33 Things That Have Gotten So Expensive, People Now Avoid Buying Them
Interview With ExpertThe economy is in a truly bizarre place right now. Some countries are on the verge of a recession. Others may or may not have already gone through one and have rebounded, depending on what expert you ask. Inequality is deepening while shrinkflation is rearing its ugly head. And despite people grumbling about their expenses, not everyone is changing their spending habits. It’s a confusing time for many of us.
But something that many people have noticed is just how gosh-darn expensive things have gotten compared to years past, from second-hand clothing to even regular fast food meals or just a cup of coffee in town. The r/AskReddit community shared what has completely shocked them in terms of prices, and we’ve collected their most relatable insights. Scroll down to read them.
Bored Panda reached out to personal finance expert Sam Dogen for some insights on living with a tighter budget and how breadwinners can treat their loved ones even when times are tough. You'll find our interview with the author of ‘How To Engineer Your Layoff’ and the host of the ‘Financial Samurai’ blog below.

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Movies at the theater. That ship has sailed for my family. Major movies now are at home within a few months. Even faster if they don't light up the box office. I chose to invest in a kick a*s home theater and I have zero regrets.
Yes!! You can pause it anytime and the snacks don't cost an arm and a leg!
Plus you're not limited to whatever they have behind the glass
Load More Replies...At the risk of sounding like an old woman, I remember when I could go to the cinema with my friends as a teenager and buy snacks and have enough for bus fare home with £5. I'm 37 so it wasn't a million years ago.
I still go 1-2 times a year. Some films should be on the big screen. I will see Dune: Part Two at the theaters.
Me as well, loved part one and the new Dune: Part Two trailers look amazing so I will be definitely seeing it in a theater.
Load More Replies...Only time I go out to the movies any more is the local independent theatre that shows all the weird foreign films and holds drag shows every Friday. Last time I was there, they were showing Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920) with a live band playing the music. It's a silent film. THAT was worth the money and not something you can get at home.
Yes and when cinemas go out of business it's streaming movies only for you left
good investment. In about a year, you will make back the expense just on snacks
I can definitely wait for a movie to hit a streaming service and would rather just watch at home, too, but I've found that using Groupon for theater tickets is the best way to go. Last week, I took my son to see the new Trolls movie at AMC for all of $8 for the both of us with a Groupon. If you don't have to be the first one in line to see a movie and go on a Friday night like everyone else the theater experience doesn't have to be that expensive. And bring your own snacks. The 20 year old that lets you in doesn't care what you have in your backpack.
Me too. PT an addition on the house and styled it in our way with soothing ambient lighting and a fireplace. Nice and cozy! Add a little yo ho ho! And we're watching whatever we want on demand
20 years ago, if you didn't watch a movie while it was at the cinema you had to wait 18-24 months for the VHS/DVD/Bluray release...now the turnaround time is 2 to 8 weeks for pretty much everything. It's not worth paying $12-$28 per ticket, plus another $20 per person for overpriced snacks so you get to have the overpriced expierence ruined by a sea of a$$holes screwing around on their phones through most of the movie, or endure the PoS parents that drag kids to see movies because "just cause i be a mom don't mean i don't deserve to do stuffs too" I could tolerate the prices, since it's rare that there's anything worth seeing in a cinema were it not for the other people.
Personal finance expert Dogen, the host of the 'Financial Samurai' blog, likened tightening your budget to wearing braces to realign your teeth.
"When you first get braces, they are painful. But after a while, as your teeth shift, that discomfort fades. Then the orthodontist tightens them again and you feel it afresh!" the author of the bestseller ‘How To Engineer Your Layoff’ shared with Bored Panda.
"Similarly, if your new saving rate isn’t somewhat painful each month, you haven’t cut expenses substantially. But over time, you adapt to lower spending levels again. That signals the need for further reduction, tightening back up bit by bit. Keep incrementally trimming 10% more elements until reaching solid financial bones," he suggested.
Concert tickets. It’s gotten to be over $100 to sit on the grass, in August, in Houston.
Add to that the fact that the majority of people running the sound system have no clue what balance audio is. Most concerts are overwhelming bass. Stay home and listen to the recordings.
The problem is that people are willing to pay these prices. It's hard to fathom paying so much and then relying on screens to watch. It's insane.
I have missed many concerts because the ticket prices were astronomical. Foo Fighters came around near me earlier this year and tickets were almost $200...for the shittier seats!
Concerts went from Once in a lifetime experience into once in a lifetime financial decision.
i think you mean "big concerts" i rarely pay more than 100. last time was around 100 for a John Fogerty gig in Dublin, general admission, had a front row spot. 95% of my concerts are not even 40 euro. edit: and yes, ticketbastard sucks ballz
On my 17th birthday in 1968, went to see Jimi Hendrix and had a front row seat at the edge of the stage............$3.
In 1978 I saw Queen. $7.50. I saw KISS in 1976. Tickets cost the same. The last time Queen toured, tickets started at $350 and went up to $5000.
Candy bars
69 cents? I'll grab one from time to time. Full grown adult.
$2.69? Lol wut? That's like actual money. For a candy bar? How are they still in business?
I'd feel sorry for you, but I remember when you could get a candy bar, soft drink, or a bag of chips for a dime.
Load More Replies...I get packs of mini sized ones when they come on special.
I buy bags of the mini ones also. I've found I'm satisfied with one of those instead of a full size bar.
Load More Replies...The UK determines is financial situation based on the cost of a Freddo. I remember when they were 5p
They were a lot smaller back then too though. Seriously, sometime in the last 20 years, King Size became the new normal and the new King Size is massive.
The other day I paid over $3 for two small peanut butter and chocolate holiday trees. They were not worth $1.50 @! But it's the holidays.
Oh yeah, absolutely atrocious. A King Size Snickers is about $4 anywhere and everywhere in California.
Okay, I thought those were dumb greedflation numbers here in Canada. I didn't realize everyone else was dealing with the same b/s. Chips and pop are 2 other items that have doubled in price. I rarely buy name brand colas now unless its a mega deal and the same for chips. I just laugh and walk away.
Personal finance expert Dogen suggested keeping one 'Financial Samurai' mantra in mind when it comes to budgeting and cutting back on expenses: "If the amount of money you're saving each month doesn't hurt, you're not saving enough!"
He also shared a savings guide by age with us that can help anyone keep on track "for a wealthy retirement."
Bored Panda was curious about how people can still treat their loved ones even when they're working with considerably tight budgets.
Dogen, the author of ‘How To Engineer Your Layoff,’ explained to us that it's not money that should be the main focus here.
Housing
This one is being artificially inflated by the landlords. The city I live in has been decreasing in population for several years but rents keep going up. Thousands of units remain empty. The property owners are abusing artificial scarcity to keep rent prices high. Real estate people suck.
Fire your politicians, and hire some who will pass laws based on what people need instead of what money wants.
Load More Replies...Home prices are so high, most people are priced out of the market. They have no choice but to rent, so the corporate landlords pump up the prices. Then they buy up properties, make repairs on them and then tell the current tenants their rent is going up by hundreds of $.
Move in ready homes are very high in price. There are many homes on the market that are very affordable but are in need of serious renovation. Those that can do the work themselves make out. Those that lack the skills or don't put in the effort to learn will stuck being renters.
Because we all have buckets of spare time to moonlight as contractors. And buckets of spare cash to pay for materials.
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Second hand clothing stores. Some of the things in there I can buy for same price, if not less, for brand new!
I pop into the Salvos (Salvation Army Store) for my work shirts. I'm a contractor and I do use boots, heavy duty shorts/trousers but my shirts get shabby real quick, so some $5 second hand ones are great.
I was in Plato's Closet awhile back and they had a WALMART brand sweatshirt, WITH STORE TAG that said $5.99. Plato's Closet's price? $14.99. I took it to the counter to let them know. They could not have cared less. Like literally didn't GAF. I'm sure they just ripped the WM tag off and hung it back on the rack but Jesus. I haven't been back since.
Why would I do to a charity shop to buy Primark gear with the label cut out that's falling apart for twice the price of brand new? Gone are the days of finding some awesome bargains.
Either try shops in nearby towns or online sites like Thredup.
Load More Replies...I know they've gotten more expensive, but I've never seen shirts (which is mostly what I buy at Goodwill, along with books) cost more than about $7.00. Try getting one for that new. I assume that's not true other places?
I've found it depends on the location of the GW. The one's located in more affluent areas might have higher prices, while the ones in more rural towns or less affluent areas may have lower prices. I went to one in a hipper part of the city and they had someone's mediocre artwork on canvas board, not canvas, priced at $30 and more.
Load More Replies...Here's the rub....thrift stores used to be filled with actual donated clothing....well made items that were meant to last, and priced accordingly. Now...fast fashion rules the simple minded masses, who are chomping at the bit to buy $5 shirts sewn by 8 year old slaves, working 16 hours for 20 cents a day because some vapid millionaire celebrity looked cute in something that kinda sorta resembled it.....and now that you've bought the trash garment you've got 3-6 months of minimal use before it starts to fall apart. Thrift stores don't source individual items....they buy that stuff by weight. It should be very telling to everyone with two brain cells to rub together how f****d up it is that thrift stores pay more for random lots of garments than the cost that manufactures do to produce and sell the stuff new.
I still love eBay as you can find decent branded clothing for £1-2 so like £4-5 inc postage. I got an Oliver Bonas jumper (probably around £50-60) last month for £4:85 inc postage and it had the tag on still! Took a bag of stuff to the charity shop (stuff I couldn't be bothered to sell on eBay) and saw a nice jumper. Was M&S (so another decent British brand) but priced at £12.99!! Probably cost around £25 new. Wasn't even new with tags, was definitely second hand. I was so shocked I started to look at other prices and was shocked how expensive they all were. I'll stick to eBay, can shop from my own home, there are charities that sell on there too (that seem cheaper than in stores) and I'm still not buying new and helping the planet.
Depends on where and what, really. If you're shopping at a store that calls themselves "vintage" then, yes, you're going to pay some obnoxious, pretentious price for things but if you're at a Salvation Army store you can score some decent pants for 8 bucks.
Fabric. When my daughter was little, I sewed clothes for her myself. Now, fabric is so expensive that it's just cheaper to buy the clothes already made.
I enjoy sewing but it has become too expensive hobby. Now I only sew to repurpose materials I already have. Old fleece blankets into dog bed covers, old curtains into seat cushion covers… I just save old worn stuff that is made of decent quality fabric and repurpose as needed.
I thought that fabric went up in the price, but I wasn't sure. It costs so much now that I really think about growing my own hemp or flax and getting a loom.
I would give anything to have some of the clothes back my grandmother made me as a child. She made the most amazing clothes. She was an incredibly talented woman. She always made Christmas and Easter dresses for me and my sister, and they looked like something you'd get out of a high-end children's clothing boutique.
And clothing patterns. Used to cost a few dollars. Now cost $10.00 plus! For a paper envelope filled with tissue paper! Then your fabric, thread, notions, etc.
i would think that the cheap clothes you can buy for the same money are not even half the quality of the home made clothes.
Depends on the fabric and thread (and skill). Most quality durable fabrics and threads are getting expensive and/or hard to find.
Load More Replies...Artificially kept high so its cheaper to buy the crappy stuff off the shelf
Most fabric has to be imported instead of made here in the US. Overseas, they don't have to pay a living wage, provide health and retirement benefits, a safe workplace, be environmentally conscious, etc.
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tip culture, no way i have to tip on everything and be pressured too lmao
I'll tip servers because I know the way the wage system works here for hospitality, but I am NOT tipping folks I know already earn a decent wage and often more than I make.
Used to be the rule not to tip owners or managers
Load More Replies...That's ridiculous ! Went through the drive thru at a chicken place. Large order so I changed it. When they ran the card and gave me the ticket to sign it had tip suggestions and a tip line. 10-15 or 20%, conveniently figured out for you. I felt somewhat pressured to give a tip since I hadn't received any food yet. This whole tip culture has gotten out of hand. I'm sorry that your employer doesn't pay you enough but this is like a game of kick the can. They don't pay you enough, you start leaning on the customer for tips and the customer can't even afford a drive thru meal for the family so they cut out that little luxury. The only one who truly benefits from this is the grocery store. You spen a little bit more to cook at home. The final person who is hit by this is the person who has to prepare the food and clean up after. That person can't even get the treat of a night off.
Load More Replies...Like a pretzel place - asks for tips. Really? - you actually just turned around to complete the order.
I bought a fairly expensive kayak online. Never once interacted with a human and during checkout they prompted for a tip. It was like service tips 10-20% options. In the price range that’s literally hundreds of dollars. I stopped there and found a similar model from a different manufacturer. It’s just got silly. Retail purchases shouldn’t include tips. Especially when I buy online. What in the world am I tipping for?
Im Australian. No tipping. Was in vegas a few weeks back and self serve terminals and take out food terminals ask for tips. Funck no.
The whole system of us needing to tip servers every time because their wages are too low; we need to fix that system by giving them a decent wage. If they go above and beyond, give them a tip as a little extra "thank you" but don't make it mandadory. I took it upon myself to tip someone at the tire place because they went waaaaay above and beyond. I did it as a "thank you for going the extra 5 miles" the tip was unexpected, but it was my decision, not a mandatory
I actually just stopped going anywhere that takes tips. Don't order pizza, Chinese, go to a place with servers, heck, I even cut my own hair now cuz the tablet at the barber had a tip prompt. I can't take the anxiety, have fun with one less customer. The corporations cleverly made it so that fighting tipping culture hurts the servers before them, so I've had to adopt this method for the time being.
Frozen dinners. The entire appeal of the product was that you could buy a meal for $2-3. Now that they are $10, you might as well just buy actual food for dinner.
OP nailed it when saying buying actual food instead of so much fat, additives, salt and the rest.
Imo, portion sizes are fine. It's because we are used to eating more that they seem to be too small. For example, for Xmas I bought myself a gammon roast serves 5....cool my dinners for the week. My hubby bought a veggie roast that the package said 5 servings and he literally said "Yeah that's not gonna happen". Since being diagnosed as diabetic, the Dr told me the best way to keep the weight off (was obese) and my sugar levels in check was to stick to portion size and to cut out processed food and sugar.
Load More Replies...Funny, I just checked my stores app, and most were around 3.50 to 3.99 but when I'm in store I swear they're 5.99 to 6.99, but maybe because I used to get the same ones for like 2.00 that worked pretty well for work lunch.
Load More Replies...Many frozen pizzas are now really good, especially if you have a pizza stone (you put it in the oven under the pizza for the best/most even heat), and are a great value - many are less than $5 (even the Wal-Mart brand for ~$3.50 is really good) and are even better than $15 pies from the chains... Though not nearly as good as the $30+ pies from local shops, of course, but a tasty no-hassle meal for very cheap!
Name one frozen dinner that actually looks as good as the photo on the package.
$10 ++++ for frozen meals, most not any better than the older $2-$3 meals...in fact many not as good, just added c**p and phony marketing
I’m learning to cook again. Fast food and premade food is too expensive
Fast food had three things going for it: it was fast, it was cheap, and it was kind of tasty in a greasy/salty way. This was the trade off for it being very bad for you and making you feel sick later. Now, it’s slow, it’s expensive, and though it’s still kind of tasty, it’s just not tasty enough to offset the other major pain points.
And smaller. How can they call it a Whooper or BigMac now?
Load More Replies...$5 biggie bag at Wendy’s. 2 for $5 Whopper jr with cheese at BK. $2 breakfast sandwich and $1 for a large coffee or coke with the McDonald’s app. $5 fan deal all the time at McDonalds. Cheap fast food is still out there
as a European i never understand the american way of living with so many people that dont know how to cook oh, edit: and europeans complaining about the costs of things they can make themselfs like spaghetti sauce
Cooking is a great thing to do. And you might get surprised with how many things are really easy to make (and how some things are crazy time consuming). Also, I was surprised how cheap is home-made fresh pasta. If you go for egg version, it still costs about one fifth of price of store fresh pasta (which is made mostly with water, not eggs). If you can get egg pasta in store, it usually costs ten to fifteen times of what home made costs. And it doesn't take that long to make, the worst part is letting the dough sit for 30 minutes, but that is just the right time to prepare fresh meatballs.
recently ive been baking my own bread. usually you get a kilo of bread for 3 dollars, however i can bake arond 1-2 kilos of bread for 1 dollar. it is even tastier more filling and much more healthier.
My job grossly underpays me and everyone else... Like $3 or more less than the state minimum wage. After working over 8 hours outside in the elements, I occasionally grab fast food while driving home since I don't get time to eat or buy food at work and it's a 45 min drive. I want to cry every time I get a single fast food meal, knowing that an hour of work isn't even enough to pay for it.
Feeling wealthy isn’t about any exact number in your bank account. Feeling wealthy comes down to how you manage your income, expenses, savings, and investments. If you’re taking care of your and your loved ones’ needs and have enough cash left over to indulge in travel, hobbies, and fun activities—you’re living the life.
On the flip side, no matter how much you earn, you’ll never feel like it’s enough if you’re in debt and dipping into your savings to maintain a luxurious lifestyle.
Ikea furniture. IKEA particle board junk is now the same price as real furniture made from real wood. Not only that, but there has also been a noticeable decline in quality. Greedflation and ensh**tification all in one.
I don't know about stores, but our cabinets from 1920's are still standing strong. They just need a bit of oil and polishing from time to time.
Load More Replies...Real wood furniture? Good luck finding that at an affordable price. Better off getting the cheap knock-offs from Bob's.
Ikea sell a range of stuff in different price ranges and materials. I recently assembled a pair of warddrobes, a desk and a bed for a neighbour and they were all pretty solidly built. I have a couple of Billy bookcases (doesn't everybody?) and those things are pretty indestructable. If you buy their cheapest stuff, don't expect it to be made like their more expensive stuff.
Ikea was always made from particle board with a wood or vinyl veneer. My old furniture from 25 years ago was made that way. My recent purchases have been solid. My kitchen table, chairs, end tables and night stands are painted wood and just as sturdy as anything I purchased from them 25 years ago. I did purchase an entertainment center/shelving unit that was built differently. The non structural side panels used to be particle board with a veneer. Now they're made out of a stiff corrugated cardboard material. I wouldn't have noticed except I needed to put in a side hole for an electrical cable. The piece is strong and solid otherwise. I won't be drilling any more holes into that piece. It's definitely not furniture you'll be handing down for generations but it does the job.
I work for a luxury home furnishing company (think ceramic vases/urns as big as a toddler, furniture with iron frames, lamps for $600 wholesale) and they use MDF with wood veneers on all the wooden furniture. And no, they're not doing well financially because people can't afford their prices. I'm looking for another job.
I have mostly old furniture that was my Mom's or in the family; however, I have seen nice all wooden furniture at my two local thrift shops lately .Chairs, bureaus, tables, etc. I also have seen nice wooden furniture at the shop at Habitat for Humanity. Some of these items need some relatively minor work but are serviceable a they are.
Craigslist - I got a real wood desk for 600 bucks that was retail 1400. You have to look frequently and be able to wait to find that perfect item.
There's plenty of real wood furniture out there for very reasonable prices, but nobody wants it because it's unfashionable dark wood. Go to your local auction house and they're practically giving the stuff away.
Restaurants. Recently went out to eat for the first time in a year and spent 100$ for 2 and it wasn’t very good. Felt guilty spending almost a days pay on one meal.
This is why when going out, research is good. Look at reviews, ask friends and colleagues. Not only can you have a very good meal for $100, but you can also learn about places that are affordable and and have a great meal for $30.
Yes. And i live in a restaurant rich neighborhood. I have 1 staple...Taco Boys Carne Asada Quesadilla.
The only food worth ordering or going out for is Pizza.....and only because that is all but impossible to replicate at home without spending $1000+ on the oven needed to get the same results. Everything else can be done at home, cheaper, healthier and better with a little bit of effort.
we travel a lot. We were in Zurich recently, that town is godforsaken expensive. I had a 20 euro salad and the BF a 20 euro pizza in a trendy restaurant. (ok, admit, the drinks were 5 each) the salad was the best i had in ages and also very big. BF said the pizza was decent too. I had a great indian meal in a popular indian restaurant in London last month. 30 for two courses and drinks. just wanna say that you should maybe check for different restaurants.
Netflix, Prime, all the streaming services are too much these days.
Me too, a lot of the streamers are giving cheaper prices if you allow advertising. I don't have a problem with the ads themselves, but the greed of these corporations is astounding.
Load More Replies...And...and Amazon just gave everyone a Christmas present today. An email explaining they are adding commercials to movies...unless you pay an extra $3 a month.
There are still free streaming channels. They carry older stuff, but a movie I haven't seen from '95 (or one I've seen a zillion times because I love it) is just as good as a movie I haven't seen from '22. The old sitcoms were actually funny, and I laugh at them. Documentaries are informative/silly/spooky whether they're from now or '07. Yes, there are commercials. Bathroom and BP breaks!
Some old sitcoms are great, and held up. And some are painful to watch and make me wonder what I was thinking at the time when they were first run. Sturgeon’s Law applies.
Load More Replies...That's the comment I was looking for. It might be the generation I'm from (internet literate in the early 2000s) but piracy is always on the table, unless the paid option is incredibly convenient. It's not anymore, time to hoist the flag again.
Load More Replies...We can't afford cable so we gave that up and use streaming services. Cheaper than paying almost $150 a month.
I do not know how anyone can afford more than one or two of these streaming services. I have two and that’s enough.
Streaming serial monogamy. We get one service for a couple months, catch up on things, then switch to the next and then the next.
Tubi is free and has a surprising amount of good stuff. Pirating is really the best way to watch. You don’t need Netflix and Hulu really. YouTube is the only one who’s content you can’t really pirate. Prime is also free btw. I pay for Hulu anyway because it’s only like $7 but if I couldn’t spare it, I’d just pirate those. I pay for YouTube premium and peacock as well. Peacock is only like $5-10
I rotate among most of them. There are two I keep because we watch them all the time (one is Amazon with the PBS and BBC channels), and the others I only activate when there’s something specific we want to watch. They just cost too much to keep all the time.
When it comes to spending money, you want to make sure that you’ve put together a budget and covered your core necessities (e.g. food, fuel, rent, clothing). Then, make sure that you’re thinking about the future and setting a certain portion of your cash aside either in your savings account, investing it, or a bit of both. Many personal finance experts call saving a portion of your paycheck “paying yourself first.”
However, just living off rice, beans, and tap water isn’t going to do wonders for your emotional and spiritual health. People need more than just survival. So even if you’re on a tight budget, set aside a small part of your wage to have some fun.
Just getting a drink at a bar.
The price increase in bars has been exponential compared with the cost of alcohol at the store.
More than likely to offset the cost of food, which has increased an average of 80% in the last year alone!
Load More Replies...You're going to the wrong bars. My happy hour spot after work is still selling $2 pints. $1 tacos there too.
Even virgin drinks! Got a virgin pina colada and it was 9 bucks. I live in a midwestern town.
Was just in vegas. The new sphere charge $18. US for a can of beer. $9 for water...yes $9usd. NO drinks can enter of course
Roughly $ 150 to $200 worth of drinks out of a $10 bottle of cheap booze...
My sons' college tuition was 10 times what mine cost. I have a grandson coming up in a few years. Will it be 100 times more than mine?
My first semester at community college was $80 for up to 18 credits. The books were $300 for my classes. But, I was only making $3.35/hr and my share of the rent was $220 for a cockroach infested sh*thole. That was 86 in SoCal. I feel lucky to have grown up where and when I did.
Colleges are sitting on millions of dollars in their bank accounts. The presidents and the sports coaches are the only ones getting paid obscene salaries.
My husband's degree was $5,000 total, now it's 100 times higher at $500k for the average 4-year degree. I feel so bad for the young ones coming up today.
Def not 500k. Undergrad and grad school. 70k total. Room and board. State school.
Load More Replies...Politicians determined that the federal government would back all student loans through them, voila
Education is important but... quality of that education is more important. I wish I had a dollar for every bachelor or master of business grad I've met who went years before they made more than a kid Flippin burgers at a fast food joint... By contrast how many I've known that went to tech school and got degrees in engineering, computer technology robotics and that list goes on and on who after to 3 years graduated and started ar $ 65 to $90k Plus a year...
Lyft / Uber aren’t nearly the deal they used to be.
More expensive than a cab ride in some places. They've become the thing they tried to destroy.
Well, their goal was to replace taxis and elevate prices as much as they want because no one is controlling them.
Load More Replies...It's....it's almost like the "gig economy" being an unregulated free for all in which everyone presumes they can always default into the barest of efforts is a bad thing. NYC regulated their cabs to keep traffic somewhat contained while facilitating drivers with a livable wage....they clocked that number at 14,000 cab drivers......by 2014, Uber alone had put 77,000 "drivers" on the road....on top of the actual cab drivers....and other ride share drivers. There's only two ways for that model to be sustainable for workers 1) they actually regulate the number of drivers 2) they make the cost so stupidly expensive that no matter how oversaturated the market it's still enough to keep drivers coming back. It's a special kind of hell created by the same people complaining about it.
Yup! All exactly as planned by they themselves! Step 1: "Disrupt" the taxi market by undercutting prices so the taxi companies go bankrupt. Step 2: jack up prices to be HIGHER than the original taxi companies were. Absolutely ZERO "innovation" here.
For me and my dude, it's cheaper taking an Uber downtown than it is to drive and pay for parking. And we don't have to worry about our car getting broken into, and we can both have drinks.
Still nothing can beat the convenience. I’ve used Uber in many countries where I don’t speak the language and english is not prevalent. No need to call taxi and try to explain where I am and where I’m going. Just a few clicks and I’m on my way. And price given in advance is unbeatable, can’t count how many times taxi driver tried to scam me.
Say, if you used to enjoy eating dinner downtown or grabbing a cup of coffee with a friend, do that from time to time. Or go see a movie at the (ridiculously overpriced) local cinema, treating yourself and your date to some popcorn. It’s the frequency of these activities that matters, not that we avoid them altogether. Otherwise, life is going to be very bland.
Of course, there are plenty of cheap and free ways to enjoy life, too. Learning to cook awesome meals at home is a ton of fun, improves your skills, and can really impress your social circle. Going for long hikes out in nature is a fine way to get fit and detach from all the tech in your life. It can be a good alternative to going to the gym if the membership costs have gone through the roof.
Starbucks. A medium soy latte costs 7$ now.
I don’t understand this obsession with Starbucks. They failed in Australia for a very good reason. It’s overpriced c**p.
They burn the beans to make it seem stronger, but tastes like c**p
Load More Replies...If I treat myself to a coffee when out, I'll usually try to go to an independent coffee shop.
Far too much coffee wankery these days. Go to a good, small, locally owned cafe, and stop being a pretentious git.
Insisting on locally owned craft coffee is way more pretentious than going to the feeding mill that is Starbucks.
Load More Replies...Starbucks costs about the same as any other chain coffee shop (Peets Caribou), a regular drip coffee is reasonable, once you start with the soy latte mocha double pump no foam extra cream blah blah blah it gets expensive.
Over 5 years since the last time went there, buy a good V60 filter and quality beans, it only cost under a dollar for a single cup.
Another example of idiots with no respect for personal finances, and only wanting to show off... why else would they buy that lousy c**p they call coffee
They started out cheap to try and drive the competition out of business. Now there is often no option but to go there. I would rather do without than give them my money.
Delivered food - uber eats/door dash/grub hub... Who even uses them
And people like myself that have mobility issues
Load More Replies...I do. Depression has robbed me of the energy to cook and any enjoyment I used to get from cooking. If I want to eat, this is often my only option.
I feel ya. I usially order multiple meals because the charges feel less wasteful.
Load More Replies...People who live in a homeless shelter. I am in one now ( move to my own place Monday!!). I work and the food here sucks, so it's nice to have something " real" to eat.
Me! I don't have a car and I hate cooking. The trick is to buy like 3 meals at a time to make it worth it, and eat them over the next 3 days.
We still use them a few times a week, because sometimes we just aren’t up to cooking, and sometimes we want something that we can’t adequately cook ourselves. We stick to the cheaper restaurants for the most part, though. Honestly, with the cost of a lot of food at the grocery store these days, it’s not much cheaper than delivery for a lot of kinds of food.
Groceries
Food is cheaper now in real terms than 35 years ago before the budget supermarkets appeared.
I was surprised in supermarket. I do most of our shopping in small cash&carry and the same products cost way less there. With some things we don't talk about 5-10% difference, but sometimes close to 100%. Canned corn for example, supermarket has it for 65 crowns, this store has it for 28. Same brand and size. In the supermarket I had a strange feeling, something like being raped and mugged in the same time.
Load More Replies...compared to sallary, you can buy more groceries from your income as 30 years a go, at least in my country (Slovakia). It was many times debunked 😁
Hi neighbour country. 30y ago we was barely out of f*****g commie system. So you know... But let's check between now and 15-20y ago.
Load More Replies...Many of the things I buy have gone up by over 30% in the last couple of years, at least on the face prices. Loyalty discounts mean that at least some of them are not too bad. For example, my milk was £1/litre, and this has crept up to £1.35, but with a loyalty discount, I can get it for about £1.10 on alternate weeks. My income hasn't increased at all in that time.
Part of the problem is that a lot of people want everything all year round.
In 1962, my Mom was given $15 per week for groceries for a family of four, we ate very well.
At the end of the day, every tiny bit of additional income and every small saving quickly adds up. It’s up to you to decide what your priorities are going to be. If you’re a big fan of music, then naturally, you’ll still want to attend concerts. You’ll find ways to pay for those shockingly expensive tickets by cutting back in some areas of your life that you care less about. Like letting go of the half-dozen subscriptions you might have, slowly eating away at your bank balance.
Meanwhile, if you’re passionate about painting, traveling, or rebuilding that sweet 1967 Chevrolet Impala in your garage, you’ll find the budget for these things. You might have to reduce your expenses, but you’ll find that the cliche of skipping lattes at Starbucks can give your budget some additional flexibility.
Fast food. It’s literally cheaper to go to my local burger joint and get a burger than it is to go to Wendy’s and the burger is outrageously better. Plus they have beer.
I agree Wendy’s has gotten expensive but I can’t find a sit-down restaurant where you can get a burger, fries and a beer for less than a burger, fries and a drink at Wendy’s. The former would be at least $20 while the latter would be $12.
I ate at Wendy's last week, my order was $12. That's the cost of a burger at burger joint. Yes, fast food has gotten expensive. I don't know where you live that beer, fries and a burger is cheaper than Wendy's, but I also don't think I'd like a burger from that place either. Most restaurants now charge upwards of $6 for a beer, so where in the f**k are you getting a $3 burger and $ fries?
Load More Replies...$5 biggie bag at Wendy’s. $5 fan deal at McDonalds
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I'm only just coming to terms with this, but potato chips
Weird enough our cinema started selling tickets for £5 after they were ~£13. Now the cinemas are much busier and as result they are selling a lot more popcorn and drinks. Probably taking more money than at higher price.
Movie theaters make the bulk of their money on the concessions.
Load More Replies...The gas that preserves the quality of the chip and prevents them from being crushed? Sure, do away with that, let's get some new complaints.
Load More Replies...Anything that says kettle costs twice as much. But with shrinkflation the bag has little
Childcare
I don't know why these were downvoted. It's true. Good childcare is expensive because if you cheap out, you're not going to get someone well educated or trained. Who do you want to trust your child to? Until we start valuing the people who watch and teach our children, it will be hard to find good people to do those jobs. My daughter in law made more as a receptionist than she did as a teacher. That's sad.
I’ve always said you get what you pay for. And that applies equally to labor. If you consistently underpay, you will get labor that is not invested in providing quality labor. Make people feel like their value is minimum wage, expect minimum wage results. Consistently pay high and compete for people who can work for those higher costs and you get better quality work.
Load More Replies...Turned out it cost more for me to go back to work and pay for childcare than for me to stay home and raise him myself.
I became a stay-at-home dad for years as I was just handing my entire paycheck over to daycare...
Load More Replies...It costs $2,700 per month per child (under age 5) at our local childcare center. Pacific Northwest USA
Ouch! I’m so thankful for my parents. I couldn’t afford daycare rates as a single divorced mom who had to fight for every child support check.
Load More Replies...This. Childcare has gotten ridiculously expensive and the quality of care has gone down. It’s literally cheaper for some families to just have one parent not work, because their entire salary would have gone to childcare.
Grapes I saw they were on ‘sale’ and at the till they were $10…for a bag of grapes…I said to the cashier, “please take them back. I can’t justify a half hour of work for a bag of freaking grapes”.
It gets more difficult to eat healthy these days. Prices always rises on the perishables. You should see just how much gets thrown away.
I down voted this one because it is hard to believe that this person did not see the price on the grapes and do simple math to figure out how much they were going to be, (approximately), before getting to the till. And to all of you that complain that people need to be paid better and yes they do, but where the frock do you think that money is coming from????????
Not on the theme of grapes but hyundaii australia quoted to replace car key remote. Almost 1k. I said to parts guy he should point a gun when seeking to rob customers.
Soda. I could buy a 12 pack for $2.50-3.00 back then. Now theyre $12+. Like f**k that s**t. I switched to drinking coffee mixed with chocolate milk now cause of it.
Just give up soda entirely. The sweeteners (incl. sugar) are all terribly bad for you, and the carbonation is bad for your teeth. Once you get used to it, unsweetened coffee and tea is delish and way cheaper.
Get a CO2 tank and set-up. Way cheaper in the long run and less waste too.
I've used soda-streams to make fizzy water for decades, and yes, they're really good. But you cannot buy the name-brand syrups, so for anything like Cola you're never going to get close to the taste of the real thing. I don't drink much of that sort if thing anyway, just a _little_ fruit or iced tea syrup/cordial/squash in sparkling water is much better IMO.
Load More Replies...I don't know why you were downvoted for that, it makes sense to stock up when they have the buy one get one free sales.
Load More Replies...And those lower soda costs were only two years ago where I live. I only buy soda in 16 oz bottle multipacks. And I refuse to pay more than $3. Means I get to enjoy soda in the summer. But the rest of the year, I only drink soda at my parents house (they can shoes the more inflated prices but even they have their limit) or at fast food/convenience store fountain drinks. And I rarely do that because I’ve worked in both types of establishments and was always the only person that worked there that knew how to properly break down the machines to clean them at the end of shift. If you’ve never seen the nastiness that lies beneath those nozzles, do yourself a favor and ask to see how clean they are. 9/10 times you’ll be disgusted and decide never to buy there again. Slime is a real issue on those machines.
Nope u can have my mountain dew when you can come take it away from me good luck
In the US, a 16 oz bottle can cost almost $2.50 if purchased from one of those refrigerator cabinets by the register. It's cheaper to buy the 2 liter.
Retirement
i'm only living as long as I can afford it, then I'm shuffling off this mortal coil. i would not fair well over 60 and homeless.
It amazes me how many people that think they will be going into nursing homes. I worked in an assisted living center. I'm being generous to call the rooms studios as they could not cook. This was back in 2002. Those rooms were almost $4,000 a month. I would imagine they are probably $10,000 if not more per month. The fastest-growing segment of the homeless population is 50+ years old. EDIT: For the people who think medicade will pay, the reality is if medicade does cover the cost, you will receive $50 per month of your social security as an allowance while the rest goes to the facility.
Load More Replies...That is why we moved from a big metropolitan city to a small rural town. The rural town is a bit rundown, but a whole lot more affordable and almost no crime.
X'ers are going to have a difficult time retiring. We're going to be in the workforce longer than we'd like. With the general decline in population in post-industrial nations paying for elder care is going to get prohibitively expensive. With fewer young people paying into the social safety net governments are going to have a hard time affording their health and income promises for retirees. The population decline is a much bigger problem for the economy than anything else. Fewer people is better for the planet in the long-term. It's going to be rough living through it.
This is sad but true. I am in the age group that is just about the last to have a real pension (from a place I worked at for 40 years). I encourage everyone to start even very modest deferred tax options. You can accumulate an astonishing amount, especially if you are young and your employer will match part of your contribution. I know the COL is horrible these days, especially housing. Just do what you can - anything you can.
Realistically I cannot retire in the United States.
Load More Replies...What do people do who are retired? I can’t imagine waking up every day for the rest of your life and literally having nothing to do. I’d rather kick the bucket at 60 then retire.
Retirement costs nothing. Costs of living on a fixed income is a worsening issue. But then a family pizza did cost $2 in 1980 with a 25c beer...prices rise
My HOA doubled in the six years I have lived here. My home value went up, but not significantly.
This may be a bit weird…I still buy it, but not as much as I used too…Gum. I used to buy 2 packs for $2.50 now it’s almost $4.50 for 1 pack.
What kind of gum and where? I can still find 4 packs for less than $2 at the dollar stores.
Jerky
Much cheaper to make at home! A basic smoker is very affordable. Go to the grocery store and look for reduced for quick sale steaks. Slice them, marinate them or put on a rub, then pop them in the smoker. Store in airtight containers and it lasts quite a whie.
Love my food dehydrator. Wish I could afford a freeze dry unit.
Load More Replies...F****n cereal man. Some grade A b******t
Rice Krispies have shot up. I used to be able to get them on offer at £4 for two packs (£2/each), but now the best I can do is £2.50/pack, couple that with the recent shrinkflation from 17 portions to 14, they are now £3.04 for the equivalent volume as the old sized pack, or just over 50% price increase!
I only buy this from places like Costco for my plain cheerios and the dollar tree for my Raisin Bran. And, yes, those have been my favorites since I was a wee child
Anything that is pre-sliced/portioned/cut. It is like $8 for cut up cantaloupe where i live! I can get 3 cantaloupes and just cut them up in 5 minutes for the same price. Anything done for convenience in that way is out in our house!
Are people so time short they can’t cut fruit? Then you also have the extra waste of a tray and cling wrap.
Disabled, elderly or mentally ill people find pre-cut fruit a godsend when we can't do it ourselves. When my depression gets bad, I would get very little fruit without the precut stuff.
Load More Replies...I used to work in the cut fruit department, it's because they include the labor cost in the price of the cut fruit. They are being forced to increase wages because no one is willing to work minimum wage, so as our pay increases, so does the price of cut fruit.
I also heard they may not be as safe since you don't know where the knife has been before.
I was shopping in my town at a restaurant supply-type store and a pound of butter cut into 4 blocks was almost $9. Another pound of butter, same brand and packaging but sold in one single block was $3.99. For half the price, I can definitely cut my own butter. That one really blew my mind.
Brand new video games. I wait for a sale. I cannot pay 70 bucks for a base game.
I hate gaming going all digital. Kills the secondhand market for cheaper games. Or to buy a game and have to maintain a paid online account to use it.
20 years ago when I was PC gaming my standard procedure was to keep my computer up to last year’s specs and buys last year’s games. Probably saved 80% doing that. Now with it all digital you’re still paying $59.99 for a four-year-old download. Greedy rat bastards.
Load More Replies...You know even back in the 90s, while most games were 20-30 dollars, some games like Ocarina of Time were $70 at their release.
Yeah, Nintendo has never changed their pricing policy. Their games are never on sale either.
Load More Replies...Back in the 80s and 90s, video games were around $50 — and really no second hand market. So, relatively speaking, they’ve haven’t change much in price. I remember a few Genesis games that were $70.
$25 online. Nobody should buy instore. Secondhand now hard to even find
Rising prices of videogames are absolutely justified. 25 years ago a team of 10-20 people developed a game in 1, maybe 2 years. Today more than 100 people work for 5+ years on a game and in most cases that game isn't ready for release, beacuse there is so much to work on, but the realease is necessary, because after 5 years the funding money is used up. I think, videogames are too cheap for the work that is put in.
Especially when that $70 gets you an unfinished, bug-riddled product that shouldn’t be out of beta testing yet.
This. I’m like 2-3 years behind what everyone else is playing because I wait for games to be 20-30$ tops. Very rarely do I buy a game the year it comes out. Works well though, I’m an “older” gamer. With work and kids I only play a few hours a week so I have a huge backlog of playable old games to work through.
Plus something is ALWAYS wrong with them. Worth the wait for cheaper prices and updates to fix all the problems.
I love Good Old Games for this. They have some new ones, but I usually wait until they have a game of the year edition on sale.
Disney tickets.
I remember when they switched from paper tickets for each ride to day passes with unlimited rides. I think it was $6.95/day pass. Disneyland had a disco called Videopolis that was only open 2 years, during the summers of 86 and 87. They offered a summer season pass for $40 one year and $60 the next. It was only good after 7pm. We would go like 6 nights a week to dance and pick up girls. Also, DISNEYLAND HAS A JAIL. I was arrested multiple times. My friends and I would get off of *It's A Small World* and sneak around on the catwalks as people rode underneath. We would walk through the employee/behind the scenes areas as a shortcut. (and SO much more) I don't know why they never thought to take my pass away. I was 17-18 and my apartment was only 5 miles away. I will stop now because I could write 10 pages on growing up next to Disneyland.
I didn't think anyone else remembered Videopolis. Wow. THAT takes me back.
Load More Replies...Oof, did you see that story a few days ago about the woman who bought $10k worth of Disney+ vouchers, apparently thinking they were for the actual theme park rather than the streaming service? That's like 1000 years worth of Disney+, but I guess that's 1 visit to the theme park? Ew.
I did see that, but I think it was to be used for tickets and merchandise also. Maybe food? I don’t recall how big the family was, but those tickets are expensive. Disney let her swap them out.
Load More Replies...This is why I go to Indiana Beach each year. It's so much cheaper and just as good rides as Cedar Point or another theme park
Yes! I have no hope of ever being able to go back. Not that I could ride half the rides anymore due to all of my neck and back issues.
My wife is planning a Disney trip with the kid and cousins and aunts. Holy c**p. Base tickets are bad enough but all the upsell garbage it’s like 150$ a person to walk in the gate. It’s lucky for me though. I have a real problem with crowds (panic attacks) so my wife suggested me and the uncles just go do our own thing rather than blow 150 a head to be miserable.
Replacing the windows for your house.
Obviously, if you need to replace one... you need to replace one. But there was once a time where replacing your windows for the energy savings over 15 years + increase in potential resale price was well worth it.
Now? You're looking at $20k-$30k for what? $20 a month savings in energy usage? In a market where there could be a body in the basement which the potential buyer would let you leave so long as they got the house?
25 years ago we replaced all the house windows with Window World's vinyl design that had a lifetime warranty. Half of those windows seals leaked and we had to use the warranty a lot. Then the local Window World franchise was bought out and the new owner tried to charge us for warranty labor. We had to threaten him with legal action.
Everything home improvement for that matter. Lumber is insane. Flooring, we just put a laminate flooring in a 10x11 room and did it ourselves and it was 800$. A bucket of decent paint used to be the cheapest way to refresh a room. Now a paint project is in the hundreds of dollar range. I’m a long time diy guy and our old home was spectacular and we did it for very little money and some elbow grease. Now even doing it yourself a basic paint, baseboards trim and floor job on a small room is a grand. I would say we did all that with carpet at the last house for 300$ a room.
Depends how big your house is and how many windows you have. I only have 4 windows - the 2 Velux are about £1k each, but the ordinary windows at the front are more like £500 and £700 respectively, so my total would be about £3200. They need to be done as they are all wood. uPVC won't need painting and should be good for about 20 years.
My windows are so old they have rope pulleys to open (house built 1930). If it costs that much to have them replaced it's going to be a long while.
Funyuns. Those were my jam. We spent many a good time together. $5.49 for a 6oz bag though is criminal. I could get almost 2 gallons of refined, dead dinosaur juice for that price.
I get the point but oil (and it’s distillates) doesn’t come from dead dinosaurs
Cute euphemism though -- got a giggle out of me...
Load More Replies...It’s a bad for you snack that tries to emulate onion rings.
Load More Replies...Acrylic Nails. I miss having them but omg
Honestly, some of us cannot. I have suffered nail bed damage in High school due to a reaction between nail glue (Had them done for a dance) and darkroom chemicals. It ate my nails away to the nail bed being left open and raw. Took a year just to grow in enough to cover the bed. Now, my nails don’t grow beyond the tip of the nail bed. It’s been 36 years so I don’t hope for improvement. But I also cannot afford artificial nails so I have man hands for life. And some men I know have prettier nails than mine.
Load More Replies...I feel this pain. It used to be $20-25, maybe $30 if you wanted intricate designs. I’m routinely paying over $100 every 3 weeks for this s**t. Plus tip.
Oh ikr!! Now it costs more for a fill in than I used to pay for a full set
drug stores sell home kits. $20 bucks for several manicures if you have the time/steady hand to do it
The thing that worries me most is the people that blame Biden for inflation (as if he, alone, controls the economy) and think that Trump can make things all better (they’re already getting better, btw). You think things are bad now? Just wait until you see how bad it can get under a fascist, maliciously corrupt government.
Presidents always take blame/credit for things they had nothing/little to do with.
Load More Replies...So many of these utterly fail to give any sort of comparison. Yes, everything's more expensive than it was, it's the way of the world, and those of us with longer memories can recall when annual inflation of 10% or more was the norm. Year after year after year. If your earnings aren't at least keeping track with inflation then I'm sorry for you; maybe people have forgotten that you need have inflation-related salary increases every year?
As it should be. The actual prices doesn't even slightly cover the environmental damage it causes.
Load More Replies...Deli meat. $12.99/lb for deli ham! Yet it was $0.89 for a spiral ham for Christmas. Guess who spent an extra $8 and got a second ham to slice for sandwiches later!
$14.50 a pound for turkey. I remember when it was like $6 a pound and that wasn’t really that long ago.
Load More Replies...Comics (magazines). I used to read them all the time as a kid but while I still enjoy it, they're not worth the price compared to the 20-30 minutes they last.
for comics its often cheaper to buy the trades/TPB if the series has them. Not always, but often. Like in my country single issues are around AU$8. But a TPB is around AU$30 and it collects 5 issues. So its ~$AU10 cheaper. Still expensive imo for what it is, but a cheaper option if someone really wants to read a series.
Load More Replies...Where the heck are some of these people shopping? $10 for a microwave meal? Yeah, they jumped by about 30% since COVID started, but, even the premium ones aren't even $6 (not that I'll spend that on one).
Stores can vary in price depending on the local competition. Many Americans live tens of miles from the nearest store, so that store knows that they can charge whatever they like for the food and people have no choice. In areas with greater competition, the prices are lower.
Load More Replies...90% of the reason prices go up is because of the increase of money into the money supply. Every time the Federal government inserts more money into the economy, that drives the worth of those dollars down. Inflation is what's called the "Unseen Tax",
Haircuts. $25-30 plus tip. For an older man with thinning hair. On the bright side, the more hair you lose, the more head you get...
American tipping culture. Never ever tipped my barber, never ever expected. They make without tip nice money though (Slovakia). Only place i tip is restaurant and only if i was satisfied with the service and food.
Load More Replies...The thing that worries me most is the people that blame Biden for inflation (as if he, alone, controls the economy) and think that Trump can make things all better (they’re already getting better, btw). You think things are bad now? Just wait until you see how bad it can get under a fascist, maliciously corrupt government.
Presidents always take blame/credit for things they had nothing/little to do with.
Load More Replies...So many of these utterly fail to give any sort of comparison. Yes, everything's more expensive than it was, it's the way of the world, and those of us with longer memories can recall when annual inflation of 10% or more was the norm. Year after year after year. If your earnings aren't at least keeping track with inflation then I'm sorry for you; maybe people have forgotten that you need have inflation-related salary increases every year?
As it should be. The actual prices doesn't even slightly cover the environmental damage it causes.
Load More Replies...Deli meat. $12.99/lb for deli ham! Yet it was $0.89 for a spiral ham for Christmas. Guess who spent an extra $8 and got a second ham to slice for sandwiches later!
$14.50 a pound for turkey. I remember when it was like $6 a pound and that wasn’t really that long ago.
Load More Replies...Comics (magazines). I used to read them all the time as a kid but while I still enjoy it, they're not worth the price compared to the 20-30 minutes they last.
for comics its often cheaper to buy the trades/TPB if the series has them. Not always, but often. Like in my country single issues are around AU$8. But a TPB is around AU$30 and it collects 5 issues. So its ~$AU10 cheaper. Still expensive imo for what it is, but a cheaper option if someone really wants to read a series.
Load More Replies...Where the heck are some of these people shopping? $10 for a microwave meal? Yeah, they jumped by about 30% since COVID started, but, even the premium ones aren't even $6 (not that I'll spend that on one).
Stores can vary in price depending on the local competition. Many Americans live tens of miles from the nearest store, so that store knows that they can charge whatever they like for the food and people have no choice. In areas with greater competition, the prices are lower.
Load More Replies...90% of the reason prices go up is because of the increase of money into the money supply. Every time the Federal government inserts more money into the economy, that drives the worth of those dollars down. Inflation is what's called the "Unseen Tax",
Haircuts. $25-30 plus tip. For an older man with thinning hair. On the bright side, the more hair you lose, the more head you get...
American tipping culture. Never ever tipped my barber, never ever expected. They make without tip nice money though (Slovakia). Only place i tip is restaurant and only if i was satisfied with the service and food.
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