It's a common trope among many guys to claim that they simply don't understand women - whether it is willful ignorance or not is another question, but there seems to be a fashionable yet lazy acceptance that women are a complete mystery so there is no point in trying.
Well, there's no excuse now fellas. Turns out, all we had to do was ask! Women on Twitter have decided to take matters into their own hands with the viral hashtag #WhatMenDontKnowAboutWomen.
While they clearly don't speak for all women, the discussion is incredibly insightful and educational, as posters take turns sharing their experiences and frustrations about the kinds of things that just seem to pass many men by. Have you got your notepad at the ready guys? There are some really important points here (and some funny ones too!).
Scroll down below to check them out for yourself, and let us know your thoughts in the comments.
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This one is so important. The men who understand this one suffer from much less stress, once they know they don't really need to do anything, besides a hug and consolation.
I don't believe that this is a gender difference but just ppl acting different. In my case, I'm the one that wants to solve issues and cheer up my parter when he is mad/sad, but, when im sad/mad, he will wait until I feel better.
I'm the same - people come to me with a problem and I want to help fix it. I find it really hard to just do sympathy.
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We can do this and most of us do. But hearing the same complaint for 5 years without you changing anything is frustrating.
Anyone complaining about something for five years and doing nothing really doesn't deserve sympathy.
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Took me many years to "get" this one. As a man it's something I'll never truly understand, but I accept it and try to just "be there".
I'm a woman and I also have a really hard time getting this one too. It is really hard for me to step back and accept that there are some problems I can't fix with friends.
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Well what women don't know, we do those things to comfort you and if you don't like that you can just tell us some guys doesn't get the hint so you should say it to us and explain what you really feels. We're always there for you even if you are mad on us. :-)
True, but, that's just who we are. Sometimes, it's worth saying "I don't need a solution, just your empathy/sympathy"
Exactly, many men itch to immediately do something to fix the situation. Instead of simply asking "Is there something I can do?" More often than not, the answer is "No." But that does not mean your effort is ignored, it's just not a "roll up your sleeves and bring out the tools" kind of situation. Just... sit down with her. Listen. Maybe bring a blanket and hot chocolate.
I am a woman and I really have a difficult time grasping this one. It is something that I work on with my friends because I am a problem solver. I want to fix the situation.
Stop defining men. Your premise is ridiculous “men are action biased” …. What. Nope. Some of them are, exactly just as also some women also are.
Have to say it means so some though when the says , "I wish this were something I could just fix for you, but I know I can't do that! Let me know if there is anything I can do that will help you feel better! That sure means a lot and I know I am super lucky to have a Hubby who does!
We are most often "fixers." It took me years to realize that when a woman (at least my woman) is complaining, she merely wants me to listen. Part of that comes from my military service: when an officer or NCO is complaining, you BETTER fix it!
I learned this one early in my marriage. I would say "do you just need me to listen or do you want me to fix it". Communication is key.
No, no, no. Be there AND fix things. What's wrong with a man wanting to do something to rectify the situation? Being there is nice, but the fact that a dude wants to help you by changing something about what is happening shows love
lol you are literally contradicting what other women on this page said and there is even a post here saying that we shouldn't fix things and that women dont want us to fix things. and then you batshit third wave nutsos still act confused and puzzled when everyone else points out how crazy and self-contradicting you are
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A well-made counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg
Men (and women) want to fix things because they are solution focused and because they care. If a brain is wired that way, how can someone change those pathways and why should they. You have a nail in your head and you're complaining about the pain. We say take the nail out of your head and the pain magically disappears. But you say that's the wrong way to go about things. I disagree
Yes, but sometimes there is no solution and women just want to talk things through rather than immediately jumping to action about anything. Sometimes you just have a bad day and don't want someone to fix it, you just want someone to listen and be there for you.
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Well, the 50th might be ours. We don't need to fix things to accomplish you. We need to fix things to accomplish our ocd. The fact some gets flattered because it's your ac power socket is almost an irrelevant bonus, but we welcome more things to fix because our ocd is always hungry of things to fix.
... and that doesn't mean "I was nice to you all week. You OWE me." - that does not make us feel secure, respected or loved. We don't OWE you for temporary niceness.
The women who don't dare go out without a ton if makeup on? They don't do it for themselves. They do it because they've been made insecure about how they look.
Do you honestly believe men fail to grasp this? A small minority of men do, butthe vast majority are well aware of this (I'm not wrong here)!
Being reliable and noticing/doing the mundane things, waaaay more sexy than ignoring it all and throwing in the occasional grand gesture.
Ah yes... please... just... listen. That means literally *listen*... then... *comprehend*. Not "I hear words, and I am going to make some assumptions and fill in blanks to what *I* think the problem is and try to solve THAT. 'cuz That's me being awesome" - no... we literally mean "Listen to what *I* am saying. Do not interpret it yourself, then try to fix something that wasn't being said, then get mad because you think we weren't being straight with you... you actually... were not... listening and you don't want to admit it now.
I think this a dangerous thing to say. Some people choose clothes for themselves and not because they want sex. You will only truly know if someone wants sex by asking them. Clue, if they say yes, you're in
I am 100% certain that if you could pan down, that ape is wearing socks.
That sounds more like a criticism of women than men. If you know something, don't pretend you don't, that's manipulative.
Oh great. So 'no' is the opposite of no? STOP SAYING THINGS YOU DON'T MEAN! That is what confuses other people and keeps perpetuating the stereotype of women saying no when they mean yes. What a rotten advice this is.
Why fake it? You get nothing from it and he thinks he is doing great.
I hate posts like these. "things men cannot seem to grasp" - yeah, because all men are the same, right. I only read the first ten posts, but every. Every. Every single decent man will understand every. Every. Every. Single. Point that's being talked about. I know there are a**holes who won't understand, but that's not "all men". You all just seem to know those a**holes - but if that tells us something after all, then it's about you, not about men in general.
These are ridiculous generalisation. They make all men seem like emotionless woman-haters, yet argue that all woman are the same, too. For equality such postings are poison!
Technically, it's great for equality because it manages to be misogynist and misandrist at the same time.
Kaisu - if we men are not allowed to feel frustrated/uncomfortable because of you, we will not allow the same, either. Equality of consequences, not just of opportunities.
if you look closely you'll notice that 99% of the articles on bored panda are just like this: dumb, sweeping generalizations, left-wing spin, outright false information, etc.
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To be fair, these posts talk about "men" not "all men". It can't be like "women aren't allowed to feel frustrated or uncomfortable with men's behaviour because then it's not equality!!"
Thank you A B C. Maybe the post should specify that its targeting misogynistic men, or I dunno... it makes me sad to read a lot of these but I understand that the women writing them must have been the target of the bad behaviors their describing. But women, please know that there are men out there sensitive to your needs, and plenty of male allies out there that also want equal treatment for everyone.
My guess is, that would be femsplaining it to us, lol
Guess we are part of the broad brush stroke used to describe "men". All that this post made me realize is that women don't know how to pick a real man.
I gotta agree here ABC, if we saw a post educating women about men the s would hit the fan. A big part of gender equality is equality, not treating men poorly to make up for the poor treatment of women
Thank you for saying this, you can clearly see that this is a 3rd wave feminist going off on men for no apparent reason other than they are too ignorant not to put men in a box.
lol the triggered third wavers already downvoted my first reply to you within an hour of me posting it. tells you everything about how insane they are right there
Dave you use triggered as an insult. Why?
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Triggered?
yes lauren, triggered. i type facts that shatter their flawed worldview, and they rabidly mash the downvote button until their keyboards break and they develop carpal tunnel. that is called being "triggered"
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I think they probably mean "some men" not all men. I have seen a lot, too many of those who think women are just pretty things made to serve them. And too many of those "I am a nice guy, I deserve you as girlfriend". Of course, there are normal men also, but this is not for them.
So why not WRITE "some men" then? Just writing "men" is generalising, as it is to be understood as "all men". And that is simply not true.
then write it down. If you do not, nothing will be assumed, and consequences will be dished out accordingly. Its on YOU to communicate properly. Not on us to think your words over and over, just to maaaybe know what you might really want/mean/think.
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Instead of listening and attempting any sort of understanding of what women go through in their day, you feel the need to take it on a personal level. It's of course not personal, it'swhat they've experienced as a WOMAN, want to get off their chest into twitter to say "hey I wish men could get this sometimes" if you get it already --great! But if you feel personally attacked by the more oppressed of the two genders putting this out into the universe then maybe there's more to that...I read this with my boyfriend and a number of things he said he understood once he dated me but didn't before. BIG WHOOP
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Litterally 90% of the posts on these comments are men attacking women and downvoting them because "it's not fair," "that's not true, I'm a special unicorn and this doesn't apply to ME!"
I get sad when this kind og post comes up. The “lets remind everyone that men are ignorant and haven’t got a clue” posts. I know women has been treated badly for centuries, but does that mean it’s OK to talk about men as if they are all tools?
I am a woman and I completely agree. I see man bashing all too often and it often gets ignored or unnoticed. There are bad things in both genders, sadly it seems to be forgotten and men get the short straw. I hope one day things will get better for all genders.
That will only happen when we stand up against it, and call people out on it, when we see it. Until there is a (social) consequence to that kind of prejudice/bashing/discrimination, nothing will change. Our sons and grandsons will all be labeled like this, and it’s only getting WORSE.
Rhonda Sisco-Cleveland exactly. I have called people out on their comments and attitudes towards men and unfortunately a lot of people don’t want to hear it. As we progress with women’s rights we are forgetting rights for men in other areas. Like domestic violence, mental health, child custody etc. I even wrote an article on BoredPanda about male victims of abuse and there is absolutely stuff all interest in it yet the day before when a post was made about women, there was a shit load of interest and comments etc.
Me too, I'm a woman and I'm fed up of seeing these kinds of post all over the internet.
I do collect that if a person actually has the full empathy for someone being treated badly for centuries, they would understand that those are just rantings about their daily frustrations, and won't feel the necessity to be mortified if they weren't directed towards them.
Okay, so you are asking to be centered. That’s what this is. It’s not a wrong impulse. It’s a human one. So the next time a female tells she feels left out, left behind or marginalized, remember how it feels not to be centered when you feel you should be included. Then do better at ensuring *everyone* is included by using non-centering language and understanding the differences between centered stories (stories that put one group’s emotions and experiences front and center at the expense of all others). It’s a much bigger issue than you seem to be aware of. How do I know you’re not aware of this? Because you took a post that centers on someone else (women) as an attack on you. That is how centered stories can feel, alright. It’s great that you’ve had this experience - at all and after all your years on earth - because you can use it to (a) not feel attacked and (b) viscerally understand why *other people* feel attacked by narratives and perspectives you are comfortable with.
Men are attacked CONSTANTLY. Idk why you think they are only now getting a wakeup call. I’m almost 50, and I’ve been watching the man bashing for a looooong time. My mother was a man hater and so was my grandmother; this has affected many generations of my family, I’ve seem what it does to the self esteem of the boys/men, and it’s NOT OK.
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No, not all men are tools. But the ones who are make all men look bad.
But would you say the same about women? If I made a similar post about the shortcomings of women, I think there would be an outroar against it. Are we not supposed to be equal?
Makes you wonder if women want honest dialogue with men..or this cosmo esque drivel...really boredpanda you can do better than this..men are not single minded sex machines that victimize wome
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You will lose your virginity someday if you lose the attitude
stop commenting on other people's sex lives, it's creepy and pervy
Gross
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I am.
sorry bud
Women like to show that ignorantly stereotyping the opposite sex isn't just a man thing. Ignorance is a two way street. Progress? I guess?
sounds like mansplaining to me XD
A lot of these are really ridiculous, at what point are women going to be adults and take responsibility for their lives?! It appears like these women have had a negative experience and then blame all men. Can you imagine if a bunch of guys were to tweet about women and tell them how to behave or tweet about what they perceive to be mistakes?! This kind of propaganda is tearing apart society in my opinion.
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I think what I find bizarre about this kind of post is that a number of the points contradict each other. It goes from "we aren't that complicated!" to "the 6th sense is real and women are developing the 7th sense". What does that even mean? I'm a woman and I don't get it. Guess I don't have those extra senses, after all!
It's pretty sad that even women sometimes don't consider women as individuals. A lot of people should learn the difference between speaking for a group and speaking for themselves.
*in 'us and them' camps, I should say. I can't edit my post for some reason!
Yeah, I don't really believe in an 'us and them' camp, I have to say!
thats because the bored panda editor who put this page together was probably literally high on like their 23rd joint. literally no brain cells left just an empty skull
Dave g-learn a new word, triggered is boring. So is snowflake, 3rd wave, alpha and beta etc. You sound like a broken record
lauren sorry you don't like the labels that accurately describe the nutty movement you belong to. unfortunately for you the english language is fine with the way it is and doesn't have any plans of redesigning itself to suit your flawed worldview better. please feel free to post a novel of a comment raging about it and mash the downvote button on my comments until your keyboard explodes
lol they must have gotten triggered so bad they downvoted me for pointing this out
So yeah another bad idiot men smart women post...that does nothing but divide us further
One thing I do not agree is generalisations like these. I mean it's not okay to say all women are the same but it's okay to say all men are the same? Double standards much. I'm a woman and I don't agree with all this new age double standards crap. We're all human, all different, good and bad. Your age, sex, money, religion, ethnicity, looks, etc do not define people as a whole, your actions speak louder than words, and that is what defines you, and not the "label" society boxed you in.
What a weird kind of post. Truly condescending, never knew woman where truth tellers with these weird abilities. Some are fun I guess. Stereotypes non the less.
LoL, this whole topic is just stupid, men know all of this stuff, and even when we treat you like princesses you still end up cheating with the bad boy ex who treated u like crap...
Ross you're speaking out of hurt. Men and women treat each other badly. I'm sorry u had a bad experience, but there are lots of women out there. Most don't want to be treated like princesses, but then I'm sure there are some who do. Best of luck in any case ^-^
@dave g just shut your god damn sexist asshole mouth up every single comment of yours that I’ve seen is sexist as SHIT go to hell bitch btw this is a man spwaking
just an fyi lauren caswell is a troll and is actually a dude in real life. ignore every comment they post. they're a weirdo and a stalker too
Don't want to be treated as princesses. Being treated as a grown competent adult human being would be welcome.
expecting to always have our undivided, exclusive attention is being treated as princess. It does not come freely, nor always. Especially not just because you whaaaant. And that is just one of many points.
I love how by the end of these most women are even disagreeing with the post.
All in all, I just wish that people realized that women are human beings. We are not a monolith who all think and act the same. We are individuals just like men. No two women are the same, just like no two men are the same. We’re HUMANS.
I honestly don't like things like this. All it is good for is stirring up arguments. The simple fact is, everyone is different and everyone has different expectations of one another.
Well... But aren't these just a bunch of clichés by now? I think people should just be real and say and do what they actually think and mean without the "mind games". <3
Both sexes are different and both have their ways and what they want. Don't try to change that because it won't happen. You can only find a medium
Shorter: men stupid, women superior.
Shorter still: people equal.
More sexist crap from Boredpanda Won't be coming here again
For number 15 - speaking only on behalf of the person whose name appears on the top of this comment, I'm finding this one to be way, way off. All exes and current girlfriend wanted me to reiterate their opinion in my voice - and not a single thing else. Learned through painful trial and error
It would be nice to see a reverse of this article instead of a constant stream of trashing men. Promote equality instead of just feminism.
They did it a little while ago https://www.boredpanda.com/guy-secrets-girls-dont-know/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic
To assume all men fall into these categories is angry, sexist craziness. What if I posted, things blacks don't know about whites or things (fill in your favorite group) will never understand. Boredpanda shouldn't post crap like this.
As a girl, I really hated this post. Is abussive and, some images just contradicts others. There are as**holes in both genders, why would you generalize like "Men dont know".
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Of course its abusive. Women in general are often way more abusive than men.
Abusive... hard to know. Certainly men kill their female partners far more than the other way around.
Henry halliday- it is a broadly known fact backed by statistics that women who are murdered are more likely to be killed by their partner than men who are murdered. Not a generalisation, a statement of statistics
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Where you get that info from? Sounds like one of those generalisations we're all taking issue with
Some of these make good points...most of these are horribly stereotypical...many others are just blatant red flags I (as a woman) would warn men to run away from as quickly as possible....Can we all just listen to each other and get along regardless of XX and XY?
If you want to be listened to, you must provide what we want first. Being listened to is not free.
What is it you want Michal? Honestly.
Wtf we have to provide to be listened to? What is wrong with you?! People are people!
Wow that sounds disgusting? Like "give me what I want first and then MAYBE I'll treat you like a human being"
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I don’t think you know how to.
this type of post same bs womans studies I was force fed 20 years ago AS A WOMAN BS.BS. All BS Will not visit here again o include sponsors.
Palm Beach2356 +
If a woman on a date applies lip gloss in your presence...make an attempt to kiss her at the end of date.
I guess they are promoting equality; they’re treating men and women both just as horribly. Kind of like Mussolini’s quote about voting rights where he said that when he said gender equality he meant that no one gets to vote
Bored panda ought to be ashamed of itself for this horrible misandrist and misogynist post. Also, I don’t care about the different items on the list (minus the one about how men and women can be platonic friends) because I want nothing to do with women in a romantic sense (or other men, for that matter).
Or, hear me out, NO ONE SHOULD BE HAVING SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE.
Hurting your partner's feelings by acting like a punk is not personal charisma. For some ppl not for all man.
Haha, I think at this point people just see my name and get triggered because they want to ignore reality. There were posts in here (see #12) where I was SUPPORTING the post, yet I get downvoted all to hell because SJW's only see the world in black and white. I sincerely hope you all take the time to do some soul searching because the downvotes don't anger me, they just make me feel bad for people who get so blinded by ideology that they can't see past someone's name and actually read and process what's being said on an objective basis.
We disagree sometimes full name, but you raise perfectly valid points. I can't see why you were downvoted so I'm gna vote it up lol
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A LOT of insecure men here!
Everyone, just treat others the way you want to be treated. You want to be understood, then try to understand. You want to be appreciated, then appreciate others. You want to be listened to and heard, then listen and hear others. Gender really doesn't matter. Everyone needs to eat, sleep, poop, work, love, and Live. So bam, Golden Rule.
Seems like a lot of stupid over generalizations and a lot of anger in the comments from both sides. Good job BP keep the hits coming.
Men may be afraid that women are laughing at them. Women are afraid men are going to kill them. Most murders are men killing women they are living with. ( married or not)
The problem is getting worse as the numbers are increasing. Not that I agree with everything in this article but certainly men killing women is a significant problem.
Actually most murders are man on man. Men kill each other 6 times as much as they kill women. But yes, if a woman is killed it is very, very likely to be a male partner or ex-partner.
And when will we be expecting a "Things most women fail to grasp" article? As a woman that list would be pretty d@mn long. #1: Not all men are evil
Jonathan Smith posted this link above https://www.boredpanda.com/guy-secrets-girls-dont-know/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic:
Where is the generalization? It says most men. It may be annoying to see lots of repetitive posts like this. They are swarming now because feminism is a trend atm. Women are saying most of those things since forever, but it was all dismissed till now. There still is plenty of sexism everywhere and things shall be repeated again and again till they sink in and all men understand. Just because some men already knows those doesn't mean all men does. Women deal with bullshit daily, men will deal with bullshit too till things change. I don't see much improvement, where is it? Rape, femizide, abuse crime rates still the same, women are still poorly presented in all respected high status circles, wage gap still exists, women still do more work and caring, women are still blamed, shamed, laughed at for being humans, most women and all children still take the father's name, women are still expected to sacrifice a lot more to receive close to nothing. It's like claiming to help at home because you washed the dishes twice this year, but ofc you are entitled a reward for it.
nirity, "most men" is a generalization, you idiot
no lauren, clearly you and your nutty friend nirity did. notice that my comment is the one being downvoted, so obviously i'm not the one who is triggered here. retard
Aw dave, did you get triggered?
Misandrists (er, um "modern day feminists") love these kinds of posts.
I could not agree more.
Awww mine didn't make it
Just another super feminist bored panda post
Why do men are so sensitive about this? Of course men are not the same and neither are women! I disagreed with some of the women but most of these things need to be said over and over again. Also: feminism is not a bad word. It doesn't mean that women hate men etc. Most stay blind to the sexism and abuse we face. Your daughter will be groped, told that she's a slut or a whore and asked to show her breasts and her ass will be slapped by strangers. That's the reality and you need to raise your sons better. Women deserve respect.