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Money is a sensitive topic but one that many of us are very curious about. Odds are that if someone were to ask any of you Pandas if you’re being underpaid for the work you do, you’re likely to answer that you’re undervalued at your job. This goes for people in most careers, as we tend to think we deserve to get more than whatever sum we’re receiving now. After all, we’re truly great workers, aren’t we? We deserve more doubloons for our valuable time!
However, even though we don’t think we’re being overpaid, we might have a different opinion about folks in other sectors of the job industry. Redditors have been opening up about which professions they believe are vastly overpaid in a series of threads on the r/AskReddit subreddit, and we’ve collected the most interesting comments to share with you.
Scroll down, have a read through these internet users’ opinions, and let us know which of these you agree and disagree with, dear Pandas. Just remember, someone’s opinion about a certain profession potentially being overvalued, overpaid, and overentitled doesn’t necessarily make it true. On the flip side, some opinions are so accurate, it's spooky.
The US Bureau of Labor Statistics puts the national annual mean wage for a full-time worker in 2021 at $53,490 year. This translates to $1,028 for a full 40-hour workweek.
I reached out to financial expert Sam Dogen for a chat about what determines the vast differences between salaries in different professions and how we can all increase our earnings potential. Sam is the founder of the Financial Samurai project that helps people achieve financial independence. Read on for Bored Panda's full interview with the expert.
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#1
Any 'professional player' of any kind of sport is overpaid. Meanwhile, teachers, who are the absolute base of society, need to have part-time jobs just to be able to pay their electric bills.
Sum Guy 4 years ago
I get why these are overpaid though... it's a correlation between millions of people paying to watch and their eventual salaries. Life isn't fair, that's just the truth and people will attack the players who have worked to become good enough to be paid a lot.
Pat Bond 4 years ago
Supply & demand of a skillset that is highly valued to a limited number of employers. Unfortunately nurses/teachers etc, for want of better phrasing are 10 a penny in comparison.
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DennyS (denzoren) 4 years ago
Waaayyyyy overpaid. I appreciate that you are very skilled but it is still way overpaid.
Angela B 4 years ago
Nurses, cashiers, chemist staff....I can think of a lot of people who should be paid a heck of a lot more. No disrespect to teachers but as a Nurse, it's been pretty crap going to work every day for nearly 2 years now.
QueenRhye 4 years ago
Athletes have to earn what they can in a limited amount of time. Unlike teachers, who can teach into their 70's, athletes have a short span of time before they are "too old" to perform their duties. And that usually means a lot of them are in their 30's. Also some are risking life and limb out there every week. Potential brain injury can happen in any sport. I think they are overpaid, but you have to consider their circumstances.
Scagsy 4 years ago
There are also people who believe that players only turn up for work on match day and spend the rest of the week at leisure. Most sportsmen and women will be training when you are eating your Christmas dinner with your family as well as all the other family events. Every. Single. Day. Anything less and you will not reach the top.
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Scott T Brynildsen 4 years ago
Then stop watching sports. They're not athletes, they're celebrities who are only getting paid because YOU watch them.
Al Cook 4 years ago
This is going to apply to most of the posts on this entire thread I think, but people are paid for any role based on their skills/knowledge/experience, and what their market value is based on how many others are available with that same expertise. If you're the only person in the world that can perform an in demand service, you could theoretically charge whatever you like and people would have to find a way to pay you if they needed that service. In this particular scenario, those athletes are absolutely elite, the best on the planet, noone on this board can do what they do, and they are in demand. Therefore the market says they're worth millions, and I personally find it irritating that people can't see that's how the world works.
Dorothy Parker 4 years ago
Fewer teachers end up with life changing injuries and brain damage in their late thirties.
Martha Higgins 4 years ago
The way to stop this is to NOT buy tickets to these events, to NOT buy the merchandise for these Professional teams, to NOT pay for the events on Pay-Per-View. Think that will happen? No? I don't either, but I won't do any of those things.
"In general, the people who create more economic value (profits) tend to get paid more. However, at some point, the compensation amounts become ridiculously out of touch with reality. The clear case is CEO compensation at large, publicly-traded companies," financial expert Sam told Bored Panda that some salaries simply don't make sense, given the value they don't provide.
"For example, Google's CEO, Sundar Pichai's compensation was over $280 million in 2019, largely consisting of stock awards. Nobody reasonably believes that Sundar deserves to earn that much. There are plenty of well-qualified people who could have done what he did on 1% of his total compensation."
Meanwhile, the people who bring the most value to our society don't necessarily get paid as much as they contribute. "Then you have some of the most important professions in the world, like teachers getting paid less than $100,000 a year. If children are our future and our most valuable assets, teachers should get paid way more. Society's extreme focus on profits fails to fully appreciate the work people do where immediate gains are not as clear. We need to appreciate more our stay-at-home parents, educators, nurses, and social workers," Sam said.
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#2
Politicians should be very well-paid by the government and absolutely forbidden from any other revenue streams. No donations to the politician, no lobbying, no gifts, no grifts. No speaking fees, no book deals, no consulting gigs. Nothing. For their entire duration in office and for five (maybe 10) years after leaving office. Politicians should be forced to disclose every single gift they receive; even a birthday card from their mom with $5 inside needs to be tracked and monitored.
Celia McReynolds Tinsley 4 years ago
Politicians should make no more than the average salary of their district. If this occurred we would have politicians who ran for office because they truly wanted to make a difference.
Ozacoter 4 years ago
I agree. Even if you want to pay them high maybe say twice the minimum salary. They would raise the minimum salary so fast that we wouldnt see it.
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jk nbt 4 years ago
they create tax-free foundations like the Clintons did to manage all the under-the-table money
WilvanderHeijden 4 years ago
And Trump didn't even hide how he and his family profited from his presidency.
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T.Milly 4 years ago
Politicians shouldn't be allowed to stay in office forever. There should be an age cap too.
Monica Michelle 4 years ago
Not sure about age but term limits are a must
Load More Replies... Ozacoter 4 years ago
And they should never be allowed to work as consultants for electricity water or gas companies. Thats the reason why they do whatever they want, politicians let them get away with it because later they will get gifts or a job there. We checked the other day and from our electricity bill only 16% of what we pay is for our consumption. 21% are taxes and 63 are "maintenance of the net". F*****s
V Martinez 4 years ago
Can we also make them get the same medical insurance that is offered to everyone else? Or at least let what they get in office, run out when they leave office, unless they do a full 20 years, then they can have the retirement option, like the military does. And they should never be allowed to vote for their own raises!
Kendra Miller 4 years ago
THIS, plus a bonus based on not the GDP but the GDH, the gros domestic happiness indicator of the country. Encourage them to do what's best for everyone versus their own party and constituents.
Monica Michelle 4 years ago
They should have to put all stocks in a blind trust along with any businesses
Jaybird3939 4 years ago
Politicians should not be paid until they balance the budget. Withholding pay because of an unbalance budget should affect them as well as day to day Americans.
#3
"Big" time preachers! I'm not saying all preachers, but the ones with mega churches.
Suz66 4 years ago
My brother is a pastor at a small church. Their church is in an industrial area in a warehouse. No fancy decorations, no stained glass and they don't do a collection. They have a box for donations and the pastors have day jobs. The focus is on Jesus and they use the money for expenses and the poor. That's how it should be.
Noel Benavente 4 years ago
That's how it should be, exactly. I'm atheist, but i have told many friends that if this religion were about teaching you the life of JC as a human being, that had many followers because of his teachings only (humbleness, sharing, being kind etc.) and not about being the son of a spirit creator of everything an all that i would definitively be a christian.
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Tom Susala 4 years ago
Especially a clown like Creflo Dollar who was screaming about how he needs a new 747 in order to spread God's word
Debbie Burns 4 years ago
Most of their wealth comes from their congregation "tithing" then "speaking engagements" if they get famous enough (I'm pointing at you Hill Song) and I agree with this 100%. Just like any other individual choosing how to use the money they have, there are sneaky ass church leaders who allow the money to change them with greed. There are also church, religious leaders who's congregation donates just as much and they live a simple life putting the money where they say they will (and I'm pointing at you Joel Osteen) the larger the financial divide gets the more I'm sickened by mansions and numerous cars and ridiculously expensive clothing, covering their kids in thousands of dollars for 1 outfit they only wear once (Kardashians anyone?) And since I'm on THIS rant already, news sources that make a huge deal about celebs or royalty ("Thrifty Kate") wearing shoes or pants or coats or clothing more than once making a big deal out of it while I'm wearing the same dress to work today I wore (GASP) 6 DAYS AGO. Yeah. All of this. 🧐😢
Tami 4 years ago
At the very least, there needs to be a fair tax structure for religious organizations. The mega-prosperity churches are big businesses that have gotten way out of hand and their leaders no longer represent many of the key teachings from the Bible. Matthew 19:24: "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God"
DennyS (denzoren) 4 years ago
John Oliver did a brilliant piece on this a while back, preying on people seeking help and guidance.
Stephanie A Mutti 4 years ago
If you are making MONEY off explaining GOD to everyone,,, then you are not really explaining, you are exploiting.
According to Sam, increasing our earnings potential, at its core, is about increasing our value to the company. A large part of this is using our social skills to our advantage and putting in the extra effort at work. "We must be well-liked, grow our network of supporters, work longer than the average employee, and manage our managers. I believe most of us have the ability to make six figures a year," the expert shared with Bored Panda.
"If we cannot get that raise and promotion we deserve, absolutely job hop for better opportunities. Job hopping tends to reset your value to market rate, which helps you keep climbing. Once you master the six-figure income opportunities, it's time to learn about who makes over $1 million a year to get really motivated! The top 0.1% income-earners are more ubiquitous than we think."
#4
Social media "influencers"
Caro Caro 4 years ago
Isn't this just advertising? I hate it but still, it wouldn't exist if it wasn't viable.
A B C 4 years ago
Yes it is, but somehow media has confused people enough so that they believe it's enjoyable advertisement.
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buttonpusher 4 years ago
Hate this whole narcissistic crap nowadays. Everyone wants to be a feckin influencer just to feel validated by a bunch of strangers on the internet because they have nothing else going for them, or are too lazy to try.
DennyS (denzoren) 4 years ago
We went from creators to influencers...from really good content to basically advertising. Thankfully there are still a lot of good creators who can utilize the monetization.
More Thinking Needed 4 years ago
The scam of influencers: "Pay me money (or give me something for free) and I promise I will give you a good review".
#5
Reality TV stars.
The cast of Jersey Shore are making anywhere from $80,000 to $150,000 per episode.
Lucifer 4 years ago (edited)
The Kardashians & Jenners are everything that's wrong with the US. And so are Jersey Shore a*holes and the Real Housewives crap.
Robby Bell 2 years ago (edited)
I fully support burning andy cohen at the stake. Except I'm pretty sure he'd just scream "balenciaga!"
Load More Replies... DennyS (denzoren) 4 years ago
They would be if we just didn't watch the show...same with the Kardashians but a lot of people follow them as thought they add some value to society when all they do is increase insecurities.
best turtle 4 years ago
reality TV sucks ass now. they just get drunk and duke it out with thier own security people
V Martinez 4 years ago
I wish those types of "reality" shows didn't even exist. Or at least shouldn't be considered reality.
#6
CEOs of charities.
Caro Caro 4 years ago
This. You pay 10 dollars and 2 goes to the cause, the other dollars go to ceo's, rent and advertising. Remember "Foster Parents Plan"? They paid their ceo a ridiculous salary and were in one of the most expensive buildings in Amsterdam. Basterds.
KatHat 4 years ago
This reply doesn't cover your example (Foster Parents Plan) since I don't know anything about it, but the rest of your comment is WAY off the mark. Think about it for 2 min. "$2 goes to the cause and the rest goes to [whatever]". First of all, that ratio is not generally how it works - usually it's $8 to the cause and $2 to what's called "overhead" - but regardless, TELL ME HOW ANYONE IS SUPPOSED TO DO A JOB WITHOUT OVERHEAD. You can't do ANY good work without a) people b) technology c) insurance d) other overhead (might be a building and utilities; might be travel costs, whatever). People insisting that they want to pay ONLY for services but none of the structure or expertise that makes those services possible are not living in the real world. Again, not talking about scams; those are indefensible, but the vast majority of charities are not scams but people keep making the argument you're making and it's killing the ability of charities to do good work.
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Miguel justino C 4 years ago
Kind of related. When your asked to donate a dollar at retail stores your giving them a dollar. Then they lump sum it and donate for the tax write off. BS
Rissie 4 years ago
Charities needed to scale up to make any impact, but their "business model" is long dead. Great charities get their money from the forking rich to get something done. And awesome smaller charities just don't pay their employees crazy salaries.
KatHat 4 years ago
It's not their "business model", it's capitalism. Services and care that SHOULD be done by the government becomes "optional" since the government would rather pay for wars and for corruption, so charities step into the gap. In a rich country like the US or the UK why on EARTH should basic things like education or heating or housing ever become something that's up to someone's goodwill or generosity? Those things should be basic. They're not though, because unchecked capitalism is destroying us all.
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Nikki Sevven 4 years ago
If you want to know what percentage of your donation actually funds charitable programs, check out this site: https://www.charitywatch.org/our-charity-rating-process
KatHat 4 years ago
Nope nope nope nope and more nope. Massive exception for the scammy ones, of course, since that's disgusting, but otherwise we should pay everyone at non-profits a good wage. Or pay more in tax so that work can be done by the government. The "overhead" myth is just that - a myth - and does a lot of damage. Dan Pallotta still has the last best word on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfAzi6D5FpM
Hugh Willie Mungous 4 years ago
This is the one I really object to. It has mad me VERY careful about which charities I donate to.
Of course, salaries don’t just stick to whatever the national average or mean is. They fluctuate. They deviate. Some wages make others as jealous as can be while others make them frown and mumble about how unfair life can be. In a perfect world, we wouldn’t have to worry about not earning enough to get by or enough to put a roof over our loved ones’ heads. However, this isn’t a perfect world and some professions appear to be vastly under/overpaid when you consider the amount of sweat, tears, and effort the workers put in.
According to Jobted, some of the professions that greatly deviate from the national average salary include pharmacists (they get roughly $112,800 per year), data scientists ($97,200), nurse practitioners ($96,285), and software engineers ($89,200).
On the flip side, some underpaid professions include electricians (they earn around $47,800 per year and are roughly 11% below the national average), pharmacy technicians ($35,800), medical assistants ($34,672), and certified nurse assistants (barely $29,286 which is 45% below the average).
#7
Even CEOs can't, under pressure, justify their pay. I will never forget how stupid that JP Morgan CEO looked when Congresswoman Katie Porter pulled out her white board then grilled him about his salary vs. a teller at his own bank.
Helen Haley 4 years ago
Value vs Pay, there is no justification for CEO or CFO salaries being what they are. And everyone should shake in their boots when facing Katie Porter.
Caro Caro 4 years ago
Why the heck you got a downvote??? here's an upper.
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Ozacoter 4 years ago
There should be limits about how much dofference it can be between the lowest and highest paid employee in a company (per hour).
SykesDaMan 4 years ago (edited)
There was a statement told by a french personality/comedian. It goes something like this "The only thing a CEO has to do is sometimes ask 'Everything is OK! Right?'. When the answer is yes, you're done but when the answer is no, follow it by 'How come?', scream a little while and you're done".
Ben Nichols 4 years ago
You know there is a CEO training for when Rep Katie Porter pulls out her white board. It usually goes like. Respond "I am not aware of the numbers at this time".
J Robertson 4 years ago
Clearly "trickle down" "Reaganomics" hasn't worked. It's absolutely disgusting.
Lulu Lemons 4 years ago
My mum used to be a CIO and she was always really annoyed about how much more the other Cs got, she always said their extra wages should go the charity they worked at. They were all male tho so that might be why they got more.
#8
Big name Actors, I'm sorry but I just don't see why anyone needs to earn 25million+ for two months worth of work. And I've worked in both film and theatre and understand all that goes on to make productions, just seems crazy to me. Great work if you can get it.
Sam Chilton 4 years ago
That's one of the reasons people love Keanu - he tends to share his big paychecks with the crew.
Scott T Brynildsen 4 years ago
Most of them actually go towards his disabled brother's care.
Load More Replies... Scott T Brynildsen 4 years ago
Then you actually know that some of the jobs actually take a hell of a lot longer than you're bitching about. Some take years and a lot of traveling, as well as makeup. Some of the jobs look easy because they don't bitch and moan about it because they're less likely to get another job if they're a pain to work with. Seriously, for someone who said they know the industry, you'd think you wouldn't be talking out your ass.
Carol Emory 4 years ago
Meanwhile, the crew that sets up everything, breaks it down, endures heat and cold to get the perfect shots, sometimes risking their lives, and who endures getting yelled at by directors, producers and actors get pittance of salaries.
Martha Higgins 4 years ago
And the ticket prices for a movie just continue to climb and climb because of that, same as tickets to concerts and sporting events. It's insane.
absolute zero 4 years ago
Without the actor the movie won't sell. They are the product, not the film.
Barbara Skolly 4 years ago
Agree. Stars are making millions meanwhile their make-up artists can barely afford to live.
J Robertson 4 years ago
I worked in Hollywood for 15 years. $25 million is an obscene amount of money but think of it like this. $25m - 50% for taxes. Agents and PR get 10-20% of that $25m which is $2.5m to $5m each. So now they're down to $15-20m gone. That leaves them $5m, which is a massive payday. Now, personal staff, assistants, house managers, Au Pair, greedy family (Britney Spears.) Then you have house maintenance and basic things that everyone has. $25m goes very fast and that's before you even see the check. They are still very well compensated but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the studios windfall. I can't imagine making that kind of money but I also would not like to be famous. It's very isolating. It's not all it's cracked up to be.
Debbie Burns 4 years ago
Scarlett Johansson would disagree with this taking a production company to court for knowingly cutting her income by $50M for sending the movie straight to streaming. Or judges that give ex spouses millions of dollars in child support &/or income to "keep up the lifestyle they're used to" I actually tried that when my son was 3 & I tried to increase the child support I wasn't getting anyway from $100 a month (yep. $100) to $500 a month to help pay for sports or extra curricular activities he wanted to try or, shame on me, clothes other than WalMart and the judge laughed me out of court. I REALLY need to stop reading this thread. This put a huge black stormy cloud over my head today 😢
#9
Paparazzi, you are paid to be a f*cking jerk.
best turtle 4 years ago
paparazzi have done some crazy and stupid s**t for a photo. they went as far as to hit ryan reynolds WITH A CAR just to get a photo.
J Robertson 4 years ago
They're awful. When Britney was going through all that BS years ago. I was in my way to work when she drove (she was actually passenger) out from the LA courthouse. I was right behind her at the light. They swarmed her car and we were just stuck there. Finally get on the 101 and they were chasing her. It's so mental. I've never experienced anything like that and that was just her life.
DennyS (denzoren) 4 years ago
I never really understood this until I saw the video with Kanye...where he was saying they were there at his house at 4am...like what!??! That's stalking.
What blows my mind is that jobs that sound similar have a financial gulf between them. Nurse practitioners and pharmacists earn several times more than pharmacy technicians, medical assistants, and certified nursing assistants. And it makes you wonder whether there haven’t been a few oversights here.
Previously, I reached out to financial expert Sam, the founder of the Financial Samurai blog, for a chat about why CEOs get paid so much money for what they do, compared to regular employees.
“CEOs have no magical powers. Yes, they have the operational experience to run big companies. However, they are often just spokespeople and ambassadors of the firm. One person cannot make that big a difference in a large organization. If Tim Cook from Apple steps down, the company will be fine. Another overpaid CEO will take his place,” he told Bored Panda during an interview.
#10
Pharmaceutical reps. Trust me!!
Dave P 4 years ago
They exist in Europe, why do you think the various NHS will only use one specific med rather than have many options for a condition
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More Thinking Needed 4 years ago
Until you make your way up the ranks, pharmaceutical sales does not pay well and is a hard job.
Seadog 4 years ago
In America it's a guarantee if a medicine works, it's headed for the discontinued bin to be replaced by a worthless generic. I have a few doses left of one made by Wyeth Labs. Discontinued around 2000. It works great, the generic? I could take the whole bottle and nothing would change. In the rare case it doesn't get canned, good luck getting a doctor to prescribe it. IE Augmentin. Doctors won't prescribe it because it's a little pricey (not their concern) and IT WORKS. They want to prescribe something else that either won't work or only works a little so you have to keep coming back again and again.
Big Chungus 4 years ago
There is a website (unfortunately I cannot remember the url, but I am sure you can google for it) that you can find out which pharma companies are paying your doctor to sell their meds and for how much
Leo Domitrix 4 years ago
Yes. They are no different than someone selling crack or heroin on a street corner.
#11
Hospital administration. Specifically in the US. Making $300,000 a year to scam the people and pretend to care about the workers.
Mazer 4 years ago
I know of only one CEO worth the money, she tripled the local clinics footprint and really cared about clients snd staff, she increased pay and offered to help pay off employee student loans. She was a gem which male management and board hated. The men made handshake deals and ran the clinic into the red. Of course they forced her out. F*****s. Now the clinic is back to running like someone is tossing darts in a pub with six pints in them.
John L 4 years ago
I was wondering when you were going to get to the part where she was forced out or fired....
Load More Replies... Caro Caro 4 years ago
This is outrageous. As a European it makes me cringe to see the americans getting scammed and ripped off for something that is a basic human right.
Leo Domitrix 4 years ago
Thank you. And it is no thrill being AMerican to see this.
Load More Replies... Zillyboy 4 years ago
If you are going to look at it from such a bitter perspective with sweeping, unsupported generalizations, I can see how that could be a problem from you. I suspect the administration would considering it "keeping a hospital afloat and serving the community amid an ongoing pandemic, staff shortages, and governmental meddling."
#12
High school and college head football coaches in the United States. You don’t even have to be good. Once you land a head coaching job, you can have a losing record and still make bank. In many high schools, the head coach will be the highest paid employee even if they don’t teach a class. College head coaches are often the highest paid public employees in any state.
Paul Davis 4 years ago
Educational institutions being run as a profit-making operations is sick, in my opinion. Has lead to all kinds of distortions and corruption.
Pat Bond 4 years ago
We have this problem in the UK with University chancellors on £500K salaries and a rather generous pension, whilst offering courses in certain fields that actually have no value to an employer or the student in the long run. All about "bums on seats"
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Scott T Brynildsen 4 years ago
Wow, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Many coaches in high schools in the United States have to double as a history teacher or English teacher while being the coach, and setting up plays for the team, and getting sleep, and grading papers, and setting up and breaking down the field. I'm guessing you never asked so you just assumed and thought the best way to feel included in the conversation was to talk out your ass.
Suz66 4 years ago
That's the way it was in my high school. The coaches were teachers and made very little. Perhaps some high schools do that but none when I was going there.
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Red Hair Blue Soul 4 years ago (edited)
Ummm...many high school coaches are volunteers and teach during the day
Shinyravengirl 4 years ago
The USA is ranked 27th in the world in education, shocked to learn this.
CultOfBambi 4 years ago
Not shocked at all, if that's true. I wouldn't be surprised if it were lower. I'm sure there are some great schools and lots of intelligent people over there but you would guess it from what's on TV, who gets elected and the fact that people put up with no national health service, the cost of college and university and the appalling lack of social care, paid holidays and a liveable minimum wage... It's in the government's best interest (whether Rep or Dem) to keep the people ignorant and accepting of the status quo. It's definitely heading that way in UK - and probably Europe too, if we're not careful.
Load More Replies... Carol Emory 4 years ago
That's like when WSU recently fired their coach for not following Washington State's Vaccine mandate for state employees. It was stated that he had a multimillion dollar contract buy out. I'm thinking "Why?"
Rebekah 4 years ago
Was just coming to say the same thing. Everyone here was all mad the "highest paid WA State employee" was fired. I was simply thinking: WTF is the highest paid WA State employee a damn football coach???
Load More Replies... Halle 4 years ago
Hi! Coach's kid here- my dad coached college ball NAIA and now coaches high school boy's basketball. I'd just like to point out that whoever said this has no idea how high school coaching works- and I'll tell you how. First of all, unless you're going to this insanely high class school (and I doubt you are, I think you're grossly uneducated about a coach and their family's life), you're actually getting paid very little. Plus, you teach as well- don't know what kind of high school/college you're going to where they don't. Plus, a lot of the kids, in basketball especially, aren't coming to school unless they have something to keep them grounded and passionate about. ALL coaches- whether it's high school coaching after school or college recruiting- are sacrificing their time way above their pay grade to put time into YOUR kids. Oftentimes the people playing won't have great home lives- they go to their coaches, and their sports. Also, you do have to be good, or you get fired.
Halle 4 years ago
It's a stressful job- you pour into other kids all day and you try to build a program and then you also have to find time for your own family. Think about that. Plus, coach's families move. A lot. It sucks.
Load More Replies...“The reason why CEOs can get paid so much is due to the direct correlation of the size of the company. When a company is worth hundreds of billions of dollars, it’s easier to pay a CEO tens of millions of dollars a year, which comprised mostly of stock options,” Sam said.
“At the end of the day, the CEO and the Board of Directors’ goal is to provide as much value and returns as possible for its shareholders. And if that means firing thousands of employees, then that is what they will do. It is a sad reality of extreme capitalism,” he shared.
#13
High ranking military officers.
From experience, I'd say a vast majority of the ones I've dealt with are just glorified politicians, who are nothing more than yes men for their next promotion.
After a certain point they're practically not even in the military anymore, they tend to have no concept of what's going on at the lowest levels whatsoever.
jk nbt 4 years ago
in the US, there is a revolving door from top-level military to a posh job in government to a consultant/lobbyist for the companies in the military-industrial complex and then back again around and around depending on the current administration... all at ridiculously high pay rates for what they do...
Chris Freeman 4 years ago
There is such a revolving door for everyone EXCEPT military officers. Once they leave they are gone. Maybe they could come back as a civilian, but never as an officer again.
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David Evans 4 years ago
The person who posted this obviously has never seen a military pay scale chart or what we actually get paid. The fact that they make less than 200K controlling thousands of personnel, decisions that can decide life or death, and rarely see home or their family. It's laughable that this is on the list. Please do your research before you put any military personnel in a lost of being overpaid. A CEO can make millions doing a tenth of the things our Senior Leadership does while only making 180k.
Miguel justino C 4 years ago
I’ve lived on multiple Army bases and it was sickening that the rank of Major to General have big houses, the enlisted are crammed into little apartments. Should be some middle ground instead of two extremes.
Heather G 4 years ago
Umm not quite. Lower enlisted (E1-E3) have to stay in barracks usually, but how is that any different than college dorms. Usually the lower enlisted are 18-21 years old. E4/E5 and up get a BAH which pays for fairly nice housing out in town (it's not taxable either). At least that's the case in the navy. I live in a very nice apartment in a pretty expensive city because the BAH changes depending on cost of living. Officers have to pay out of pocket (deeper pockets obviously) for housing.
Load More Replies... Chris Freeman 4 years ago
For disclosure, my cousin is a Brigadier General. I can tell you every single general in the service can make 4 times the money TOMORROW by quitting. By saying someone that has risen to the top 1% of all officers and is in command of tens of millions if not billions of dollars of annual budget is overpaid at about $180k is really living outside of reality.
Jana Boardman 4 years ago
What they make AFTER they retire is one thing. While in active service, the pay is not outrageous.
Richard Hunt 4 years ago
When they put on the Star ,they don't create Admirals or Generals ,they create Political Entities
#14
Estate agents. I’ve been trying to rent a house (UK) for 5 months now, during which time I’ve spoken to over 50 estate agents. I’m yet to receive a helpful, let alone grammatically correct email
Annnnd We’re Officially In Reverse 4 years ago
They're not easy to find, but a good one is worth every penny
Noel Benavente 4 years ago
I absolutely HATE that some people have high salaries but can't even write properly.
thefaithfulspouse 4 years ago
They earn their money by being helpful. The poster would pay them if they found them a place to live. You would think they would be motivated
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Christiana Kitty 4 years ago
This! The agent through which i bought my house didn’t bother to come to any of the showing, barely answered the phone, never knew the answer to any question, didn’t show up at the deal signing. Still got 2k out of it. I literally don’t know his face. They barely do any work and get immensely overpaid. Worst part is the agent had the entire area and i could barely find any house that was not sold through him. 1-2 tops in several months
Pat Bond 4 years ago
Demand far outstrips supply in the UK for housing. The London market is competitive to the point if you want to have a think about it, the next viewer will likely take it. The power is with the estate agent at present. The Government is aiming to build 300,000 new homes every year to match demand and keep housing costs affordable, but less than 250,000 were built last year, the highest rate in a decade. The deficit is over 1 million homes now.
Question everything 4 years ago
Maybe they wouldn't need to build so many new houses if they told those in council houses to move out and rent privately once they earn enough money. A council house should be a temporary arrangement. I might be wrong though and it's the private sector that's hogging the houses.
Load More Replies... ZAPanda 4 years ago
fortunately (here at least) there are sites you can sell your own house on. Unfortunately though they do charge quite a hefty percentage, but not as hefty as an estate agent. The main purpose or advantage of an estate agent, here, at any rate, is they vet potential buyers so you don't get a house robber coming to "look" at your house.
#15
Most jobs in the financial services industry; brokers, wholesalers, hedge fund managers, home lenders etc. all they do is trade money and bring little value to society.
Caro Caro 4 years ago (edited)
These people who do absolutely nothing for society should receive the small salaries. The cleaners, teachers, nurses and other proffessions that keep our society (and children) safe should make the big bucks.
Mazer 4 years ago
It isn’t true that they do nothing for society, they just don’t do anything for anyone but the 1%, who need them financial attorneys and accountants to screw the rest of us and keep them out of jail.
Load More Replies... ZAPanda 4 years ago
These jobs exist because the stock exchange exists. If you want it to end, you literally have to get rid of stock exchanges.
Richard Hunt 4 years ago
It's the same money going back and forth ,creating the illusion of wealth !!
#16
Anyone on Wall Street except unpaid interns.
Oskar vanZandt 4 years ago
They're technically gamblers... except it's others' money they gamble with. If the stock tanks, it's not these wall-street types who "lose their shirts".
Pat Bond 4 years ago
Spot on. There's every chance they will be managaing a fund that is linked to your pension.
Load More Replies... King Joffrey 4 years ago
I always said (pure wishful thinking) that the investment world would be a much better place if investment businesses were liable for any losses.
Rissie 4 years ago
Those unpaid interns will become paid employees. This kind of reasoning is not a particular sign of understanding what's wrong to begin with.
Ian Kelly 4 years ago
They’re saying the people who don’t get paid should t be paid less, you are the one who doesn’t seem to understand what’s wrong here
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Hedge fund managers and investment bankers. Even if it requires tons of skill and intelligence (which I don’t know if it does), making rich people richer using obscure financial instruments that don’t actually fund any production or innovation is not something we should reward by making people millionaires and billionaires.
Tom Susala 4 years ago
Especially that jerk Sam Zell who precipitated the demise of the Chicago Tribune and WGN Radio
beastmachine. 4 years ago
Full disclosure, I am a student who is studying financial engineering i.e. studying how these "obscure financial instruments" work and how to build these. First of all the field is extremely challenging and not even 0.1% of the population is intellectual capable of understanding the underlying principles. You need be just very good at understanding applied mathematics but also have the grasp of economics, finance as well as be at the bleeding edge of programming and computing. The hedge fund managers and investment bankers deserve the pay for their hard work. When you guys were just spending time "living your life to the fullest", we guys are spending 10+ hours every day to study and learn. Shouldn't this be rewarded? No one is stopping you from entering this field, open game for all. Just remember to work like a maniac to achieve your goal.
Question everything 4 years ago
Doctors and nurses study and work more than that and they can have your very life in their hands yet they don't take home millions every year. Also those that get on top in finance are those that don't care about others, we know majority are psychopaths.
Load More Replies... Oskar vanZandt 4 years ago
Those who make money by helping the (super) rich avoid paying taxes, or even a fair share, are NOT helping society... These super wealthy folks, hiding their money in off-shore accounts, stock-piling the wealth like demented capitalist squirrels so they can brag that they have the most capital should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. (But they're not because there are many psychopaths and sociopaths amongst them...)
Rissie 4 years ago
Oof, there's a middle ground between the extremes of today and well communism. Because you get that right? It's not this black and white.
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Life coaches
When my family moved cities when I was 5 our new neighbours had kids the same age as my sister and I so my dad wanted to meet them (he did not want his girls around weirdos). When he met the mother she asked what he does and vice versa. She told him she’s a life coach. His response was “what the hell is that?”. She stopped letting her kids play with us.
cybermerlin2000 4 years ago
Life Coach: Someone who gets paid to tell people what to do without actually telling them what to do
Kimi Tomminello 4 years ago
Say what you want, they're getting paid because someone is willing to pay them. I do have to say it is an invaluable tool for some trauma survivors during their first year in their own, though this is usually done by volunteers.
Tracy Lynn 4 years ago
I actually did this for a minute. My degree is interior design but I did ten weeks of cognitive behavior therapy for ADHD. It's a very frustrating job that doesn't really pay that great. AND coaches are so busy with other people's lives their own lives are a mess lol
Jim Wamsley 4 years ago
people get more out of their life coaches than they do out of their preachers.
#19
Everyone saying realtors. Wait til you find out about the guys at the desk job who REALLY make the money.
MORTGAGE LOAN OFFICERS.
Leo Domitrix 4 years ago
Actually, no. Like realtors, many mortgage loan officers work for commission, or they have a flat salary while sitting at the desk, an dit's not great pay. Nowhere near the six figures people imagine. Pay starts at 25K if you get a base salary at all. The *bank* makes the money!
madbakes 4 years ago
MLOs earn their entire salary based on commission. Most I have met work non-stop.
Kimi Tomminello 4 years ago
I have a family friend that's an MLO and the poor girl works 24/7 chasing down documents people haven't had the time to track down themselves in order to fax all the info needed to process the loan. Thank you for posting this first.
Load More Replies... J Robertson 4 years ago
I know a guy who makes $65,000 A MONTH! Not it a major city either. There's about 200k where I live now. Imagine them in a big city.
Pat Bond 4 years ago (edited)
In the UK, the mortgage broker gets a commission from whichever provider is chosen as the best fit for you. This is transparent and they will show you. At no point do you ever pay them a fee, if they ask for one walk away, it's illegal and report them. The estate agent you are buying through will ask you to sit with their advisor. Do not do this at all. They will run a hard credit check every time you do this with a new advisor, it's just not helpful and it may affect your credit score in the short term with a lot of hard checks in a short period of time, the advisor will get paid by the estate agent every time they do this.
SAF saf 4 years ago
During the Housing boom in the early 2000's I had a buddy who was in his early 20's get a loan officer position. No previous experience, no College education. Dude was pulling in 5 figure pay a month. Once the crash came he never really worked again. Our housing system needs a complete overhaul.
Alexis Draskinis 4 years ago
I worked in a mortgage company. Most got paid well but none (with exception of owner/boss) was living the rich life BUT it was a smaller firm. Nothing national
#20
So many higher management jobs. People with no actual skills bullying people with skills to do more with less. Firing them and investing in having the right tools to do the jobs every time would make nearly every company better. Once you are about two spaces removed from operations, you're completely useless.
ZAPanda 4 years ago
yes and no. I used to think this way till I was in management. Here are a few examples of what management do. (1) Decide on company strategy or division strategy. What are you going to focus on? What staffing and skillsets do you need? Which projects are you going to can? Do you have budget for the new project? What is a realistic rollout time? What is the target market? Will there be enough demand to cover salaries? etc. This is all done using statistical analyses. AKA what we call an MBA. (2) Staff are not working together as a team but are subtly conflicting and sabotaging each other in ways that can't quite be identified. They're not delivering on their jobs, just doing 'presentism' and coming to work. Identifying the problem and resolving it without threats, rather by using psychology. There's a research area called 'industrial psychology' which deals with this.
Rissie 4 years ago
And still most management is not very good at their job. I don't know of many that actual can interprete the necessary data, with or without an MBA. They do like to pretend the do.
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Jarrod Nichols 4 years ago (edited)
"People with no actual skills bullying people with skills." Funny you think making a widget is a skill. As an engineer who constantly fights to protect my customers from our workers, you are delusional. Then to think all high level managers were born into their positions is just ludicrous. By far, the most out of touch post on this site. You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Just a petulant child throwing a temper tantrum because he is one occurence from being fired.
#21
Cable news anchors. A few million dollars per year just to read a teleprompter.
Kristin Ingersoll 4 years ago
That's not actualyl all they do. They're WAY overpaid. But, having worked in the national news, they definitely do more than just read a teleprompter. Not as much as production assistants, of course! But more.
Miguel justino C 4 years ago
We’re all capable of doing it. My receding hair line and facial scars would scratch me from being any on air talent.
Load More Replies... Just me 4 years ago
Joe Biden is getting 400k/year by taxpayers to read a teleprompter rather poorly. At least news anchors aren't dipping into tax payer pockets to do so. I know I'm going to get downvoted into oblivion but I guess facts hit people differently. Also, I am fully aware he does more than just try to poorly read a teleprompter. He does after all, catch naps at global conferences, talk nonstop about Trump, push unconstitutional mandates, dismantle the borders, hide in Delaware, ignore reporter questions, lie about policies being considered by his administration... :) let the downvoting begin. Let's go Brandon.
Richard Hunt 4 years ago
They'd have to pay me over a million a year just to keep me from saying F*****G ASSHOLES and slamming my head on the teleprompter every 5 minutes in this Country !!!
SAF saf 4 years ago
Well let's be real here, they're getting paid for their genetics. That's why they're usually very attractive. Even the male anchors look like actors.
Miguel justino C 4 years ago
Go look at the Colorado meteorologists. Every channel has women that look ready for the club. Dark eye makeup tight dresses and blonde hair. We have 1 old dude named Ed Greene. He will be replaced by a blonde woman with no interest in weather
Load More Replies... Miguel justino C 4 years ago
Makes me think of Hoda from the today show. She is so over the top happy it’s annoying. Probably thinking of her million dollar paychecks
Miguel justino C 4 years ago
Who downvoted this. I live in the middle of the Rocky Mountains and the meteorologist says 50% chance of snow. Could be 20 inches they say. Then we wake up too a half inch. All the time. They have plausible deniability. They didn’t know a western storm would come in and make their predictions wrong.
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#22
Political commenters. They should have to pay us to listen to their propagandist drivel.
Chucky Cheezburger 4 years ago
Yep...and there's bull on both sides. Republican or Democrat, they are just opposite sides of the same corrupt coin.
Tim Pillinger 4 years ago
If some were worse the worse ones would be pleased that you think so.
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#23
Edu-celebrities.
They are the people who spent two years in the classroom, couldn't handle it, then started some online blog/following with some appealing catchphrase. They get paid $3000+ per speaking gig that districts fork up and force teachers to listen to.
Claire Stanfield 4 years ago
This sounds jealous. Also, many people are terrified of public speaking - why not let the people who want to do it get paid what they're worth?
butthurtAmerican 4 years ago
Sorry, but I do some public speaking, and if I have to go international the $3K per gig doesn't go far (and I've never got that much). Factor in that they usually only pay you for one night's accommodation, there is no way I'm going to fly half way around the world for one night. I have to fly many days in advance to get over the jetlag so I can do a decent job. That means hotel and food costs eat up most or all, or often even more than all of what I'm going to get paid. Most of them I actually lose money on. Sure, if it's local, then I would make more money, but it's rarely local, and if it is, they know that so pay me way less. The amount of time put into making a great, unique presentation is at least a week for an hour talk. Add to that the years it takes to build a reputation and it's not overpaid at all. It's like saying a top graphic artist is overpaid because the logo they made they came up with for 2 hours' work. It's not the 2 hours, it's the 20 in experience you pay for.
CanadianaKa 4 years ago
3k? Bwahaha. A classmate of mine from uni wrote some self-help book vaguely related to social consciousness in regards to the environment, i think. When his speaker's bureau reached out to me about repping him, they wanted $20,000 for him to make a 45-minute speech.
#24
Rappers
ZAPanda 4 years ago
any musician who has made the big time is probably overpaid, not just rappers.
Miguel justino C 4 years ago
I don’t know if the word musician applies here
Load More Replies... Jaybird3939 4 years ago
I always think it's terrible that people who open their mouths and make pretty sounds come out are paid millions. Teachers, first responders, anyone who keeps day to day life running, should be at the top of the pay scale, not someone with good rhythm.
#25
Home inspectors charge hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars to miss obvious flaws in the home you're about to purchase.
Worthless as tits on a boar.
Chucky Cheezburger 4 years ago
HAA!!! This is the only time I've seen someone else use "Worthless as tits on a boar" I like you sir/madam...
Memere 4 years ago
As a farmer's daughter, I grew up hearing that one, and many other sayings like it! One of my favorites is "they couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel".
Load More Replies... Kendra Miller 4 years ago
Home inspectors can actually be very helpful. Yes there is an upfront cost, but it can really save when you're dealing with 200,000+ purchase. For example my inspector found my attic filled with cellulose which had to be replaced as it's a fire hazard. There were a couple things like that, that I was then able to take to tye seller. We figured out the cost of hiring someone to do the work and material and then had that taken off the purchase price. We then fixed the stuff ourselves ;) I think my home inspector saved me something like 5,000 and he cost about 900. Good deal if I say so. House ended up costing 190,000 instead of 195,000.
Memere 4 years ago
When we bought our home, we requested the inspection through our real estate agent & it was paid for by the seller. And when we knew who the inspector was going to be, we checked their references. Maybe we were lucky, but the inspector was great, and he only charged 300 bucks. Sounds to me like this person got screwed.
Seadog 4 years ago
Keep in mind, building inspectors hardly even glance at work done by contractors. I'm currently renovating a 1920 bungalow and the building inspector comes anytime I'm ready for him to inspect work or anytime I have a question. My house however was built by licensed contractors and recently when replacing a light/fan inside an enclosed shower I discovered the ground was never hooked up. GFI won't work if the ground isn't even hooked up. During a kitchen reno we found a hidden junction point (pretty sure that's illegal everywhere) and we won't get into how many violations there are in the breaker box. Yet the inspector found nothing wrong with their work. My point is, if the building inspector passed it to begin with, why should a home inspector be concerned with it even though it might get someone killed.
Elizabeth Calvert 4 years ago
What's worse is the contract typically won't allow you to sue for them missing something
Beautifulnoodle 4 years ago
And if you've ever had a home inspection before you bought a house all over the paperwork as we are not responsible for anything. Bought my house had an inspection and said everything was good fine and dandy then to find out when my furnace went out that it was installed backwards and upside down.
Seabeast 4 years ago (edited)
Meh, I've been glad I've hired house inspectors. One guy openly told me the house wasn't worth buying, another found a problem in the attic that was definitely not obvious. But you shouldn't pay thousands - $350 CAD was the norm the last time I went house-hunting.
#26
Recruiters. Seriously, quite a few recruiters have salaries well into the triple digits while the people they are recruiting for big companies hardly make $40K
Kimi Tomminello 4 years ago
I supposed we're to assume they mean six figures (?)
Load More Replies... Paul Davis 4 years ago
I have heard a lot about how useless recruiting companies really are. Only relied on by lazy or ignorant company managers.
Hugo Raible 4 years ago
"Hey, this is Linda, she's with us one year now and doing great, here is a Rolex to show our appreciation" Seen on linkedin. Tech recruiters get 15-20% of a six-figure salary when they place you somewhere. For more or less keyword matching and forwarding your CV. (Some do work a bit for their money though)
More Thinking Needed 4 years ago
Recruiters are a dying breed. The internet, with sites like LinkedIn, Monster, and Indeed are what companies use most.
#27
Rehab/treatment center owners. A lot of them are scumbags, especially in Florida.
Mazer 4 years ago
Once addiction was labeled a disease, it attracted hundreds of greedy scum puppies who will actually take addicts to get drugs to avoid having to deal with the physical withdrawal symptoms. They all ought to be taken down.
Stephanie Ventura-Montalvo 4 years ago
The real scam is 30 day programs for opioid addiction. I, personally, don't know a single soul who kicked heroin after 30 days in rehab. The only ones I know who managed to stay sober for longer than 2 years did a minimum of 6 months. 30 day rehabs bank on the revolving door system of people constantly going back in.
Suz66 4 years ago
What's awful is the lack of funding for people to get into rehab. If you don't have insurance in our area, there's a 12 week waiting list to get in to the govt funded rehabs . The majority of addicts don't have insurance or money. Unless they commit a crime
Suz66 4 years ago
They are fast-tracked if you commit a crime but otherwise you wait.
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#28
Superintendents. It’s solely political and ridiculous how much they get paid compared to the teachers they’re over.
Kirsten Kerkhof 4 years ago
I have to disagree here. I am a teacher and when I see the absolute sh*t the principals have to deal with regarding parents, governments, outside businesses, and the students themselves, they can have the extra few bucks. I'm nowhere near envious.
King Joffrey 4 years ago
Not sure where you live but in the US a superintendent is more like a CEO of a school district. Way more senior than a school principal.
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Agnes Jekyll 4 years ago
I don't know if this is what you are talking about, but we have had an explosion of management in our education systems in the last ten years: university and colleges. As far as I can tell, they do very little but run from meeting to meeting and create more bureaucracy for teachers. They are not paid very well, and except for the highest positions, it is a thankless, horrible job, which is probably why there are few who are qualified and competent. It's a real problem. I think MIT is the only university to have staved off this management influx--but phD programs now tell their graduates to go into management, as the lives of university profs are so untenable.
ZAPanda 4 years ago
disagree with this one. Our teachers are generally demotivated and their output quality is amongst the lowest in the world. We used to have supes who came to check, but since that fell away the quality has gone way down. Our supes - who don't do fieldwork anymore due to union pressure - are paid about double a teacher salary, which isn't really excessive.
#29
The guy who names pixar movies. Got like a $12,000 raise for "Cars"
cybermerlin2000 4 years ago
The guy who proposed Vrooom! isn't bitter though
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Leodavinci 4 years ago
Tell me you know nothing about Pixar without actually telling me you know nothing about Pixar.
#30
Car salesmen. I’d rather just order online. I don’t own or want a Tesla, but I LOVE their sales model.
albernistuff 4sale 4 years ago
If you are willing to spend huge $$ on something like this without examining it in person, or having a qualified 3rd party do it, then you will get the lemon with the sciatica-inducing seats you deserve.....
J Robertson 4 years ago
I sell cars. I'm now in the F&I department. I work for an auto group that's been in the same family of the original dealership for nearly a hundred years. Are there bad people out there? Yes. Of course. But we are human. We do have feelings.
Walter Brameld 4 years ago
Dealerships don't want to sell electric cars because a lot of their revenue comes from maintenance. Electric cars just don't need much maintenance.
Tom Susala 4 years ago
The Finance and Insurance guys are the real bad guys here. Even if you have a credit score of 750+, they'll try to back you into a high rate so they can make a huge commission off your usurious loan.
J Robertson 4 years ago
FALSE. I'm in F&I. We don't set the interest rates, the banks do. Period. Your credit score isn't the only factor. What's your debt to income like? What's the most you've ever financed before? If you're a 750, make $3k a month, you have $1200 in bills going out, and only have a $500 credit card and student loans on your credit report and asking a bank to loan you $30-50k with no money down. The banks are going to charge you a higher rate because they're taking a bigger risk on you. It's not the dealerships. It's the banks. In today's day and age it's all transparent.
Load More Replies... Chucky Cheezburger 4 years ago
Car salespeople on the up and up are hard to find, but they are out there. I would buy again from the place my wife and I bought the latest car from.
M O'Connell 4 years ago
I have had numerous negative experiences with salespeople across all consumer-facing fields when it involved salespeople working on commission: half-truths, unrealistic promises, meaningless 'personal assurances' etc. On the flip-side, I have had positive experiences working with salaried salespeople.
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#31
Everyone at every layer of health insurance professions and any government job that never does any work because there hasn’t been an audit in a decade.
#32
Entire marketing and advertising industry.
Paul Davis 4 years ago
The marketing people I worked with spent 95% of their time stealing the ideas of other marketing people. They seemed to have zero imagination or skill.
Noel Benavente 4 years ago
...and yet there is a position called "Creative Director"
Load More Replies... Barbara L Bristow 4 years ago
It's hard for me to believe that advertising does anything except cost all of us millions of dollars everyday. I watch as few as possible on tv..most are extremely stupid
Tom Susala 4 years ago
AMEN It all revolves around self-image, ego and libido. 99% of auto ads can be summed up as, "Buy this car and get LAID!"
#33
HR, you basically sit on your a*s all day figuring ways out to justify your job (must of which ends up as a pain in the ass for the rest of the staff)
ZAPanda 4 years ago
So here we have strong labour laws and HR is usually more scary for the managers than the staff, because HR have to enforce those labour laws.
Spankathon 4 years ago
HR Departments are basically parasites who definitely did not want to work in HR when they were at school.
Carol Emory 4 years ago
Actually, HR puts up with a lot of BS from the workers. If the company makes a new policy that basically sucks, everyone complains to HR. They also deal with petty office disputes and constant whining. Not to mention going through interviews for new positions. I once applied for a job where the HR person told me she had 130 positions open and 3500 people applied. Guess who gets to sift through all that crap.
DennyS (denzoren) 4 years ago (edited)
I work in HR and while that might add bias, I have tons of work every day. I have to ensure we conform to all the relevant labor laws, I have to deal with disciplinary matters and make sure no one is fired wrongly, I have to roll our training and I am also tasked with most of the operations. You aren't supposed to have any interactions with HR unless you're doing something wrong. My rule is I should only see you when I hire you, when you have training, performance appraisals or leaving.
#34
Intelligence and security contracting. An equivalent role in the military or intelligence community pays half as much as what private industry pays.
Leo Domitrix 4 years ago
Loyalty isn' tloyalty if it's for sale. ---- my uncle, a security contractor
#35
I work in digital marketing as an account manager. All I do is respond to emails and Skype people all day. I make over $100k a year just relaying stuff in emails and Skypes. We generate leads off co-registration sites like the c**p where you can win a gift card if you spin the wheel then answer a million questions and your data is sold 10 times. It's all bulls**t and I have no idea why it pays so much.
Walter Brameld 4 years ago
I stared at "c**p" way to long trying to figure out why it was a p instead of a t. Do they seriously bleep out "c r a p"?
#36
Mine.
I have been working for three years and I’m not entirely sure what I do. Sometimes I write code. Mostly I sit in meetings where I say nothing. But I work for the government so I’m pretty safe from being fired or let go.
Definitely the most I’ve ever been paid for the least work.
M O'Connell 4 years ago
You almost sound like that guy who fell through the cracks during a corporate merger who punches in and just walks around with a clipboard all day.
#37
liability attorneys. They collect huge hourly fees or commissions and don't do anything productive. They just move money from one party to another.
Miguel justino C 4 years ago
I was part of the ear plug lawsuit against 3M for hearing loss in combat. I was going along with it until I asked about their payout. They take 60% and the soldiers get 40. Absolute leeches. Their paralegals acted super sympathetic and understanding, all an act.
BaconBenchPress616 4 years ago
My dad is part of that and remains hopeful it will be a big pay day for him. 25+ years US Army hoping for a payout.
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Mine. I’m a welders helper. I make $36.21 an hour to sit there and occasionally grind something with an angle grinder. I also unpack and pack up tools at the start and end of the day. That’s pretty well my entire job. One day last year I got paid over $1600 to do absolutely nothing. No on call. No “maybe something will need to get done later”. Just sit on your phone for 12 straight hours
M O'Connell 4 years ago
They're paying for your time when you have the appropriate training and skills. High pay also ensures retention in a competitive field. Would you rather they send you home without pay because there was nothing for you to do?
#39
Me. I make $100k to manage a small team. They do all the work and I just sign off on some decisions every couple weeks. Everyone loves me because all the work they do and I watch YouTube/Reddit all day.
Mazer 4 years ago
I hope these ultra wealthy people put funds and work back into the community.
Chris Freeman 4 years ago
"Ultrawealthy"? $100k a year you believe is "ultrawealthy" especially in the US? IN areas where half the US population lives $100k a year gets you a small apartment and a crappy car with little to no savings.
Load More Replies... Susie Elle 4 years ago
This sounds vaguely like my manager at my previous job. All he did was form a barrier between me and the teamleader, whom I actually had things to discuss with, which slowed down communication tremendously. I'll never forget how he worked on a projectschedule for me and another coworker for weeks on end, complaining how much work it was, meanwhile my teamleader was doing the exact same thing. In the end I never saw my manager's schedule finished. He made at least double the amount I did, which he partly deserved because of his qualifications, but man was his job a scam.
#40
Lawyers.
wv10014 4 years ago
4 years of undergraduate studies, 3 years of graduate studies (in the U.S.) not to mention requirements of continuing legal education... overpaid-? Then do the work yourself!
Nikki Sevven 4 years ago
People are generally pretty bad at valuing services versus products. Products are tangible; services are not...except for the results.
More Thinking Needed 4 years ago
Ask anybody who used a lawyer for an injury settlement, a divorce, when accused of a crime. Worth every dime.
#41
Some therapists. I know that therapy is very important and some therapists are incredible at what they do and have to endure working through their patients’ horrible traumas. But some therapists should not work in that field and make things legitimately worse while getting paid an arm and a leg.
wv10014 4 years ago
Therapists get paid very, very little in the U.S. and also are not given the respect they deserve for doing a very tough job. My therapist has saved my life many times over.
Kimi Tomminello 4 years ago
Mine too. She won't even take my copay when I'm strapped for cash. The gap is wide though- the first 2 therapists I tried were in it for nothing but money. Glad you found yours!!
Load More Replies... Ozacoter 4 years ago
Exactly. My ex psychiatrist earns 90 euros an hour. All to tell me that I am not really chronically ill or in pain, that I just need more antidepressants and exercise. I tried therapy thrice and I got tired of the f*****g gaslighting. Most therapists are extremely ableist, most chornic patients I have met say the same.
Jo 4 years ago
I can guarantee that regardless of what the session ‘cost’ the client the therapist gets paid a minuscule amount of that….
ZAPanda 4 years ago
not true here. Our psychologists are paid about $100 per hour and they get 100% of it.
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Rachknits 4 years ago
Not in the UK. I have had as much education as a doctor (3 years undergraduate, 4 years postgraduate, 3 years clinical training and that's just the basic part before you then go for the supervision and client hours and personal therapy) yet I'm paid a fraction of what a doctor earns (nb, this is for professional membership which isn't necessary as UK therapists aren't statutorily regulated so if you want a therapist make sure they belong to a professional body)
Mazer 4 years ago
I met a Psychiatrist, she had brought her car in for repairs. She was busted for prescribing a patient opioids, the patient was found wandering the streets high on drugs. As a result, the Psychiatrist was getting her license reviewed, it was in the papers. She and her daughter lived on the outskirts of a bad neighborhood and constantly dealing with peeping toms, she never thought of moving, just brushed it off. Then she came into the mechanics garage and announced she was gay, that she had known something was different since childhood but couldn’t put her finger on it, which is why she went into Psychiatry. Best dressed Craziest women i ever met
#42
The Philippine National Police
Paul Davis 4 years ago
What they work very hard creating false walls in their precinct buildings to keep kidnapped innocents for ransom in. And blackmailing people on fake drug charges for cash. And the list goes on. Just hard, hard workers.
#43
Software developers, and I am one.
Seriously, I work like 2 hours a day and get paid nearly 6 figures
J. F. 4 years ago
Hey, how much training was necessary to get to that point? Also how important is the software, does it control medical hardware or someting like that?
SykesDaMan 4 years ago
And it's not the same for everyone. I used to be (and still know a lot of them) a developer who really worked the whole day and often times more. It depends where you "fall"...
Load More Replies... Matthew Zornig 4 years ago
I worked as a software developer for 25 years. If you are only working 2 hours a day, you are worthless
Tamra Stiffler 4 years ago
Agreed. My husband is a software developer and hasn't worked "just" an 8 hour day in 15 years. 10+ hr days are common for him.
Load More Replies... cybermerlin2000 4 years ago
That's because it's a specialist field. How many people out there can honestly say they can program code worth a damn to make a useful app? Not many I bet
Claire Stanfield 4 years ago
It's what it's worth to the people paying you. Artists have to fight all the time on pricing - 'why does it cost so much for 3 hours of work?' '...Because you're paying for my experience/skills/talent that narrows it down to only 3 hours of work'.
Chris Freeman 4 years ago
You are not overpaid. It takes skill to get there. If they pay you $100k and make $300k off your 2 hours a day work, the company profits. Just saying though, if you worked for yourself and put in full 8 hour days maybe you could make even more. Think about it.
ZAPanda 4 years ago
this one it depends where you work. Some are drastically underpaid. If you're a developer and the company you're working for makes its money from software, you aren't overpaid, unless you earn significantly more than the CEO. A software company depends entirely on developers, without them there is no product. In fact, any company offering apps or SAAS must pay their devs well because without them they do not exist.
Kevin Wright 4 years ago (edited)
Not for long... If you want to maintain a career as a software engineer then you have to be learning *constantly*. A lot of what you're paid for is the time investment to acquire that knowledge in the first place and to then keep it relevant. If you're not considering your time learning to be "work" then you're selling yourself short.
Bored Panda 4 years ago
I'm a senior software engineer. Sometimes I work really intensely for 10-12 hours a day for a few days in a row, and sometimes I am basically sitting around waiting for others because I can't go any further without their part. But I'll need to jump in intensely again as soon as I get that thing.
John Smith 4 years ago
Speak for yourself. I am a software developer. I earn just enough to live and work 10+ hours most days.
Bored Panda 4 years ago
Depending on the languages you specialize in, the market is exploding right now. And with 100% remote work, the world is your oyster if you're really good. Consider looking into different languages or different industries.
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Sander 4 years ago
Don't get too comfortable. The job market for developers will collapse eventually and only the people who actually know what they are doing will be left over. That's why I'm learning C++ on the side and try to hone my actual engineering skills instead of only produce some meh React/Node stuff.
Bored Panda 4 years ago
hee hee! Go ahead and make a whole app - end to end - with C++. It's great for what it is, but not the "wonder language".
Load More Replies... #44
Consultants. I get paid too much money to make pivot tables and PowerPoint decks.
Tom Susala 4 years ago
A consultant is a Salesman who can't get along in a corporate environment....
M O'Connell 4 years ago
We contract with several engineering consultants where I work. They are invaluable because we can pay a consultant who is an expert in their field, has tons of experience, and all the necessary tools for a few hours a week (writing software for FPGAs, for instance). It may cost a fortune, but it brings more value than spending the same amount of money to hire someone to work in-office who comes from the bottom of the barrel of qualifications.
#45
'Creatives' at ad agencies. These are among the least creative people I work with on a regular basis.
#46
College administrators specifically high level ones - dept head level
Samantha Lomb 4 years ago
If they think "department head" is high level admin in colleges they are sadly mistaken
butthurtAmerican 4 years ago
Yeah, and usually the department heads are just regularly faculty rotated in and out, with no more pay than the regular faculty.
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Renae Dougherty 4 years ago
college and university staff don't make good money until they reach director or VP level.
#47
As a bartender I must say: bartenders. I pour drinks. I should be paid a livable wage by my boss, but no, I just kiss ass to rich people and make $500 a night to literally destroy lives. Have it your way society.
Poultry Geist 4 years ago
You also have to deal with drunk people ! I hate drunk people unless I’m drunk then they are fine :)
SAF saf 4 years ago
Bartenders pay is based on dealing with drunk people. Plus you're liable if someone is overserved (here in the U.S.). You ever try cutting off an alcoholic at last call? This particular bar tender might be over paid but most aren't.
Load More Replies... CultOfBambi 4 years ago
Don't sell yourself short! In my book, you're an essential worker. :) I also suspect that not all bartenders do as well as that.
Don Pe 4 years ago
And probably how you fit into the genereated beauty standards...
Load More Replies... #48
Do we consider being a landlord a profession?
Ozacoter 4 years ago
Depends on what landlord. A woman renting her deaths mum apartment to get extra income? No. Thats a normal person. A corporation having hundreds of flats and artificially inflating the prices? Monsters.
John Baker 4 years ago
No, we don't, and I agree rent, especially in bigger cities, is often outrageous, but look at it from the landlord's point of view. He's responsible for maintenance, repairs, property taxes (which are also outrageously high in some places) and any and all other expenses, expected or unexpected, related to the property. If he can't set the rent high enough to cover all the things he has to pay for plus make a little profit, what's the point in renting the place at all?
Kimi Tomminello 4 years ago
I agree if it's just a person renting out their own property, but when it comes to the multimillion dollar property management slumlords driving people out of their apartments by jacking up rent and refusing to do maintenance on order to bulldoze the neighborhood and jack up the entire neighborhood- that's where I have a problem. These jerks are trouble for your regular property owned rentals as well.
Load More Replies... #49
One night I babysat three kids for about 2 hours or so. The kids went to bed when I got there, and the parents had left dinner out for me, so all I did was eat their food and watch their TV and pet their dogs. When they got home the mom paid me $100. I told her that was way too much. She slurred "Don't worry about it, I'm drunk." And then I noticed her fly was down. So that was the most over paid job ever lol.
Oskar vanZandt 4 years ago
I don't think babysitters usually earn $50.-/hour? I would think $20.-/hr for two sleeping children would be plenty!
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My last job in college, before starting my career. I was an overnight shelter staff for transitional housing. Since these clients were basically back up on their feet by the time they arrived, they were pretty self-sufficient. I was paid about 25% higher than other night-shift jobs I could get at the time, and on most nights all I had to do was make one pot of coffee. The rest of the time I could watch TV, play video games, do personal chores, etc… The one job that I know was better was their overnight sleeper, since we had to have two staff at all times. As implied, this dude made a well-above minimum wage rate to just sleep there on the weekends
Helen Haley 4 years ago
They do this because general populace is going to transitional housing, and think danger. That is why it is paid more, it is the only way to keep it staffed.
#51
Nurse practitioners in the US. Seriously, they make 6 figures after doing online degrees which barely cover the clinical or educational rigor of physicians but are then used by health admins to bill for physicians services while paying them a fraction of a physician. The end result? health corps make more money while patient outcomes are questionable at best.
Tim Pillinger 4 years ago
Other way round in the UK. They are basically doctors who get paid less.
madbakes 4 years ago
Same in the US. This poster doesn't know what they're talking about.
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Andy Evans 4 years ago
My daughter is a nurse. I've never seen someone work so hard! I'd rather see a nurse practitioner than primary any day.
Paul Davis 4 years ago
I disagree. Nurse practitioners generally have a lot of hands-on experience with patient care that doctors don't have. And in the U.S. they take their time working with you instead of showing up an hour into your appointment barely knowing your name, and running off again in 10 minutes after barely thinking about your problem like the doctors do because doctors have to grind that money machine so hard all day long.
Leo Domitrix 4 years ago
Let's focus more on taking profit out of the equation entirely, to save patients, please.
Miguel justino C 4 years ago
Let’s do one on the underpaid. I know everyone screams living wage but some jobs that are salary require a lot more hours than the hourly employees. I think of the Military, in Iraq we would work 20 hours a day for weeks sometimes. A private at that rate is about 3$ an hour. Getting shot at and no tips.
Nikki Sevven 4 years ago
What horrendously unregulated country are you from? In the US, you need a BS in nursing (to become an RN), at least an MS if not a PhD, and to pass the state boards to be licensed. So it's at least six years of schooling, plus practicum.
What do you think ?
Biba Little 4 years ago
I don't know about all these, but it's really horrible to me that there are people in the world who have literally billions, while millions of people are starving. No one needs billions of dollars, no one! No one deserved billions of dollars! No one needs 7 houses each with 24 rooms! No one can in honest way without hurting hundreds of people earn that much money. I just don' trust overly ridiculously rich people.
Noway 4 years ago
Too bad they own the legislative systems so they're untouchable!
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Susie Elle 4 years ago
To me, it's definitely influencers. Some Dutch 19-year-olds earn a day more than I earn a year. They're talking about buying a second house in the South or something while I get the impression they know next to nothing about actually owning a property let alone one abroad, while all they do is make 10-minute videos of them wearing expensive clothing that they're somehow paid for.
Nia Loves Art 4 years ago
I am concerned about people being underpaid, not overpaid. If someone is making lots of money good for them.
BorPand8 4 years ago
Mostly agree, especially in the entertainment industry. Nobody has to buy entertainment. When necessities get out-of-reach expensive because people are hugely overpaid, then it's time to worry.
Load More Replies... Oskar vanZandt 4 years ago
Rather than many people working in all sorts of jobs being overpaid, I think the real issue is that many more are under-paid. And the value of money is also relative: £1000.- a week might sound like a lot but considering the extortionate rents/mortgages in quite a few areas in the UK, that £1000.- doesn't get you very far. Where I live most people are low-paid workers who pay less than £600/mo rent or £500 mortgage. For us £1000 a week is a very good wage.
Emmie Jensen 4 years ago
I think most people can agree the politicians and athletes are overpaid, but the rest? Idk.
Pungent Sauce 4 years ago (edited)
“Average salary” of $53K is $27/hr, just for reference. From my perspective, that’s a heckuva lot of money 😅
BorPand8 4 years ago
The average isn't the same as the mean though. If you have one person making $100,000 an hour and 99 people making $1 an hour, the average is $1000.99 -- which doesn't give you an idea of the reality at all.
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Biba Little 4 years ago
I don't know about all these, but it's really horrible to me that there are people in the world who have literally billions, while millions of people are starving. No one needs billions of dollars, no one! No one deserved billions of dollars! No one needs 7 houses each with 24 rooms! No one can in honest way without hurting hundreds of people earn that much money. I just don' trust overly ridiculously rich people.
Noway 4 years ago
Too bad they own the legislative systems so they're untouchable!
Load More Replies... Susie Elle 4 years ago
To me, it's definitely influencers. Some Dutch 19-year-olds earn a day more than I earn a year. They're talking about buying a second house in the South or something while I get the impression they know next to nothing about actually owning a property let alone one abroad, while all they do is make 10-minute videos of them wearing expensive clothing that they're somehow paid for.
Nia Loves Art 4 years ago
I am concerned about people being underpaid, not overpaid. If someone is making lots of money good for them.
BorPand8 4 years ago
Mostly agree, especially in the entertainment industry. Nobody has to buy entertainment. When necessities get out-of-reach expensive because people are hugely overpaid, then it's time to worry.
Load More Replies... Oskar vanZandt 4 years ago
Rather than many people working in all sorts of jobs being overpaid, I think the real issue is that many more are under-paid. And the value of money is also relative: £1000.- a week might sound like a lot but considering the extortionate rents/mortgages in quite a few areas in the UK, that £1000.- doesn't get you very far. Where I live most people are low-paid workers who pay less than £600/mo rent or £500 mortgage. For us £1000 a week is a very good wage.
Emmie Jensen 4 years ago
I think most people can agree the politicians and athletes are overpaid, but the rest? Idk.
Pungent Sauce 4 years ago (edited)
“Average salary” of $53K is $27/hr, just for reference. From my perspective, that’s a heckuva lot of money 😅
BorPand8 4 years ago
The average isn't the same as the mean though. If you have one person making $100,000 an hour and 99 people making $1 an hour, the average is $1000.99 -- which doesn't give you an idea of the reality at all.
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