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28 Examples Of Hilariously Unrealistic Expectations When Applying For A Job
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Far from every interview is a success and a lot of us have some nightmare stories to tell. But the nightmare usually starts with the first filter—actually qualifying for the job which can have high demands and low rewards. Sometimes, it can seem like even waiting tables and brewing coffee requires a Bachelor’s or a Master’s degree (talk about inflation, right?).
One of the people who posted about unrealistic expectations is Sebastián Ramírez, who created FastAPI 1.5 years ago. According to him, the job post requires 4+ years of experience in FastAPI and even he, the founder, couldn’t apply for the job. Which brings us to the main question: why do companies do this?
Inspired by Sebastián's post, we've collected examples of some of the most unrealistic criteria that recruiters have had while hiring professionals for job positions, so scroll down and upvote the ones that left an impression on you. We also know that this is something that a lot of you Pandas can relate to, so be sure to share your own job-hunting experiences in the comments. Read on for Bored Panda’s in-depth interview with Sebastián about companies setting unrealistic standards for potential employees.
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Adrian 5 years ago
I went for a job interview as a website designer in 2009 (my last interview - I'm now 74yo). Anyway, I explained my work history mostly computing since 1965. Young jerk wanted to know if I'd been designing websites the whole time. Took a while to convince him it was only invented in 1989 , and more widely available since 1992/1993. I'm afraid I was a bit sarcastic - I didn't get the job, thank the Lord - been mountain biking ever since
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Chelle Snail 5 years ago
OMG some employers are so stupid. I hope you showed the foolish interviewer a thing or two lol
K.Kobayashi 5 years ago
Clearly this guy just went in for an interview as a joke, otherwise he would have explained that he's the creator of that library.
Anja Schmidt 5 years ago
expert guys adorable funny ... another series from "when you don´t see, who´s in front of you" ...
Ibby Rashid 5 years ago
so basically person a is trying to get a job but person b says that he cannot get that job because he does not understand the concepts of a certain apple library even though person a wrote it
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Foxxy (The Original) 5 years ago
Does this company understand what an internship is coz I think not.
Samantha Lomb 5 years ago
they understand its an easy way to get free skilled labor
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Martha Meyer 5 years ago
Some of these companies need to be notified that slavery isn't legal anymore, I think.
Simon Sarkest 5 years ago
I dont think his boss is gonna sell him to a new CEO to go work in mcdonald next winter... there are some differences
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Roy Phillips 5 years ago
Reminds me of a wise-crackin' Spec4 I knew in the Army. We were part of a cadre put together to get our company re-qualified on their M16s. When the job was done, Officer in Charge, a Captain, in an attempt to have some fun with the Spec4, told him that the cadre from this job were planning a little party to celebrate its successful completion. "SO?" asks the Spec 4. "Well" the Captain went on "we're looking for someone to clean up after its over." Spec4 never missed a chance. Replied in no uncertain tones: "You can keep right on looking!"
Anja Schmidt 5 years ago
when the intern has to save a company financially from the downfall ...
K.Kobayashi 5 years ago
In their defense, video production is something kids do on their home PCs now. This is a pretty well-known company, so they can probably pick and choose the most qualified students as interns.
#3
chi-wei shen 5 years ago
At this moment this is the last item on the list and it for sure is the worst. I still hope it's only a joke.
Carrie de Luka 5 years ago
It isn't real as far as I can see. Found this: "even though it has been reposted on multiple Reddit threads, the internship is definitely fake. Eisele & Stern, the company that supposedly came up with it, does not appear in Google searches. Furthermore, the portal has removed the listing and announced that an investigation is underway".
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AzKhaleesi 5 years ago
I'm sorry wtf??? why would I PAY to work somewhere???? How is that going to pay my bills
Soraya Imperial 4 years ago
Although this one isn't real, this happens a lot in Portugal, in particular with Lawyers. To join the bar after your four years of degree, you need to intern for a lawyer firm. However, there are very few firms and a lot of student lawyers. Some of them actually charge students for the opportunity of interning with them.
“I understand recruiters need to try and get the best candidates for their organizations, that's what they are trying to achieve. But they don't have a way to know beforehand who will be good at a certain job and who won't. So they have to resort to some type of proxy for that information,” Sebastián went into detail why some recruiters have very high and sometimes unrealistic expectations for potential employees.
“And probably for legacy reasons and status quo, the main proxies for that information have been a degree and ‘years of experience.’ It's simple and easy to measure, years of experience is just a number, and a degree is a specific name (or set of names).”
Sebastián then explained what the negative side effects of this type of thinking can be. “Those indicators don't really measure someone's ability to perform some tasks,” he said.
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chi-wei shen 5 years ago
This sums up the essentials of all job offers in this post. You have to be an experienced expert and we will pay you with free coffee.
Jewell Martin 5 years ago
In our church denomination, it is common to have a prospective new pastor come “try out” by going to the church, preaching a sermon, having an interview with the financial board, another q and a time with the church as a whole, and possibly an interview with the wife (or husband), and maybe a church dinner. The interviewee is usually given a check to cover travel expenses. Many of us pastoral families came up with the “real” qualifications that churches want: A young man of thirty with twenty years’ experience A beautiful family and the wife must play the piano and sing like an angel (for free) Accept a salary that is basically minimum wage, but maintain a standard of living that makes the church look high class Be able to double the membership (without costing anything and certainly no changing the leadership Agree with and promote the leadership’s political, financial, and other opinions We had over forty years of blessed pastoral experience before my hubby retired.
Raine Soo 5 years ago
This one is a joke, right? Either that or the employer is completely delusional.
Joshua Fairchild 5 years ago
As author of said joke, it was indeed a joke.
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#5
Do you really think I'd still be in webdev if I had a time machine?
MRK 5 years ago (edited)
This is due to the fact that HR has no real idea of what each of these jobs do. They are using a cut and paste mentality in a fast evolving tech world.
Carrie de Luka 5 years ago
True but person specifications and job descriptions should be looked over by line managers to make sure that the details have some credibility. It's lazy on both parts.
Load More Replies... joe 5 years ago
Angular 2.0 was released in Sep 2016, but AngularJS 1.x was released years before that, so it's very much possible to have that experience. For instance, I do. Still a ridiculous amount of required experience when you combine in with requiring 4 years of React as well. lol.
Joran Quinten 5 years ago
But then again, as you already stated, 1.x is commonly known as AngularJS instead of Angular. I like the postings that assume that Java and JavaScript are the same
Load More Replies... D. ONeill 5 years ago
Its more insidious than that. Its part of the H1B process. Its cheaper to employ people from places in 3rd world countries, but in order for you to "qualify" you have to prove than no one in your market has those skills. So HR departments create these "fake" posting with no interest in filling the position. They then will claim that there are "no qualified candidates available" and will get issued a H1B visa so they can pay people about 30%-50% of their US counterparts. There is always a reason and that reason isn't always stupidity.
katboxjanitor 5 years ago
All in how you frame your reply - The *equivalent* of 5 years experience as a mystical Angular Guru on a 2.5 year, highly compressed timeline project at Watt d'Phoque Corp.
Viktor Feurer 5 years ago (edited)
The first public release of AngularJS (v1.0) was in 2010... I am using it since 2013...
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Brendan 5 years ago
I have friends with masters degrees, and years later, some of them are still doing unpaid internships. It turns out that work experience counts for a lot more than education.
Hafida 5 years ago
Indeed. Like here in the Netherlands they pay for your experience
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CatWoman312 5 years ago (edited)
And this sh!t right here is why I work a non degree required job. I get $21 an hour and if I decide to pursue my degree I’ll have to go back down to about $15-$18 an hour. Logic someone?
Lydia Dean-Melchior 5 years ago
Yeah. Wouldn't be a wage per hour? Good catch.
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Jason Lutz 5 years ago
This is why people are having such a hard time paying off student loans.
“A degree (or set of degrees) in many cases indicates that someone went to a specific physical location periodically for a long period of time, studying certain related subjects, reading and studying about those subjects, and finding a way to pass many, many exams. Those degrees for sure indicate perseverance doing that for years. And although it means that someone had available several ways to acquire some knowledge and skills, it doesn't necessarily mean that person was able to get them.”
He continued: “And then, the exams try to measure someone's ability to do something but are still a heavily simplified way to measure it, another proxy. And in cases, those passed exams to get a degree were measuring skills that might not necessarily be perfectly related to the ones the recruiter cares about.”
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Carrie de Luka 5 years ago
Probably posted by some badly paid drone in HR. Doubt they care if there are typos or might even delight in including them.
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Tor Rolf Strøm 5 years ago
Hello, you cant program a time machine and go back a couple of times to up your experience? SLACKER
Adrian Eftimie 5 years ago
That what happens when people that have no idea of what they are doing place work adds ..
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Truth Monster 5 years ago
Pretty sure this is in Malaysia, which would explain the bizarre grammar and the unreasonable demands by western standards
Martha Meyer 5 years ago
You don't say? What gave it away? The currency, the city name or the Malaysian job portal?
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Joakim Brestrup 5 years ago
You may go, but you will get black listed in the Malaysia After Death database.
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Queen Jackson. 5 years ago
according to bing , 1,100 RM is about 257 USD. that times 12 is 3084 USD. A year. if 18k is poverty, you can't even eat off that money. This is definitely a joke.
Marky Mark 5 years ago
I have been to Malaysia. $1,100 RM is not much, particularly in bigger towns. You can't pay rent, transportation and feed yourself on just that.
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Karin Jansen 5 years ago
Ah yes, "no simply off" and "attendence no good". This seems like an employer that knows what he's talking about xD.
Amirul Shazwan 5 years ago
I'm from this country. Those terms are literally illegal under our employment laws (based on the posted salary)
Stick Man 5 years ago
Is unemployment so bad that they would receive a pool of candidates with that posting? I could see how they could get away with it, if times were that bad and people desperate. Shameful in the end, all the way around.
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You have to be available 40 hours a week but you'll only get at maximum $100 a week. So no second job but $10 dollars an hour? You needed a degree too
Georgia Valentine 5 years ago (edited)
No need for the more, its pointless. Busier is enough,
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Hollie Newton 5 years ago (edited)
My mum was a hospital receptionist with admin/typing qualifications she obtained doing computer courses at night school
Nan Warren 5 years ago
My sister applied to be a receptionist at a real estate office and they paid $9 an hour and required a college degree. She asked them who would do that job for that little if they had a degree and they responded "Some rich guy's wife who is looking to fill time". Actually admitted it.
spharoe 5 years ago
The worst part is that this is the norm. It is really, REALLY hard to get a job. Now they check your credit?! What? These companies are missing out on such good people, because of dumb s**t like a low credit score. People who would show up, and work hard. People who, because no one will HIRE them, end up stuck on Medicaid with a Bridge Card, and a government who would rather exterminate them than help them.
Jesse 5 years ago
HR professionals spend more time trying not to do their jobs than any other profession. It's a crooked industry and I'd fire my entire HR Department if I could figure out how. They're an enemy you have to pay for. We decided assassinating them would be the lowest risk method of dealing with them, but it's really expensive.
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Paizleypie 5 years ago
Urgently hiring! We'll give you $10 - $11 an hour because we need you so URGENTLY!
Jane Dorothy Warner 5 years ago
My daughter couldn't apply now for the position she's held for 23 years, since, now, you need a degree for the job. So the people she works alongside, despite having degrees, only earn as much as she, the unqualified yet experienced worker, does.
According to Sebastián, its “highly admirable” when people are capable of learning a lot of skill sand studying a lot for a long time. “That is probably the actual objective of someone getting a degree. But the degree itself is not the only way to prove that someone did that. And in cases, it might not even be the best way to prove that,” he said.
“At the same time, someone else might acquire the needed skills for the required tasks, but not necessarily through the established ways to get a degree. This becomes even more evident in industries like technology, that move faster than what a rigid education system can always follow,” Sebastián told us.
“On the other hand, years of experience is another proxy that assumes that every person will find the same obstacles (or at least the same amount or type of obstacles) as any other person, learning the same ideas, developing the same skills. But the problem is that one person might keep doing the same thing for a long period of time, accumulating "years of experience" but not actually acquiring new skills. And at the same time, someone could quickly learn new technologies that allow them to perform different tasks more easily, learn how to perform many different tasks, or handle some complex problems and learn how to overcome some difficult obstacles, acquiring a lot of actual ‘experience’ and skills in a very short period of time.”
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Kathy Baylis 5 years ago (edited)
Yes! Someone needs to conduct some refresher training for HR departments, and go over the definition of the words “entry level”, amongst others. Metrics, which were never a good idea to begin with, need to be tossed in the trash where they belong, and Hiring Managers need to go back to reviewing applications by eye—-and given enough staff at large companies to adequately do so, like they used to before the “shortcuts” were invented—-thereby reintroducing human judgement to the equation. Experienced hiring department employees develop a knack for judging whether someone would be a good fit for the job they’re applying for, or even another one getting ready to open up. Those are all the kind of finer grade, gray area things computer programs, which can only think in black and white, just cannot do.
Foxxy (The Original) 5 years ago
Would hate to know what qualifications are needed for a senior role.
Fish Boden 5 years ago
Nah, you just have to be the bosses offspring. Too easy!
Load More Replies... karin s. 5 years ago
When my qualification was considered entry level and a lot of words were spent on that topic, I said that I seemed not to fit into the company. Then the boss disagreed and talked about the education the company would give me if I would work for a reduced salary. But I left and then I think the boss noticed that she went to far into degrading me and my qualifications and that she would have to wait sometime until she would get the next application as my profession is scarce.
Electric Ed 5 years ago
On LinkedIn it's seem pretty standard to not fill in "Seniority Level" and let it default to "entry level". For whatever reason.
Leo Domitrix 5 years ago
"HI! Do you know everything about the business? Great! You can get a managerial position, only we're paying $9/hour, no benefits, no overtime!"
Lisa Shelton 4 years ago
I guess it depends on the industry and what they mean by entry level. Entry level at an architect/engineering firm might mean you are lowest architect on the totem pole but you will still be designing buildings and so need experience, compared to entry level at an insurance firm where you will be filling out forms and answering phones.
Valerie Anne 5 years ago
I used to be a recruiter and seeing this stuff used to make me crazy!
#11
These must be the most amazing donuts in the world
Marky Mark 5 years ago
Damn. I only have a Masters. That doghnut serving process will be too complex for me.
Anil Babu 5 years ago
Currently, the Minimum salary as per the Fair work act in Australia is $19.84. Start salary of $17 is illegal.
Load More Replies... Dave P 5 years ago
We+ll for certain PhD's like Gender Studies (3x the number of degrees than jobs), English (2x the number of degree than jobs), etc, you can actually find PhD's to do this
K.Kobayashi 5 years ago
Yes, but no cafe would actually list that as a qualification. This is obviously an error or a joke.
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Jakub Wasilewski 5 years ago
I think that's a joke. Although I remember that a lot of master degreee and PhD students were working in McDonalds in my hometown. SO for ex I was working in kitchen (when in highschool) with doctoral student from Maths-physics university and master degree student from nuclear physics :D
SanchaTheSeeker 5 years ago
Melburnians really take their coffee seriously so they'll only purchase from stores that have employees with a Doctoral Degree
Caitlyn Woods 5 years ago
As a coffee obsessed Melbournian, I can confirm this (also that particular one is literally 15 minutes from me and their coffee is terrible)
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Sue Sanders 5 years ago
Think I'll sleep on the streets, or under an overpass. Much more rewarding for my doctoral degree.
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Tor Rolf Strøm 5 years ago
Duuh, if you're really good at swift, you work so swiftly that you get several years experience every year.
Gary Richter 5 years ago
If you work enough hours a year you could accumulate 7+ years of experience in 6 years or less
Looking for a job can feel like you’re in the Stone Age, hunting for an elusive, quick-footed, and surprisingly picky gazelle that will only let you catch it if you have the right, overinflated qualifications. You’re famished but the gazelle keeps taunting you: “No Master’s degree? No dinner!”
Replace the gazelle with recruiters who have unrealistic criteria while hiring professionals and you’re back in the 21st century, struggling to find a job during the (pardon my French) crapfest that is 2020.
We get it, recruiters want to find the ‘perfect’ candidate to fill each and every job opening. However, impractical expectations about the job market can do more harm than good: the person who can do the job well and with passion can also be someone who doesn’t qualify because their job experience is ‘insufficient.’ Or ‘wrong.’
#13
Leo Domitrix 5 years ago
"Must be able to use everything that was ever invented, for minimum wage".
Astrid Nineor 5 years ago
Standard I applied for about 150 jobs in this category, I wonder if anyone with that much experience would ever work at such a place
Kerri Russ 5 years ago
And because so many people are desperate, they will take these jobs... ALL of them with such low or no pay (and one where you pay THEM???). As time goes by, salaries will drop all over the place and we drop into a recession because you know goods and services won't drop, too. This is what happened with medical transcription from home. Once a $35k a year job became less than minimum wage after they shipped it offshore for pennies a line. When they realized that people who don't speak English as their primary language had a high error rate that didn't really improve, they came back to native English speaking transcriptionists, they refused to pay what they had before, preferring the pennies a line rate they paid for the offshore work... and even less for proofing the transcription done by the auto programs and reports by doctor's with accents, both light and heavy, nearly had to be retyped from scratch, not just proofed but we stil only got paid for proofing, not typing.
Tor Rolf Strøm 5 years ago
31 years work experience. And here I was thinking being old was a minus!
Meami 5 years ago
I actually applied for a job that had this kind of list one time. It turned out I didn't actually need to be proficient in all of them but I needed to have a basic understanding and be willing to get more training in the ones that I wasn't proficient in. I got the job. Sometimes it pays to apply and see what happens. I think someone mentioned that HR often decides "years of experience" required and has no idea what they are asking.
Donald Holder 5 years ago
What type of PhD degree corespondents well with a "barista" job? Chemist, Pharmacist?
Anja Schmidt 5 years ago
"must be divine, working with multible arms but has to forget about it´s origin and be thankful to start as a newbie" XD
Dwåne Røbertsen 5 years ago
I'm sorry. I don't see the issue with this one. Someone with just around 5 years experience is just a junior developer. So I totally agree that this is an entry level position.
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CatWoman312 5 years ago (edited)
They’re people who don’t do the job or have any idea about the job. I don’t understand why recruiters is a thing. Why can’t the hiring manager do all the recruiting?
Rebecca McManus 5 years ago
The recruiter is only reading the JD written by the hiring manager
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CrunChewy McSandybutt 5 years ago
Prior to an interview, I had to go through a list of words and pick ones that I felt described me. It was really vague and, honestly, there couldn't have been a wrong answer. Yet, I was rejected solely on my answers. I'm really curious about what the right answers were.
J. Zingler 5 years ago
That's the test. This a a 101 psycology lesson, there are no right answers, they just want toi see how you cope with it. Like the Kobayashi-Maru test from Startrek.
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Megan Pawlak 5 years ago
I hate personality tests because I was hired when there wasn’t one, and when I had to reapply (I was moving into management) the system flagged me as “red” meaning that they shouldn’t take me on. Lucky for me, my boss already knew I was ACTUALLY A HARD WORKER and responsible. Lol
Belinda Matson 5 years ago
And yet the world over millions seem totally ill suited for, or just plain miserable in their jobs. HR getting off on quizzes & tests seems to have done sweet FA for employee satisfaction & job performance.
Sue Sanders 5 years ago
I was told by an interviewer that I got the job because I'd mentioned I was taking my mother to lunch afterwards.
Rochelle Flores 5 years ago
My guess is the right answer was "Willing to work for peanuts and no benefits."
Isabel Care 5 years ago
I had a job interview with written test in my lunch half hour. The written part was supposed to take over an hour. I completed the tests, corrected the spelling and grammar, corrected the multi choice questions that had no correct answers and had the interview in 29 minutes. First note on my file "official smart a**e"
Freya the Wanderer 5 years ago
I hate those *@$%×#£@€ "personality" tests with a purple passion! Sometime I am tempted to write "THIS IS PURE BULL####" in any spaces provided.
Karin Jansen 5 years ago
There is some truth to this though. Most jobs require skills in the field of teamwork, communication, flexibility, stressmanagement, timemanagement, etc. That's why people that seem qualified on paper aren't necessarily the best fit for the job. Tests such as these can help as they tell the employer something on these matters (as well as on someone's analytical skills).
Brendan 5 years ago
Totally agree. An applicant may have the perfect skills, but if the employer doesn't expire get along with you, it's not going to work.
Load More Replies...British recruitment experts Brand Recruitment explained that companies want a proper return on investment. However, they often “don’t actually know what they’re looking for at all” while their job descriptions, especially for new positions can look like a “5-year-old’s Christmas list, with bullet point after bullet point of everything they MUST have.”
Recruiters also have to be realistic when it comes to actual job performance. Ideally, they want to find a new employee who can do their job immediately without any training. Contrast that to the idea that recruiters should find people who have a lot of potential but require nurturing and guidance. Unfortunately, hidden gems stay hidden and don’t get a chance to shine if companies only want a bunch of boxes ticked (and a Master’s degree for a 15 dollar hourly wage).
#16
Nicola Roberts 5 years ago
Hahaha just like 'key workers'. Not sure if this translates worldwide, but those that kept working despite low pay and a pandemic. We thank you for your service! (I do, but that was good old fashioned British sarcasm).
bryguy 5 years ago
Not sure about everywhere but in Canada all essential workers were given a boost in salary/hourly wage during the pandemic
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Eulalie Grace 5 years ago
Volunteers - priceless. That IS priceless. I had a docent volunteer friend tell me why we were called docents ... because it DOESN'T pay anything. But we did work everyone else did, and more 😸
Meami 5 years ago
This is kind of funny. I was volunteering for something once (I can't remember what) and the head nutcase kept complaining that she didn't like the way we were doing things (it was fine...). I pointed out that we were volunteers and that we could leave anytime and she could do it herself. She shut up after that.
Freya the Wanderer 5 years ago
Gratitude is nice, but you can't use thank-yous to buy groceries.
Kerri Russ 5 years ago
Do businesses really think platitudes like that actually work? PR companies come up with this c**p, chuckling to themselves about how THEY wouldn't fall for it, but all the idiots out there will. Um... guys? No... no we won't. It may sound cute... but it's demoralizing. You're not paying them because you don't want to and if you can get some sucker to do it for free, COOL! A******s.
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Troux 5 years ago
This is gonna be outside the US/UK, considering the author isn't too 'airly in English.'
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Kerri Russ 5 years ago
What does "Airly in English" mean?? And you cannot let applicants know you are considering their looks. It's sa sales job so of COURSE they'll consider it. But they can't SAY they are. Doofuses. (or is that doofusi?)
Judi Michelle 5 years ago
Home shopping? Is that like add to cart on amazon Bc if so IM A SHOE IN
Brendan 5 years ago
Why bother including "Sex: Male/Female"? If that's the exhaustive list, and there's no preference, what's the point?
Eric Mac Fadden 5 years ago
Even not being fair, sales can become much easier if you're "good looking". Now imagine that Austin Powers' mole scene....
⚞ Katniss Everdeen ⚟ 5 years ago
The fact that jobs can hire for 'only female' or 'only male' is, in and of itself, DEEPLY disturbing
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Tor Rolf Strøm 5 years ago
Alright! I qualify! I have a bullsh** degree in engineering, plus I am over ten years old. Ka-ching!
John Montgomery 5 years ago
As someone who works in semiconductors entry level is only high school. I don't know what these people are smoking.
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Falcon 5 years ago
Ah yes, everybody knows you get a free lab when you get a bachelor's degree so you can do your job for free.
Annemarie Mattheyse 5 years ago
Also, this is supposed to be a remote position. How on earth are you supposed to access the lab from home?
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Foxxy (The Original) 5 years ago
Is this actually allowed? My understanding is that an internship is for someone to train, learn about the business, helping out etc. Similar to an apprenticeship except an internship is unpaid.
Catlady6000 5 years ago
That is what an internship is supposed to be for, there have been lawsuits where interns were just free labor and weren't given any training or learning opportunities. They were used as errand runners or janitors, etc
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Julie Bradley 5 years ago
I have access to a free lab. Well actually he wasn't free, I got him from the SPCA and had to pay the donation. But I have access.
Jane Alexander 5 years ago
Anyone with those qualifications and access to a lab could just create their own line of products.
Lisa Shelton 4 years ago
In other words "you will work for us for free until you create something worthwhile, which we will then steal and send you a pink slip"
katboxjanitor 5 years ago
SO tempting to send cover letter document explaining that this job requisition displays an appalling level of unprofessionalism by including conflicting requirements, incompatible training\educaion, and my amazement that as of this writing 102 desperate people applied.
Donald Holder 5 years ago
WANTED: Any idiot with a chemistry BS degree who feels they owe the world everything they know free of charge.
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Kerri Russ 5 years ago
Wow. I did medical transcription from home 15 years ago. Some transcriptionists said they made $35k a year. I took the 2-year course. In that time, transcription services were offered offshore. By the time I got my degree and a job, stuff was stating to move back due to quality issues with language. But by then, doctors didn't want to pay what they had paid before. I was making 7 cents an hour on straight transcription and 5 cents an hour on automatic trascription, which is basically proofing transcription that the doctor dictated directly into a program that types up what it hears, which was making headway at the time. For the year, I made less than minimum wage. Another year later, I got a new job out of the house. That degree was a waste of time and money.
Lisa Shelton 5 years ago
I got a transcription certificate back in 2012 and it took me about 6 months but I got a job with a local hospital doing transcription. Unfortunately it was temporary as they were consolidating their records into a single system and when they were done there was less work to do. I continued on for a while part time but got fewer and fewer hours as they moved into more voice recognition. I was being paid per line so at my peak I was getting around $25 per hour for editing the voice recognition files. At the end though I had gone around 3 months without more than a few hours work when I got hired to do sales transcription for a steel manufacturing and construction supply company. Once I got over the linguistic differences I really learned to appreciate it. It's way more laid back even if I'm making a little less per hour, and they let me work from home.
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Danny Bourne 5 years ago
I tell you that that’s a far better $ rate than I get doing police transcription and I have 31 years experience. I had people giving me work tips who weren’t even born whe I started transcription.
Susi Moffitt 5 years ago
I’ve got nearly 30 years of medical transcription experience and would never accept such low pay
ebony1k124 touch 5 years ago
Does learning to write my A,B,Cs when dictated to me in Kindergarten go towards experience?
GenXandEarnedItAll 5 years ago
That's less than I get paid for 25+ years at the Fire Department. Lol
Terry Thompson-Schmitz 5 years ago
Unfortunately, Indeed requires you to list an hourly rate. Since TTE pays by audio minute, how much you make per hour depends on how fast you type. Someone who transcribes 60wpm, which is a bit on the slow side, will average $10/hr. Someone who types up to 120 wpm will make approximately $25/hr. You really should contact the company before slamming it in your post without knowing any thing about the business.
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Argie Smith 5 years ago
This is code for "We're not going to pay you squat and you will like it" - I see this a lot - Ridiculous!
Garth Robinson 5 years ago
lets see, that's a total of 46 years experience, hmm I guess that qualifies me for "entry level" ???
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Richard Brown 5 years ago
HR were told to employ 3 people with 4 years experience and HR went "Why not one person with all the experience!" while thinking of all the money they would save
Audrey Brown 5 years ago
I think you all need to stop blaming HR people for these kind of job advertisements. The HR person is only the conduit to publish the Job advertisement. More often than not, the job description (including leave, pay, etc] is created by the manager which the advertised role is going to report to. So, if it is technical job, please blame the TECHNICAL MANAGER, not the HR person. I know as i have worked in both HR and IT managerial roles.
Yvette Desmarais 5 years ago
Usually these specs are written by some hiring manager who has zero understanding of the technologies involved. HR just uses what they are told and wonders why they can't find a fit.
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Marky Mark 5 years ago
Hello Everybody, I'm Doctor Nick Riviera, and I will be be a medical writer.
Helouise Doofenschmirtz 5 years ago
Yeah uhhhhh if I have my MD I ain't gonna be a medical writer. I'm going to be a doctor.
K.Kobayashi 5 years ago
Not necessarily. You get an MD at the end of medical school, but after that, you still have to go through 4-6 years of residency before you are licensed as a doctor. Not every MD makes it through residency.
Load More Replies... Leo Domitrix 5 years ago
That's actually called "Project management", btw, if you have all the reqs they listed, and preferred experience... YOU DO NOT NEED THIS JOB. OMG. Who writes this stuff?!
K.Kobayashi 5 years ago
Obviously the requirements are meant to be one of these degrees, not all 3. But otherwise, medical writer isn't a bad choice for someone who made it through medical school or pharmacy school but decided not to continue with residency. Starting salary for a medical writer is around $70,000 which is more than I made as an entry level Ph.D scientist.
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OneEyePuppy 4 years ago
Not an error. Translation: Need experienced Medical Writer willing to work for Entry Level pay.
ebony1k124 touch 5 years ago
Entry level but post-doctoral research? I would be weary of the person that accepts that position unless they are retired and bored out of their skull.
K.Kobayashi 5 years ago
This one seems reasonable. If you've graduated med school, graduate school or pharmacy school, that doesn't mean you have any experience as a medical writer. So you would get hired as an entry level medical writer.
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Jordan MacFarlane 5 years ago
process engineering is field work in a refinery, operating equipment, running process equipment. entry level is probably a reflection of it being a unionized spot, so senior positions are filled according to seniority, experience, competency etc. But een entry level positions pay well probably $25-$30/hr
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Esca Sav 5 years ago
I met recruiters at a conference from Lockhead Martin. A lot of them were very stone faced when speaking to which I presume was to weasel out the weak from the sea of people trying to get an interview, but personally I think it kind of backfired. Just made me not want to apply to a job there, like they had no respect for anyone. I saw them again at another conference and that group of recruiters were definitely nicer and more open to undergraduate students looking for work, but I still can't forget my first experience with them... It really is a competitive employer, I can tell you that
Sarah 5 years ago
An engineer friend of mine talked to their recruiters and they offered him two different positions, which really ticked off the managers at both facilities because Lockheed isn't supposed to be competing with Lockheed. Then they goofed up the rest of the process so much that the managers themselves had to get involved and basically do the recruiters' job for them. He chose one of the positions and loved everybody he got to work with there, even though it was a demanding workplace. So some of the stupidity in this post and your experience may not be Lockheed's fault.
Load More Replies... Kerri Russ 5 years ago
Not a surprise from Lockheed Martin. I think people who qualify for this would fall all over themselves to get in the door.
Mishte Tine 5 years ago (edited)
And that is the logo they use? Logos cost money. It’s a tell.
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Amanda Black 5 years ago
Not uncommon at all...that's why it's so hard to pay back student loans.
Stick Man 5 years ago
Wouldn't be so hard if students dont just straight to Uni. So many miss the cheap stuff in community college. Or high school buy ins. My HS and CC worked together that for less than 75 bucks you could receive CC credit if the curriculum matched. Got three CC classes done my senior year.
Load More Replies... earringnut 5 years ago
The salary is only $27,000? Oh wait, it's $27,100! That makes all the difference in the world.
Mark Kelly 5 years ago
pfft $27 grand a year? I make more than that watering plants and weeding.
Tardis42 5 years ago
I'd want more information about where the job is (in some cities, this isn't a bad salary for someone just out of undergrad), if there are commissions or bonuses attached, what the benefits are (at my job, we're not paid much, but when I kick in 5% to my retirement, the employer kicks in 15%), and what the promotion schedules are. Not great, but maybe not as bad as it looks.
Jane Dorothy Warner 5 years ago
I gave up on all this rubbish many years ago and went self-employed. I was neither successful nor unsuccessful, just plodding along, raising a family and never - I repeat NEVER - in debt. It's not the income that kills you, it's not learning how to budget around that income.
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Falcon 5 years ago
If their job listing is already a mess, then think of what the actual job environment will be. My suggestion, keep far away from places like these.
Carrie de Luka 5 years ago
I completely agree. Line managers not actively involved in the recruitment process are probably going to make lazy bosses.
Load More Replies... Foxxy (The Original) 5 years ago
One of the biggest issues I find is that a lot of jobs want “experience necessary” which is understandable but how are you going to get the experience if no one will hire you without having it. Especially when they advertise for a junior, like come on.
Zophra 5 years ago
My son is having this problem just graduating with an Industrial Engineering degree. The vast majority of job listing are asking for very specific experience/qualifications.
Load More Replies... Rissie 5 years ago (edited)
I like how honest these companies are about what they stand for. Greed, cluelessness, disorganization, stupidity.
Martha Meyer 5 years ago
In my opinion 10+ years of experience in ANYTHING is a ridiculous demand. If you've done something for 3 to 5 years you will have become very proficient at it. Not much you can learn after that.
Leo Domitrix 5 years ago
Ummm... I'll speak up here in defense of the sciences. If medical personnel don't keep learning after 3-5 years, someone dies. Sooo.... Yeah. You can learn. And keep learning. Always. Peace.
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Hiker Chick 5 years ago
HR rejected one of my applications for a job in my field for which I have a specialized degree because they didn't know the terminology in that profession. The next application I sent in (same organization, same HR department) I dumbed down my wording the application and got the job at twice the salary of the first job. Worked out in the end, but so frustrating to not even get an interview when I was well qualified, just because HR was making the decisions.
Bob Belcher 5 years ago
Truth, when I started grad school several years ago I was going for an MFS (master's in financial science). I had several recruiters at hiring events tell me to drop that. No one knows what an MFS is. After applying for over 50 jobs and not getting a single call back I switched to an MBA even though it ment I would lose a whole semester. Sure enough, the next job I applied for called me back.
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Markin89 5 years ago
But applying for a position as a police officer and carrying a gun doesn't need any experience at all.... I just don't get most things about the US' logic.
Hans 5 years ago
Particularly the US have a too great focus on using resumes. With the curriculum vitae typical in Europe, this does not happen to quickly. Moreover, what we see here is when advertisments are created by HR rather than being supervised by HR. Instead of 3, 5, 7, 10 years of experiences in they could rather write basic, medium, advanced, expert knoweldge of...
chi-wei shen 5 years ago (edited)
Many of these entries seem to be serious and they are outright appaling.
Alexis Maven 5 years ago
It's not just tech and white collared companies either. 0-5f0dad8bd9399.jpg 
Falcon 5 years ago
If their job listing is already a mess, then think of what the actual job environment will be. My suggestion, keep far away from places like these.
Carrie de Luka 5 years ago
I completely agree. Line managers not actively involved in the recruitment process are probably going to make lazy bosses.
Load More Replies... Foxxy (The Original) 5 years ago
One of the biggest issues I find is that a lot of jobs want “experience necessary” which is understandable but how are you going to get the experience if no one will hire you without having it. Especially when they advertise for a junior, like come on.
Zophra 5 years ago
My son is having this problem just graduating with an Industrial Engineering degree. The vast majority of job listing are asking for very specific experience/qualifications.
Load More Replies... Rissie 5 years ago (edited)
I like how honest these companies are about what they stand for. Greed, cluelessness, disorganization, stupidity.
Martha Meyer 5 years ago
In my opinion 10+ years of experience in ANYTHING is a ridiculous demand. If you've done something for 3 to 5 years you will have become very proficient at it. Not much you can learn after that.
Leo Domitrix 5 years ago
Ummm... I'll speak up here in defense of the sciences. If medical personnel don't keep learning after 3-5 years, someone dies. Sooo.... Yeah. You can learn. And keep learning. Always. Peace.
Load More Replies... Hiker Chick 5 years ago
HR rejected one of my applications for a job in my field for which I have a specialized degree because they didn't know the terminology in that profession. The next application I sent in (same organization, same HR department) I dumbed down my wording the application and got the job at twice the salary of the first job. Worked out in the end, but so frustrating to not even get an interview when I was well qualified, just because HR was making the decisions.
Bob Belcher 5 years ago
Truth, when I started grad school several years ago I was going for an MFS (master's in financial science). I had several recruiters at hiring events tell me to drop that. No one knows what an MFS is. After applying for over 50 jobs and not getting a single call back I switched to an MBA even though it ment I would lose a whole semester. Sure enough, the next job I applied for called me back.
Load More Replies... Markin89 5 years ago
But applying for a position as a police officer and carrying a gun doesn't need any experience at all.... I just don't get most things about the US' logic.
Hans 5 years ago
Particularly the US have a too great focus on using resumes. With the curriculum vitae typical in Europe, this does not happen to quickly. Moreover, what we see here is when advertisments are created by HR rather than being supervised by HR. Instead of 3, 5, 7, 10 years of experiences in they could rather write basic, medium, advanced, expert knoweldge of...
chi-wei shen 5 years ago (edited)
Many of these entries seem to be serious and they are outright appaling.
Alexis Maven 5 years ago
It's not just tech and white collared companies either. 0-5f0dad8bd9399.jpg
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