“Chicken Wings, Nobody Should Be Paying $2 Per Wing”: 30 Things People Can No Longer Afford
InterviewGrandparents love to brag about how inexpensive a chocolate bar was “back in their day” or how little they paid for their first home. And in a perfect world, it wouldn’t really matter how much prices had increased because our salaries would inflate on the same scale. But as we all know, that’s just not the case today.
Costs of living are soaring all over the planet, and it seems like every year, things that were once basic necessities or little treats are turning into luxuries reserved only for the rich. Redditors have recently been discussing some of these things that have become unattainable for most of us, so we’ve gathered some of their thoughts below.
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Health care. Dental visits. Glasses.
Many would but the cost to emigrate in many countries requires being rich. For example to emigrate to Australia one must have at least $500,000 in savings.
Load More Replies...Pretty bad in the UK right now for dental and healthcare. Long waiting lists and strikes etc, completely under-staffed. Still extremely grateful that it's free though.
Load More Replies...I have vision insurance and still can't afford new glasses. I'm nearing 50 so I definitely need a new Rx.
Whoever decided that I gotta pay for dental or eye care when the rest of our healthcare is basically free can take a long walk off a short pier... (You wonder why people joke that us Brits have bad teeth, you're not far off lads)
Dental in Germany is not free either. At least not things like fake teeth etc. Going to the dentist is still free, so no reason to have bad teeth.
Load More Replies...A few years ago finishing up high school I could barely see the board because I couldn’t get glasses
I had to go to a dental town on the U.S./Mexico border in Arizona for treatment. The estimate for my work in the U.S. was more than my car. (But I got some great work from Mexico!)
Tickets for events.
I still wistfully look at my $3 ticket stub when I saw Jimi Hendrix on my 17th birthday in 1968. Saw Janis Joplin in 1969 and the ticket price had increased to $4.50.
My friend booked me and him tickets for a couple of metal shows. The 2 shows will cost me £50 for both. I am seeing AC/DC in the summer. That was pricy but I don’t think they will be touring again after this run.
I remember when I saw Eric Clapton in the 80's for $20.00, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Jimmie Buffet, so many in the 80's even in the ninties, Van Halen I think wa $35.00. So sad what it has come today. last concernt was Joan Jett, Poison, MOtely Crue and Def Leopard in 2022, that was $99.00 but I saw four band!!
I paid $15 to see the Rolling Stones in 1981. Yesterday I saw tickets for $17,000!!!
European tickets less expensive than USA, but big festivals still get expensive. Not all events and not all festivals/concerts, most are still very affordable. Im not rich and attend a lot of gigs/events every year.
I went to go see a local artist who wasn’t very well known at all a few months ago, tickets were $50 🥲
Load More Replies...AC/DC - 1978 - $7.00. The Eagles - at scalper's prices for the 6th-row center - $35.00 (but I caught a guitar pick!). Kenny Chesney 1996 - $5.00.
And the handling charge . . . you want me to pay an extra $20 - $100 just because you handed it to me across a counter?
A house
Had I not bought years ago I could never have had a home. Even rent here is almost out of reach and I make a decent wage. So sad to swe.
Back in the 80s and 90s a home typically cost 2 to 3 times the average annual salary. Today it's more like 10X.
Load More Replies...I live in North Dakota and even the house prices here are stupid.
We could always have managed mortgage and maintenance. The downpayment was impossible for many years.
I inherited my home nearly 3 years ago. It was listed as worth $85K. I am now getting offered to buy my home for $179K. My sister just sold her home. Bought it for $17K in 1977. Just sold for $197K.
To find out how this conversation started in the first place, we reached out to Reddit user Dash_Weh_Dat, who posed the question, "What was affordable 50 years ago that now only the rich can buy?” They were kind enough to have a chat with Bored Panda and share what inspired them to start this thread.
"Well, I was having a discussion with some millennial and Gen Z friends at a housewarming party (it's a rental by the way)," the OP said. "A friend showed us pictures she took while she was on vacation in California with her parents at her grandparent's country home. We noticed that they were extremely well off."
Groceries.
Depends on country and buying habits. 1975 people too had to be smart with their money.
My bi-weekly grocery trip used to run me about $150, or about $300 for the month. That was just after the COVID restrictions started. Now? A mere 4 years later? Well over $200 - and it's necessities only instead of whatever we wanted. Birthdays and holidays are a real financial crunch right now.
Load More Replies...Only rich people can afford food? Nonsense. Poor people in my neighborhood still manage to afford $20 a day for a six-pack of beer and a pack of cigarettes. And if only rich people can afford to buy groceries, why aren’t people dropping dead on our streets in mass numbers due to starvation?
More and more people needing to access food banks shows that they are struggling to buy the essentials. Where I live, you couldn't even get beer and cigarettes for that price (more than $20 for a pack of cigs, with the tax on them).
Load More Replies...most certainly depends on country and area. Just came back from the market in Belgium with a weeks worth of vegetables for 5 euro. But then again i dont live in a food desert in the USA.
What the hell do you know about food deserts in the USA?
Load More Replies..."Someone asked her if her family had always been wealthy. She said her grandfather worked as a factory manager, and his grandmother was a housewife," Dash_Weh_Dat continued. "They managed to save up for a house and a vacation home 5 hours away. Eventually they moved to the country home and sold their first house for six figures."
"One income managed to get them all that. While we are struggling to make ends meet, we have to sometimes take out loans. 50 years ago, it seemed you only needed a regular job, save up for 2-5 years and pay for a house in cash. Try doing that today even on a manager's salary," they told Bored Panda.
University tuition.
In the UK I think it’s about £9000per year. However you have to be earning over a certain amount before you start paying it back.
The problem is the interest rate is so high it never gets paid back unless you make significant overpayments each month
Load More Replies...When I was attending I don't remembering paying anything? Well books, rent, food and that usual things..
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Uh, life.
*Vaguely gestures*
I've arranged with a state medical school to use my cadaver however they wish. When they're done, they will cremate my remains and send them to my family, who will spread my ashes in an approved area. No cost to my family or whatever estate I'm able to leave. Family knows my wishes, and I carry a card from the university that has all information. The university's letter is in my personal effects. Bases are covered.
Stay at home Mom with a family that has food security, social activities, and family vacations.
If you and your partner agree and you both can afford it then that's ok. For most of us it's unaffordable.
I think that's the point of it being included. Only very wealthy families can afford to live comfortably on a single income.
Load More Replies...Name three countries where it's widely available as an option then. Also, what individual choices can someone born into poverty, with a disability, or in an abusive environment make? Stop pretending that we live in a fair and meritocratic society. Those times passed decades ago, even in Western Europe.
Load More Replies...We were also curious what the OP has noticed has become unattainable today. "Owning a home or an apartment seems like something only wealthy people can purchase, unless it's an inheritance," they shared. "Buying a car is quite expensive nowadays, the maintenance, insurance, taxes that come with it as well."
"Food such as vegetables, meat, dairy and fruits that used to be cheap back in the day and abundant are now quite expensive. I see why people opt for junk food to save money," they added.
Disney has gotten crazy expensive.
Going to sports or concerts.
I despise Disney for their breathtaking greed. It totally ruins the experience.
"Those Disney people - they're kinda close with a buck." - Bill Murray
Load More Replies...Imagine how expensive is it for the foreign visitors. A two-days single ticket in Orlando costs one month's average Hungarian salary. Insane.
On my first trip there as an adult, it was $11.00 for all rides all day. This was the late 70s.
A friend of our's worked in Orlando. She fit into multiple categories for inclusion & diversity. They got a big influx of new employees from overseas. All here on H1B visas. The staff soon realized they were all being replaced with cheap immigrant labor. Disney could treat those employees anyway they wanted to. They nearly had a walk out of the employees. Disney shipped their indentured servants back home. Now Disney is doing this whole diversity BS.
They never were. Walt built Disneyland so families could go and play together, instead of Mom and Dad sitting on a bench watching their kids on the carousel. It's utterly out of control now; thanks to "dynamic pricing", they nickel and dime you to death for things that used to be part of the ticket.
Load More Replies...concerts? the average concert i see costs about 30 euro. So no, not "concerts"
A summer house. I know many families that have an old house on a lake that they go to in the summers. It’s been passed down for a couple generations. Nobody in the current generation could afford one but some how a family with a single income bought it 50 years ago and the man’s wife and wife and kids would spend the whole summer there and he would go up on weekends.
I heard someone talking about “starter homes” the other day. Like, “yeah that’s a nice house but a little small for a family, it would make a good starter home for a young couple.” I was like…..a WHAT?
Load More Replies...Maybe upper-middle class, but not super wealthy. They were usually small houses, often just a step above camping, in some scenic rural area perhaps a few hours drive from the main home. In my area there are a few that still exist either as family vacation houses or vacation rentals, but depending on the location most have wither been converted into full time homes or torn down and replaced with mega mansion vacation homes for the super wealthy.
Load More Replies...Having a lake house to visit in the summer has always been my dream. I'm very fortunate to own a house right now. I highly doubt I'll ever have 2 of them.
I’m not sure I’d want to have two of them even if I could afford it. Too much work,.
Load More Replies...We didn't even have a caravan site after my grandparents moved to a nursing home. They used to pay for a set number of days occupancy a year, and we could use it when they didn't. Affordable accommodation for a family of 7. The nursing home costs meant they had to also sell their house, shares etc.
Very large families, as in having 4 or more kids
Why would you want so many children? We are already with too many. There is not enough food to feed everyone, not enough work to earn enough money
Very true. We have plenty of kids, but not enough parents.
Load More Replies...Agreed and then trash bags like the duggers have 20+ children who then grow up and have 10+ children each. I find it disgusting.
Load More Replies...Unless you play the system and obtain welfare. Then you can pop out as many babies as you want rme
Sadly, Dash_Weh_Dat doesn't expect any of these things to become affordable again in the future. And as far as the responses to their post, they said the replies were "on the nose."
"I agree with most of them apart for the 'trolly' ones," they added. "None of them surprised me."
Healthcare that covers whatever you actually need done including surgery, imaging, childbirth, etc.
What is Kathy O’s problem? I’ve seen them comment that several times now.
Load More Replies...I *just* don't get why Americans still routinely vote against universal health care when they know it'll benefit them long term into the future as politicians can't dictate who gets what medical care and when.
There was a push when I was pregnant with my second child that the US was trying to make pregnancy a preexisting condition.
I'm currently going through chemo and the hospital envelopes with the bills, make me shudder.
The healthcare system Obama was supposed to base Obamacare off of is they where my daughter gets her care & is insured thru. Her doctor ordered a procedure. Everything was within the system. She still got stuck with a $6000 bill. It was for a test, not full blown surgery.
I have a severe eye disease and my insurance covers very little of the procedures/drops that I need. I pay mostly out of pocket, but I can no longer afford it. It's absolute b******t!
A middle income starter home.
No such thing anymore. I see plenty of "starter" homes in my neighborhood being snapped up by developers and bulldozed, so they can put up these monsters that take up the entire property footprint. Why would I move into a McMansion on a busy street without even a yard or a driveway? Who buys these things?
Everything... f*****g everything.
Housing, the younger generation are being forced to rent. sad to see
There several new subdivisions being built in my area where the homes are "luxury rentals" only. WTH??
its so sad to see the greedy just going for the money. In my town luxury flats are being build one after another, fancy posh s**t projects, and so many people are on waitinglists for a "council flat" / social housing. It makes me rage with anger.
Load More Replies...People paying $1200 monthly rent are told by the banks that they can't afford a $800 monthly house payment.
The younger generations are not only being forced to rent, but forced to take on roommates just to make it. Many are simply staying home because there is no alternative.
SO MANY of my 30-something friends live with their parents. Including my best friend - he’s embarrassed and does pay his parents $500/month on top of also buying groceries and cooking dinner most nights, but I keep telling him DONT MOVE OUT YET. If your parents are still happy to have you and you’re happy there, then stay and save as much money as you can!!
Load More Replies...And some people wonder why I still live with my parents despite having a steady job
Even rent has skyrocketed. The US is not the only ones facing housing issues.
Automobiles. My first car cost me $3255. My current one cost me nearly $40,000
If we take out of the equation the post-pandemic spike (that is now waning), car prices remained remarkably consistent since the very beginning, despite quality and technological content steadily improving. A 1920 Ford T today would cost about $25k, that is an average price for a small family car. A 1965 Mustang would have cost about the same, comparable to a 1980 Toyota Celica in a standard configuration.
They totally forgets that inflation exists.. same with shrinkflation, things will kost more in € but have "somewhat" the same price. We'll not totally ... but if you think everything was so cheap before, then think again.
Load More Replies...Country, type of car, features and equipment of either car, inflation correction, ...? Worthless without details
I paid about $10k for my first new car in 1990. My grandparents paid about $10k for their first new house in 1956. No, something is wrong.
My father's first paycheck was £8. Per month. Mine is £1,200. If you don't factor in inflation, all of the posts about the cost of things are pointless
Load More Replies...I bought a new car for $17000 in 2016. My sister bought a second hand one last year for the same price! Not much difference in the type of car.
I want 70s to 80s Detroit steele. Something without D*MN touch screens and you can work on yourself, not have to pull the engine just to get to the alternator or pay the dealership for its *EXPERTISE*!
EV prices are starting to come down :) give it a year or two and we should see some much more affordable ones on the market. I’m still an ICE/PHEV girlie myself.
Load More Replies...Retired now and could not even afford to buy the 22 year old Camry that I currently drive. That 22 year old heap still sells for $6000!
I know!!! I got my 2005 Corolla for free from my grandma, but with almost 300,000 km on the odo…..the KBB and CBB values are still $3,500-$5,000 😅 maybe it’s just because they’re Toyotas, because my 2001 Ford Focus with a mere 90,000 km was only worth $2,000 in 2022.
Load More Replies...Post COVID prices are up $2k-$4K on average. A base trim Civic used to be around $21K. Now around $25K. It's not price gouging, the cost to build is higher. Dealer profit level is the same. Toyota and the others have the same issue.
Good news, those high Covid prices are actually easing and have been for a while now :) I work in the industry
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Chicken wings, nobody should be paying $2 per wing
I remember when restaurants had 10 cent wing nights, as recently as the early 2010s! Then it became 20 cents, then 25, then 30, and then they stopped advertising those specials…..and now it’s $15.99 for a dozen wings at my local pub.
Load More Replies...Yes, let's make the life of the chickens even more miserable, so people can afford fun fastfood with zero nutritional value.
I don't mind paying reasonable price for meat to give the opportunity for the producers to give them a natural and stress free life!
Load More Replies...... And Taco Bell. About 35 yrs ago, I used to live off of Taco Bell's .30¢ "Value Menu" (3 items for $1.07) however not only has Taco Bell done away with their 30 cent value menu but now you're looking at between three and four dollars for a little taco there's no way I'm going to spend $12 - $15 for three skimpy, tiny AF tacos!
This is way too cheap still.. you are killing 0,5 chicken per wing! Why the f**k should that be cheaper than 2 dollars??
I have a local bar and grill that has $0.55 a wing night on Wednesdays. They are always packed, and they sell thousands. Fortunately, they are excellent wings,
Privacy
Maybe referring to having 4 roommates just to be able to have a roof over your head
or a living space where you don't hear every breath of your neighbor left and right.
Load More Replies...Maybe referring to social media and the internet….but considering the question was “what can people no longer afford,” it doesn’t make much sense 😅
Load More Replies...I used to own my house. Then the Home Owners Insurance Premiums suddenly Quadrupled in price hence, I couldn't afford insurance for my home anymore, Bank found out that the insurance on the house lapsed and foreclosed on me! I had a "fixed rate" mortgage and only 2 years left before it would've been paid off! Property Taxes too! My Health insurance decided (2 yrs ago) that I needed to now pay a $5000 deductible before they even consider paying out <-🤬Rip off Rats🤬 So now I'm renting a room from a friend along with 7 other ppl!
I want to live out in the country, away from everyone. Peace & quiet. Suddenly people think you have some radical agenda.
Housing, education, most high quality food, vehicles etc etc.. you can still get those things but you will die in debt
Books are so crazy expensive. I was book shopping the other day and a tiny paperback copy of I am legend was $20.
I've had a coworker telling me to read it, saying it's better than the movie by a lot but man. It's a small a*s book for that price.
This. Books are to me one of the most profitable things to buy in thrift stores. Clothes and furniture have been getting more and more expensive in second hand shops, but books are very cheap. . Good way to make a bit of money too; of you know what is valuable, they are worth quite a bit more online. And the hunt for a nice one is fun!
Load More Replies...Even the Ebook versions of some are absurd. I'm not paying $13 for it.
Just a tip - Amazon’s Kindle often has free books to download and their free selection is unusually great! :) No purchase necessary, just download the free Amazon Kindle app. I recently got an amazing selection of sci fi and fantasy for free and it includes a few of Neil Gaiman’s short stories, some Terry Pratchett and even Sheri S Tepper (my favourite sci fi author ).
Load More Replies...Your local library doesn't just have physical books. Learn to read electronic books and you just get copies of them for free, forever. The trick is a black screen with white text. It won't keep you up at night, and there's no environmental damage. Look up how much pulp and paper mills pollute even today and it will shock you. Seriously, try it. It took like 3-4 books before I was just onboard. Bonus, you can carry your library with you EVERYWHERE
Well, more than 50 years ago, but lobster. In New England It used to be used by prisons to feed inmates. Plentiful, cheap, and kinda gross, so no one else was going to eat it.
Perhaps. I wonder how much longer ago “more than 50 years” OP means. I grew up in the US and in the 1970’s lobster was a very expensive, treat we might be allowed to order in a restaurant once in a blue moon.
There is no evidence that lobster was any sort of prison food staple. This is just more mythologizing a time that never existed.
Load More Replies...Up until the 1960s, it was commonly served on the Maritime coast in Canada. Lobster was plentiful and cheap, anyone could afford it. Our parents sometimes complained about it..
Reasonable living standards.
Edit: apparently people aren't able to put the original question and answer together. My point is that having reasonable living by today's standards is something fewer people can afford compared to 50 years ago. The difference between living standards of wealthy and poor was far narrower than it is today. Sure, we didn't have internet and fancy TVs and take away deliveries from our phones back then, but *nobody* had that, so that's irrelevant. 50 years ago you didn't have to be rich to own your home, to work reasonable hours, to have some leisure time. Now you simply cannot afford to even rent somewhere in some places unless you're earning well above minimum wage.
Yes, please raise employee payment and other costs so that the price of goods goes up even more. We need things to be more expensive. Please unionize!
Load More Replies..."Some places", correct. 50 years ago here one had to be rich to own a house, or stop doing nice things for decades.
I really hope BP does something about Kathy O stalking you, it’s really cringy to watch her 😬
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Cod in Sweden. When I grew up, it was the staple fish, the base for most traditional fish dishes and you’d eat it several times a week. With a dwindling cod population in Swedish waters, it has now gotten so expensive that I can’t remember when I last had cod.
In 1980, according to Statistics Sweden, one kilogram of cod was 15 SEK (US$1.42 with today’s FX rate). In 2024 money, that would be $5.60.
But in the stores today, one kilogram of cod will cost you $29.70 (cheapest cod at Hemköp).
(Apparently Statistics Sweden stopped tracking the price of cod in 2012, which I guess is just proof of its loss of importance as a staple food in Sweden)
We misused food supplies heavily between 1950 and 2000, and are now paying the price
It's not just Sweden. All Arctic waters have been depleted of cod fish from overfishing. Almost every common fish stock in the world is in decline. That's why the names of the fish you see in the grocery store keep changing to ones you've never heard of. Fishermen rely on people not being able to see the ecological damage in order to keep the trade going, even though they all end up out of jobs in the end. (if ranchers can be held accountable for veal/cows/dairy/methane, we need to be mindful of the oceans too)
because cod was almost extinct. When I grew up in the late 80s/90s, cod was almost non-existent. It was so overfished there were prohibitions on fishing it, and the industry switched to pollock. Freaking fish sticks once used to be cod.
Lego
Yes, it's expensive. BUT it lasts (almost) for ever, stimulates creativity and is great for hand-eye coordination. Our grandkids played with Lego I bought fifty years ago for our sons, and our great grandies are likely to inherit it. And maybe even their kids... ;)
It wasn't exactly cheap in the 90s either. Most of our lego was from a second hand box we got at a garage sale. Any new sets were given as birthday gifts from friends. It's also still so sought after, second hand sales are more than you would expect. At least $10 for a small set at an op shop etc.
Medical surgical care. Prescription medication.
The new eyedrops to treat dry eye syndrome are not covered by Medicare insurance and cost $630 for a two week dose. Pharmaceutical companies are the major greedy corporations in America. Why aren't Republicans complaining about them?
Probably they have shares in these companies? Not that I know the political regulations for that in US, I'm UK. Plenty of political corruption here too...
Load More Replies...£9.45 (or thereabouts) for the prescription in the UK. No charge for the meds.
$6.80 I think if on a healthcare card in Australia, about $13 if not, IF they are on the pharmaceutical benefit scheme. I had one that wasn't and it was $50 a month, but has now come down to $34 over the counter. More expensive is vitamins etc. I have to take some because of my auto immune conditions and they always bump up the costs. Especially the soluble magnesium I have to take for restless leg syndrome.
Load More Replies...I'm on several VERY OLD generic prescriptions. They are not covered by my insurance and are soooo expensive out of pocket..
College education
Your response to almost every post, but never any context.
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Owning a dog!
Euthanasia costs 40% more than last year. A aquaintance was quoted 600 for spaying her dog. I paid about 250 18 years ago. Pets are expensive. Plan for it. edit: Germany
I paid $150 for my dog to be neutered about 15 years ago. When we had to put him down 3 years ago, it was the same $150. Either I had a really good vet, or things have blown up in just the last two years.
Load More Replies...Pro tip from a breeder: many shelters and some universities offer low cost spay or neuter done by Vet students (under supervision)
Actually (in the US at least) most spay neuter clinics are staffed by graduated and licensed doctors. I'm a low cost spay neuter vet and have been doing it for 15 years in various clinics. I don't even let other DVMs that are new to the clinic do surgery without supervision for several weeks. However, there are less diagnostics and monitoring equipment for the procedure (IV, EKG, pre-surgical bloodwork, etc...).
Load More Replies...Or a cat. I spent over $300 a month in the last few years of my beloved cat. The wet food, dry veterinary food, litter, treats, pet sitter, lab work, vet visits, holistic health drops for her kidney disease.... She did live to 19 though. Not sure I can afford another one. RIP
In certain states like California in the USA you're allowed a voucher for free sapyed and neutering plus there shots. The humane society does it you send them your address and you can get one 🙂
No pets for me, I'd be living on noodles just so I could feed a pet. Lucky the neighbours dog likes cuddles...she's mine to share
Organic or specialty foods that were once more affordable have become increasingly expensive compared to processed or unhealthy alternatives, making access to healthy food more difficult for lower-income individuals.
Seems to depend on the country. Here basic, local food of the season/storable is cheaper.
I’ve found that, if you’re into organic produce, learning what fruits/veggies are better/worse to buy organic can save money :) I’ve been taught that anything with a thick peel, like bananas or oranges, doesn’t need to be bought organic because the skin protects the fruit from chemicals, so there’s no need to spend extra money. But things like leafy greens or berries will absorb more pesticides. (Feel free to correct me! I don’t really care about buying organic for most things so please take my info with a grain of salt and do your own research if this piques your interest 😊)
Load More Replies...It's why local farmer's markets are so important. During the season, we drive 20 miles to an Amish farmer's market on weekends. You don't hear much English there. Most folks there are immigrants from eastern Europe. They know where the healthiest & least expensive foods are. Of course there are always the younger American crowd who wants to know every detail about how the crops are grown to how the livestock are treated before they are turned into food. They get frustrated when the very simple living Amish have no clue what they are talking about.
This was always the point. I grew up in ranch/farm country and people LOVE the organic trade because it has lower overhead and a much higher return on products, even imperfect ones. It's a slightly less efficient farming method for significantly higher prices. As a bonus, every few years a low value common product undergoes chemical analysis, surprise surprise food has a beneficial quality, that quality gets overhyped, and bam! You have a new superfood to sell! Just look at what's been done for kale, quinoa, amaranth, almonds, and acai. Entire ecosystems destroyed to bring the next anti-oxidant laden fad right to your doorstep via your favorite grocery delivery app
you can also see whats in season and local. But again, location is everything.
Now Americans (I'm one of them) become T2 Diabetic because of poverty and affordable food.
A ski trip. It was still expensive but now it’s just crazy thanks to large corporations decreasing competition by buying all the resorts.
Or because of less snow and additional cost due to snow cannons. In my opinion a lot ski areas should be shut down due to it and destroying the landscape . (Germany)
So American. In Europe there is no « resort » and no big corporations owning the place. Only villages with local businesses and a public/private company running the lifts and ski patrol. And the experience is so so so much better.
I can add a comment for Salt Lake City. Population growth. The Salt Lake Valley has a very high population growth rate (I know multiple people who moved here just for the skiing, in fact). Supply and demand hits hard.
In southern BC we can go surfing and skiiing all in the same day 😁 many of our mountains rise right out of the sea. Lots of people move to our area for the recreation too
Load More Replies...When I was in my early 20s, I could afford to go (from UK) to Whistler for 10-14 days per year. Now I live in BC and can't afford to go for more than a weekend.
1960’s Gibson or Fender guitars. The dentists/surgeons and “collectors” have wrecked the market for the common musician.
Trumpets, too. I own and play my Grandpa's 1967 Getzen Severinsen model. I can't replace that for less than $3,000. I have a cheaper one that I bang around with, but the sound just isn't the same.
Reviews of the affordable guitars now coming out of China have been very good. Youtube reviewers sound great playing them.
Natural fiber clothing. Feels impossible to find anything affordable that has mostly cotton.
Edit: I’ve compiled a list of most of what was recommended. Sorry if I missed something.
T-shirts:
Michael’s craft stores,
Duluth trading,
Walmart,
Comfort colors on Amazon,
Carhartt,
Uniqlo,
Costco,
Go 2 clothing co on amazon
Secondhand:
eBay (Pendleton wool flannels),
Thrift/vintage stores,
ThredUp.com,
Poshmark
Materials to make your own clothing:
Foxfibre,
Joann’s,
Local fabric store,
Vintage/secondhand fabrics,
General clothing:
Uniqlo,
H&M for linen,
Target,
Old navy,
Quince,
Land’s End,
Svaha,
LL Bean,
Pact
Undies:
Haynes,
Intimissimi (lingerie),
Kirkland,
Jockey (100% cotton panties)
I shop at Next regularly. Not all,but a lot of the clothing I have bought my daughter is 100% cotton. I buy in the clearance then donate
My wife & I were going to an old textile factory for a sale. Our daughter told us that if we see any nice lace to buy some. We got there & the volume was truly overwhelming. Took my daughter back the next day. The owner of the old Scranton Lace Factory told her that this warehouse alone had 300 million yards of lace in it & so did the one next door that was still sealed up. Our daughter did not buy any. She was that much in shock.
You think that's bad? Try finding clothing that wasn't made using slavery/unfair practices. It's a hell of a minefield. And thanks to "non-profit donation centers" that are barely charities (Looking at you Diabetes Society and Value Village) you can't even get affordable used clothes to try to reduce waste. It's often cheaper to buy slave made/imported from across the globe/horror cloth from Amazon than it is to go down to your local 2nd hand store
We raise sheep. Our all natural wonderful wool has cast in a warehouse for the last 4 years. Adding thousands of pounds each year. Why? Trade with China ceased during Covid. They were the biggest exporter for wool. There are very few woolen mills left in the United States. We would love to sell our wool for clothing. It's just not happening any more with fast fashion.
Eggs
I swear the cost of the same eggs has nearly doubled in the past few years
In Belgium, organic eggs we but all of a sudden got one Euro more expensive, now around 45 cent per egg. But we have a friend who has a crazy amount of free range chickens so now we get more eggs than we can eat :-D and they're good!
Time with your Senator or Congressperson (most of them).
My mom participated in a program to for youth/young adults to speak with their US Federal representatives and actually went to meetings with them to express the youth's desires for the future. She even became pen pals with one and ended up being gifted a US flag from his office for her efforts.
Today that s**t costs thousands of dollars a plate dinner, donations, and possible offers of board and executive positions to just get in the door to speak with them.
It's very easy to get to speak to your MP. They take on board what you have said, then throw it overboard as soon as the door shuts behind you. Unless you are in a position to offer the goodies listed by OP
In the old days the poor had horses the rich had cars now everyone has cars and the rich have the horses
Race/Polo/EquestrianHorses
A free horse is the most expensive hobby you can have.
Load More Replies...The poor have **never** been able to afford horses. They have always been expensive to keep, even in Mediaeval times. The people that could afford to use a horse for work (delivering coal, working the farm) had at least a decent income. Horses just as transport for getting around have never been an option for someone less than well off.
Depends on where you live (country and region). Here lots of people have horses for fun. It is rural, we do all the work ourselves and the stables are shacks. The horses are outside most of the time.
In the UK you simply don't have your own land unless you're already loaded, and renting land for a horse comes with problems (especially as they don't do well alone). Hay and feed is bloody expensive and grass is too poor in winter. Because of how wet it is fields can become unusable in winter due to literally being swamped. Finding places to ride safely can be really hard as well, a lot of the country has very little if any available bridleways and traffic can be very dangerous (1 horse a week is killed on our roads). The farrier (hoof care and shoes) is expensive, every 6 weeks or so. That's without regular vet care, rugs, tack, miscellaneous expenses and other equipment/maintenance, and an emergency/rainy day fund, as well as rent/livery fees. £££
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A new comic book from 50 years ago.
Yes, I cannot afford a van Gogh nowadays. Back then I could have traded that painting for a glass of wine.
For much of the 80s, comics were like 60 cents, 35 if I subscribed. Currently they're $6, no discount if I sub at my local store. Sure, the quality of the paper, ink, art, writing, everything is better, but it used to be easy to follow all my favorite comics. Now I don't bother at all, though I still love comics.
Rolex watches. One British guy bought a new Rolex 1966 for 69 pounds which is equivalent to £2334 now. New rolexes are starting from £7000 nowadays.
If you have enough money to buy a rolex, you’d be stupid to buy a rolex. This is a brand for upstarts or to display a non existent wealth.
Beef brisket
2-3 kids and a wife on a single income
My husband and I reversed that. I made 3 times his income. When he was landed off I suggested he saty with the kids. We had been working opposite shifts so one of us was always with the kids. He couldn't find another evening shift and daycare was so expensive even 30+ years ago. It would have taken 90%of his pay to cover it. Child care is expensive. If a parent is doing it you have lost that income. If you are paying for it you have still lost that income by giving it to child care providers. Also remember in the US many, may jobs have no pension plans outside of management or they pay so little you can't participate because every dime goes for basic necessities.
Slide Film
I miss when it wasn't $30 a roll of Fuji Velvia
I miss the days of film when we would take 36 photos only to have two or three come out good.
Hope
Eel in Norway.
Endangered specie, illegal to catch without special pemission. Used to be cheap food, now one kilo is no less than 100€.
Same for Atlantic tuna, used as dog food in the 60’s, now even the less finer cut are above 40€/kg when available. Interesting fact: No well known Norwegian dishes with tuna as hardly no-one is familiar how to use this in Norway. Fresh tuna were off the marked for 50 years in Norway.
Whale used to be extremely cheap, but has become rarely eaten, Gen Z just won’t, to an extend that to sell the meat available the sellers had to dump prices to abt 20€/kg.
General Aviation
For a real answer, instead of people just moaning about the cost of living: caviar. Caviar used to be affordable when wild caught was allowed but overfishing starting in the late 1800s reduced the populations of wild sturgeon to almost nothing.
Now all caviar is farmed which is very time and labor intensive because it can take decades for a sturgeon to be ready to harvest.
I’ve heard stories from around the Black Sea of it just being an everyday food but now it’s hundreds of dollars or more for a tin of the good stuff.
Downvote? In 1975 it was stuff only millionaires ate. No average person could pay this lot of money for tiny tins.
Load More Replies...People aren't just "moaning about the cost of living." They're giving legitimate answers. The fact that those answers are so banal and mundane should be alarming, not dismissed.
Big Macs
Single engine airplanes
Oh, come on, you can still get a Cirrus Vision Jet for around $3 million
A lot of these seem to come from buying into nostalgia. There are problems now, but 50 years ago was not some magical time where everyone could just have one worker in a household and live a great life. There were areas and industries where this was true, just like now, but there were also plenty of households where both parents worked and they still could not afford to own their own home, or lived in sub standard housing. There were also plenty of areas of severe poverty, and people who could not afford the basics. The percentage of people living below the poverty line in the US in 1975 was marginally higher than now, and in the UK in the early 70s the economy was in such a state there was the 3 day week and despite years of building projects, 12% of the population still lived in houses deemed unfit for human habitation. "Things were better in the past" is just a way for politicians to get votes without offering actual solutions to problems society currently faces.
Just some counterpoints. Computers were expensive and generally unavailable and difficult to use 50 years ago. TVs were quite a luxury item 50 years ago. And they came with lower resolution and had very few channels. Nowadays, 55" tvs are super cheap. Making a long distance phone calls were expensive. Now, it is almost free.
and the first mobile phones were super expensive.
Load More Replies...Yes, and no. Many of these things were never affordable for the majority of the people. It depends on the country, too. In Europe e.g. the "house at a lake" was usually a shack with outside toilet and running cold water inside was already luxury. Or a small caravan or a tent. A real house was only for the rich. People were happier with less. 50 years ago a lot of expensive stuff wasn't necessary to buy and seen as one time luxury. A stereo tower was a dream not many people could buy. People bought mostly items made and grown in own countries, which ensured that wages were okay, so people could buy stuff made in own country. People had to be smart with their money to afford nice things, and they kept them in shape instead of buying and binning, because "it is so cheap that I'll buy a new one when I need one". And a lot more things. Parents taught children about money management and included them in running a household. They taught them that some things need time, and a perfect solution can be reached by in-between steps of less perfect steps.
Unregulated capitalism is what we can't afford. Make the rich pay their back taxes, return tax rates to what they were in the 1950s, and tax ALL income, including share dividends, at the same rate. No more loopholes. The rich make so much money that you could make $150,000 the minimum income to pay tax, and the yanks could STILL collect enough tax to pay the government's budget.
People? You do realize that we "get" inflation as a thing right? Has anyone considered that "real wages" have stagnated since the 80's? Stop and consider your own life over the past 20 years or so (if you are old enough), and what you "used to" afford and really can't "justify" anymore. THAT is what this is all about.
It used to be that only the very wealthy could afford to fly; now almost anyone can even if it is frequently inconvenient or uncomfortable. Owning more than one car was seen as a luxury but most people in the US have at least two cars. Just imagine telling someone in 1980 that they, a regular person, would have a handheld supercomputer, a TV in every room of their house, unlimited access to untold forms of entertainment, etc. They’d call you delusional to the point of being insane. And, as pointed out multiple times here, the cost of anything is relative to inflation; just saying things cost more and leaving it at that is dishonest. Finally, the price we pay for an economy that relies on endless growth in a finite world is that there is a limited supply of everything meaning we will pay more and get less. Everyone wants a higher standard of living but the bill comes due.
A lot of these seem to come from buying into nostalgia. There are problems now, but 50 years ago was not some magical time where everyone could just have one worker in a household and live a great life. There were areas and industries where this was true, just like now, but there were also plenty of households where both parents worked and they still could not afford to own their own home, or lived in sub standard housing. There were also plenty of areas of severe poverty, and people who could not afford the basics. The percentage of people living below the poverty line in the US in 1975 was marginally higher than now, and in the UK in the early 70s the economy was in such a state there was the 3 day week and despite years of building projects, 12% of the population still lived in houses deemed unfit for human habitation. "Things were better in the past" is just a way for politicians to get votes without offering actual solutions to problems society currently faces.
Just some counterpoints. Computers were expensive and generally unavailable and difficult to use 50 years ago. TVs were quite a luxury item 50 years ago. And they came with lower resolution and had very few channels. Nowadays, 55" tvs are super cheap. Making a long distance phone calls were expensive. Now, it is almost free.
and the first mobile phones were super expensive.
Load More Replies...Yes, and no. Many of these things were never affordable for the majority of the people. It depends on the country, too. In Europe e.g. the "house at a lake" was usually a shack with outside toilet and running cold water inside was already luxury. Or a small caravan or a tent. A real house was only for the rich. People were happier with less. 50 years ago a lot of expensive stuff wasn't necessary to buy and seen as one time luxury. A stereo tower was a dream not many people could buy. People bought mostly items made and grown in own countries, which ensured that wages were okay, so people could buy stuff made in own country. People had to be smart with their money to afford nice things, and they kept them in shape instead of buying and binning, because "it is so cheap that I'll buy a new one when I need one". And a lot more things. Parents taught children about money management and included them in running a household. They taught them that some things need time, and a perfect solution can be reached by in-between steps of less perfect steps.
Unregulated capitalism is what we can't afford. Make the rich pay their back taxes, return tax rates to what they were in the 1950s, and tax ALL income, including share dividends, at the same rate. No more loopholes. The rich make so much money that you could make $150,000 the minimum income to pay tax, and the yanks could STILL collect enough tax to pay the government's budget.
People? You do realize that we "get" inflation as a thing right? Has anyone considered that "real wages" have stagnated since the 80's? Stop and consider your own life over the past 20 years or so (if you are old enough), and what you "used to" afford and really can't "justify" anymore. THAT is what this is all about.
It used to be that only the very wealthy could afford to fly; now almost anyone can even if it is frequently inconvenient or uncomfortable. Owning more than one car was seen as a luxury but most people in the US have at least two cars. Just imagine telling someone in 1980 that they, a regular person, would have a handheld supercomputer, a TV in every room of their house, unlimited access to untold forms of entertainment, etc. They’d call you delusional to the point of being insane. And, as pointed out multiple times here, the cost of anything is relative to inflation; just saying things cost more and leaving it at that is dishonest. Finally, the price we pay for an economy that relies on endless growth in a finite world is that there is a limited supply of everything meaning we will pay more and get less. Everyone wants a higher standard of living but the bill comes due.
