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There are plenty of uncomfortable conversations to be had in life. Just think about politics or religion — these topics evoke such strong emotions, people are bound to find themselves in heated arguments. But there are also matters that some folks avoid speaking about, and money is certainly at the top of the list.
From salaries and personal savings to spending habits, our finances carry a certain stigma which makes it hard to talk about. Yet, that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t. A few days ago, user Necessary-Bun raised a question on Ask Reddit and invited fellow members to open up about professions they think are way overpaid.
The thread quickly went viral and received a deluge of comments where people called out some relatively cushy jobs with paychecks that just don’t make sense. Bored Panda has collected some of the best answers from this post, so keep scrolling and let us know if you agree with them in the comments!
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#1
Preachers. No one dedicated to God should own a jet, mansion, or expensive car.
The Penguin Bandit 3 years ago
Are preachers rich? Because my dad was a minister when I was a little kid and we lived in legit poverty.
Thorfin Wolfsbane 3 years ago
If you own a mansion and a jet, then ‘preacher’ is the wrong word. I think the word you’re looking for is ‘conman’
Billy Allen 3 years ago
This post represents televangelist preachers predominantly such as Joel Osteen who has his own private jet, mega mansion and mega church and who took a government financial handout meant for small businesses to pay their employees while he's flush with millions of dollars. There's a bunch of these fake preachers in the US.
Karen Scheltema 3 years ago
He had to be shamed into opening up his church as a haven for Hurricane Harvey victims.
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tuzdayschild 3 years ago
Depends on the church. My dad is my pastor and along with being a full time pastor he also had a full time job. First the Navy then civil service after Navy retirement. He's 85 now and his income comes from his work retirement. The church has always given him a small token, but nothing near what you can live on. My denomination does not support preachers financial. They have to work.
Shabette the Great 3 years ago
I don't think we need extravagant pay, but a loving wage would be nice. I have to earn a master's and go through years of intense reviews (including a full psychological workup and a 100 page thesis I will spend a weekend defending). Most of us take our jobs pretty seriously. We're with people in their most vulnerable moments, and that's a precious gift.
bumble bee 3 years ago
Consider those items as red flags as to the integrity of anyone calling themselves a preacher
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#2
Politicians. I'd understand if they made things better, but they generally f**k over the working class which is the majority of the country yet give themselves huge bonuses and expenses as though they have done a brilliant job.
Dolly_of TheCowboy 3 years ago
Out here when politicians are asked why their pay/allowances and conditions are so extraordinarily generous compared to other actual jobs, they invariably reply "you need to have remunerations and incentives at those levels to encourage the best and brightest to apply". Funny how it only applies to those parasites in politics because as soon as you talk about needing decent, thriving wages and working conditions for frontline/essential workers suddenly "oh no The Economy cannot afford it" "we need to reign in excess spending on wages". Except of course for politicians and CEOs and the like. Surely you want the best and brightest attracted to professions like teaching, nursing and policing and others that perform vital functions so the dodgy weirdos can be weeded out? Surely that is most important to a community? Perhaps if politicians and CEOs had their pay, bonuses and conditions kept at no more than 3-4 times the welfare or minimum wage we might see less inequality
Milady Blue 3 years ago
The "best and brightest" is a lie, to judge by the behavior of just about every level of politician in EVERY country.
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David Woollands 3 years ago
“Put the politicians on minimum wage, and watch how fast things change!!”
Nancie Jeanne 3 years ago
Not true. Plus, y'all never vote for the poor ones.
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".... give themselves huge bonuses..." Then Raise Prices Blaming "Inflation"
Katinka Min 3 years ago
IN Germany, any director of a midsized bank earns more moeny than our chancellor. Low tier politicians earn too mich, I think, epecially EU ones but many of our top politicians make a fraction of what they could earn 'in the wild'
Donna Morton 3 years ago
They are hugely overpaid, but then I would be too if I was in charge of my own rate of pay.
bumble bee 3 years ago
What I have learned over many years is that I will not support any politician that continues to say one thing, like supporting the working class while campaigning, and yet do nothing when elected. Then do it exactly the same way next election and so on.
Quasar 3 years ago
how do you know many politicians aren't atleast trying to fulfill their promises? they can't do much without the majority of congress and/or senators on their side to pass a bill or fulfill a promise, that's why politicians should never say "i promise"
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Vasana Phong 3 years ago
Please do research and background histories on them before voting them in, too many ‘ how did they get in office references’ after the fact
#3
Socialites. Why do we have people who have never worked a day in their life getting millions on investments they didn’t make when others need 3-4 jobs just to keep a roof over their head?
La Kalypso 3 years ago
To the exception of criminals, these are probably the worst society has produced. They're the obnoxious embodiment of laziness, superficiality and uselessness.
tuzdayschild 3 years ago
That is inherited money. A family member literally gave them that money. That's not a job it's a birthright. Following them, don't follow them. They have core wealth and are going to be rich either way.
C.Douglas 3 years ago
Yes many of them start out with inherited money but they also generate large incomes based on their following. Over their lifetimes they'll add more wealth from this income than what they inherited. Its also questionable whether such large wealth should be inheritable.
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Kate Jones 3 years ago
You know, I used to get really upset about these people making so much but it doesn't bother me any more. Good for them for figuring out how to make a ridulous amount for doing nothing. My problem is how they get away with things simply BECAUSE they're rich. Fines for bad behavior need to be equivilant to the amount you make as a percentage, so that people speeding or causing destruction to property can't just get out of it by writing a check. Kendall Jenner parks in handicapped spots all the time because the fine is pocket change to her. Politicians/companies get away with crimes because the fines are so tiny in comparison to what they take in. If they were hurt a little more with real jail time or real fines that made a difference to them, and were not allowed to use tax loopholes to pass the tax burden onto the little guys, then I'd have no problem with anyone who finds a way to make tons of money doing whatever they want.
Ruth Watry 3 years ago (edited)
People just need to stop watching their TV shows, stop buying their brands and stop purchasing magazines with their pictures on the cover
#4
Hospital CEO’s… and actually almost all hospital upper management. There are so many layers of management that many of them barely step foot into a healthcare facility EVER, let alone EVER speak to a patient, yet all of them make 6, 7, 8 figure salaries plus mega bonuses. My hospital network CEO makes $11 million salary not including bonuses, which bothers me, but bothers me, even more, are all the board members and s**t directly under him making nearly as much. It’s hundreds of millions of wasted money paid to the people trying to screw staff out of good pay and screwing patients into paying big bills.
Katinka Min 3 years ago
Not just in the US. In Germany half of the staff in a hospital are not medical. I understand that you need logistics, cleaning kitchens etc, but HALF??
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Magentablu 3 years ago
Not only the sickness, but the suffering. And then even more profit from the suffering of the family. And keeping someone sick or sufereing as long as they can pay really has no name. It is beyond evil
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Paul Davis 3 years ago
My experience in healthcare taught me that these executives are constantly making decisions that threaten to kill the people they're supposed to be caring for. The medical staff spends an inordinate amount of time trying to push back against their idiotic "save 5 cents to risk multi-million dollar lawsuits" strategies. The only thing keeping these shitbags safe from career-ending lawsuits most of the time is patients and their families not recognizing what happened that cost their health or lives was the hospital administration greedily cutting corners.
Burnt Toast 3 years ago
The entire Health Care System in the US is a f*****g joke. Capitalism and Healthcare do not belong in the same conversation.
Susie Elle 3 years ago
I feel this is partly a USA problem - when I live, I don't think the director of any hospital makes those amounts, aside from celebrities I don't think anyone in my country makes those numbers while working under salaried employment. Not even the PM.
Id row 3 years ago
Everything about the industry is overpaid, except the doctors and nurses who actually do the work. The administrators, board of directors, insurance companies...all the middle men and shareholders wanting profit drives things way the hell up. It's past time for us to get socialized health care like most other civilized countries.
Jim Wamsley 3 years ago
Healthcare is one of those things that should not be for profit. No other first world country has a healthcare like this. And that is nothing to brag about.
bumble bee 3 years ago
This business model is found throughout most life science sectors. Pharmaceuticals are exactly the same.
Jill Tremblay 3 years ago
Oh yes. This happens in even the smallest of Towns. Hanover, NH. It's Sickening. Stealing from the sick.
#5
Kardashians. Definitely the Kardashians.
P. Mozzani 3 years ago
No matter what is written about them, not one of them has ever actually worked for a living. They've traded off of their names and their artificially enhanced appearances. They're about as relevant as a white crayon, and just as insipid.
#6
Honestly, most celeb positions. Pro athletes, singers, actors, etc... Before you respond, I understand the literal mechanics of a capitalist market. I understand that they command those wages through their craft, by being the best in a very competitive and limited market. I get the "supply and demand" of it all. I'm just saying, Mahomes getting like $40m per year just to throw a ball around in a game... When a top surgeon saving actual lives makes like $500k? Yeah, that's a silly overpay. And I'm a HUGE football fan, don't get me wrong. But at the end of the day, it's just a game, just entertainment. Not that serious.
Steve Fischer 3 years ago
Thanks to Republicans in Congress for giving the tax breaks to the rich, while cutting services to the poor and letting our country fall apart
CanidaeVulpes 3 years ago
This is more than just Republicans vs Democrats. To put everything on the shoulders of one group of people is to do an injustice and to ignore the underlying problems. Disclosure, I’m registered as third party
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Princess Buttercup 3 years ago
Longtime Chiefs fan here and I about threw up when I heard about that grotesque contract!! Absurd, greedy, ridiculous and criminal how much they gave him. NOBODY is worth that much money. NOBODY!!!!
Craig Reynolds 3 years ago
If people were not willing to pay stupid high ticket prices, those salaries would come down.
Fabian Meresse 3 years ago
It's mainly because they get a little part of what others make on their back and celebrity. Somewhere like us, but to another level. Just imagine what brands, agents, movie industry sponsoring and TV make...
Glynn Reid 3 years ago
Couldn't agree with this one more. I'm also a big sports fan, but none of the entertainment industry is an actual job. They are all hobbies.
GramDB 3 years ago
We all get big tax breaks IF we donate to "not for profit" and legal benevolent causes. The more we GIVE the more we can KEEP our taxes down! The rich GIVE $- GIVE $ & GIVE $! I'd rather see their tax money go for great causes and medical discoveries than to the IRS. Anyone can donate to worthy causes, to keep their tax bill low. But the average person is too stingy and whinny to give to charity and just lets the IRS take it all away.
P. Mozzani 3 years ago
ALL famous entertainers (and that includes pro sports figures) are overpaid. They contribute absolutely NOTHING to better society. They exist for entertainment purposes only. It's too bad that people, who actually make our society a better place, don't make 25% of the Mahomeses, the Ronaldos, the Jameses, the Currys, the Jordans, the Mannings, the Wades, the Bradys, and the list goes on, ad nauseam. We reward the wrong things.
#7
CEO of various charities that make mid to upper 6 figure income.
Jim Wamsley 3 years ago
Check charitynavigator.org for statistics on charities. A charity that can pay a CEO that kind of money would have to be taking in billions to get a 4 star rating. This site will show you what that CEO makes. It's public record.
Michelle Boden 3 years ago
I really check on the charities I give my hard earned dollars to. I don't like wasting my money.
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Most nonprofits pay their executives more than a real business executive makes
Shawn Brooks 3 years ago (edited)
This is simply not true. Just look at the example above about hospital CEOs. No nonprofit is paying $11 million.
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Jette Wang Wahnon 3 years ago
I may become very unpopular on BP but..I stopped donating to Red Cross when 1.a huge donation drive by them ended up rotting away in warehouses and never got distributed and 2. found out 75% of money collected was used for administration cost...I donate to Doctors Without Borders,the World Wild-life Fund and smaller non-profit associations I can get involved with personally i e a washing machine for Galgo rescue (Scooby,Medina del Campo) plus local charities.I don´t want my money or donation to go MIA...
jk nbt 3 years ago
any charity you see on TV begging for money will keep 90% of the money you give for themselves... They say they are feeding starving orphans or something like that to hook you in. It is good that you want to help others, and don't stop. What works best is to find a local charity organization in your local community. What works better is to help those in need directly on your own. Then 100% of the money goes to the truly needy.
Vasana Phong 3 years ago
This is sad, that’s why people are are hesitant about donating, even to good charities
James Alford 3 years ago
You’re not getting a qualified CEO for peanuts, sorry. The CEO of the Red Cross makes something like $700k/yr, but that’s less than 1% of their annual budget. No one who could make upper six figures as the head executive of a for-profit corporation is going to work for a non-profit and make the salary of a bank teller. Sorry if that’s a surprise.
#8
Celebrities and “influencers”
Brafne Heiwer 3 years ago
Influencers are the least talented people on the planet, especially those on tiktok. They get millions of views on tasteless trend videos, which translates to lots of money. Pointless.
Thaddeus Thompson 3 years ago
They prove that our existence has been rendered pointless. That's the problem. The existential dread of knowing that your existence is pointless but not having the emotional intelligence to understand or process it because the system is in place to separate you from yourself.
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L.a. Williams 3 years ago
Influencers. Hahaha. Why do these people have a job. To tell people what is in fashion. Sorry that is a useless profession. Please someone make it stop.
Return of Saturn 3 years ago
For me, it depends on which celeb! If you're talking about people who are like the Kardasians, then yea I agree. However, if you're talking about people who work their butt off to become actors, singers, etc. I personally disagree
Sergy Yeltsen 3 years ago
This needs to be number 1. Influencers are nothing but parasitic oxygen thieves, and the losers who follow and idolise them, just as bad.
Bodey Bigham 3 years ago
celebs sure. but to be fair to influencers most of their money comes from donations and video purchases so its not like they are scamming the system, they get payed by the people who like to watch them and those people decided that it is worth it. its not like they are getting paid by taxes and they are only getting payed by people who actually like their content.
David Windebank 3 years ago
You have spelled "influencers" incorrectly. It should be 'parasites' or 'freeloaders'.
Donna Morton 3 years ago
Influencers only make money because people follow them. I know they are making huge amounts of money for doing, well nothing. I also know that I couldn't name a single one of them. If we treated this "job" like it's actually worth then they would actually have to work.
#9
Since we’re talking athletes, I’d say the sports teams owners are way overcompensated. Just as one example, owners often blackmail cities into paying for new stadiums with tax dollars rather than making those renovations themselves.
Steve Fischer 3 years ago
Just stop going to the games, which are already beyond the budget of most families
Thaddeus Thompson 3 years ago
You expect the average American to amuse themselves? Lol
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Living Example 3 years ago
Just a note, not a troll. The highest paid state public employee in Ohio is the coach of the Ohio State football team
Tobin Kern 3 years ago
I mean, Ohio State generates a TON of revenue from the games and also generates a ton of tax income for the state. I don't know if its a bad thing that the coach who directs a successful team is rewarded for the income generation that his guidance directly affects
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David Roughton 3 years ago
Does anyone remember the NFLPA strike, from several years ago? After taxes were paid, the NFL had somewhere in the region of $9bn. $1bn, was allocated to player wages (32 teams, avg 54 players = 1,728 sharing $1bn) $500m went to admin & staff wages within the NFL itself. The remaining $7.5bn was distributed to the 32 team owners as a percentage based on WHERE their team ended in the season ranks.
Sharon Ingram 3 years ago (edited)
And aren’t they considered nonprofits? The NFL, NHL, PGA, NCAA, and Olympic Committee are all nonprofits. So Isfahan you buy tickets to a game shouldn’t you be able to claim it as a charitable donation?
Julius Zuke 3 years ago
Let the teams build their own stadiums. Use the money to rehab houses for the poor instead.
Kris Vandenberghe 3 years ago
Another example: utility companies generally blackmail cities and clients into paying for new infrastructure with their money rather than investing in it themselves.
#10
College administration. Don’t come begging me for money for your “alumni fund” (or, even worse, for feeding and clothing poor and hungry students - yep, they send me those emails) when I can’t pay off my student loans, and the Deputy Vice Provost of Student-Media Relations is bringing home hundreds of thousands of dollars a year - and there are dozens of them at every campus. Most instructors earn less than s**t, student housing is falling apart but God forbid some upper-level useless word salad of a title not get paid out the a**.
Steve Fischer 3 years ago
Professors and teachers, so important in passing on knowledge, are paid so little, nobody can afford to persue it as a career.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
I can't stand administrators useless. Anybody who teaches should be valued more than paper pushers
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Thomas Turnbull 3 years ago (edited)
teachers , headmasters and professors are paid way to much money and get all the holidays. They are always making excuses about working so hard when a lot of their work is covered by minimum wage teachers assistants in the UK.
Ruth Watry 3 years ago
And too many vice presidents at colleges (my uni went from 2 VPs to over 6 VPs the last 10 years)
Penni Sauer 3 years ago
i remember getting desperate phone calls from sincere young education majors begging for contributions to some fund to help the university. they called me because i am a graduate of their college of education. honestly, they should know better than to come begging to teachers. if the athletic side can afford big stadiums and such, then the academic side should be able to also.
yellowphantom 3 years ago
Even worse is what college coaches, for what are essentially commercial sport farm teams, are paid. They do nothing for actual education.
#11
Hospital administrators. They don't bring s**t to the table in terms of medical knowledge or patient care, dictate to medical professionals with years of education and experience how to do their jobs, and get paid the most to do it.
Vasana Phong 3 years ago (edited)
Was at my old job for 16 years, at a primary office for big hospital corp., the big hospital administrators would always come up with these plans and wants us to follow , without asking if it’ll really work, they got paid so much money for unrealistic ideas, I could’ve told them in every level it’s not gonna work, but I’m just a peasant
Jay Weigel 3 years ago
And worse than the CEOS are the "assistant administrators". There is no earthly f***ing excuse whatsoever for those people. NONE. They are just surplus. 99% of them have never touched a patient in their lives and have no earthly idea what we actually do, but they can sure think of ways to make actual patient care folks' jobs harder. They just like to prance around the halls in their fancy suits and tell us what to do when they have no earthly idea of what it is we actually do.
Sue Hazlewood 3 years ago
TBF they do a job that frees up true medical professionals who might otherwise have to do it. Talking about the lower paid staff here not the bosses.
Dave P 3 years ago
you want to get rid of them? Deregulate the Health Care Markey, as regulations increase, we need more admins, which raises costs. If we got rid of every regulation not related to patient care, safety, or privacy, we can cut 70-80% of all costs in the system. Dr. Marty Makary of Johns Hopkins Medical has a book about this
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
Yep, they don't care about patients or staff just that they get a bonus for looking out for the bottom line. This why people can't get much needed organ transplants. You have to meet sometimes ridiculous guidelines.
Steve Fischer 3 years ago
They provide nothing more than leaches, except they take more blood money out of the patient.
Kimi Tomminello 3 years ago
Leeches are a lot more useful in certain clotting situations.
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University football coaches. They are often the top paid education employees in their entire state, sometimes by a wide margin. And 99.9% of their students will never be paid to use the skills they teach in any capacity-- on the contrary, they're basically doing slave labor for the school. Meanwhile, professors doing actual academic work toil for years and make peanuts. Yeah, that'll probably be an unpopular opinion but IDGAF.
Stannous Flouride 3 years ago
In 48 states out of 50 the highest paid state employee is an athletics coach.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
It may be a unpopular opinion but it's completely true.
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Eric Mac Fadden 3 years ago
In Brazil someone pursuing a sports career is someone who doesn't wants to study at all. See our football (not soccer, it doesn't exists) and its "brilliant" players. The exceptions are too little I can't even remember one
Frank, I have a sick headache 3 years ago
But…but…but…Nick Saban leads the largest religion in Alabama. In addition the the absurd salary, the way UA football, Christianity and racist while people overlap in this state is mind boggling. IDGAF about any of them and people look at me like I’m the devil’s spawn.
Steve Fischer 3 years ago
I went to UCLA and it's obscene what our football coach makes. Just plain embarrassing!
Allison Skornick-Rose 3 years ago
1) Football and Men's Basketball Coaches at Div.I winning schools bring in far more $ than they are paid. From Television revenue, ticket sales, alumni donations, etc. (not to mention applicants to the school) their reach is far beyond that of just a "Coach". 2) those "unpaid/slave" student athletes often get free tuition, fees, books, meals, etc. so they are compensated for their time and efforts.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
Educators that teach real life skills should be paid more all teachers should.
#13
Board members.
Some get $70k to do a “part-time” job on the board with a work commitment of maybe 1 meeting per quarter. And many board members are on multiple boards because boards want people who are on other boards. These people then vote to raise their own and c-suite salaries. Source: worked at an executive search firm in admin on the board recruitment team. It’s disgusting the money/job incest that goes around.
Steve Fischer 3 years ago
I'm on the Board of Directors for our condominium. It's a lot of work and we don't get paid. Not even donuts at our monthly meeting!
Stannous Flouride 3 years ago
It's a slippery slope. First it's donuts, then it's croissants, then bagels, and BOOM! Suddenly it's the cold cuts, cheese, and fruit platters of corruption. /s
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Marco Hub-Dub 3 years ago
I’m an adjunct board member in a position my uncle & grandfather once held. It’s a legacy position for the company my great-grandfather founded, of which we have minor investment in and no other affiliations. I have absolutely zero power & get no real compensation, but the actual board members earn millions more than me. And all of them sit on other boards. It’s absolutely about image & presentation.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
I get it you need money but stop screwing your employees. 70 thousand dollars may seem like not much money to you with that I could buy a house. Help out people in my family who can't make ends meet without hunting. I could buy a car and afford gas. I could pay for wi-fi. I could but clothes that weren't from Wal-Mart. I could afford fresh fruits and vegetables. People don't understand that to most people that is a lot of money.
Paul Davis 3 years ago
I worked with a lady who had a degree bought and paid for by her parents from an Ivy League university. She was barely functionally literate (couldn't read and understand directions our high-school dropouts in the mailroom could!), but with her sex, ethnicity and Ivy League diploma she "serves" on multiple boards where she doesn't lift a finger to do anything at all except occasionally vote on something she barely understands, and rakes in the cash as a result.
Carolyn Solseth 3 years ago
I've been involved with boards for almost my entire career and have never seen a paid board member. Now I am on four boards and work my butt off as treasurer of three of them. Guess how much I make?
Carolyn Solseth 3 years ago
I'm on four different non profit boards and make nothing. I work really hard since I am the treasurer for 3 of them.
Karen Scheltema 3 years ago
It depends on the size of the corporation that you're a board member.
#14
Any sort of celebrity work, especially in the movie biz. Why is $4 million considered low?????
May 3 years ago
This one is tricky. 4 million is crazy amounts of money, but if the movie made a profit of 100 million, and most people bought a ticket to see their favourite star, is 4 million too much, or not enough? Who should be getting the 100 million? The producers? The writers?
Laura 3 years ago
Cut the outrageous salaries, cut the cost of theater tickets, and raise the salaries of the people who really make the magic happen- the camera operators, craft service workers, makeup, sound techs, etc etc etc.
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Bodey Bigham 3 years ago
to be fair to actors they work hard for that money sometimes even to the detriment of their health.
Dog Fanatic 3 years ago (edited)
There are good actors and bad actors. This one is debatable, because some people in the movie business work hard to earn money, some don't. All actors/actresses are really good, good, bad, or really bad. Some deserve money, some don't. It depends on the person. But, the writers and producers also deserve money for working hard, unless the movie is just downright terrible. And they might be overpaid sometimes, but it's just movie biz, like you said.
Brafne Heiwer 3 years ago
Exactly. Imagine the Lord of The Rings without it's quality actors.
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Patti Fraser 3 years ago
thier pay should be based on the amount of time and dialogue and the dollar take in of the movie
Andy Hinds 3 years ago
Actors get a percentage of the royalties of a movie's sales. That's how it works. Same as musicians and album sales and live work.
David Roughton 3 years ago (edited)
Blame Harrison Ford for this. He was THE 1st actor to ask for a % of the movies' take (in 1977). He told George Lucas, that if Star Wars flopped, he would get NOTHING. But if (as he believed), it would break records, he would then be paid 3% of the GROSS. It made him a $$$millionaire & changed the way actors negotiated contracts.
Shelli Aderman 3 years ago
Stay and watch all of the credits sometime, because the film industry hires hundreds, if not thousands of people! 💕
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
I get it you have a talent. People want to be entertained. However whoever thinks millions of dollars is fair compensation remember you got into this because you love it. Not sure how much actors get paid for Broadway plays it's probably not as much as a movie. Take a cue from the late Robin Williams. Who would go out of his way to help the homeless. You will still get famous.
#15
Private military contractors. They get paid significantly more than actual troops and are far less accountable.
Thomas Jones 3 years ago
Government loves contractors because they can be cut loose at any time and aren't owed anything once they're no longer working. 40 pay-years of a contractor is less than a career plus retirement of an actual soldier ( or civilian employee). Plus, the individual contractor makes significantly less than is paid to the contracting company for that contractor.
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Which should never be true our troops put their lives on the line for as little as 20 thousand dollars. Hell if serve 20 years you still have co-pays. Veterans have at least 6 months for a appointment. Private contractors should not be a thing. Trust me I'm a military brat my son is in the military. Sorry if I think my dad and my son lives are worth 20 thousand dollars.
Jim Wamsley 3 years ago
The government never gets a good value from anything they outsource. The contractor will be coming back time and time again for more money to keep the profits high. This is true of all parts of government.
Hrefna Frederiksen 3 years ago
Reversely, they also often don´t have access to the same help as regular troops.
Salty Wild Hair 3 years ago
Welcome to the military industrial complex, where nothing they do is illegal nor inhumane. And people who dont deal with them will ever believe a word of some of the things those of us in uniform have seen them do (and reported it).
David Woollands 3 years ago
They probably get stuff done properly first time and with little issues
Tobin Kern 3 years ago
^ absolutely true. Especially when you hear stories from Vets about how 99% of their service time was wasted doing meaningless tasks just to stay busy.
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Right now, travel nurses. I’m a travel nurse and I ain’t complaining at all, but we’re definitely overpaid. I’m taking home about $4000 a week at the moment for 36 hours. I do not do $4000 worth of work in those 36 hours. We’re overpaid because hospital greed finally bit them in the a** and I’m here for it baby. Underpay all your staff, everyone’s gonna quit and you’ll have to pay travelers insane rates. Treat people better or just live with this as a reality. I’ll take these rates as long as they’re there.
Billy Allen 3 years ago
Yeah it's been temporary for far to many years and isn't going away anytime soon.
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Tracy Wallick 3 years ago
Nurses absolutely deserve to be paid that much for all that you do. You're not overpaid, regular nurses are severely underpaid.
Jerry Mathers 3 years ago
I have no problem with nurses making money like this. It's the $30/pill aspirin and all the other gouging that gets me.
Diane VanAmburg 3 years ago
I disagree. Every nurse should be paid more than Hollywood. Know your worth.
Mary Jeffries 3 years ago
I’ve watched you travel nurses fill in the gaps at my hospital and I love you all! Different charting, staff and hospital protocols is immensely stressful. I’m a very good nurse with a lot of experience and I simply don’t have the mental bandwidth to handle what you do. Keep up your good work!
Bubs623 3 years ago
I disagree with this one because hospitals brought it on themselves by not paying their own staff livable wages. The nurses leave because they are treated like crap at their hospital, so they go to an agency that puts the screws to the hospitals that are now under staffed. Travel Nurses aren't making hospitals pay the agencies so much - it's the hospitals doing it to themselves.
Wintermute 3 years ago
I'd rather pay a part time nurse 4k a week than a full time wall street bro a single dime.
#17
Russian Oligarch.
Hunter 3 years ago
Technically, the oligarchs are just the CEO of a company, but they can dictate their own salary.
Load More Replies... Steve Fischer 3 years ago
Having money you can't spend now is the same as having no money at all. And besides that, you're a filthy warmonger criminal. Go Ukraine!!!
georgios pahatouridis 3 years ago
Is they are russians they are "oligarchs". If they are from the USA they are entrepreneurs that started from their mother's basement.
georgios pahatouridis 3 years ago
ah! You don´t know this? American billionaires are not "oligarchs". they are self made entrepreneurs that started from their mother's basement... not
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University administrations. They're constantly making up new positions with 6 figure salaries while raising tuition.
Steve Fischer 3 years ago
The cost to students for higher education has gotten completely out of control
Pamela Blue 3 years ago
This is deliberate. The banks and loan companies are in it for the long haul (and the cash). The higher the tuition, the more loans they make, the more money coming in. Education doesn't even factor into it.
Load More Replies... Paul Davis 3 years ago
The U.S. government made it impossible to escape from student loans and since companies started demanding Bachelors' degrees for dishwashers everyone is going into debt getting degrees so they can get a job.
Emily Dodson 3 years ago
The staff gets shafted at universities. The admins get paid the big bucks and give us maybe a $0.25/hr raise every 2-3 years.
Salty Wild Hair 3 years ago
This an artificial raise in costs so they can be elevated to the system's standards. These are the same people who will take cash from those Russian oligarchs and "build a new lab" so the government can get them to participate in scientific experiments that they should never be doing or developing technology or doing research for the government whose proxy is a foundation. All the forward the plan.
RafCo 3 years ago
That's all of our faults. I make a very good salary working as an engineer. I have an Art degree, no engineering degrees. I did have to get a license, but that was a test, no formal education required. I learned everything on the job working under really smart people. We need to bring back apprenticeship programs for highly skilled labour.
Grady'sRaider 3 years ago
If corporations want to sit on the board of an educational institution so they can cherry pick graduates, they should pay for the privilege.
bumble bee 3 years ago
When tuition, fees, costs of books, got too high in the past, the students would protest.
#19
I was recently a juror in a civil case where someone was trying to get money out of someone else from an accident. In my state, you have to have sustained a "permanent injury" in order to be awarded anything so both sides hired medical experts to provide testimony about the injury.
(Edit: I've gotten some comments about this part. This is after the "fault" case which is completely different. We were instructed that fault had already been determined and was not in the scope of the case. This was only about the "permanent injury" part of the case. Nothing criminal or at fault was a factor here. All of the initial medical bills and whatnot had been settled. This was about ongoing permanent damage.)
As part of the video testimony, they ask the doctors various questions like how many times they've done surgeries for injuries like this in order to prove they are experts, where they were trained, etc etc. All is well and fine.
THEN they ask them how much they are being paid for the testimony. BOTH doctors said $1000 an hour with a minimum of 5 hours. BOTH doctors said they record these kinds of testimonies several times a month. BOTH doctors said they only practice or do surgeries 50% of their time because they spend the rest making these videos.
Of course, the doctors then proceeded to provide completely opposite opinions based on who hired them.
These guys get paid hundreds of thousands a year, maybe millions, just to say they agree with whichever side hired them so as a juror it's up to us to decide who to believe on our own with zero medical training.
Mohsie Supposie 3 years ago
TL;DR: "Medical experts" providing testimony in personal injury cases charging $1000 an hour with a minimum of 5 hours... for EACH side of the case.
Wintermute 3 years ago
Professional witnesses should be paid the equivalent of juror's fees, and be compelled to testify if applicable to the case. If it's an outside consultant, they should be vetted and paid BY THE COURT, not the lawyers.
jk nbt 3 years ago (edited)
in Texas where I live, it is almost impossible to get a doctor to testify against another doctor... If you do this, there will be retaliation of the worst vindictive sort. Some doctors have eventually lost their licenses after the state medical review board takes highly politically oriented revenge & retribution. If a doctor really hurts somebody, the injured party will go to a nearby state for treatment with a doctor who agrees to testify against the Texas doctor if warranted. This avoids the vindictive retribution by the state medical board, since the doctor providing the damaging testimony is from out of state. Step carefully if you and your lawyer decide to go this route in a personal injury case where the doctor is liable. And yes, doctors screw up all the time. They bury their mistakes, the joke goes. You will have a really hard time getting a nurse to testify against a doctor for the same reason. That is why they all have to pay huge malpractice insurance fees, as much as 1/3 of their gross income.
Bodey Bigham 3 years ago
all while the juror isn't getting paid anything. not even enough to cover gas. let alone your time off work.
Marco Hub-Dub 3 years ago (edited)
Give me the data and tell me how you want it manipulated. I can skew the perception of statistics in any way you want it.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
In general any injury that needs surgery is permanent. What ever the doctor repaired it's not the way the body works it helps but doesn't go away. I have a fusion in my back. It helped but now the disks are wearing away. The screws and metal rubs wrong.
Marguerite Barnett 3 years ago
That is why i volunteer to do expert witnessing. There is an organization trying to do this so our testimony is not corrupted by the money.
#20
100% influencers. I understand the argument that they provide companies a ton of value and so that is why their pay is so high. However, the actual value they provide society, in general, is... negligible to none. I mean, you could argue they provide entertainment, but most influencers are making the majority of their money from sponsorships and brand deals, not views. Some still do rely mainly on adsense, and they're still making decent money, but not the bank that the ones who get sponsors on every video or post do.
Brafne Heiwer 3 years ago
Remember when tiktok was almost banned? Maybe then influencers would have gotten real jobs at least.
Peej Maybe 3 years ago
Agree that they are a parasitic bunch who've never worked a proper job (and don't tell me updating your social media feeds to promote crap is 'a proper job') - Sadly they will always exist as long as there are people stupid enough to click on their channels, videos or instagram feeds but never come up to me and introduce your job as 'influencer' and expect me to keep a straight face.
Eric Lafleur 3 years ago
Then I'm an unsponsored influencer (part-time). I like a restaurant I went to last week? I give a good review. Sometimes the owners take time to read those and give us a thank you, hope to see you back soon. Asking for money so you can tell you like the place? I call that freeloader's prostitution.
Bodey Bigham 3 years ago
you need to realize though that they only get paid by sponsors if they get a lot of views saying they make too much from ads is like saying that people who sell billboards make too much money.
#21
School administration boards. Teachers do the heavy lifting, yet a lot of these bodies routinely deduct their pay for “resources” for the school. Why is it that these academic politicians make more money than the people teaching our future? There would be no school without teachers, but there can be a school without administration bodies
Steve Fischer 3 years ago
Teachers just can't even make the median wage in this country. So sad
RafCo 3 years ago
I know people on our school board. They are unpaid volunteers, who have to pay to campaign for that privilege. Once they're in office, they get regular death threats from antivaxx and anti-mask psychos. My wife is a local elected official, also unpaid. The number of death and rape threats sent to our home is unreal.
Karen Lyon 3 years ago
@RafCo: I am so sorry that you have to go through that. Two of our school board members have decided not to run for another term because of s**t like that. It's scary and infuriating.
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LoveThePanda 3 years ago
And these people wouldn't be who they are without a TEACHER!!! Most underpaid profession EVER!!!
Julius Zuke 3 years ago
And they contribute little to the classroom. Imagine wanting to write a grant for your school, but the person in charge of grant writing tells you to write it yourself. Why is this person needed, then?
Weasel Wise 3 years ago
That was the only time my rent was ever late was those five years I was a teacher.
Shauna Clodfelter 3 years ago
Our school board doesn't get paid at all. And our Administration earns every penny- especially in the last 3 years.
#22
Lottery commissioner makes 500k a yr. Overpaid is understating.
Vasana Phong 3 years ago
What do they actually do?? Sometimes certain jobs seems self sufficient
Gavin Johnson 3 years ago
They look after the balls when they aren’t in the machine.
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Jim Wamsley 3 years ago
Lottery commissioner is responsible for a lot of money. That number sounds like a bargain.
#23
Most upper management in an office setting. I have had jobs where I have multiple bosses and only one really understands what the people that work for them actually do.
Paul Davis 3 years ago
I worked in a company where all the managers would go offsite for one week each year for a management retreat. Our productivity and profitability always skyrocketed during that week, according to all the reports -- because we didn't have these incompetent loons interfering with the operation for a whole week. The fact was clear that we could have those people still collecting their salaries and just refraining from dragging us down with their constant stupidity, and the whole business would improve dramatically.
Janet Floyd 3 years ago
Oh, I so agree with this! You can get so much more done when they're not calling everyone in for pointless meetings, sending out nonsense emails, and stopping by desks and offices to shoot the breeze.
Load More Replies... David Woollands 3 years ago
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Thomas Jones 3 years ago
The increase in self-directed working necessitated by COVID related increase in telework really exposed a lot of that and is part of why such managers are SO eager to get people back to the office where they can be actively managed.
Melissa Hollowell 3 years ago
At a previous employer we would get an email around every 3 months or so about promotions. Always the same 4 folks getting new, shiny titles but never seemed to be doing anything different in terms of duties.
An Co 3 years ago
Upper management makes the big decisions, which basically get made only a couple times a year. They get paid well because if they make the right decisions, they make a lot more for the company than anyone else. The real issue is that they get paid the same if they make the wrong decisions, costing the company, and rarely get fired. They only lose when someone screws up so bad the company goes under.
Salty Wild Hair 3 years ago
There were no management personnel on the ground when the bomb went off in Afghanistan. Only the people who worked for those upper line supervisors were among the casualties.
David Woollands 3 years ago
One - your lucky - we often have none that know how to do any of the basics
#24
Paparazzi. Some get paid thousands to harass people trying to go about their everyday life.
shodokai 3 years ago
Paparazzi are professional stalkers. Can't belive this s**t is still legal.
Mike Beck 3 years ago (edited)
It's not. But stalking (or harassment) has to be proven on a case-by-case basis so it's worth the risk to them.
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Andy Hinds 3 years ago
Add to that just tabloid journalists and editors because their jobs are incredibly dishonourable for writing such utter rubbish.
#25
I have never seen a hardworking competent HR department, but they get paid the same or more like folks who do 10x the work.
DennyS (denzoren) 3 years ago
I work in HR so I might be biased but I'm severely underpaid and always have to deal with the sh*t show after the executive mess up.
Kimi Tomminello 3 years ago
I imagine you get hate from both sides- corporate and employees. It's like middle management. Everyone hates you and your pay is never enough. Good luck to you.
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Julius Zuke 3 years ago
Depends on the company. I worked for a large, major school system, and there was only ONE person to handle all of the retirements. She was a good person. I felt bad that her workload was so huge.
Donae Sommerfeld Lugo 3 years ago
As someone in HR, I find most employees have no idea what actually entails the work that goes on in HR and what is done behind the scenes that isn't thought about or realized. I won't comment on how much time and patience it takes to listen to some complaints that are too petty for words.
Eric Lafleur 3 years ago
And yet they are the last to go when there's a massive lay-off. "Understand that we need to cut costs"... Why not start with those big paychecks first, they're never the ones that knows how to work on the equipments anyway. I'm a CNC machinist and none of them knows how to make our parts.
James Arvidson 3 years ago
Usually end up in HR after failing at everything else. Then the few that go into it on purpose that are acyually good at it. Few and far between.
#26
Real estate agents, especially for buyers. Literally every piece of information a buyer's agent can give you is readily available on Redfin.
Their only real responsibility is to unlock the front door and provide a checklist of things that need to be done before closing (which is exactly the same for 95% of purchases). For this, they get paid 2-3% of the purchase price, meaning it's in their best interest for you to buy the most expensive house possible.
The Penguin Bandit 3 years ago
Not necessarily true. In a seller's market, the realtor's ranking and reputation can heavily influence whether your bid gets accepted or not. And in a buyer's market, a great realtor spends tons of time helping get the house ready for sale. But I can see this bring true for crappy realtors who just got into it for the money.
Janos Schumacher 3 years ago
My agent was great on both my houses that I've owned. I didn't do a damn thing. He was a nice older guy that explained everything clearly. I never lifted a finger other than to sign documents. Even for those, I never had to drive. He'd drive to my work then drive to my wife's work. Or he'd drive to my house. He made sure that everything was perfect with no work on my part. He paid for the inspector. He paid for the title search. He sold my old house and got me my current one. He was absolutely worth it.
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Hansjørgen Buhrkall 3 years ago
Not completely true; we had a buyer agent, that were being payed X% for whatever amount he could get us a reduction in the asking price... he also handled all the legal documents for us.
Evil Little Thing 3 years ago
Twice I've bought property in other states far away from me. Both times the help I got from real estate agents made it totally worth it
Cyd Charisse 3 years ago
This is terrible advice! The seller pays the buyer's agent's commission (in most states), so, if you choose not to use an agent, that money NOT money that the buyer will save. The seller pays (typically) a 5-6% commission. That seller's agent will keep half, and offer half to buyers' agents to entice them to bring a ready and willing offer. So, as a buyer, if you don't want to use an agent, you're NOT doing yourself any favors! That money will go to the seller's agent (you know, the person representing the OTHER PARTY'S interests). Biggest mistake is to not use a buyer's agent
tuzdayschild 3 years ago
Here's the thing. Some people can't or don't want to do the work. So they hire someone who will. They also help people weed through the banking redtape.
An Co 3 years ago
Depends on the market a LOT. A seller's agent can help you set the asking price, something which is very important. They also handle a lot of the burecratic stuff people do not know about, such as title search. A buyer's agent on the other hand is less arguable. They do a lot less, besides perhaps showing you comparable places. But the buyer does not pay them, per se, the Seller's agent splits their commission with them.
Andy Hinds 3 years ago
They actually get less than that. It's about 2% of 5%. My girlfriend is a realtor and she could put me straight on this. It takes a long time for a realtor to earn any real big bucks.
Eva Sawyer 3 years ago
I disagree with this as well. I happily paid my real estate agent to navigate all the legal paperwork involved in the purchase of a house. With this last home purchase she actually found an error that would have cost me big bucks. The peace of mind of knowing that everything is done right in my opinion is totally worth it.
#27
Talking heads on the news A lot of them are paid to read most of the time.
Penni Sauer 3 years ago
i get so irritated when people paid to read copy for a living can't even manage to get it right. and who to blame for atrocious grammar, the reader or the writer?
Violet MacConnell 3 years ago (edited)
To get a job as an anchor generally takes years or decades of working at s**t newspapers in s**t towns, then slightly less shitter towns local news while making s**t money. You work long hours and weird hours. As an anchor people call in daily complaining how they didn't like your hair or outfit and makeup. I have no problem with how much they get paid. They also bring in lot of money in ads and viewers for the networks potentially. Also believe it or not reading the news live can be challenging. Now I'm not saying there isn't plenty of bs or perhaps the pay for some anchors is nuts. But there are two sides. I speak from being a journalist in the past and have a good chunk of journalist friends.
Thaddeus Thompson 3 years ago (edited)
They are there to offer you peace of mind. To make sense of this complicated world. To tell you where to aim your frustrations. To make you feel like all of this is real.
#28
I am a handyman that charges $50/hr with a 3hr minimum, a couple of months ago I got a call for service that consisted of changing 9 smoke detector batteries, 2 light bulbs, and re-hanging a picture. I felt bad taking the money but the guy couldn’t have been happier to have that stuff finally done. He asked for my card and is now a very good client
Otter 3 years ago (edited)
Sometimes I'm happy to pay someone to do something I just don't want to do myself, like my comparatively simple taxes. In these situations take the easy money and don't feel guilty!
User# 6 3 years ago
^This^ I don't mind paying for convience, especially if it saves some of my time.
Load More Replies... Tracy Wallick 3 years ago
As someone with both depression and ADHD, sometimes it's worth it to spend the money to stop worrying/feeling guilty about something that I just can't get done myself for whatever reason.
Mer☕️🧭☕️ 3 years ago
Totally understand - when money can buy peace, it's totally worth it.
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Cactus McCoy 3 years ago
That's not overpaid. It's fair money for good work. 150 bucks including comute time for three hours of work? I'd hire him anytime.
albernistuff 4sale 3 years ago
I don't mind paying for reliable and efficient delivery of services IF the price is fair. I am a professional in my field with 30 years experience; I can also do most car repairs and maintenance, so it is cheaper for me to take an unpaid day to fix my own car, than it is to take to a mechanic, even if it take 3 me times as long. Same thing goes for many house repairs. I WISH I could hire the pro's, but they charge 4-5 times my wage.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
Yes the person has thought it through. You provided a service and they payed you your agreed upon amount. My husband and I are both disabled and some jobs neither of us can do. Paying someone is the only choice and it's easier than trying to get a family member.
Donna Clanclan 3 years ago
Honestly, I understand why someone would pay for this the older I get. We have money for a house cleaning service right now, I'm so tempted. It would probably be just the once for this year, but to have all the heavy spring cleaning done without all the pain....
Susan Reid Smith 3 years ago
We're not only paying for the time and skills, but also for the use of the tools we don't have.
Thomas Jones 3 years ago
I pay to have someone go up and de-muck my gutters: the cost of having someone else do it is FAR less than I'd pay if I fell two stories off a ladder and far less than I'd lose if laid up for injury. I'm paying for someone else to assume the risk.
Bodey Bigham 3 years ago
I mean while that might have been an easy day most days are probably a lot harder and well worth the money for your client.
#29
So I lifeguard in an upper-class neighborhood. I charge 50$/hr and usually stay around 3 hr. All the kids can swim, and if they can’t they are with their parents. It’s awesome
Big Blue Cat 3 years ago
I hope this person understands the responsibility of a life guard. A kid capable of swimming could drown. A kid watched by parents could drown while a parent is occupied on the phone for 2 minutes.
Bodey Bigham 3 years ago
most lifeguards risk their lives to save people. if you have ever tried to save someone from drowning you should know that they are worth every cent they make and probably more. just because you got lucky to not have to save someone yet doesn't mean that's how it usually is.
Annamagelic 3 years ago (edited)
I had this job when I was in college. Worst job I ever had! I quit and picked up more hours at my YMCA job for 1/4th the pay instead. Responsibility without authority is a nightmare. Lifeguardings isn't about dramatic flashy rescues, it's making sure people follow the rules and act safely to avoid emergencies. The people who are paying $$$$$ for their fancy private pool club membership or personal back yard lifeguard are not about to listen to what "the help" tells them, or their children, to do.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
This is peace of mind for parents. I hope you are never needed but sometimes accidents do happen. When I was ten a boy jumped on me just as I came up for air. You never know. That's why they pay you. If you don't know how to do cpr sigh up asap. You don't want that on your conscience.
#30
Selling online sleep training courses. Write up an e-document on “how to get baby to sleep,”-sell said document for 10-20$- pray on sleep-deprived desperate parents, rack in the cash.
Glirpy 3 years ago (edited)
How is this any different than writing and selling a book? You can make this same argument about anything at all. "How to make the best meat loaf ever." I don't see people just posting random information online raking in cash. You can literally do a Google search and pull up thousands of free websites that have the same information. Unless they are plagiarizing the info, I don't see anything wrong with trying to make money for writing up what they've learned.
Sharon Ingram 3 years ago
Book’s already been written and it’s great….”The Happiest Baby on the Block.”
#31
In college, I housesat often for a little wiener dog in a pretty fancy house. Being in college, I usually napped during any free time, so the dog would sleep on my chest when I lay on the floor to sleep. His "mother" typically paid me at least $100 for maybe 4-6 hours of sitting every time.
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
Who wouldn't want to snuggle a wêênie dog for $100 a day. I had the most amazing miniature dachshund and a Scottish Terrier and they were both my heart. I'd spend time with dogs for money, probably even free.
Load More Replies... Paul Davis 3 years ago (edited)
Yeah this is not really comparable to the other posts of multimillionaires who got rich ripping people off or conning them.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
Pets don't like to be alone so if she has the money take it. You need the money. She has it.
Homer Jay 3 years ago (edited)
Not at all. A person is there not only for watching the dog but operating the house. Even if not phisically usign the switches you are there to permit sun light, warm and correct air flow changes dunring the day whithout owning a complicated technical system or slaves. Houses and intruders are no joke.
#32
Consultants. There are consultants for everything.
Robert T 3 years ago
Yes and no. Good ones are worth their money. Bad ones cost money. Just because someone calls themselves a consultant doesn't automatically make them any good. But those who do know their stuff and have experience doing what they do can save you falling into a lot of the traps that befall the less experienced.
Eric Mac Fadden 3 years ago
There are some things consulting is very necessary, like financial consultants. But I already gave a lot of consulting (lightly, of course) in video production area several times for some friends only... for free. I'm happy when my colleagues are going well and it suffices me
DennyS (denzoren) 3 years ago
Consultants are important though, namely the good ones. They are consultants because of their years of experience.
#33
Marketing people. My wife makes almost $200,000 and is just a director. She hires people out of college at $70,000. I went into the wrong business.
Mindghost 3 years ago
What does "just a director" indicate here? A director position is not much or what?
Gavin Johnson 3 years ago
Or that husband needs to diminish his well paid wife’s role?
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To be fair, that 'Just a director' carries loads of responsibility and is probably working non-stop, or at least more than 40 hours/week. The directors I've been in contact with all work way more/harder than I do (not out of choice) and carry way more of the responsibility, so I understand why I don't earn the same wage as them.
Paul Davis 3 years ago
The marketing people I worked with did nothing but scour marketing publications to steal other marketing peoples' ideas.
Phil Vaive 3 years ago
Yeah, marketing director is basically the top of the marketing chain (just under VP) and is an incredibly important position. Marketing can make or break a company, and most marketing professionals I know work their asses off.
#34
Hedge fund manager
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
Should roast in hell every time they cheat someone out of money. I mean like now not after you die.
#35
HR gets Paid pretty well for what they actually do.
Peej Maybe 3 years ago
Agree with this one. Useless to you in any situation where you need them to step in and help you with a work-based grievance which would actually justify their pay.
Paul Davis 3 years ago
Which many HR people simply are utterly unhelpful with from the employee point of view. I agree a good HR person tries to reduce friction between employees and management and prevent lawsuits, regulatory fines, destructive turnover and performance losses due to poor morale. But all too often they don't try to do any of that at all, and the idiots managing the company actually prefer them that way because they don't understand how much their despicable attitudes is costing them.
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Momma Panda 3 years ago
With no real responsability if they hired the wrong person.. agree 100%
#36
Realtors. South Park episode summed up how easy the job can be.
jk nbt 3 years ago (edited)
It is hard for real estate agents to earn a living, unless they are well-connected with very rich clients and sell only top dollar properties in the most exclusive neighborhoods. Only the top 2% reach this level. The broker's agent's main job is to find a buyer. Then they handle the negotiations so the two parties can work together. Then they work with the title company to provide the endless stream of forms that have to be signed by both parties. Then they help with the loan process. Then they help expedite the closing. Some states require that a lawyer be involved in the process, so you have to put up with their uppity lawyer crap. This may take several days every month for months to make this all happen. If they list a $100,000 house and see it through to closing, an agent may only net out a whopping $1500 for all that work. The rest goes to the agent's managing broker and to the buyers brokerage firm. The agent has to pay all expenses for listing out of their own pocket, so deduct another $200 to $500 for all the listing expenses. And you think your little sales agent is overpaid? Get real.
#37
My mother's friend (who is a very elderly lady) once paid me $200 to just spend the day with her at her house. I didn't even have to clean or do anything like that. Just sit and keep her company. I felt kinda bad honestly. Haven't seen her in a while and I wonder how she's doing sometimes.
Edit: I just wanted to add that I was still in high school at the time and was pressured into by my mother. I regret taking the money but it DID help pay for college. She was very rich so spending the 200 didn't hurt her but I still regret it and I never really reached it again because life kinda got in the way.
Vasana Phong 3 years ago
If you ever see an elderly person out and about in any scenario, and they start up a conversation and keep on going, please don’t ignore them, they just need company and a conversation, most of them are alone
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
They only need someone to listen. They have also lived in times you haven't and been through everything. They have the most interesting stories. It's worth the time
Load More Replies... Steve Fischer 3 years ago
You had a nice lady help you out for college. She could have gotten laid for less.
Huddo's sister 3 years ago
That's what used to be referred to as a 'companion'. Usually the ladies were rich spinsters who wanted someone to read to them or accompany them on holidays. In a way I think this should still be a common role, but unpaid. So many older people are cut off from society and it damages their mental and physical health. It is a great kindness to have this sort of connection with someone.
Jette Wang Wahnon 3 years ago
Actually many countries in Europe have this service through The Social Service...Works with volunteers giving a few hours of their time every week...a win-win situation as so many elderly/old have so much to tell of their past.
Load More Replies... L.a. Williams 3 years ago
That's not bad she wanted company. Sometimes loneliness can make you depressed. Medications for that are more expensive and often harder on a elderly person. I think this is more valuable than influencers.
#38
I started working in a liquor store and tbh I think sommeliers are waaaay overpaid. At least in the states, where most people just drink boxed wine. Lol.
Stannous Flouride 3 years ago
The famous "Two-buck Chuck" test gave unmarked samples of cheap and expensive wines to a panel of 'experts' who failed again and again to tell the difference between them.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
Yep, there job is to sell you the most expensive wine under the guise of being a expert.
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#39
A lot of people are saying influencers but don’t realize most of them are broke and it’s just a fabricated image.
Paul Davis 3 years ago
The majority of the population is too dumb and gullible to know how fake all that is.
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Eric Mac Fadden 3 years ago
I work in the agriculture media for 10 years now. We have REAL influencers here, experts in the area - not a dumb model of "how to be like me and buy what I say" - and they're underpaid to bring real information for an audience
#40
Data scientist in big tech boyooooo (especially product/analytics side instead of ML-focused)
Not nearly as technically demanding as software engineering and not as taxing on time as product management, but paid in the same ballpark.
Plenty of other roles/careers bring a relevant skill set so it's doable to break-in
Easy 200-300k+ for 30 hrs/week
jk nbt 3 years ago
so where is this job anyway? All the high tech jobs I am aware of are with companies where the managers expect a minimum of 60 hrs/wk.... if you only work your 40 hrs/wk, they will fire you for laziness. Some of them are so exploitative, you have to consistently work 90 hrs/wk to get promoted...
#41
One night I babysat three kids for about 2 hours or so. The kids went to bed when I got there, and the parents had left dinner out for me, so all I did was eat their food and watch their TV, and pet their dogs.
When they got home the mom paid me $100. I told her that was way too much. She slurred "Don't worry about it, I'm drunk." And then I noticed her fly was down.
So that was the most overpaid job ever lol.
Momma Panda 3 years ago
As a parent I don't agree. We pay for tranquility knowing that someone we trust is there for our children while we are out. Worth every penny.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
No the need to talk to another adult with out child interruptions is very important. And knowing someone is watching is old enough to take control. I'd rather pay a sitter to be there than hire someone unreliable. So think seriously because we need our children safe. But glad you aren't a babysitter that invites people over. I think you will find most parents will pay you well for your time.
Huddo's sister 3 years ago
I used to do a lot of similar work, just without them coming home drunk. I read sooo many books in that time!
Tim Douglass 3 years ago
Seems overpaid until the night you are dozing with the dogs in front of the TV and the smoke alarm starts blaring and you run upstairs and the hall is full of smoke and suddenly you, at age 15, are responsible for getting 3 small children out of the house alive and getting the fire department called all without losing your mind. At that moment the pay scale seems a lot more reasonable.
#42
IT consultants. I’m about to get 100k USD a year, and that’s 37.5h work weeks and about 30 days of vacation per year.
Andrew Ra 3 years ago (edited)
As an IT consultant I can say you are wrong! In order to get to do consulting jobs you need to get to a level of understanding that requires a lot of years (more than 10) of experience and know how. This on top of a university degree and masters. Then it's the overall factor, how much does it cost a company to have "problem" and fix it. I can spend 10minutes on something and fix it, while their department spends hours. Depends on the country too, what does it get to be able to call yourself an IT consultant. This is valid for all jobs, education and experience require allot of time but are paid well because of the impact.
Tu Lam 3 years ago
A good consult can make or break a project. I've seen it at my job. Our best programmer is a consultant, he goes from project to project helping keep everyone on track. Then we've had some really bad ones that didn't know what they're doing and derailed everything and got kicked out. It also depends on a company if they have a need for a long term position. Sometimes you only need a person a few hours a month and these consults fill the necessary function without needing to be a full time employee
Load More Replies... Robert T 3 years ago
Depends very much on the quality of the consultant. There is also a big disparity between what consulting organizations charge out at versus what they pay their staff. Back in the dot com boom, I charged out at £1,200/day for many weeks at a time, but didn't get paid anything like that. It was worth it to companies wanting to adopt new technology to bring us in, as we had taken the time to learn the technology and had already applied it elsewhere, whilst they were using it for the first time as they had experts onsite. I work for myself now, and don't charge out at anything like that any more, but if you want to hire someone with the level of experience I have, then that is what you will have to pay.
Homer Jay 3 years ago
Still too low given the security treats. Stop giving companies ways to pay us less.
#43
My old job. It was for the government to set up audio-visual equipment. I literally got paid to sit on my a** and do absolutely nothing for around $30 an hour. Maybe a good 20-30 minutes out of the day on average I would be on my feet doing something. Usually, I was just watching videos on YouTube or doing things on the computer. I could literally leave and no one knew I was gone. I would George Castanza it up and sleep under my desk. Yes, it sounds great but I was extremely undervalued as an employee and my supervisors (aside from one who was absolutely awesome) really could care less about me. Also, the other employees in the building thought that we were stupid so they always looked down on us. Sometimes I would have to sit in this dark room that had a computer but it was very depressing. I finally changed jobs a couple of years back for something more challenging and rewarding. I can finally say that I am in a position where my input is valued and I am really accomplishing something. Every day brings something new and I am pleased with my current compensation.
Eric Mac Fadden 3 years ago
I worked in the area and I can say if you know how to solve a problem when it shows up, you're a good professional. I love being in a dark room on a computer... I actually do that (and work my ass off from 9 AM to 11 PM editing, composing audio and video). People depresses me
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
The government cannot afford for computers to be down. You were more important than you knew. Sorry some people thought you were useless. In reality you probably made sure that if an emergency occurred information that might be crucial to any number of people. Don't under value your self.
#44
Software Sales. I did it for 20 years. You are a glorified secretary for software engineers who do all the real selling to other engineers. It’s a complete joke
Paul Davis 3 years ago
You did it wrong -- most of the successful ones sell software to the engineers' managers, who don't know a damned thing about IT and force their engineers to implement the bad software they just bought. The magic words are "it will make a million dollars a minute and you don't have to hire any additional staff or spend a second setting it up!" It doesn't matter that is complete horseshit, the manager will get mad at his staff and accuse them of laziness when they try to tell them the software does nothing, costs a lot to set up, is poorly supported, is incompatible with existing systems, and even requires constant expensive maintenance. The manager's ego will trump all of that.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
Good old managers. How difficult can I make every one else's life.
Load More Replies... #45
After high school when I was job hunting, I was strolling around on indeed when I saw a job opportunity to be a dog poop scooper. You literally drove around in a company van going to big homes scooping people's dog's turds for 20 something an hour. I was in shock and almost applied immediately.
Paul Davis 3 years ago
This is not underpaid but sounds like a great thing if you know someone who needs decent paying work. Certainly would beat hell out of many other difficult and poor-paying jobs.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
Some people don't have time or energy to clean up. So not as crazy as it seems. Some people have a hard time like elderly or disabled. So yes this is better than a paper pusher in a office. At least your job was helpful.
Jette Wang Wahnon 3 years ago
Dream of a job ! I scoop from my two Greys several times a day and never thought it a career choice....there are challenges though...upset tummy on un-moved grass...
#46
Marriage counseling. Marriage counselor here.
AnxietyRiddenMom 3 years ago
If you have a good therapist, they really can make a difference. Therapy isn't about just talking, it's about setting goals and making plans to get to those goals.
L.a. Williams 3 years ago
No it can be very important to have an objective person to help you figure it out. Why your communication is failing.
Glirpy 3 years ago
If a couple goes to marriage counseling, I have never heard of that couple coming out of it and staying married for more than another year at the most. If there are problems to begin with, they typically are not solved just by talking about them, especially with another person.
#47
As a Software Engineer. I would say us. I went to a Bootcamp I make between 100-200k and I didn't even graduate college. As someone who used to work for 15 an hour pouring concrete, I will tell you they are not even close to equal my job is pretty dope.
That being said you have to be driven to do it and have a mind for it or at least the stubbornness to push through the learning curve. I would not say the work is hard but I won't say it's for everyone and there are other ways to make money. This is just the one I found for myself. I do think it's a mistake to try to get a job in tech if you hate it because you will probably burn out long before you ever start making money.
Tu Lam 3 years ago
Not everyone can actually code well. See this at my work all the time. We have one team in particular that can't get their software updated to the newest release. They're our biggest problem as the rest of us needs to figure out things. They won't upgrade the applicant to display in edge so now we have them set up in edge IE mode. Now they have an out they never do their job. I hate it because we're all annoyed and the CIO just wants us to all work around then instead of telling them to do their job.
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Jerry Mathers 3 years ago
I can't believe nobody said CEO. The most overpriced employee in any business
Dl B 3 years ago
Just an example of disparity in the work places. In most of these jobs, for everyone that is overpaid there is several who are working for less than they are worth. For every preacher, hospital worker, HR worker, lifeguard, even influencers that are driving a new sports car there are 5 or 10 that are driving a clunker and trying to raise a family on a paupers wage.
Katinka Min 3 years ago
Why are there no bankers on top of this lists? CEOs that make six digit salaries plus bonuses. And when they f*ck somethign up, the get a six digit figure as a parting payment. insane.
Stannous Flouride 3 years ago
For better or worse, it's the inherent nature of capitalism to charge whatever the market will bear.
Octavia Hansen 3 years ago
TICKETMASTER! Charging me a handling fee for an already overpriced ticket! They used to have an office to actually hand you a ticket, now on the internet they don't even do that . . . AND THEY GET PAID A LOT! Knock it off!
Jerry Mathers 3 years ago
I can't believe nobody said CEO. The most overpriced employee in any business
Dl B 3 years ago
Just an example of disparity in the work places. In most of these jobs, for everyone that is overpaid there is several who are working for less than they are worth. For every preacher, hospital worker, HR worker, lifeguard, even influencers that are driving a new sports car there are 5 or 10 that are driving a clunker and trying to raise a family on a paupers wage.
Katinka Min 3 years ago
Why are there no bankers on top of this lists? CEOs that make six digit salaries plus bonuses. And when they f*ck somethign up, the get a six digit figure as a parting payment. insane.
Stannous Flouride 3 years ago
For better or worse, it's the inherent nature of capitalism to charge whatever the market will bear.
Octavia Hansen 3 years ago
TICKETMASTER! Charging me a handling fee for an already overpriced ticket! They used to have an office to actually hand you a ticket, now on the internet they don't even do that . . . AND THEY GET PAID A LOT! Knock it off!
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