Most of us have no idea what it’s like to be wealthy, but I imagine the life of the extremely rich to be a little something like this: purchasing the fanciest vegan products at the store without even glancing at the price tag, snagging that expensive vintage coat you’ve been eyeing online without a second thought, attending every festival and concert you like because money is no object, and owning a home or apartment that actually has a dishwasher. Okay, maybe those are just the things I would do if I had all the money in the world, but there’s nothing wrong with dreaming, right?
Unfortunately, it’s a two-way street, and most rich people have no idea what it’s like to be middle class or poor either. Because of this, affluent people have a tendency to ruin things for the rest of us. One curious Reddit user reached out last week asking for examples of things that rich people have ruined, and readers did not hold back.
Below, you’ll find a list of some of these things that just aren’t as fun or as accessible as they used to be, so be sure to upvote any of the responses you wholeheartedly agree with. Let us know in the comments if anything else has been ruined for you by the upper class, and then if you’re interested in checking out another Bored Panda article that might make you want to eat the rich, look no further than right here!
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Big corporations are a disease, true, but I don't think we can lay this on the rich entirely.
Agreed. The rich didn’t compel folk to buy c**p they don’t need and then discard it. They didn’t compel people to buy three cars. They didn’t compel folk to buy groceries like they’re feeding an army only to have a lot of it spoil. They didn’t force people across the globe to breed like rabbits. They may have had a hand in convincing us we needed all of these things(?), but ultimately every human has contributed in part; deliberately or not. The rich and their private jets burn a lot of fuel, sure, but that cannot compare to the foot print of the 99%. Humans are a disease. But take heart! Earth may become uninhabitable for humans, and her resources become more and more scarce, but Earth will be fine and recover just fine once we’re gone. So don’t lament for Earth; lament what we leave for our progeny.
Load More Replies...This was ruined by people. Just in general. Even if the rich weren't ruining it with pollution from their factories and unsafe practices, just drive down a road. People litter everywhere even where they live. I don't understand. Just keep it in your car and throw it in a trash can. They also over hunt and fish just to get a trophy.
Without factories think of all the things people would be trying to make on their own! That's not very earth friendly either.
Load More Replies...They can do so much with what they have. .. so much more can be done...
The WEF wants everyone to have a chip and access to your health vitals... F**k the Rich
Poorer people -those struggling to survive- don’t have the bandwidth to care about the environment nearly as much as richer people. Wealth is required to allow a level of environmental care.
The easy answer: Everything. The harder answer: Interclass solidarity and quality of life. They've worked so hard to separate the have-nots into their own little groups, we're too busy fighting each other instead of taking the fight, politically speaking, to the rich and the 1 percent. You have more in common with your fellow man than you EVER will with a Bill Gates or Elon Musk.
Of course the more the "elite" can keep us divided and arguing with each other (ie political parties, religion, you name it), the less we're likely to rise up and demand some fairness from them. They may be rich, but they're not stupid.
To be fair, Bill gates has done a C**P TON with his money. Donations, research, medical facilities...
I don't think Bill Gates has much common with Elon Musk - apart the money.
I never understood this mentality. I prefer to share the wealth, bring others up, stop some from falling. Success should be measured on how everyone around you is doing, not how far above everyone else you are.
Everytime we try to get the rich to pay higher tax they come out with commercials that make us think our taxes will be raised if xyz gets passed or if x gets elected
Yessssssss!!!!! Instead of going, "Oh hell naw, you can't blame us for being poor and then withhold everything!" We are all going, "THE LAST MELON!!!"
RENTING
The over abundance of air bnbs and $2000 studio apartments in rural/suburban places is outrageous and ruining the possibility for low income and working class people to have a roof over their heads. I live in New York State, and ever since covid all these city richies are buying up all the cheap places in the country to try and make a profit - as if they need any more money!
I stay in a run down, small, noisy apartment because the alternative is getting a second job to rent a better living space that I'd hardly ever get to be in to afford.
Yep, you have them buying up entire neighborhoods of housing that people would normally be able to buy just to rent them out at crazy high rates.
We have new developments being built in Florida, entire neighborhoods, and every single house is being purchased from management companies, some backed by Goldman Sachs, before they even break ground to be used as rentals to capitalize on the housing crisis.
Load More Replies...Don't need rich people to mess renting up. Just greedy landlords or slumlords.
Housing. We need to make owning more than 5 residential homes financially unviable. Being priced out of the shittest' apt. in the shittest' area is a problem and pretty much destabilizes communities.
Got priced out of our low income apartment. Now live in a camp ground. The trailer is fine but now it's tourist season and I'm loosing my mind
The building I live in was recently sold. The vacant units are now renting for $220 / month more than I am paying.
At least your rate is locked somehow? I've lost more than one apartment because of steep rent hikes like this
Load More Replies...I was shocked when I heard that you can invest in rent. There are companies that own office spaces and also living spaces and rent them out. Maybe your landlord is not the owner, but just employee... And those companies set the rent as they like... Not to mention what Louis Rossmann said about rent in NYC. Somebody is paying mortgage on huge building, trying to rent it for 500 dollars per square foot (or something like that) and he CANNOT RENT IT FOR LESS, because that would "lower building value" so he would have to pay part of the morgage from his own pocket. We are talking about 10 million payout or even more, so that guy cannot afford it, he has to try to get the crazy rent. But he can claim some of the lost money (not rented space) in tax returns... It sounds like really bad system that needs proper restart.
Environment. Ah yes I will just turn off the light in my living room when I'm not using it, I'm sure it will combat the billions of tonnes of co2 created by those private planes
The whole "greenwashing" thing is ridiculous, but the rebranding of blame to the consumers by those doing the damage to generate more profits is absolutely absurd.
I am not denying the truth of everything you said, but the “it’s all the corporations” is also not the full truth. The thing is that the sheer number of households means that what we change at home can have a huge impact if we all do it. Talking about “energy saving at home is worthless because we aren’t the problem” is akin to “my vote doesn’t matter because it is just one vote”. Every source of greenhouse gas needs to be scrutinized, and while I absolutely agree that corporations need to be held accountable the reality is that a household, a transportation method, a factory, even an essential service provider - they ALL need to reduce their usage whenever possible and support green energy. No, turning off one light isn’t going to fix anything but it isn’t one light. It is hundreds of millions, and we should keep that in mind while still fighting to defossilize our energy sources.
Load More Replies...Yes. But as it personally saves you money at the very least, why wouldn't you turn off lights you're not using? I mean that's a no brainer 🤷♀️ We all play our part but when it benefits someone financially personally it really is the thing to do. Ive done since I was a child and as the adult who pays the bill too. It's great for the planet too, the tiniest bit does make a difference.
It's not an either or situation. Companies could waste less for sure. Rich people flying private jets adds a lot for sure. But 8 billion people in the world using fewer resources also has an impact. I used to live near Denver Colorado and in the distance you could see these really long trains hauling tons and tons and tons of coal to a power plant. And they were DAILY trains. It found it a good visual of just how much our cumulative use adds up.
Again.. false blame.. the most CO2 created by thousands of economy planes that people take instead of trains for example..
Yeah.... my gas range did not set the Gulf of Mexico on fire, so I think I'll keep it and not feel one bit guilty about it.
not yours all by itself, Kitty Divine but yours and mine and millions of us together.. did you see what Dim T wrote?
Load More Replies...I personally don't care if someone does fly in a private plane. As the above post states, what I DO object to is them flying in a private plane while telling me that I can't because of the environment.
125 people are responsible for 90% of greenhouse emissions, keep believing the consumer garbage.
Load More Replies...This is not an either or. Collective impact of individual decisions rivals and usually vastly surpasses that of massive companies, not to mention individual rich people. The average American generated 280 pounds of plastic waste per year. Multiply that by 1 thousand or 1 million and suddenly the amounts are staggering. Now if they produced 20 pounds less, and you also multiply that by 1 million and suddenly you start to see the collective impact of individual decisions This isn't an either or. And after all, any benefit is a net good. Trying to make it seem like ones actions have no impact is just an excuse to moralise doing nothing and continuing the same destructive behaviour
More like the carbon emissions coming from Chinese sweatshops that make more than someone's plane in a lifetime in about a week.
Which produces clothing that the west gleefully gobbles up to wear once and then throw away.
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The middle class family’s ability to live comfortably on a single wage
Us working class have never afforded stay at home mothers. My Grandmothers both had jobs and I remember my Great Gran being a cleaner at my nursery. It's only now it's effecting the middle class that people are bothered.
Middle class been getting demolished since the 80s. All thanks to outsourcing among other factors.
Load More Replies...My grandmother worked all her life from the age of 14 when she was a kitchen maid. She ended her career as a nutritionist and meal planner for the local county council. She even worked when my dad was a baby in WW2
I've worked since I was 14, under the table until I was 15. I was told what a privilege it was. Guess what, I'm still f*****g poor.
Load More Replies...Being jealous of the ones that were working to help each other to achieve a better living situation is what happened due to a—hats saying that unions hurt the middle class. Boy how people fed into that one. Right to work has shrunk the wages of all. The most precious commodity a business has is not the owners taking credit for others work and ideas, management that is clueless but the experienced workers who are leaving so jealous little no nothings can take their place. Three lazy people still can’t match what I did in one day on my job. Glad I suffered through saving and retired so they can have it since they know so much. F Them
middle class is no longer the middle class. a Hard working blue collar guy cannot earn enough anymore for his wife to stay home. Not unless you're a professional and making 100K or more in most places to be able to even entertain that possibility.
Blue collar is classed as working class in the UK. Middle class would be "professionals" and above.
Load More Replies...I definitely felt the middle class effect as a kid in the 90s. And was very fortunate to have my grandmother who barely spoke English take care of us. But post 9/11 and two degrees later here I am struggling even with a 100k salary and expensive a*s child care. Middle class is def getting rekt.
Nah this was never really much of thing. Only for a very small precentage of people and for a very brief period of time after ww2 (for specifically the way we picture it now) . And only in a miniscule handful of places. And it wasn't motivated by economics it was motivated by sexism. And deliberate sexism at that as there was a specific aim to scale back the gains women had made in the working field during ww2 and counteract the we can do it narrative after ww2. Even in the 60s more than 50% of women in American worked. By the wat before that there was literally bans on married women working. And it was legal to pay men more especially marries men for ages after. All of this has nothing to do with rich people or economics and everything to do with sexism and denying economic engagement to women. After all its not a single womans income nor stay at home father/parent . Its a single mans income and stay at home mother. Tldr: this isn't about rich people or economics its about sexism
Equal pay was brought in after a series of union actions (govts give nothing and this is why unions are a necessity) But in the decades to follow instead if women's wages going up to meet men's it was the other way round. Now both parents must work to provide the same level of income that a man's wage would've back then. This is the perfect example of a good thing (equality law) being ruined by rich people to the very real detriment of everyone who isn't rich..
Music festivals….used to be a bunch of hippies having a good time and doing drugs. Now its rich kids taking selfies dressed as hippies and doing drugs.
Sadly accurate. A big part of why I've shifted to working events; now I'm at least being paid to be there, I know when the specific shows are that I don't want to miss (and often have backstage access), and more often than not the pre/post parties for crew are a lot more fun than the ticketed thing people buy into
People have ruined concerts just in general. People who can't stay off their phones even while at a concert or who won't shut up while the music is playing. Getting drunk or sick because they' can't hold their liquor/drugs. People who litter everywhere. Some people will literally pee wherever because they don't want to walk to the toilet areas. Even indoor concerts have gotten annoying. And talk about rich people ruining it... ticket prices are ridiculous. Unless you can actually sit in the first 10 rows or so, it's honestly not worth even going. I don't understand paying good money to not even be able to see the performer. You end up having to watch the screens anyway, so just do it from home on youtube and save yourself money. I mean, going is a nice experience once or twice but I can't see justifying the expense to watch a- sometimes bad- performance and not even really be able to see it. Nevermind the traffic trying to get out.
Load More Replies...Yep - festivals used to have a great “we’re all in this together” no matter whether it’s sunny or muddy. Now as they’ve become a “place to be seen” by people who would never have dreamt of roughing it in a 3 man tent with the rest of us back in the day, they start demanding special treatment, “Glamping”, Champagne bars and all manner of other mod cons that miss the entire point of a f*****g festival in the first place - Music (& drugs! 🙂)
we experience that every year at Festivals in germany. getting woken up by "Guten Morgen sonnemschein" blasting at 5AM after Fallingbostel asleep at 4AM. it still happens.
Load More Replies...I know you're right! Just when I could finally spring for front row seats in a very small venue to see my favorite 90's band, and I forgot all the VIP section. With this tall elitist bîtch standing the entire concert, recording them on her phone from right in front of me 😔, with me being 5'1" and disabled, was just stuck. Grateful they moved around a lot on stage though and came out through the entire venue. They always have been very active with their fans so that's always super nice.
Load More Replies...This! The parent company that owns Coachella gives a bucket of money to right-wing causes that directly contradicts what Coachella advertises.
Maybe the big trendy ones like Coachella. But there are still plenty of great, laid back festivals. I personally love Nelson's ledges in Ohio. It's just several small 3 day shows with hippies just hanging out having a good time... and doing drugs of course. That will never change. The only thing that really has changed is the hippie movement went mainstream. It's not just a counter culture movement or a niche group anymore as more people have realized that just wanting to have a good time and not get so wrapped up in the commercial lifestyle or, at the very least, step away from it for a weekend isn't that crazy or proof you are some kind of delinquent.
disagree with this one, because its basically just the big "festivals" who turn into a fashion/instagrammer event like coachella. we have Tons and Tons of amazing festivals in europe that might have gotten commercial but didnt turn into influencer Events. people keep complaining about concerts too and i strongly advise you to maybe go somewhere other than mainstream gigs because thats where the sh*tshows happen...
Billy Talent 50 bucks ❤️ Avril Lavigne 50 bucks ❤️ Zebrahead 29 bucks ❤️ Andre Rieu 90 bucks ❤️
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Every single piece of water with accessible waterfronts.
Bonus points for privately owned water-front properties on public waterfronts trying to close off public access points.
Seems like every bit of coastline has some right of access drama.
Load More Replies...I grew up on the southern shore of Lake Superior. No, not ruined. I moved to Rwanda, but when I'm home and back at the Lake, there isn't anybody there. There have been companies who have tried to develop, but haven't been able to - thank God.
Except the Oregon Coast! It is illegal to have a private beach on the coast in Oregon. The entire coastline is public land!
I got one for you. I used to live near the beach. This uptight jerk built a beachfront house that blocked off the ONLY access to an isolated public beach. The only pathway to the beach is through what is now his private property. The city tried to negotiate with him,to allow people to use the path to the beach, but he refused to budge. The public has now been unable to use the beach for the last 10 years.
I recently found a small home on a lake well below market to live in full time. I live in a fixed budget. Anyway the place near us was not fabulous but nice. A buyer from out of town purchased it for full price then bulldozed it down and built a massive ugle home which they use a few days a year. Why? To them its like throwing away an old shirt. The economy of scale in weather is so vastly different that they have no concept of the waste of impact on others.
This is so true. Where I grew up. Every public camping space on the rivers and lakes was purchased by the rich, even a beautiful blue hole. The saddest part, the latter was gated off from their home property so nature just reclaimed access. One place, they moved an old Soldiers Graveyard to make room on the waterfront for houses that all look the same. Sad.
Yes! When I was looking for a good olace to paint at the edge of Flathead Lake in Montana, there were only a very few public access points around it's edges. The rest was all private, big houses. When I drove down one road to the shore a couple guys stopped talking to watch me. I had a strong feeling that if I stopped they wouid be kicking me out in about a second.
College. The rich killed the market price for low income students, then gutted tuition assistance programs and turned them into for profit loan sharking.
plenty of affordable college options, not everyone chooses to go a 50k a year college with huge debt. Average public college in the US in 11k a year, my alma mater is 7100 right now. But you can go to well ranked private universities (Private is still Non for profit, for non-Americans, like Harvard or Stanford) that are affordable. In NYC there is one, that is 18k a year undergrad with priority admittance to any of their grad schools which includes 5 Medical Schools in 3 states, a law school, social work, etc. And offer fast track options. People are bamboozled into viewing college as an "experience" and paying 50k a year for the high priced option, when you should view it as training for professional life, and take the no frills option that educates you just as well, minus the elitism.
Thank you Governor Reagan. With some assist from College Sports programs.
Actually government interference inflated the market price to where it is today
Actually the government made loans available and the colleges/universities abused the system and raised prices.
Load More Replies...No employer has ever asked to see my two degrees. Just self-learn at a library.
Theme parks.
Gone are the days when everyone was equal and you all had to queue, regardless of your income. And even until recently some theme parks gave fast passes periodically throughout the day. Now if you've got deep pockets you can queue jump, making your day a little better and everyone else's a little worse.
Awful? Yes. Realistic and accurate lesson? Also yes, unfortunately. It sucks but if you're rich there is no place on earth you don't get special treatment
Load More Replies..."Screw this, I'll make my own theme park! With flapjacks! And hookers!" - Bender
How long will it be before you learn that people with more money than you are better than you, and deserve more? Ask any republican if you don't believe me.
Generalizing like that helps no one. Not all Republicans are like that.
Load More Replies...I am Disney"d out. Last time I went was five years ago and the crowds and lines were awful. Prices? Through the roof! Will be happy to never go again.
Or hire a handicapped person to speed through. Yes, it is that gross.
Jeans. Used to be cheap, durable, wear them for years doing hard labor. Now they’re expensive, poor quality and come made with holes already in them, to ape the aesthetic of the working class.
I was shopping in a name-brand jeans store and the guy pulled out one ripped pair of jeans after another to show me. Finally I said "Look at me! I'm a 65 year old grandma. Do you really think that's what I need?"
Exactly!! I'm 57 and the same. I want a pair of blue jeans that fit ON my waist and my butt - not UP my butt - and are not skin tight or ballooned to my legs. Does anyone make those?
Load More Replies...I refuse to buy jeans with holes, either for myself or my children. Why buy something that is so obviously designed to be less durable? I don't mind wearing jeans with holes, but I'll make them myself thanks.
Don't get me started on plus sizes. I have no problem paying more for my size. Logically I should as I'm using more materials. But the disparity is really crazy. $80-200 for a single pair of jeans with holes in the knees from a plus sized store. These are not special jeans. They are not magic jeans. They are not made of gold. Just basic b!tch jeans. These days I shop on old navy for pants exclusively because at least they're more reasonable and sometimes even have great sales.
I was looking to replace my worn /holes in them jeans. I looked at one place that had jeans that looked a lot like mine selling for 125 dollars. I kept my jeans.
Why people want to look like they just survived a bear attack is beyond me. LOL!
I get cheap jeans at Sam's Club. They're the only ones that fit me, no rips, well made. My hubby too.
Housing - used to be the only people buying houses were those that were intending to live in them. Now you have rich people looking into investing in real estate, and guess what rich houses are poor investments. So rich people are buying up all the affordable housing driving up the price and creating scarcity.
Yes. Not only that but the costs are so high, especially in cities, that the people living there are moving to 1-3 hours away and commuting to work. It used to be hard to do that but now with podcasts and technology to listen to you fav music, etc, it's made a long drive more bearable so more people are willing to do it. This is causing landlords in our areas to hike up rent, too. An area that was reasonably priced for the average income bracket before is now completely out of budget for the people actually living there. There really needs to be some kind of rent regulations based on the type/condition of the building and area to stop people from other places in the state from taking our living options because they can't afford theirs.
I don't care how much it costs, I refuse to conform to car dependence.
Load More Replies...The only people I knew with rental properties were people who already had a house then were left one as part of an inheritance, or blended families that both sides already owned their own homes, and they'd move in to one and rent the other out. No one purchased a house to rent out.
I noticed also a change in living standards. We're told by investment sharks, that studio apartments are appealing and that cooking in your living room-kitchen is fancy... While thry are just interested in cramping as many people as possible in their condos... No, I don't like the smell of rotisserie chicken intruding my couch and carpets... And I hate the idea that I'm unable to close the door between me and my partner. I wonder how many relationships broke because of crammed living-conditions? Escape room without escape...
Counterpoint, some people actually do benefit from a modest floorplan and don't value the wastefulness associated with outsized living. Are these marketing methods questionable? Sure, but the problem we're running into is that only corporations have the clout to make these big developments because people work against their own interests when they make decisions as individuals without being able to see the bigger picture. The truth is that these kinds of developments create housing, which can help reduce housing pressure on the people that don't want to live in that kind of housing. Now if only there was a limit to the amount of low density residential that could be owned by a person or corporation, that's a start.
Load More Replies...This is a prime example of people commenting who actually understand very little. Funny how someone who can barely pay rent somehow believes they have this all encompassing knowledge they really don't have. News flash if you knew 10% of what you think you do, you would be earning significantly more than you do now.
Asinine. Keep punching down in your own mind. A person's job in life isn't just to earn and hopefully you learn that someday.
Load More Replies...The only reason rich people have been able to exploit the housing market is because we don't build enough of them. Every year 2 million people move to this country. That's 500,000 extra houses - every year. Every year people get divorced or breakup or move out of their parents house. That's more houses - about 300,000 every year. Every year we have floods and fires and earthquakes and hurricanes lose about another 300,000 houses each year. This has been going on for decades and we'be only been building half the number of houses we need. Yes, when you add 80 million people in 30 years and don't build the housing and infrastructure for those people there are consequences.
Concerts….. you can’t even buy a beer at one for what a general admission ticket used to cost and people still pay for it
It was only $10 Cdn to see a good rock concert at Maple Leaf Gardens back in the day(1980's). Now ppl are paying $300 for nose bleeder seats.
I paid 20 bucks back in the 80's to watch Guns N' Roses OPEN for Motley Crue. I haven't been to a concert in this millennium. To much money for not enough fun.
Is this for a front row seat or….? Just curious
Load More Replies...Saw The Beatles, August 27,1964 at Cincinnati Gardens. Best seats were $5.50. Jackie DeShannon and the Righteous Brothers were opening act.
I wish I had been your friend and gone with you!!
Load More Replies...I still have my ticket for when I saw Queen in Boston in 1977. The price? $7.50.And we had great seats!!
I saw beer for $22 at Canada Life Centre (or True North Centre, whatever you want to call it.). Apparently it's a lot more during hockey games. I paid $100 for decent seats to see The Offspring, hoping most of the concert was that band. Instead spent the first half watching Simple Plan. I knew they were playing but "featured". Yeah... it was my first concert.
Young adult me never made it to any "real" concerts due to traveling the world in the navy and afterwards just trying to get by for some years. Older retired me has time to go to concerts but then I hear the ticket prices and think "Holy c**p! I could buy a TV and a home theater sound system for that much.
Cheap foods - donuts, cupcakes, hamburgers, wings - that have all been given the "foodie" treatment and went from good cheap eats to gourmet pricing without a corresponding increase in quality.
Yes. I am a huge foodie but I totally agree that it's gotten ridiculous. I always think of the Crème Fraiche ep of South Park when talking about this, lol. I was watching top chef and one of the judges told the contestant to stop trying to impress them with technique. And the contestant was like, "I don't know what you want," and the judge said "just make your food taste good and we don't care how you got there. Technique is important but not at the expense of taste," and the contestant looked at him like he had no idea what he was talking about. These chefs are being forced to make 'picture' food for so long in order to justify price hikes and attract the pinterest/instagram crowd that they've forgotten to just make it taste good. Stop making everything gourmet. There's a reason Chinese take out and fast food are billion dollar industries and it's because it's delicious, relatively cheap and decidedly unfancy.
I disagree, food has become incredibly cheap. Too cheap in fact to be sustainable. We have just been eating on borrowed value to yield. If you are referring to how cheap food was in the past, there were reasons. Exploitation of animals, people & land, run for market share, etc. Still if you want cheap food, then dont go for the "foodie" places, but then dont complain that you will get low grade food. Or cook yourself, nothing beats that value to quality ratio.
The unhealthy stuff has become too cheap. The actual food that is good for you is waaay to expensive.
Load More Replies...maybe you may try REAL FOOD, slow food, non-packaged food, home made food. tastes even better, costs way less.
Yeah. I can't afford to go out to eat anymore. It's such a bummer. Going out to eat was one of the few indulgences I allowed myself. I don't even buy coffee from coffee shops now. Too expensive.
Some of these places charge a arm and leg for a meal then one gets home and it's plum garbage! Either cold, special order messed up, or both. They should always make sure for the prices nowadays that one's order is 100% correct! No cold nothing!
Yeh never understand how people can pay £4/5 for a single donut wen can get a whole pack from the supermarket for £1
Our chances of avoiding catastrophic climate change.
The worst part is that they are largely responsible for ruining the planet, and the best equipped to survive the apocalypse. I imagine they already have underground mansions with their own ecosystems where they can hide while the rest of us burn or drown.
Sorry, but the average person won't inconvenience themselves for anything until they're forced to do so. It's gonna happen, and nobody can predict how it will turn out. Future generations will curse us, I'm afraid.
Nah. Sure the rich are more to blame than the average person but we all contributed and contribute to this. Look at how many poor and middle class people are against environmental regulations. Look at climate changes deniers. Look at how your own lifestyle itself damages the environment and rewards the people and corporations damaging the environment Yes others have more blame than us. But we don't get to squirrel away from this. We are to blame as well
This should be higher. Either in first place or second place, under "Earth". Though they're not always rich. Sometimes they're just ignorant. For example the big truck, coal rollers in the US; maliciously blocking EV charging stations. Seriously though what stake do you hold in the oil market??? Or are you more invested in just being a******s & slowing down progress? How about, at the bare minimum, you do you & let others be themselves.
Climate change is not an issue it's a natural occurrence folks read the real science not the Made up DEMORAT B******T......
Democracy.
Democracy was never intended to be for the masses. In ancient Greece only upper class males vould vote. It remained this way for most countries until the late 1800's. For instance, it wasn't until the 1800's working class could vote in the UK and then decades further for women. There was a brief period there where something like true democracy was achieved but politicians then got too greedy and politics became the domain of self serving twats again.
To be fair, those upper class males were expected to be representing their families or clans. This system was riddled with flaws, as many who voted represented nothing more than their own greed. The family structure, and it's extended versions, were the foundations under ideal circumstances.
Load More Replies...The presidency is literally bought in the USA. $8 billion dollars was spent on one set in Georgia this year. $8 billion. WTF?Only the rich can play. They protect each other and there are NO consequence for their actions. The supreme court allows compus to be "people" so vast amount of special interest money can sway the vote to support what they want.
Read "Democracy is a Discussion." It exists, but also doesn't. It's not like it's a complete hoax - I'm a woman, I can vote, I can work, I can have a bank account... but I also see the holes in the system. Critical thinking. I was taught critical thinking in my very limited space. If we lose that, we lose everything, including what we call democracy.
Democracy is a decision making system that only works if people participating in it are both educated and informed to make proper decisions, it is also the only system that can (democratically) destroy itself. With the increasing class difference, lower classes that are also majority are both undereducated and misinformed, so no wonder democracy is malfunctioning.
My country claims to have this. We are ruled from afar and our laws made by us can be taken away without our say so. Those who rule from afar 'appoint' people to serve for life in one of their parliaments. There is a hereditary leader and this is based on religion. This sucks, we need to get independence..
There used to be a really nice big park in the center of the city where I live. Everyone would go there, it was a nice open space, take your kids, take your dogs, enjoy the fresh air. Then some people from the rich part of town along the edges of the park decided they didn't like the noise coming from the park and pulled some b******t to buy it out and walled it off so you couldn't go to the park unless you lived in that specific neighborhood anymore. The worst part is a ton of money was spent when they first bought it building it up, adding fountains and childrens play areas and redoing the flower beds, and then no money or attention was given to it again and the whole place feel into disrepair so now even if you live in the neighborhood you can't go there because everything is falling apart and over grown. So the aasholes took the really nice park from everyone else and then neglected it until it became a s**t hole in the middle of the city
In My mom's home town the opposite happened. A family built a play area in their very large back yard. Kids kept coming over to play with their kids. Over the years it became a bit of a hidden gem. When the kids moved out the parents donated the park and an access strip off land to the city so it is now a public park. The family still lives there and are incredibly nice and love having the park used.
Grandparents bought a house in a neighborhood that was designed with a park in the middle. It's U-shaped. Park in the middle, houses around it, street, houses on the other side of the street. For decades, people just walked between the houses and into the park. The inner houses started putting up fences. After about 20 years, all the inner houses had fences up connected to each other with no way between them into the park. They all had their own gate into the park from their back yard. Two houses at the bottom of the U had a staircase leading into the park which had been put in by the first owners. That was considered the only official entrance. The new owners put a fence panel in front of the stairs. A few law suits later, the panel is removed and the inner houses were fined for not leaving the required space between fences for rescue services.
My friend lives in town, where's "rich people area". There's lovely valley with grove and pond where people went on a walk or relaxed, and the land was not intended to build houses. Then some rich a******s bought whole area, build their houses there, and grove and pond is now accessible only for them. Well, jokes on them, this area is in a flood zone, and after some dry years, a flood came and they ended up wading in waist-deep water.
It's not fenced to keep the public out, but Assiniboine Park in Winnipeg used to be one of the biggest and best parks to go for picnics, grab an ice cream at the pavilion, go see the tropical plants in the conservatory. The Zoo there used to be dirt cheap. Be able to get the family in under $10. The English Gardens were open to everyone for free. Now there's a bar area near the duck pond, a constantly reserved cafe, the pavilion is now a high end restaurant, and parts of the English Gardens are not free, and the zoo is crazy expensive, like $25 for one person to get in after tax, and hardly anyone is seen setting up blankets and throwing frisbee like they used to in the grassy fields. There's a new stage area, and events block off much of that section of the park. It's just not the same.
Food trucks used to be a way to get good food for cheap, now it's a premium without any of the advantages of a restaurant. Not to mention that they all expect a 20% tip for handing you food from a window.
Tipping a food truck always gives my angst. I don't think I should have to tip the owner and I am not sure the workers, if any, are getting my tip.
I don't tip the food truck, nor do I tip the drive thru window. Tipping has gone too far.
Load More Replies...Then there's food trucks at conventions. They only have 3 things on the menu but get away with charging £8 for a small portion of chips because "its a venue".
It's often not the trucks....it's because the venue charges them a premium to be there...and unfortunately, they have to pass that cost on to the customer. 😢
Load More Replies...You’re supposed to tip a food truck? I did not know that. I assumed they were mobile fast foid joints and paid the actual price. Now I don’t know if I’ll ever use one again.
Some trucks are fast-food quality "roach coaches"....some are gourmet, with chefs who are truly passionate about food. Tip if you feel they've gone above and beyond or the food was phenomenal. Otherwise...don't worry about it! ❤️
Load More Replies...Not to mention the exorbitant cost to the food truck owner. Years ago it was a relatively inexpensive option for people who couldn't afford to open a restaurant but now with the ridiculous taxing/permit fees/licensing it's more expensive than opening a brick and mortar. A used rig will cost you upwards of 100K and with gas prices most owners are just parking them. You can't even drive around with them now. I was planning on doing this myself and I found it was almost impossible to get it off the ground and even if you do, you need a permit to sell literally anywhere. So you can't just drive to any state or city. Permits take so much time to get. It's not like the movie 'Chef' where they just drove around and he magically had a permit ready. Plus you have to rent space to store bulky items as you can't keep them in the truck for space and weight issues. You might as well lease a building and put in a walk up window and save yourself a ton of money.
I'm not seeing how the food truck workers are viewed separately than a restaurant as far as "tipping going too far." They don't do any less than a small restaurant does and they aren't allowed to just park anywhere and start serving. A lot of city ordinances make it so difficult it's debatably not worth pursuing.
Right? There's usually a tip jar & I'll throw in a buck or two, but DAMN, it's not like you had to walk out of the kitchen ALL the way over to my table.
Old school ski mountains with family vibes and stoner lifties rocking to music. We always watched those silly “ski patrol” movies about the big corporations coming in and making them yuppyville and then it happened…
Our local hill used to have a lifty that would occasionally run around on all fours and bark like a dog. Kids thought it was hilarious. Got a new board and ethic and they were not amused. Fired him.
Never been skiing. Always too poor. I never saw snow in person until I was 17.
Living near the coast used to be a poor people thing a long time ago.
I didn't actually know that. I've always assumed living near water is a rich people thing.
An old man informed me once of the reasons. Roading. Before good roads the wealthy lived nearer or in the towns. Too hard to get to & from the coast. So coastal property was the cheapest. Opposite these days of course.
Load More Replies...In Maine, you used to be able walk the beaches, then the rich went to court and now the owners own the land all the way to the low tide mark, thereby preventing anyone from messing up their ocean view.
When I was little, for a time we lived in a duplex right by the beach. Little boy me could walk down a short trail to the tidepools. That was Santa Cruz California in the 60s and the reason we rented there is because we were poor and it was affordable. I'm guessing that piece of real estate is now prime and expensive.
Yes,and lobsters and crabs were garbage and were caught to feed to prisons,asylums and the poor. We own a small piece of land in Wells Maine. It’s in a quiet condo park. My husband purchased the spot for $10,000 in 1985. The spot is 50 feet long and 35 feet wide. We have a beautiful park home on the spot. The condo park is about a half mile from the beach. You can drive walk or bike. We plan on selling it in a couple of years,for retirement. As said, we’re a half mile from the beach.The real estate folks have already said we can easily get $350,00,a half mile from the beach The houses up on the shore are just incredible. They get bigger and bigger every year! They are all owned by out of state people. None of the house price tags are under a million. Then you have the plot of land,it sits on,and how close you are to the ocean.Which is feet away usually…Those properties start at $10 to 15 million….
I grew up on the "poor" side of town, a block from the beach. Great place, though, for families and fun. Now the houses go for $1M plus, and they don't look much different. Oh, and the pretty shoreline is all taken up by condos now.
Sandbanks UK used to be bungalows for retirees. Now it is an enclave of multi million pound houses.
Don't worry. One tidal wave and it's all gone. Mother nature is no respecter of persons.
Ah, yes... Mother nature sure showed all those yuppies in NO with hurricane Katrina.
Load More Replies...Yes that's when I bought, now I'm selling .. I'm going to be rich :)
I’m going to just say it, as it’s the season- Christmas! Corporations really did a number on Christmas. Plastic junky decorating starting as early as Halloween, REALLY dated irritating songs playing in every store starting November, all the consuming and now this ‘buy gifts for yourself’ narrative, the more you can ignore all this the more meaningful the holidays are.
100% agreed, it's a marked up tacky obligation. The most meaning I've found in it is to use the holiday as reason to go break bread and share supplies with our outdoor neighbors without seeming condescending and without the "law" interfering (and it's probably the most f****d up thing in wealth inequality that makes it illegal to feed the hungry)
I was talking about this with my daughter. We both feel nauseated with the amount of focus there is on the gifts and creating wish lists, like a unofficial registry of sorts. Meanwhile it's supposed to be spending time with family you don't get to see very often throughout the year. I like to go by the Pagan logic behind Christmas and decorate my tree with lights representing hope and comfort in knowing the dark days and cold winter will soon pass, allowing for rebirth and revitalization. Simple and fuss free. Really, anything I could want I can get myself or don't expect from others. We still give gifts but try to make it light and practical. Winter wear accessories, homemade cards, or something nice/fun/needed/yummy. Anything is appreciated. We don't tolerate entitled, greedy behaviour.
I heard about families who take a loan to buy expensive Christmas gifts. It's crazy.
I hate the “buy gifts for yourself” so much. Like, if you don’t have any family or friends I guess?? November-December I didn’t spend money on myself and it was great.
Just enjoy the lights and ignore the corporate bollocks. I have No living family anymore so I'm under no pressure from anyone and owe no obligation to anyone, and even if I had people around me, I wouldn't give in to such rubbish 😊 Gifts made especially for me have always been my favourite 💖
The American Dream Socioeconomic mobility has been completely perverted due to a “rigging of the system” by the ultra wealthy over the past few decades. When someone is born into poverty, now more than ever are they likely to stay impoverished. 400 families control more wealth in this country than the bottom 50% of Americans
We have re-created the middle ages feudal system. Why didn't we learn ??
The American dream: working 50 years of you'reprime to pay rent/mortgage while it increases yearly. and then take a couple years off when you're in the weakest of your times(60-70)
"There is a reason why it's called the American dream: You have to be asleep to believe it!" - George Carlin
The American dream is alive and well for those who are willing to work and sacrifice to live that dream. Too few are willing to work multiple jobs if needed and give up that daily Starbucks latte or latest smart phone or salon nails and fake hair or any of the things we could categorize as luxuries. You take care of the necessities first, and get the luxuries later. That.s how my parents taught me to do it, and I was able to get a masters degree, pat my student loans, and build a successful life. I worked a second job to do it and lived without the fast internet, smart phone, and cable tv among other things…but I have all of that now!
I think the point is NOBODY should HAVE to work more than one job to live! But I am glad you were successful.
Load More Replies...It is still there for those willing to unworkable hard and sacrifice to achieve it. Too many are unwilling to work multiple jobs while only having the “necessities” while doing without the latest smart phone or other “luxuries” in life.
The middle class
The republicans have gutted the middle class, starting with moving all the well paying blue collar jobs to China. That was just the beginning. It's taken a while to tear down what FDR and the Dems created, but they made it work. Now they're eyeballing Social Security and Medicaid. It may take time, but it took 'em 50 years to reverse Roe v Wade, and they kept at it until they pulled it off.
There is scarcely a middle class in the USA anymore. More and more, previously middle class families find themselves barely surviving with 2 to 3 jobs and face eviction. Pay attention, 1%ers! Not all homeless people are on drugs nor are they criminals.
*gestures at everything* EDIT: Thank you kind strangers for the awards.
I stopped going to professional sports because I can only afford s****y seats. Not worth the effort any more.
Or seeing all the empty seats because corporate bought the tickets and no-one would leave the hospitality bar.
Seriously, even the s****y' seats are becoming unaffordable. Quick story, I bought a last minute ticket to see a Padres-Cubs game down in SD for $30 (standing ticket) off a buddy. Got down there and it was packed, parking cost me $65 for the only available spot. Basically, you giving me a free ticket is essentially you giving me a $50-60 bill.
Yep. I used to go to San Francisco Giants games on a whim. Just randomly decide "Hey, there's a game today, let's go", $12-$15 a ticket for fairly good seats. Then...MLB introduced "dynamic pricing"..Now....even the crappy seats in the nosebleeds of left field (the worst seats at Oracle Park) are $50 or more, unless the Giants are playing a last place team nobody wants to see (and even then, it's still upwards of $30 for a crappy seat)
Depends on your country of origin I guess. Football (soccer * shudders* for our friends from across the Great Pond) tickets are still affordable in the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and France. At least, at the clubs I frequently visit and most of those are top flight clubs.
I used to take the family to watch Major League Baseball, but finally became tired of the exorbitant salaries the players were getting, because In the 'long game" we, the fans, were the ones actually paying their salaries via the increased ticket sales and prices at the concession stands. So, now we attend the Minor League games in and around our area, where we can enjoy at least three games for what it would cost for One MLB game ! And the best thing was seeing a Triple play the second time we went to a Minor League game, plus there are only 6k or 7k seats in the stadium and every single one has a great view, and best of all the players arent "full of themselves", maybe someday, but at least not now.
Whilst I would much rather watch from the comfort of home and getting the better angles close ups, it must be amazing to see them from the stands with the atmosphere of the crowds. Or rather it must have been if you can't afford to go anymore 😕
I used to have dreams of attending a figure skating competition at the Olympics.
theater- used to be the entertainment for the masses and now it's ridiculously expensive and inaccessible to most people.
Maybe if you only want to buy the best seat at a play with famous actors, in the biggest theatre in the city. Otherwise, not much more expensive than the cinema equivalent
In the UK cinema seat costs £11-15 depending on location. Theatre tickets cost £15-30 for limited view (I'm talking a physical pillar in your leg space) £40-50 for OK view and £65-80 for a good view.
Load More Replies...In community theater you can get tickets for like 10 dollars anywhere in the house and if you see the touring cast the cheapest tickets are like thirty dollars but iny opinion the sixty dollar ones in the founders circle are the best you just have to think is really a show I want to see and if it's not then don't waste your money.
The standard of living for everyone else.
I don't know if you know this, but there's more of us than there are of them. We could change things...
It’s called work and sacrifice for what you want without being so envious of what others have that you are willing to take from them (what they earned for themselves and their family) to somehow raise your standard of living .
They're typing out their angst and rage probably on a iPhone sipping a Starbucks whilst railing against big business. #clueless
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Collecting
In the past few years the price of little collectibles and things of that sort have gone insanely high. Cards, action figures, you name it, just look up any sub for a hobby and you'll see people dropping your entire salary in 1 day
Oh you still COULD spend a ton of money on it if you wanted ( buying from exotic locations, expensive tools etc) but you don't have to.
Load More Replies...I collect video games and consoles, and I used to be able to score really good deals at Goodwill. Now they're jacking prices up because shopping at thrift stores has become the "hip thing" for rich people to do...
Building kit models used to be something a kid could do on a small allowance. Now you have to save up for weeks to get the same quality and scarcer availability. What was $3 is now $40.
No this was always like thus, judt for different thungs. Stamls were always like tgis for example and so were baseball cards. And ita not rich ppl driving tbis but middle class ppl. Genuinely rich ppl don't collect stuff like action figures they collect paintings and such and are genuinely too few to make a dent in things as widely available as action figures
I know, right?!? All I want is a Voltron and I can't find one for less than $400.
Don't mention it, then it will become a thing and the rich will jump on the opportunity and start selling rocks at a high price amd people will fall for that.
Out of print books. Local shop, $5 to $30, online, $100 to $1,000. I cant even report them for price gouging because it's a speculative market. Internet Archive, Gutenberg Project, and everyone who converts books to ebooks, you are heroes.
Burning Man
B. O. and weirdos, i see that everyday here on the train
Load More Replies...It my dad has been going to Burning Man for 18 years, and this year he , and all if his camp for the last decade, all didn't go. They said it has become everything it was against. The did there own little thing close by, and actually had about 1000 people join them. Said it was the best time they had in a couple years.
It would be a pretty hilarious case of "small world" if I actually know your dad 😂 PDX is home base, been heavily involved in the regional burner things for over a decade. Lotsa good folks in that group!
Load More Replies...i hate that by the time i’m old enough to go, it’ll be filled with “influencers” pretending to have a good time
That already happened a while ago. Burning Man's "been done already." You'll still see them out there, like any other tourist destination, but there are far more folks who really are there to have a good time. Also, there are no age requirements
Load More Replies...Burning man is a huge joke/scam. Its destroying the playa. they leave so much trash and junk. It should have been shut down years ago.
Ugh.. I heard they did a thorough cleaning after and left it as it was without a trace.. But maybe that was a thing of the past.
Load More Replies...Glastonbury is so many levels above Burning Man - yet has never succumbed to the worst of corporate values. You can arrive with all the booze/drugs you like and walk in unimpeded as the vibe is still about the music as opposed to how much cash you can wring from the attendee.
Have never been to BM, kind of wanted to but bummed over stuff I read about it becoming more commercial. Still sounds interesting. Have attended reginal burning man events that had fewer people / art displays but I think did a good job of capturing the spirit of BM.
Not just commercial, but also hypocritical and elitist.
Load More Replies...I was there twice, a long time back, but I would never go there now. Besides, I couldn't afford to even if I wanted to.
The UK's economy... Or at this point the UK. Just...all of it... Send help/politicians who don't hate their people. Please.
Didn't help that the Brexiteers tricked people into voting for it. Where's Nigel now? He seems to have vanished. I was really sad to see the UK basically killing itself.
Well, to answer your question, Nigel (Farage) was the leader of a political party founded, initially, to retain the Pound (£) Sterling as UK currency, and subsequently to leave the EU. Would he not appear a touch foolish if he was still campaigning for those things today?
Load More Replies...Which is why a lot of Scotland keeps trying to leave. But they’re valuable to us so we won’t let them! Verminous race!
We're not valuable to you, North Sea oil and a place to park nuclear submarines so no English people are in danger from their presence is valuable to you.
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Video games. They've found a way to sell unfinished games while also maximizing microtransactions in some.
Some companies are better about this but the big ones are all about the money with as little effort as possible.
Early access games are a way for indie developers to continue working on their games until completion. There are some who take advantage but many awesome games were created in this way. Kerbal Space Program was one of them.
I don't buy that (pun not intended). The developers have just found a way to hold games hostage from customers until they pay up more. If you bought the game, you bought the game.
Load More Replies...Indie games of smaller studios are currently the best option to find quality
Gaming became a mainstream thing. That's what happened. No longer is it about making a great game for others to enjoy and for you to be proud of. Now its about maximum profit for little work. They now have to make shareholders happy not the customers.
I'm not buying Scarlet or Violet purely for this reason. I was so excited! Then it came out...
I just can't rationalize spending real money on something you can't use in real life. Like game points. You used to earn those while playing.
Same for every operating system and app! Half-assed products for which you have to pay for support!
I haven't played a video game since the days of pac-man so forgive my ignorance but... can you just not buy them? Or are these transactions something you're required to buy in order to finish the game? In that case it's totally unfair and I think one of the major game companies was getting sued for this. You already paid for the game you shouldn't be required to keep giving them money to play. But if they're additional add-ons or something like that...just don't buy them.
I haven't found many, but some games require payment to proceed in the story line. I think this is what OP is referring to. Some games will nickel and dime with "really good, cheap deals" that make progression easier on the player, though.
Load More Replies...Healthcare
I've just spent £400 for a weeks worth of antibiotics 2 X-Ray's and a single filling at the dentist. It's ridiculous.
Actually, im from the States and I would consider that a win!!
Load More Replies...€350 to get a broken tooth taken out, think i will just tie it to the front door slam it and hope for the best 🤦♀️
My hometown, a lot of the long time locals here are working class and it used to have a bigger sense of community. In the recent decade rich people have decided that its a cute small town with pretty scenery to buy a second home to rent out to other rich people who want to visit. Many of the long time residents here are struggling to keep/find homes meanwhile rich people who just discovered this small town can easily buy a home or rent an overpriced airbnb. Literally disgusting here now!
It might sound socialist to you, or communist, but lots of towns in Europe have (or make) laws against just this.
I watched my old part of the city, NE Minneapolis, become gentrified because it was so cool, and it is nothing like it used to be, and is full of shallow, topknot wearing trendy people. I still live here, but I don't like it very much.
So many things, but I'll say trucks. Once upon a time, a humble working class vehicle for people who need to be able to do things themselves, now they're all luxury vehicles with massive margins, unaffordable to anyone who needs them to do real work.
Unfortunate picture choice, since this seems to be referring to passenger trucks (or "pickup trucks"), but this is not wrong. I've parked next to ridiculous road wagons I could barely see over the hood of, purporting some amount of horsepower that's clearly never been utilized, to judge by the pristine cleanliness and lack of dents. All they're accomplishing is burning more fuel
As someone who needs a little work truck...it's impossible to get one. They are all huge monstrosities with crew cabs. So, no space in the truck bed. It's infuriating.
Load More Replies...True. Pickup trucks once were cheap, practical vehicles with basic comforts, now they can be just as loaded and luxurious as a Lexus or BMW with pricing to match. Even if they aren't loaded, they're still pricey. This is what happens when middle class suburbanites with massive homes start wanting them.
It's shocking how much you can pay for a luxury pickups nowadays. Who is using these pickups for work that can afford it? Also, I don't need/own one, but if I did buy a high end one (easy to spend over $70k, even $100k in some cases) I'd feel dang uncomfortable using it for practical, working purposes. I guess the wealthy just need something to tow their equally fancy boats?
I know what you're saying. I used to look at a pick up truck and think 'broke working guy' and now I see them and think either 'they're rich" or "they're in huge debt from leasing this monster.'
Empathy
Don't let anyone take your empathy away. No can do that. It's yours to have. We need more empaths in the world.
Nerd paraphernalia like Star Wars or Marvel/DC stuff (action figures, comic books, etc). Used to be just a fun hobby for kids and kids-at-heart, now it's almost totally purchased by richer, dedicated speculators solely for profit.
Can relate. I bought comics from the time of the Indie / Black&White explosion of the '90's to the Diamond distributor consolidation to the Marvel/DC/Image Publisher buy-outs. From Cross-Overs to Metallic covers to Collectable covers that combine to make up posters, Marketing really catered to the speculators.
Government
Especially since the US Supreme Court okayed the wholesale purchase of politicians. 'Citizens'? 'United'?
THIS. Thanks to that, corporations now have more say than the actual people.
Load More Replies...Being poor. I cant even be homeless without trying to fight for a camping spot
The wealthy believe that the poor should just "save money" or "get better jobs" or "stop taking drugs". I want to tell them we can't afford to take drugs, we have no money left to save after expenses, and in many cases, a better job will cost us money up front we don't have.
Our city destroys the "tent cities" and then wondered why the homeless have been taking over bus shacks and literally turning them into their home.
Camping used to be cheap and now it's crazy expensive. We used to talk about the old man living in a cabin in the woods away from civilization but you can't even be a hermit on the cheap anymore, lol. Campgrounds are being overrun by these glamping people or vanlife youtubers so prices have gone way up.
I really wish this wasn't glossed over so much. There's an ever-increasing number of regular, everyday folks who are being priced out of indoor living (see the multiple entries above on that topic) and then immediately being shunned for being in that position. And it IS more expensive to be poor, it's almost as if the system was designed to reserve any resources for those who need them least
Sam Vimes Boots theory of economic unfairness.
Load More Replies...Tipping. The history of tipping has roots in rich a******s not wanting to pay their workers or just showing off their wealth. Now (Americans + others) need to solve a math problem before they can leave a restaurant.
In Europe, where tipping originated, it was and still is optional. Americans perverted the idea to save money as employers. Now the customers basically pay the employees' wages, not the employer. But this is an American problem, not a global one.
The US isn't isolated. Because of globalism, our problems can affect others and vice versa. I hate tip culture so much! It exploits people, and it causes many to work multiple jobs because no one job can cover everything. Single people used to save up, take time off, and backpack in Europe. They can't afford to pay rent now, let alone travel. Eventually this garbage business model affects everyone.
Load More Replies...To me, a tip is a bonus for great service. It was never designed to be a replacement for an hourly wage but to be extra on top. I am genuinely surprised there haven't been riots.
Lobster and crab used to be “poor person food” because “ew water bugs” now it’s literally seen as some of the highest class food.
also spareribs. They were considered 'poor' food as late as the '70's. For that matter, one can follow the career of grilling (and the BBQ). That took a while to break out from being a lower middle class sub-urban cousin to road-side eateries.
Load More Replies...I refer to lobster as Sea Roach. I don't hate it, I just find it highly overrated.
Salmon. Food for the poor. Maidservant's in the Netherlands demanded not more than two times a week salmon.
its because there were a lot of them back there and less demand. Nowadays there are less of them and more demand
CO born and raised here! Forever priced out of my hometown. Me and all my friends have moved, just can’t afford to live there anymore. Mostly expensive due to housing. Also skiing used to be affordable, now it’s not
Any hobby where there’s potential profit. Now you’ve got dickheads like the Logan Paul ruining Pokémon cards. Not because they’re into them because they like Pokémon but because they read the stories about the rare cards and just hammered their endless piles of cash into getting everything. Same with those a*****e sheiks with massive comic book collections. They don’t give a f**k about comics. They just collect popular valuable stuff.
Crafting and sewing etc. Since people have started having Etsy shops the raw materials have jumped in price. I love to knit and I can afford to buy manufactured yarn but wool from an actual sheep is out of my budget. I wouldn't mind so much if the farmers were getting a decent price for the fleece but they aren't, it costs them more to have someone in to shear their flock than they get from the fleece.
Ugh yes. Not only that but there used to be a nice little side business for people who had a skill that might not translate to big money. A housewife trying to make a little extra cash sewing blankets, or someone making handmade items could have a little shop on etsy or facebook, et al. Now major businesses are taking over these sites making it impossible for the little guy to compete with their pricing, which they only can do because they have access to bulk source options the rest of us can't afford. Also, sites like Etsy claim to be about handmade items but a ton of the companies on there don't handmake their items at all, and buy them from Alibaba or somewhere where they are machine made in bulk. It's really not right.
Housing flipping for sure - looking to potentially buy at the moment and everything has been fitted with new grey kitchens and modern lighting etc which isn’t my style. I may be in the minority here but means paying way more for a house and then having the job of ripping everything out.
And then there's those if us happy for a hole with a piece of corrugated iron over it.
Some house flippers are lazy or have no idea what they are doing. A house next to my mom was "flipped". They didn't clean or paint the siding, they left fake paneling up in one room, left the bathroom dated and untouched, they put up an unsafe porch over existing concrete stairs, put a tin roof over shingles, left the front concrete porch untouched, planted two rosebushes, and they want 150k for it. The only rooms they refinished were the living room and kitchen. The neighborhood is literally in the middle of nowhere off of a highway behind a dumpster...... the average house here sells for 100k with two bedrooms and one bath. This is one bedroom one bath....
I think it's less about your own style and meeting the styles of your potential buyers. The clean, muted palate has been proven to allow people, especially women, to imagine what they can do with the place themselves. A busier or more traditional design is harder to look beyond. I have a friend in real estate staging and she said the number of people who don't want to even consider a house because they didn't like the paint color or fixtures is astounding. These are things you can replace at relatively small cost and you could save so much money in the long run, but it gives a bad sensory experience that they sometimes can't see past. Also modern style evokes a sense of things being clean and new. People are more apt to look past a modern faucet or style because they feel like it's still new and they are less likely to have problems (ironically, 'new' things are sometimes way more cheaply made and break quicker than older items that are probably better quality).
Clothing brands. Carhartt, dickies, Levi’s and many more. Like why did a dickies tshirt go from $15 to almost $40 in a few years
Champion sweatshirts in the 90s were considered cheap and uncool. I wore them all the time because they were comfy and I could buy them for a low price at a local outlet. Now that they’re trendy, you can’t get one for less than $40.
Yep, back in the day Champion was definitely not a hot brand that people sought out. They were not something the cool kids would be caught dead in.
Load More Replies...I feel the same way with Club Monaco. I knew it was pricier than Suzy Shier back in the day, but DAMN.
Found a good old flannel shirt for cozying at home. Major Canadian “roughing it 🤣” clothing store. $95.
I’m sure someone already mentioned this but CAMPING. It used to cost close to nothing to reserve a camp site (some are still cheap) but now they’ve gone all boujee and some sites charge you ridiculous fees to pitch a tent in the woods. Same with music festivals in the forests. People would go to get away from bullshit societal hierarchies and enjoys music and self expression. Then they got all mainstream and it lost its original meaning (think Burning Man).
In the last years we went canoeing and Camping (here in Germany) but it is nearly as expensive as an all inclusive vacation. And for just tent camping the night was nearly always like 20-30€. And everywhere we tent Camper have to Set up the tent near the restrooms and garbage places, mostly without grass and woods/shadow.
Tent Camper paid nearly the same (2€ less) as the more space using rv camper
Load More Replies...We had one miserable camping trip at a lake side campground, looking forward to sounds of birdsong and gently lapping waves. Spent the entire night awake because of some huge RV bus idling with their AC generator roaring.
Toast. Now I know toast isn't a 'poor person thing' but hear me out. Years ago, when I was counting pennies to get by, I would make "fancy toast" like avocado toast, cinnamon and sugar toast, or peanut butter banana toast, as a meal or snack because it was super cheap. I went to brunch a few weeks ago and saw avocado toast on the menu for $11, wtf.
"Fancy toast" with avocado is not what I'd call cheap for someone who's "counting pennies to get by".
When I was struggling to make it to the next meal, fancy toast meant putting butter on it, and "I've never been so rich" toast was butter and marmalade.
Load More Replies...I eat toast, avacado, spinich leafs and poched egg most mornings and it costs €1 avacado, €1.50 bag of spinich, €2 6 eggs €1.50 bread so for 6 euro ive a weeks breakie and it cost €22 in most hotels
Why is pork shoulder and oxtail so expensive? It literally used to be the parts nobody wanted.
Where do I start...rural living. They keep migrating like locusts and devouring all the woods and land. How many yogurt shops and fancy neighborhoods do theese ***** need?! Also, Aldi. I don't shop there anymore. I liked it better back in the day when it wasn't fancy, aisles narrow, and other poor or frugal people were shopping. Now the 'Live Laugh Loves' are in there with no sense of personal space. Watch out when the spiral hams are on sale! lol. I think we covered thrifting, housing, and cheap eats. (I hope they never think beans and rice are trendy! Those are my staples.) I also hate that they are now into prepping/survival too. (I think they were the ones crazy buying TP because poor people already know how to shop sensibly and keep a working pantry. I learned from my grandparents who lived during the depression.)
One reason thrift stores are getting expensive is because they're now aware rich people are thrifting.
I'm from a rural area. People are going to be coming to places like where I grew up because of climate change. We are going to have to learn to live with it - they aren't all jerks, and they might need to learn things we grew up learning. My grandparents also immigrated and lived through the depression - and with the way things are going, more people will come to rural areas because they want a decent life. Don't be a jerk about it, please. I emigrated to Rwanda, and people have been so kind to me. For 20 years. You can do the same. Sometimes, you just need to explain the difference - smart people listen.
Instagram. When it first launched we were content to post grainy pics of our average looking sandwich that we made ourselves. Or a mundane selfie. The background and the angle didn’t matter. Studies show that since the wealthy started sharing their lives on IG, our collective standard of living changed. And it’s trickled down to our influencers mimicking wealth down to average users. We’re exposed to yacht parties. expertly organized and color-coded walk-in closets, high-end facials and party-planned gender reveals. We’re benchmarking our posts with professional photographers and videographers, elevating our expectations for everything. Edit: For those saying, “just don’t use it,” it’s influenced every aspect of society whether you’re on it or not. Collectively society aspires to a flashier existence. Instagram has inspired new aesthetic-forward businesses like restaurants and coffee shops, [tourism](https://openaccess.nhh.no/nhh-xmlui/bitstream/handle/11250/2678242/masterthesis.pdf?sequence=1), home decor and types of homes, gyms and gym bodies. Fashion.
This is true. Everywhere I go, including the public library, seems to have some picturesque background where you can pose and take a picture with some specific hashtag.
Same with Youtube. It's gotten to the point if you want to upload videos and really don't care about subs and likes, then don't sink any money into special videography/sound gear and editing software. You could upload the shittiest, cringefest, embarrassing thing and likely no one will find it as it would be lost in obscurity in the bowels of the mysterious algorithm everyone loves to worship.
What's with the fish lips a lot of girls pose with in their selfies? Looks really stupid.
Walking. You can’t walk anywhere anymore everything is built to be driven to.
OP probably lives in those recently built neighbourhoods outside the city with no greenery, and assumes everywhere is the same
Load More Replies...I don't own a car and walk everywhere. I don't live in a major metropolitan city either.
I live in an old part of my city and everything is walkable. In the new subdivisions all I see is boxes with roofs built close to each other. Zoning prevents neighborhood stores from being built within walking distance in new areas. It is an urban hellscape. Transit is a joke. If you don't drive you are a prisoner in your house.
To defend op, the hospital I had to go to for my leg operation was 4 miles away from the nearest train station. Nearest swimming pool is three bus rides away. Naturally none of these are 'within walking distance'.
How far are you're bus stops apart? Here three bus stops are ten/fifteen minutes walk max. That is very much walking distance.
Load More Replies...Depends on how much of a daredevil you are. I'm blessed with a lot of sidewalks but have gone along the edge of the road if there isn't one.
Cheap cuts of meat in general. Pork belly and oxtail specifically. Growing up, oxtail used to be less than $2 a pound, now it’s well over $10.
Growing up in a poor Mexican area (Detroit) skirt steaks were the cheapest cut you could get. Since Fajitas got popular/gentrified they cost as much as tenderloin now.
Oxtails are my forever happy food. Like I could be walking down the street watching an asteroid headed our way when my kidney falls out as I get a phone call that I lost my job, and if someone then handed me oxtails I'd skip home singing (yay I still have one kidney left!) but the cost has gone up so much that I feel guilty getting them, so now I only get it for my birthday. I'm amazed that price per pound is up there with fancypants seafood. 😮💨
Everest
Everest should NEVER be about tourists. Now the lines are so long people end up spending way too long in the death zone. Pretty soon it’s going to be crowded with all the dead bodies.
80s and 90s cars. The market is super hot right now and all the rich guys are buying them up. Sorta like 50s and 60s cars in the 90s
I never thought about it but this is so accurate. I had a 23 year old Lincoln Town Car that still ran beautifully despite having almost 300k miles, and when a tornado dropped a tree on it and I realized how much it would be to fix everything, I started looking to get another of the same year and ended up getting a 2012 truck instead because they cost about the same and the 2012 was newer with fewer miles.
Is it? I have a '97 Corolla (manual), and apparently people want it. It's a great car, I've been happy with it for years, I'm not going to sell it, but is this a thing? It gets great mileage, but unless you're a taxi where I live, it's tough to see why it would be a thing.
Lot´s of reasons: 1. Nostalgia. They grew up in the nineties and had maybe posters or such on the walls. 2. They simply like the design better then new cars. 3. Older cars have something new ones don't, or vice versa.
Load More Replies...Formerly cool towns: Denver, Austin, Asheville, etc.
Yeah, Austin is my hometown. It's really bad right now. I would also add Seattle to that list.
Montessori schools. The method was created to be able to teach poor orphans well despite little funding. Now it’s some sort of “elite” schooling for $20K+ a year.
Do you know how much any childcare costs? At least if you aren't in the middle of Idaho and going to someone's "at home" daycare with 60 kids and 1 person to watch them. Costs more than college tuition or my mortgage. Super crazy.
You also have to put your name on the daycare/preschool wait list when you’re still pregnant or good luck finding an opening when you need it
Load More Replies...I wanted to look into Montessori schools when my daughter was little $90 A DAY. I was shocked and disheartened because these schools could be just what a child with a developmental delay needs to thrive.
Everything really, mofos have more money than common sense and Jack up the prices for the rest of us.
The goth subculture it used to always be make everything yourself, build it with basics I’ve been part of the subculture for the last 15 years. Now if I don’t wear dollskill or killstar (luxury goth clothing) 14 year olds on the internet tell me it’s not goth.
I love Killstar, but I wait until their sales to get anything. Every alternative/goth shop or website is ridiculously expensive, even with sales I have to save up for ages to just buy one or two items.
It's all so expensive that I resorted to black shirts and whatever bottoms I luck up on.
Load More Replies...Why are we going by what 14 year olds, who barely understand the history of goth, think? They think goth is Hot Topic and Twilight movies. It's been the same with punk clothing.
I always think of the South Park episode where the goth kids set fire to the Hot Topic. lol.
The economies and well being of natives of a c**p ton of islands. I'm talking Hawaii, places in the Caribbean, etc. Becoming economically dependent on tourist culture that is created and ultimately profited on by rich foreigners sucks. Ppl can argue about whether or not their trip to these places are helping the economy or not, but what's undeniable is that the people creating these tourist economies don't give a single s**t about the natives as they bulldoze through sacred sights and native neighborhoods in order to hand out culturally inaccurate hula skirts at 3 star hotels.
Bourbon, it used to be the most expensive bourbon you could find was like $100. Now, with everyone “collecting” the prices have sky rocketed. The secondary market is completely insane.
Thailand. It used to be a back packers paradise. You used to be able stay in huts on the beach and eat in local family run restaurants. All taken over by 5 star spa resort hotels, international chains and businesses moved in.
People need to stop posting their favorite locations on-line. If you find a great place and post pics on-line you've just ruined it in the future.
When I was 21 and single, fish mongers used to give away\throw out fish heads. They now charge. Flank steak was way cheep until people learned how to cook it. Now it's bloody expensive.
Yes with the flank steak for sure. All of these cooking shows have really ruined the cost of previously low cost foods because they've figured out how to cook it in a tasty way. I remember when flank steak was practically thrown away and now some of the largest sandwich shops barbeque them for like 10 hours and slice it on sandwiches and charge 20 bucks a sandwich for it. And there are lines out the door for it.
How is this rich people's fault? No smart seller is going to give a perisable product for free if there are many customers who can use it. You give free stuff when there is a big chance it will rot otherway, not when there is a substantial demand
I feel like that are saying those specific things because 5 star chefs started making them delicacies instead of "poor mans" food and when they realized they could make money they took advantage. So win for fish mongers but also win for mass meat producers.
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I used to thrift a lot and found it it got ruined right when that damn Macklemore song came out, it's like he told everyone a secret. I used to be able to go thrifting and come back with like 3 new work shirts and a pair of pants for like $15, good clothes too, some with the tags still on it. After that damn song, good luck finding my size at all, the clothes that were left were all shit, and they want $10 for a shirt now.
I think eBay killed it before that. They just look up what something is going for and sell it for that. Way harder to find bargains
I agree. Thrift stores have been ruined by places like ebay and even the surge of yard sales that have come up. Now people are having 'yard sales' but are really just them going to a store and reselling the items for more even if it's in some cases illegal to do so. A guy near me has a sale every weekend selling bottled water and paper towels etc that he buys at costco in bulk. Sad to say you even see this happening at food banks and food pantries where people are going in and getting free items intended for truly poor people and it's not like they're asking for proof you're poor. So they take it and they resell it. It's so gross.
Load More Replies...This got ruined by resellers, not rap enthusiasts. Poshmark for clothes, antique roadshow for decorations, Pinterest/Etsy for everything else.
Sailboats. Used to be you could on a working man's salary get a decent day sailing boat that you could go out with for the day with enough cabin space and amentities to live aboard for a long weekend, maybe a week. Like the MacGregor 26. But nobody makes mere sailboats anymore, they make... YACHTS. Expensive, over designed yachts.
Even with smaller catamarans. You're talking almost a million dollars and not a lot of space, never ending maintenance and huge fees for docking or anchoring anywhere. The cost to live on these tiny boats is really crazy and I understand it's a nice way to see the world and travel but it's not a cheap way to live by any means and it doesn't feel worth it unless this is the life you want to truly live. Most people think they do and then end up burned out within a few years with a boat they now can't resell.
Art.
It's cheap where it counts. If you want everything brand new, fancy, high end and shop at Michaels it's very hard to afford. But if you know where else to look, able to think outside the box and shop at lesser expensive art supply stores it can be cheap. Depends on your choice of medium, too.
Load More Replies...Hockey. The equipment is now super expensive, and ice time fees are becoming exorbitant. This isn’t even getting into levels of play. If you want to have a shot at the NHL, then your family better be able to fork over $20k-$30k for AAA prep schools or the like because Tier I Junior teams and Major Junior, which are the leagues that the NHL scouts, only select from AAA leagues.
Hockey equipment has always been super expensive. That is why soccer has taken off. Cheap kit. Jersey, shorts, socks and a pair of cleats and you're good to go.
Same with baseball. Softball. Football. American football. Basketball etc etc. Parents have to spend serious money to pay for travel teams - dues, transportation, lodging and that doesn't account for the time and energy involved. You can spend tens of thousands of dollars going to showcases all over the country, hoping your kid will get seen by a college scout or coach. And when they get into a good college on a partial sports scholarship (because unless you're kid is the best player in the country, the teams split up scholarships in order to entice as much talent as possible). So, that means paying the difference that the scholarship doesn't cover. And forget having the kid get a part time job! They spend every moment of free time at practice. Then, if they are lucky or good enough to have a pro scout them.... the odds of all that? Almost zero.
Cheap cheap meats canned and not canned: Vienna Sausages, Corned Beef, Gizzards, Oxtail, Tripe, Crawfish, and so forth and so on. But now it's considered "Exotic" to eat like this.
cheap and simple dishes. ramen, tacos, sushi. now everything’s gotta be labeled premium only to taste the exact same…if not, worse
and it's all 'gourmet' and fancy but tastes like a$s. The reason a taco is good is because it's not fussed with and it's greasy and delicious. I saw a menu with 3 tacos taco with truffles and caviar sold at this fancy restaurant near me being listed for like 150 bucks and I wanted to blow my brains out.
Tulum, Jackson Hope, Aspen, many rural areas of Colorado, Antigua Guatemala, Land Rover Defenders, etc.
Tiny houses or organic farming, free range chickens or egg , now everything is expensive because it's in trend
Organic farming is legit more expensive. Even if you diy. More hassle and work too, but worth it
Exactly. Not sure why people want battery farm eggs to be almost the same price as organic ones, in the same supermarket
Load More Replies...Avocados
When weren't they expensive in the U.S.? I grow my own here, and I have for 20 years. And I've been telling people about how expensive they are in the U.S. the whole time.
“Imagine” by John Lennon
There were a few celebrities that sung a cover version in the early days of the pandemic. People did not respond well. It was supposed to lift peoples spirits but in reality it just highlighted the massive gap between rich and poor. Those sitting in mansions with healthy Bank balances probably aren't in the same boat as someone who lives paycheck to paycheck.
Load More Replies...I'm surprised there isn't an entry labeled "justice". In the US, at least, we've been given repeated proof that if you've got enough money, you definitely aren't subjected to the same laws or consequences as everyone else.
Rich people ruin their children. The WORST people I have met were raised in privilege. Zero clue about the real world, zero clue how to treat people, with zero ability to handle adversity.
Only 75? ... BTW, my SIL yesterday enjoyed a gourmet picnic meal in a field of llamas for her day, which pretty much is the most ... so, yeah, the rich *are* different. She sees no conflict between that and her alleged leftist values. Feel free to facepalm here as she and her 7-figure income-making hubby travel 1st class by private helicopter to their next destination...
I sort of agree but most rich people probably are greedy at some point. I've often wondered why people who have millions always seem to think they still need more.
Load More Replies...Rich people ruined beauty. It used to be that if you were young, healthy, had clear-skin, and a decently proportioned face, that was all you needed. Now we have rich people buying cosmetic procedures because ‘Eew, I don’t wanna look poor!’ It’s a 50/50 chance they’ll either come out looking like either a cookie-cutter model, or they’ll ruin their face. Either way, it’s sad that much plastic is being used to shame to the average face into buying expensive products and making pretty rich people richer. Beauty should be freely available to the actually disadvantaged, and yet there should be a legal limit to how much procedures you can have, so you don’t ruin yourself. And beauty should be about expression, not conformity. When people conform, it’s harder to see the real beauty within. The personality.
It's okay, they look like rotting potatoes when they age with all that plastic and silicone.
Load More Replies...usually, down here the rich are selected among anyone else, so it's not about fighting the rich, it's about fighting the system.
Thing is, there was only a veeeery brief period in time during which the poor and middle class experienced significant upward mobility. We’re just close enough to it to recognize how quickly it disappeared. The fact that the entire notion of a decent sized middle class was created and is in major decline within a few generations is evidence of that.
I believe by reading the majority of the comments here on the "Bored Panda" it's not hard to understand that when other Planets, or Cities in space are developed and eventually occupied there will not be anyplace for the homeless nor the "everyday, average guy" since only the 'elite' and the 'card carrying" socialists will be privy to those locations to start their New Utopia while the rest of mankind shall be left here to make our way as best we can. But the good news is that it can and will be done, since the reality of most businesses and factories are actually run by the blue collar workers who actually know how to do their jobs without being "micro- managed" by someone who was handed their job by a Croney or a relative.
How about: 1. Food 2. Petrol 3. Insurance 4. Basic needs 5. Golden years
This article should be, what hipsters ruined. They over pay for anything "cool". Businesses move to where the money is.
I'm surprised there isn't an entry labeled "justice". In the US, at least, we've been given repeated proof that if you've got enough money, you definitely aren't subjected to the same laws or consequences as everyone else.
Rich people ruin their children. The WORST people I have met were raised in privilege. Zero clue about the real world, zero clue how to treat people, with zero ability to handle adversity.
Only 75? ... BTW, my SIL yesterday enjoyed a gourmet picnic meal in a field of llamas for her day, which pretty much is the most ... so, yeah, the rich *are* different. She sees no conflict between that and her alleged leftist values. Feel free to facepalm here as she and her 7-figure income-making hubby travel 1st class by private helicopter to their next destination...
I sort of agree but most rich people probably are greedy at some point. I've often wondered why people who have millions always seem to think they still need more.
Load More Replies...Rich people ruined beauty. It used to be that if you were young, healthy, had clear-skin, and a decently proportioned face, that was all you needed. Now we have rich people buying cosmetic procedures because ‘Eew, I don’t wanna look poor!’ It’s a 50/50 chance they’ll either come out looking like either a cookie-cutter model, or they’ll ruin their face. Either way, it’s sad that much plastic is being used to shame to the average face into buying expensive products and making pretty rich people richer. Beauty should be freely available to the actually disadvantaged, and yet there should be a legal limit to how much procedures you can have, so you don’t ruin yourself. And beauty should be about expression, not conformity. When people conform, it’s harder to see the real beauty within. The personality.
It's okay, they look like rotting potatoes when they age with all that plastic and silicone.
Load More Replies...usually, down here the rich are selected among anyone else, so it's not about fighting the rich, it's about fighting the system.
Thing is, there was only a veeeery brief period in time during which the poor and middle class experienced significant upward mobility. We’re just close enough to it to recognize how quickly it disappeared. The fact that the entire notion of a decent sized middle class was created and is in major decline within a few generations is evidence of that.
I believe by reading the majority of the comments here on the "Bored Panda" it's not hard to understand that when other Planets, or Cities in space are developed and eventually occupied there will not be anyplace for the homeless nor the "everyday, average guy" since only the 'elite' and the 'card carrying" socialists will be privy to those locations to start their New Utopia while the rest of mankind shall be left here to make our way as best we can. But the good news is that it can and will be done, since the reality of most businesses and factories are actually run by the blue collar workers who actually know how to do their jobs without being "micro- managed" by someone who was handed their job by a Croney or a relative.
How about: 1. Food 2. Petrol 3. Insurance 4. Basic needs 5. Golden years
This article should be, what hipsters ruined. They over pay for anything "cool". Businesses move to where the money is.
