years ago. The tub had these baby-step instructions on how to cement, the last being 'take a bow for your amazing accomplishment'. Really idiotic how babyish men's instructions are, and that they then receive and bestow themselves such praise for completing/undertaking relatively simple tasks, when women get no instructions for so many tasks on monumental things, must learn as they go, and not only get zero praise but are actually given complete indifference by men for accomplishing them.

    KatSaidWhat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ex-landlord/live in housemate - "I cleaned the kitchen, are you proud?" - m**o, you OWN the house.

    Dennis Kvistgaard
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You just mentioned every single human on the planet...

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    #10

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are When they try to mansplain me how to do my job.

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    Weasel Wise
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dude...dude...this! No joke, I had a coworker try to mansplain to me about how to put steak knives away just two weeks ago. No fùcking joke, how to put knives into a container. I've been doing this job almost as long as this dude has been alive. I gave him a crooked look as he started to "explain" and, gladly, caught on quick by saying, "Yeah. Okay. I'm going to stop speaking now." Blows my frigging mind that he thought, for even a split second, that I could use his absolutely idiotic waste of breath.

    Wendy Miller
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I absolutely hate this. I process listing agreements at work. Been doing it for 14 years. After processing (which includes providing a listing number, creating a folder, adding it to our database, etc.) I let the listing agent know that all of these things are done. I literally had one of our guys send me a new listing and tell me what to do with it (as mentioned above). Um excuse me, I've been doing this longer than you've been at our company. But he's also someone who doesn't value you if you are in a position perceived as "less than". Those types are the worst.

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    Chrissy Dee
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once had a man try to correct me when I told him my new job title. My title contains a common acronym which is slightly similar to a different acronym in our field. The exchange was written, so there was no possible mishearing involved. His immediate reaction was "Lol, you mean XYZ" And I simply replied "No, it's ZYX. I know my own job title."

    Mia Hamsa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember once a lawyer stood over me and was pointing out every part of "sign here" when the paper clearly said "SIGN HERE". I was fuming and asked him to give me some space.

    RabidChild
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh yeah. No matter what project you're working on, even though you are not seeking advice, a man has to tell you how you'll "want" to do a thing, i.e., "Now, when you're gonna (do project) you're gonna want to (step 1 of project) before you go on to (step 2 of project). Then you're gonna want to (step 3 of project)..."

    Aminah Khan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or anything else, actually. That call for my parent-toddler voice, "Really? Then you can wear big-boy pants now!"

    Rae North
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot stand this. Its like when we say something we're having problems with and they think it requires or we are asking them for a solution. We're not. We just want you to listen.

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love mansplaining things to my wife on purpose

    Kesam
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    1 year ago

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    I don't like the term manspaining. It's basically being condescending while being male. I get that it's a phenomenon and a problem, but so is being condescending while being female. So to me, it's a sexist term. Fighting sexism with more sexism.

    Insomniac
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1/3 I could be caustic and say, "oh, really, what a smart boy you are for figuring that out!" That's my usual response to mansplaining. But... let's dig deeper. The serious side of the concept of mansplaining has been lost, according to Rebecca Solnit, who introduced the concept in 2008. That's where, she says, the harm begins, and I agree with her. Mansplaining is one part of a much bigger societal problem - who gets listened to and believed. Children, elders, disabled, and yes, often women, are treated like incompetent witnesses to their own lives. I am a multiple SA survivor and a DV survivor. I once had to discuss a workplace SA with a bureaucrat who insisted I call it an "interpersonal conflict," as if it was nothing more than an argument rather than a coworker forcing part of his body into my body. My employer refused to take it seriously because I was "too fat for him to find attractive," as my assailant said.

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    #11

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Speaking on my behalf because I didn't answer right away. Like I don't care if you've known me my whole life you don't under any circumstances speak for me. I have a voice.

    SlimJimLahey , RDNE Stock project / pexels Report

    veryvenasaur
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS THIS THIS. After getting my wisdom teeth out I physically could not speak but the doctor still looked at me while talking about the post operative care. Yes obviously they were also talking to my mom and dad because you know anesthesia and stuff but the gesture was there.

    #12

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Idk if this counts but my mom once interviewed a guy who was applying to work for her company and he said something like “I just want to say, I have no issue whatsoever working for a woman.”

    twinbruise , Ron Lach / pexels Report

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What should they do with an applicant who tells them "I just want to say, I believe in keeping work and serial killing completely separate."?

    Mia Hamsa
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OOof.. so many red, loud, moving flags.

    Strings
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The ONLY time this has ever come up for me was HR asking if I could take orders from a woman. I just asked "is she in charge of me?". Either way, question answered

    SkippityBoppityBoo
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Slightly more context is needed for this one. Was he brand new to the working/interviewing process? How old was he? Had he just been on a job training course? Did he say it aggressively or was it something that he just blurted out through nervousness, not that that excuses it but it would give some context.

    Alexandra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It should not have mattered whether he was working for a man or for a woman. Having said that, I had several female co-workers who worked for other women and without exception they hated it. Somehow, their (for lack of a better word) boss would come down extra hard on them, to the point where one co-worker was scolded for leaving mid-morning because her child got into an accident. They told me later it was if those women copied their male counterparts' behaviour and tripled the nastiness.

    Definitely a Human
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    1 year ago

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    ...so he should have said he does have an issue with it? Without context, this one is pretty meaningless

    Ambitious panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    when interviewing for a job do you say, "hey i dont have issues working under a man" COMPLETELY UNPROMPTED

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    #13

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are I'm 5'2" and have never been over 127lbs. I like physically demanding jobs because it makes things go by faster and helps my depression. I constantly get asked if I need help with something heavy. Once had a dude watch me lift a 70lb box onto a conveyor belt and the clap when I got it up there. I gave him a dirty look and he stopped coming near me, so I count that as a win.

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    Definitely a Human
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's almost 32kgs. Way above the legal safe limit in Australia. Maybe you're getting offered help because you're a legal liability?

    Rayne OfSalt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, if ya were doing that and you injured yourself, your workcover claim would be denied because you were acting unsafely.

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anything over 50 lbs requires 2 people to lift. It's not about unwanted chauvinism. It's about the safety of your body. Sure, you can lift 70 lbs alright one time, in that moment. But doing that repeatedly, for hours a day, can do real damage.

    Anyone-for-tea?
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ha, not something the military worries about. You do build up training to run regularly with that kind of weight on your back. My absolute minimum, not including water or rifle, was 25kg, as a woman. I don’t know what the male weight requirement was.

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    Oskar vanZandt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one should carry such weight on their own... I was in a job where I was forced to lift a printer weighing similar to what the OP carried. I injured my arm and it's never fully healed. And I'm 5'9" and weigh 200lbs.

    The Doom Song
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had someone tell me recently "you shouldn't be doing that coz your a woman" whilst I was unloading beer cartons onto a trolley. I laughed and replied "well it won't unload itself"

    Hester
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One time as I walked across the carpark having pulled into my usual spot, a guy who had watched me do it felt the need to compliment me on how confidently I reversed into the space in such a big car (a normal station wagon as driven by mothers all over the world at the time)... I smiled sweetly and replied that I should be confident given I did it every day!

    Steph Adams
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When we move houses the van men are always awestruck that I 'help out' by carrying the boxes. Keep praising me as though women are completely incapable of any form of strength, or even the thought of sharing the workload. They were carrying boxes of books one-by-one into the house and when I started doing the same, they upped it to two boxes of heavy books lol. They were straining lolol, no way could I do two but I didn't need to prove anything unlike them.

    zovjraar me
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i was so proud the moment i d**g a 100 lb weight set off the unloading belt and onto a pallet. i was 92 lb at the time. felt like i had ant blood or something.

    Nika Strokappe
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so annoying and the reason I stopped my side job when I was studying at university. In some fields it is just undoable of you are small and a woman

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    #14

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Kissing my hand when first meeting them. Please no.

    anon , Bethany Ferr / pexels Report

    Rod
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    During a proper "baise-main" the lips are not supposed to be in contact with the hand...

    Weasel Wise
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about not putting your lips near anyone unless they're clearly wanting your lips anywhere near any part of their body?! Crazy thought, I know.

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    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've told guys straight out "a lot of women do NOT like that. You are kissing them without consent." Response: "But I get a kiss! And she can't get mad because I'm being nice!"

    Alexandra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When properly done, one never actually kisses the hand. It's more a matter of leaving a tiny space between the lips and the hand that's being 'kissed'.

    Hester
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How does that make it better?

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    Fat Harry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perhaps they mistook you for the Pope?

    Midoribird Aoi
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only time I was charmed by this was because it was a man with mental disabilities who seldom reacted much to anyone, but I spoke kindly to him and kissing my hand was his response. I was a bit surprised, but accepted it gracefully.

    pelemele
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially since if you want to give a real hand kiss you are not supposed to kiss the back of the hand, just bring your lips close to barely touch it. Kissing the back of the hand is considered rude and disrespectful.

    Another Panda
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. I know it is meant to be a compliment,!but I do not wear a signet ring, and kissing my hand creeps me out.

    Lydsylou (she/her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a thing about hands and I hate other people touching me in any way (I even hate hairdressers because their hands are on my hair) so if someone kissed my hand i would absolutely freak out

    Pittsburgh rare
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rather the hand than the cheek. And rather a handshake than a kiss

    Nannychachi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always found this repulsive.

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    #15

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are When someone interrupts/stops telling a story to apologise for the profanities being used in front of me.

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    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My bf does this at times. I don't mind it so much, considering he knows I swear occasionally and doesn't take issue with it. I think he's calmed down with the apologies a bit over the years. I've had guys completely cut me out of their life and tell me they don't respect me once they hear me curse. That is demeaning.

    Bec
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, I swear like a sailor and have no intention of stopping. I was brought up amongst evangelicals so am very aware the worst people on earth are prudes that gasp at a swear word, but would happily burn a woman at the stake for sex outside of marriage.

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    EmAdoresHerKats🇮🇪🇵🇸🇩🇿
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't swear, we don't swear at home and i don't like profanity at all. So if someone apologises to me i graciously thank them for stopping something they know I'm uncomfortable with. It's very nice of them to consider me.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Overuse of profanity can dilute its usefulness and impact.

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can out-cuss them all. Just tell your stupid story and be done with it.

    Kraneia The Dancing Dryad
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get this a lot...honey I used to work at a casino, I've heard worse from folks who just lost all their money lol your "profanity" ain't nothing.

    MyWeird “WolvesGoTo” DailyLife
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do this with my friend, but that’s because I have an issue with cursing and she’s expressed being uncomfortable—- I also apologize to random strangers to slightly bumping into them— so y’know— I just like to apologize so people don’t get mad at me

    similarly
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son constantly apologizes for his bad language. I don't think he realizes how bad MY language is.

    Ceil
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I were a man I think complaints like this would have me wondering why I should even try to change because regardless women are going to find fault in everything I do or say.

    DragonflyGreen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My go-to response is "that doesn't f---ing bother me."

    Johnnynatfan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So being considerate is now toxic?

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    #16

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are People, especially strangers telling me how young I look or how skinny I am as if it’s a compliment.

    GubbleBumYum , Keira Burton / pexels Report

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was really gross as a teenager to be told "you look so much older! You are so mature for your age, too!" Usually this was a lead-in to a proposition from someone older than my dad.

    Laura Osborne
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get the "you'd be pretty if you weren't fat". And I'm supposed to say thanks for the compliment.

    MrsFettesVette
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've lost a lot of weight unintentionally and people love to compliment me on it. What happens if I gain it back?

    DefinitelyNotTheDuolingoOwl
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. As someone who, for certain health reasons, has difficulty gaining weight, it's not always a compliment to be told I'm thin.

    Becca not Becky
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was being tested for cancer (thankfully negative) because I was randomly losing weight. It was not a compliment at all

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    Weasel Wise
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have more women do this than men, especially working in a restaurant. Folks, going out to eat doesn't involve any bit of commentary about your server's body skinny, fat, or otherwise, it's embarrassing.

    VikingAbroad
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have become extremely aware of how I use compliments. I work a lot with young teenagers, and instead of completing how someone look, compliment what they are doing. 'that was a good way to solve that', 'quick thinking', 'you're really doing well.'

    Kraneia The Dancing Dryad
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have difficulty finding jeans that fit (because I'm short). People tell me how lucky I am because I am "small". Well, okay. Doesn't change the fact I can't find a decent pair of pants that fit....

    Becca not Becky
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gosh yes!! I'm tired of being told I look like a teenager or barely legal. I'm 30!

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a difference between envy and a compliment.

    Nicola Thrope
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To them it probably would be. Imagine people seeing the world through their own eyes. BONKERS, right?!

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    #17

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are When I’m outside a hotel loading my stuff up and they walk up and start grabbing my stuff to “help,” me. Nah, that’s how s**t gets stolen and guys then they you owe them something. Or what happened when I was 12 I was out for a walk and guy in a utility van offered me a ride because it was too cold I declined multiple times and he kept saying he was trying to be nice 🙄like why would I wanna get in your dirty as van with you being a stranger

    susanna270 , Tranmautritam / pexels Report

    Charles McChristy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's always the guys that say, "Hey, I'm a nice guy. Trust me!" Those are the ones you should avoid the most.

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The utility van is a stereotype for a reason.

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    #18

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Random adult men who just happen to be in the same public space that believe they are “being nice” and have a right to get to know me. Being cordial is fine, but pushing hard for information is creepy. Especially when they start topics like, “are you still in school or are you working toward a degree?” Dude, I’m almost 30 but thanks for admitting you were attempting to target someone you thought was significantly younger and naive… it’s not a compliment when they don’t know me!!!

    sleepysheepyborp , cottonbro studio / pexels Report

    Remi (He/Him)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have this theory about why the guys who are trying to appear nice and gentlemanly are so creepy and it's to do with the fact that it's an act and you get the uncanny valley creeps from them like it's something that is almost like a real person, but not quite

    VikingAbroad
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "May I ask you a personal question?" Absolutely effing not! And the same anser goes to the question online 'may I show you something?'

    MushroomHead22
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    he's asking cause he can't tell how old you are, and instead of saying "you look young, like really young, how old are you?" he asks a general question to know if he SHOULD be talking to you or not.

    Dennis Kvistgaard
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If You say this is a problem... Then You should try living in 2024... This is low standard dating.....

    Nicola Thrope
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    1 year ago

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    You need counseling, young lady. This is a precusor to emotionally abusive relationship dynamics like gaslighting. Just because you believe no man would ever smack you, doesn't give you permission to slander people like you're a trashy talk show host. It's not sassy, it's not cute, and it's not a sign of strength. It's abusive and one of the reasons so many of us -- yes, myself included -- get beaten by men.

    #19

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are If I'm holding a door already for everyone to get in and a man has to make it awkward by trying to be gentlemanly and hold the door for me. You're causing a traffic jam then making it awkward holding the door also so now I gotta do a weird shimmy under your arm or go around you somehow to go inside. I hate it. And for what? Because you think it's emasculating for a woman being nice holding a door? You're not actually being nice to me either, you're taking away a choice I made to do an action and saying no, no, you can't do that woman.

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    Stephen Morgan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m 59 and was raised to hold the door for women, children, the elderly and anyone who may have their hands full. Only once in my life was I called out by a women for my “sexist” behavior, but sorry stranger, my mother’s opinion matters more than yours.

    Alexandra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, I'm on the fence about this one. Holding the door open for a woman is, as I see it, just a courtesy. I don't feel diminished or degraded or unempowered by it. Sure I can sit down by myself, but if someone gets my chair for me, that's nice. I don't attach any nefarious intent to it. Of course, I don't let anyone talk over me, but that to me is a totally different thing than holding the door for someone.

    Fat Harry
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think the issue is holding the door, more that OP is ALREADY holding the door for others to go through and a man takes it off her and tries to usher her through it.

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    Belladonna.dreams
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually like when someone else takes over, especially when I've had the door for a number of people and not given the chance to go in.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hold open the door for people smaller than me. Which is just about everyone. It's 25% courtesy and 75% avoiding getting hit in the back of the head by a door someone lost control of.

    Elchinero
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    when she is 20-feet away ... and perhaps NOT (even) coming in ..

    MushroomHead22
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i do this to anyone holding the door too long. you've done your service, let someone else hold it now.

    Nicola Thrope
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are inventing an entire narrative, and overwriting the actual intent. Boys learn from their mothers to hold doors for women, and do not question why. They just do it. The person you should be whining to, is the man's mother, not him. All you're doing is derailing his upbringing, young lady.

    Stephen Morgan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well said. Nothing wrong with more considerate behaviour in the world, I believe.

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    #20

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Men who refuse to swear or use curse words around women because they think we're too fragile and easily offended to handle it.

    See_You_Space_Coyote , Antoni Shkraba / pexels Report

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can out-cuss a drunk rigger. I actually secretly like it when a man finds my language offensive because "women shouldn't talk that way."

    Ripley
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dudes with that attitude can just get f****d.

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    alaina66
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, but sometimes it's a respect thing, too.

    Mike D
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's called getting to know your audience.

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    Fat Harry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the people I know who swear the most are women!

    Mia Hamsa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    or men who say "When you swear or cuss.. I find that so unbecoming of a pretty girl like you. It is unattractive". To which the only response is "Move the flox over, floxing away from my floxing personal space".

    cerinamroth
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I swear a lot. Given the mental health issues I have, I think it's a pretty reasonable trade off for letting off steam and staying reasonably sane. My daughter once swore in front of my mother, who naively said "Oh, she must have picked it up in the playground at school". And I looked her in the eye and said "Mum, she didn't swear in German - she definitely got it from me" (we live in Germany). Of course I try and watch what I say around the kids but sometimes a swear word will slip out. My daughter is old enough to know when it's appropriate to use the different languages she speaks, so I just taught her that it's not always appropriate to use swear words. She accepted and understood.

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are a wonderful parent. I don't know what the German health system is like, but I hope you have access to good treatment.

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    Zach Bigalke
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother taught me every damn profanity that I know.

    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am about swear words what Mark Twain was about cigars - "I can cut them out completely, but I lack the will power for moderation."

    Surenu
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or maybe it's because their mothers scolded them for swearing while their fathers didn't so it's a subconscious association? Didn't happen to me, my mother swears like a sailor, but it's something to think about.

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not wanting to use swear words around women does't necessarily means men think women too fragile. Perhaps it's because they deep down feel that using swear words will negatively impact the view women have of them.

    WindySwede
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    1 year ago

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    If they use sexistic curse words then they should change? At least it the cusser don't have said feature??

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    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a woman, and the only time I keep my language clean is in church and in front of children. But at home, with friends, or alone, I turn into Samuel L. Jackson lol

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    #21

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are A friend of mine really likes to help/defend female friends that are more feminine/delicate looking when they're drunk or being picked at by others, but then picks at/bullies the ones who are more independent/direct. It's the selectiveness that makes me uncomfortable.

    pretentiousant , MART PRODUCTION / pexels Report

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a multiple SA survivor. People don't necessarily believe me because I'm tall and overweight, so either they shouldn't be attracted or I should be able to fight them off. Firstly, predators often choose someone who is likely to have low self-esteem. It's not about attraction. Secondly, PTSD responses suck, and they are very real. If you freeze, you freeze, and you cannot make yourself fight back. Predators know that. Your friend has a predatory nature he hides behind some shallow white knighting.

    cerinamroth
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wishing you well in life. May you know only good things from now on.

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    Yvonne Dauwalder Balsiger
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your friend has a type (feminine, delicate women) and he is only (his idea of) nice to women he wants to f... Red flag

    Anne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's because he knows those are out of his league. The vulnerable ones he can sway. Gross as heck and extreme red flag.

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those guys are not worth hanging out with.

    Anna Ekberg
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this connected to the cringy POV tiktok vids?

    Rayne OfSalt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    never seen one, so I couldn't tell ya. tiktok only shows me painting, gardening and cat videos.

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    #22

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Guiding me with a hand between my shoulder blades.

    karenaviva , cottonbro studio / pexels Report

    Fat Harry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I find this is the easiest way to push my victims down the stairs though.

    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you for making me laugh after some serious emotional heavy lifting tonight.

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    ynyrhydref56
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Small of the back is way creeper

    Min
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Small of the back is even worse.

    Lydsylou (she/her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As I've said previously I would absolutely freak out if anyone touched me in any way so that would absolutely make them wary of doing it to anyone ever again!

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Only do this for people who don't comprehend which direction is forward.

    Meagan Glaser
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or who have poor spatial awareness and are close to the edge of a platform

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    Mia Hamsa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Controlling someone's body like that is disgusting. Happens with both men and women. Kid had a girl in their class who was tall and big and kept doing that to all the other kids.. I found it very problematic.

    Dennis Kvistgaard
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    1 year ago

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    Since the picture does not show a hand behind a shoulder blade... This is obsolete. On the other hand. A hand on the lower back is a common courtesy.

    Lydsylou (she/her)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dennis. As a woman I would.like to inform you that if you ever touched the small of my back and used it to guide me I would not consider it a common courtesy. I would immediately pull away and would have anxiety about the whole situation. It's best to ask before you touch someone because people can become uncomfortable by the smallest things

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    #23

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Not sure if this counts but those cringy "POV" TikToks where a guy acts out an imaginary scenario where he saves a girl from being harrased/assaulted. They just love imagining that a woman is being hurt just so that they can be a hero. And there's always epic movie type music playing in the background.

    No_Natural2495 , Chris F / pexels Report

    Anna Ekberg
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never even heard of this b4, sounds kinda pathetic and cringey but then again i don't have Tiktok and not planning on getting it either.

    Fat Harry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I keep getting asked why I don't have TikTok and my answer is "Because I'm not 12 and I have an attention span that's greater than 10 seconds".

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    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I recently came to realize that the only time one of my male friends takes me seriously is when he gets the chance to play hero. He doesn't want to hang out with me just for the pleasure of my company. He always wants to be fixing or saving me. And if I get annoyed, it's "well, I helped you with XX." And the truth is, he has really helped me in some tough spots. But as I go through my therapy treatment and grow more independent, the less he wants to do with me. I'm not a person to him. I'm fodder for his ego as a hero and a fixer. So I ended the friendship, and he is really upset, not understanding why. But I want a friend, not a guardian.

    #24

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Assuming I'm incapable of doing "mans" work. Being my "friend" just to hop on the first chance to try to sleep with me. Then get salty when they get denied.

    DiligentDocker , Anastasia Shuraeva / pexels Report

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes you go into a friendship thinking that it's a friendship, but you start feeling more. That doesn't make you a bad person, so long as you respect the no and don't get mean about it. Even if you need to leave the friendship after romantic rejection for your own peace of mind, you're still not a bad person. People don't differentiate between jerks who "put the nice coins in hoping the sex will come out" and people who genuinely fall in unrequited love and have to walk away.

    Meagan Glaser
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yes, we do differentiate between those two. One is a group who is COMPLAINING about the friendzone, the other group is normal people dealing with life. Never seen a single human woman who was upset because a guy took romantic rejection WELL

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    The Doom Song
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was single I'd straight up tell guys "it's not gonna happen so don't even bother trying"

    Bored Seb
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And this is why the friendzone does not exist...

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My housemates being surprised when I pulled out a full toolbox.

    Ace
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not a White Knight thing, that's just someone who's socially awkward and hasn't realised that they're crossed the line and are now being downright creepy.

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    #25

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Babying pregnant women because they "need protection", including from themselves. When I was pregnant, one of my coworkers told on me to my husband (we work at the same company) because he thought the box I was carrying was too heavy for a pregnant woman to be carrying. 🙄 My husband laughed in his face because obviously I know my own limits.

    fireflygalaxies , Amina Filkins / pexels Report

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate how pregnant women's bodies are like, community property and everyone feels entitled to know what's happening and tell them what to do.

    lenka
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or strangers telling you what you can and cant eat. I once had a random man in a restaurant berate me for putting salt on my fries because it was bad for the baby. You know what else is bad for the baby... high blood pressure. So STFU and mind your own goddamn business.

    cerinamroth
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES. I was told off by a giant handyman's assistant for microwaving something because it would give the baby cancer. He blocked the doorway with his massive frame while he berated me *in my own home*. It made me feel even more vulnerable than I already did. I told his boss, who I know quite well privately, and he was fired for being a d**k. He was also completely incompetent.

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    Tyke
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a colleague tell me I shouldn't be cycling to work, that was not well received, especially as the day before I took public transport and got elbowed in the stomach. I also had a man insist I take his seat on the tube... I didn't want it. I was going one stop, it took me ages to get back up and nearly missed my stop.

    Kesam
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    1 year ago

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    That was nice of him.

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    KatSaidWhat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People thinking it's ok to touch a random stranger's pregnancy.

    Mike D
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's natural for social animals to be overly caring of their pregnant members.

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    #26

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Dude tried to take ny bag and my arm while walking across an icy parking lot. He kept messing up my balance and finally I was like 'I. GOT. IT.' But he also called me 'Sunshine' at work even though I'm a middle aged, college educated woman. He wasn't flirting, just being a gross misogynist.

    Sassy-Pants_888 , Jose Espinal / pexels Report

    Pittsburgh rare
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If l was called sunshine, considering my resting b***h face, l'd burst out laughing

    WindySwede
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    did they also say "You should smile more" ?? 😅🤨

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    Steve Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You might want to consider what sunshine really means when you hear it from a man.

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    #27

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are People insisting on carrying things for me. I worked in a warehouse for years and can’t count how many times I got told that the lifting should be left for the ‘men’.. I was usually the only employee on shift and if I left all the lifting for them men then I just wouldn’t be employed 🤷🏻‍♀️

    Ill_Task_257 , Ketut Subiyanto / pexels Report

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A bit confusing. If she was usually the only employee on shift then who were all the men who were supposedly telling her to leave the lifting to them?

    Kraneia The Dancing Dryad
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whoever she was taking the boxes to, I guess. She may be the only one in the warehouse, that doesn't mean she's the only one in the building....

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    veryvenasaur
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was working in a grocery store and guys kept trying to take heavier objects from me the thing is I am literally being paid to bag you stuff and load your cart I have a system for what goes where and messing with it is very annoying. The funny thing is I'm 5'8" and an athlete so often times I'd guess I can actually lift more than the guy in question. Like dude I can manage a 24 pack of water it's like 1/10th my max lift.

    MotherofGuineaPigs
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked at a big box store in the paint dept. Men would always pick-up the 5 gal buckets of paint "for me". I would wait until they realize how heavy they actually are and I would carry two at a time. Edit: clarification

    Donald
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Boys are taught by basically every role model they have to help in situations like this throughout their formative years. I get that if someone says, "I've got this, no thanks" and someone keeps trying to help that could be annoying. Just keep in mind that is how most young men are taught. If its a problem to help people lift things so they don't hurt themselves then make sure you teach your kids that.

    #28

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Trying to tell you your relationship is bad because they're rather you were single. I've met several guys who compare people's partners to how they _imagine_ they themselves would behave in the relationship, and whaddya know, the other guys always come up wanting when compared to their personal mythology. And then it heads into "he's not good enough for you", and from there into "why do women only date a******s?"

    Robot_Girlfriend , Roberto Hund / pexels Report

    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am unrequitedly in love at the moment. I'm working to get over him, but I've wanted to be with him my entire adult life (we've both had numerous relationships with other people), and I've been an adult longer than I've been a child. Now, I didn't tell him until recently, so that's my bad. But it's not going to happen, and I'm accepting that. But it's going to take me some time. And I have three different guys telling me to just start hating him and calling him evil. I've told all three of them I'm not interested in a relationship with them. I need to be on my own. But that goes in one ear and out the other. All three of them apparently have a magic d**k that will cure my ills.

    Sweet Taurus
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I went through something similar except I had a few months where we were seeing each other. I didnt tell him I was in love with him but I felt that the feelings were mutual. Little did I know I was just a rebound for him. It took me so long to get over the way I felt about him. I’m now married and 10,000 times more in love with my husband then I ever felt for that guy. It’ll get better with time.

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    Ms.GB
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always thought this. A guy goes "Why is she dating that a*****e, I'd treat her like a queen!"...Yeah, maybe for the first few weeks of the relationship just like that "a*****e" probably did. It doesn't matter how much you're crushing on someone, once you get into a relationship eventually you're both going to be yourselves and nobody lacks flaws, everyone argues. Pretty soon some other dude is going to be saying the same thing to her about you..

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    #29

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Ugh I have a story for this one I used to work in a brothel, I did quite well and didn’t mind the work at the time. One day a very rich (now ex) friend offered me money completely unprompted. I thought maybe he wanted sexual favours but he claimed that wasn’t it. I declined stating that I don’t take money I haven’t earned then few months later he offered me a job. He claimed he’d pay me whatever I ask to be on call 24/7 as his personal assistant (he ran multiple businesses) i was about to start working as an escort for an agency making upwards of $500 an hour, I would have barely had to work but he swooped in with this incredible offer of training me in his field and flying me around the world I thought I may as well take the opportunity. Seeing as I was about to make so much money I set my price pretty high but then s**t got weird. He offered me a personal assistant job, but instead of filing paperwork and organising meetings as he promised I spent each day cleaning his apartment and tending to his increasingly ridiculous requests (drive 14 hours to pick something up, organise mtg cards, fix an aircon etc) THEN he decided he’d rather only pay me half of what he promised for the 2 months of work I did and that’s when I quit, there was no contract or anything so had to cut my losses. I chalk this up to a white knight complex because on multiple occasions he tried to “help” me financially and tried to give me an out of the s3x industry neither of which I wanted or asked for and it actually ended up screwing me over I couldn’t afford rent or food for the month after and lost the chance to be with the agency.

    Miss_111 , Anna Shvets / pexels Report

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He wanted to ruin your career because he thought it was immoral. He probably still thinks he did the right thing.

    Mimi M
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hence the old therapy saying: 'Helpfulness is just the bright side of control'.

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    #30

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Men I don’t know being gentlemanly (hmm) and letting me walk up the stairs in front of them when I’m wearing a short skirt or shorts. This usually happens with repairmen in my house.

    Late_Significance519 , Daniel Duarte / pexels Report

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "After you" is just basic politeness. We're not all voyeurs and rapists.

    Marcel Godferdom
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    French savoir vivre says that you should precede a woman when entering an unfamiliar place and on stairs. If you do it, do it well.

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    Anne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In your house, you know the way. They don't. How are they supposed to not follow you? If it makes you uncomfortable, perhaps.. a longer skirt or shorts when you expect repairmen that need to work upstairs?

    OneWithRatsAndKefir
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Though, it’s not hard to ‘know the way’ up some stairs and just wait a few seconds for her to catch up, then let her lead once both people are on the same level.

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    ynyrhydref56
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like he should know where stuff is in your house???

    MR
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In... your house... the repairman has no idea where they're going. You do. It's *your* house. You *should* be leading. And if you're wearing something so revealing that you can't have a stranger walk behind you without getting a vibe, maybe you should rethink what you're wearing. Or at least have a robe handy.

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, you let the homeowner lead the way in their own house.

    SirWriteALot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If its in YOUR HOUSE you're expected to lead the way, so that's natural. Also, Knigge said we have to walk behind you in case you fall so we can catch you. :-D But I know ... walking up something with your bum in someone else's face is weird. I usually move to the side or walk slower to make it less awkward.

    Meagan Glaser
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the dudes in the comments here who don't get that women 1) have different clothes and 2) can tell when the same situation gets very different results when wearing different outfits Dudes, when we complain about "men" doing things, we're running stats in our head. It's not that one man did = all men did. It's that we noticed that when A happens X number of men do this, when B happens Y number of men do this, and in our experience X > Y so therefore in our experience when A happens "men" do this

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Notice that these men do exactly the same thing when you wear pants or a long dress. It's a safety custom. If the smaller person goes first and slips, the larger person can block their fall down the stairs. Much less likely to be successful if that order is reversed.

    Meagan Glaser
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *Notice that these men do NOT do exactly the same thing when you're wearing pants All y'all think women don't notice the difference? Are we that stupid that we've never put noticed, or just lying?

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    #31

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Men getting unnecessarily loud/aggressive with customer service people at small inconveniences in order to seem more alpha/in control. I have zero problem standing up for myself or resolving my own issues. However I’m not going to treat people like s**t to do so. If I need to escalate something I’m going to be firm but civil. It’s incredibly embarrassing to watch them step in and puff out their chest and throw a literal tantrum.

    kdspiralz , Andrea Piacquadio / pexels Report

    Rayne OfSalt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry, but going off at customer service workers over minor inconveniences is not a gendered thing. Just as many women do it as men.

    Bonesko
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've worked in restaurants for many years and I agree.

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    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've worked customer service. And I've had those guys come at me. But I grew up with a 6'4 dad with a nasty temper, so at age 20, I was basically immune to physical intimidation. I got fired after I laughed at one of them, though.

    Kesam
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh yes, hard to disagree with that one! 😅

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    #32

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are When guys come up to u while ur clearly having a fun and enjoyable time and being very affectionate towards a guy or person ur with and they ask the "is this guy bothering u" I can not tell u how many times this has happened to me when I was with my husband and we act like any other married couple holding hand and laughing and just having fun and guys have come up to me to ask At first I just thought it was tht maybe I looked uncomfortable or something with out Meaning to then some of my guy friends were like oh nah they prolly have a hero complex and wanna be the knight in shining armor some guys are just like tht so idk

    ManicMangoMilkshake , cottonbro studio / pexels Report

    #33

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Needing to feel needed and not being able to cope when you do in fact not need them

    TumbleweedDeep4878 , Liza Summer / pexels Report

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's more of a human condition, I think. Many people need to feel needed for various reasons.

    Stephen Morgan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like your comments throughout this post as they project common sense and compassion, traits lacking a lot these days.

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    Kesam
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's human to need to feel needed. Unless they're being obnoxious, don't be so harsh on people.

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    #34

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are Opening the car door for me. It’s very awkward waiting for them to walk around and open it. Ima big girl and can handle the door myself.

    needafightingchance , Сергей Тарасов / pexels Report

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, of course you can. It's just a courtesy, that's all.

    MR
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then why haven't you already opened the door? Like, it takes awhile to get out of the car and walk around it. What on earth are you doing during this time? Nesting?

    arthbach
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband did this the other day. But it should be said I had damaged my shoulder. He opened the door, put the seat belt around me, kissed me on the top of the head, and closed the door. This is loving and caring for an injured partner. He doesn't normally do this, because I don't normally need this.

    Rayne OfSalt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one made me go ask the group chat cos while I don't date guys, I find them opening doors for me to be rather sweet. The only remotely negative response was from the lesbians, who were all annoyed at the suggestion of being on a date with a guy.

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A guy broke up with me over this. I'm used to being very independent, and it was such a struggle to get used to him opening the door, so I finally told him I appreciated that he was so considerate and gentlemanly, but it was stressing me out to always remember to wait and let him, so could I just get in the car myself? And that was it. He was done.

    Meagan Glaser
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this is the part all the "but it's just being polite" responses are missing- the social norms at play, and how there's no one "right" way to handle these situations with someone you don't know well.

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    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These days, some people ask "Do men still open car doors?" "Of course, that's how we get inside."

    Jean Lancelin
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When a man open the car door to a women, you know that at least one of the two is new ;-)

    Elchinero
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the guy standing in the street with an open door ... for her to step into traffic

    cerinamroth
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't get a taxi in Japan, then; you'll freak out.

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    #35

    30 ‘White Knight’ Behaviors Men Still Do Without Realizing How Toxic They Really Are My husband can do all that stuff for me.. order my food/drink without asking me? Sure thing! Open the vehicle door for me? Well thank you! Offer to carry the bags of stuff to our destination? You're amazing!! We've been married nearly 10 years and he still does all that and more for me. If it was a first date and the guy tried to do that I'd probably.. have to go to the bathroom and not go back. My hubby and I met in high-school. He was there for me in the hardest parts of my life. He knows me more than I know myself sometimes. He has always been my knight in shining armour. The only things he could possibly do to make me uncomfortable, he does on purpose, because we need excitement in our lives lmao.

    Nature_Soldier , Jack Sparrow / pexels Report

    Elchinero
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    1 year ago

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    Nice "Mother-In-Law Tongue"

    JM
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand what this means - could you please explain?

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