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Many cultures have proverbs about respecting your elders. In theory, they've lived for longer, so they automatically have more experience, and with experience comes knowledge, right? Maybe some people would like to argue that wisdom doesn't come from how old you are. Yet you can't deny that people who have more years under their belt might have a different perspective on current trends and events.

Well, one netizen had the idea to ask older adults which current social norms and things they find strange. The user u/-----Diana----- wrote: "What's socially normal now that you disagree with?" The people on r/AskOldPeople shared some things they're not entirely on board with. And their answers are actually insightful, not the old-man-yells-at-cloud kind.

To know more about the 'Grumpy Old People' myth and why older people tend to disagree with modern social norms, Bored Panda reached out to Dr. Julie Erickson, a clinical psychologist and author of The Aging Well Workbook for Anxiety and Depression.

We also managed to have a conversation with the Redditor who started the discussion, u/-----Diana-----. The user from Romania was kind enough to tell us why she was curious about what older adults think of today's social norms. Read both interviews below!

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Our society being ok with total ignorance of science and some are even praised for it.

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It's natural for people to have differing opinions. Sometimes, these opinions can differ because of age. And that's completely normal, too. Clinical psychologist and author of The Aging Well Workbook for Anxiety and Depression, Dr. Julie Erickson, says that different generations commonly have conflicting views over norms, values, and beliefs.

"Each generation has 'cohort beliefs,' which are beliefs held by people born at a similar time period," Dr. Erickson tells Bored Panda. "These beliefs are shaped by a variety of different social, political, cultural, environmental, technological, and economic factors of the time."

But to say that "all elderly people hate technology" would be too simplistic and untrue. And, honestly, pretty ageist. There's much more nuance to it than that. "It's important to recognize that there is tremendous individual variability in the extent to which older adults accept new social norms," Dr. Erickson observes. "Some older adults are quite capable of evolving their worldview. It's an ageist assumption that older adults are stuck in their ways or more resistant to change."

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays The widespread inability to spell words correctly or use them properly ( e.g. Their , There , They're ) and don't get me started on grammar.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was always the case, we just get exposed to it more because everyone has easy access to post all over the place. It's more the lazy ones like U and Ur that annoy me.

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The clinical psychologist says that some studies suggest the personality trait we call 'agreeableness' increases as people age. "That being said, as we get older, we tend to prefer what is familiar and personally meaningful," she also notes. "This can make some people less open to new experiences or worldviews."

When the world's changing so fast and in so many ways, it can become harder and harder to keep up with current trends. And that includes not only knowing who the most popular celebrities are or what the latest fashion trend is. It's more about things like what words or phrases might be inappropriate to use.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Kids (and some adults, but I mostly see kids) with tablets or phones at full volume out in public. I have no interest in hearing other people's games, videos, music or phone conversations.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see this far more with retirees than with younger folks. Phone on speaker, full volume, blabbing it up about nothing regardless of setting. I don’t need forty minutes of Sylvia’s infected toenails.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Me: Hey, how have you been?

Them: Haven't you seen my posts on [social media platform]?

Me: I'm trying to have a conversation with you, not subscribe to your newsletter.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not even explaining myself. If that's the response I turn and walk on.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Being mad at me because I don't automatically know your pronouns... Just tell me if I'm wrong in a nice way and I'll adapt.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People changing their naturally born pronouns and expecting the entire world to magically know something which took them years to find out for themselves and exploding on them is the biggest douche move. Congratulations! You know yourself more fully now, but it doesn't give you the right to be a rude a*****e about it when others don't know. They expect people to know in an instant what took them years, maybe even decades, to find out for themselves. You're an idiot who thinks you now have an excuse to be rude and the masses will back you up because you are "different". People aren't hating on you because your pronouns don't align with the "traditional" sense; they're hating on you because you are an obnoxious, entitled a*****e.

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Wren
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd only get upset if someone flat out refused to use correct pronouns after me telling them kindly what they are (and not like them forgetting, just refusing to acknowledge them and being homophobic about it). Otherwise, my pronouns are she/they but if you accidentally call me a he I do not care whatsoever. Online/in comments I might not even bother correcting it lol

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Randy Sanders
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really don't care what your pronouns are. I will, however, address you with respect.

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HolyDiver
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

nobody cares. Live your life but don't expect me to cater to your fantasies.

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censorshipsucks
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a distinctly western controversy. In africa we're still trying to get countries like uganda to not give death sentences. Fortunately SA (my country) has enough western elements to be less traditionalist about it. But we don't do the thing of putting pronouns after our names.

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MayaGeGe
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah my parents come from North Africa. I wouldn't imagine that topic arriving there either... I feel that many Westerners don't realise how far we've gone on tolerance, as the 'Bigot' / 'Racist' accusations are overly common in Western Europe....Which is the region which has the greatest number of homosexuals, women, or people of foreign descent as high ranking public officials, without the population making a big fuss about it.

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Albert De Peña
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You don't own grammar. Be mad all you want or just treat me the way you like to be treated.

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CrazyKnitter
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please!! Don't assume that I'm a d**k, correct me. I may forget also, I have a s****y memory, I am not trying to be rude, I genuinely don't remember. I know someone who's pronouns have changed, I rarely interact with them but I always forget when I'm referring to them, not because I don't care, I just genuinely forget about it in the moment.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Adding: I knew them for 20 years under one way, I try and get internally excited when I do remember, but it slips out more often than I'd ever like to admit.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If we just met for the first time and you inform me of your pronouns, it's easy for me. But if I've known you a couple of decades and you decide to change your pronouns, then bare with me. I have a friend who got married 5 years ago and I still forget to use her married name.

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Jaya
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really? I have the opposite, I find using people's names instead of pronouns so incredibly uncomfortable. "Mike told me he needs to go to the store because his phone is broken" is an easy sentence, but "Mike told me Mike needs to go to the store because Mike's phone is broken".... I just cannot get through a sentence like that, I find that so awkward to say.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is WAY too confusing to even address. Give me a f*****g break if I have never even met your a*s before. How the hell should I know what specific flavor you prefer.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. And don't get so offended right away. How do I know? I don't even care! I'm probably only going to see you once in my life, so why make such a big deal about it?

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those who care about their pronouns don't give a rat's patoot about being nice about it if you get it wrong.

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Casey Payne
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am in a rather queer centric environment and for the life of me this is a situation that has never come up. It's just courtesy. It's not that big of a deal and easy to navigate through social circles. This is such a non-issue that has been blown out of proportion to the point of hostility. People are writing op-eds against using preferred pronouns for newspapers. Declaring they will only use God given pronouns and telling everyone that THIS IS THE HILL TO DIE ON and stop... being polite? Wow. Okay. Minding your manners is now a minefield.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When someone reacts by being upset for being misgendered I get a glimpse into how their mind works. Oh, you are not able to separate someone's intent over your need to be seen. I just use they for everyone now. Is that safe? Or are people gonna have a problem with that, too?

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My name was way too popular when I was born. Out of 21 kids in 2nd grade, 11 boys and 2 girls had the same name. I grew up with people calling me the wrong thing because "it was confusing what I wanted to be called". I grew up with people making up nicknames because "I can't keep you all straight". I learned there are 3 types of people. Those who make an effort right off the bat to get it right by asking. Those who correct themselves once they know. If they do it again, its an honest mistake and they will fix it. The last type don't care and won't make an effort because it's all about them. Stop trying to fix the third type. Its about their ego, not about you and you can't fix a narcissist. You actually strengthen their ego by arguing because their brain just sees their opinion matters.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Especially if they haven't transitioned and it isn't immediately obvious. I'm perfectly happy to refer to you as "she/her" but if you have a five o'clock shadow and don't LOOK feminine, mistakes will be made by me. I'm fully okay with owning up to them as long as you're okay owning up that your pronouns are different--instead of getting mad at me. I'm not a mind reader.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! Mind you - I've danced around not calling a family member anything at all for the past 12 years and no one's caught on yet. As a Canadian I never thought I start using "y'all", but it is a fabulous word! :)

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They're your family member. Do you not want to call them by their preferred pronouns?

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one (I know, there's ALWAYS one) is getting annoyed if you don't know or forget. People are angry if you deliberately do it or deadname them deliberately. The above idea is pushed a lot be people who resent the very idea that someone can change their gender or even name..

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DB
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't have pronouns I have adverbs. Mine are "loudly" and "frantically". Please respect my choices.

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Captain McSmoot
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I also find it a bit ironic that the same people who expect their new pronouns to be used instantly by default are also the same people who refuse to call "Twitter" X when that's the platform's new, legal name...

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone asked me my preferred pronouns the other day. I kinda wanted to say goddess/diva but didn't want to be perceived as mocking people.

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Ms. Mack
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In writing I use the person's name or they/them. I no longer use Ma'am or Sir. It costs me nothing.

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madbakes
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder how many of the people commenting have come across a trans person, and said person freaked out over a wrong pronoun. Sure, they exist, but I have yet to meet someone who is an a*****e about it.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do in fact encounter this regularly. However, these are young teens who are struggling to gain acceptance and are simply reacting to one too many problems. I would urge anyone who is freaked out on for inadvertently misgendering someone to remember they are likely going through a lot, a simple apology and stating you will not make the mistake again will go some way to helping the person feel respected and safe. Making a massive deal about the fact you were made to feel bad for 2 minutes is the overreaction.

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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I guess I could go with the English and French standard neutral pronouns, do go with calling transwomen like biological ones. But I can't do the customized makeshift personal pronouns. Especially when they evolve every 2 months (was really the case for one of our interns). She ended up passing as an entitled person, as by the end of the 6-month internship she 'went back' to the she/her.

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BROmanicus85
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This! And also, being called CIS as a heterosexual man, without being asked in advance if it bothers me or not! Kind of a double-standard, in my book...

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Glenn Cuneo
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't give a f**k about your silly assed pronoun b******t. Just tell me your name.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What I don't understand is that the same people who complain about people getting uncomfortable when you use the wrong pronouns seem to often be the same ones complaining about people introducing themselves with pronouns. Seems like some people just want to get to decide other people's gender for them

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You pronouns can take a hike. I will address you by your name. That's it.

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Jaya
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Has anyone ever had that happen in real life though? I meet lots of transgender and nonbinary people, and have accidentally misgendered many of them, nobody has ever been angry. And I've asked my trans/nonbinary friends and they also say they never get angry, unless someone keeps repeatedly misgendering them purposefully to hurt them. I think it's just a couple of crazy people who have been filmed and put online, and that's made us think this is common, when it really isn't.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ask me nicely and I'll use them with you. Be rude about it and my pronoun is "your esteemed master of time and space" and I demand you use it every sentence.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it's online and I don't know your pronouns, I just default to the ever neutral They/Them until notified

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it honestly hilarious that people can't handle using they/them. These are literally the pronouns used when you don't know what gender you are referencing, or referencing multiple genders. Expand your mind a smidge and use they/then more frequently.

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PixxelDust
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly! It's really funny when transphobes will say "they is not a singular pronoun" and then say something like "someone's parked THEIR car badly" or "looks like someone lost THEIR hat" etc

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a hard enough time remembering names. Adding pronoun fluidity just makes me feel tired.

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Mark Ward
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are 2 pronouns when it comes to sex. M or f. Wtf is they

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Sophia L.
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope, ain't gonna adapt. Stop forcing people to play pretend with you.

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Allen Packard
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for this! I have no idea what your pronouns are. But I have no problem with it. Just give me a minute and also a little understanding if i mess up.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've honestly only ever seen people politely reminding others when they accidentally use the wrong pronouns. I've never seen people get mad at others when they mess up, it's when the person purposely uses the wrong pronouns or doesn't care and makes a big deal about it that people get mad.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I saw a some BBC news interview and the woman being interviewed had a difficult name to pronounce. The interviewer struggled to pronounce her name correctly but instead of showing grace and some humility she choose to humiliate the poor man by repeatedly says "Try again". We do not have an inbuilt ability to know how ALL letters, vowels etc are pronounced depending on their origins and this was just poor. But then again, not surprising of how people react in todays 'I expect you to accomondate ME' society we now live in.

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Stephanie Barr
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know why people are so bent out of shape treating people as who they see themselves instead of how other people think they should see themselves. Is there too much happiness in the world already to let other people have a little?

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s kind to honor a person’s choice whenever possible.

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Nicole Barnes
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m happy to adapt but PLEASE can we agree on a non/gendered SINGULAR pronoun. “Them they” doesn’t work for a single person. Grammar is still important to communicate meaning. He/Him. She/her. Xe / Xer would work so much better!

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nicole. They/Them has been around for ages, it's not new and you probably use it all the time without noticing. Think about it - if I ask you what colour water bottle a random person (and you don't know the gender) should buy - your response would be ''I think THEY should buy xyz''

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've not been able to understand this - who says s/he hers/his to a person's face? - I use their name. Pronouns are for when you're referring to them to someone else eg "Lisa did a good job today, I think she's learning quickly' vs " Hey great job Lisa, you learn pretty quick!" - please make it make sense - seriously.

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Michelle
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aren't everyone's pronouns, when speaking directly to them, first person: You, Your and You're?

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David
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Within reason I'll try to call anyone by what they prefer to be called. But in day to day life in person (not typing about a person) I find I rarely use pronouns. Say my friend is "Sally". If I am talking in person I just talk because we already know who each other are. If I am asking a third person about Sally, I say, "Where did Sally go?" Not - "Where did he/she/they/it go?" I spend most Saturdays with an old friend. She would go by she/her. But I can't remember the last time I used those words in relation to her - except for just now when typing. It just rarely ever comes up in actual conversations with people.

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Jenn Olges
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no issue with this except one. My mind cannot process calling a single person by a plural pronoun. I fight to do it every time.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I (agender) find it hard in my native language also, but not in Englisch. They/them is also used for a single unknown person (someone left their umbrella, wonder if they will come pick it up) so it works easier for me.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is also Mz (Mizz) another term for women who don't want to disclose their marital status, and Mx (Mix) a term for non-binary people

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Týr Máni
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just use gender neutral pronouns until you know for sure. It's not that hard. Y'all just want to make excuses.

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M Kovacs
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The extreme hate if you don't get it right. Or feel the need to participate. Yes it is like religion.

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moggie63
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you feel the need to tell me your pronouns, I'm pretty sure we have nothing to discuss.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or ya know, accept the gender you were born as and there won't be an issue 🤷🏻‍♀️

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"Dweeb. How long is it gonna take for you infants to learn that your "pronouns" mean nothing at all? I see YOU just fine without them. Jasus, get over yourself."

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Jaya
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't you yourself have a preference for people to say he or she when talking about you? I don't think I know any women who don't mind being called 'he' or any men who don't mind being called 'she'. Pretty much everyone has a really strong preference to be called the gender they feel, it's just that for most people the gender they feel and their biological sex happen to be the same so nobody ever uses the wrong pronoun for them.

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But then don't start a discussion why you think the person is using the wrong pronouns on themselves

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I will not adapt. I will irritate you until your therapist refuses to listen to you anymore.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also known as: "I love to bully people. I am not aware yet that this is a completely ineffective way to deal with my own pain or frustrations. I think not having any empathy towards others is a good trait."

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Some people grow more anxious as they age because they feel like the world might be leaving them behind. Dr. Erickson says that this is a concern for people who subscribe to the narrative that it's all downhill from a certain age.

"We forget about everything we gain as we get older: wisdom, maturity, emotional stability, a clearly defined sense of self, not sweating the small stuff as much, and plenty of experience solving problems. It's about finding a way to use these strengths in a changing world," she explains.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Its now socially normal to not use caps or punctuation so that your thoughts are all one single stream of consciousness and really hard to read like reading ulysses but the kids dont even know or care what that is because they just want to get their thoughts all out at once without any regard for the reader and the annoyance it is to try to figure out what they are saying Signed: A pained English major.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Being around others while obviously sick. It’s been normalized because we have a garbage safety net that doesn’t allow people financially to take care of themselves and not make others sick. Or allow them to be off work to care for sick children. 40 years ago when unions were strong there were lots of sick days in lots of jobs and people mostly were able to stay home when really sick, in professional or union jobs anyway. There’s always been a segment of the working population that got screwed. But now more than ever we need generous sick leave policies in place for EVERYONE.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This one should be much higher in the ranking. It's completely normalized and unbearable. Teachers have already told me about cases of very sick kids whom parents still bring to school... then they have the nerve to complain when we call them to pick them up because they've vomited or have a high fever. The other day, I saw a lady at the supermarket coughing heavily into her hands before picking up items and casually putting them back... She continued to cough heavily and handle all the items 😒 It's selfish, disgusting, and frankly, I hate it.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Since this is the Ask Old People category, I disagree with people being dismissive because I am old. I have at least one more sucker punch left in me for the next ‘ok boomer’ comment I get in person.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my father was in his 70s & 80s, he would get annoyed by the "ageism" shown to him when out in public, at stores and even in the nursing home lived in for the last six months of his life. I'm not saying it's worse than the other "-isms" but it definitely is the one that seems ignored. This isn't about being treated differently because of dementia (how those people are treated is a whole other story), it was a much wider range of behaviours shown to him, including being talked to like he did have dementia, because people would presume he did. He would get frustrated and tell me "they treat me like I'm stupid" when an incident happened. He wasn't, his only crime was being an older person.

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Bored Panda also had a short chat with u/-----Diana-----, the author of this thread. "I got the idea for the question one morning when lying in bed," the young Redditor tells us. The user shared how she lives in a Romanian village where a big portion of the population is over 50. "They have lots to complain about," the Redditor chuckled.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays I'm really not comfortable will all the ads for betting and sports book platforms.

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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We can’t advertise alcohol, pharmaceuticals or nicotine in my country. However, we can advertise gambling. Guess which country has the highest amount of gambling losses? Edit to give more facts… we have HALF the entirety of the worlds slot machines, and the government gets 30% of every dollar put into them. And then add another 40% of tax from the owners of the slot machines for any gains on said slot machines.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Not being willing or able to just be superficially nice in social settings. Sometimes it's *okay* to just be pleasant instead of making your unique and specific viewpoint heard.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pretending we're all fine when we're not has, in my opinion, acerbated a lot of mental health issues. Better to talk them out then act them.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Tipping on everything. Especially with those iPads that spin around and awkwardly ask you for 10% because someone got you a muffin from behind the counter. Make it end.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is an everybody thinks this thing. It’s making for a hostile purchasing experience.

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The inspiration for the question came from a lady in her mid-70s, u/-----Diana----- tells us. She overheard the woman complaining about how her grandchildren were always on their phones. The Redditor then went to r/AskOldPeople to ask the older adults what things the younger generation does nowadays that bother them. "The answers there tend to be intriguing generally," the user adds.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays The assumption that if you say one thing you automatically believe something else. For example if you say that we should look at tightening up our gun control laws, that automatically means you're anti-gun and want to take away everybody's guns.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, the total inability to appreciate nuanced arguments. "If you're not with us, your against us" mentality that just breeds polarisation.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Playing with your phone while in the presence of live conversation.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents looking at their phones while their young children play around them is a sad sight to see.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Politics being your entire identity. They did this to us on purpose to divide us.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Religion" being your entire identity, "ethnicity" being your entire identity...

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u/-----Diana----- also told us that she's heard her fair share of complaints about young people from her grandparents. "They're both about to turn 70 years old this year," she says. According to the Redditor, they like to talk about how the young generation is self-absorbed and how people became worse and worse after the demise of Nicolae Ceaușescu and the fall of the communist regime in Romania.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Peak Cpitalism; the wealthy amassing even more wealth and not caring about a decent life for everybody.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Declarations of "body count" to dating partners. I don't like the violent implication of the term, and I don't like intimate history being tallied like a score.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's borderline dehumanizing, like some sick form of collecting trophies.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Never saying NO not your child.

It sounds very «boomer» - I know.

But I have two kids born early 2000s and one child born 2015, and just wow how many more kids are brats now.

Don’t get me wrong, kids have always been kids and act out, but now they are more rude.

We have always had the whole class in kids birthday and it has always been insane and loud, but with my youngest class I just can’t do it.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I call it laissez-faire parenting. No, you do need to teach your children respect and appropriate behavior.

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However, u/-----Diana----- agrees with some things the older people shared in this thread. She feels sad about how many young people of her generation seem to spend too much time on their phones and are not living in the moment. And while she thinks that the rise of loneliness might be imminent, she remains optimistic. All we need is some meaningful human contact, she says.

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My grandfather used to tell me that who you vote for is private. He and his wife never even shared with one another which candidate won their vote. I wish that was the case in modern times.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays A couple of things but the biggest one by far is the ear bud culture which just bleeds into a level of rudeness and isolation that’s unsettling. You might find small talk tedious but I promise you, the connection to the outside world that small talk creates is a gift to you. Humans aren’t meant to be so isolated.

As a parent I give a lot of rides. I can’t tell you how many teens have gotten into my car without even a simple hi or hello and sat there silently with their head in their phone and their ear pods in.

Say hi. Talk about the weather for a minute. It might be dumb but we are human and civility and connection matter. Otherwise all you’ve got is that phone and your ear buds. It’s kind of a bleak existence.

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The way that men are starting to call women "females" but when referring to men they say "men".

We are not lab specimens dude.

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#22

That every white woman who complains is a Karen. Sometime it’s a legitimate complaint.
Calling someone a Karen on Social Media has become such a lazy comeback for when you don’t agree with someone who appears to be female online.

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#23

I don't get why it's wrong to use punctuation when texting.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also why can't they spell out the words! Seriously, you don't pay by the character anymore. Misspelling and no punctuation, or the dreaded all caps/no caps is not a flex.

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#24

“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Recording everything.

Recording fights. Recording car crashes. Recording traffic stops (your own or others) when cops have body cams and dash cams already. Recording people in the gym (yourself or others), recording in public and getting mad at pedestrians for ‘ruining the shot’.

Heck, people were even standing there like insane people recording the Super Bowl parade shooting. Like dude…LEAVE THE AREA OR HIDE. Don’t stand there drooling with a phone in your hand for internet clout or to sell it to the news.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cops are infamous for turning off or obscuring their cameras when they know they're doing something illegal, people recording things has helped expose things that otherwise would lack the kind of evidence needed to take them to task. Additionally, while recording events like a shooting are terrible, footage like that has been used by law enforcement to apprehend perpetrators. It's not exclusively a negative thing.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Children having access to social media.

I think nothing good comes of it.

I got other parent friends who have no issue with their kids scrolling tiktok, or being on whatsapp groups (I was an older mum, my kid is still primary school age).

(She says, acknowledging the irony of posting this on reddit).

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Schoolkids getting beaten up because of a comment under a FB post - it's becoming pretty "normal" nowadays...

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I went for a walk at a park recently. There was a guy entering the trail while holding his phone out and talking into it. Everyone got to hear his c**p instead of the relaxing nature sounds. Isn’t he special?

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

J rod apparently feels attacked on basically every single number on this list. Imagine what a backwards redneck he must be

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays People posting their entire lives online. I'm probably excessively private but it's really crazy how people are so willing and even eager to broadcast their personal lives to the world.

I don't think people fully appreciate how possible it is to string together little details from multiple sources and form a detailed picture of someone's life. That should scare people.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that's about to get a lot scarier. I came across a tool that uses AI-powered facial recognition to search the web. I tried it with my own face using a fairly old low-resolution social-media profile pic in which part of my face is covered with a graphic. I don't have much of a web presence but it found pictures of me in a bar in another country, with different hair, beard etc, that my sister put on Insta. I couldn't help but think how easily this could be abused.

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#28

“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Wearing pajamas and slippers to go shopping. People, if you can't be bothered to put on fresh clothes, don't go out in public. Also, do they then wear those pajamas to bed? Ew!

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who cares? It's not affecting your life beyond the fact that you're choosing to pay attention to it.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Emotional support dogs/pets pretending to be service dogs Dragging your dog every f-ing where. I love dogs,I foster dogs,I train dogs,I have 4 huge dogs....that don't go shopping/to festivals/everywhere with me. Also letting your dog with c**p recall off leash and thinking that screaming he's friendly makes it better. And not picking up your dogs s**t on hiking trails,that's just rude and ignorant. And petting strangers dogs,um no keep your hands to yourself please Those disgusting long nails some women sport like little wearable petri dishes. Talking about politics,money or religion in every social setting. It was so much nicer when people realized that not every gathering needed to be bombarded with contentious subjects.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with most of this, if not all. It's just a little hard to decode without the use of punctuation.

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The thought of if you can't accept me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best.

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That the following are OK with a large swath of the population:

Shoplifting

Fighting

Shooting each other

Yelling

Using outdoor voices indoors and drawing everyone's attention to you

Lack of customer service.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am thankful this list is one shorter here in Australia - "shooting each other".

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Vaping in public really bothers me. I hated it when restaurants and bars were filled with cigarette smoke before 1990 (or whenever that changed). Now, I hate seeing people vaping everywhere I go. I see it at concerts, in bars, restaurants, grocery stores, the gas station -- everywhere.

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Basic manners. My gran must be affecting about 500 rpm in her grave, right about now.

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Interrupting someone while they’re talking.

Maybe it’s just me bc it’s a huge pet peeve but I feel like I’m constantly being interrupted or people are always talking over one another. When I politely say, “excuse me, I was in the middle of talking” or “hold on a sec please so I can finish what I was saying” I get looked at like I have 3 heads or like I’m totally out of line when I say something about it.

Again maybe it’s just me, but imo interrupting people mid sentence and talking over others is now for some reason socially acceptable - by both adults and kids no matter the setting - and I don’t get it. Now I feel like the abnormal one for thinking that’s it’s rude or for feeling slightly offended when someone does it to me. Tbh I literally physically cringe when I’m there and witness it happening to someone else while they’re talking lol. It’s wild to me.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By the length of this post, I can tell YOU are the talker, and people only interrupt because you won't stop talking. I have a friend like this. The only way we have a conversation instead of her just talking at me the whole time, I HAVE to interrupt.

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Sharing every aspect of yours and also your children's lives on social media.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate when my parents share photos of me online. I can’t imagine how someone feels when their parents post 20 times that.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Yaknow...... I wish people still dressed up *a little* more. I dine at some seriously nice restaurants and it's while overall I guess it's OK if someone decides to dine there in a t-shirt, cargo shorts and flip flops but I gotta say it sorta reduces my own experience, especially if we're celebrating a special occasion.

OK, I'll stop being grumpy now.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is one I really don’t care about. You do you. As long as everyone is well behaved, my experience is unaffected.

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#37

“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Texting instead of sitting down and having an actual conversation especially about difficult topics.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the flip side I have one child who struggles A LOT with expressing herself and talking about difficult or emotional subjects. Especially in person. So we text. It has probably saved her life.

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#38

Constantly doing stuff on your phone. The gym had to put up little signs on all the weight machines asking people to give others a turn instead of just sitting there on their phones – and the place is still full of people sitting on the machines glued to their phones. The effect when you walk into a room like that is eerie.

I’m much more of a phone addict than I’d like to be, but I’m trying to be more mindful and not just automatically reach for it every time there’s a lull, whether between sets or waiting for an elevator or whatever. Practicing my lost art of just looking around and thinking my thoughts and tolerating boredom.

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“Total Ignorance Of Science”: 40 Older Adults Point Out Weird Things That Are “Normal” Nowadays Mine is that nobody is taught cursive anymore, and they surely can't read it! My fdil's little brother (19) couldn't sign his name for his driver's license and had to ask her to do it for him.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was taught cursive but could never write it clearly. Gave it up in high school after a teacher insisted students write cursive, then gave me a 0 because she couldn’t read my handwriting. She called me an illiterate slob, so I later sent her a copy of my first novel signed (and printed) as such. Never received a thank you note. How rude…

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#40

Refusing to go one teenie tiny step outside your job description. If we all want to have a smooth work process sometimes you need to reach out to the other people involved in the process and work together to make things efficent.


Also, its no ones JOB to order more vacuum bags or sponges at work. If you see something that needs addressed for the good of the office, just f*****g do it.


This is a HUGE pet peeve of mine.. lol.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You give an inch the company will take a mile and EXPECT it. Do NOT take on tasks that are outside your job or it will become your job. Tell your boss that there are no more vacuum bags or the coffee machine is broken. Send it UP the chain, not down.

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