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True crime entails much more than what’s shown on the TV screen. Understandably, a lot about it gets left behind the scenes, which only more attentive and fascinated people may question and dig deeper into. Such persons tend to come together and discuss their findings and opinions, like those who share similar interests usually do.
This time, our Bored Panda team found them gathered under this popular thread, discussing their controversial takes on true crime cases. If you’re curious, these hot takes can be found below, just a scroll away.
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#1
True crime fans aren’t as smart and intuitive as they think they are and have a totally unearned sense of arrogance from just being documentary watchers alone.
I work in documentary and have done true crime specifically. A lot of information is held back by LE and even gentle editing is by nature manipulative.
True crime fans are like, “You can tell just by looking at him in that photograph something is wrong with him.”
No, we’ve set you up to think that. By merely implying someone is tied to a crime in any way, your brain colors in the lines and tells you their eyes look empty. Doesn’t help that we put spooky music over their picture while we slowly zoom in on the image.
Conversely, take the same photo of a person but put different music over it and imply he’s a homicide victim, and the same true crime fan will be like, “Aw he looked so sweet 🥺”
And, look. I say this as a true crime fan.
But no one should be speaking so authoritatively , so gatekeeper-y, on anything just because of some documentary watching. Even the most well meaning and neutral documentary is biased.
Earonn - 2 months ago
THIS! The amount of people (here on BP, too!) who claim that "the eyes are the windows to the soul" and all that shyte is frightening. It means you can present any not conventionally attractive person with a squint to them and they'd be willing to condemn or even l***h them.
Child of the Stars 2 months ago
How often do friends and neighbors of serial k.illers or who k.ill their whole family or whatever say how shocked they were? How often do they talk about how the k.iller was normal and nice and kind and babysat their kids or whatever? It happens ALL THE TIME.
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Lost Panda 2 months ago
This one. TrueCrime is nothing more than documentaries, so watch and learn some history. Don't let it get to your head.
Beak Hookage 2 months ago
The only thing I can confidently say from all the true crime I've watched is that nine times out of ten, the boyfriend or husband did it.
Joanne Mendonza-Earle 2 months ago
Honestly whenever they start talking about the first suspect, we know it won't be them b/c it's too early in the show and there's always a twist.
Lynchamigsakta 2 months ago
I learned this lessons brutally from the paradise lost trilogy, I do however think the documentary makers were as convinced as they made us that the first crazy hillbilly parent that was basically pointed out as guilty really was.
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#2
Casey Anthony is guilty.
Linda Roy 2 months ago
Every member of that jury should never gets a good night's sleep again.
T'Mar of Vulcan 2 months ago
Sickening that she tried to blame her father for m0lesting her when he and her mother had done their best for their granddaughter. She's a heartless b!tch who deserves to go to the Bad Place.
TCW Sam Vimes 2 months ago
The US justice system is as bent as the rest of their society. If you're white and have money, the chances of getting less or no sentence at all are so much better...it's sickening. They actually make money incarceration poor black people, there is no real effort at resocializing inmates, quite the contrary. How ppl stand to live in that hypocrite cesspool of a so-called society is beyond me
Bur* 2 months ago
Offering up plea deals to criminals so they don't actually have to do their jobs. Putting poor people in jail because they can't hold out for the prosecutor to offer a good deal, letting the people who have attorneys to fight charges off with a slap on the wrist, because it's obviously too much actually to do the job they signed on for. God bless the USA 💀
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Rick H 2 months ago
Blame the idiot prosecution. Charged 1st degree all in hopes of getting a more prosecution-favorabke jury, when they didn't have the evidence necessary to prove it, then hoped the jury would do their jobs for them and find guilty on lesser included offenses. They should have prosecuted the case they had
Tyranamar Seuss 2 months ago
She is a woman whose little girl died. While the child went missing there were tons of photos of this woman partying hard. Which she said she was doing as "undercover work" to try to find her daughter. I think cadaver dogs also found scent in her trunk or something. She was caught multiple times in various lies. And then blamed everything on her father, who she claimed molested her. At least that's what I remember of the story. She was a very clear pathological liar.
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Verfin22 2 months ago
I kinda think the dad knew about it, or saw it happening, and helped her clean up.????
Megalodon Meg 1 month ago
There is ZERO evidence of that. That man was devastated to lose that little girl.
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A polygraph is barely more reliable than flipping a coin and while some presenters are getting better at pointing out that they are not acceptable as evidence in a courtroom, they are still talked about too much which I feel gives them a false sense of reliability.
Earonn - 2 months ago
They don't detect lies. They detect emotions and then it's decided that this emotion must be due to a lie. Barbaric and Middle Age (and that's an insult to the Middle Ages)
Antoinette the Red 2 months ago
Saw a YouTube about deceiving the lie detector. Squeezing the kegels before you answer seems to make the machine go wonky.
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Rika 2 months ago
I always saw polygraphs as a variety show game. There are so many factors that can affect the results like medications, physical/mental health conditions, the general emotional state of the person... It's too dangerous to judge someone simply because they panicked when they were asked if they did it.
Robert Trebor 2 months ago
In Texas, if you're on parole, you often have to take polygraphs. These cost about $300. If you were judged to have failed one, they know that they can't use it to put you back in prison, but that can require you to keep taking polygraphs, and spending $300 each time, until you don't have the money to pay your parole fees. Parole fees. They can put you in jail. I'm sure this is true in many places where polygraphs are required.
Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
That's why they're scary, they're treated as something factual, while a tarot reading would give you as accurate results
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Monsen 2 months ago
They are quite reliable if used on a "normal" person with the right context. But many criminals have sociopathic or psychopathic tendencies and yeah... you better flip a coin then
tameson 1 month ago
Not at all true. They are so unreliable they should never be used.
Load More Replies... KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
Polygraphs are not permitted in court as evidence but can give an indication of what stressors you have so cops can probe that a bit more. That said, they can be manipulated easily by making yourself stress when they are asking baseline questions like your name, etc.
Auntriarch 2 months ago
I remember an episode of Barney Miller where someone brought a machine into the station, and Detective Dietrich managed to convince the operator that he was an alien.
tameson 1 month ago
A study just published in 2024 looked at cases in which people took a polygraph and were found guilty but were later found to be innocent through DNA testing. They determined that polygraphs give unreliable results in 50-64 percent of cases, worse than a coin toss. DO NOT EVER agree to take a polygraph. The title of the study is "How reliable are polygraph examinations in criminal investigations? An empirical assessment."
#4
Unpopular opinion? Gipsy Rose is not the golden child she's been elevated to be. She's a liar and manipulator and was basically in on the scam the whole time. Yes, she's a product of her environment but the whole 'blame Nick' thing she's doing is lies.
Lynchamigsakta 2 months ago
I do think she's a manipulator and learned early from the best. Nick though.. is a f****n psycho and absolutely belongs in prison
Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
Blame the mom. Really. If GR had been silent and obedient, she'd be dead. Both should have been charged with the overblown self defense
#5
I still believe Elisa Lam was having some kind of psychotic break and got into that water tank herself and drowned.
Potterhead934 2 months ago
That is what happened to her. She had bipolar and stopped taking her meds. It's on the Netflix documentary
Lynchamigsakta 2 months ago
She did, who says anything else? Except for nutter butters that want to find excitement in what's just a tragic story
Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
You won't know 100% there's no way to know for sure but this, all things point to this
#6
A lot of the mysterious disappearances aren’t mysterious. When people disappear in the wilderness, it isn’t a mystery. They’re often victims of unfortunate hiking accidents. Bodies aren’t easy to find so many of these people will never be found.
Rika 2 months ago
Too many people also seem to forget wild animals exist. They die too but how often do you go for a walk in the woods and you stumble upon a dead deer or another large animal ? It's extremely rare because in the wilderness, a corpse is just food.
Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
Seeing a whole dead rock pigeon (or something) being in a wrong place just bothered me. I tried to get the local parks and rec to do something. No luck. The corpse just got picked off while looking like a grilled chicken.
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Miss Ann Thrope 2 months ago
Remember Julian Sands? It's only took a few months to find him. By then, there was so little left, they couldn't figure a cause of death. Ashes to ashes is real.
SkyBlueandBlack 2 months ago
Cause is kinda obvious there, though. The mountains here are very rugged, it was icy, he fell. There are usually a few each year there.
Load More Replies... Lousha 2 months ago
These can still be a "mystery" in the sense that we don't KNOW what happened to someone if they are never found. Yes, we can draw reasonable conclusions, and we can be quite sure that we are right - e.g. a person disappearing in the wilderness is likely to have suffered an accident, have been eaten by wildlife, or have succumbed to exposure. But as long as there's no body, there's always a chance that we're wrong, so there's still a "mystery". I do agree though that there's no need to make up silly theories about serial kíllers and the like when it's basically sure the disappearance was the result of something very "natural".
Huddo's sister 2 months ago (edited)
Same with those lost at sea. The prime minister of Australia that went missing, Harold Holt has a lot of conspiracy theories about him, because his body was never found. It's not always predictable where they end up and sea creatures also get hungry.
#7
Social media groups “discussing” active investigations do more harm than good.
#8
Madeline McCann's parents would have gone to jail if they weren't rich and white.
Rika 2 months ago
Definitely. It doesn't matter if you're at a restaurant a few feet away and regularly checking on your kid, they're way too young to be left alone for any period of time.
Lousha 2 months ago
They were much father away than a few feet. It was 55 meters. The plot our house is on is about that long, and sometimes when I'm gardening, I just look at that distance, and remember this little girl. I couldn't even imagine leaving 2 and 3 year old kids in my care alone this far away from myself. That entire group of adults should've been investigated by child protective services, since they all did the same. They could've just put all the kids into one room, and paid a pittance for ONE babysitter to sit there reading a book while the kids slept. For the price of one cocktail they probably consumed they could've paid for that, and then the kids would've been safe, while the parents could've had their fun in peace, relaxing fully.
Load More Replies... T'Mar of Vulcan 2 months ago
And how in some interviews they were grinning the whole time. Who grins when their child is missing?
Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
You're ordered to smile and you go 😬. Interview look is not a sign of guilt or lack of guilt either
Load More Replies... Barbara Hill 2 months ago
Exactly, who goes off and leaves small children alone in a hotel room, while you go to dinner. and wasn't there a sister there too? I'm taking my kids with me wherever I go while on vacation. and at home. Unless with a trusted adult.
Mophead 2 months ago
I always think it's strange none of the other people in that party have spokenor at least shown support to the McCanns - what are they hiding?
KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
@HelyerT - it's very much true that they are not in jail because they are rich and white, and that Maddie got a fuckton of front page because cute little blonde girl with an eye [thing]. There are literally hundreds of kids that go missing monthly - not a single one of them is getting millions of taxpayers money spent on trying to find them. How many missing black kids you see on front pages?
ZombieMommy 1 month ago
This one k****d me. I could not imagine leaving all of those small children alone in a foreign country.
#9
Eileen Wuormos didn’t deserve [it], she should’ve been sent to a mental institution for the rest of her days.
MoonlitStar:
The main thing I didn't get about her case is that she was so obviously mentally ill to the point of insanity- even a person without any professinal knowledge of mental health could blatantly see that- it wasn't something that was up for discussion to my mind so why wasn't she treated as such. The entire case was sensationalised beyond belief by the media it was akin to death according to the media circus and public opinion in the US. It's still sensationalised to this day over 20 years since.
I agree she should have been placed in a secure mental health facility for life rather than what happened to her.
Earonn - 2 months ago
If a poor / normal person does something crazy, a lot of people are happy to demand the death penalty. If a rich person does it (like creating of AI of themselves as king, s******g on their people, or just think of all the British "eccentrics" that happened to be rich) it's A-OK, or at least nobody does something about it.
Deeelite 2 months ago
Finally someone agrees with me about Eileen - ffs she was repeatly ra*ed
Audrey 1 month ago
The prosecutor was a huge misogynist and a conservative who just had it in for her and wanted to boost his public image among conservatives. There are a lot of people who truly don’t believe that a s*x worker can be r***d.
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Kate Johnson 2 months ago
Because most juries just want to make sure, crazy or not, that murders aren't allowed to walk free in society. If they use mental illness, then she could be let out some day.
Beak Hookage 2 months ago (edited)
Actually, on the very rare occasion that someone is found not guilty by reason of insanity, they don't "just let them go" (a popular misconception). If their mental illness is THAT severe then, like Ed Gein, they will likely spend the rest of their life hospitalised.
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Sarah Pryde 2 months ago
life dealt her a s**t hand, i hope she has found some peace, as well as the victims families
KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
I bet if she looked more Charlize Theron, she would have been sent to hospital.
Grace Knowlton 2 months ago
She wasn't born a monster, she became one of the monsters of her past and the demons in her mind that she couldn't escape from. Even Ed Gein was treated with more kindness before he died in an institution.
Audrey 1 month ago
I haven’t finished the documentary yet, because it’s not the most riveting. But I’ve never viewed her as seriously mentally ill, and I don’t view her as a serial killer. I also don’t feel sorry for any of those men she k****d, and I don’t think she deserved to be prosecuted as heavily as she was.
#10
Cops/detectives/police forces are often corrupt and [bad] at their jobs and mess up a lot of investigations through incompetence.
Robert Trebor 2 months ago
District Attorneys are notorious for refusing to admit their office ever screwed up even when absolute innocence is later proven. Even if is a case from several incumbent DAs before
Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
Some places proving innocence is not enough to overturn a sentence
Load More Replies... Miss Ann Thrope 2 months ago
Look at how many people's cases have been overturned when competent attorneys get involved.
Anne Edwards 2 months ago
But look at how many are overturned on technicality issues, guilty as sin but free because they said quiet instead of silent.
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Michael Largey 2 months ago
And the district attorney wants to get re-elected.
Load More Replies... KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
Watch the Confessions Killer documentary on just how badly Texas and their rangers f****d up just pinning every open case on a clearly insane and easily manipulated person who started with 1 m****r, then within a few days, his tally was over 300, even when it was proven he was not even in the state at the time.
#11
Capital punishment should be abolished. Contrary to popular belief, it isn’t a deterrent to crime, and it costs more than it does to keep an inmate incarcerated for their entire life.
theloons:
Agree. It’s barbaric and evil. Whether it’s a deterrent or not doesn’t matter to me. I agree that it isn’t, but even if it were it wouldn’t change my stance on it.
Sarah Kathrin Matsoukis 2 months ago
Just the fact that there's always a small chance someone innocent is sentenced should be reason enough to end the death penalty
John Dilligaf 2 months ago
there is not "a small chance" , It is an almost 100% certainty that an innocent person has been sentenced to death and executed,
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Rika 2 months ago
It's not only about the costs, it's about the living conditions. The guy who organized the biggest t*rrorist attack in France is jailed for life... in a cell that's bigger than my apartment. He has gym equipment and gaming consoles and he never has to worry about having food on his plate or sleeping in a bed. It's disgusting to see mass m*rderers like that live in luxury while people who never k*lled or harmed anyone are sleeping on the streets and can't afford to even eat once a day.
Jihana 2 months ago
If you argree with the death penalty you ar fundamentally agree that k*****g is ok, as long as it's someone you deem unworthy of living. But guess what, that is exactly what murderers think. And just locking someone up and throwing away the key produces more aggressive and more unhinged prisoners. You can't treat someone like an animal and expect them to behave like a human.
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TCW Sam Vimes 2 months ago
Some ppl definitely deserve a bullet to the head, but as a judicial system it's not an efficient deterrent and a democratic state should not execute ppl. I'd flay child abusers and roll them in salt, yet that's not justice but vengance
T'Mar of Vulcan 2 months ago
I agree, if only because of the chance that an innocent person will be executed. A lot of South Africans whine about bringing back the death penalty, as if that will miraculously make our crime rate drop. It won't. And I will not be party to a system that *could* be used to get rid of political opponents permanently.
Michael Largey 2 months ago
Discouraging m****r by k*****g someone is like discouraging robbery by holding up a bank.
Earonn - 2 months ago
And what "punishment" is death anyway? A second and everything is over. Decent people suffer much worse when they just get old or ill. I'm not into revenge, at least in my wiser moments, but if you want to do that, make them constantly depressed. Properly depressed, not "Oh, I have SAD". The people who had serious depressions know what I mean. That constant feeling of despair IS t*****e.
Erin Van Atten 2 months ago
As someone who has been "properly depressed" and has SAD, you're talking out of your a*s. SAD made me p**s in a bucket because going to the toilet was too big a task. My 'normal' depression just made me want to die, but I could function somewhat.
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Max Fox 2 months ago (edited)
Yes, and it doesn't even matter if there is 0 chance that an innocent person would be put to death. The only justification for k*****g somebody is to protect other people, which is not the case if a person is incarcerated. Society cannot provide life to a person, and should not be allowed to take life away from a person. It doesn't matter whether the person deserves to die or not. We cannot give life to people who deserve life either. However, society can decide whether a person deserves to be part of society or not, so incarceration is OK IMO.
Kate Johnson 2 months ago
I have no problem with death being the appropriate punishment for some crimes. My problem is it is far too expensive to implement and sometimes you can't know for sure they are guilty. Life in prison without parole is cheaper and you can let them out if you later find out they are not guilty.
#12
The jury in the Casey Anthony case failed Kaylee Anthony. In my opinion, I believe they did in fact have enough evidence. That little girl never got justice.
Tyranamar Seuss 2 months ago
Jon Benet is truely a mystery. Casey Anthony is not.
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Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
Would justice be jailing the mother or would better justice be getting the woman who gave birth to her to some place that can help with psychosis and s**t.
#13
There should have been more repercussions for the social workers who failed Gabriel Fernandez.
I try not to think about the fact that his two get to wake up every morning and see sunlight. Injustice.
Munchkinpea:
I couldn't agree more. I'm fairly desensitised to true crime stuff, but I found the Netflix documentary about Gabriel devastating. I had to keep taking breaks as I was crying so hard.
I feel sorry for his teacher who seems to have tried repeatedly to get him help, but not received any support.
He should have remained with his great-uncles who loved and cared for him, like parents are supposed to do.
Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
Not knowing any of this particular case, our area has a terminal lack of child protective services people. You can't expect people to see and assess cases when they don't have enough people and the ones there get blamed for the fact they can't do enough with so few people and so little resources
SkyBlueandBlack 2 months ago
It was pretty bad. But as someone who does live in the region, you're right. San Bernardino County is the largest county in the US. It's 20,000 square miles, and it only recently came out of bankruptcy. So yeah, it wasn't the caseworker's fault. It's an absolutely impossible job around here. It's not so much that cases slip through the cracks, it's more that the entire floor is missing.
Load More Replies... Grace Knowlton 2 months ago
I definitely think the social workers are partly responsible, they took the moms word and never bothered to actually SEE HIM!! YOUR ONLY JOB IS PROTECTING CHILDREN!! IT CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES NOT A*****E PARENT PROTECTION SERVICES
Rianna Lewis 1 month ago
I totally agree!!!!! It’s their job to report ANY type of abnormality or signs of a***e, they need to be trained to look beyond their “happy smiles” and physically look for the communication, the way the child specifically acts around their parents (as children also get funny and awkward seeing their parents playing nice and acting “normal”) the state of their house, the structure of the home they live in.. ALL the signs are there some might be clearer but if you’re in that field and children’s lives are in danger and in your hands, you need to take that job EXTREMELY seriously..
#14
Not unpopular bur black and brown victims of homicide especially women are left unsolved because the police and public don’t care.
Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
A brown girl gets hate crime punched on the subway, the police barely show up, someone white gets punched, it's a manhunt. Not saying our former minister shouldn't have a right to walk in a park get to the trains, but how is anything else dealt with???
seanpar0820 1 month ago
But if a brown girl punches a white girl its not considered a hate crime. How about we call people "people" and not brown, black, white etc... Sound good? Everyone has it hard. Get over it
Load More Replies... David 2 months ago
Its more becuase the perpetrators are usually of the same race as the victim (most whites are offed by whites, most blacks are offed by other blacks, etc), so if it is a minority person in an affluent area, police take it seriously, when its in poor higher crime area, its easier to write it off as d***s or gangs, if the early investigation doesnt go well. BTW its the same with poor rural white, a homocide in a trailer park gets the same apathy and if they dont have a lead in a few days, easier to back burner it and write it off as m**h or biker gang. Its about poor people, not race
Miss Ann Thrope 2 months ago
40% of all murders go unsolved. Would not be surprised if were higher for women of color. Remember the Grim Sleeper? Was right under the LAPD's nose for years.
Rianna Lewis 1 month ago
I’m not sure if it’s the rest of the world but here in Australia there’s not a lot of black people in the workforce, (our government is to blame) slowly it’s amazing and beautiful to see they’re slowly getting their voices heard and more and more opportunities are opening up for them, I feel however if more black people were in the police force and are lawyers and just had more involvement in those areas it will be so much fairer, and they’re able to help keep their people safe as it’ll open a lot of doors in so many departments caused by this very issue
Anne Edwards 2 months ago
But if the police show up to investigate, those same black and brown family members of those poor victims demand that the police get off their property and won't provide information.
hannahbahngswife 2 months ago (edited)
Anne, you are a fellow woman. You should know better. I've been told to go wash myself because of my skin colour, but I do not celebrate when a white person's case is unsolved. Did you expect upvotes and people replying "F**k yeah, I agree too!"?
iseefractals 2 months ago
55-60% of the 15,000-25,000 murders and 80% of the 250,000-300,000 incidents of non-fatal firearm violence carried out each and every year....are perpetrated by "black and brown" people. Which isn't new, this has been the standard going back decades, and the response to that by the community those murders take place in is "no one saw nothing" along with the growing demand to "defund the police" Solving murders often relies on witnesses coming forward, co-operation from family and friends. If that victim was involved in some type of crime, or the witnesses, or the family.....they aren't inclined to talk. So what exactly do you expect the outcome to be?
#15
Brock Turner should have gotten years in prison. Disgusting.
Upstaged75 2 months ago
The judge who sentenced him was removed from his position. Absolutely disgusting.
Child of the Stars 2 months ago
I remember the outrage when he was let off. It was only a year or so before metoo exploded, and I think that that gross miscarriage of justice was a big part of it.
Barbara Hill 2 months ago
Scum bag judge was more worried about Brock Turner's life than the young lady.
KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
"My son should not be penalised for 20 seconds of action"... his father should be in jail too.
#16
Lacey Fletcher was not on the couch for 12 years.
Humanehuman1:
Right?? Like there has to be more to this! Also, I feel like this case is almost downplayed (for lack of a better word). She literally LIVED for a significant period of time with MAGGOTS eating her flesh. I feel nauseous even writing that out.
Sethsears:
I have some gross personal insight into this.
My 90+ year old grandmother developed lymphoma directly on the top of her head. She saw a doctor and received treatment for it, but as she was getting treated, it began to rot. She couldn't simply have it removed in surgery due to its size and her age. She (and everyone around her) had to endure the tumor "dropping off" of her. (At least, that's how I remember it going, I was a kid at the time).
The smell was unbelievable. I can't even tell you. The smell of flesh rotting off a living person is so strong that when we took her to the library to pick up a book, we had to roll all the windows in the car down and stick our heads out each respective window to keep from gagging. That was from a golf ball sized tumor! I can't even imagine the smell around Lacey's couch. Even if you accept her parents were mentally ill/in denial/noseblind, I have no idea how the smell wouldn't have clung to them.
iseefractals 2 months ago
My dad was paralyzed during vietnam. One of the big concerns for people in chairs, are pressure sores, sitting all day, poor circulation, loss of muscle and fat on lower half. The VA in Houston, is...f*****g criminally incompetent. They botched his rotator cuff surgery, his physical therapist made it even worse, and their solution was to just increase his oxy/vicodin/darvon/valium cocktail which caused him to develop pleurisy ....but after his surgery he was kept up in his chair for 10 to 12 hours at a stretch, moving around "helps with healing" He ended up with a pressure sore on his tailbone....looked like a little bruise the size of pencil eraser. All he could do was stay off of it, so confined to bed. Nothing he hadn't endured before. Well, i woke up one morning....and the entire apartment reeked of death. Bloated whale in the summer sun. Turns out that little bruise had opened up...to reveal a necrotic cavity the size of a grapefruit. Could smell it 40 ft outside the apartment.
iseefractals 2 months ago
Now on that basis, when you hear about people dying alone and going undiscovered for years, i don't understand how that happens. How everyone in the vicinity just glosses over that kind of stank.....BUT.....having experienced that kind of smell, in a highly populated suburban apartment complex....no one came to investigate, no one commented, no one called the cops or even notified the management office. Despite the fact that i, 20 years old at the time had just moved there two months before, and no one had seen my father in several weeks.
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Lee451 Henderson 2 months ago
I worked at a nursing home. The smell of rotting decubiti would stink up the entire wing.
#17
Scott Peterson is guilty.
ComteStGermain:
I agree, although I think that in his case circumstancial evidence alone works for me. The timeline alone and the fact that he went "fishing" on Christmas Eve was enough for me.
nicholas nolan 2 months ago
"the fact that he went "fishing" on Christmas Eve was enough for me." The Comte hasn't met anyone from Wisconsin, I take it.
#18
A lot of cases that didn’t get solved was due to inexperienced investigators (JonBenet), cops on the take (Keddie Cabin), or lazy police work (Kristin Smart).
#19
Lots of corruption and oppression in law enforcement and the courts. There are far more innocent people than we realize who are incarcerated.
Child of the Stars 2 months ago
Because the legal system isn't about justice, despite what we're told by law enforcement and the courts and politicians. Even without the corruption, it's about order and keeping the peace. It's never about justice and finding the truth.
FlamingZombies 2 months ago
And profit. Contracts with for-profit prison companies specify that they have to have a minimum occupancy rate otherwise the government entity that contracted with them has to pay a massive penalty.
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Not every [victim] was the bestest best friend, your best friend, a really great person a better person than everyone else, etc.
Linda Roy 2 months ago
Every victim in every documentary lights up a room & would give you the shirt off their back.
Northlander72 2 months ago (edited)
And every mur'derer was a quiet fellow who usually kept to themselves.
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Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
If I'm ever the victim, remember to tell them I was a persnickety aßhole who wouldn't shut up
Nathan Wiebe 2 months ago
That comes across in your comments, don’t worry
Load More Replies... iseefractals 2 months ago
Michel Brown. His friend painted him as a gentle giant, never hurt no body never used his size to intimidate "hands up don't shoot" Except hours before he was k****d they were caught robbing a convenience store where brown did just that....which is why when a cop, sitting in his squad car called him over, he thought that was the reason, which led to him trying to steal the cops gun, which resulted in him getting shot through the hand (forensics showed powder burns on his hand) after which brown retreated, then made to charge the officer at which point he was shot and k****d. Forensics back the cops story up, but everyone believed the friend.....well that friend who started the "hands up don't shoot" campaign, was k****d just a few weeks ago! Ruled as self defense because he was in the process of beating the $hit out of a woman.
Emie N. 2 months ago
Still doesn't change the fact that too many cops are willing to k.i.l.l black people who are unarmed and are not even doing anything.
Load More Replies... KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
See UK press for great examples of how the shiny little bestest loving kid died a tragic death at the hands of a gang they were affiliated with.
Anne Edwards 2 months ago
But they always show his Grammar School picture to show what a little sweetie he was.
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I guess my opinion isn’t unpopular within THIS community, but it is to others…
I think it’s okay to be interested in listening to/watching true crime stories. I think there’s a lot we, as humans living in a society, can learn from these stories when we listen to them in a considerate way.
I think it’s okay to make media about cases, as long as it’s done respectfully.
I think some cases have really interesting ethical issues with no black or white answer and that’s okay. It’s important to be aware of these issues and think about them.
Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
The crime reporting and the detective stories have been around forever. Saying people who like crime stories are somehow wicked isn't new either. Let people have fun ffs!
Bur* 2 months ago
People used to gather to watch public beheadings, so yeah true crime maybe isn't all that twisted of an interest 😂
Load More Replies... Undercover 2 months ago
What always makes me cringe, when spouses m****r their SO to be with someone else. Just get a divorce, ffs! 🤦🏻♀️
#22
Andrea Yates should have been in a mental health facility until she is fit for release and while I can’t think of an exact criminal charge for her husband, he deserved to be held accountable.
Rears4Tears:
Andrea is in a mental hospital. Her attorneys successfully appealed her case, and the guilty verdict was overturned. She was found not guilty by reason of insanity. She can undergo a review every year to see if she is competent to leave the facility. But Yates opts each year to waive her right to be reviewed. She has never undergone review, choosing instead to continue treatment. And yes, her husband was horrible and should have been charged.
Melissa Harris 2 months ago
I don't know anout how many kids they had but his second wife divorce him and accused him of being emotionally and mentally a*****e.
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Many parents' lies mean that disappearance of their children will never be solved and they are to blame for this.
Whether it's to protect themselves or others, the lies, hiring of spin doctors and refusal to cooperate with the police means they bear some responsibility for the unsolved crime.
bsa554:
Oh yeah...in a LARGE percentage of "missing child" cases at least one parent knows well what happened to their kid.
Don't know how these people can live with themselves.
Rika 2 months ago
There have been a few noticeable cases like that in France: parents were literally crying for the cameras and begging for their kid to be found. It turned out they had k*lled the kid. While the crime is horrible, I find it scarier to see that people are able to keep up with this kind of lie for weeks of giving tearful interviews.
KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
Can't remember which case it was (UK), but some guy was crying crocodile tears about his stepchild being missing. Meantime, she was in bags in the attic.
#24
True crime adjacent: documentaries are not the word of god. They are fallible, they have an angle, they are meant to entertain, sometimes the producer ends up dating the suspect (I’m looking at you Staircase).
Kurt Cobain is a great example of this. There’s one documentary that can have you 100% sure Courtney Love is to blame and another can make you feel 100% sure [is not].
KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
I saw Courtney in a new light after she put her career on the line early in the game by firing a warning shot about Weinstein. But because she was grungy and not a pop poster girl, she was ignored.
Hassel Davidhoff 2 months ago (edited)
Jünkie, yes. Talentless? How fücking dare you.
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That Diane Schuler’s loser husband knew she had a drinking problem. But he will never admit it because he let her drive those kids. His insistence that she was not an alcoholic is not to clear her name. It’s to cover his own [bum].
KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
I didn't know my mother was an alcoholic. And neither did her boss despite her water decanter being full of vodka. This only came out when she crashed and burned.
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Melissa Harris 2 months ago
The man is so deep in denial the Egyptian government wants him repatriated.
Remi (He/Him) 2 months ago
Unless you spend all the time apart enough, alcohol smells. Unless he was drinking too
#26
Maura Murray ran into the woods to hide from the cops and got lost. Animals scattered her remains.
Rripurnia:
That has been my take all along but I wonder if the stranger abduction theory holds any water after all - someone volunteering to help her go somewhere else and return to her car later on but things went sideways.
I’m listening to her sister’s new podcast and I’m eager to finally hear her thoughts on the case.
#27
Child Protective Services will never change. The number of children who slip through the cracks is tragic. Government beauracracy is responsible.
#28
Rex Heuermann [is responsible for] a lot more women whose bodies have not been found and whose loved ones may not even realize are missing.
General Anaesthesia 2 months ago
In the OP [is responsible for] = has kіllеd. For dog's sake, if you're going to censor it don't post it, BP.
Hugo 2 months ago
Yes, the censorship is idiotic, but I don't think anyone at BP reads the comments.
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Summer Wells’ parents know what happened to her.
Opening_Raspberry_91:
oh man this case kept me up at night when it first happened.
anon:
I think they sold her to someone.
Grace Knowlton 2 months ago
I don't think they are smart enough to successfully cover it up, either she would have been found or some other clue to her whereabouts would have been found by now.
#30
Kendrick Johnson & Kenneka Jenkins were both freak accidents. Elisa Lam had a psychotic break. It’s not always foul play.
#31
Not every [criminal] is a narcissist, sociopath, or psychopath.
Equivalent_Spite_583:
It irks me to my core that ‘narcissist’ is thrown around so casually. While some people were dealing with one, they ‘pick up’ some of the traits done by said narcissist. That doesn’t make them one themselves, it just means they’ve been picked up learned behavior while enduring abuse. Not every ‘mean’ person is a narcissist, contrary to today’s young tiktokers’ standards.
Lost Panda 2 months ago
I will agree. There is a difference between a narcissist and a person with narcissistic qualities. Most everyone is guilty of some form of narcissism in their life.
Child of the Stars 2 months ago
Yup. There's a reason why minors, adolescents in particular, aren't diagnosed with personality disorders except in extremely specific and rare cases.
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I have come to believe that the Menendez brothers truly were horrifically [mistreated] by their father and that they were unfairly railroaded because of the family’s wealth. The more I learn about them, the worse I feel for those guys….
Roni Stone 2 months ago
No, we don't. We can't never find m****r a justified way of dealing with abusers, but a***e should always be seen as a mitigating fact if someone does.
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Michael Largey 2 months ago (edited)
Is being badly treated by your father justification for k*****g your mother? Maybe there was some justification for that, but we never seem to hear about it.
KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
It's hard to feel sorry for people who k**l their mother in cold blood then go on a massive shopping spree and have a party.
Barbara Hill 2 months ago
Killers who went and spent over half a million dollars after murdering their parents. and in their 20's they could have filed charges against the parents. they want the money and property.
Grace Knowlton 2 months ago
Not to mention that OTHER PEOPLE HAVE COME FORWARD IN RECENT YEARS NOT ONLY ACKNOWLEDGING THE A***E BUT ALSO THAT JOSE MENENDEZ ALSO A****D THEM!!!
#33
Someone knows who the Zodiac is and no one believes them.
sai_gunslinger:
I know someone who thinks it may have been her grandfather. He was stationed in Cali and resembles the sketch. Some believe Zodiac moved to NY which is where we are. He was always doing cryptogram puzzles. He once made a suggestion for material to use to make a Zodiac costume. And some bodies were found in the woods near where he lived in NY.
Does anyone believe her? Not really. I'm not sure she believes herself. Stranger things have happened, but odds are low it's really him.
KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
Someone needs to do a 23andMe... that's what got the green river killer.
#34
Very few cops actually know how to conduct an interview.
#35
I think it’s dumb to base guilty or innocent on body behavior alone. Especially when people react to traumatic events like their love ones going missing differently.
Stephanie Did It 2 months ago
The sentence should have read, "Especially when people react differently to traumatic events like their loved ones going missing." It was simply a badly worded statement.
#36
Sometimes an “unsolved” case is 90% the family being in denial.
beeboopbeepKt:
Diane Schuler comes to mind when mentioning family denial too.
theacondaa:
Kendrick Johnson comes to mind here. Very sad and unfortunate case. It was an accident, imo.
flat_tire_fire:
Yeah Maura Murray definitely just wandered into the winter and died of exposure and never got found. I feel bad for her family but dragging it out seems more traumatic than just accepting it.
#37
I think at least one of Ivan Milat's brothers was involved in some of the backpacker [homicide]. The majority of the family is a half-step away from inbred.
Miss Tinker 2 months ago
He gave family members items belonging to the victims (camping equipment)… some of the items had their names on them. Of course they knew.
Nichole Harris 2 months ago
IDK, I've camping and other stuff with names on it not mine.... Came from the p**n shop
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#38
The [criminals] are more like us than we want to believe.
#39
Scott Peterson is guilty and I can’t believe anyone thinks otherwise.
Maura Murray sadly passed away in the woods and she will hopefully be found one day.
Adnan is guilty.
The West Memphis Three are innocent.
Kendrick Johnson was a tragic accident.
T'Mar of Vulcan 2 months ago
There is hardly any evidence against him though. Some anchors he had in his garage. That's it. I'm not saying he's innocent, I'm saying there is very little evidence.
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#40
Defence attorneys/barristers/solicitors (etc) aren’t immoral monsters. They’re doing the job they’re paid to do and it’s a really important job.
FWIW- NAL but I am a paralegal in criminal defence in the U.K.
A LOT of people don’t realise that defence lawyers (using a catch-all term for brevity) are duty bound to act on their client’s instructions. If the client says they’re not guilty, it doesn’t matter what you personally as their lawyer believe, you represent them as not guilty. If, as their lawyer, you believe that the evidence against them is overwhelming and they stand little chance at trial, you can advise them of that however, you are ultimately bound by your client’s instructions.
You •cannot• represent your client in the event that they plead not guilty but tell you in private that they committed the offence. In the U.K. you have to withdraw from representing them due to “professional embarrassment”. The amount of people/podcasters I see/hear going on about defence lawyers as though they’re the devil incarnate for representing clearly guilty people is infuriating.
Defence lawyers, in the U.K. at least, do not invent theories for why their client is not guilty. They review the evidence with their client, take the client’s instructions, and then highlight any inconsistencies between the client’s story and the evidence and ASK THEM how that could be explained. They don’t fill in the gaps for the client.
Defence lawyers are the only people looking out for clients. Their objective is not to keep guilty people out of prison, their objective is to make sure they receive a fair trial and the justice system follows protocol in the prosecution of the client.
They’re not monsters. Phew, vent over!
#41
Adnan is 100% guilty.
TheMobHasSpoken:
I'm not sure if it's true (partly because I can't remember where I read it), but I read once that he was calling her cell phone constantly in the days leading up to her disappearance and then, once she disappeared, never dialed her number again. That sealed it for me.
#42
I believe that Brittany Murphy and Simon Monjack’s [cases] are TOO coincidental.
Additionally, BMs mom was probably in love with SM.
Content_Pool_1391:
I feel exactly the same way. It just felt like they closed both cases with a nice little bow and brushed it under the rug. It doesn't feel like anyone cares enough to say something isn't right.
Deeelite 2 months ago
I always thought it was suspicious that 2 young healthy people perished from THE SAME THING within 6 months. Seriously- no one else found this odd???
Upstaged75 2 months ago
Lots of people found it strange. There's just no way to prove anything nefarious happened.
Load More Replies... KatSaidWhat 2 months ago
yeah, there was a documentary that had me going how did this happen TWICE in such a short space of time and nobody got prosecuted?
#43
Barron Trump is the one who made the phone call to the Feds about all of the classified documents.
It will be resurrected just for my “I told you so” when it’s revealed.
#44
The Menendez brothers should be released.
The parents were literal monsters.
Nichole Harris 2 months ago
So much a***e and then so many years in such a hostile environment, they probably couldn't transition....poor boys
#45
Not an unpopular opinion but definitely my hill.. PATSY WROTE THE NOTE!
wellgroomedmcpoyle:
Practice notes in the trash, their pen, their legal pad, “movie like” language and unbelievable length…fancy unnecessary words like “attaché”…one of the parents definitely wrote the note and it was more than likely Patsy. Also the fact that she, a woman near obsessed with keeping up appearances, was still dressed in the same outfit she wore to the party the night before…she never went to sleep that night.
T'Mar of Vulcan 2 months ago
If Burke didn't do it, and was asleep like his parents said, then WHY can you hear them talking to him on the 911 call?
Lukas (he/him, it/its) 2 months ago
I read a really good series of Reddit posts made by u/clifftruxton that to me, very clearly puts the evidence on the father. I'll include the links in a reply- They are very interesting reads and very well thought out.
Lukas (he/him, it/its) 2 months ago (edited)
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Load More Replies... Barbara Hill 2 months ago
I think they younger brother did it at 9, he was strong enough to overpower a 6-year-old. and wasn't the older brother off at college ?
#46
Nicole Kessinger is obsessed with Chris Watts/stalked him and Shanann online/is extremely creepy but did not participate or know about the crimes (until later).
Barbara Hill 2 months ago
Can't say what i want to say about him on this site. BP won't let me. But all he had to do was get a divorce and 4 people would be alive.
#47
Asha degree's family is not telling the full truth. i'm not necessarily saying they're responsible for her disappearance, but it seems like they know more than they let on. maybe an argument happened that night that led Asha to become so upset she ran away once everyone went to bed, or she actually had a history of running away (even if it was just down the road to her relative's house) but her family didn't divulge this to LE because they were afraid they would not be taken seriously.
I think the most likely scenario is that her family is aware of something that happened that drove Asha to become distraught enough to decide to run away, but her family doesn't want to disclose it because it makes them look bad or they feel ashamed of it.
Rika 2 months ago
I believe in the theory that she wanted to go on an adventure and unfortunately met the wrong person on the way. As adults, we assume running away means wanting to escape from something bad, but young kids don't think like that: a lot of time, they "run away" because it sounds exciting and they're curious to see what's out there in the world, they don't really want to leave their home and family.
Dee Tag 1 month ago
She wasn't that kind of child. Plus it was dark and rainy. She was most likely lured out by a male relative.
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#49
Elisa Lam stopped taking her meds and had a psychotic break. The Netflix doc is absolutely disgusting for how they twisted her case. And I feel so bad for that metal band guy who was caught up in all that. Let her rest and let her family grieve.
#50
The True Crime community is one of the worst online communities in terms of actual effects they have on the people they center on.
I’ve been in a lot of different community spaces. Went through the one direction craze. Kpop Stan’s. The whole lot. Still have never been a part of another community that houses individuals so willing to be as obtrusive and annoying as possible about their theories and beliefs.
#52
Steven Avery is guilty.
Yes, the police and the prosecutor involved did some awful things. I think he deserves a new trial. But i still think he’s guilty.
#53
I believe the foster parents were involved in the disappearance of William Tyrrell. I remember watching a documentary on the case and the producers of the documentary were so dismissive of their possible involvement and I remember saying to myself: “Um, why? This case feels like it has way more to it.”
Huddo's sister 2 months ago
They were charged with a***e of other foster kids many years later. Police also appear to believe they were involved, but extensive searches around their property a few years ago turned up nothing else that could lead to arrests.
#54
True crime internet sleuths that come up with something law enforcement missed are probably wrong. Coverups can happen, but they’re not as common as people think. Most law enforcement wants to get to the bottom of stuff as much as anyone else, but they are way better at it and have access to much more information that anyone on the internet does.
#55
Brian Shaffer left the bar.
IamL0rdV0ldem0rt:
To add to this, I have never seen conversations about WHY everyone thinks he didn’t make it home that night. I think he probably did and whatever happened was the following day.
#56
Baby Deorr was never at the campsite and his parents know more.
nevertotwice_:
I don’t doubt their grief but the parents absolutely know more than they’re saying.
#57
The Delphi [case] should have been solved within days or weeks, and justice may be denied because of investigative incompetence.
#58
Maura Murray ran into the woods, hid somewhere to keep warm and succumbed to the elements. Her body is likely less than a mile from where her car was parked.
#59
Darlie did it and Darren had more involvement than thought. I was her neighbor and while I was young my mom always said they were "off".
senna4815:
Her sister is on TikTok fighting for her innocence and giving “proof” as to how it couldn’t have been her. Something about a sock found outside. Gives me OJ “the glove don’t fit obviously it wasn’t me!” Vibes.
#60
The Anglin brothers successfully escaped from Alcatraz and lived long lives in South America.
Also I really want there to be some crazy conspiracy behind the Dyatlov Pass hikers.
T'Mar of Vulcan 2 months ago
Sadly, the Dyatlov Pass hikers got caught in a whole series of events. An avalanche, paradoxical undressing, wild animal predation and probably some kind of radiation from a nearby base. All can be true at the same time.
#61
John Wayne Gacy had accomplices.
iseefractals 2 months ago
Yeah, he said he had accomplices, and it's very likely that he was involved in a S*x trafficking ring. John David Norman, one of the most notorious and public facing pedophiles, had moved to chicago in 1973, was quickly sent to prison where he began to rebuild his little p**o circus with help from another inmate, Phillip Paske....who continued to do norman's bidding upon release.....Gacy employed Paske at one point. Gacy was a dedicated member of the local political party, even serving as democratic precinct captain in the years before his arrest. He was friends with cops in the area, familiar with powerful bosses, and would throw barbecues in his back yard to bring that community together. Hard to believe none were aware of him sodomizing an underage boy in the mid 60's given that it led to one of his divorces.
#62
Whew lots of unpopular opinions and theories:
Damien Echols was not just a misfit who was judged for liking rock music. He had documented homicidal delusions and was very mentally ill. Investigators didn’t assume he was into sacrifices because he liked Metallica, it’s because he would tell doctors he wanted to sacrifice a child. He also didn’t get a fair trial, but that doesn’t change the other facts.
The jury was correct to find Casey Anthony not guilty. I’m confident she is guilty but the prosecution did not prove that at trial.
There has not ever been a clear timeline of what happened in the Degree house on the night of Asha’s disappearance. I’m not saying the family is guilty, but almost every major detail about what happened during that time has multiple different versions.
#63
Bryce Laspisa's parents were too strict and bigoted mormons, and they caused his issues and him to flee. I really hope he's okay somewhere far from them..
#64
Amanda Knox is 100% innocent.
WalterWhiteSavannah 2 months ago
And was found to be and widely reported to be. I'm assuming that was a very old post. Not really a hot take in 2025.
Barbara Hill 2 months ago
Not. and she quickly lied on a Black man, then claimed that the police made her do it.
#65
Darlie Routier is 100% guilty.
#66
There was no owl on the staircase.
I’ve volunteered in a bird sanctuary, and any bird ever attacks you or comes into close involuntarily contact with you- there will be no question about what happened. Owls are precision hunters, and the thought that the owl somehow couldn’t avoid bumping into Kathleen seems very far fetched. But for arguments sake: If the owl was really startled or ill or whatever and flew into Kathleen, there would have been so much owl-evidence. You just cannot wrestle/fight/ward off any bird without it losing TONS of feathers . There would be feathers and plumes everywhere. Ever seen the bottom of a bird cage? Exactly.
Kathleen had only microscopic feathers on her, which she most likely picked up just from walking outside or under a structure where an owl once sat. The defence read about the feathers in the report and ran with the story, hoping people didn’t know too much about owls (and succeeded).
Rika 2 months ago
Volunteering at a bird sanctuary doesn't make anyone an expert. One piece of evidence was videos from a supermarket's security cameras showing an owl attacking employees who were leaving the place late at night. It happened over a few days so it wasn't an isolated incident, and there have been many reports of people getting attacked by owls as well. Now whether or not an owl did it in this case can be up for debate, but it's a fact owls do sometimes see humans as prey and fighting back probably isn't the first thing that comes to mind when they dig those talons into your skull, it's best to try and flee.
#67
I will get so much hate for this but i feel uneasy about The West Memphis Three. Not so sure about the innocence...
#68
Nicole Kessinger was at best aware that Chris Watts was going to [commit a crime] and at worst she helped him!!!!!!!!!!! The only reason she wasn’t investigated further is because Chris admitted to the crime and the case was closed. Idc idc idc!!!
#69
Jeffery Epstein [ended his life]. There's no evidence that doesn't square with "American prisons suck" and he had plenty of motive.
WalterWhiteSavannah 2 months ago (edited)
Nah. Not buying that one, or more accurately, if he did people made sure to give him every opportunity to do so and likely pressured him to ensure he followed through.
#70
My absolute favorite case is the Isdal Woman. I know many people disagree and have other theories, but I still believe that she was an agent or spy of some kind. There are too many clues to simply toss away - removed clothing labels, bogus names, secretive meetups, observing submarine drills, etc. I don’t know who she was an agent for (I believe the USSR and Mossad are likely guesses).
#71
Sandra Melgar is innocent.
SurrealCollagist:
The second I saw her interrogation years ago I totally thought she was innocent. I've heard/read people who said that there were things/facts mentioned at trial that show guilt, and I imagine there has to be Something or the jury wouldn't have found her guilty. I suppose I should look into it more. Because all the prosecution could come up with as a motive is that she was bored with him... Would be interesting to hear from jurors.
#73
That Jeffery Dahmer will always be the most fascinating case of all time for people who are actually really into psychology and true crime.
#74
That all criminals can benefit from counselling, no matter what armchair psychologists think.
#75
Nobody under the age of 18 should ever be tried a an adult.
Michael None 2 months ago
Nope. A number does not make you less able to be responsible for your actions.
EmJay 2 months ago
But it does if your brain is not fully developed because you’re too young.
Load More Replies... Barbara Hill 2 months ago
Yes, they should. they are fully aware of what they are doing. and will work the juvie system. Will commit more crimes with a leg monitor on.
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Rika 2 months ago
Cops aren't being lazy when they refuse to start an investigation because you reported someone as missing after they didn't pick up your calls for three hours. There's no reason for investigation unless the person has a serious physical or mental condition (like Alzheimer's) or they expressed s*icidal thoughts/received death threats. Any adult person has the right to stop answering calls and disappear, it's not the cops' job to track them and ask why they don't wanna talk to you anymore.
Bec 2 months ago
In some of these cases hindsight is 20/20, but if the police were coming in looking for a missing person, preserving the crime scene (JonBenet e.g.) wasn't their first priority.
Load More Replies... General Anaesthesia 2 months ago
Too many [dսmb] brackets, BP. If you're going to censor every kіll, mսrdеr etc. don't post.
Rika 2 months ago
Cops aren't being lazy when they refuse to start an investigation because you reported someone as missing after they didn't pick up your calls for three hours. There's no reason for investigation unless the person has a serious physical or mental condition (like Alzheimer's) or they expressed s*icidal thoughts/received death threats. Any adult person has the right to stop answering calls and disappear, it's not the cops' job to track them and ask why they don't wanna talk to you anymore.
Bec 2 months ago
In some of these cases hindsight is 20/20, but if the police were coming in looking for a missing person, preserving the crime scene (JonBenet e.g.) wasn't their first priority.
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Too many [dսmb] brackets, BP. If you're going to censor every kіll, mսrdеr etc. don't post.
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