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Unfortunately, we’re not mind-readers—at least… most of us aren’t. That means that if we want somebody to know something, we have to vocalize it. Or hope beyond hope that they’ll pick up on the trail of clues we leave in our body language.

The men of Reddit have come together and shared the things that they wish women knew and the things that are important to them, in the context of romantic relationships and beyond. They opened up about cute things like the fact that men really do enjoy hugs and compliments and also broached practical topics like the need to be alone from time to time. (Hey, boundaries are important, especially in relationships.)

As you’re scrolling down, upvote the posts that you agree with. And you should also swing by the comment section to share the things that you wish your partners knew, too, dear Pandas. Bored Panda spoke about the dynamic between men and women, and why it’s important to communicate about what’s most important to us with dating and relationship expert Dan Bacon, the founder of The Modern Man. Scroll down to read what he had to say.

#1

Just say it straight. Don't make me read between the lines or trying and take a hint. How in the heck am I supposed to know you're into me if you don't say it. I don't know you well enough to read your brand of body language, but I'm interested in you cause you seem cool.

If you respond with a "no" to my interest I will respect your boundaries, don't expect me to "try harder". No means no.

Verbal communication is way better.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. It's really the basic concept of consent we teach our kids. No means no. I talked to a girl once that told me, if I were a real man, I would chase her. No ma'am. A real adult says what they mean.

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Bored Panda asked dating and relationship expert Dan to elaborate on the kinds of attitudes that are healthy in relationships, as well as whether it’s important to be on the same page in terms of respecting and understanding each other’s passions in life.

“The best attitude is true, sincere love where you honestly care about the other person and only want the best for them. However, that can only happen if the dynamic of the relationship continues to produce those feelings over time,” the expert told us.

#2

30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men You know that complaint that women sometimes have that just because they are polite to you doesn't mean they're interested in you?

Yeah, that works both ways. I'm not saying "good morning" because I want to bed you, I'm not holding the door for you because I think you'll reward me with some nookie for doing so, etc. etc.

I'm doing so because, like you, I'm a decent human being and am being polite.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

exactly i am just being polite i would do the same for a person of any gender or even species but not bears though

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Women body shaming men is just as bad as men body shaming women.

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“If the dynamic of the relationship causes one or both of them to lose their feelings of attraction and love, then it will be very difficult to behave, think or care in the same way they did in the beginning. As a result, the relationship will become stale and a breakup or divorce will almost certainly happen at some point,” he said that consistent, genuine effort has to be put into relationships to make them work.

“Unfortunately, most people don’t ever get taught how to create and maintain a mutually happy, in love and attracted relationship dynamic, so they just wing it and hope for the best, which then results in high levels of breakups and divorces,” Dan said that just hoping for the best without actively doing your best isn’t good enough.

#4

30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men Girl: I’m dropping so many hints! Why doesn’t he get them?
Boy: I think the girl is dropping hints but I’m not sure I want to risk my friendship and embarrassment, so I’ll just ignore them.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't speak for all men, but as a general rule of thumb: we are dreadful at deciphering subtle signs. Please just say what you want to convey.

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men Please ask us out. It makes us feel wanted and loved.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For me I feel like even talking to a woman, no matter how innocent my intentions I am being judged for only wanting "one" thing, it makes it so awkward should I want to ask a woman out, I dare not.

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#6

30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men Just because I’m not talking, doesn’t mean I’m not enjoying my time with you.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My measure of how close you feel with someone. I have had many a happy a time just sat reading a book, with someone sat next to me also reading or doing puzzles etc. No communication, just being there with each other.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A comfortable silence is as crucial as a shared sense of humor to a healthy relationship.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same here. I can be very silent, it simply means I don't have a topic to talk about. And, unless you're the one being distracted by whatever else you're doing, if we're being silent together, it's probably because I feel comfortable with you. Otherwise, I'd force a topic to make conversation, because it's too awkward.

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Claudia Schmid
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an introvert and someone from a culture where people are rather reserved: I can relate! I want to enjoy moments in silence.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This seems more like an introvert/extrovert thing than a men/women thing. Plenty of women prefer comfortable silence over constant chatter too.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up as an only child so sitting in a room together with my friends silently is really enjoyable for me but they don't see it that way because they're used to interacting all the time.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That goes for all introverts, in all kind of relationships. We just need some time off from everybody to get our own thoughts clear and to recharge in a noise free enviroment. Time alone does not necessarily make people lonely, and going quiet is not always a sign of being mad -it can just be due to pure exhaustion needing a time out, or be caused by a task that requires a high level of consentration that can only be achieved by shutting everything else out temporarely.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you say, "What are you thinking about?" and we say "Nothing", that doesn't mean we are withholding. Our inner worlds seem to be a little quieter than yours. We really might not be thinking about anything. Or we might be mentally rank-ordering the greatest point guards of all time, but saying "Nothing" is probably a better answer.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. Also, often our thoughts are just a way of keeping the old hamster wheel turning, so explaining what we are thinking about would feel like even more than a waste if time (which if definitely feels like) and spoil all the enjoyment, since it will require the kind of explanation that is way more reasoning than whatever is the subject deserve.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, even though I'm not in a relationship or anything, this just speaks for me. I'm quiet? I'm enjoying stuff. I'm not smiling? STILL ENJOYING!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes this! I have resting b face on top of that, so I end up hurting my face by forcing a smile for a long time

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But I would do that (I’m a girl and personally don’t talk often)

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backatya
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

no need to be over talkative but being mute the whole time sucks

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Susan Mercurio
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, since several comments have been left about how you aren't mind readers, we aren't mind readers either.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

True happiness involves finding that special person with whom you feel comfortable doing or saying absolutely nothing for hours at a time.

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Alana Voeks
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do you expect a 30 year long married couple to have been talking to each other every second of their waking days together? No? Don't expect it of yourselves. You're still individuals. Enjoy your hobbies.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live with an introvert and this is the most true thing on this list.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some of my favorite, treasured memories, with my (ex- 💔) husband are of us just driving around in the wilderness, hiking, camping, watching movies together, drumming together, laying or sitting beside each other reading, or just thinking our thoughts, in peaceful silence. 💗 I hope & pray for a partner, again, some day, with whom I can enjoy that kind of peace & silence, & just enjoying each others' presence, company, energy, & being. (My [ex-💔] husband & I could also talk all night, & enjoy doing many other "active" things together, engaging with each other, & I enjoyed those times & things just as much. I pray for a partner with whom I can share THOSE kinds of things, as well. I need & appreciate both.)

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Im trying to get my SO to understand that not every comment or long winded story needs an answer. Sometimes, if you would listen to yourself, you have explained everything I need to know in what you have just said and I don't need to ask for any further clarification. It's not a snub, you are just good at explaining yourself. Take it as a compliment!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do something I call "existing in your presence". I may not want to talk to you, but I will sit near you and play on my phone or whatever. I enjoy your company, not just your words.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. I also like physical contact sometimes. For example, when I was in my late 20's, I once briefly dated a high school teacher in his mid-30's. He used to get headaches grading papers, planning, etc. He'd always start blinking a lot and rubbing the bridge of his nose. So I'd get up and give a shoulder, neck, head massage. No talking, he kept grading or doing whatever he needed. Once I felt him relax, I'd go and get him some medicine, sometimes a snack, then settle back down with my own work or a book, etc.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That you're a terrible conversationalist in no way obligates me to remain in your company.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This goes for any gender and relationship (platonic, romantic, family). I hate talking and people take that as a sign that I'm sad or bored, but I'm just quiet.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is my measure of happiness as well: if we can spend time together and need not words, we are good!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My and my boyfriend, either one of us is silent and the other one is yakking, or we're both quiet. I would just like to know if it's really a red flag if a guy who says they love you doesn't ask much about your life, in terms of interests, childhood, and keep up a conversation. And also if it's bad he doesn't want to talk much about his interests. Just as a general opinion.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my humble opinion, not really. Sometimes it comes down to personality. Some people are just quiet and not talkative. Sometimes they just prefer to listen to whatever you say. Not a red flag. It's more up to you on what you preferences are, like if you are ok having a relationship with a person like that.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like that my SO and I can sit and not talk. It's nice to have silence in company.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Verbal communication is key to building mutual trust and respect.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get a woman with a dog or cat, we know how to be comfortable just cuddling quietly.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. I’m not a big talker, but that doesn’t mean I’m bored with you or would rather be somewhere else.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately I am uncomfortable around silence as my dad used it as punishment when I was a kid. He alternated between raging maniac and stony silence. So when someone doesn't speak I wonder what I did wrong. I know intellectually it's not the case but that doesn't help. I also suck at conversation so it would be nice to be comfortable around silence.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Comfortable silence is a wonderful measure of a good relationship

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep this one too. I really have nothing to say. If I DO want to say something, it's because I had a crap day at work and I want to rant. Just let me rant. Once it's over, I will go quiet again. It has nothing to do with you. It certainly does NOT mean I'm daydreaming about someone else. EVER.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please make that clear though by stating it to ease any anxiety the other person may have.

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Relationship expert Dan explained to Bored Panda that even though it’s wonderful to have the support of your partner when it comes to the things that you most care about, at the end of the day, we have to understand that this won’t be the case in every scenario.

“A man needs to be aware that his girlfriend or wife may not understand his passion project the way he does,” he pointed out that a guy’s girlfriend might simply not ‘get’ why he wants what he wants or needs what he needs.

#7

30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men We like random gifts, we like random hugs, we like random signs of affection and love — sometimes just a cup of coffee in my favorite mug is enough to convince me it’s going to be a good day.

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men Sometimes stuff is just difficult. For no reason I can also be sad, just because I don’t cry doesn’t mean I’m not sad.

Also

We don’t want to be the ones who always initiates sex, it makes us feel creepy sometimes.

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“She may not see the importance of it, or might be annoyed with it because he has failed at it for years on end and they have bills to pay,” Dan said that some people might even start resenting their partners if their passions, projects, and goals haven’t yielded fruit (yet).

“She wants to see progress in their life and have a feeling of security about their future, rather than watching him spending years or decades fiddling around with something that isn't providing results for them as a couple now,” he noted how some women think and how they sometimes disregard what guys think is important.

#10

When we're start dating, all other women don't magically become unattractive. No, I don't want to be with them, but some are still pretty. I will look. I won't stare. It means nothing and has no influence on my feelings for you. Btw, I'll probably look at that guy with huge arms too, and it won't bother me if you do the same. Attractive people are just beautiful things in nature like a sunset or a mountain view. Go ahead and look. Enjoy. I don't want to stick my d**k in any of them.

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men We need just as much support as you do, it’s always a shock when a guys kills himself until you look back at all the subtle cries for help. We’re screaming on the inside and we need someone to let us know it’s okay.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Helplines for the men in the UK: https://www.safeline.org.uk/what-we-do/men/ https://www.mankind.org.uk/ https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/crisis-services/helplines-listening-services/ https://www.thecalmzone.net/

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men Men love being the target of a romantic gesture. Many men never have been.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When we we're dattting i left post-its with notes all around the house with litle hearts and my husband still talks about that 🥰

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However, Dan believes that even a lack of support can be a blessing in disguise. “A woman behaving like that in a relationship is often a blessing for a man. In many cases, a dissatisfied girlfriend or wife will drive a man to work harder and smarter, which can lead to the success of his passion project,” he said that some guys go the extra mile when they have something to prove to the people closest to them.

“He will have a 'must succeed' attitude, rather than only giving it a shot and seeing how it goes. That's often the difference between success and failure.”

#13

30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men We aren't great with hints. Communication is king.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, you put the trash by the front door for him to take out and him: "Honey I'm home" and steps over the trash.... Just kidding. Seriously, It's true, you men aren't great when it's a guessing (hinting) game. But if asked what to do most men don't mind that and will do it!

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men We actually really want to be complimented too. A 60 year old women complimented me 5 years ago and it still makes me feel good, which just shows how little we get compliments.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my best friend who is female told me when we first met 5 years ago my hair looks good short i have cut it short ever since and try to keep it short

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men Get away from me at night in the summertime, I still love you. I’m just hot and don’t want to snuggle.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A man like this would suit me just fine! Get away from me at night, every season. I don't mind snuggling for a few minutes but then I want my own side of the bed and my own cover. I'll be a much more romantic and pleasant woman during the day if I get a good sleep 😂.

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However, that’s not to say that support isn’t important. It is! And a lack of it can be a very clear indication that the relationship might not be working as well as it should. Passion projects, large or small, can help identify weaknesses in relationships by seeing how one’s partner reacts to them.

“If a man finds that no matter how much progress he makes, she still gets annoyed and doesn’t like him working on it, he needs to start thinking about whether or not she should remain part of his life,” the expert said.

“He doesn’t need to leave her right away, though. He should make real progress on his passion project and then, if she is still dissatisfied, he should calmly and lovingly let her know that he’s not going to stop working on it and if she doesn’t like that, she is welcome to leave him.”

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men It’s ok to make the first move. Guys can be shy too. Come talk to me instead of staring at me.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I made the first move with my now hubby. I approached him on the bus, didn't even know who he was.

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If you don’t want to hear the truth about something don’t ask me to tell you the truth. Because I’m going to tell you the truth every time.

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men When we say we're thinking about nothing, the majority of the time it literally is just nothing or ridiculous scenarios that we make up that sound stupid when said out loud.

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men When we tell women that we don’t know how we feel about something it’s usually true and we genuinely don’t really understand how we are supposed to feel. I personally wasn’t allowed to express emotions growing up and it turned into me not being able to understand my emotions.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, when you ask 'what are you thinking about' the answer 'nothing' is true. Trust me, a men's head can be completely vacant.

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men I really like to hang out with my friends because I love them. Not because I don't want to spend time with you.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People who are insecure about their SO spending time with their friends probably need to think about why that is, rather than taking it out on their SO.

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We aren’t unemotional, we just may not show it as often. It hurts when I’ve had to hear from my mother or sister say things like “you’re a guy, you aren’t good with your emotions” or “you don’t understand being emotional”. I do. I absolutely do. Saying things like “I don’t understand” in such an arrogant, condescending tone only makes me want to show them less.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's worth it to explain things. My mother used to snap at me "Don't you understand?!" She wouldn't explain what she meant and that left me feeling too stupid to be worthy of proper communication. It wasn't until I was 20 that I finally burst into tears and told her, "You always say that! If you want me to understand, you explain!" She communicated better after that.

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men All the hurtful things they say don’t just magically disappear from men’s memories. We have feelings too. And criticizing a man for being honest with feelings as not being manly is not only cruel but also highly ironic considering there’s a constant yearning for men with emotion.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope women really read this one. I have had partners say some truly heinous s**t to me over the years, things that I would never say, and then just brush it off with something like "I was stressed". Unfortunately, just because it wasn't a big deal to you doesn't mean that it won't still haunt me for years.

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men Not all men of course, and some women have it too but.......The nothing box is real.

The nothing box is a small section of the brain that contains absolutely nothing at all. When we enter the nothing box we genuinely are not thinking a single thought. There is no song playing in our head, there is no thought process, there's so much nothing that we don't even recognise at the time that we're not thinking anything, because to do so would be a thought. If someone looks like their brain has just checked out and they have a dead-eyed stare into middle distance then they're probably in the nothing box.

The passage of time ceases to exist, no physical sensation makes it through. Once in the nothing box, you stay in there until some external stimulus or the formation of an errant thought pulls you out of it. Leaving the nothing box is the first time that you are even aware you were in the nothing box.

It's like a nap for the brain while all other functions remain.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have some good moments doing this. Laying down, not thinking, just being

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#24

30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men I want real knight armor for my birthday but I’m not allowed to say so because society forces me to hide it.

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men If I’m lying in bed with someone, just enjoying the moment together, I should be able to just enjoy the moment and let my mind drift to wherever it’s going. If you want to talk about the future of the relationship or something, that’s great and we can do that if you start that conversation, but if you ask me out of the blue what I’m thinking about, and I say Bolbi’s “Slap slap slap” song from Jimmy Neutron, then you shouldn’t get mad at me just because it’s not the thing you wanted me to be thinking about! Just tell me you want to talk about the relationship and we can do that!

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#26

30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men Playing “hard to get” does not work for a lot of people.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Playing hard to get" is immoral to start with. It skews the understanding of rejection.

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#27

30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men If you take the initiative and ask an average looking dude out, there's like a 99% chance he'll say yes.

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When I get angry at my video games I’m not an angry person. I just f**kin suck at Dark Souls.

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Furious George
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

🤣🤣🤣 my wife gets so mad when I play call of duty because "it REALLY doesn't sound like I'm having fun".

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men Sometimes men just need some alone time. (From everyone and everything)

ToastyTheToastr , Priscilla Du Preez Report

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30 Things Women Don't Understand About Men When I say “I don’t mind,” I really mean it. If I did mind, I would say so.

MaygarRodub , cottonbro Report

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Janus Preez
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Esoecially with food - do you want beef or chicken ? I don't mind, I really don't mind, either one will do. I'm not indecisive, its just food

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