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Acting like a "lady", smiling at strangers while walking down the street, looking like you just stepped out of a magazine cover — these are just a few things society assumes women want to do every day. Of course, it would be wrong to say that expectations for women haven’t changed in recent years. They certainly have, and for the better. But there’s still plenty of room for improvement.
Rubbergloves44 asked women of Reddit to share some of the outdated things they are expected to live up to, and they delivered. More than a thousand comments flooded the thread with subtle and not-so-subtle ways people set ridiculous presumptions about female behavior.
Whether it’s believing all women want children or need to be devoted to their lousy husbands, Bored Panda has selected some of the best answers from the thread. Upvote our favorites as you go, and let us know in the comments the outdated beliefs you personally think need to change right away.
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#1
Policing the way women dress instead of policing the way men react to it
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#2
Automatically assuming all women enjoy, want and will have children.
#3
Being docile and passive. We’re expected to take so much c**p on a daily basis without complaining. Sexual harassment? it’s just a compliment. Sexual assault? you had it coming. do you really want to ruin his life? Periods or any type of pain/illness? it’s not that bad. The amount of mental labor we’re expected to do is exhausting, but we have to do it or nothing would get done. And then men get offended and call us names when we assert ourselves or express any emotion other than happiness. Our boundaries are constantly trampled and we’re supposed to just take it with a smile. It’s so frustrating!
#4
Taking care of a husband like he is an overgrown toddler incapable of doing anything for himself
#5
A woman must be lady like
You know how I feel about that one? (Farts loudly) that’s how I feel
#6
Having to defy the normal process of ageing and that ageing somehow diminishes our worth.
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
Ugh. This. Yes, I'm looking more like my grandma. So what? She had a boyfriend in her late 80s. :-)
#7
A man can walk away from a pregnancy or a family and go on with life without a bat of an eye from society but heaven forbid a woman ever walk away from her kids
#8
That all women want a man/relationship.
I'm happily single for years and don't want to be in a relationship. I don't get why people assume that single women aren't as happy as the ones in a relationship, when it was proven that single women are the happiest population out there.
Dora Ferrier 3 years ago
Preach! I love being single. I was never the little girl who grew up fantasizing about my future wedding to my Prince Charming. I can't think of anything I'd rather do less. People always assume my life is unfulfilling and lonely but it's the complete opposite! I have 100% freedom to do whatever I want to do and I love it!
#9
That doctors STILL do not provide adequate health care for us. And the fact that we still don't have autonomy of our bodies (in the US)
Swan 3 years ago
in the us or anywhere else ; trans surgery = rejected you don't dispose of YOUR body ; breast removal surgery (for example to prevent cancer(or any other reason (confort etc...)) = rejected you don't dispose of YOUR body ; trying to get a tattoo = are you sure, you'll regret it ; plastic surgery = you don't need it ; uterus removal (like to stop periods and period pain) = rejected you don't dispose of YOUR body --- [for now (and certainly for ever ): I 'am' a woman so I'm not sure if it's a woman only thing or doctors and surgeons just don't listen to anyone]
#10
That we shouldn’t show anger. Men always talk about how hard it is that when they cry, they’re called a pussy or something like that. I agree that that is a valid issue and I wish it weren’t that way, but I also wish that women could express anger without getting called a b***h or being called irrational. We get asked if we’re menstruating, we get told we’re overreacting. Just once I’d like to feel free to be angry.
Olivia Sorenson 3 years ago
Exactly! Like am I only supposed to have emotions while I'm hormonal??
#12
Dressing for men. I see many people tell women that they should not dye or cut their hair, not get tattoos, or wear certain fashion because it is unappealing to men. However, a lot of women nowadays (like me) dress for themselves and not for male pleasure.
MoMcB 3 years ago
That one always makes me laugh. I have, and my friends have been told that dyed hair, tattoos and how we dress is unattractive. Why do we want to be attractive to that type of man?
Rus Kus 3 years ago
I know, right? It's even more weird when told by a complete stranger! Like do they really think that my clothing choices are based on the preferences of random dudes that I might on the bus to work? How would I even predict that? I mean why is more important but really how?
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Kate Jones 3 years ago (edited)
Guy: You know, guys really prefer if you don't... Girl: We don't care.
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
Just had my hair dyed yesterday in honor of my upcoming freedom from being a doctor and going back to research. Wear what's comfy. If Hubby didn't love me for what I am, not what I wear?I'd have dumped him 30 years ago.
Lousha 3 years ago
I do the opposite a lot, instead of wearing what makes me comfortable I often wear what I hope will be very unappealing for men. I hope to be invisible to them because it grosses me out how many act like animals if they see me as a female object. I had to deal with disgusting behaviour from them sine I was a child and just can't take it anymore. "Not all men" is true of course, but it does not make it any less revolting how some of them behave, and there always will be some of those. Somehow I never had a woman grope me when I was 12, tell me how he'd like to be my skirt when the wind blew it in between my legs for a moment, or just straight tell me how they'd **** me right now while holding the had of their 3 year old child.
piruoztek 3 years ago (edited)
I dressed like tomboy as teenager because of that, I don't want to be judged as some şexuaļ toy. But it didn't stop them, they just kept telling me that I do it only because no one would want me. It's not possible to avoid unwanted opinions from those aßholes.
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One time I dressed very nice for New Year party, makeup and everything. In the subway one very sweet looking old lady told me that I'm beatiful but should not chew gum as it "spoils" the appeal of my face for potential men suitors. I looked around suspiciously and started to chew that stupid gum twice as furious as I really didn't need any suitors at that moment
Asswipe 3 years ago
The old lady has an outdated etiquette guide. The potential men suitors don't care about chewing gum.
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Agnes Jekyll 3 years ago
Women have ALWAYS dressed for themselves and each other. My dad and my boyfriends liked what I wore, or they very quickly learned to keep their opinions to themselves.
Alexis minnix 3 years ago
EXACTLY! I tried to explain this to my brother and he said “no one dresses for themselves. You don’t spend hours on makeup and clothes for yourself or female friends. It’s for men”
Sarah Richardson 3 years ago
This is an issue I have with my sister. My hair became white over a few months in my mid teens, since then I have always dyed it varying shades of red (from pillar box to fuchsia pink). My partner has absolutely no say in the colour of my hair; my head, my hair, I’ll do what I want thanks very much. Sister, on the other hand, does not. On her own she admits she does not like her hair (naturally salt and pepper), however she does not colour it, even though she always used to. Recently married, her husband has even said to me ‘he likes seeing the real ####’, so natural it is, cos hubby wants it that why. People wonder why I have problems with him - the connotation being that me with bright red hair is not the ‘real me’, oh yes it is….
Marnie 3 years ago
A lot of women have dressed for themselves for at least 100 years. I love these young people who just assume that some decision they made against the pull of society means they are doing something new. We've been fighting against this for who knows how many 100s (or 1000s) of years.
MyCowIsConstipated RFS 3 years ago
It's kind of funny because now many girls are dressing to gain confirmation from other females instead of men -
Anne Mitchell 3 years ago
Personally I have always dressed to please ME. It is not a sexist thing at all. I know what I like and what suits me. Others may/not like what I wear but I have always been complimented on my dress from both men and women.
Aliquid 3 years ago
To be honest... from what I see, women police other women's clothing far more than men do. Most of the time men are oblivious and don't even notice.
piruoztek 3 years ago
I literally did opposite when male "friend" (we are not friends anymore) kept telling me what he does and doesn't like on women. :D Of course not only because of him, but I liked to show him (like he kept telling me he likes long hair and I got shorter haircut, so I sent him picture). I wasn't even interested in him, just chating with him and he also kept telling me he is not interested in me despite I never asked. When I met my (now long time) boyfriend, I asked him about his opinion when I wanted to shave sides. He said it's none of his business and it's my hair, but also encouraged me to do it and that I might look good with it, when I said I always wanted it, but I'm afraid if I would look bad with it. (When I told that to that ex"friend" long time before that, he said he saw that I'm a bit chubby - I wasn't, I just have naturally a bit round face. I'm not surprised he is forever alone.)
Susan Egan 3 years ago
I'm so glad to see this. My mother (she's 99 now) never believed in the fashion fads and demands. She actually pushed the schools to allow girls to wear pants. We were supposed to wear skirts even in winter. She never dyed her hair and make-up was lipstick that lasted 10 minutes tops. My dad would have loved that his ladies wore dresses all the time. Didn't happen. To this day I dress for comfort. My style may not be yours, I don't care. My hair is gray unruly, I live in jeans and sweatshirts. My husband loves me even when I walk outside in the cold barefoot.
Lady Goofball 3 years ago
As a kindness to men, your fellow human beings, you would not dress provocatively. Our society has become so sexualized that men have a hard enough time staying on the sexual straight and narrow. Why add to the depravity we see around us everywhere we look? It's sad that we have become so self-centered that we don't care how what we do affects others.
Jarrod Nichols 3 years ago
Never ever have I heard a man say, "She's cute, but did you see her shoes?" This is yet another story created by women and caused by women. Sorry, that's the cold hard truth.
Brian Bennett 3 years ago
If I want to look like a slob I' do it. I see people I went to school with dressed to the nines to do grocery shopping - no way I wear my schulb stuff for this!
Robin O'connor 3 years ago
Women who wear glasses don't receive passes you should go to that movie and be blind as a bat because you look good without those glasses on, also never ever let anybody know that you're smart, or at least smarter than them
Bill Nye The Russian spy 3 years ago
men are stupid. I'm covered in tattoos, I wear nothing but jeans, combat boots and t-shirts, and what makes en think that we even want them to be attracted to us? they're like mosquitoes, they're annoying little pests
Asswipe 3 years ago
There's always people who want to tell how other people should be like. Despite the gender. They should just stfu. But still, we rarely dress up only for ourselves. That's why you do not see people wearing the same clothes they wear at home so much in parties or nightclubs and such. However, when you get older you care less and less what people think about you. Most of the young people dress to impress each other and attract what they like. But there's no single pattern.
Glirpy 3 years ago
Yet, most women wear high heels. Why? Do they actually like them? They like wearing shoes that destroy their feet? They like how they look? Why do people think they look good, when in fact they look ridiculous? Much like a necktie. A completely useless piece of cloth that looks ridiculous.
AnnaBanana 3 years ago
"Most" women don't wear high heels, Glirpy. In fact, it's getting less and less all the time. The days of Manolo Blahnik and Carrie Bradshaw in the 90s are done. Women these days wear whatever shoes they like and they really don't give a s**t what anyone else thinks. It's only the younglings that wear neck-breakingly high shoes. Young people are in their prime for sex and procreation, so the dress like peacocks to attract a mate.
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Rachael Sampson 3 years ago
I absolutely hate that. Why do people assume women do anything for men? Well newsflash, we DON'T.
Asswipe 3 years ago
Some don't want to admit it or lie to themselves but we do want to attract and impress other people. Not ofc everyone, there's nearly 8 billion people on this planet. But if you are attracted sexually to some human form, you dress to attract at least in some occasions.
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Jill Bussey 3 years ago
Firstly, I dress as is appropriate for the day, smart for an interview, scruffy for dirty work, etc; and secondly I dress to look nice for me, no-one else.
Mike Crow 3 years ago
Is it not better for a woman (or man for that matter) to express themselves as who they are?
Paul Mitchell 3 years ago
Men don't really care that much. Women dress to impress other women.
#13
That vaginas should be smooth always
Mary Mosher 3 years ago
For the love of God, need we remind people that vaginas are an INTERNAL organ ... the outer area consists of inner and outer labia, and vulva.
#14
That women should do all the cooking and cleaning.
Kristof De Smet 3 years ago
My kid's teacher once asked what the kids thought about cleaning: was it the woman's responsibility or is it something that both should take care of? Only kid in class who thought it was a shared responsibility, was mine. I think we have a long way to go.
#15
Ugh, I live in the Southern US & the whole “wife must fix husbands dinner plate before hers or the children’s” is strong here. I get in debates all the time about this—it agitates me to no end. I don’t know why. It just comes off very misogynistic.
The reasoning I’ve heard from people I know is that “if your husband works hard then he should not have to fix his own food when he comes home” as if women don’t also work hard & almost always have to pull the second shift if kids are involved. I don’t understand why it’s such a debate. If it matters who eats first, then it should be the kids. If there’s no kids, then who cares? Both spouses can make their own plate or one (either one) can make both plates. I’m not a housewife or a waitress for my husband. We are equals, we both work & gender roles are outdated as hell.
#16
The concept of virginity.
Agnes Jekyll 3 years ago
Always confused me as a kid--who were all these studs having sex with if the women were all virgins?
#17
That they need to wear makeup to look presentable — think a professional setting, a lot of people have the notion that it is lazy for a woman to not have ANY makeup on.
Now I wear makeup sometimes and sometimes I don’t, I just think it’s an outdated expecting that half of the population has never had.
Sarcastic Cow 3 years ago (edited)
This is just because people (read men) who write these rules have no idea what makeup is. You can have your whole face covered in ´naked´ style and they will say ´ You see how good you look without all those colors on!´
#18
Vulgar language is not feminine.
Stopped counting how many times I was told that but I always told them to f**k themselves
#20
That women can’t do anything. Fixing things, manual labor, etc. I hate when my girlfriends say “I’m waiting on him to do this or that and it’s frustrating.” How about you get off your a*s and figure it out like he did. Lol
#21
Being event coordinator, sender of household thank you notes, purchasing holiday gifts
Agnes Jekyll 3 years ago
My mom bought all the gifts for my dad's side of the family for 15 years. And when she told my dad, it's your turn now, all the gifts stopped.
#24
Being devoted to shi**y husbands
John Smith 3 years ago
I have known a couple of women that were with guys just because "it would upset them to break up".. Girl he gives you a blackeye and you don't want to upset him, buy a clue. Leave, leave now, if it upsets him, who cares. The guy is obviously a d**k and deserves to be upset and alone.
#25
That women automatically make better caregivers (children or the elderly).
Kristof De Smet 3 years ago
Honestly, most of the time they are. But that doesn't mean that, as a man, you shouldn't at least try.
#26
Having to smile and accommodate other people’s awkward and rude behavior. The- “I’m sorry I can’t help but to say or notice” and what they is creepy, unwarranted, intrusive, interrupting, offensive etc. Get out of my space! I don’t care that my voice is unusually high pitched or that whatever you noticed or have to say about me.
kayla Mckee 3 years ago
Or the the whole thing of of, you would be so much prettier if you did ______. Or two i get a lot, you smell good, and your eyes are so pretty......yeah I know because I shower and use a lotion and body spray combo that I love and I see my eyes every day, if you are getting that close you need to back out of my space or you might be met with a flying hand.
#27
Sex isn’t a right when you’re in a relationship. You have to maintain other parts of the relationship to keep that flame alive. “You must be cheating” isn’t going to make the situation any better.
Robert Thompson 3 years ago
I hated it when [my now ex wife] would use that line. As if I was just a sex doll to her, a piece of meat without any person behind the flesh. (now I am well enough to say that I was the victim of an abusive partner)
#29
Giving birth. It is the second most terrifying and painful thing a person can go through, the first is burning alive. The industry is great at hiding the many difficulties of pregnancy just to further the human race. You can permanently lose grey matter in your brain, weaken your bladder, develop allergies?? during and after pregnancy. Don't even get me started on the labour itself- i have no idea why any informed woman would want that. just google 4th degree tears and you'll be put off for life
Swan 3 years ago
I HAVE been burnt alive , and I would give birth if I could, I most likely can't (related to the burn thing) but if women are not ready to go through giving life to have a baby they can adopt; I understand women are also ready to go through this it's their choice how about the maximum informations about it and then they make their choice?
#30
It's mind blowing how many guys expect you to be a free therapist to them. Like, uh, I didn't sign up for this.
Scarlett 3 years ago (edited)
Off topic but related. Being the therapist friend to anyone isn’t fun. Try not to get yourself in that position. I was that friend all through middle school but when I looked for help myself, none came. I’ve rid myself of being that friend in high school but now I don tell anyone when I need help because I got so used to never getting any.
#31
That women should be physically smaller than men/petite/dainty/etc in order to be feminine
Kelsey Lee 3 years ago (edited)
This one sucks. I'm 5'11" (f) and my partner is 5'5" (m). Why does everyone need to bring it up? The kick of it was when his mother said she was a good wife in part because she made her husband feel tall. I replied that I took her son to greater heights :p
#32
So many men view you differently when ur unapologetically yourself. I’m loud and stand up for myself when I need to and men give you that ‘how dare you look’ and it just fills me with power.
Babette Venetianer Neil 3 years ago
I am not loud or rude, but I speak my mind and people go crazy. I have been told I really say what I am thinking. Why else would I speak?
#33
That we shouldn’t want/need rest while we are on our periods. Just because we have one every month for years doesn’t make it any less uncomfortable. I’m not saying mine is horrible every month but sometimes it hits me hard and it gets exhausting pretending like I’m not hurting.
#34
We will do domestic labor
Donkey boi 3 years ago
You WILL! You absolutely will do domestic labour! If you're not willing to help out with the household chores, go live live on your own! It's not acceptable to expect one person to do it all. Everyone that lives in a property should share the housework.
#36
We don’t like/ want sex as much as men. I personally have a much higher sex drive than my SO.
#37
Providing free emotional labor.
#39
Being expected to bend or compromise in a situation. Being the one to suck it up for the sake of everyone else.
#40
If you do have one child, you have to have another. You know, for reasons.
Donna Clanclan 3 years ago
For the betterment of the childs perspective? It's wild having siblings and then making friends with someone who doesn't. Like, do you even know that feeling of 'I'm the only one allowed to murder this jerk.' ?
#41
Having children. When I tell people I don’t want kids, they always look at me like I’m crazy and then tell me I’m still young and I’ll change my mind
#43
Putting up with any kind of abusive behaviour from their husband. Abuse isn’t just limited to your husband just beating the c**p out of you he could be emotional, mental, or verbal abuse! The same thing goes for women who just stay with a man because they want to be a happy family with their kids even though their husband is cheating on them constantly.
#44
That women over 50 can't wear skinny jeans or be trendy.
Alexandra Nara 3 years ago (edited)
I wear whatever I want...Sometimes to get attention and sometimes to feel comfortable Sometimes I express moods or choose a certain functional clothing- and sometimes I' m just wearing anything cause being naked is illegal. None of anyones business
#46
Having to push though feeling sick, tried, or in pain to get stuff done.
I have 3 chronic conditions (endometriosis, adenomyosis, and pelvic floor dysfuntion) and im being watched for a 4th (possibly lupus). Ive had to work while in pain, get up and go do housework despite being exhausted or having a migraine. Ive had people accuse me of faking my pain or exhaustion to get out of doing stuff. Bosses have made me break physical therapy orders and make my pelvic floor worse cause they refused to give me help.
#47
Our lives and identities being structured around and based upon motherhood and relationships.
#48
That older women are automatically jealous of, and are competing with, younger women.
Jo Choto 3 years ago
When I see beautiful young women going about their lives, it makes me a bit nostalgic for times gone by, but I am in no way jealous. In fact, there is nothing you could offer me to have to go back and experience all the changes I've had to go through getting older. Except maybe if I can go back with all the knowledge I have now, so I don't have to suffer through it all again.
#50
Shaving
Jo Choto 3 years ago
I have come across two gorgeous women in social media who choose not to shave and have what would be considered a normal amount of body hair for a mammal. Both have received death threats, actual death threats, from numerous men for "daring" to contravene some arbitrary standard of femininity.
#51
Being the "peacemaker" in a situation usually including men. Always disliked how women were seen as the "heart" of the family, the one keeping it all together. They want it to sound noble, but it sounds exhausting as hell and unfair. Like no one in a family can function without a woman doing the emotional labor.
I have been a woman of chaos for several moments in my life LOL, not a troublemaker (all the time) but one to stand up for myself in ways that are not expected. They assume I'll be a peacemaker because I am a woman. HAHA!
#52
Staying home and belonging in a kitchen
#53
That all women love sex and are "great" at it.
Alot of women hate sex and are not "great" at it.
#56
Being delicate and quiet = being lovable
#57
The pressure to conform our bodies and our sexual behavior, in time consuming, ridiculous and even harmful ways, to whatever unrealistic standard is in style at the time.
#58
That we are expected to smile all the time to everyone for no reason at all. Men don’t do this, aren’t expected to and don’t get approached unsolicited from strangers in public with advice to “smile more.”
Luther von Wolfen 3 years ago
People see me not smiling and they start asking about my emotional state - "Everything okay?",. "You look upset. What's wrong?" I'm just standing here with a face - my emotions are none of your f'ing business.
#59
I’m tired of having to be “nice” just because I’m a woman. Especially in the workplace where all the men are “allowed” to be jerks.
#60
The automatic assumption that a woman will take her husband's last name upon marriage
#61
Giving a c**p about social anything. Chatting like everyone else when in a new environment. Hosting dinners. Holiday parties. Sending gifts, reminders, thank you notes, etc.
There's being polite and then there's expectation. No thanks to expectation.
Summer Mason 3 years ago
My husband makes me write the cards cause I have prettier writing. However I suck at word play so he has to tell me what to say. Lol. It's a 50/50 when you get cards from us.
#62
The concept that women should work-outside the home and do most of the housework. The idea that a stay at home woman is less than a woman who works and has a home.
We went too far the other way with the whole women working concept.
#63
Our appearance is for men. I couldn't care less what they think. I am who I am and they can suck it.
Susie Elle 3 years ago
Watch me shove an entire office worth of supplies into the pouch of my hoodie and walk around like I'm a kangaroo
#64
Anything that is expected of a woman just because she’s a woman.
#65
Any expectations for women to wear make-up, heels, skirts, etc. in order to “appear professional.”
#66
Not an expectation so much as a societal view: I think the lack of dignity given to jobs related to childcare and education, and the expectation that women who are serious and driven won’t work with children, is messed up.
My take is that raising the next generation of humans is extremely important work, and the only reason people don’t dignify it is BECAUSE it’s associated with women.
Instead of fixing that societal misperception and dignifying that work, people just avoid it (myself included; I ended up teaching/working with children as a last resort after avoiding it because I saw it as “womens work,” but I have found that I actually LOVE it).
#67
Having to be perfectly groomed all the time
Lousha 3 years ago
I visited Croatia once. We wanted to go on an excursion so we met at a bust stop at the edge of town around 4 in the morning. We girls looked like one would expect at such an ungodly hour, tired, puffy faces, comfy, baggy clothes. Then a bunch of local women arrived, all with PERFECT makeup, big hairdos, colour coordinated, very neat clothes, freshly manicured nails etc. They were beautiful , but I often think of them and feel it must be exhausting to be a Croatian woman.
#68
That we have to strive to be likable. False!
Oh, also that because we are women, we are drawn towards children and mothering them. I’ve never felt maternal towards any human child I’ve ever met.
#69
ALL OF THEM!!!!
The ones I hate the most are: women shouldn't even want to be physically strong. F**k that, it sucks not being as strong as a guy, and I will go to the gym and lift weights.
Women are supposed to want to be sexy and find being objetified empowering. Or they have to be modest and prudish. I really hate that, can't I just be a normal human with sexual desires without having to either be prudish or overtly sexual
Women aren't supposed to really have hobbies or passions. I am into things women are really not supposed to be in: welding, magic, basketball and woodworking. I really hate that women aren't really supposed to have these interests and when we do it is simply because we are trying to impress men or some s**t.
Having to cook and clean to please men. I have no problem doing some cooking and cleaning, but I am not some guys maid.
#70
To never care about a man's looks, only his heart or wallet. Looks aren't everything but for some reason women are expected to put sacrifice their sexual attraction to man just to get one.
#71
Looking nice all the time. Sometimes I just wanna be in my bath robe and slippers. I shouldn't have to doll up all the time.
Paddling Panda 3 years ago
I sometimes walk my dog in my housecoat and flip flops. And I honestly don't give a f**k what anyone thinks. Though there is a special place in my heart when someone calls me The Dude
#72
To be caring and nurturing. To bring cooked food and cakes to the office.
An Unpopular Opinion. 3 years ago
That's exactly who I want to be though- caring, helping people, and heck yeah am I going to bring cupcakes to work sometimes!!
#73
Asking men out...Apparently, that's too "forward" and you come off as "creepy" and "clingy" for asking a guy out, despite it being 2022. But then, men don't ask women out anymore.
What are we supposed to do? This makes bringing back arranged marriage in the Western World look better every single day.
#74
That we are somehow better human beings than men, so should behave better than them.
#75
Wearing stockings/tights at work.
setsuriseikou 3 years ago
Ooh, the bane of my existence through high school, uni and several years of an office job! I stopped putting on these wretched things quite some time ago, but the thought of not having to deal with them anymore makes me happy to this day!
#76
Cooking for a man
How come every time someone asks me about romantic relationships they bring up me cooking for a man?! If I learned how to cook, he can learn how to cook. There are too many resources to not know how.
#79
Shaving my legs. Thankfully my husband doesn't care or I wouldn't have married him. My chronic pain makes it difficult to shave and legs just say my first adventure in waxing went horribly
What do you think ?
Ivana Bašić 3 years ago
I cut my hair from a longish Bob to a buzz cut. Everyone asked how my husband would feel about it, what if he preferred long hair. If he prefers long hair, he can grow his own!
InvaderZim 3 years ago
Same here. I’ve had my parents be like “what if men think you’re a lesbian?” Bruh I’m ace anyway I don’t want a relationship
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Yumiko 3 years ago
the future will look upon is and our time and think we were barbaric middle ages. what's the justification for paying women less than men again ?
Immortal Emperor Paradox 3 years ago
The level of order determines the the amount of equality between the majority/stronger/oppressor group and the minority/weaker/oppressed group in a society/community. This may apply to almost all facets, like race, caste, sex, culture, ethnicity, etc. We've come a long way from when women were treated as objects, to chattels, to humans, although not absolutely. It's a given that the far future would be a much better place for everyone, including women. For our descendants, we would just be inferior, savage old farts.
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The Starsong Princess 3 years ago (edited)
Being called a Karen if you stand up for yourself or express any discontent. Send your undercooked chicken back in a restaurant? You’re a Karen. Want a company to honor their warranty? Karen. Expect a clerk to wait on you instead of the man who arrived after you? Karen. And on and on.
Kristin Ingersoll 3 years ago
That's... not what "Karen" means - it's how you go about things. And the fact that you're that clueless means... you might want to take a look at how you complain.
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Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
I'd like to publicly thank my mom, who managed to uninstall a lot of this in me before I even hit puberty, despite it being prevailing thinking of the time, and it being how she was raised.
Viney24 3 years ago
this is one my sister got a lot... shaving. women are expected to shave their legs armpits and other parts that they should only shave if they want to
Robert Thompson 3 years ago
I never understood this one. How has "hair" become ugly? Some covergirl stereotypes make sense to me, but not this one.
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Kensi 3 years ago (edited)
I got one too. I enjoy going to events (theatre for example) by myself (I am a woman) and for many men so far it has been like an invitation to come to me and (and I quote): "to keeping me company because I'm there alone". I never noticed it would happen to my male friend. I don't go there to meet men but simply to enjoy time there by myself.
whodunnitfan2013 3 years ago
I was taught to be submissive to men growing up, and to always look pleasing to men. F**k that. I'm still recovering from my misogynistic upbringing.
Enby.Minecraft.Bee. 3 years ago
If yall liked this yall should probably read the book "Cinderella is dead"
Jo Choto 3 years ago
Almost all of these issues relate to how the woman is perceived by the man for doing/not doing a thing. Fact is, the second women stop wanting the approval and desire of men, they will stop caring about doing or not doing most of the things on this list. We have the power. We have the choice.
Ashlie 3 years ago
Except when it comes to employment. The majority of higher management positions, boards of directors, etc. are held by men. Every time diversity is brought up, I get tepid agreement and then treated to a monologue about the need to hire quality candidates, as if hiring mostly white men meant that the company was hiring quality candidates.
Load More Replies... whodunnitfan2013 3 years ago
Also, that all women want to and should get married. And that all women should only be wives and mothers.
Joyce Blodgett 2 years ago
The entirety of mankind/humankind is in for such a huge shock in the near future.
Brian Bennett 3 years ago
Men and women should not CONTROL each other. If this is happening in your life - either male or female get the hell out of that relationship. There is a difference between give and take, some people can't or don't want to realize the difference! Control is just the start of future abuse. Get out while the gettin's good!
Pepinie Tojetajne 3 years ago
Yeah, experienced lot of that. Sorry, not there for this. And I will let you know. 35 without childern and my hubby has hands. So stop your nonsence. And I have hairy legs :D
Octavia Hansen 3 years ago
I sing in bars and clubs. When a man is interested in me, he thinks I'll quit this job. When I sing a love song, every man thinks I'm going home with him. Every man thinks I am just singing until I find a man to support me. That my singin/writing songs/recording albums and jingles is just something fun I do until I find "a real job."
Ally MacMann 3 years ago
I'm going to agree with you here (albeit not on every point). BP has had entire articles on toxic masculinity and there's lots to suggest that outdated stereotypes also harm men. Let's be clear - they don't harm men as much as women but suggesting there is a problem shouldn't be controversial!
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Tamra Stiffler 3 years ago
Actually, it's the product of sexism and misogyny, but thanks for playing!
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musical-trash 3 years ago
These are not complaints, they are issues. Real life issues. How would you feel if everything on this list happened to you?
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Ivana Bašić 3 years ago
I cut my hair from a longish Bob to a buzz cut. Everyone asked how my husband would feel about it, what if he preferred long hair. If he prefers long hair, he can grow his own!
InvaderZim 3 years ago
Same here. I’ve had my parents be like “what if men think you’re a lesbian?” Bruh I’m ace anyway I don’t want a relationship
Load More Replies... Yumiko 3 years ago
the future will look upon is and our time and think we were barbaric middle ages. what's the justification for paying women less than men again ?
Immortal Emperor Paradox 3 years ago
The level of order determines the the amount of equality between the majority/stronger/oppressor group and the minority/weaker/oppressed group in a society/community. This may apply to almost all facets, like race, caste, sex, culture, ethnicity, etc. We've come a long way from when women were treated as objects, to chattels, to humans, although not absolutely. It's a given that the far future would be a much better place for everyone, including women. For our descendants, we would just be inferior, savage old farts.
Load More Replies... The Starsong Princess 3 years ago (edited)
Being called a Karen if you stand up for yourself or express any discontent. Send your undercooked chicken back in a restaurant? You’re a Karen. Want a company to honor their warranty? Karen. Expect a clerk to wait on you instead of the man who arrived after you? Karen. And on and on.
Kristin Ingersoll 3 years ago
That's... not what "Karen" means - it's how you go about things. And the fact that you're that clueless means... you might want to take a look at how you complain.
Load More Replies... Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
I'd like to publicly thank my mom, who managed to uninstall a lot of this in me before I even hit puberty, despite it being prevailing thinking of the time, and it being how she was raised.
Viney24 3 years ago
this is one my sister got a lot... shaving. women are expected to shave their legs armpits and other parts that they should only shave if they want to
Robert Thompson 3 years ago
I never understood this one. How has "hair" become ugly? Some covergirl stereotypes make sense to me, but not this one.
Load More Replies... Kensi 3 years ago (edited)
I got one too. I enjoy going to events (theatre for example) by myself (I am a woman) and for many men so far it has been like an invitation to come to me and (and I quote): "to keeping me company because I'm there alone". I never noticed it would happen to my male friend. I don't go there to meet men but simply to enjoy time there by myself.
whodunnitfan2013 3 years ago
I was taught to be submissive to men growing up, and to always look pleasing to men. F**k that. I'm still recovering from my misogynistic upbringing.
Enby.Minecraft.Bee. 3 years ago
If yall liked this yall should probably read the book "Cinderella is dead"
Jo Choto 3 years ago
Almost all of these issues relate to how the woman is perceived by the man for doing/not doing a thing. Fact is, the second women stop wanting the approval and desire of men, they will stop caring about doing or not doing most of the things on this list. We have the power. We have the choice.
Ashlie 3 years ago
Except when it comes to employment. The majority of higher management positions, boards of directors, etc. are held by men. Every time diversity is brought up, I get tepid agreement and then treated to a monologue about the need to hire quality candidates, as if hiring mostly white men meant that the company was hiring quality candidates.
Load More Replies... whodunnitfan2013 3 years ago
Also, that all women want to and should get married. And that all women should only be wives and mothers.
Joyce Blodgett 2 years ago
The entirety of mankind/humankind is in for such a huge shock in the near future.
Brian Bennett 3 years ago
Men and women should not CONTROL each other. If this is happening in your life - either male or female get the hell out of that relationship. There is a difference between give and take, some people can't or don't want to realize the difference! Control is just the start of future abuse. Get out while the gettin's good!
Pepinie Tojetajne 3 years ago
Yeah, experienced lot of that. Sorry, not there for this. And I will let you know. 35 without childern and my hubby has hands. So stop your nonsence. And I have hairy legs :D
Octavia Hansen 3 years ago
I sing in bars and clubs. When a man is interested in me, he thinks I'll quit this job. When I sing a love song, every man thinks I'm going home with him. Every man thinks I am just singing until I find a man to support me. That my singin/writing songs/recording albums and jingles is just something fun I do until I find "a real job."
Ally MacMann 3 years ago
I'm going to agree with you here (albeit not on every point). BP has had entire articles on toxic masculinity and there's lots to suggest that outdated stereotypes also harm men. Let's be clear - they don't harm men as much as women but suggesting there is a problem shouldn't be controversial!
Load More Replies... Tamra Stiffler 3 years ago
Actually, it's the product of sexism and misogyny, but thanks for playing!
Load More Replies... musical-trash 3 years ago
These are not complaints, they are issues. Real life issues. How would you feel if everything on this list happened to you?
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