“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays
Interview With ExpertMany cultures have proverbs about respecting your elders. In theory, they've lived for longer, so they automatically have more experience, and with experience comes knowledge, right? Maybe some people would like to argue that wisdom doesn't come from how old you are. Yet you can't deny that people who have more years under their belt might have a different perspective on current trends and events.
Well, one netizen had the idea to ask older adults which current social norms and things they find strange. The user u/-----Diana----- wrote: "What's socially normal now that you disagree with?" The people on r/AskOldPeople shared some things they're not entirely on board with. And their answers are actually insightful, not the old-man-yells-at-cloud kind.
To know more about the 'Grumpy Old People' myth and why older people tend to disagree with modern social norms, Bored Panda reached out to Dr. Julie Erickson, a clinical psychologist and author of The Aging Well Workbook for Anxiety and Depression.
We also managed to have a conversation with the Redditor who started the discussion, u/-----Diana-----. The user from Romania was kind enough to tell us why she was curious about what older adults think of today's social norms. Read both interviews below!
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Our society being ok with total ignorance of science and some are even praised for it.
The reason the GOP doesn't "believe" science - is because they KNOW it can be twisted to lie. They know because they DO it all the time in "business". The tobacco industry? Is still paying the fines for their convictions. "Don't trust science! We've already twisted it!"
Load More Replies...The ignorance is not the problem. It's ok to be ignorant of some of the sciences. But to wilfully disregard the experts of the relative fields... That's just stupid.
Unless the 'experts' are being paid off or have other political motivations. History has shown that greed is just as damaging to scientific information as ignorance.
Load More Replies...But only if you approach it from a purely scientific vector. "Trust the science" is a marketing phrase.
100% as long as you admit there are quite a few people playing politics masquerading as "scientists"
I have a saying: "when science goes political, truth goes AWOL".
Load More Replies...Unfortunately, mainstream and social media have a habit of cherry picking parts of science to justify a political viewpoint and ignoring the whole science when it doesn't suit their agenda. Science only progresses when it is challenged constantly for new discoveries and updated information. 'Trust the science' is antithetical to actual science.
And how many politicians don't believe in the science that COULD have saved so many lives during Covid?
It's natural for people to have differing opinions. Sometimes, these opinions can differ because of age. And that's completely normal, too. Clinical psychologist and author of The Aging Well Workbook for Anxiety and Depression, Dr. Julie Erickson, says that different generations commonly have conflicting views over norms, values, and beliefs.
"Each generation has 'cohort beliefs,' which are beliefs held by people born at a similar time period," Dr. Erickson tells Bored Panda. "These beliefs are shaped by a variety of different social, political, cultural, environmental, technological, and economic factors of the time."
But to say that "all elderly people hate technology" would be too simplistic and untrue. And, honestly, pretty ageist. There's much more nuance to it than that. "It's important to recognize that there is tremendous individual variability in the extent to which older adults accept new social norms," Dr. Erickson observes. "Some older adults are quite capable of evolving their worldview. It's an ageist assumption that older adults are stuck in their ways or more resistant to change."
The widespread inability to spell words correctly or use them properly ( e.g. Their , There , They're ) and don't get me started on grammar.
Was always the case, we just get exposed to it more because everyone has easy access to post all over the place. It's more the lazy ones like U and Ur that annoy me.
Not knowing the difference between loose and lose, spelling paid as payed, and should of/would of instead of should have/would have are my bug-bears. I also detest that ridiculous usage of Capitalizing All The Words in your sentence, Even If They Aren't Proper Nouns. Why Do People Do This? It Looks Messy And It's Hard To Read And Takes A Lot Longer To Type.
"Effect" and "affect". It's unbelievable how often I come across this confusion. One is a noun, the other a verb. Totally different !!!!!!
I remember diagramming sentences in elementary school. I’m not sure that happens anymore, alas. 😔
For my grade school nuns, diagramming sentences was the eighth sacrament.
Load More Replies...There's a difference between bad grammar (to versus too) and slang (u, lol, ur)
The last few years I've seen more and more wrong uses of "then" and "than". Not sure how much could be voice to text, autocorrect, or whatever. It's so annoying! I wish people would learn and understand the difference between them.
This post is funny because in the example "their", "there" and "they're" ARE spelled correctly and you already "started on grammar" because the their/there thing is a grammatical mistake not a spelling mistake. But yes - if English is your primary language it would be nice if folks had a grasp of it.
The post stated "spell words correctly OR use them properly" before the example.
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Everything. I'm old. Get off my lawn.
and for your physical safety, do not turn around in my driveway!
The clinical psychologist says that some studies suggest the personality trait we call 'agreeableness' increases as people age. "That being said, as we get older, we tend to prefer what is familiar and personally meaningful," she also notes. "This can make some people less open to new experiences or worldviews."
When the world's changing so fast and in so many ways, it can become harder and harder to keep up with current trends. And that includes not only knowing who the most popular celebrities are or what the latest fashion trend is. It's more about things like what words or phrases might be inappropriate to use.
Kids (and some adults, but I mostly see kids) with tablets or phones at full volume out in public. I have no interest in hearing other people's games, videos, music or phone conversations.
I see this far more with retirees than with younger folks. Phone on speaker, full volume, blabbing it up about nothing regardless of setting. I don’t need forty minutes of Sylvia’s infected toenails.
Yup. My nephew's tablet is usually silent when he's playing games. But I've had to admonish both of my parents at some point to stop watching videos on their phones at full volume. :)
Load More Replies...I remember 'boom boxes' on the buses in the 1980s/90s, so not a generational thing imo. There are AHs all through history.
An (humorous Star Trek 4 image) example, ;-) maxresdefa...555814.jpg
Not just kids, grown @ssed adults in the library! earphones, folks!
That’s why I always have a earbud so I’m not interrupting people and I can tune said interrupters out
One time I was at a haircut place waiting and there was a kid, maybe 5, with an iPad. On either YouTube shorts or tiktok. And one short was playing Insane (Black Gryph0n, fairly sure it's supposed to be Hazbin hotel) yeah kid ik it's fire but can you not play it at full volume when I'm trying to get a haircut? Edit: autocorrect lol
It's older people I usually see---talking loudly on their phone in the bank
Me: Hey, how have you been?
Them: Haven't you seen my posts on [social media platform]?
Me: I'm trying to have a conversation with you, not subscribe to your newsletter.
I wouldn't, yet. A simple "I don't use social media" or "I'm not on faceache" would do. If they accept it and move on, then all is well and good. If however, they get angry or preachy and start questioning why I'm not on them and telling me that I should use them, well at that point turning and walking away seems like a fair response :)
Load More Replies...I don't have Facebook and have noticed that people will talk about their lives to me as if I have access to such information. So if you did not tell me directly or in a message, I have no clue you got a truck/moved or whatever.
Me too! I have FB and Instagram but I rarely look. I really only keep them for the pictures I have posted or mostly of ones other people have posted of me.
Load More Replies...I don't get this. Is it really so hard to have a conversation nowadays I mean I'm not that great at it but still come on
I feel mixed about this one. If the conversation is going to be about some major life events they posted about - then knowing if the other person saw those posts tells them where to start in the explanation. But I'd probably word it differently. Like -- "Did you see my post about (my surgery / my dad passing / etc) ?"
Or similarly, people think liking or commenting on posts is keeping in touch.
Being mad at me because I don't automatically know your pronouns... Just tell me if I'm wrong in a nice way and I'll adapt.
People changing their naturally born pronouns and expecting the entire world to magically know something which took them years to find out for themselves and exploding on them is the biggest douche move. Congratulations! You know yourself more fully now, but it doesn't give you the right to be a rude a*****e about it when others don't know. They expect people to know in an instant what took them years, maybe even decades, to find out for themselves. You're an idiot who thinks you now have an excuse to be rude and the masses will back you up because you are "different". People aren't hating on you because your pronouns don't align with the "traditional" sense; they're hating on you because you are an obnoxious, entitled a*****e.
I'd only get upset if someone flat out refused to use correct pronouns after me telling them kindly what they are (and not like them forgetting, just refusing to acknowledge them and being homophobic about it). Otherwise, my pronouns are she/they but if you accidentally call me a he I do not care whatsoever. Online/in comments I might not even bother correcting it lol
Load More Replies...I really don't care what your pronouns are. I will, however, address you with respect.
I'm just not interested in what anybody's pronouns are. Do your thing, but don't put it on me.
Load More Replies...Indeed, no one's pronouns are written with big red letters on their forehead.
nobody cares. Live your life but don't expect me to cater to your fantasies.
This is a distinctly western controversy. In africa we're still trying to get countries like uganda to not give death sentences. Fortunately SA (my country) has enough western elements to be less traditionalist about it. But we don't do the thing of putting pronouns after our names.
Yeah my parents come from North Africa. I wouldn't imagine that topic arriving there either... I feel that many Westerners don't realise how far we've gone on tolerance, as the 'Bigot' / 'Racist' accusations are overly common in Western Europe....Which is the region which has the greatest number of homosexuals, women, or people of foreign descent as high ranking public officials, without the population making a big fuss about it.
Load More Replies...You don't own grammar. Be mad all you want or just treat me the way you like to be treated.
Please!! Don't assume that I'm a d**k, correct me. I may forget also, I have a s****y memory, I am not trying to be rude, I genuinely don't remember. I know someone who's pronouns have changed, I rarely interact with them but I always forget when I'm referring to them, not because I don't care, I just genuinely forget about it in the moment.
Adding: I knew them for 20 years under one way, I try and get internally excited when I do remember, but it slips out more often than I'd ever like to admit.
Load More Replies...If we just met for the first time and you inform me of your pronouns, it's easy for me. But if I've known you a couple of decades and you decide to change your pronouns, then bare with me. I have a friend who got married 5 years ago and I still forget to use her married name.
Really? I have the opposite, I find using people's names instead of pronouns so incredibly uncomfortable. "Mike told me he needs to go to the store because his phone is broken" is an easy sentence, but "Mike told me Mike needs to go to the store because Mike's phone is broken".... I just cannot get through a sentence like that, I find that so awkward to say.
Load More Replies...Some people grow more anxious as they age because they feel like the world might be leaving them behind. Dr. Erickson says that this is a concern for people who subscribe to the narrative that it's all downhill from a certain age.
"We forget about everything we gain as we get older: wisdom, maturity, emotional stability, a clearly defined sense of self, not sweating the small stuff as much, and plenty of experience solving problems. It's about finding a way to use these strengths in a changing world," she explains.
Its now socially normal to not use caps or punctuation so that your thoughts are all one single stream of consciousness and really hard to read like reading ulysses but the kids dont even know or care what that is because they just want to get their thoughts all out at once without any regard for the reader and the annoyance it is to try to figure out what they are saying Signed: A pained English major.
It's a low key sense of entitlement that someone else will pick up what they're trying to say. If they don't, oh well, people are disposable and I'll find someone who will put up with my horse s**t. They do this enough and turn around to play the victim card because no one understands them. Of course they don't. They tried telling you, but you didn't care. Now you don't have anyone, are living with the consequences, and STILL want to push the responsibility off on someone else when YOU are to blame.
Their academic writing assignments are looking more and more this way everyday, too. It's sad, really.
I don't even read those posts - I just reply with, "periods end sentences."
It's not just the kids either. At least they have an excuse. It's when adults don't use commas or paragraphs, abbreviate YOU to U and all the other crimes against clear writing, that I get really mad. I am not against some language evolution. I am behind words like "Though" and "although" acquiring a more sane spelling. But butchering the written language so that it makes me want to skip reading is counterproductive.
I'm surprised how often I see this from people older than I am. Decades ago there was a newspaper column that was supposed to have been written by a cockroach named Archie, who hopped from key to key on a typewriter to write it. It was a cute conceit because it was unique. It should have stayed that way
Being around others while obviously sick. It’s been normalized because we have a garbage safety net that doesn’t allow people financially to take care of themselves and not make others sick. Or allow them to be off work to care for sick children. 40 years ago when unions were strong there were lots of sick days in lots of jobs and people mostly were able to stay home when really sick, in professional or union jobs anyway. There’s always been a segment of the working population that got screwed. But now more than ever we need generous sick leave policies in place for EVERYONE.
Corporations have groomed people into believing that taking sick time is a bad thing, that they aren't team players. Then the government started doing the same thing with covid and took away that safety net. STAY HOME when you are sick. If you physically can not then put on a damned MASK for everyone else's sake. It is NOT a sign of weakness, rather a sign of strength.
True. And it is absolutely disgusting and deplorable that this happens in the wealthiest country in the world,
Load More Replies...Wealthy business owners are now calling that idea of having time to care for your family "socialism". They would like women to return to a life of barefoot kitchen-based pregnancy ... so that there remains an overworked and desperate male workforce prepared to accept c**p jobs for low pay ... cause they gotta feed the ever-expanding fam. People can have good pay and respect, while ALSO being paid enough to live (see France and the 35 hr. workweek).
I had a therapist who always showed up to our sessions, whether he was ill or not. This was before masks were an everyday thing. Sitting in a small room with a man who is coughing up a lung while asking me about my childhood is not conducive to fruitful therapy.
I’m only staying home if I’m sick for more than two days or have a fever or other major things, just to make sure I’m actually sick and not overreacting
Yeah but then the richy richies can't get even more rich. America sucks.
Even in the medical field we're penalized for not coming in when we're sick. And working with patients who can die from the common cold because of other chronic conditions. It's enraging.
Since this is the Ask Old People category, I disagree with people being dismissive because I am old. I have at least one more sucker punch left in me for the next ‘ok boomer’ comment I get in person.
When my father was in his 70s & 80s, he would get annoyed by the "ageism" shown to him when out in public, at stores and even in the nursing home lived in for the last six months of his life. I'm not saying it's worse than the other "-isms" but it definitely is the one that seems ignored. This isn't about being treated differently because of dementia (how those people are treated is a whole other story), it was a much wider range of behaviours shown to him, including being talked to like he did have dementia, because people would presume he did. He would get frustrated and tell me "they treat me like I'm stupid" when an incident happened. He wasn't, his only crime was being an older person.
I am, myself - an elder. Fully functional mentally - but unlikely to show you that if you are a standard-issue "under-40" You have taught me- us - that you do not have the patience to talk, really talk. And we are not interested in meaningless trivia. Show us you have time to listen - and you'll find out..
Load More Replies...I'm going to take advantage of it once I'm at that age...like this woman who boarded tons of flights without a ticket and no one noticed: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/serial-stowaway-marilyn-hartman-b1817690.html
Load More Replies...My grandmother used to say to be nice to old people. They most likely won't go to prison. If they do, they really won't care that much because they have one foot in the grave :) So, be nice to the elderly 1) out of respect that they have experience more life than you and survived and 2) because they have nothing to lose punching a rude moron like you in the mouth.
Love this! Youngsters forget we “old foggies” a) have already been there, did that, got the T-shirt and b) already know that you, younger people, will eventually be where we are now.
Load More Replies...I actually love that I'm pretty much invisible to most people now, unless I'm in the mood to interact. I'm 60 and have yet to be treated as "old" by anyone, so my feelings may change when that starts happening.
In my most recent position, we installed some new software, and after a few weeks of using it, I mentioned the need for a uniform naming scheme for adding data - I was told that I needed to learn to "embrace change". You idiot! There were NO computers when I started working! My whole career has been embracing change! Across industries, companies, positions! I have been here many times before - I am trying to help - don't write me off like I don't know what the hell I'm talking about!
Bored Panda also had a short chat with u/-----Diana-----, the author of this thread. "I got the idea for the question one morning when lying in bed," the young Redditor tells us. The user shared how she lives in a Romanian village where a big portion of the population is over 50. "They have lots to complain about," the Redditor chuckled.
I'm really not comfortable will all the ads for betting and sports book platforms.
We can’t advertise alcohol, pharmaceuticals or nicotine in my country. However, we can advertise gambling. Guess which country has the highest amount of gambling losses? Edit to give more facts… we have HALF the entirety of the worlds slot machines, and the government gets 30% of every dollar put into them. And then add another 40% of tax from the owners of the slot machines for any gains on said slot machines.
How about all the ambulance chasing lawyer ads? And prescription d**g ads? They almost always say"side effects include...or death!"
I enjoy the list of side effects because they usually include possibilities more severe than whatever they're supposed to treat.
Load More Replies...I remember when gambling on sports was 'unseemly' and perhaps even immoral. Now it's mainstream and ever present, especially during major sporting events like the Super Bowl. It just seems so unnecessary to me
well, duh, because The Great Lord Trump builds gambling casinos - so that and grabbing - is obviously totally morally correct now!
Load More Replies...I come from puritanical Massachusetts. We now have sports betting and casinos. Betting seems to cheapen everything it touches. I am proud of how liberal we have become but gambling just seems sad and foolish.
They just brought in sports betting in my state and all the males and some females seem to be yelling across the floor about it. This is a call center. There's only two of us that are spending out time on the phones!
There's adds for sports book platforms in CA and you can't even bet on sports in CA!!!! I'm not a big gambler, but I like to throw down a few bucks during March Madness or a football game once in a while. I could see how it would be hard on people with a gambling problem seeing those though.
Not being willing or able to just be superficially nice in social settings. Sometimes it's *okay* to just be pleasant instead of making your unique and specific viewpoint heard.
Pretending we're all fine when we're not has, in my opinion, acerbated a lot of mental health issues. Better to talk them out then act them.
Tipping on everything. Especially with those iPads that spin around and awkwardly ask you for 10% because someone got you a muffin from behind the counter. Make it end.
This is an everybody thinks this thing. It’s making for a hostile purchasing experience.
just...tipping. *screams into capitalist void* pay people a living wage!!!!!!!!
take care of your vocal cords- you could hurt yourself that way...
Load More Replies...Pay cash and no one is throwing their ipad into your face begging for more. Oh and stand there until they give you the change. Sorry, you aren't getting a tip for filling the cup with liquid. That is literally your job.
But that's micro-aggression because you are forcing them to do math and count change. /S
Load More Replies...You gotta love the US. You pay for the goods AND you can also contribute to pay the waiter / waitress so they make an average salery seperately to that.
I can't remember who said it but was a prominent American who pointed our basically the country would collapse without illegal immigrants and paying their own citizens borderline slave wages.
Load More Replies...I’ve started just pressing “no tip” and, honestly, I think the counter workers are pretty much over it at this point; they seem to not expect it or don’t care
Easy way to make it end: campaign for a higher minimum wage for service workers
The end of tipping occurs when we all change the social structure and there is no longer a need to tip. Raise the minimum wage. Advocate universal healthcare. Rebuild the social safety net. Strengthen the labor unions. We cannot end tipping by not tipping. That's just taking advantage of the situation and cheating the people out of the tip money that they rely on for survival.
I read a lot that not tipping your tattoo artist would be soo rude. What's that sh*t? Doesn't he decide, how much I pay? Does he live on minimum wage? And needs the tip? No. He's f*ck*ng expensive. And he decides how much to charge for his art. So why is social media trying to force me, to give him more than he demands? My last tattoo was 2000€. And yes, you could say that the tip would show appreciation. But I think, I already showed you respect and appreciation for your art by agreeing to pay 2000€.
The inspiration for the question came from a lady in her mid-70s, u/-----Diana----- tells us. She overheard the woman complaining about how her grandchildren were always on their phones. The Redditor then went to r/AskOldPeople to ask the older adults what things the younger generation does nowadays that bother them. "The answers there tend to be intriguing generally," the user adds.
The assumption that if you say one thing you automatically believe something else. For example if you say that we should look at tightening up our gun control laws, that automatically means you're anti-gun and want to take away everybody's guns.
Yes, the total inability to appreciate nuanced arguments. "If you're not with us, your against us" mentality that just breeds polarisation.
It's a weaponized form of primitive tribalism - "this is what we believe" - if you don't; you're out.
Load More Replies...I am republican.That doesn't mean I'm racist or hate other people who don't agree with me. There are things republican that I disagree with & some democratic things I agree with.
You may need to notice that the "party" - has left YOU...
Load More Replies...Some Dems.(me included) want to ban assault rifles. So, of course, Trump says Biden "wants to take all of your guns away" and many believe him.
Every time Trump opens that sphincter on his face, lies emerge. This is what he does.
Load More Replies...Exactly. Laws are useless unless enforced. But criminals will find a way around laws. It's in their name.
Load More Replies...Australia has somewhat strict gun control laws. We've had less school shootings in our entire history than America's had in the last year, if not less than that
Interestingly enough we now have more legally owned guns in Australia that we did before the gun buyback and the change in laws as a result of Port Arthur. And we haven't had another random mass shooting like that since. There have been shootings, quite a few gang related ones (no amount of laws will stop those) but nothing like the scale you see in the US. The rest of the shootings tend to be family related (which is horrible) but even taking away the guns, they'll find another means.
Load More Replies...Yep. Apparently a lot of people don't think moderates exist anymore.
I own cats, therefore I hate dogs. Not even close. I'm not subjecting a poor, sweet hearted dog to my cranky, elderly girls.
That's simple tribalism. If you're not 100% with me, you're 100% the enemy.
Playing with your phone while in the presence of live conversation.
Parents looking at their phones while their young children play around them is a sad sight to see.
Or young children absorbed in a phone when with their parents. I am saddened to see children handed a phone when they start to fuss a little. Parents aren't teaching their children coping mechanisms at all. Children are only little for a very short time, engage with them, teach them, enjoy them.
Load More Replies...Or seeing couples, or entire families, sitting at a restaurant eating together except their absorbed in their screens. One time I even saw a couple out to eat and the guy was watching a game and the woman was watching some sitcom and they both had the volume up. My household has a "no phones at meals" policy and when we go out to eat we talk and laugh together. Strangely we get angry looks from the screen zombies when we start laughing together.
Or while walking a dog. I always think about how poor puppy was waiting home alone all day for his/her master to come, yet this is as much attention as they'll get.
If I'm listening, looking at you just gets in the way of understanding what you say, especially if you have a blatantly false smile on your face.
It's the modern version of whispering behind your hand in public. Rude AF.
Politics being your entire identity. They did this to us on purpose to divide us.
"Religion" being your entire identity, "ethnicity" being your entire identity...
An aside to the 'ethnicity' comment. If you are born in the US, you are American. NOT an Italian-American, an Irish-American, etc. You might have Irish heritage or your grandparents came from Italy. But insisting that you are some hyphenate is a way of setting yourself apart, and sometimes above, other Americans. Some days I want to say to a person I know that if he finds being some ethnic group outside the US so important, then maybe he's in the wrong place. The challenge of BEING American is that we ALL (except the Indigenous peoples....and even THEY came from somewhere else 10,000 to 20,000 years ago) came from somewhere else for a reason (most of us, not true for many people of color). That reason is almost always for a better life. Why come to a melting pot country and set yourself apart. If you were born in the US or have American citizenship, then you are an American. American. Take pride in THAT and make this a better place for all, instead of somehow setting yourself apart.
Load More Replies...Affirmative! Also, shame should only apply to things that involve guilt. When I remember how a friend was treated due to being an incontinent girl in puberty ... oh my. A - from then, former - friend threw her clothes out of the window of the girls' room when only the two of them were present anymore, to make her go outside wearing a diaper and nothing over it (she didn't hide it anymore because it was pointless ... those having the capacity required weren't exactly small, then, but pretty bulky, ... but, the girls' room and outside aren't the same place). That was just cruel, and none of her fault, but one of very few incidents - she ripped of heads pretty often, a skill learned by needing to execute it in order to depower the humiliating AHs...
Load More Replies...Honestly, this could go with literally anything. Religion, politics, ethnicity, how to cook your pasta......people just wanna fight.
I'm interested in politics but I don't make my political beliefs the only part of my personality, that's a crappy thing to do. be a person, have interests for the love of God
Your job or your title being your identity, you stil are just Marc or Lauren.
and apparently what u wear or who u like… “oh your wearing overalls? you must be immature.” “oh you like so and so? you must be clueless.”
u/-----Diana----- also told us that she's heard her fair share of complaints about young people from her grandparents. "They're both about to turn 70 years old this year," she says. According to the Redditor, they like to talk about how the young generation is self-absorbed and how people became worse and worse after the demise of Nicolae Ceaușescu and the fall of the communist regime in Romania.
Peak Cpitalism; the wealthy amassing even more wealth and not caring about a decent life for everybody.
But making sure that they vote for more benefits, getaways with murders, criminal activity of the rich because they share a hate.
Load More Replies...Makes me wonder who do they intend to sell their products to, if there is no one left to buy them.
I sincerely believe that, for a plurality of rich people, being rich would not feel as good if there weren't also poor people
There's nothing wrong with capitalism, but it needs some regulation. How much is up for debate, but I would agree that it needs more than we currently have in the US.
Nothing wrong with capitalism? Do you live under a rock?
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Declarations of "body count" to dating partners. I don't like the violent implication of the term, and I don't like intimate history being tallied like a score.
Prior sexual acts are not "crimes", so nobody needs to know. The only thing that is a new partner's business is having an STD.
I've never asked someone that, and I've never counted for myself. It's not a competition and it's not too relevant to your relationship with that person. I have no idea how many people my wife has slept with, it could be 1 or 1000, it makes little difference.
It's predominately insecure men wanting to know how many other men a woman slept with. The underlying fear is that his sexual prowess would be inferior to past partners, and the chance of her actually knowing what good sex should be like increases the more experience she has
Load More Replies...My partner and I have never discussed it in those terms or that specifically. We both know each others histories in terms of our previous spouses / long term partners (we both have children from previous marriages) so clearly we are aware of each others exes but ‘body count’ really? Nope, life isn’t a competition or some sort of tally chart, ex-partners are not just a notch on a bedpost they are human beings. Respect your own partner by being honest but also respect your ex-partners by not reducing them to a number.
Not mentioned yet is the origin of the term "body count." The US newspapers of the late 60s and early 70s would often have a weekly tally of known or claimed casualties in the Vietnam war. If the tally was higher for the North Vietnamese, then the US was "winning." This ads a sinister aspect to using the term about the number of past sexual partners.
Never saying NO not your child.
It sounds very «boomer» - I know.
But I have two kids born early 2000s and one child born 2015, and just wow how many more kids are brats now.
Don’t get me wrong, kids have always been kids and act out, but now they are more rude.
We have always had the whole class in kids birthday and it has always been insane and loud, but with my youngest class I just can’t do it.
I call it laissez-faire parenting. No, you do need to teach your children respect and appropriate behavior.
... but, you have to accept that evetually somebody will, if you opt not to. That, peope seem very unfine with. A kid who found it funny to throw sticks at a dog who waited for his human has met me, and I didn't do more than take away the sticks and tell it not to. It (I don't know if it was a girl or a boy) screamcried like I'd have ripped off a leg or so. Mother, suddenly around then, screamed at me. I just, basically, walked away and evaded her by being a fast walker, as she didn't stop nor listen.
Load More Replies...Never say NO to your child?? Then how do you expect your child to handle the small and big disappointments and refusals that are part of life? By throwing a tantrum? How else will they develop resilience if you don't tell them NO if it's appropriate?
This. I think we have witnessed what happens when someone is told "no" in one way or another. *COUGH a certain former president COUGH*
Load More Replies...How about the parents who expect school teachers to teach children proper behavior and respect? For Pete's sake, that's the job of parents!
After many decades in education, I am now ok with parents who expect school to teach proper behaviour. Now we have to deal with parents who do not believe we have any right to challenge poor behaviour. Even asking a child to stay 10 minutes behind at brake to talk about behaviour will have some texting home and result in the teacher getting vile emails and nasty personal comments on social media from parents. Job is getting harder all the time.
Load More Replies...I was a teacher/Prof for many years ending in 2007. I'm SOOOOOO glad I'm not teaching now.
As a teacher, I really hate the "but I worked hard on this so I should make an A" and the "I made an A in--insert subject here--high school." I just tell them, "I'm working real hard to find a sugar daddy so I can quit working, but that's not working out. Understand?" Most times, they get what I mean. Everybody gets a trophy is b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t.
I completely agree with you! I find myself wondering why these parents bothered to have kids if they are not going to raise them to be competent adults. And competent adults can handle the idea that there are things that they are not allowed to do. We have two adult kids. And while I'm sure there are things that they didn't like about their upbringing, they are responsible adults and they have manners and are considerate of others.
There is a fashion now for giving kids no boundaries at all. I met a girl being raised that way and she was absolutely insufferable.
I will say as a millennial, most millennial parents are horrible. Little Johnny bastard is a Saint according to mum and dad. Can't blame him apparently while he's lighting a restraunt table cloth on fire in front of mum and dad. Also the reason teachers have reached epic burnout and face threats and violence at record levels.
No joke, kids are fighting more in school and are completely rude to teachers and other adults, like, none of them have ever been given boundaries or rules or expectations of any kind. I'm glad I had my kids early and they're just older than the current batch. I only have one left in school and he's only got three years left.
You hear stores (BP) about kids who have to wear diapers because their parents couldnt be bothered to train them to use the toilet. Teachers are not nannies.
However, u/-----Diana----- agrees with some things the older people shared in this thread. She feels sad about how many young people of her generation seem to spend too much time on their phones and are not living in the moment. And while she thinks that the rise of loneliness might be imminent, she remains optimistic. All we need is some meaningful human contact, she says.
My grandfather used to tell me that who you vote for is private. He and his wife never even shared with one another which candidate won their vote. I wish that was the case in modern times.
My brother didn't. He told me if his wife didn't vote for you-know-who (he's European, so take your pick) he would get a divorce. Absolute insanity.
Load More Replies...And that's part of the problem. They are things that need to be discussed.
Load More Replies...Yes, even if asked I decline to answer this. Its none of their business.
Load More Replies...If you're not compelled to share - and you aren't - what does it matter if other people choose to do so?
My parents were the same, it was never discussed. Any one asks me, I say with a pen
A couple of things but the biggest one by far is the ear bud culture which just bleeds into a level of rudeness and isolation that’s unsettling. You might find small talk tedious but I promise you, the connection to the outside world that small talk creates is a gift to you. Humans aren’t meant to be so isolated.
As a parent I give a lot of rides. I can’t tell you how many teens have gotten into my car without even a simple hi or hello and sat there silently with their head in their phone and their ear pods in.
Say hi. Talk about the weather for a minute. It might be dumb but we are human and civility and connection matter. Otherwise all you’ve got is that phone and your ear buds. It’s kind of a bleak existence.
Depends on the situation. If I get into a small space like a car with just you, yeah, a good morning and some small talk okay. But on the bus? Nope, ear buds in and head down. Leave me alone.
It's an interesting question. Are they always digital zombies though, or is it just around certain people? I can understand wanting minimal interaction with strangers, and I'd bet that most teens once around their friends are likely vociferous. Sometimes that's on them, sometimes it's taught behaviour too. Parents telling them kids should be seen not heard sticks after awhile, so they will only talk to peers not adults or "old people".
Load More Replies...I'm an introvert that processes the world through music. I should be able to talk to WHO I want to talk to. I'm not being rude intentionally. It's that the world is full of extroverts who like talking about themselves.
It's definitely not rude to want to keep to yourself. The extroverts are the rude ones.
Load More Replies...This is obnoxious and pushy. No-one in the world OWES you small talk, and your forcing interaction on other people is absolutely NOT a “gift” to anyone. If you see someone out in public with headphones in, THEY DON’T WANT TO TALK TO YOU. Just leave them alone. Obviously one’s own children are sometimes an exception, but no-one owes you interaction.
Do anyone ever express their thanks for the ride. I'm doubting it.
I'm always gonna defend the digital morning zombies in the public transport as I'm also one. Though saying tired hellos to bus driver and someone you might know is usually expected.
The way that men are starting to call women "females" but when referring to men they say "men". We are not lab specimens dude.
I feel like they'd be like "No no, I love *whispers* women."
Load More Replies...Unparallel language is used to espouse sexism, like man and wife. Also using “she” for objects like boats, cars, etc.
I heard an epic clapback from a friend last week. She refers to the male species as "penile projections."
Ah come on we have to keep this one it helps us identify the losers who are trying to hit on people
I don't always want to say women and girls, so I say females to include all ages. However I follow whatever my precedent is for the sentence i.e. females/males, women/men, girls/boys. Generalizations are just that, it's supposed to be the majority.
That every white woman who complains is a Karen. Sometime it’s a legitimate complaint. Calling someone a Karen on Social Media has become such a lazy comeback for when you don’t agree with someone who appears to be female online.
I would go further ... "Karen" memes are the new "Dumb Blonde" jokes: Misogyny that women have been co-opted into repeating.
I haven't seen anyone being called a "Karen" for making legitimate complaints... but it could happen, yes. The "Karen" thing has more to do with pettiness and complaining just for the sake of asserting some kind of false "dominance" over other people.
A bunch of people on Reddit called me a Karen because I was asking if I should complain about a fitting room attendant insisting upon always putting me in the accessible stall and, after I pointed out that putting everyone in the accessible stall by default was kinda unfair to people who actually needed it because they might get stuck waiting a while when there are three empty stalls because the only occupied stall happens to be the only one they can use and maybe she shouldn’t be putting people there unless it’s absolutely necessary (like if it’s the only one available), claimed that it WAS absolutely necessary and that disabled people never ask to try on clothes anyway.
Load More Replies...I honestly always thought the name Karen was nice.......now I associate it with blond, bob-cut, forty-year-old Christian soccer moms with too much makeup who write mean stuff on Facebook, and I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that. Mostly negative.
The whole “Karen” thing is really another form of misogyny and ageism. It is exclusively directed at women and esp older women. I’m really sick of it. People who think of themselves as feminists still go around wielding the “Karen” insult and it just makes them look like total philistines!
It falls into one of the categories of invalid argument: ad hominem attack.
Karen’ has been whitewashed like most things to avoid calling white people what we are, ...racist.
I have certainly given retail/call center service to Karen's of all ethnicity and color. Some are even male!
I don't get why it's wrong to use punctuation when texting.
Also why can't they spell out the words! Seriously, you don't pay by the character anymore. Misspelling and no punctuation, or the dreaded all caps/no caps is not a flex.
Right! I'm so confused by all the abbreviations. I used to try to sit there and figure it out, like what would make sense, but now a lot of times I just don't even care. I will never use them though. Except maybe LOL!
Load More Replies...I can't reply directly to kansasmagic because of the down votes, but I would like to point out his or her statement "If you get the meaning of a text who cares if there is proper punctuation" makes the whole point. Without correct punctuation and spelling who knows if the reader gets the meaning? It's difficult enough to correctly interpret text without facial expression and tone, so why make it even more difficult?
And now this translates to young workers not being able to type a professional email. It makes them appear uneducated and they refuse to understand.
The dumbing down of US citizens is frightening - Trump says thank you.
Recording everything.
Recording fights. Recording car crashes. Recording traffic stops (your own or others) when cops have body cams and dash cams already. Recording people in the gym (yourself or others), recording in public and getting mad at pedestrians for ‘ruining the shot’.
Heck, people were even standing there like insane people recording the Super Bowl parade shooting. Like dude…LEAVE THE AREA OR HIDE. Don’t stand there drooling with a phone in your hand for internet clout or to sell it to the news.
Cops are infamous for turning off or obscuring their cameras when they know they're doing something illegal, people recording things has helped expose things that otherwise would lack the kind of evidence needed to take them to task. Additionally, while recording events like a shooting are terrible, footage like that has been used by law enforcement to apprehend perpetrators. It's not exclusively a negative thing.
Cops should not be able to control their cameras without alarm bells going on back at the station. When using the bathroom, they should have to notify the station beforehand. The damage a bad cop does far outweighs the inconvenience to the good cops. And frankly if the good cops would hold the bad cops accountable, things would be different.
Load More Replies...Disagree except for in private areas like a locker room. There have been MANY cases of crimes solved / justice brought by bystanders taking video / pictures. There has been more than one recent case of the bystander videos ultimately convicting abusive cops who had "body cams and dash cams" but lied in their reports / "accidentally" had their body cams off and so on.
Always film the police. They are given a lot of power over the general public and need to be held accountable at every turn.
Sorry. If I'm getting pulled over by the cops, I'm at least recording audio.
I partially agree-- in some cases it's a safety issue, you record to "cover your butt". That said, if there's something going on and someone needs help PUT THE PHONE AWAY AND HELP. There will be plenty of other people out there doing the recording for you; you don't need to add to it.
If it is something that will later be used as evidence to exonerate or convict someone, go for it. Otherwise you're being a tool
"when cops have body cams and dash cams already". Yes, that suddenly seem to stop working when it suits them!
Police brutality aside, I fully agree. Especially recording kids (or adults) in vulnerable moments when what they need is guidance and assurance from a safe parent. It is vile how so many parents just start recording whenever their child is crying and then post it for others to laugh at.
Children having access to social media.
I think nothing good comes of it.
I got other parent friends who have no issue with their kids scrolling tiktok, or being on whatsapp groups (I was an older mum, my kid is still primary school age).
(She says, acknowledging the irony of posting this on reddit).
Schoolkids getting beaten up because of a comment under a FB post - it's becoming pretty "normal" nowadays...
Or worse, being bullied so relentlessly they only see one final way out.
Load More Replies...After my divorce, my ex let our daughter have fb. She was in 6th grade. I was always against it because she would end up with adult "friends" that post adult stuff. Her dad posted something extremely adult. I messaged him and told him he just posted the number one reason I didn't want our daughter to have fb. He said he forgot she was on there and deleted his post.
I think kids having social media is ok if it's supervised. Most parents wouldn't let a five year old wander off to the park or shopping centre unaccompanied and talk with random strangers, so why allow that online? But if little Timmy and Sally are on Facebook and talking to their friends/cousins is that really so bad? Especially if Mum or Dad checks on it.
I slowly transitioned by kids to social media while insisting I have full access to their accounts. They were okay with that because they at least got to "finally" have accounts. We started with safer platforms like Pinterest, then onto FB because it's primarily their older family members on there, then Instagram (which had a few bumps and moments of me having talks with them about what you could and couldn't put out there for others to see) and at 17 they finally earned Snapchat because I'd rather them get taste of freedom before adulthood. There's also limits to the time they can spend on them.
My children were thankfully in their mid-teens when cell phone usage became a thing. Of course in those days, schools didn't allow cell phones out. If you brought a cell phone to school, it stayed locked in their locker until dismissal. As a result, kids talked to each other, they joined clubs - basically they took interest in the rest of their world. Now kid's lives are defined by around 15 or fewer square inches. They play games during class, text each other during class.....nothing like fostering rudeness and ignorance.
Some websites and apps are safer than others. Some are made specifically for children. I'd argue that we would all be better off without Whatsapp.
I went for a walk at a park recently. There was a guy entering the trail while holding his phone out and talking into it. Everyone got to hear his c**p instead of the relaxing nature sounds. Isn’t he special?
Since he wants to share his conversation with you, feel free to join in.
I join the conversation. You don't want me in it,.take it off speaker.
Why is it the fashion to talk to your phone like you’re eating a piece of bruschetta ? A lady at work does it and she’s always struggling with her dictation.
But how else would you and everyone else know that Jerry dropped the ball and didn't deliver the 42 boxes of Dogleg Reamers!?
I think it was more a hiking trail, and it seemed as if he must have been talking really loud so that you could hear him from far away.
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People posting their entire lives online. I'm probably excessively private but it's really crazy how people are so willing and even eager to broadcast their personal lives to the world.
I don't think people fully appreciate how possible it is to string together little details from multiple sources and form a detailed picture of someone's life. That should scare people.
I think that's about to get a lot scarier. I came across a tool that uses AI-powered facial recognition to search the web. I tried it with my own face using a fairly old low-resolution social-media profile pic in which part of my face is covered with a graphic. I don't have much of a web presence but it found pictures of me in a bar in another country, with different hair, beard etc, that my sister put on Insta. I couldn't help but think how easily this could be abused.
What is the name of the tool? Link? It sounds interesting. I don't have a secret life to hide but I'm curious what it would turn up.
Load More Replies...People used to be weary about posting so much personal information online. Today - everything is out there. City, state, school, sports, friends, vacations, when they are home alone, what makes them sad or happy. They are handing all the information to strangers. Sure, yeah, you are only friends with people you know, NO YOU ARE NOT. Bad people know how to find out the information you are sharing so freely. Accepting requests from strangers just because you have *mutuals* is NUTS. No one under 18 should be on the social media.
There are so many families on YouTube who post everything about their kids. Even what city they live in and the places they take them. It seems SO unsafe to me. But they're making money that way, so I guess they think it's worth it? Can you imagine some stranger coming up to you and greeting your kids by name? Or asking them about something they did because you watch them every day on the internet? I bet a lot of these YouTube kids are going to grow up to hate their parents!
Posting your entire life online is indeed stupid. We don't all need to know everything that is going on in a stranger's life. What I don't understand is how the whole thing works. How do you get so many followers? How do so many people find your videos online?
My bio on Bp is literally “dude. I don’t want your opinion on politics”
Wearing pajamas and slippers to go shopping. People, if you can't be bothered to put on fresh clothes, don't go out in public. Also, do they then wear those pajamas to bed? Ew!
Who cares? It's not affecting your life beyond the fact that you're choosing to pay attention to it.
Actually it makes you seem both trashy and lazy at the same time, and it also shows the people that say oh well, you want to sleep go home, and sure you have more shoes than a pair of slippers
Load More Replies...Aha. See, there is a real division here; and most of you are not seeing it. That's - normal, and the problem. These are supposed to be comments from elders- but the responses are to justify current behavior. What the elders did not clarify- since it was obvious to them - is that wearing sleepwear in public - was an egregious transgression in earlier times. Likely to get you picked up by the cops- and simply beyond the pale. Now- that HAS changed- but for them, their gut still reacts the same way. Horror!! Horror!!!! Not kidding. HORROR!!
so I'ma shed some light on this as a younger person who does this. I barely have enough motivation to get out of bed in the morning, let alone get dressed and actually go shopping for the food I need. If you care so much that's your problem tbh mind your business you have no idea what I'm struggling with every day.
LOL sounds like "people of Walmart". I don't mind the PJs much, it's the ones in the ripped/torn/obviously dirty clothes that annoy me (not that they just got off work, but that they wear this stuff all the time!) My folks would have NEVER let me out of the house without changing
Mind your own. Sometimes, getting up at all is hard enough for several days, yet done every day. I need some stuff, I'm not going to a fashion show or such, and if I'm ugly, look elsewhere, tell someone else, I don't care. What ever became of leaving people alone?
No. In public - you do not always get to do just anything. You have to mind everyones- not just your own. So elders believe.
Load More Replies...I find it absolutely ridiculous that convention should be more important than being comfortable. There is no inherent worth in certain clothes over others, all clothing conventions are just made up stuff, that humans decided, so why shouldn't we decide we can wear things that make us feel comfortable? We could decide that comfortable clothes are now the new chic clothes and then everyone can follow the clothing rules and still be comfortable. Why are we not doing that?
Lol. I like being as comfortable as possible, so I'll wear whatever the fvck I want. Also, no, I don't wear those same pajamas to bed, I have separate pajamas for everything.
Food for thought - I too dislike the "Walmart shopper" look. But instead of just hating - consider there might be reasons for it. I have known people who wore slippers shopping because their feet were too swollen to wear their regular shoes. I have known people who wore pajamas or other "sloppy" pants (yoga, sweats) because either due to temporary bloating or morbid obesity they didn't have anything in their size. Not every person who doesn't dress to your standards is lazy trailer park trash. Though I admit it seems like some are.
Look. I'm overweight because of my depression medication. I hate my body so I wear big shirts and pajama pants when I go to the store. Ok? Is that a good enough explanation? Leave me and anyone like me alone.
Emotional support dogs/pets pretending to be service dogs Dragging your dog every f-ing where. I love dogs,I foster dogs,I train dogs,I have 4 huge dogs....that don't go shopping/to festivals/everywhere with me. Also letting your dog with c**p recall off leash and thinking that screaming he's friendly makes it better. And not picking up your dogs s**t on hiking trails,that's just rude and ignorant. And petting strangers dogs,um no keep your hands to yourself please Those disgusting long nails some women sport like little wearable petri dishes. Talking about politics,money or religion in every social setting. It was so much nicer when people realized that not every gathering needed to be bombarded with contentious subjects.
I agree with most of this, if not all. It's just a little hard to decode without the use of punctuation.
I would rather people leave their dog poo than put it in a plastic bag and then THROW IT IN THE BUSHES. If you aren't going to take it with you to throw away don't bother--the poo will break down much faster than the plastic bag.
where is the censoring words like s**t and c**p comment?! Do we really think that making these words "unreadable" helps society in any shape or form?
well, but notice it doesn't really make them unreadable. We can fill in the blanks just fine.
Load More Replies...I am afraid of dogs after getting attacked and bitten. I don't like strange dogs. I won't pet them at all. Right before I got bitten they said dog is friendly. Nope! Leave your dog at home. I saw some older women with a daschund in a shopping cart that had just barfed in it. They just got another cart and left the dirty one there. Rude and disgusting. Walmart of course.
When I was a kid, everyone was taught to ask permission before petting someone's dog. I've been told "no" before because it was a service dog in training, and getting its attention would make it lose its focus on its job. Asking is very important as well as simple common courtesy.
Another victim of the failure to teach grammar and punctuation in elementary school these days.
I used to get to deal with the off leash, yelling "Don't worry, he's friendly!" Meanwhile, I would be holding my 16 lb Tibetan Spaniel in the air by his harness, him doing his best to get loose and attack that Great Dane/Pitbull/Shepard, snarling and growling. I'm busy yelling "Well, he's NOT friendly!" If your loose dog gets in a fight with my aggressive, legally leashed, dog, you are going to pay any and all bills, including any I incur stopping it!
The thought of if you can't accept me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best.
I'm pretty sure people who say this also think the customer is always right.
Load More Replies...Someone's worst often tells me that their best isn't worth waiting around for.
It works on some narrow situations. Like mental disorders. If you don't want anything to do with me while I'm having a bout of depression, you truly don't deserve me when I'm (relatively) fine either.
Why is it bad? I'm not perfect but if you're not there for the bad why am I going to reward you with the good?
To be honest, I always liked this one. I saw it as saying that if you couldn't deal with the days I was sick, depressed, needed support, or looked like c**p, then you didn't deserve the me that put on makeup for a date with you, supported you, or cared about you.
That is a very good point, but that statement is all too often used to justify bad behavior.
Load More Replies...S**t if you get offended at what I do say you can’t handle what I could say
I never thought about it coming from an abusive person till this post. I always took it as, if you can't handle problems and things not working out then its not worth it to keep you around for when things are going great in life.
That the following are OK with a large swath of the population: Shoplifting Fighting Shooting each other Yelling Using outdoor voices indoors and drawing everyone's attention to you Lack of customer service.
I am thankful this list is one shorter here in Australia - "shooting each other".
According to Homicides in Australia murders in Australia are likely to be committed with knives (37%) or by beating (27%).
Load More Replies...Pretty sure that a huge swath of the population is NOT ok with any of those things. You just hear about them more because news travels fast nowadays. That does not mean any generation is ok with shooting each other. Especially students that deal with school shooters
I believe most of this is not new. We now have such an overwhelming access to every small news story from all points of the compass that we feel these occurrences are becoming the norm. Back when our news came from a half-hour program on TV and a daily paper most of these stories would never have been published.
I'm ok with the last one. After seeing and hearing how people treat those in the service industries, I feel like they deserve a bit of a break from the sterling work that they do. I'm here to back up anyone in the retail or food industry when they get mouthy to a customer; You know they deserve it!
Shoplifting wouldn't be a problem if we got rid of poverty. Fighting is usually also a result of poverty. So are shootings. But also, we need common sense gun laws. But everyone is more worried about their damn guns. Yelling...it depends. But most of the time yelling is not necessary. I don't even know what tone of voice I'm using. So if I'm talking loudly, it's likely that I don't realize it. Lack of customer service? Lmao. No. Customers are just s****y. Stop being a s****y customer, and you'll get great customer service.
Yes and no. Are they referring to shoplifting for essentials (like food or medicine) or for wants (like xbox games and booze)? There are also people who will shoplift just because they can, or they get a rush. I have sympathy for someone who needs to steal food to live, but not the other type.
Load More Replies...in today's economy, if you see somebody 'stealing' food, drinks, or any baby necessities (among other things), no the f**k you didn't
Nobody is okay with anything on that list. Every item on that list is beyond most people's ability to do anything about. Avoiding confrontation is not the same as approval or acceptance.
Vaping in public really bothers me. I hated it when restaurants and bars were filled with cigarette smoke before 1990 (or whenever that changed). Now, I hate seeing people vaping everywhere I go. I see it at concerts, in bars, restaurants, grocery stores, the gas station -- everywhere.
Where the vaping happens is incidental. The fact that vaping is being targeted to teens, and poses serious health risks is far more important.
I'd like to commend J rod for apologising for his comment, and don't understand why his apology has been down voted?
Load More Replies...I lived in tobacco-growing country (Virginia) in the 1980's and 90's. There were ashtrays IN GROCERY STORE AISLES until 1995. I was a smoker at the time, and it was disgusting to me!!
teenagers vaping in schools is the worst thing. and then they get mad when they get punished, like??? wtf did you expect, you're lucky it was just a week of BMR, I'd have punched you myself if I was a teacher
Where do you live that you see vaping wherever you go? I've never seen anyone vaping even once in my whole life.
What's the objection to vaping? Unless someone's blowing it in your face, which is obnoxious even without a vape, there's no toxic chemicals, & of course there's no stinky tobacco smell. This just seems like lemon-sucking puritanism. As for danger, well I'm an adult & other people go in for extreme sports & sky-diving, go pick on them.
The fake fruit smells affect some people. Thankfully my family is reasonable about not doing it around me.
Load More Replies...Why? I get the smoking thing. Vape tho? Those are (mostly) people who quit smoking. Oh noe it smelled like raspberries for 15 seconds and then the vapor disappeared. Why do you hate this so much? It's not second hand smoke. Unless you're trapped in an unventilated small room...it literally can't even reach you. Let alone harm you?
You've never had someone blow it in your face, apparently.
Load More Replies...Oh, ick. I don't actually know the laws for vaping in my country (UK) but I would never vape in an enclosed space regardless. And when I have people over (in my home) I always ask if they mind the smell (and there are some people who do mind it around whom I don't vape at all). Basic consideration!
Nope. One is combustion, as in on fire, and the other is a vapor. One has the byproducts of combustion (particulate matter, toxic gasses, etc.) and the other does not.
Load More Replies...Basic manners. My gran must be affecting about 500 rpm in her grave, right about now.
My kid's friends were not taught basic manners by their parents. They do not say "hello" to me or my wife when they come over and they do not say "thank you" when we feed them or "goodbye" when they leave, and that's why they're not invited over any more.
Interrupting someone while they’re talking. Maybe it’s just me bc it’s a huge pet peeve but I feel like I’m constantly being interrupted or people are always talking over one another. When I politely say, “excuse me, I was in the middle of talking” or “hold on a sec please so I can finish what I was saying” I get looked at like I have 3 heads or like I’m totally out of line when I say something about it. Again maybe it’s just me, but imo interrupting people mid sentence and talking over others is now for some reason socially acceptable - by both adults and kids no matter the setting - and I don’t get it. Now I feel like the abnormal one for thinking that’s it’s rude or for feeling slightly offended when someone does it to me. Tbh I literally physically cringe when I’m there and witness it happening to someone else while they’re talking lol. It’s wild to me.
By the length of this post, I can tell YOU are the talker, and people only interrupt because you won't stop talking. I have a friend like this. The only way we have a conversation instead of her just talking at me the whole time, I HAVE to interrupt.
LOL - it's two paragraphs. I timed myself reading it out loud. 42 seconds. Perhaps you have a short attention span? I have been around people who will talk for 15 or 30 minutes seemingly without taking a breath. This is not that.
Load More Replies...Same. With some people I've stopped trying to finish what I was saying. They obviously weren't interested.
Load More Replies...I struggle. My speaks slowly (he's had two strokes) and I try to wait until I think he's done talking and he rarely is. I've waited for 15-20 seconds. That's not enough. I've waited while he cuts food, eats, chew, drink and poke the vegetables off his plate. That's not enough time, he was just about to speak and I interrupted him. No matter what I do I'm always accused of interrupting him.
If you waited 15-20 seconds then you're not interrupting him. Having a stroke doesn't give him the right to be an A-hole towards you.
Load More Replies...I've just employed someone who does this, he was the most qualified for the job but kept talking over me in the interview. I tried to nix it but my boss employed him. He's an absolute pain in the backside.
Any of you youngsters LISTENING HERE??? Listen. This IS something young people DO to older people. Older people live in a different time zone. If you can't learn that - then we quit talking to you. It's really a huge loss. anybody out there.........??
No loss to me. I don't need to be taken hostage for 45 minutes to hear christian-nationlist rants every time I try to walk my dogs. Try listening more than you talk and maybe someone will want to listen to you.
Load More Replies...It's dehumanizing. It's treating you like you're invisible. Rude to the max!
The inconsideration of people like this makes it easy to know who to avoid.
Bonus points for the ones who interrupt you to finish your sentence for you but they are wrong - and then when you try again they do it AGAIN with a different but still wrong guess. I had one person do it three (or was it four?) times in a row before I finally said will you please stop talking and let me finish my sentence. They were a habitual offender so sometimes I just walked away.
I just continue talking until I finish what I wanted to say and don't pay attention if someone is trying to interrupt. It usually confuses the interrupter and makes them shut up.
It's because many have the bad habit of listening instead of hearing. And I mean 'listening' in this way: You say something that sparks an idea/answer/strong emotion in the other person and they instantly stop listening and butt in with their idea/answer/emotion. If folks learned to HEAR instead, they'd give full attention until the other is done speaking, take a few moments to mull it over in their heads, ask clarifying questions if needed, and THEN reply. It would absolutely help couples/friends/fam members who are having arguments/fights as well. "you never listen to me" = 100% of the time they're being interrupted and can't finish their thoughts and just give up, or the fight/argument gets louder & more disheveled. EVERYONE wants to be heard & understood. Maybe you agree, maybe you don't, but they have the same right to be 100% thoroughly heard as much as you (general "you") do. Hearing the other person also shows them what they're saying is important - as it's important to THEM.
Sharing every aspect of yours and also your children's lives on social media.
I hate when my parents share photos of me online. I can’t imagine how someone feels when their parents post 20 times that.
"My child has just said 'Eooo!' My child has just picked his nose! My child has just been given a misogynistic shirt! My child has just---" Okay, Jenna, WE GET IT! Your child is a precious little ray of sunshine! Now please explain how this is relevant, in any way, to my life, seeing as I have never met you OR the child. Jesus!
why is taking photos of your children normalised anyway? like, I literally live with you you can look at me whenever you want
Yaknow...... I wish people still dressed up *a little* more. I dine at some seriously nice restaurants and it's while overall I guess it's OK if someone decides to dine there in a t-shirt, cargo shorts and flip flops but I gotta say it sorta reduces my own experience, especially if we're celebrating a special occasion.
OK, I'll stop being grumpy now.
This is one I really don’t care about. You do you. As long as everyone is well behaved, my experience is unaffected.
As long as the clothes are clean and they don't smell.
Load More Replies...I wish it was commonly accepted to wear Ball gowns in more situations than, say, a ball
Just do it! Rock your ball gown to the supermarket and the joy you would spread will definitely outweigh the frowns. Just hold your head high!
Load More Replies...I agree. Looking back at historical photos, everyone looks so "done" in public. What happened that we are now walking around in PJs? On the upside, it doesn't take much effort to stand out. I've gotten cute accessories and a few "statement" pieces (got 3 compliments when I wore my silver pants this week) that make me look like a million bucks in comparison. Plus, it is fun and knowing I look good greatly improves my mood and day!
I wonder if this one doesn't come with the fact that "going out to dinner" isn't the big deal it used to be? I mean, I'm Gen X and maybe it was just my family (who were lower-middle class), going out to eat at an actual restaurant was a big deal because of the expense. Nowadays some people never cook at home, they love on take outs.
Yep, going to a nice event like a ballet and seeing people in sweatpants and house shoes
As long as they go and enjoy the cultural experience, who cares?
Load More Replies...I am a boomer and agree with the OP. I believe you should dress accordingly to the type of restaurant you are visiting.
The same I feel in Opera, where namely young, probably tourists, are dressed inappropriately. You can tell me - they are on holiday, but the same happnsd in churches, etc. When I know I will to go to Opera, Grandball, church, i must take with more than only expectations.
J rod has been a mixed bag today, but I totally agree with his comment here. Why are you letting other people's freedom to be comfortable the way they dress to ruin your night?
I don't care what people wear in a restaurant. What bothers me more is when they don't teach their children how to behave in public and let them turn the restaurant upside down, thinking it's cute.
Texting instead of sitting down and having an actual conversation especially about difficult topics.
On the flip side I have one child who struggles A LOT with expressing herself and talking about difficult or emotional subjects. Especially in person. So we text. It has probably saved her life.
I appreciate that your child has a different way of being in this world. But that's not what this is talking about. The point, I think, is the rudeness of ignoring others around you. Keeping your nose in your phone while with others is dehumanizing to others.
Load More Replies...Disagree hard. Texting - not unlike, say, writing a letter - can allow you to get your thoughts out all at once, in a somewhat organized fashion, without being interrupted or swayed by another person's emotional reactions.
Sometimes people be lying about who said what and when. Texts can fix that.
The youngs can not to speak each other, they are not used to. I hear unwilllingly a (rare) conversation of a girl and boy. She speaks fluently, but so intim things about other girls, some girlish gossip, and he looks admiringly at her, probably not hearing a word. They can not only pretend interes in each othe´ rs things, absolutely can have small talk or have a flirtatious conversation. Sad.
Socially anxious introvert here. Will choose texting over actual convo every time.
Constantly doing stuff on your phone. The gym had to put up little signs on all the weight machines asking people to give others a turn instead of just sitting there on their phones – and the place is still full of people sitting on the machines glued to their phones. The effect when you walk into a room like that is eerie. I’m much more of a phone addict than I’d like to be, but I’m trying to be more mindful and not just automatically reach for it every time there’s a lull, whether between sets or waiting for an elevator or whatever. Practicing my lost art of just looking around and thinking my thoughts and tolerating boredom.
The second paragraph of the OP describes more of a problem than people think. People have zero tolerance to boredom anymore. Remember when you would go to a doctor's appt and the only magazine available was a 2 year old national geographic or maybe a Home and Garden? What did you do? You waited, and people watched, and your mind would wander, and sometimes you might have started up a conversation with another person, and possibly while you were doing all that thinking you solved a problem or really thought a problem through. That never happens anymore, and people can't tolerate a 2 minute wait anymore.
I used to deliberately leave my phone in the car when I went to the gym. I was always concerned I'd drop a weight on it or accidentally step on it.
"But I'm resting between sets", comes the reply. What, for the past 10 minutes!
In my phone a lot to, but I’m decent enough to put it away when I should
Maybe the gym need to ban all phones brieing on the floor while the customers are on the floor.
I use my phone to log my exercise, and I also sometimes need to watch for texts. Also, most people take 1-3 minutes or longer of rest between sets, so it's not like they have much else to do between sets
Load More Replies...Are they wasting time watching tik tok videos or are the entering info into the gym app on their phone in between sets?
No this is full on scrolling through stuff like thiktok. Sometimes sitting on a bench for 10-15 minutes and will say they are "resting between sets". Get over!
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Mine is that nobody is taught cursive anymore, and they surely can't read it! My fdil's little brother (19) couldn't sign his name for his driver's license and had to ask her to do it for him.
I was taught cursive but could never write it clearly. Gave it up in high school after a teacher insisted students write cursive, then gave me a 0 because she couldn’t read my handwriting. She called me an illiterate slob, so I later sent her a copy of my first novel signed (and printed) as such. Never received a thank you note. How rude…
Bad handwriting doesn't = illiteracy or slobbishness. I have a hard time reading my own handwriting sometimes but have higher than average reading comprehension skills and even tho pretty messy, not a slob. Your teacher was just a shrew and exceptionally rude.
Load More Replies...As a boomer, this is how we are going to communicate when we retake over the world. No one will know our evil genius plan. Bwahahaha
As a Gen X, I agree. Also maps... actual 'fold back up and put in the glovebox' maps
Load More Replies...My kids are currently learning cursive in school, so...
yeah they teach it where i live too (btw i love your handle!! 🗳️)
Load More Replies...Outside of using it to create a signature, does cursive have any real use anymore?
why yes; communication with 60% of our species.... oh, and also- the ability to directly read the writings of all humanity - before 1990... there were several years there.
Load More Replies...Cursive is absolutely STILL taught in my country, and most other European countries as well.
They are stopping it in schools in Austria. I think, that's a bad idea.
Load More Replies...But it's a completely unnecessary skill. And it only looks nice when it's done by someone artistic.
As a calligrapher who was taught cursive in school, I think now you should just consider it an artistic instead of communicative ductus. It's fine for motor skills, expression and such. The goal of communication is to have the recipient understand the message, if they can't read cursive why would you communicate in it? I know some crazy fonts that I can read and create, but others will have difficulty. They can see it's pretty (artistic) and appreciate that, but takes a while to work out what it says (communicative). There's a reason there's even a "font" for Draftsmen on technical drawings. Everyone can understand it readily.
I do not understand the obsession with cursive. I learned it, and I literally never use it except to sign my name. It's a completely unnecessary skill but people act like we're failing as a society because not everyone knows cursive these days.
I was taught cursive and my handwriting is appalling so I try not to use it.
Refusing to go one teenie tiny step outside your job description. If we all want to have a smooth work process sometimes you need to reach out to the other people involved in the process and work together to make things efficent. Also, its no ones JOB to order more vacuum bags or sponges at work. If you see something that needs addressed for the good of the office, just f*****g do it. This is a HUGE pet peeve of mine.. lol.
You give an inch the company will take a mile and EXPECT it. Do NOT take on tasks that are outside your job or it will become your job. Tell your boss that there are no more vacuum bags or the coffee machine is broken. Send it UP the chain, not down.
You are quite right. It's not even a company thing: most people are happy to leave the nitty gritty to someone else and especially this kind of household-like chores to women.
Load More Replies...If "it's no ones JOB to order more vacuum bags or sponges at work", then that's a failure in management, isn't it?
I guarantee you that "ordering more vacuum bags" *is* part of someone's job description - unless you work in a little mom n' pop store.
Indeed. If it's not officially it's always unofficially allocated to someone. Seems to make more sense that if you see the vacuum bags are out then you should talk to the appropriate person and let them order more. If everyone took it upon themselves suddenly 10 people have ordered vacuum bags...
Load More Replies...Of course it’s someone’s job to take inventory of supplies and order more if necessary.
And if it isn’t in anyone’s job description, that’s a management failure.
Load More Replies...Counterpoint: Too many companies these days are normalizing line workers doing the janitorial and maintenance tasks, to save money on another employee. Don't "just f***ing do it" because it's both an OHSA issue, and a way the company profits at your expense.
This one is a grey area. Yes, help out. But not so regularly that it becomes expected and part of your job. You want someone to do more work, you pay them more! Also it ABSOLUTLY IS someone's job to order the vacuum bags and sponges. Usually this falls down to the cleaners/janitors, but not always. Eg. My head nurse is responsible for making sure our cleaners have everything they need, as well as ordering toilet paper, soaps, and the like. I'm responsible for making sure it's done and that she has the time to check stock levels and place the orders
In my warehouse there was a time where TP was scarce. It was said the Head of security was responsible for ordering it, but she was out for a couple of days. The only thing I could think of was: Why the everloving F*ck is it the Head of Security's responsibility to Order the Tp for the warehouse?
Ghosting people, both professionally and personally. This is only appropriate if you’re in a dangerous situation where your safety is at risk, otherwise it’s a cowardly and inconsiderate way to handle a situation. If you need to break away from any kind of relationship or commitment for any reason other than imminent danger, you need to tell the person(s) so they don’t waste time waiting on you or wondering what happened to you. It’s common courtesy, and ghosting shows a huge lack of consideration for everyone involved.
I hate it too. Just say "Sorry, I don't feel we are a good match (anymore)" or "Sorry, I already don't have time to see all of my current friends, not looking for new friends" or "Sorry, we are very different and I don't really see us becoming partners/friends". Ghosting nowadays is so ridiculously common, that everytime a friend or new acquaintance or date doesn't respond (or if they respond to you but don't initiate new conversations with you at the moment) you have to wonder whether they are just going through a busy/difficult week or whether they are trying to get rid of you because they don't like you. That is very hurtful and makes friendships unnecessarily difficult. As a society we shouldn't be creating this problem.
Intentionally lying, then doubling down on it.
That elders deserve zero respect unless earned.
For some reason it is demanded that elders respect the every wish and desire of younger generations (pronoun choices for example), but I read constantly that elders deserve zero respect unless they earn it, and often distain unless they can prove their innocence. It’s a complete double standard. Even in many “ask” subreddits I will get aggressive and any responses like, “we’ve heard enough from your generation” usually calling be a ‘boomer’ even though I’m not. But there’s such hatred for older people that ‘boomer’ has become a standard put down for anyone over 40.
Where exactly do you read this constantly? Nobody "deserves" respect; everybody should start out automatically respectful to everybody else, regardless.
My philosophy has been - respect a person until they show me a reason not to.
Load More Replies...This needs to be higher. It used to be everyone deserved some sort of respect unless they proved otherwise, but now everyone has to earn it? What happened to common courtesy? Asking for respect but not giving it seems like a really good way to not get respected.
Common curtesy doesn't necessarily involves respect for others. It should be part of a person's self-respect.
Load More Replies...Also, I think the online rabbit holes do not reflect real life.
I've only ever heard and observed the opposite, elders demanding respect from the outset but refusing to show it until earned by younger people.
I think respect should be mutual. I'm all about giving people the benefit of the doubt, but if you're rude/hateful/disrespectful to me, don't expect anything less in return....
I think the issue comes from a fundamental difference in what people think "respect" means. I'm not going to respect someone JUST because they're older, but I will respect everyone when it comes to basic levels of human decency, like using their correct pronouns. There's a meme somewhere that sums it up perfectly - that some people think respect means treating them like an authority figure. In my personal experience, that does seem to be how a lot of older people view it (and I'm in my 40s, for reference). It's basically, "I'm older, and for that reason alone, you should listen to me, even if I'm a terrible human being."
"Remember that it hurts no one to be treated as an enemy entitled to respect until he shall prove himself a friend worthy of affection." - Ambrose Bierce
Going no contact with anyone who moderately does anything you don't like.
This far down the list, my annoyance for "J rod" has turned to pity, and I truly feel bad for him/her. Your anger and bitterness is obvious, and I hope you learn to chill a bit ... it's no good for your long term mental and physical health. Yes, there are many injustices in the world that deserve shaking your fist at, but you can't fight, nor win, every battle. I hope you have friends, and I sincerely wish you peace!
J rod is just doing this for fun. He loves the downvotes so we might as well let him be happy.
Load More Replies..."Moderately"? I was accused of "overreacting" for cutting someone for a "minor thing". He socialized with drvg dealers, two of them murdered someone over a deal. But I "overreacted" because I wanted nothing to do with him? Like hell.
That is different. You cut contact for your sanity and safety. I think OP is talking about ones who stop talking to someone simply because they disagree on something.
Load More Replies...I used to genuinely enjoy jumping on askreddit or AMITA and having interesting or fun conversations. Now, it's like 100% of the time people are jumping immediately to "go no contact" and I got dragged in the comments for suggesting the situation was fixable. Like... sometimes no contact is entirely justified, but they recommend it for EVERYTHING now. It's wild.
This is a sad result of current social and mainstream media. The message being sent is to ostracize anyone who disagrees. This herd mentality is killing growth and joy in the world by stifling debate and isolating people into groups. Said groups are much easier to manipulate and control by those in power coincidentally.
I think that if somebody wants to go no contact with an individual they dislike, they should be allowed to. it often makes people significantly happier, and it doesn't need to be for reasons of safety. if I could cut off everybody I disliked my mental health would be far better
Once it gets enough downvotes any comment will be hidden - not just theirs.
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I you work in customer service I expect you to acknowledge my existence and be polite. I don't care how oppressed you feel because you're "only" making $15/hour. I did the same job for $3.35/hour and managed to be professional. (And before you go off on my about the cost of living, my rent was $350/month at that time, meaning I had to work 105 hours to cover it. Sorry, Zoomers, but your generation isnt the first to experience poverty.).
Agree about the basic politeness and service - so many people are expecting tips as a basic right, not as a result of superior service. Point here is NOT about accepting BS or rude behavior from customers, but projecting professionalism and competence - which may be a whole different issue...
Twice in the last month at 2 different restaurants I have been seated by a young women who did not look at me and mumbled something and then ran. It was sad and bizarre. How did they get this job? Why are they unable to give a polite greeting and look at me directly? I am an old boomer but I can't help thinking this is a requirement for working with the public.
I have the five minute rule. If they're snappish in the first five minutes I assume they're just having a bad day and let it slide. I will be polite and pleasant and if that's the case they usually sweeten up. but if they continue to be rude (or are rude on multiple occasions) I will just assume that's how they are and limit my interactions whenever possible.
Erectile dysfunction ads everywhere.
If carrying an unwanted pregnancy to term is God's will, then erectile dysfunction is also God's will.
Ah, but it's different when it's a cisgender heterosexual male.
Load More Replies...Posting yourself naked online.
Wearing headphones everywhere you go.
Some folks have social anxiety or sensory issues and this is how they cope. I don't know about you, but a nice soothing soundtrack of my favorite tunes beats the stress of dealing with the crowds in Wallyworld or the mall at Christmas time (I do remove the earbuds if I need to interact with, say, a cashier.)
Nope, headphones stay on. Specially on the bus when the alternative is listening to other peoples talking, screaming kids, loose panels that clacker around and so on.
"I don't want to hear your music! Stop wearing headphones! Talk about the weather with meeeee!"
*proceeds to play my incredibly obnoxious playlist as loud as possible everywhere I go in public and sings along* HOW'S THAT FOR YOU?!
I read a book last week about climate change migration, one section of which dealt with seasonal flooding in a Virginia neighborhood. people would buy a house in the neighborhood not knowing it was flood-prone. then they'd get flooded and either rebuild and sell or rebuild and stay. those who wanted to sell were apparently not required to tell prospective buyers that the house was in a flood area (but not officially on a flood map). so the seller has a dilemma: keep quiet and sell the house for as much as possible, or tell and watch the offers and price dry up. the author described the situation as the seller holding a lit stick of dynamite: seller has to time it just right so that he/she hands off the dynamite to a buyer before kaboom (another flood), or get kaboomied him/herself. as i'm reading, i'm thinking: is this who we are now as Americans? we'll just hand off the dynamite to the next guy and feel glad we escaped? we won't even warn others that this is, ya know, dynamite? do we bear no responsibility to others? i get that it's a terribly difficult decision for those who got, all unknowingly, handed the dynamite themselves. the consequences of fessing up are pretty appalling and financially ruinous. i'm certainly glad i'm not one of those homeowners. so that's what is apparently socially normal now that i disagree with. you can hand a stick of dynamite to someone else knowing that it's dynamite, but convincing them its a bunch of roses.
In England and Wales (Scottish and Northern Irish law may be different), you have to declare if your home has even been flooded when selling. Doesn’t stop developers building on flood plains though!
When the "Love Canal" toxic waste incident happened in the 1970s, Jimmy Carter's administration bought the land and houses from the people living there. The same SHOULD happen now with unlivable land, but governments these days lack the same decency. [ https://www.epa.gov/archive/epa/aboutepa/love-canal-tragedy.html ]
I agree with you. The US government SHOULD take more responsibility in closing land off from development that is prone to natural forces (floods, fires, avalanches, etc., etc. But you have wealthy developers donating freely the the lawmakers who should make these responsible decisions. It's that shrieking $ again.
Load More Replies...This is great advice, but doesn't work in every situation. My friends bought a house that had a stream going under their house. That would not show up on topographical maps.
Load More Replies...I feel like we've been this way for a very, very, very long time, according to history...
I believe this is illegal in real estate these days. You have to disclose EVERY material problem while you lived there. You can't "forget" to mention a flood.
As I'm reading I'm wondering why someone with otherwise good grammar doesn't capitalize the letter of their sentence.
In the US, money talks...it yells, it screams. So much so that it outweighs any sense of responsibility; if someone can still make a buck on it, SELL it - especially to someone who is less wealthy. That $ is the ONLY thing that matters. If you can make a buck by lying to someone about flood plains, etc., lie your brains out. A responsible and compassionate country requires that people be honest about what has, in the past, happened to a house. But even reponsible countries in this way are still victims of developers with money.
Going up to veterans to thank them for their service. It's not wrong, but my dad got very tired of it. He had to quit wearing his cap with his destroyer number on it.
He had to quit what? FFS. Going around making your previous service define your present identity, and then complaining about it? Something very wrong here.
Wearing a hat from your old command does not equal "making your previous service define your present identity"
Load More Replies...Why was your dad wearing his garb around? He was inviting people to say something and then he was upset that they noticed?
I don't thank veterans for their service because im embarrassed that we don'tdo more to end their suffering. . If America was really thankful then we would be able to help curb veteran homelessness and provide better care for their longterm needs that came while they served.
Growing up in a military family and marrying into the military, I can tell you with 100% confidence that not every single person who served deserves any thanks. There is a LOT about the military that is hugely dysfunctional. And those who actually did things deserving of respect, very likely aren't getting the support and services they need from the very institution that damaged them.
I see it as a rebound from how poorly many people in the US treated veterans returning from Vietnam. If I see an octogenarian wearing an insignia cap, I'll still thank them for their service, and if we're in line or otherwise idle I love using it as a conversation starter about their experiences.
A lot of the older folks who served don't like being fussed over, they "did what they had to do". Unless I know the person personally, I just give them a nod in passing. If they respond in a positive way, THEN I mention my thanks.
The only people that deserved to be "thanked for their service" are firefighters and medical workers.
Growing up I never saw WWII or WWI vets (yes, I’m that old) wearing their garrison caps except at veterans’ events. It’s the Vietnam and after vets who do this. The older generation just saw it as a dirty job that had to be done so they could get on with their lives. (Here’s where I get offensive): some Vietnam vets seem to have memories of being spit on (without any proof despite being researched), and feel they’re owed something
My son is in the Army and told me he doesn't know how to feel about this one. I guess it's because that was a career choice he's made but his duties keep him far from any active combat zones (for which I am extremely grateful) and he doesn't feel like he's done anything particularly special by enlisting. He's like, "What do I say? You're welcome?" It can be a little awkward.
Something smartash might work? "I just drive a desk, ma'am - but I keep it fully loaded!"
Load More Replies...Not being able to work your way up at a company. Corporations going right to layoffs as a form of saving money, instead of a last ditch effort to stay in business. Companies being bought out and half the staff being let go, while those who remain take on more responsibility without a chance to negotiate higher pay.
Companies laying off people, cutting their pensions then giving their CEO huge bonuses and golden parachutes.
Companies crying poor and telling employees there’s just no money in the payroll account for raises AGAIN this year, much less bonuses, the Christmas Party, etc. Anything that would reward employees or just give them something to look forward to. THEN going on MSM and loudly boasting about the heinous amount they’ve made in profits this year AND handing out insane bonuses to top executives. Funny how there was enough in THAT payroll account for raises and bonuses for themselves, but not for the people who actually had a hand in making them those profits.
Load More Replies...The idea that people aren't grown-ups until their mid 20s, because their brains aren't fully developed until then. Adulthood used to start at 18, then 21, then 22 after college, and now who knows when. You can enlist in the military at 17-18. I apprenticed at 17, married at 21, had two kids by 25. My career, marriage, and kids all turned out fine.
If only the Untied States of Oppresion realised that...
Load More Replies...This is stupid. There is nothing magical that happens when a person turns 18 - or 21 - that suddenly turns them into AN ADULT. It's impractical to assess every individual for "maturity". The age limits are just benchmarks.
just because you CAN enlist in the military at 17-18 doesn't mean you SHOULD. I know plenty of people older than that who I personally wouldn't trust behind a counter at Gregg's, let alone holding a gun
I agree. The USA takes away rights of people that deserve them, there is literally no reason that a 6-year old shouldn't be able to vote, no matter what any other d*ck says.
I mean, it's a literal fact that the frontal lobes don't fully develop until around age 25. Just because we consider certain ages to be "adult" according to the law doesn't change that. I got married at 17 and it was absolutely disastrous, which statistically is the most common outcome. You don't make your best decisions in your teens/20s. If I'd had kids in my 20s it would've been an absolute sh*t show.
I notice there’s some younger people who just don’t say hi at work. You should say hello to everyone you work with.
Expecting to greet everyone is too much. But at least greet everyone you happen to meet/pass by when coming to work.
I accept all general hellos. You don't need to greet everyone individually that could become chaotic. Anyone within arms reach can have a personal greeting.
The problem with this is that you end up saying hello to people who mistake this as an invitation to get into a long conversation with you. I got a lot to do! Not trying to be rude, just got to go, bro. So I don't always say hello. Perhaps a nod should do it though :) I also don't assume everyone wants to say hello to me--maybe they are busy or are having a rough day.
I don’t disagree with it exactly but using the word “f**k” and some other choice words has gotten to be used in every other sentence. It’s coarse and boring.
I don't agree with the concept of "bad" words in general. They're just words, and somehow we collectively decided these specific mouth sounds aren't good. It makes zero sense.
Thank you! Now that you've cleared that up, the world can relax!
Load More Replies...I disagree with the use of swear words totally. Here I see people pretending to support good manners and at the same time being in favour of swearing. Double standards.
It seems like a missed opportunity. If you have a large vocabulary you rarely need to curse. When things are earth-shattering, mind-numbing, utterly despicable then bust out your asterisk spelled words and really let everyone around you know how vehemently you feel about it.
One of my rather sheltered high school students was going over to Ireland for the summer and would be working in a pub. I warned her, "Be prepared for them dropping the f-bomb about every third word." When she returned in the fall, I asked her if I'd been right. "No sir," she replied. "It was every third syllable."
Mum says they are merely filler words for the lazy, like "like." "I was just, like, woah!" 😭
I save the F word for punctuation....not every other word, but extreme cases. That's how you know I'm REALLY p!ssed off :-D
Yes, there is a time and a place for the word f**k. If you use it all the time, people won't know when you are really upset! There are so many other words that can be used instead.
Load More Replies...Mainstreaming/inclusivity. Kindness and humanity have to be taken to illogical extremes so that there is no chance of offending anyone different.
But they aren't taken to extremes. This claim is very much like the false argument that "having equal rights means having more rights/privileges." No, dear, equal means equal... as in "the same amount."
I'm with you, but understand; oldsters. Growing up they knew there were people in wheelchairs - but you didn't expect to actually deal with one. It's a shock!! We'll all survive, though.
Load More Replies...Respecting someone's identity (race, gender, pronouns, romantic preference) isn't extreme
equality isn't a bad thing, it's not a bad word, it's not going to bring about the end of days, it's just making sure people aren't scared to go into public spaces, it's making sure people are respected
Political correctness has nothing to do with respect, and everything to do with narcissistic people throwing their weight around in order to gain political power.
Hey !! You forgot to mention the QR-code menu cards which are finding their way more and more often into (fastfood)restaurants. Give me one and i'm so fast out the door, you won't even know for sure I was there!
I love that I can look at the menu on my phone rather than a sticky old menu that hundreds of people before me have handled. I also am just fine with touch screen ordering, I can take my time to decide what I want rather than worry I'm wasting everyone's time being indecisive in a regular line.
Load More Replies...It’s not just Boomer perspective. I’m Gen X and agree with most of it. A lot of it is mostly about younger people having no self respect or respect for others. My three adult children were raised to have manners, show respect, consider others. I still have comments all the time from people about how well adjusted and polite they are, like it’s a rare thing these days.
Boomers whining about younger people are the worst sort of hypocrites, complaining about the very thing that boomers caused. You don't like young people's lack of scientific knowledge? Then WHY did you remove science education from schools and decide that beating curiosity out of kids was a "good thing"? You don't like young people's manners? Then WHY did boomers act so entitled and make the government act only in their own interests for 50 years? Nobody cares about you now because you NEVER cared about anyone but yourselves.
Most of the anti science spread online is by boomers as well.
Load More Replies...Most of this thread was just the end result of boomer behavior over the years. It's whining from people who f****d around and found out and don't like the consequences. Welcome to the world you helped make. The kids are all pissed because we get to spend the entire rest of our lives dealing with the consequences of older generations...
Who would've thought using and abusing whilst stripping your millenials kids of everything would back fire? "Respect is earned" - boomer saying. Ha.
Load More Replies...I was amazed at how many times I read one of these and it made me think of an orange man.
The orange clown has certainly encouraged people to be more open about how they are racist, homophobic, anti-immigration, misogynistic, blaming everyone else for their own shortcomings, and sadly the main stream media has helped him in this.
Load More Replies...I think that we as a society should absolutely respect and understand the perspective of older people. I also believe that about adults, children, and (as much as they are capable) animals. But respect and understanding isn't agreeing. If you believe respect equals agreement we have a problem.
Hey !! You forgot to mention the QR-code menu cards which are finding their way more and more often into (fastfood)restaurants. Give me one and i'm so fast out the door, you won't even know for sure I was there!
I love that I can look at the menu on my phone rather than a sticky old menu that hundreds of people before me have handled. I also am just fine with touch screen ordering, I can take my time to decide what I want rather than worry I'm wasting everyone's time being indecisive in a regular line.
Load More Replies...It’s not just Boomer perspective. I’m Gen X and agree with most of it. A lot of it is mostly about younger people having no self respect or respect for others. My three adult children were raised to have manners, show respect, consider others. I still have comments all the time from people about how well adjusted and polite they are, like it’s a rare thing these days.
Boomers whining about younger people are the worst sort of hypocrites, complaining about the very thing that boomers caused. You don't like young people's lack of scientific knowledge? Then WHY did you remove science education from schools and decide that beating curiosity out of kids was a "good thing"? You don't like young people's manners? Then WHY did boomers act so entitled and make the government act only in their own interests for 50 years? Nobody cares about you now because you NEVER cared about anyone but yourselves.
Most of the anti science spread online is by boomers as well.
Load More Replies...Most of this thread was just the end result of boomer behavior over the years. It's whining from people who f****d around and found out and don't like the consequences. Welcome to the world you helped make. The kids are all pissed because we get to spend the entire rest of our lives dealing with the consequences of older generations...
Who would've thought using and abusing whilst stripping your millenials kids of everything would back fire? "Respect is earned" - boomer saying. Ha.
Load More Replies...I was amazed at how many times I read one of these and it made me think of an orange man.
The orange clown has certainly encouraged people to be more open about how they are racist, homophobic, anti-immigration, misogynistic, blaming everyone else for their own shortcomings, and sadly the main stream media has helped him in this.
Load More Replies...I think that we as a society should absolutely respect and understand the perspective of older people. I also believe that about adults, children, and (as much as they are capable) animals. But respect and understanding isn't agreeing. If you believe respect equals agreement we have a problem.
