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What do job hunting and being chased through the streets by zombies have in common? They’re both nightmares. But job hunting might actually be worse because it’s something we still have to face after waking up. It's stressful enough in its own right, but communicating with frustrating recruiters and hiring managers can make the process so much worse. Thankfully, those of us who have encountered terrible recruiters have a space where we can share those stories: the Recruiting Hell subreddit. We’ve gone through to find some of the most ridiculous stories of unrealistic expectations and unprofessional emails from recruiters, so we hope as you read them you don't relate too much to the pain these job hunters have experienced. Enjoy this list, and if you're not too heated by the end, go on to check out Bored Panda’s last publication on the same topic right here next.

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As An Autistic Person, I Despise Everything About This!

As An Autistic Person, I Despise Everything About This!

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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A huge part of this also applies to people with social anxiety.

Zero
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A huge part of this also applies to people in general.

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Swanson Swanson
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3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel this and i dont have autism. The hiring process rewards extroversion and being a smooth talker above all else. So i cant imagine how shitty it is for folks with autism.

Pandaroo
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. I've seen extroverts with the work ability of a chimp get promoted ahead of me because they know how to talk the talk. Meanwhile, I just get work done but no one notices.

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Babsevs
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And that's if you get the opportunity to even try the task....many ND people can't get past the application form! Form filling is a huge barrier to ND people

kath morgan
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I relate to this on a profound level.

Marianne
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's bad enough for people not being on the spectrum. I never thought about how much worse it is for an autistic person.

Eleanor Green
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel so seen! Have lost so many opportunities because of this. The only jobs I can get are assistant jobs. I hate it! I'm not good with people and I am not a natural care-giver, or conversationalist. Give me tasks, hard or menial tasks and I will crush them. Wish I could find help.

LagoonaBlueColleen
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 2nd last interview I felt so uncomfortable and nervous I couldn't look at her when I was speaking. I was aware of it and told her I wasn't comfortable with direct eye contact. I thought it was social anxiety until my last interview where I felt more comfortable with the interviewer and was able to look in her direction. Now I know my own subconscious signs of when I should just quit the interview.

Jon Steensen
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3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Apllying for a job is hell, full stop. It is not only if you are autistic it is tormenting, you just have to be a human to experience a lot of what you describe. What most employers are after, simply does not exist, or they are looking for the one in a million person. Furthermore they are rarely aware of exactly what they need, and instead they just write a jobproposal filled with all kinds of fancy buzzwords, so it will be hard to tell exactly what they expect of you. One example is "extrovert" wich you often see in the job proposals. Never ever have I seen the word introverted in there, despite it will the type of personality that is far better suited for many jobs like engineering or accountace and so forth. But no, we all have to pretent to be extroverted, because that is what makes a good impression at the interview.

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Negative encounters with hiring managers are an unfortunately common occurrence, as the Recruiting Hell subreddit has amassed 285k members over the last 6 years. With the tagline “we’ll pay you in experience!”, the community states that it’s “for all of those recruiters and candidates who really don’t get it” and asks members to post their “horror stories” and “amazing” job offers. There are various issues that prospective employees often have with recruiters, but it appears that the nature of the job itself does not serve those being recruited. 

According to Brandon Savage, a full time consultant and blogger, a recruiter is the “nemesis of job searching”. Savage explains on his blog that recruiters are typically paid based on how many people they place and how high the salaries of those positions are. This means that since they’re essentially working on commission, they often have very little knowledge of the positions they’re hiring for and are willing to do or say whatever is necessary to fill roles.

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    I Ran Into One Today

    I Ran Into One Today

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    DennyS (denzoren)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've never understood why a gap on a resume is a bad thing. I have a two year gap where I was laid off before I found a new job. How is that a bad thing? Jobs are hard to get and I work in a niche field. Also, I did a lot of small part-time stuff but I'm not gonna list it all.

    Kathryn Baylis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That amount of time looking for work is a reality, especially now. The pandemic and lockdown changed all the rules about how employers should look at resume gaps. What I’m finding is the two years has put me into another decade, age wise, and I’m encountering ageism because of it All. The. Damn. Time.

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    Joshua Seaman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Question: Do people make up stories on LinkedIn? Because this sounds like it could be one.

    monkeydog
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LinkedIn is full of self-aggrandizing drivel like this.

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    Phil Vaive
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Resume gaps are absolutely none of anybody's business. Why does it matter to you what I was doing with my life before you ever met me?

    Alma Muminovic
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His resume gap is none of your business and should not be even mentioned. If someone has the means to take a year off and they want to then they should be able to without having to explain why.

    David Woollands
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gap on my cv - none of your business pal - I’ll do what I want, when I want!! If I want 6 months off I will literally walk out of a job if I need to!!! It’s called a choice

    Orshi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where is the unrealistic requirement in this one?

    James016
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife had a 7 year gap in her CV as she was a full time mum. When she started applying for jobs as a teaching assistant for SEN children, we put her being a full time mum to an autistic child as her last "job". Now she works full time as a SEN TA.

    Irish Lad
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an employer it isn't the gap so much as how you explain the why's and the length of the gap.

    Em
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why? Why can't someone take a year off work and do nothing? Why does it have to be "explained"? It's none of anyones business! If they want a job, they want a job! If they've got the qualifications etc why can't they have the job?!?!

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    Ivana
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get why resume gaps are an issue. I interview a lot of people and I have never asked someone to explain a gap.

    Babsevs
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I find that most with a *gap* are desperate to tell you why it's there. I don't ask during interviews, yet I find so many candidates want to let you know what they were doing in an attempt to reassure you they were not wasting time.

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    kathryn stretton
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sure it hurt him to tell you, but so glad he did, and that you got so much out of it.

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    #3

    Can I Get A Second To The Motion?

    Can I Get A Second To The Motion?

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    Justme
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Be sure to put them on hold at some point so they can hear the gawdawful hold noise everyone has to listen to.

    Lizzy Crit
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thanks,now I have the Peanuts theme in my head

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Make them wait two months for a reply—-that they decided to hire from within instead.

    Zero
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't forget the part where you attach your resume, fill in all of that resume into neat boxes, then the first round of interviews is basically repeating everything on your resume.

    Cassie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Companies are losing quality labor due to faulty algorithms needlessly eliminating candidates and due to application systems that fail to function properly or are too convoluted to be reasonable.

    Amanda Lawrence
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is assuming the CEO cares, and also doesnt know.

    Isaac Harvey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And then they decline the offer to make the interviewer more likely to be nicer towards future interviewees.

    ohjojo (you/your's)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And to see if they're even eligible for any of the job at their own company

    Adrienne Mcginley
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More. They should be required to work for & (try) to live on minimum wage for a year.

    Mark Serbian, PK&RG,W
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Alaska Airlines makes the members of their board of directors eat airline food at every meeting. Serves 'em right...

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    Now, let’s not demonize every hiring manager and recruiter out there. I’m sure plenty of people have had smooth and positive experiences job hunting. Brandon notes in his blog that if a company has an in-house recruiter, “working with them is perfectly fine and normal”. When contacted by someone about an opening, Brandon recommends checking that person’s email address to see if it’s connected to the company you’re interested in working for.

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    He also warns job hunters to be wary of any uninvited solicitations from recruiters. If you’re contacted, out of the blue, by someone who compliments you on your skills and pitches another position to you, they're likely just looking for commission. If you're actually interested in the role, you can submit your resume the old fashion way and you're likely to have just as much luck. Don't give a misleading recruiter the satisfaction of making a profit off of you.

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    #4

    A Story Of Two Parts, Recruiter Edition

    A Story Of Two Parts, Recruiter Edition

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    Caro Caro
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wet wipe !! Brilliant response.

    Kate Jones
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    why does this recruiter even care? tattle-tailing for no reason. what a dildo.

    Beth S
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I shall start referring to idiots as wet wipes from now on LOL

    mulk
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will try it on social media too (I speak french). PS: "lingette humide"

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    mulk
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The recruiter didn't check who is talking to, didn't check for which employer he work,... *facepalm*

    Alma Muminovic
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lmao. 😂 Was he telling on you but also trying to recruit you?

    YHZ
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What gets me is that the recruiter didn't notice that s/he'd already dialed that number, and was in a conversation with that person.

    censor
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I adore british insults. "You a**e-faced hat-badger" etc.

    Isaac Harvey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Insults added to my list: “wet wipe” and “dry wipe.”

    Just me
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just funny... Twat.

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    #5

    Funny How The Language Changes Between People And Businesses

    Funny How The Language Changes Between People And Businesses

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    Gurnox
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want loyalty, employ dogs

    Mama Penguin
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But even dogs bark and bite if you mistreat them.

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thing is, that’s not really profit, it’s just cutting back and reducing your spending. Hell, everyone tightens the belt once in a while, in order to free up money for important stuff. But we loosen it when things get better—-oddly, when a corporation does it, they don’t loosen the belt when things get better, they just call it record profits, even though it’s not. Real profit is when you have a full staff that you pay what they’re worth and give not only merit raises but cost of living raises too (until Reagan, companies did give yearly raises that matched cost of living increases), everything’s covered and is running smoothly, and you sell a big enough fuckton of your product to be comfortably in the black—-without slashing your overhead to do so. Having to cut everything down to the bone in order to cross from red to black is false profit.

    Zero
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People stopped being loyal to their companies when the companies stopped being loyal to their workers - 401k instead of pension, pointless layoffs, penny pinching, insane golden parachutes, etc.

    Paul Davis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's like that in every authoritarian system. Robbing the country and murdering your own citizens for profit and fun is good - resisting getting robbed or murdered or helping to rob and murder your fellow citizens is evil.

    That'sEndorable
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We're just going to shoehorn this into every thread we can, huh?

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    #6

    This Should Be Mandatory Training For All Interviewers

    This Should Be Mandatory Training For All Interviewers

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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. Pretty much the only way I'd judge a candidate in under 60 seconds is if they showed up with a machete and a hand grenade. Then again, I work in graphic design, so what do I know about other job requirements? On the other hand, my colleagues are pretty decent, so sarcasm is as much weaponry as one needs in my office.

    Zero
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Sir, why are you covered in blood and have a roll of duct tape & shovel."_____ "Sorry, hit a deer & had to put it out of its misery, then felt so bad I needed to bury it. But it wouldn't fit in the hole so I had to tape its legs together."

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do not forget ageism. Just because I’m 61 dies not mean I can afford to retire. I missed the boomer gravy train, and have worked jobs that didn’t pay enough to put aside much. Then I went back to school, when I was much older, to get a degree that would put me in line for promotions, and the pandemic hit. So now I’m facing ageism at a time when I share the millennials’ problem of student loans to pay back—-and I no longer have a whole lifetime ahead of me to do so. I’m trying to start my own company, since no one seems to want to even give me an interview, but you know it takes time before it’ll really take off. So I’m pretty much f****d for retiring, and will be working until I drop dead.

    ZombieGirl
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope things get better for you, Kathryn! You are just as valuable as everyone else!

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    MoJo1979
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally true, I have been in to a number of interviews where someone has immediately looked me up and down and I know their exact thought is, she's lazy cause she's fat and I didn't get those jobs. Ones where they actually took time to get to know me during the interview, I have succeeded in and been with my company now for 15 years and progressed quite rapidly because I work damn hard.

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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is exactly why people need to tell their biases to STFU and let the interview proceed. A few Christmases past, I told two elementary-school nephews about fat people who've been wonderful to me (the mentor at work, the good friend, etc.). I don't want them to judge people on their physical weight. I told them character is what counts.

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    Patricia Julius
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't make this just about race. There is also age, gender, and disability discrimination. I have heard interviewers comment afterwards about knowing a candidate would not advance because they "just didn't like their look".

    Donkey boi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My current boss (who started after me), was one of those older generation, "Old boys club", stereotype 1970-1990's CEO types. He later admitted to me, 'If I'd been the one to interview you, I would never have given you a job. A big, hairy, scary looking bloke with tattoos... It wouldn't have mattered what you said, I wouldn't have given you the job'. He did also say that it would have been the biggest mistake, but he wouldn't have known it, and it made him realise that sometimes you never know what you've lost so will never learn. Now he gives everyone a chance and even calls some of them if he thinks they were just too nervous and gives them an opportunity to go over things on the phone. You can teach an old dog new tricks!

    RafCo
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now things swing the other way. You need for days of six hours long interview sessions. It's insane. Not saying racism is good, or that you can tell a good candidate in one minute

    The Starsong Princess
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve ruled people out after sixty seconds but they have to be exceptionally awful. Like a sexist remark during the small talk on the way to the room or wearing a t-shirt with an obnoxious saying to an office job.

    Debbie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have judged candidates in under 60 seconds of seeing them, but ofcourse did have the interview, hoping my first impressions were wrong. This was entry level servicedesk job and they worked at the same company as me, they were mostly students. Posture, way of dressing, handshake, general body language. They would have to be socially skilled and be able to deal with clients on the phone. Some guys were just buy fit for that. Great techs, smart people, but socially a bit awkward. Not fit a first contact position.

    Pizzagirl 91
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've judged SOME people before they even showed up for the interview, because being an arrogant a**e to the person who might hire you when they call you back to make out an appointment, or being very late without calling, or handing in a CV that looks like Hagrid just sat on it, is just something I don't like. I'm very glad to have switched to a nice, work-from-home job where I barely have to spend much time with anyone outside my team.

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    J
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I googled my candidates, if they didn't come up with any recent or serious convictions, then I would interview them. Found one guy who claimed he worked in his sister's cafe, when he had just been released from prison for fraud in the industry he was applying to work in. He didn't get hired!

    censor
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    3 years ago

    I think you can judge peoples' character once you have had enough experience in life. Looking past their weight, race, height, etc., you can see certain things, like how they stand etc. There's an art to body-language reading. And depending on the job, some people are better suited to this or that. I met an introverted guy once who had great fake confidence body language. He is really good in sales, but totally introverted. Another woman I met in an interview wasn't that great in her CV but confident as a person, and as an employee she worked out great. You place people where they want to be.

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    Even when you’re not dealing with an outside recruiter, it is common to encounter unrealistic expectations in job postings. In her piece for Forbes “Why So Many Job Postings Are So Ridiculous”, career coach Nancy Collamer provides this example: “Progressive employer seeks Harvard-trained neuroscientist and beauty pageant winner. Must be fluent in Mandarin and skilled at tribal basket weaving. Minimum of 10 years experience working for high-tech companies. Salary: mid-30’s.” 

    While that’s an obvious exaggeration, many job postings might as well say that when they ask for laughable skills and levels of experience for puny salaries in return. Nancy lists several reasons why postings like this somehow make their way to the internet, including that the employer is inexperienced at hiring and they just don’t know better. She notes that in many companies, particularly small ones, hiring can get passed off to people who have no experience (and no business) writing job descriptions.

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    #7

    Hey Recruiters, Answer Me This!

    Hey Recruiters, Answer Me This!

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    Mama Penguin
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, "commensurate with experience". Right....

    Kathryn Baylis
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Related experience or direct? Because if experience matters so much, why aren’t they even looking at resumes of older applicants? Oh, I do know. They’re looking for young, green, and fresh out of college, so a real cheap bargain—-who they won’t even train for the specific skills the company requires. Remember when they were promoting the idea that the real go-getters created their own jobs in their companies? Or the trend of letting new employees train themselves—-or just ask if there was anything they needed to know? I had one try the latter. My response was that was their job to tell me what I needed to know. That I was new to the industry and didn’t know what I needed to know. A later one kept talking about the concept of the industry during training. I said I already understood the concept, I needed to know the mechanics, like training on using their program so I can jump in and start working with it. Companies need to get their heads out of their asses, cut out all the b******t they’ve peddled since 1980, and come back into the real world.

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    Lech Dąbrowski
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Salary so competitive, it will compete with your expenses...

    Bird SharkRawr
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A job without pay listed is about as appealing as any item for sale that says ‘Call for price’..

    JuniorCJ82
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the biggest red flags of recruitment of all time... "competitive salary"...

    LagoonaBlueColleen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't even know what "competitive salary" means. I get a feeling that just means commission sales where you're competing with the other sales people.

    Tiggy Darling
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Competitive"? Not 'Leading', 'one of the best', or even 'above average'. In a race of 10 people "competitive' would count for positions 6-10 so long as last place was within sight of a medal.

    Brian Brown
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because advertizing helps the competition and raises pruces more

    Beth Burgh
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This, can't tell you the number of times I've applied someplace and they don't even give a range. Benefits are nice, but if the wage can't pay my bills then what's the point?

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    Got An Email From A Recruiter Today. I Was Interested Until They Disclosed The Pay. It’s Seriously Insultingly Low For The Role And Requirements. So I Told Them Just That Over Email

    Got An Email From A Recruiter Today. I Was Interested Until They Disclosed The Pay. It’s Seriously Insultingly Low For The Role And Requirements. So I Told Them Just That Over Email

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    GirlFriday
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love this. I love this so much!!

    Troux
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Experience in Business Analysis"..."provides revenue analysis"..."investigating formulas and understand how things are tied together".....Well guess what your candidate just did?

    Pipe Kasuko
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The response is excellent; The result is that corporations attach such responses to documentation to justify offshoring our jobs. I do understand the dilemma, just that corporations just don't give a s**t. Strange that entities ineligible to vote control the politicians whom we VOTE for. We, the people, NEED to take this power back from these non-voting entities. Simply put, these entities have replaced the Kings and Queens of old.

    CaptainDinosaur
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't lace up my boots for $20 an hour.

    Mike Loux
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As someone who has been in SW development for 25+ years, I get a crapton of recruiter emails on LinkedIn. About 25% of them include the salary range up front. Which is sad, but it has been increasing over the years (the percentage, that is). It's a start, but ultimately ALL emails need to contain the salary range, and stop wasting people's time.

    Basko
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sure, but could have been better if if he would represent these data in an excel plot...

    Kathryn Baylis
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hiring managers need to get their heads out of their asses and start dancing to the NEW beat!

    Tim
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And what was the recruiter's reply?

    Brian Brown
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We let rich people profit because theyre rich. Get used to it

    CelticElff
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you for taking the time to educate them, too!

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    #9

    4+ Years Of Experience In A 2 Year Old Technology

    4+ Years Of Experience In A 2 Year Old Technology

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    Elaine N
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would go for an interview just for the fun of it if I created that thing 😅

    Memere
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And make sure to include absolute proof that you created it, with the actual date of creation!

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    Paul Davis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First you'd have to successfully explain how software works to ignorant and uncaring HR people and executives

    zak
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe they put that so they can throw out any applicants who list more than 1.5 years experience, since they know they're all liars?

    Adrienne Mcginley
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, I'd love to be a fly on the wall during that interview!

    Pipe Kasuko
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perhaps the development time of the API can count towards the 4 years of required experience!

    Mark Secker
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once applied for a job that "needed" 5 years experience supporting Windows 10... when Windows 10 had only been out just, almost exactly, 4 years, I applied stating "as I was in a Microsoft partnership that did beta testing of Windows 10 from day one I have 4 years and 8 months experience" didn't get the job... maybe they thought I was being snarky ... no idea who they did get apart from that they were probably a lier.

    Brian Brown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Probably just aptitude test stop playing eugenics

    Elsie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So if you created it 1.5 years ago how could anyone have 4+ years experience

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the point. It happens all of the time in tech (where creation/invention dates are much more recent) where HR posts they want X years of experience in a field that's only been around a couple of years.

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    Another reason you might find unrealistic job postings is because an employer is willing to wait for the perfect candidate, regardless of whether or not they actually exist. There’s no problem with wanting to hire the best person for a position, but having a wish list with too many unattainable qualifications can actually deter candidates from applying in the first place. Nancy notes that these could also be “phantom postings”. These are created when companies are obligated to post open positions publicly, but they already know they want to hire someone inside the office. With an over-the-top job description, outsiders are less likely to apply, and the favored candidate on the inside will have an advantage. Phantom postings are a huge waste of everyone’s time, but unfortunately, they do happen.  

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    #10

    That Backfired Spectacularly

    That Backfired Spectacularly

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    GirlFriday
    Community Member
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why, when we didn't post the salary in the job listing (that has changed), I would open up the conversation by telling the applicant the hours and the salary. Then they were free to leave if those things didn't suit them.

    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As you should. I never understood why they think it benefits them to not post the pay. It’s a waste of time for everyone including themselves.

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    Irish Lad
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had one like this where it was a group interview. I was the only one who stood up mid sentence and the guy was, "Yes?" I said, "From your description, you don't pay enough for this job." And I walked out. Everyone else just stay, poor slobs.

    Dawnieangel76
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My last job told me if I could find another job to pay me what I believed I was worth, I knew where the door was. After 7 damned years. When I turned in my 2 week's notice, they had the GALL to look shocked & betrayed. Told them I found the door.

    Cornell Tramontana
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interviews should be 2 way: not only for an applicant, but also for the potential employer to show that the company is worthy of the applicant — particularly if the company doesn’t the job to be seen as interim.

    Isaac Harvey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He inadvertently saved you from hell.

    ohjojo (you/your's)
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They have your number, if they want you they'll raise the salary and call you

    JuniorCJ82
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Geez, talk about burying the lead.

    JuniorCJ82
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An hour of her life she'll never get back.

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    #11

    We Don’t Count Internships As Experience Here, So Let’s Just Forget All Of That

    We Don’t Count Internships As Experience Here, So Let’s Just Forget All Of That

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    Mohammad Ammar
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, what else are internships then? Something we do for fun?

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not for "fun": for free, because we love that! *irony*

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    Paul Davis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It constantly amazes me the lengths that companies go to drive away any potential good employees.

    Laura Gillette
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "We won't hire you without experience. Only internships take people without experience." "We don't count internships as experience." Also, unpaid internships, unless you're getting school credit for them, are technically against the law in the US--unpaid labor is not allowed. They should be called "volunteers" not "interns."

    Emmett O'Brian
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've heard plenty of people say "you should include things like you hobbies" on resumes. I've never had anyone count it as experience, or even a plus. It seems like hiring companies do everything they can to discredit experience you have. I had a company doubt my coding ability, so they showed me code and I explained what it was doing line by line. They admitted I was right. They still acted like I didn't know what I was talking about.

    Mike Loux
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FB seems like a toxic company to work for. I realize it's a status symbol to work at a FAANG company, but...no thanks.

    Camo Pena
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    then wtf is the point of interning? stupid

    Phil Vaive
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That was the interviewee's sign to get up and walk out

    Fredrika
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But why did it say Internships then? I don't understand.

    Chloé-Louis Beaugrand
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It didn't. Just as the years were the same as the years they were in college, the recruiter thought that it could not be anything but internship because who works during their college years (sarcasm)

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    Gregory Mead
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interesting considering that businesses take on (often without pay, as I understand it) interns as experience builders. Sounds like they really just wanted slaves.

    Brian Brown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thats nice. Their IQ isnt high enougj for them to comprehend me so I cant be their lackey

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    #12

    People Are Human And Human Things Happen

    People Are Human And Human Things Happen

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    LagoonaBlueColleen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    10 years ago, I had spotty employment, with the longest stint at a job 1 year. The rest of the time I was a stay at home mom and job searching, while my common law husband was working. Staying at home and caring for a child raises so many eyebrows, like I had spent years in prison or something bad. It felt as if they thought I was a welfare mom, because I looked so young, even though that was not the case at all. No one should have to explain themselves. You already have to tick off on the application whether you've been convicted of a crime or not, and maybe provide a criminal record/child abuse registry check. Anything else is not their concern.

    Bexx 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s admirable! I’m sorry you were made to feel ashamed :( you sound like you’ve got a solid head on your shoulders though!

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    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To play devil's advocate, it's a valid question because an employer needs to know if it's going to be worth investing the time training you and you're reliable if you haven't been able to keep a job for at least a year. Training can be a lot of work just to have it wasted on someone we trusted wanted the job and then left. A large gap is actually better because, clearly, something happened there. It's small gaps that are more concerning. Using this woman's example, I absolutely wouldn't hire her. I'm not putting in all that work because you need to 'prioritize me.' Well that's nice, but clearly you couldn't do that for long because you got another job and quit within a year. Twice. So, it is our business and, really, it's not our loss since looking at your history, we wouldn't have had you long anyway.

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not the gaps themselves that matter; it's the length of time at previous positions.

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    Jay Walsh
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand your indignation, but you are potentially competing with people that DIDN"T take 8-10 years away from the skills they are hiring for. Despite the reasons, you are NOT as qualified as them. (cue angry groans)...You go into the doctors, you need say, knee surgery. "Doctor, it's been 10 years since I did any kind of surgery, but I'm fully qualified", or do you go to the guy that has repaired 150 knees in the past 10 years? to extreme? "I repaired a collapsing chimney once 10 years ago, it'll be fine" vs. "Chimney pros, we fix em every week, and know your area better than most"....so, while it might be "none of their business", it matters to them, if they are going to go out on a limb for you, they want to know if it's worth the risk...not all jobs are like this of course.

    Id row
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All this tells me is that the candidate is unreliable and will get defensive if she doesn't get time off to prioritize herself or her family. We'd all like time off to prioritize ourselves and our families. I get that gaps happen, but she has a lot and some of those explanations don't do her any favors, they just make her sound entitled.

    Lazy Panda
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it's a gap that means she wasn't employed, so it's not like taking vacation time off. Plenty of hardworking people decided being home was better for themselves and their families in 2020-2021! And interesting that you think her explanations sound entitled, while her whole (perfectly reasonable) point is that she doesn't owe a potential employer an explanation at all.

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    Irish Lad
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, you are gonna hate me. But while she had some good excuses, there was some questionable times too. Maybe a fuller explanation? In the last 3 years there were gaps. How do I know, as an employer, this isn't going to continue?

    Paul D
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand people think that gaps shouldn’t matter but for a recruiter if they are getting hundreds of applications gaps stand out - but it’s not always a bad thing. Often what you did whilst out of work can stand out… taking a year out to care for someone shows a caring nature…maybe you went back to school to better yourself…maybe you took time out to start a family and are looking to get back into work. We kinda just want to check those gaps weren’t just sat doing nothing, criminal activities etc

    Isaac Harvey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was diagnosed with childhood brain cancer in August 2013, eventually had to have chemotherapy from August 2017-November 2018, and was diagnosed with epilepsy in May 2020, and my grandmother passed away (peacefully, and she is religious) earlier this year. And I’m only 18.

    The Cute Cat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think asking what is in the gap year is different with simple let go people with gap year in their resume. I have been a recruiter for some time. I know that it is a bit personal to ask... But in order to know well a person, that is a logical thing to be check.. If you reason is normal.. like when you just spend sometime traveling in africa.. then it is okay.. or even better if your reason is tend to your parent, then we could say that you are a person with a good hearth..

    Mike Loux
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gaps in employment have zero bearing on a person's ability to do their job. And yet employers hold it against people.

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not about the ability to do the job; it's about the ability to STAY at the job. I don't want to hire and train someone who has no intention of staying. Gaps are not necessarily the problem, either. You need to take a year off to go travel-that's actually really interesting to me as an employer. But MULTIPLE gaps, say, someone who has had 4 jobs in a year, warn me that a person may have no intention of staying. I'd rather take a chance on someone who seems more reliable.

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    ThumbsUpGuy
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    they left off: "I had a horrible job and got fired with cause for ______________ . I knew my former boss would give me a horrible recommendation. Hire me anyway."

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    When it comes to responding to companies asking for far too much in their job postings, it can be difficult to know when it’s still worth it to apply. If you’re actually interested in the position, Nancy recommends finding someone within the company who you can talk to candidly about the role and what it’s like working there. Perhaps you have a friend or a LinkedIn contact there who would be willing to help. She also says that a good rule of thumb is the “70% rule”, meaning that if you fit about 70% of the requirements listed, it’s still worth it for you to apply. This is particularly important for women to keep in mind, as they tend to be more modest when applying for jobs. You can also keep an eye on how long a position has been posted online. If a company has been looking to fill a role for months, they might start to lower their expectations or be more willing to negotiate. If you submitted your resume months ago and no one has been hired yet, don’t be scared to circle back and see if you can still be considered.

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    #13

    Interviewing For My First Recruiting Job - Why Did I Start This Life??

    Interviewing For My First Recruiting Job - Why Did I Start This Life??

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    John Smith
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And expect every hr department to bsod with such a reply 🤣

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    Pipe Kasuko
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my youth, my strategy was to land a job, any job, did not matter as long as it covered my bills. Ask for at least 2-4 weeks till I started; Then go to other interviews in complete confidence that I had NOTHING to lose. At the end of the month, I could pick and choose which job worked best for my interests at that particular time in my life. EG: When I was in my teens to early 20's, I picked a job a beer distributor over many office job offers. Owner was awesome, all the employees got to split any the unbroken bottles from any broken cases and take them! It did not happen often, but when someone did drop a pallet - BONANZA!!! I had a blast till I was about 22-23, and only then got serious with my career.

    Brian Brown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As long as my boss does proportionally more work yes its ok

    #14

    That's It

    That's It

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    Syrah
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm still technically waiting to hear if a got a job I interviewed for 8 years ago, am assuming I didn't ;)

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand the confrontational part of not wanting to give someone bad news. But as someone who waited to hear back about an opportunity and basically got ghosted, I'm fine with getting an auto email just saying 'your application has been denied, thank you for your interest.' Fine, I can move on and not pass up something else because i'm waiting to hear from you.

    Memere
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't mind not hearing back if all I've done is sent in my resume/CV. But if I've gone in for an interview, that's a completely different case - the interviewer should definitely do the bare minimum to email or even send a form letter.

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    Something
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not that hard not to ghost someone professionally.

    Lisa Intally
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or worse, you've been hired, but waitlisted. As in, you have a job, kind of, with no hours yet, so don't apply anywhere eise.

    Irish Lad
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can thank lawyers for the "non-reply." If a employers tells you "Nope." You, of course, want to know, "Why?" Then it gets sticky, legal-wise. Which is too bad, I know.

    Tracy
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I interviewed at Macy’s for a basic retail position. I was sent a “not a good fit” email before I returned home… for retail???

    Brian Brown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So when you ask a woman for a date, she has to tell you no?

    Paul D
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m on the fence with this. I have a friend in recruitment and he said the amount of candidates who applied but then don’t respond to emails, texts, calls etc. They won’t bother calling to withdraw or say they are running late. They also get candidates calling who have been declined but they having checked their spam folder. Worse are those who are told but then will call and speak to someone else and say “oh. I was told last week I made it to the next stage. Candidates can be awful to deal with.

    Beth Burgh
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've noticed that even companies that say they'll get back to me don't, even after I specially mention that I'd like to know one way or another. I can understand not wanting to give someone bad news, but just let me know so I can move on.

    Wang Zhuang
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Haha BP forgot to censor the hashtag :P :P :P

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    #15

    Recruiter Asked Me To Record A Video Response To 4 Questions. This Is My Reply

    Recruiter Asked Me To Record A Video Response To 4 Questions. This Is My Reply

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What is with this b******t of sending them a video? WTF do you say while recording it? I’m not auditioning for a movie role, ffs, I just want to work for your company. (I also don’t want them being assholes laughing at my video—-and I have seen, pre-Zoom/video/hell, pre-internet, HR making fun of people’s resumes and applications, so I know damn well they’d make fun of a video, so f**k them).

    Sean Sean
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's just "busy work" designed to give HR staff something to do and justify their continued employment.

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    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    what is this, tinder for applicants? you want to make sure they're attractive before you hire them? This is giving me some 'Audition' scary movie vibes.

    Joseph Kastorff
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pulled the ol' Uno Reverse card on them!

    Isaac Harvey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I might just send a link to a rickroll. I’d want to make sure they have at least some sense of humor.

    Mandy Delaforce (PC Girl)
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually turned down a job interview, because they asked me to record myself answering questions. I think I was quite rude, to be honest. Oh - and this was something like 5 - 7 years ago.

    Purple Gerbil
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once had to make a video for stage 2 of a job application only to be told I wasn’t being processed due to lack of experience…. which they would have known for my initial application!!! Grrrr!

    Bonnie Edwards
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have had 2 jobs - both government inbound call centre - where the entire interview process was done remotely. Ok. Both have been since COVID landed in our lives. I feel that the whole judgmental first impressions bull was side-stepped by this. Certainly, I was feeling very nervous videoing myself on the computer (partly because I had never used that system before/ partly job interviews are stressy anyway). But once I did the interview, and started the job, I was seeing the wide range of people in the job that I rarely saw anywhere else, due to the prejudices of the standard interviewer. Everyone from emos, the gregarious, the stay-at-home mothers in their first job in years, the walking skeletons, the ugly, the blimps (me), the ugly, the pretty, the self-involved, the physically handicapped. The only universal requirements, were a clear speaking voice, the ability/ willingness to help customers, and the drive to learn a new job. I think that's awesome.

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    The good news for those searching for a new job is that recently, hiring managers have had an increasingly difficult time filling roles. This means that applicants have more power than ever before, and they should take advantage of it. A month ago, Jane Thier published a story for Fortune titled “It’s a great time to be a job applicant—and the worst time to be a hiring manager” breaking down all of the reasons why candidates are now at an advantage over companies. Jane mentions that unemployment rates in the US are now the lowest that they’ve been since the beginning of the pandemic, and 84% of hiring managers report feeling burnt out, as candidates become more demanding in terms of perks and benefits. Not only are applicants asking for more, but they also have the power to tarnish a company’s reputation by discussing their interview experiences on social media and websites like Glassdoor. “As it gets easier and easier for individuals to find a new job,” Jane says. “The pressure on hiring managers only increases.”

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    #16

    What Usually Leads People To Find Another Job

    What Usually Leads People To Find Another Job

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    Justme
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A coworker was always calling out sick and I always had to drop my work to cover hers. When she finally quit, everyone was excited cause she just sucked. No one else grasped (until I said so) that this means I just lost MY job. Other staff had no idea that I had a different job and now I’d have to cover for her for months until a replacement was hired.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You could also say that now you have two jobs, only in the same company, and without being paid for two jobs. Or you could just do your own job and tell them you’re just too swamped to take on any extra responsibilities right now, so they just need to get someone in—-hell, hire a temp, ffs—-to cover her work.

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    OmMarol
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mexican here, in my first job, within my first year several people from our team that were the highest paid either quit or were fired. We were always told that there couldn't be more than X number of people with a "high salary" per team. Thus we would get a raise every year but it was minimal. But after 4 of these people left, no one in my team got a significant raise in their salaries, however all the responsibilities of the people that were gone were distributed among all of us. They did hire new people, with the minimum wage they could pay them, so we were always like "so where's the rest of the salary that you were paying to all those 4 people for the duties we're all now doing?" The salaries of the new employees combined didn't even make up the total of one of the persons that left.

    Beth Burgh
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've flat out told some work places that if someone leaves and I get to pick up their work, that I'm going to get paid more or I won't pick up the slack. Was then told I wasn't a "team player", my response was if I'm doing more work I'm going to get paid more.

    OmMarol
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is such a simple thing. It's like, you want someone to do the same stuff the other person used to do? Then you have to pay them the same. Either hire a new person with the same experience, or hire a new one and pay them less but don't expect the same results. Giving the responsibilities to someone else that already has their own duties without a compensation is just abusive.

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    Nightshade1972
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife used to work for a company where she, and all her coworkers, was very overworked. Every couple of years, the company would make a big show of hiring new coworkers. My wife and her coworkers would be relieved, because they thought the new coworkers would help lessen their workload. Not so fast--the company decided that hiring more workers just meant that they could increase their workload. So my wife and her coworkers were still just as overworked and underpaid (and unappreciated). She doesn't work there anymore...

    Mike Loux
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That happened several times to me at my last job. Was one of the many reasons I left. Talked to people who used to report to me (and are still there) and it's happening to them, too.

    Memere
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happened sooo many times at my last place of employment. I'm so glad I was able to retire & not have to deal with this cr@p anymore!

    #17

    A Company Found Me On Linkedin And Reached Out To Me, This Was My Response

    A Company Found Me On Linkedin And Reached Out To Me, This Was My Response

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    GirlFriday
    Community Member
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Love this. I hate these "send us a video" things. Why? I know why. This is solely so you can judge someone's appearance.

    Craig Reynolds
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly, It is also a great way to age discriminate and not get caught.

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    ᶜʰᵃᵒᵗⁱᶜ ˡᵉᵍᵃˡ
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He - just - said that in the nicest way possible . . . AWESOME!

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, wtf is it with the video b******t? No, it is not appropriate, because the candidate has zero idea what you’re looking for. If you gave them a list of questions, then asked them to take a video answering them, then maybe—-by an impossible stretch of the imagination—-I could see a reasoning for it. Even though I really don’t, it’s just the hiring manager/recruiter being too lazy to do an actual interview is what it is. I’m not auditioning for a role in your movie, I’m applying for a job in one of your company’s cubbyholes, ffs.

    Sue User
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My contract is almost up. I am dreading the job search but applying via videos brings it to a whole new level.

    Tim
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What was her reply?

    censor
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    what is this a new american thing? I haven't heard of this yet here in africa. If they try that s**t with me I will say "send me one explaining why I want to work for you."

    Kalevra
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dont think i will ever do this unles desperate.

    Cherriza
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I answered that way on an interview when a company recruited me and then asked me why I would be a good fit for the the company. I said um you contacted and recruited me.

    Mike Loux
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bingo. And, actually, I had a recruiter email today who made a video of themselves where they looked over my profile on LinkedIn, talked about several things in said profile, and equated them to the position they were trying to get me to apply for. THAT's how you do it.

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    #18

    Contrary To A Number Of Recruiters’ Popular Belief, I Do Very Much Care About The Money. Did You Think My Childhood Dream Was To Send An Email To Request Reimbursement Approval For Airport Parking To Pick Up Someone Snotty Visiting From The Head Office?

    Contrary To A Number Of Recruiters’ Popular Belief, I Do Very Much Care About The Money. Did You Think My Childhood Dream Was To Send An Email To Request Reimbursement Approval For Airport Parking To Pick Up Someone Snotty Visiting From The Head Office?

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So start listing salaries that pay them accordingly.

    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why would it be considered anything else? My bills make the decision for me it’s as simple as that.

    Bexx 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg I literally had a meeting this morning where someone brought up that we should “stop talking about our pay” and after seeing posts like this on BP for months, it felt dystopian af. (Also someone literally said “no one wants to work anymore” and I felt like I was in a meme.)

    Sue User
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an interview in another state. They flew me in, rented a car. I knew what the salary was but not the benefits ( health care especially). When I pressed for details, I was told that would be disclosed after hiring. Pass.

    Brian Brown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, I expect you to accept you work so the rich can get richer and if you get food inbetween consider yourself lucky

    Bonnie Edwards
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really hate it when an employer asks me if bonuses will motivate me to do a better job. If I wasn't already doing the job to the best of my ability, why am I still working there?

    Aela Klassen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i hate the whole "we dont want people who only work for money" mindset. i aint working because i like you or my mean coworkers. im working because i need to eat and i need somewhere to live.

    Mike Loux
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ping pong tables, free coffee, and sit-stand desks are all very nice, but they don't put food on the table or keep the lights on at home. If I didn't get paid to do what I do for a living, I wouldn't do it.

    Kaos
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who does that? As a hiring manager I actually discuss the salary as part of the initial call to ensure we are on the same page before doing the in person interview. I have never worked somewhere that had an issue with this.

    In the 2022 Greenhouse Candidate Experience Report, Greenhouse CEO Daniel Chait discusses this recent role reversal between companies and candidates. “Companies have realized their potentially unfair hiring practices—or even just simple sloppiness like ineffective interviewing or a habit of ghosting candidates—is coming back to bite them,” he says. Applicants are apparently also expecting the process to move very quickly, so interested hiring managers have to make offers fast before another company beats them to it. Meanwhile, in the competitive job market, hiring managers have to focus on retention as well. Every time an employee leaves their company for a better offer, there’s one more role they’re expected to fill. I certainly wouldn’t want the job of a hiring manager or recruiter, but it’s encouraging to know that the ball is in the applicants’ court sometimes.

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    #19

    Was I Being Impolite? Had This Exchange On Linkedin

    Was I Being Impolite? Had This Exchange On Linkedin

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    Elaine N
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Euhm… what? Where is the lack of politeness?

    Cody
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They didn't say "please"... /s

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    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have answered: Well since everything, for some reason, has already dropped on the floor, there is no reason to keep up the apearances. So I will try with some honesty instead. I am pretty confused about what just happened, but would like to make the best out of the situation, and will use it as learning experience. So please help me improve, so I can act better in the future. I would apriciate if you could answer the follwing questions: 1) The messages was answered in the same tone as the questions were asked, how can you consider that being impolite? 2)...and in case you do, does that mean that you yourself is impolite, and how do you feel about that? 3) Does it mean that you consider it OK, that you can act impolitely to others, but no one else can talk to you in the same tone? 4) It is normally considered to be a wise move to match the level of formality of language of that the person you are talking with uses, so what exactly did you expect me to say?

    Bird SharkRawr
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not so subtle code for I want someone to kiss my a*s

    Jean H.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The person that posted this was TELLING the potential employer to tell them more about the position instead of ASKING. Example: Yes I am. Please tell me more about the role you're looking to fill.

    Lem Johnson
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How delicate an ego do you have to have to give that much of a s**t about the word "please"? The OP responded in the exact same tone the recruiter was using.

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    Kimikazi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ego problem is what I see here.

    Kalevra
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    oh my god f**k this recruiter

    Lea S.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was taught the way to respond this way. Oh Please Pretty Please looks ridiculous.

    Vorknkx
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I see nothing impolite here. They asked for more info, which is the most natural thing to do.

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    #20

    For The Memes, Because We’ve All Been There

    For The Memes, Because We’ve All Been There

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    Torsten
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You forgot these stupid scroll wheels to enter a year - and the overall poorly designed website.

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Scroll wheels need to die. I can type "1965" faster than I can scroll down to it. I can type "MA" faster than I can scroll all the way down to "Massachusetts." Even if it's a question to which there are limited answers (e.g., yes or no), check boxes are faster than scroll wheels. Just murder them already.

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    Upstaged75
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is probably one of the most aggravating things on planet Earth! There have been times I decided I didn't really want the job anyway when companies do this.

    censor
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yep. Make me jump through hoops I am gone. I will email you my CV and you will email me a reply.

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    Leah Jay
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just write 'Please see resume.'

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Drives me crazy. To be fair, there are so many different resume formats and horribly designed resumes out there. If the resume is well made, it should be easy to copy/paste entire sections. But choose one or the other; either have me fill in fields or ask for a resume, not both.

    Pheebs
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Very true. Plus a lot of people don’t have PDF copies, which can result in a file being badly formatted on another person’s system. Honestly, I’d just prefer to copy and paste in to boxes. I’ve had 3 different formats (recommended by books, recruiters, etc), and someone complained about every single one.

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    John L
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Heh, I have seen this. Maddening...

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Me too. And I have tried to redo my resume to every format that recruiters advise, and it STILL doesn’t work. If a company doesn’t have enough people in HR to f*****g READ resumes, then they should HIRE some, because they’re losing too many excellent candidates to their f****d up metrics. A computer program is NOT a good judge of potential employees, a Human Being is.

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    censor
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Recruiters etc must just look at linkedin and base it on that. This thing of duplicating your CV on linkeding, on 200 recruitment sites, then on every corporate website HR division application form, is tedious. Tell them to f**k off and read your linkedin.

    censor
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I fill in the blank lines in the form with "see attached resume" and "not applicable"

    Mimi M
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh hell no. Quick Apply only. I don't have an hour of time to give you.

    Wang Zhuang
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I absolutely HATE it when job sites do that. HATE it

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    #21

    Hiring Managers: You No Longer Have The Luxury Of "Thinking" About Whether You Want To Offer A Candidate A Job Or Not

    Hiring Managers: You No Longer Have The Luxury Of "Thinking" About Whether You Want To Offer A Candidate A Job Or Not

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    John L
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, that would require this foriegn concept called being proactive and adaptable. Those are things for the plebs, not the establishment.

    Sue User
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't add me on LinkedIn. Neither the company I am considering nor the recruiter. Stop that

    Memere
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I totally agree with that - LinkedIn has become the facebook of the business world!

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    Yvette Desmarais
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After three decades of working, I'm so glad things have changed in favor of workers.

    Martha Higgins
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Make your decision quickly, not quick. My eighth grade English teacher had writing on her blackboard in all the years she taught which said, "Be, am, is, are, never take an object." The first day in her class, she would tell students to learn this and never make the mistake again. I doubt any of us have.

    Brian Brown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Haha. Workers are ahead of men Guys still havnt figured out how

    Bonnie Edwards
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Early 2019, I interviewed for 2 different jobs at the same time. Both were call centres set up to deal with the major increase in calls due to COVID landing. One had an interview process that was done in person, 3 interviews, and took weeks. The second took 4 days, and was done remotely via Microsoft Teams, and phone interviews. I was offered the 2nd job, and had already been working there for 2 weeks, when the 1st one called to ask if I was still interested. Between those 2 companies, plus one other, every person interested in call centre work was snapped up for 8 months plus. The attrition rate was immense when people started going back to their old jobs. We started getting school leavers who had no idea.

    Mandy Delaforce (PC Girl)
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this is what happened with me just this month. it was the strangest interview process I have ever been though, and they didn't even haggle money.

    Billy Allen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually this is not the case for older workers over 45. Age discrimination is so heavy in the job market right now and it's not going away because there's no one out there tackling it.

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    Pay transparency is one of the most important factors for many job applicants today. Just look at this list and all of the screenshots featuring hiring managers beating around the bush when it comes to salary ranges or explicitly telling applicants they can’t disclose that information. More progressive companies, however, are advertising high salaries to ensure they can attract talent. Erica Thomas, a technical recruiter in Florida, told CNBC that hiring for on-site positions is particularly challenging, but it can be done at the right price. “If I say, ‘you’ll be on-site and the range is $118,000 to $130,000,’ now we’re talking,” she says. “You have 4 to 8 seconds to catch a candidate’s attention. People want to know the bottom line: how much they’ll be paid.”

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    #22

    Dodged

    Dodged

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    Mama Penguin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Asking a candidate for a desired salary is a twisted mind game. Just tell candidates what you're willing to pay and negotiate from there.

    Adam Belaire
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My desired salary starts $2.5M a year but we can negotiate.

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    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just tell them 10k over what you actually want then “negotiate” to what you wanted.

    Wang Zhuang
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just CLAP tell CLAP me CLAP how CLAP much CLAP you're CLAP paying

    Mike Loux
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What kind of mind-f**k is that?

    ohjojo (you/your's)
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I won't play your silly games. Lord knows what games you'll play once I get hired

    Tim
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What was her reply?

    Martha Higgins
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You resounded to"? Perhaps the writer's position at that company should be filled by someone with a clear grasp of English vocabulary and grammar.

    Mimi M
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get emails and texts from recruiters. I told the last one 'please include the salary in every job you send me, first message'.

    Bonnie Edwards
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always try to find out the average market rate before going into a job interview. I am also very aware of how much money I need to earn per year. I will never go less than that. The rent hikes in the last 2 years have been mind-boggling.

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    #23

    Facing These Days!

    Facing These Days!

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    Mama Penguin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Damn. My parents should have trained me for this job when they were thinking to have a baby.

    Mimi M
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ageism and 'overqualification' is def a thing.

    Beth Burgh
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw a job posting for a mail room clerk where they wanted a bachelor's degree. For a mail room job.... 🙄

    Adrienne Mcginley
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In utero job training. The next big thing.

    Cat Lacemaker
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But it only gives you an extra 9 months of experience! ; )

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    Catherine Binder
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is age discrimination. This is illegal. It happens but few companies are this forthcoming about it. I'm confused about where age would be listed as a requirement.

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one isn't about ageism, it's about unrealistic/impossible requirements.

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    #24

    There Is A Pandemic Of Bad Managers

    There Is A Pandemic Of Bad Managers

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    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Middle management is pointless..

    Brian Brown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well management is a personality thing. They dont hire based on who is better

    Mimi M
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because when hiring managers (especially internally), it's often more a matter of alliances than talents.

    Bonuses are also getting better and better for applicants in the US. According to a 2021 Robert Half survey, 48% of companies are providing signing bonuses, 43% are offering more paid time off, and 40% are offering better job titles “to entice prospective hires”. Hiring managers have also resorted to casting a wider net when it comes to applicants because it has become so difficult to fill roles quickly with talent close to home. One woman, Lauren Rackley, told CNBC that she was given a $19,500 relocation bonus from her new job for moving from North Carolina to Florida. She noted that it was far more than any other relocation bonus she had been offered in the past. 

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    #25

    Recruiter Asked Me To Send In A Report Of My Total Earnings In 2020/2021 As Part Of The Negotiation Process

    Recruiter Asked Me To Send In A Report Of My Total Earnings In 2020/2021 As Part Of The Negotiation Process

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    Bexx 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Smart and very professional! (But you can still hear the mic drop at the end hehe)

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is important. A recent college graduate may have worked in a car wash or waited tables while in school. Their last salary would’ve been much much lower than the average starting salary for the job they’re applying for—-in the industry their major is part of (compare a car wash employee’s salary to that of an entry level software engineer, and you’ll see what I mean). If a company is going to base their salary offer on an applicant’s last pay rate, a recent graduate will be paid way under the average, and that just not fair. Which is why it is illegal to require or even ask about it.

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    these recruiters are starting to sound more and more like scammers. I would never give them that info. What is the purpose or needing it? To be able to know how much you can take advantage of someone? 'Oh this job pays 100K a year but he's only been making 60K so far so we only need to offer 65K to make it attractive.' It should be illegal to ask for this info the same as it's illegal to ask for medical info.

    James016
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please provide the statute that governs this legal right

    Cactus McCoy
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For understanding: "it's the legal right of companies to show proof" is meant to be "...legal right to be shown..."?

    Memere
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I noticed that too. Huge red flag when the recruiter not only illegally demands private info, but can't even use correct grammar!

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    Cassie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That was a polite and professional response. I would have been tempted to respond, "I have no interest in working for liars."

    John L
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually had a recruiter ask this of me. She was actually the girl friend of a friend, who recommended me. Never had this happen before (nor since) and refused. Actually, I just didn't comply and ghosted the recruiter.

    Stannous Flouride
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A company has the legal right to SHOW proof, not to ask for it.

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    #26

    Hitting Close To Home, Is It?

    Hitting Close To Home, Is It?

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    Something
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the salary were really so competitive, they wouldn't be scared to say what it is on the job posting.

    #27

    Some Recruiters Are So Lazy

    Some Recruiters Are So Lazy

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    Patrick Farnan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should of taken the Job, you would be in charge of managing yourself plus get two Salaries

    Dav Carro-Ripalda
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can you accept it and get both salaries?

    Mike Loux
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once a month I get a message from a recruiter that is clearly mail-merged. How do I know? Because I get an identical message 1 millisecond later intended for someone else. Or I get only one message, but for someone else. Whoops.

    Richy Rich
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everything you fill out on those is used to shop for more employers to use their services. I set up several, calling former employers to see if they called to validate my working there. Each one called and never mentioned me but asked if they were recruiting new hires and could they send some work to their temp agencies. Some of these were from employers a thousand miles from where I was applying.

    As companies become more desperate to hire and hold onto skilled talent, job applicants are finally being presented with attractive offers. Hopefully this combined with candidates holding companies accountable in communities like the Recruitment Hell subreddit will lead to permanently improved hiring practices. Enjoy the rest of this list of ridiculous messages and expectations from recruiters, and don’t forget to upvote the pics you find most appalling. Then let us know in the comments if you’ve ever had a terrible encounter with a recruiter!

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    #28

    Why Even Ask?

    Why Even Ask?

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    Trophy Husband
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've tried that, some systems take it and others have a minimum to stop you from doing that. Them I try $1,000,000 and see if it takes that. Next I try writing N/A. If all else falls, I put in a random number like $46,876.34 so it's clear that I'm f*****g with them like they f****d with me!

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I put “Negotiable after offer”, and they can sit on it and rotate if they don’t like it.

    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wtf! I would put 0 and tell them 50k in person but your site had a weird glitch and wouldn’t let me type it.

    Wang Zhuang
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, I don't mind this. Putting in a high salary to expose their actual maximum offering is a good thing. I'll remember this if I come across it

    DennyS (denzoren)
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once went to an interview and had to fill out a form before I went in which had "Desired Salary" on it. So I put a figure I thought was fair. When I gave it to the receptionist she said "I have to send this in before you but they wouldn't want to hire you if you keep that figure, they'll want it to be $xxx" and I was like "huh?" I adjusted it and got interviewed. Didn't get hired because they thought I lived too far away. Probably for the best.

    Brian Brown
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wtf cant anyone be paid on percent?

    Margaret Martin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least it lets you know their maximum payout.

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    #29

    Why So Surprised?

    Why So Surprised?

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why you leaving? Didn’t we treat you shitty enough?

    #30

    "Workforce Development And Salary Consultant" Screwing Her Clients

    "Workforce Development And Salary Consultant" Screwing Her Clients

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    Best behave....
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dunno, I see the lesson as don't touch this scammer with a barge pole......

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. For the story, this woman got a real sh*tstorm under her post...

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    Syrah
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A better lesson would be to show the f*****g salary range on the advert, so we all know where we stand from the start!!!!!!!

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the entire reason they don't show salary range. So the candidate can request far lower than they were going to offer.

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    Tamsin Far
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Currently trying to teach our decision makers this is how we lose really good people: once they have worked in our team for a while and see how much other people with less skills make they will rightfully demand more. Unfortunately it is really, really difficult to raise wages at our company fast enough, once they have been employed, even if they change position - so they will just.. leave. Because they now know their worth and because they are good they will find a new job fast.

    Pamda Panda
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seems like she doesn't have the bandwidth to do her job...

    kath morgan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Congrats, you’re a piece of shït.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How do people like this sleep at night? I hope Karma is an extra special b***h to them when the time comes for them to pay for their f*****g cruelty.

    Brian Michael
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah that's a great lesson too right? Ask for the moon and don't get the job bc your request was too high. Stop playing games and post the salary.

    Barbara Kayton
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about this: offer the candidate a large, mind-blowing salary. I'm not being sarcastic. People need to pay bills, and live. And if you treat them really well, they might actually stay at your company and do phenomenal things for your business.

    Lilla Ontherun
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well I asked for the same amount of salary as I got from the place I really wanted to leave (had 2 AH bosses), they gave me much more, without asking. I was so desperate to leave, maybe she too.

    OmMarol
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate this so much. How much I want? 5 million per hour. Just tell the damn salary, YOU are the ones offering the job

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    #31

    As A Stb Graduate, This Hits Hard!

    As A Stb Graduate, This Hits Hard!

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that’s what it used to mean, back when your parents started out—-with just a high school diploma for the same job.

    Ansi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *surprised pikachu face*

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    #32

    I Hope Y’all Find It As Hilarious As I Do

    I Hope Y’all Find It As Hilarious As I Do

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    CelticElff
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should be way higher

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Me: *uploads CV as requested* Also me: *fills in application by copying and pasting "see uploaded CV" 100 times*

    #33

    How Do You Tell The Difference Between A Bot On Linked And A Job Offer From A Real Person?

    How Do You Tell The Difference Between A Bot On Linked And A Job Offer From A Real Person?

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    Meme Lord
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One thing I don't know why, it doesn't even matter how hard I try, keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme to explain in due time, all I know, time is a valuable thing watch it fly by as the pendulum swings, watch it count down to the end of the day the clock ticks time away, it's so unreal, I didn't look about below watch the time go right out the window trying to hold on but you didn't even know I wasted it all just to watch you gooooo, I kept everything inside and even though I tried, it all feel apart, what it meant to be will eventually be a memory of a time when I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FARRR, BUT IN THE END IT DOESENT EVEN MATTER, I HAD TO FALL TO LOSE IT ALL, BUT IN THR END IT DOESENT EVEN MATER!!!!!

    Mama Penguin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Made me laugh and cry at the same time.

    #34

    Simple Life Hack

    Simple Life Hack

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    Mohsie Supposie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There were four in a bed and the little one said, "Roll over! Roll over!" So they all rolled over and one fell off!.... There were three in a bed and the little one said ............................

    Blurryface
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “I don’t wanna work anymore!”

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    Ricardo Ferreira
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    6 1/3 - See your best employees going away 6 2/3 - Make a Surprised Pikachu Face

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    6 5/6 - Throw an employee appreciation pizza party but only dole out one thin slice of pizza, or buy doughnuts but not enough for everybody, and tell people you’re going to doc 15 minutes from their time for it, whether they attend/eat any of it or not. Then say “Look at how much I appreciate your efforts!” (Although a raise, and at least getting a couple temps if not a permanent employee to cover the extra work, would be better.)

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    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. So clever.. until your the one left manning the ship.

    #35

    Entirely Self Inflicted

    Entirely Self Inflicted

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You forgot: This is actually an unpaid internship, for which you will go through our ten step b******t hiring process. Once the internship is completed (a time period of our choosing, so we can drag it out as long as we want), you might be taken on permanently (through not really, nothing’s permanent), at our entry level pay, which is only marginally more than you made for the internship. The unpaid internship. We also have a trial period of one year after that “permanent” hire, during which time we can fire you for no reason, like just because someone in our clique doesn’t really like you. So f**k you, and please submit your application.

    Anonymous Female
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are places around here wanting a Bachelor's degree with starting wages at 23k. Freaking ridiculous.

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    #36

    This Company Could've Spent $2,500 To Keep Their "Top Performer." Instead, She Gets A $12,000 Pay Raise Elsewhere. Good For Her!

    This Company Could've Spent $2,500 To Keep Their "Top Performer." Instead, She Gets A $12,000 Pay Raise Elsewhere. Good For Her!

    terriblehashtags Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You eliminate burnout AND turnover. You end up with employees who will go above and beyond to give you their best work. This can lead you to having an employee from entry level to retirement. You know, the way it used to be.

    Bexx 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pay me $__ an hour, and you’ll get work worthy of $__ an hour. Fill in the blanks.

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    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great for her! I'll be honest, I was expecting that the interview & pay rise was for the empty position and she just went through a different HR person who didn't connect the two.

    Adam Zad
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the questions I always ask of the person to whom I'll be reporting is "As a leader, do you feel it is better to be loved or feared?" If they say "feared," I walk. Love is a FAR greater motivator than fear.

    #37

    Sure Thing... You First

    Sure Thing... You First

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    PVR
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely love it.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You really want to hear my reply to your email? Really? You have no idea what you’re letting yourself in for.

    Adam Zad
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    TS;CR. Too small; couldn't read.

    #38

    CEO Takes A Candidate’s Joke Wrong, Gives Speech About It Online

    CEO Takes A Candidate’s Joke Wrong, Gives Speech About It Online

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    troufaki13
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would really love to know her reasoning for this

    Virgil Blue
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people confuse assertiveness with being rude and aggressive. Could have been that.

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    MiriPanda
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get her joke either, can someone explain? 🤔

    Justme
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “What are you wearing? You look poor.”

    Kevin Humble
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe this came after the CEO told them the hourly rate.

    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is it at all possible that he did look like a less talented version of Adam Levine?

    #39

    A Dev Job Application Gone...slow

    A Dev Job Application Gone...slow

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    Memere
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would refuse to even consider working for this "greyp" company just based on this goofy rejection letter. Altho I'd have to ask what they've been ingesting because it's gotta be some good stuff!

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    #40

    I Don’t Care How Badly I Need More Clients. This Felt So Damn Good

    I Don’t Care How Badly I Need More Clients. This Felt So Damn Good

    mynameissam14 Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It should be illegal to steal someone’s time and effort because you’re too f*****g cheap to hire them. Please applicants, start suing them for theft of your intellectual property, or whatever legally applies to what they stole. Hell, set a legal precedent if you have to.

    #41

    Unsolicited Job Offers Be Like

    Unsolicited Job Offers Be Like

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    John L
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let me guess, company looking for a developer to do free work?

    Pittsburgh rare
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't want to work for someone who uses the urinal right next to you

    #42

    My Reaction After A Company Replies After 2 Months

    My Reaction After A Company Replies After 2 Months

    n1h4n Report

    Spiral Agent
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happens to me so often. I know they never even looked at this point.

    #43

    I've Never Made A Job Listing On Indeed, But I Doubt It's That Difficult

    I've Never Made A Job Listing On Indeed, But I Doubt It's That Difficult

    FRUIT_FETISH Report

    Khavrinen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whoever wrote this listing didn't remotely know what they were doing.

    Bexx 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly Indeed is a nightmare. It’s not *that* difficult (but can be weirdly hard to do certain things) and they beg for money with every click, takes 5 mins of saying NO just to post an ad. I do the hiring ads for my company and I cannot stand Indeed. I have so much empathy and love for the people who have to use it :( (also, I’ve only ever gotten one resume off there in 3 years - different markets’ mileage may vary, my hometown seems to prefer Facebook Jobs)

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    Kyle D
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What do I do if I want to dig another ditch around a castle - Remoat.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, which is it? Or is it that f*****g “temporarily remote” s**t, meaning you have to live close enough to commute—-for a job listed as remote, just to lead you ina Dan f**k with you.

    Sue User
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am sick at finding "remote" jobs where you must 1) be in the office 3 days week or 2) must be within x miles of the office. That's not remote, that's a job that let's you work from home a bit.

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    #44

    Not Sure If This Belongs Here But I Laughed

    Not Sure If This Belongs Here But I Laughed

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    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Becomming a CEO is actually really easy. Just start a one man company and assign yourself to the role of CEO. Done deal.

    Bexx 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m the CEO of Bexxx Industries. We make pizzas and tacos solely for one very important client (me).

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Follow that dream son. Follow that dream. Just be sure your company’s hiring practices aren’t random s**t as well.

    #45

    How Can You Hire Someone Without Telling Them The Salary?

    How Can You Hire Someone Without Telling Them The Salary?

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    Raven Sheridan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where's the, "You're delusional and withdraw my application", button? 🤔

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even at the job offer? So I’d have to wait two weeks for my first paycheck to see how much I’m making? F**k no. Hard pass.

    Sue User
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Due to personal policy, I cannot tell you my skills during the interview process.

    Khavrinen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Thank you for letting me know" -- that this isn't a company I want to work for.

    #46

    Take Notes

    Take Notes

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    John L
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Number 3 is maddening. I have top level certifications that cancel out lower certifications. Yet people evaluating resumes' for IT positions, have no clue about what the certifications mean. So they want people with the high and low level cert, even though the high level cert supersedes the lower level one. So in order to be considered for "all" the jobs, I need to waste my time getting the lower level cert, so that I am not weeded out. Never bothered, but it is funny how employers are losing candidates this way.

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So much this and I'd argue that's good practice for every field. HR often just looks up common certs for the field and throws them in, not understanding anything about them. My current position, during the first interview HR was candid that they didn't even really know how to write the description out (it showed) & what to put in it.

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is all such basic stuff, I can’t believe we’re at a point where we have to ask for it—-and have employers look at us like we’re ungrateful for their shitty management and pay, and are asking for the f*****g world. These. Are. So. Basic. They. Should. Just. Happen. Without. Us. Having. To. Ask!!! FFS!!!

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    #11: "Everything's working, why are we even paying you?!"____ "This thing is broken, why are we even paying you?!"

    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So in other words, pay a livable fair wage for the skills/level, promote a work life balance and mean it and keep your word. Why is that so hard?

    PVR
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES. Excellent list.

    #47

    Unicorns

    Unicorns

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    Khavrinen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But if you don't have several candidates to compete against each other, how can you expect to force one of them to accept your low-ball salary offer?

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *they were a Unicorn. Someone else already riding them* YEAH!

    Catie Marie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is unicorn being used in these posts?

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone who fits all of the ridiculous criteria you set and fits the actual role perfectly.

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    #48

    Pretty Cool Of Nordstrom To Add This To Their Job Listing. This Should Encourage You To Apply For Positions That You Don't Think You're A 100% Match For

    Pretty Cool Of Nordstrom To Add This To Their Job Listing. This Should Encourage You To Apply For Positions That You Don't Think You're A 100% Match For

    BaconTesting Report

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shotgun approach. You're going to get ghosted by 90% anyway, might as well shoot your shot.

    BravePanda
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a former Nordstrom employee, it was my favorite corporate employer that I ever had. I strongly considered leaving my economist career to work retail for Nordstrom. I was treated exceptionally well.

    The Deez
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the cover letter that I attached to my resume for my current (awesome!) job as a medical receptionist, I said, "I realized that I don't have the 1 year of experience that you prefer for the job. However, I do have three years of customer service experience, as well as experience as a supervisor, both of which I think would translate well into your environment." Long story short, the doc thought this was interesting, so he interviewed me, and I got the job! (Yes, I'm so old that I still attached a cover letter to all the resumes I submitted when I was looking for a new job!)

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kinda look like they’re only encouraging men to apply, even if they have zero idea what working in home and fashion retail entails.

    #49

    Same Bro

    Same Bro

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    nooneimportant
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cover letters aren't needed it's just more words that the hiring manager will not read

    Vorknkx
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had one cover letter while jobhunting, I just copy-pasted it and changed the relevant details :D

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously. Who has the time to write fresh cover letters tailored to every individual company? Especially when it takes hours to get an online application finished, and you’re trying to send out as many as you can. Finding a job is a f*****g full time job in itself.

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    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel the same except with 'personal' references. I don't understand why this is asked for. Look at my work references. Most of my friends exist online and I'm not going to get their phone numbers and I feel super uncomfortable with this question. Not going to lie, when they ask for this I usually lie and just make up people and put in numbers that I know are disconnected.

    #50

    Finally A Job Advert With Realistic Expectations

    Finally A Job Advert With Realistic Expectations

    casz146 Report

    Ansi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Feels like the non toxic workplace I've been looking for!!!

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least this is honest, although I'm not how the current staff feels about the sign.

    #51

    The F**k? At Least They’re Telling You Up Front But

    The F**k? At Least They’re Telling You Up Front But

    MatterAcrobatic1999 Report

    Vorknkx
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a red flag the size of Canada!

    Libstak
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disgusting entitled expectations.

    Mohsie Supposie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Forgot to add... Will work for FREE!

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WTF does “high personal risk mean, anyway in this particular job? Am I going to have to jump out of an airplane without a parachute to attend a meeting (with other survivors), or some such b******t? And, NO! I do NOT put myself third, a*****e.

    Michele Brady
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And yet, still no mention of pay rates

    Beth L
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reads like they asked the outgoing employee to post their position before they left

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are you sure you want honnest? Honest means that the person will call out all your dirty little sugarcoating s**t manouvers, and point it out when you are being delutional and have unrealistic expectations, e.g. when you want superhuman abilities, and some unhealthy level of commitment.

    Rider
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Job title is Please. Provide Legal Exculpation and Sign Everything.

    Sue User
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had a company that wanted me to sign legal forms promising neither me nor any of my agents ( lawyers) would disparage the company or anyone in the company. And bring these to the interview.

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    #52

    Worst Onboarding/Background Check Experience Ever! Not Only Did I Send Her The References Prior But She Than Needed More! This Is Ridiculous! Here’s What I Told Her Below!

    Worst Onboarding/Background Check Experience Ever! Not Only Did I Send Her The References Prior But She Than Needed More! This Is Ridiculous! Here’s What I Told Her Below!

    ChuckTaylorJr Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Illegal to ask for salary information like that.

    Drea Benoit
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would never provide that to a potential employer. It’s none of their business

    James016
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What are W2 and W2s transcripts?

    Swanson Swanson
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I process payroll and issue W2s to employees at end of year (US income statement for tax purposes.) There is no such thing as a W2 "transcript." Also, no one has the right to ask to see your W2 except your tax return preparer and the IRS. This is some BS the co is trying to pull on people to figure out how little they can pay them. Ugh - such reprehensible tactics.

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    #53

    College Senior With A Business Major In NYC… Recently Awarded With A Distinction As Top 5% In The Class

    College Senior With A Business Major In NYC… Recently Awarded With A Distinction As Top 5% In The Class

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    Vorknkx
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Ghosted" was my most common outcome as well, 10 years ago...

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I may be an older applicant, but my Masters is fresh, as of 2019. I’ve had no luck finding anything even close to my field.

    #54

    Applying For A Job

    Applying For A Job

    KareemPye Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then never getting a reply. Well, until months later after you found something else. Then it’s a boilerplate rejection email.

    Sue User
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    U am still getting job posting in my email from a company i applied at two years ago. I caanot remember the password to the account to cancel properly.

    #55

    Entry Level Salary For A Role Requiring 10yrs Experience

    Entry Level Salary For A Role Requiring 10yrs Experience

    Bearded_Gussie Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And now the job’s probably no longer taking applications, since the recruiter dicked around so f*****g long.

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    they are basically exploiting the sunken cost effect. Once you have put a lot of effort into something, you will have a hard time letting it go, and hence you will be able to make a sakrifice to prevent all the effort you have previously put into the project from having been a vaste of time. However sometimes it is just better to cut your loses, and move on instead of accepting such a dickish move which will end up costing you a lot more down the line.

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    #56

    “It Shouldn’t Affect Your Schedule” …excuse Me?

    “It Shouldn’t Affect Your Schedule” …excuse Me?

    imeanidc Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. In class. To learn skills for the job. That you won’t even try to talk to me about, at a time when I’m available, even though you first said I can set my own time for the appointment.

    Bexx 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it’s only 10 mins then it shouldn’t affect the interviewer’s schedule to do it at 2:30 😝

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    TomBeingPushed
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Please let us know if this time fits to your schedule, so we can let you know that we will insist on the time anyways."

    PVR
    Community Member
    3 years ago

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    I imagine instructors would be more flexible than this recruiter and would happily let you miss part of your class so you can attend the interview.

    bv7hearts
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not the point. The recruiter is assuming the candidate will drop everything for a ten minute Zoom call. Doesn't bode well for the work environment.

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    #57

    Should Money Not Be The Top Priority?

    Should Money Not Be The Top Priority?

    Procrastinator_MD Report

    Anna Banana
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I present candidates even if they are outside of our budget" doesn't seem like a quality of a good recruiter... Sounds like they are just wasting everybody's time.

    Bexx 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah I definitely wouldn’t hire that recruiter :/ although it sounds nice to get paid to waste time all day

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In order to not waste both of our time, just give me a reasonable ballpark range, so I can decide if it’s even worth MY valuable time to continue or not. Just. Answer. The. Damn. Question. Already. OK?

    Frank Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is actually good advice. The recommendation not to disclose your expectations is outdated. Do some market research and know your worth. No companies are going to be hiring at wildly over market value. I asked for $75k at my last job and they accepted because I brought more to the role than they expected. Found out later the budget was $50-55k. Third party recruiters get paid commission based on your salary so they'll fight for a high salary for you too.

    Yvette Desmarais
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I do give you my range, don't low ball me. You asked, I provided. If you don't meet my expectations we are done.

    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There’s always a set pay stop jerking people around.

    kath morgan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only reason not to disclose is that you’re hoping for low offers. Get knotted.

    Zsolt Hegedűs
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They're always dodging this question

    #58

    Anyone Else Read This As, “Must Be Willing To Take Abuse”?

    Anyone Else Read This As, “Must Be Willing To Take Abuse”?

    VonDealenstein Report

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "looking for a slave the micro manager can take responsible for everything"

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why bother even trying to put up with the micro a ing b******t for a lousy 6 month job?

    ᶜʰᵃᵒᵗⁱᶜ ˡᵉᵍᵃˡ
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yes garmadon you are a micro manager I can tolerate you because I'm SPECIAL (Lego movie reference)

    CelticElff
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    f**k micro-managers.

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It would be easier to fire the micro-manager.

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Robust" is the new buzz word. It is huge red flag. It is just a reframing of "we know we are dickheads, but instead of working on it, we put all the effort on you, and expect you to not break under the load like most humans would do. If you see it on a job proposal, let it go straight to the bin, and spend your time wiser. You might end up getting the job, but know that it comes with a lot of unreasonable requirements, abuse and exploitation, and that you will most likely break down in such an enviroment.

    Cat Palmer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least they're not springing it as a nasty surprise on your first day.

    #59

    Fast Paced Environment And Dynamic Teams!

    Fast Paced Environment And Dynamic Teams!

    ddh85 Report

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Salary?.... naaaaaa just kidding...

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    #60

    Was This A Mistake? Sick Of Dehumanizing And Humiliating One-Way Interviews

    Was This A Mistake? Sick Of Dehumanizing And Humiliating One-Way Interviews

    OptimisticCerealBowl Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While I don’t mind an initial questionnaire, after that I would like to actually speak to a person. NOT record a video and send it in, but actually speak to a live human being.

    CelticElff
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I adore this person for including their feedback!

    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What’s a one way interview? Like your on video but the other person isnt?

    #61

    Heh

    Heh

    askawaylmk Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you’re probably not going t9 train me, but leave me hanging out there to figure it all out myself. That’s a huge load of effort on my part, so I should be compensated accordingly.

    #62

    Yet Another Lie About Not Knowing The Salary. No Company Interviews Without Knowing What They Can Afford

    Yet Another Lie About Not Knowing The Salary. No Company Interviews Without Knowing What They Can Afford

    votedog Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t want “should be competitive”, I want a number.

    #63

    Finally A Company That Just Gets Me

    Finally A Company That Just Gets Me

    JPOW_Used_No_Lube Report

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *worked just an hour* - *get one year salary* - *leave*

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *work one week, collect $2.4 million, retire*

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even when the6 do post a salary they f**k it up—-and don’t even proofread before posting the ad. THIS is the intellect of the people who require YOU to jump through hoops perfectly or be dropped from consideration.

    CelticElff
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to read this three times before I caught that the salary was listed PER HOUR. For $60K *per hour* I would dress in drag and do the hula

    Wilf
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Only 19 billion a year. That's not great salary for a CEO in America.

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    #64

    Counteroffers 101

    Counteroffers 101

    ReklessS0ul Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reeks of desperation to not lose face by f*****g up and losing a good employee because you’re a stingy m**********r.

    #65

    Why Are These People So Picky? Who're They Hoping To Find?

    Why Are These People So Picky? Who're They Hoping To Find?

    Kyouma118 Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A sure way to have an unhappy life is to expect perfection from other people. You will never get it, so quit being so choosy. You might just find an unexpected perfection, or another form of perfection in an unexpected package.

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perfect employees are not found, they are made. Each company is different, has their own culture, and does things in their own way. You must therefore expect to spend some resources on a run in period, where you form a candidate in a molding phase called training. Thinking that you can skip this step, just by looking for the perfect candidate where everything will just click into place on day one, is naive. It would be nice if it was possible, but it is nothing but wishful thinking, and even if you succeed in it, chances are that the hirering process would have been so long that the task not being done by the person missin in the vacant spot and the effort put into the recruiting process by no mean justifies it.

    Michael Berger
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Workplaces have to advertise jobs to be eligible to grossly under pay someone on a hb-1

    James016
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A colleague and I recently interviewed someone over Teams who at one point in the interview got up and walked off. Came back a few mins later. When I asked where he went, he walked off again. We stopped the interview there and then. We have just filled the position as the successful candidate was excellent, but it took a long as the candidates we had couldn't answer the technical questions we were asking. This was for an IT role.

    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean that’s fair. If someone is just rude and not used to acting professional can’t blame anyone but themselves. I had a candidate hang up on me mid sentence. Entirely unnecessary. Just say you are no longer interested so there’s no confusion. But if someone has the right character/energy but lacks experience I’d still hire them if I think they would fit well in the role.

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    #66

    No Country For Young Men

    No Country For Young Men

    Dizzy_Masterpiece_45 Report

    Spiral Agent
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've gotten this answer once before. I was desperate and said it just means I can do the job with ease. Isn't that what you want? The answer was no. They wanted someone that would struggle under their thumb.

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    aka someone who won't question stupid decisions, someone that they can throw under the bus, and someone who won't want to push for raises/promotions for awhile.

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    nooneimportant
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    in other words: "you're smarter then me and i am a $hi++y person"

    #67

    This Is Illegally Relevant To My Ability To Do The Job

    This Is Illegally Relevant To My Ability To Do The Job

    AdRepresentative2512 Report

    TKA
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I couldn’t figure out what was wrong with this until I re-read it a few times. No thanks, you don’t need to know one thing about my parents!

    CelticElff
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ESPECIALLY if I'm a grown-@$$ adult!

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only time I had to answer questions like that was when I worked for TSA and had to have an in depth FBI background check done for my federal security clearance.

    Swanson Swanson
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Question 401. Provide the results of your last colorectal exam.

    Panda Who Mumbles, Constantly
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are they hiring my parents too? If not, why the f*ck do they need this information?

    FreshGanesh
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Prospective employers cannot ask about family and marital status. Within this, they cannot ask about the status of any family member, including education. They CAN ask if you have family employed at their company and that is the only instance family can come up in conversation. - The metrics being used by recruiters can be a little sneaky. The algorithms can figure out quite a bit. One of the reasons they would ask for parents education is to determine the socio-economic background candidate was raised in. Another is race. Both of which cannot be considerations for employment.

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    #68

    Good One

    Good One

    bomdiamundo Report

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I see what you are trying to do here.... ^^

    PVR
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is doable if you use time travel.

    #69

    Absolutely Agree

    Absolutely Agree

    OvernightSagittarius Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They need to keep their jobs viable so make up fake ways to make themselves appear indispensable, usually when anyone with half a brain and a modicum of common sense and efficiency could do it.

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A common case of Psydoywork. You have to prove that you actually work, when it is not really needed, so you invent all sorts of task that you sell as really important, when in fact they are not, you are just procrastinating an that gives you a warm fuzzy feeling of being useful and productive. Many of the test they use, e.g. the ink blob test, has proven to be completely useless, yet they still cling onto them.

    #70

    Ran Into A Recruiter On Hinge

    Ran Into A Recruiter On Hinge

    Thebowks Report

    #71

    Experience I Had With A Recruiter After Asking Why The Marketing Role I Applied For Had A Lot Of Sales Duties In The Jd

    Experience I Had With A Recruiter After Asking Why The Marketing Role I Applied For Had A Lot Of Sales Duties In The Jd

    CalTheManager Report

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    #72

    Starter Page Agree?

    Starter Page Agree?

    IncongruousKamble Report

    Vorknkx
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You sure it wasn't a homeless dog you saw?

    CelticElff
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the next day you were called in to an interview, and it was the same homeless dog! ZOMG.

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    #73

    Why Is This Necessary, Panera?

    Why Is This Necessary, Panera?

    MrPresident11 Report

    Evil Little Thing
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Imperial March (Darth Vader's theme music).

    Mama Penguin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F**ked With an Anchor - Alestorm

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Burning Down The House or 99 Luftballoons

    Sandor M
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would answer no to both question

    M O'Connell
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gimmie, Gimmie, Gimmie - ABBA

    KitKat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fire Water Burn by Bloodhound Gang www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adgx9wt63NY Ya know ya wanna sing along 🤘

    Justme
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something ridiculous like the Electric Boogie

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    #74

    I Can't Explain How Good Sending This Made Me Feel!

    I Can't Explain How Good Sending This Made Me Feel!

    biwitches Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they’d only dropped a quick email to say that, though they were an excellent candidate and the choice was difficult, but they had to go with another candidate. “However, we will keep your resume on file and, if another role opens up that we feel you’d be great in, we’ll get back in contact with you. We wish you lots of luck in your job hunting endeavors”, or something to that effect. In the meantime, the candidate may have found a job, but might not be quite happy in it, and their email about another role to interview for might very well have been welcomed and appreciated. Now, how hard would that have been?

    #75

    Amazon Tries To Recruit Microsoft’s Cto For A Backend Engineer Position

    Amazon Tries To Recruit Microsoft’s Cto For A Backend Engineer Position

    PasTaCopine Report

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    #76

    When Recruiters Turn Aggressive For No Reason

    When Recruiters Turn Aggressive For No Reason

    AnotherThrowAway9231 Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Quite often, jobs like that require you to f*****g commit your life and hell, sacrifice your health and well being, to earn it. In other words, work way harder than is necessary, and burn out quickly.

    #77

    Pto

    Pto

    MentalSC Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another company that’s a legend in their mentally f****d up CEO’s own mind.

    #78

    Why Does Anyone?

    Why Does Anyone?

    Mr__O__ Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You want an honest answer, or a b******t brown-nosing one?

    M O'Connell
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So that I can buy sausages to eat, and have a home in which to pet my cat.

    #79

    Like Everyone Else Here, I Hate Linkedin

    Like Everyone Else Here, I Hate Linkedin

    Sarkastik-Madman Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve seen shot like this. A variation of bait and switch. Assholes.

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    #80

    Recruiter Put Me In A Group Chat With A Enployee From The Company. The Employee Looked At My Profile And Promptly Left The Chat Without Saying A Word. Note, I Was Qualified For This Job

    Recruiter Put Me In A Group Chat With A Enployee From The Company. The Employee Looked At My Profile And Promptly Left The Chat Without Saying A Word. Note, I Was Qualified For This Job

    AnAverageCat Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Red flags popping up everywhere.

    #81

    Never Again I Will Be Doing These Stupid Tests

    Never Again I Will Be Doing These Stupid Tests

    Dodgy-Boi Report

    Vorknkx
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The answer is "ecjy"... but yeah, this is a pretty weird (even stupid) question to ask candidates. I'd lose my enthusiasm pretty quickly.

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I suppose I could understand it on a position that relies heavily on pattern recognition. But this stinks of using an unofficial "IQ" test to weed out applicants.

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    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For anyone wondering at the logic... 1st letter: skips letters going forward W_(x)_Y_(z)_A_(b)_C_(d)_E... 2nd letter going backwards up the alphabet G_F_E_D_C....3rd letter going forwards up the alphabet F_G_H_I_J... 4th letter skips 3 letters between I_(j, k, l)_M_(n, o, p)_Q_(r, s, t)_U_(v,w,x)_Y

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this a job interview or the SAT?

    DuchessDegu
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    f.u.c.... well you know where I'm going with that

    Spiral Agent
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have never, not once, been able to do the "next in" sequences. I just randomly select each time.

    Wilf
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ecjy. Took me a while because I didn't immediately spot that the alphabetical sequence goes from W-Y- to back around to A again.

    Jessica Cifelli
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think its fbkz. Only 1 with letters not used yet

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    #82

    Unfortunately, This Employer Didn't Make It To The Next Round

    Unfortunately, This Employer Didn't Make It To The Next Round

    polemicist1 Report

    LuckyL
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People make mistakes. If it's the first time - correct them. If they keep spelling the name wrong, that's the perfect response.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Smart. The company’s f*****g metrics would dump your resume for a missed comma or an extra space between words. If the company can’t show enough respect to even spell a candidate’s name correctly, it’s a huge red flag, and they need to stop being such housing beggars when hiring.

    Sue User
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once took a job across country. Got there and discovered they had set me up ( email, network drive, etc ) with the wrong name. Job only went downhill from there

    #83

    Stats From My 11-Month Job Search

    Stats From My 11-Month Job Search

    DenL4242 Report

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    #84

    When "Support" Is Literally In The Job Title But Isn't A Support Role?

    When "Support" Is Literally In The Job Title But Isn't A Support Role?

    dabyathatsme Report

    #85

    Bribe The Hiring Manager After A Rejection?

    Bribe The Hiring Manager After A Rejection?

    Relative_Split_9390 Report

    Mama Penguin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not wasting $20 only to be ghosted.

    Aqsa Azam
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This gives inspirational, motivational youtube videos with sunrises and people in silhouettes and a deep, baritone voice vibes

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    #Don'tNormalizeBribing

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most of us don’t have the money to burn to do this. You know there are plenty of assholes out there who would take the gift card and never give that applicant another thought.

    Donkey boi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'Think she'll be remembered?'... No, No I don't! I think that gift card will be given to another member of staff (save's them buying something, and lets them give the impression they reward their staff), and her name will be completely forgotten.

    Spiral Agent
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like I wouldn't do this. If everyone did, the jobs will expect it and say no submissions under $100.

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, because what someone who needs a job is easily able to do is buy a gift card for someone who just rejected them in the of chance they'll reconsider-by-bribery.

    #86

    A Recruiters Angry Reaction To The Idea That Salary Info Should Be Given Right Away. They Claim We're Not Entitled To It Until We Give Them Our Time For A Meeting

    A Recruiters Angry Reaction To The Idea That Salary Info Should Be Given Right Away. They Claim We're Not Entitled To It Until We Give Them Our Time For A Meeting

    votedog Report

    AcrylicMasquerade
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is kind of hilarious, actually. The recruiter just came back, really quite rudely, with many things many people I know actually want. However, they still didn't come back with the salary range.

    IDK_Something
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially funny that it would've taken considerably less time and energy!

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wasting someone’s time ALSO cuts both ways, HR a*****e.

    Zsolt Hegedűs
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They know if they posted the salary range in the recruitment info, they would get half or even less applications for the role.

    Adam Zad
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How do you know I'm remotely qualified for the job? You read my firetrucking resume, you twit.

    #87

    Well… Was Rejected For A Job While Checking If Qualified

    Well… Was Rejected For A Job While Checking If Qualified

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    Vorknkx
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rejection efficiency level > 9000!

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "...while it is company policy to not to share any specific interview feedback" that is some fine business BS. It's a classic trick of hiding behind "company policy", and using the excuse of having their hands tied, when in reality they are too lazy/profit fixated to put in the effort of helping others, they are willing to give people a second chance, but how do they expect them to do better without them knowing what went wrong. I read that as, "We're dickheads, who doesn' want to act decently, as that will cost us too much". Why did you choose that policy? We're all kind of stumbeling our way through life and have to learn certain things on the go, and feedback is an important tool for easing that process. Cutting away that option for someone who has put in some effort to try and fit into your company is just not fair, and only enhanse the image of Amazon being a cynical company that only cares about profit and happily sacrifice humans to achieve it. Is that what you are aiming for?

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    #88

    Lol. It’s Literal Hell On Earth Folks

    Lol. It’s Literal Hell On Earth Folks

    reddit.com Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FFS, make it related experience at least, without the number of years. That way they can list any jobs they had where they used skills apropos to the job, as well as internships within the industry itself.

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, and if no company is willing to put in the effort of training the newly graduated people, how many people with 3-5 years experience do they expect to be able to hire in 5 years? You cannot be picky like that, but have to make an investment in growing what you need instead of allways counting on harvesting the fruits of other people's labor. It is the same thing with craftsmen, the companies are screaming that the cannot find enough skilled workers, yet no one is willing to take on trainees, so how the hell did they imagine the situation to get any better in the future?

    #89

    Unless You Got A 3.5 Gpa In Engineering, Don't Bother Applying. If You Didn't Get At Least A 3.5, You Just Didn't Work Hard Enough

    Unless You Got A 3.5 Gpa In Engineering, Don't Bother Applying. If You Didn't Get At Least A 3.5, You Just Didn't Work Hard Enough

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    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least someone was able to learn, and admit their mistakes. That shows an open mind, and the ability to improve, that's good thing. Grades are not everything. If you put in all your time and effort into optimising them, and thereby spend all your time with the nose deep down in a book, you are likely to miss out of a large part of life, and hence you won't learn a lot of other important life lessons. Books can only get you part of the way there. The assumption of everybody being able to get good grades if they just put in the effort can also be wrong. Sometimes life just happens, and some external circumstances requires that you for a period put your main focus on something else. People get sick, can stuggle to pay the bills, their house burns down or something else emminent comes along, that can affect the amount of effort they can put into shcool. Furthermore, groupwork is quite popular these days and if you end in a group with four slackers, getting top grades can be hard when it requires that you do the work of 5 people.

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He can be taught, ladies and gentlemen!

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://www.hrdive.com/news/should-employers-care-about-gpa-anymore/528430/

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I heard that saying, “Cs get degrees”. But some of us actually put in a lot of extra effort and got that 4.0 GPA, so please don’t overlook our drive, effort, and commitment in favor of someone who spent more time doing kegstands than studying. FYI, I did that, starting as a 51 year old freshman (college was not a possibility for me at 18, though I had the grades, then life got in the way), and ending as a 58 year old with a Masters degree. I had a 4.0 GPA while many of my 18 year old, 22 year old, 25 year old classmates had 2.0 GPAs. People half my age and more. The ability to learn new things, and learn them quickly and well, does not end in your twenties. I even memorized entire presentations, including those for my French classes, so I know for certain that my memory and abilities are just fine—-and better than those of many people much younger than me.

    #90

    An Assessment "That Measures Your Personality And Cognitive Skills." Total Estimated Time To Complete Is 1 Hour, I Gave Up After 15 Minutes. This Is After Three Hours Of Interviews For A Data Job At A Dying Company

    An Assessment "That Measures Your Personality And Cognitive Skills." Total Estimated Time To Complete Is 1 Hour, I Gave Up After 15 Minutes. This Is After Three Hours Of Interviews For A Data Job At A Dying Company

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    Sarah M.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband has severe test panic. I do not. I did every one of his assessments for a job he was uniquely qualified for, because they looked like that garbage. (Except the actual technical assessment, obvi) He was hired. His first year he aced an audit the company had never gotten more than 80% on. Because. He. Is. Good. At. His. Job. Me? I'm good at stupid a** brainteasers.

    Colin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Question 1 - First tile Question 2 - 35585 Not that difficult really.

    Spiral Agent
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Glad you have such big brain energy.

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    #91

    They Really Really Don’t Like The Taste Of Their Own Medicine

    They Really Really Don’t Like The Taste Of Their Own Medicine

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    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear Recruiters and Hiring Managers (Everywhere), it takes you 30 seconds to write an email letting us know you've received our application/inquiry and have decided to remove yourself from our application process. I PROMISE you we don't mind. Being a 'no-show' to our application is just not acceptable"..... and I could go on about employers ghosting applicants en masse.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreed. But don’t then turn around and hypocritically ghost me after I interview with you. Deal?

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kind of agree with the recruiter here. If you don't intend to use the oportunity you have been given, the least you can do is to free up the time slot that has been reserved for you. Having someone spending mayby 20 minutes of their workday, and causing them the confusion about what is happening is just not fair. Especially since, if they are good people, they will contact you, probably by phone, in order to figure out what the hell happened since you were a no-show, and if it was something out of your control so you deserve a second chance. So you have to spend that time on the issue anyway. When you can save another person a lot of time and worries by spending just a tiny bit of your own time, you should do it.

    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just common courtesy all around people.

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    #92

    Bullet Dodged

    Bullet Dodged

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    Spiral Agent
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd ask that too. I have priorities that don't involve the work place, and more often than not, exceeds the work needs.

    Alma Muminovic
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t see why recruiters get offended by straight forward questions like pay and hours. We all wanna know.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just like the salary, the schedule matters. I have a life, and a husband, to coordinate with my job, so knowing what my schedule is going to be, from the get-go, is extremely important.

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem here is that employers don't understand that the question about money or days off has nothing to do with selfishness. They think people are asking because we want to see what benefits we can start to extract from our employers like greedy little demons, rubbing our hands. The fact is that we ask about money because there's no reason to waste your time if what you offer doesn't pay our rent. There's no reason to waste your time if you don't allow to have Thursday's off because that's the day your child has cancer treatments on that day and you can't reschedule. Or maybe you take care of a parent. Or any number of things that are required by your life. Why sit through an hour long conversation, get ready, be nervous, drive there...why do all of that if there's no possible way to take the job? They should welcome these questions to weed out anyone who isn't actually able to take the job.

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah forget to let it spill through that you are actaully a human being and and as such have human needs, that must be considered. You are about to be pressed into a mold that will reshape you to be the perfect cog that will make the big machine turn.

    #93

    Startup Trying To Poach Me From My Current Job, But Wants Me To Go Through 6+ Hours Of Interviews

    Startup Trying To Poach Me From My Current Job, But Wants Me To Go Through 6+ Hours Of Interviews

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poaching someone means you already know they’re ready to jump in and do the job right away. With no need to interview for 15 minutes, much less six hours. F*****g idiots.

    Full Name
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the employer has made an offer and the candidate has decided to accept, then the 3rd interview sounds like a really good idea.

    DuchessDegu
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That should be covered in the first day/week after the candidate is hired so at least they'd be paid for their time

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    #94

    Not So Fun When The Tables Are Turned, Are They?

    Not So Fun When The Tables Are Turned, Are They?

    drdessertlover Report

    James016
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can make your life easier by putting the salary in the job description and cut out all the BS of tests, 10 interviews and no feedback to the candidate

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...and if you wrote something about what the job is actually about, and what tasks you expect the candidate to perform, instead of just a bunch of well sounding fluffy bragging terms, it would be a great help when we try to figure out how we would fit into your company. Information about when the company was established, how the food in the canteen is, and how much money you earned last year, is quite useless when people try to figure out how they can help you, if they are hirered. I have seen cases so bad, that after reading the job proposal I did not even know what the company does (the fact might have been that they did not really do much at all, but only sold some kind worthless of consultat BS). Give us some bones with a bit more meat on, so we have something to work with when evaluating if we are a good match for the position. A good job proposal should anser the questions of: what do you offer, and what do you expect me to do.

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    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it's fun... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    #95

    Teaching Math Literally Pays Less Than Working In Fast Food

    Teaching Math Literally Pays Less Than Working In Fast Food

    No-Savings-1063 Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I made more than that (adjusting for inflation) at my first full time job when I was 19 and just had a high school diploma. In 1979.

    Karyn Stouffer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. I saw a lot of these recently. Required degree for minimum wage, or just over. Shameful.

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    #96

    Table Tennis Tables Everywhere!

    Table Tennis Tables Everywhere!

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, but look to see if they appear to have been used in a regular basis. Some companies put in these toys, but frown an any employee who actually tries to use them. It’s all PR b******t.

    #97

    After Two Months Of Being Jerked Around For A Job I Really Wanted, I Stood Up For Myself For Once

    After Two Months Of Being Jerked Around For A Job I Really Wanted, I Stood Up For Myself For Once

    aboynamedrat Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But it wouldn’t be any skin off your asses to at least send along an update now and then, ffs.

    #98

    Unfortunately I Am A Human Being

    Unfortunately I Am A Human Being

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    Tamsin Far
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this information helps - a LOT. Honestly, how do they like their work to be done? If not most of it can be solved using existing processes there is something severely wrong with how my team is organized, we will get completely random results and our customers and users will never be able to rely on anything.

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reasons: have a job environment which isn't a mess

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't want any CEO that did not do any of that. Someone who acts like what they seem to want, sounds like a crazy psycopath. Lets turn things around. So you want: Someone who actively seeks and starts a lot of conflicts and moves straight into trouble instead of looking for the oportunity to steer clear of them, so things are kept nice and calm? You want someone who probably have a well equiped tool box, containing special tools, perfected over a long time period for specific tasks, to trow them all away, and instead use a wrench to hammer in a nail, or spend a lot of time inventing a new way of doing things that will probably be more costly and produce a worse result? You want someone who makes up his mind, not on information and fact, but gutfeeling and emotions alone, which probably have not root in the real world? So you basically want a Donald Trump to run the business? What is this? some sort of bankrupcy scam where you somehow can earn money on running it into the ground?

    James016
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because I prefer to make my decisions with the incomprehensible gibberish presented to me.

    #99

    They Said The Quiet Part Out Loud

    They Said The Quiet Part Out Loud

    CFOCPA Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ageism. Illegal as f**k. Older employees aren’t always boomer Karens. Many of us are experienced, settled, and very capable of handling the work and learning new skills. Not everyone stagnates when they reach an more advanced age. Also, some of us can’t afford to retire, and will have to work until we drop dead. We may be in our sixties, but we still have bills to pay—-and some of us have student loans to pay off—-just like millennials—-for Masters degrees or PhDs our fields told us we now needed to advance in our careers—-and we graduated at the top of our classes, doing better than classmates half our age! So don’t try to tell me older employees can’t learn new skills.

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    #100

    Would He?

    Would He?

    arbobmehmood Report

    Chloé-Louis Beaugrand
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell me I'm not the only one whose brain is screaming "red flags" at the "we don't believe in boundaries" on the top of the image

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "would a crazy billionaire on cocaine hire me?"

    RedCorvette
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Elon bros are everywhere. I thought they are a rare breed only found on Twitter.

    Spiral Agent
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would be hire me? No. Probably cuz I'd ask him what's wrong with his face.

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A better question- are you Elon Musk? Then why are you comparing yourself to him? Also, are you going to pay me like he does? Offer benefits like he does? No? Ohhh okay.

    #101

    Rejected From Cat Sitting

    Rejected From Cat Sitting

    billabong295 Report

    Stephanie A Mutti
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A marine biologist... so she understands animals that live in the oceans which does not include cats... AND why isn't she working as a marine biologist?

    Emmett O'Brian
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked in IT with a marine biologist. The closest he ever got to a marine biology job was cleaning stables at a horse farm.

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How TF does being a Marine Biologist make you more qualified to be a cat sitter? Because most—-but not all!—-cats like to eat fish? Cripes. The best candidate would be an experienced animal care person—-even better if they’re a certified veterinary technician, or are at least enrolled in classes to become a vet tech.

    Full Name
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How much time does their cat spend in the sea?!?

    IDK_Something
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Evidently a lot, since they're hiring a cat sitter! 🤣 ETA: Punctuation

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    Purple Gerbil
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw this on Twitter. I’ve been rejected from cat care roles even though I have 6+ years experience in animal care I get told I don’t have enough experience. To clean up s**t.

    #102

    I Had This Lovely Interaction This Morning. I Haven't Heard Back From Them

    I Had This Lovely Interaction This Morning. I Haven't Heard Back From Them

    _cactus_blossom_ Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do so many jobs have to include sales? Let salespeople do sales, and leave the rest of us to do our own, non-sales jobs without that pressure. I am not a good salesperson, especially when my paycheck is at stake. Leave that pressure off, and if I manage to inadvertently sell something, then bonus. Otherwise, do not pressure me to sell. It’s an exercise in futility.

    Chaz83
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same. I've had a customer facing job for 3.5 years. The business was sold to another company who now tell me that my job is "sales" and pay is dependant on those sales! I objected because I'm not a sales person and I shouldn't be punished financially because THEY changed the job role - I wouldn't even apply for the job I have now. I've been searching for a new job for 12 months but as I'm in a regional area, there isn't much available so I'm stuck for now.

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    Karyn Stouffer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Goodness! Why did this turn into a shouting match?

    #103

    All Right Boys, It's Time To Pack Up. Work-Life Integration Is Here!

    All Right Boys, It's Time To Pack Up. Work-Life Integration Is Here!

    assassinofkings316 Report

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Work-Life integration: When you wake up in the morning and see your boss peeing in your bathroom...

    Karyn Stouffer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah. Sounds like they are a bunch of boundary-ignoring meth-heads.

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No fixed desks? F**k no. I like to have my own permanent desk, so I can personalize my workspace. It makes me feel comfortable to have some personal pictures and things to look at while I work. Plus, I arrange it so everything’s there and within easy reach. Without it, I feel temporary and can never fully commit to the job. Even if other people are happy playing musical desks, I prefer to have my own permanent space—-that no one else is allowed to use!

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    #104

    Brb Crying

    Brb Crying

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. I. Will. Not. Get off your asses and f*****g interview me.

    #105

    Saw Someone Upset About A One Year Ban. Try 5

    Saw Someone Upset About A One Year Ban. Try 5

    Poecifer Report

    #106

    I'm Sorry, A What?

    I'm Sorry, A What?

    MothButtons Report

    mulk
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *Extravert pyschopath control freak on acid

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And most likely a host of other “fetishes” as well, and not all good ones. I mean, how many “respectable” have been found to have weird, and even sick, fetishes? So yeah, a job ad shouldn’t really include the word “Fetish”.

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    #107

    Works Of Fiction

    Works Of Fiction

    chankoroinsecticide2 Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have been trying to start my own business for a while now. That takes time, and should be considered a good reason for a gap (though I would use my company to fill that gap, I would still be truthful when asked about it. If someone lies at the interview, they’ll probably lie about everything else if they’re hired.

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    #108

    "Send Your Resume And Statement Of Faith" Wtf

    "Send Your Resume And Statement Of Faith" Wtf

    WanderLust24908 Report

    CaptainDinosaur
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Southern Baptists? You mean the kid f*****s?

    Anony Mouse
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, they're just one of many groups of kid f*****s. They're the most recently outed f*****s.

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    John Robacker
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an interview once where I was asked if I go to church.. I couldn't answer as I thought it was inappropriate... The interview ended right then

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have seen these and they puzzled me. Unless the want ad is for a rabbi, priest, or pastor, isn’t this discrimination based on religion, and therefore illegal?

    Zero
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a seminary near me that has a similar requirement. For a religious institution, I'd say that's normal. Not necessarily the smartest choice as they severely restrict their applicant pool, but understandable.

    VodkaInMySweetTea
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean... it's a christian university that teaches christian education. I don't think it's weird to look for christian staff. ?

    CelticElff
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty sure this is illegal

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What is the job? It would make sense if they are seaching for priest, or someone to teach at a religious school, but that is about it when it comes to jobs where people's faith is partly their business.

    Stephanie A Mutti
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They get to advertise for what they want. At least they're being up-front and honest.

    FreshGanesh
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree they should only hire people who align with their views, but they’re hiring for a job and one’s personal beliefs should be personal. They don’t have to hire someone who isn’t religious or a christian, but EOE laws prevent it from being a consideration. Therefore, they can’t blatantly discriminate against religious standing (or lack thereof) in their advertising for the position. It’s the same with the law on age. They can opt to not hire someone older, but shouldn’t be breaking the law to recruit.

    Lizzy Crit
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a religious institution and therefore exempt from those laws. They absolutely can legally require specific faith, sexual orientation and set of genitalia. What's right and what's legal are not the same thing.

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    #109

    Racist Interviewer Gives Easier Questions To White And Asian Men

    Racist Interviewer Gives Easier Questions To White And Asian Men

    daloypolitsey Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an a*****e, and a crook, as that’s illegal. The reason they’re seemingly boasting about it is because they’re probably posting this on a racist website. Hope they’re found out and doxed for it.

    #110

    How Tone Deaf Can You Be? I Think I Understand The Point She’s Trying To Make But She’s Made Herself Sound Like A Sociopath

    How Tone Deaf Can You Be? I Think I Understand The Point She’s Trying To Make But She’s Made Herself Sound Like A Sociopath

    Candlesticksnape Report

    Ralica K.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my experience most recruiters ARE sociopaths...they just seem like a species apart...

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have to words for you: F**k and You.

    #111

    I Did A Stupid Writing Test For This Company Four Years Ago That Never Got Back To Me. I Decided To Follow Up

    I Did A Stupid Writing Test For This Company Four Years Ago That Never Got Back To Me. I Decided To Follow Up

    Concerned_Dennizen Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait. The “stupid writing test” never got back to you? And you wonder why they didn’t immediately offer you the job? (Though they could’ve shot you a rejection email anyway.)

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    #112

    Me After Going To Multiple Job Intrviews

    Me After Going To Multiple Job Intrviews

    Altruistic-Gal-2209 Report

    #113

    Inject This In My Veins

    Inject This In My Veins

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    #114

    It's Completely Normal To Have To Literally Beg For A Job Outside Company Hq

    It's Completely Normal To Have To Literally Beg For A Job Outside Company Hq

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    Jason Doakes
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If exposing, demeaning and debasing yourself is the only way to get good jobs, all those jobs will be filled by clowns