Society functions under the assumption that we’ve all accepted its rules. Money has value because we’ve been told that it does, and we abide by the law to avoid negative consequences. But that doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to question anything. In fact, the only way that progress ever occurs is through speaking up about the flaws in the system.
Reddit users have recently been discussing some of the societal standards they have a problem with, so we’ve gathered their thoughts down below. Enjoy reading through their responses, and be sure to upvote the things you don’t consider to be normal either.
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That people’s feelings are more important than the truth.
one of my personal mottos is "i would rather be unhappy with the truth, than be content with a lie"
I think circumstances dictate when you tell the "truth" - You saw her husband kissing another woman - yes, tell her. You think her kid is ugly - no, don't say anything. All you are going to do is hurt her feelings.
Load More Replies...Lot of people going to jump on this and upvote in agreement, then continue on BP and spout nonsense from their feelings.
Yes!!! Agreed. I’ve been censored and downvoted several times by BP and commenters for just stating facts and truth.
Load More Replies...And tiny minorities who are massively, politically active, can't rewrite the truth.
If the white supremacists terrorist in the USA get their way, the country might end up on a dictatorship.
Load More Replies...There's a balance here, because sometimes people's feelings ARE more important than the truth. We have to decide in each situation whether the benefits of telling the truth outweigh the pain inflicted. Often they just don't. People who make a virtue of being a 'strait shooter' who 'tells it like it is' are often just insensitive AH's.
As long as you are not telling people a truth with the intention of purposely being cruel.
And some people's facts aren't really facts but they believe they are...Someone can believe they are just telling you the truth but they actually have no idea what they are talking about.
Load More Replies...So I'm going to go out on limb here.... GAY PEOPLE.... Generally, some people's feelings deep on the inside are still mixed about the barrier of what is the 'norm'. This is still in the mainstream of life and mentality in 2024. My strongest hero's are Freddy Mercury, Oscar Wilde, Judy Garland etc... These people are not 'odd' they are us. The best of us. Better than you or I. They are our leaders. People that should go down in history as 'The best humankind has to offer'. Nothing. Less. TRUTH is they/we are the backbone of creativity, good sense, aspiration, leadership, logical, f**king thinking... I am not gay, I am a Hetro male that likes women btw.... however, You do your thing at home, I'll do my thing. Truth is, we make a f**king awesome planet together. The truth is... this should not be seen as anything but just F**king normal!! Love you all X
This was the first thing that came to mind for me. I have never understood people who think that how they feel or believe is more important than other people's feelings or beliefs. Being American I have lost respect for the people who talk about how important freedom is to them, yet they wish to legislate based on their feelings even though they are a minority. The irony and hypocrisy is just too much.
Load More Replies...Um, yeah, Gen X has been saying this for decades. Your feelings do not override facts
That we need to be tolerant of other cultures, religions, ideals, etc. always.
No, there are some objectively terrible beliefs out there that only exist because people insist it’s their culture or any of the above mentioned.
Slavery, child marriage, marriage rape, stoning homosexuals, hating a group of people because you’re supposed to, considering a sector of humanity lesser because they’re not the right color/ gender etc etc etc.
"iT's jUSt mY opiNIoN!" No, it's not just an opinion...basic human rights aren't "opinions".
I will respect your opinions, and traditions, right up until the point they start impinging on the rights of others. Then, it doesn't matter what your opinion is, it doesn't count.
Load More Replies...This goes along with agreeing to disagree, and making friends with everyone. No. If you're a racist, a misogynist, or support the election of someone who is, I can't respect your opinion, we can't be friends.
This includes not accepting rape, torture, burning, and abduction of inccoecnt civilians as "resistance" or freedom fighting. Even if it doesn't sit with your agenda.
I love when people ask my "Why do you hate trump supporters so much just because they have different political views?" Sorry but this has NOTHING to do with politics. You can't be a MAGA cult member without being racist, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic and so on. They can deny it all they like...you can't support trump without being all these things.
Yes you can. Im as left wing as they come and i HATE that orange turd of a clown. If you look just a bit further, you'll see that there are a lot of people who are NOT that (but still conservatives) but were totally desperate, poor, and hoped he would bring change. The months before he was elected, there were some nice stories and documentaries about this.
Load More Replies...Quite the dilemma - We in Germany get told that we have to do more to make the country save for jews (due to our history), LGBQT groups and do more for equality between women and men. On the other hand we have to tolerate a culture that absolutely hates all of those groups and pointing it out gets people painted as Nazis.
The double standard is indeed incredible. My parents grew up in that specific culture, and then emigrated to Europe. Some of our friends and family from that so called 'community' (who also emigrated to Europe) can have the most hateful speech I've ever heard, very specifically about Jews and homosexuals. The thing is that they consider it as extremely normal and are not shameful about it at all, because 'it's part of our culture'. Thank god it's not the majority of them though, but trust me there is no filter at all.
Load More Replies...It's ok for you to trash my culture but expecting me to respect yours?
"I have a right to an opinion!" "Yes, you have a right to an opinion. You also have a right to a bowel movement. But I don't want either of them in my ear, thank you."
This really depends on where you are. Before the bashing begins let me make a point. If someone goes or moves somewhere that certain things are lawful and acceptable, they have to respect and abide by that that even if they don't agree with it. You can't go somewhere and make everyone play by your rules. If you don't like the culture stay in your own. If you join another culture, their culture becomes yours. Not the other way around.
true, but what when you're born in that other culture?
Load More Replies...As a Christian, it hurts me to see people like this, it is so so so sad that people think that it’s okay. It’s painful to see something like that in a movie, tv show or something, it it’s just so depressing
tipping culture.
You as a employer should pay your employee enough, balancing the cost of your service with his salary.
I hate tipping. All service people complain about it then when it's changed and they're *still* making more than most people (20/hr tested in some places) it's *still not enough*. Just admit you're greedy and you want other people to subsidize your living style based off *my* work. In over 10 years I've been to many resturants, and tipping 20% is absolutely insane for the *vast* majority of places I've eaten, let alone to now be expected to tip at coffee shops, pick ups, ect. Maybe if I was outright tipping the cooks, or the people roasting beans. Stop working for businesses that take advantage of your work if you believe 7.25 isn't enough. I did, that's why I haven't eaten inside a resturant in almost 2 years. Tipping used to be for an exceptional service. Now I'm expected to tip the waitress who hasn't come to my table in 45 mins while my drinks are empty, food still isn't here, and the place is deserted.
When Trey parker and matt stone decided to abolish tipping and pay their servers a flat $25/hr (later raised to $30/hr) the servers were pissed....because that would still end up as a LOSS for them compared to the $2.15/hr + tips. Restaurants in the US have a profit margin of 2-5%, and the vast majority of them aren't owned and operated by celebrities worth a few hundred million each that can afford to spend $60,000+ a year for people that carry food short distances, and the average consumer isn't going to tolerate prices rising any more than they already have when fast food and delivery apps exist.
In better restaurants, where hours worked, are rarely a "normal" week, a higher wage wouldn't even come close to making "enough". Tips are essential!
That is just a mouthful of bad business practices to me.
Load More Replies...Employers are always portrayed as evil for paying a low wage with the rest of the worker's income coming from tips. But every employee in those jobs was aware of the pay structure at the time they accepted the job offer. If people would stop going into jobs where they are paid by tips, then tipping culture would end. The reason employers have a "pay employees by tips" system is because people will work for tips. Think about it. A person accepts a job in which they know they will be getting paid by tips. And then other people say "The employer should pay a living wage."
Some people don't have a choice about what job they take. Sometimes you have to accept a bad job in order to have food and rent money.
Load More Replies...A tip should be an extra gratuity for good service. Not an essential part of the base pay.
Service industry people live off of tips and no it's not their employers fault. Most servers ( all good servers) would rather have tips. Coffee places started probably as people just not bothering with waiting for the change but it's the recent random places that just threw tips into the payment screen that are messing everything up. If you don't understand tipping for actual service go where there is no tipping but the best service will be found where there is tipping, in the US at least.
Men can not be abused. Men can not feel emotion. Men are supposed to slap on some bootstraps or, however, it's called and take it "like a man." Its disgusting.
Be a man. You must be swift as the coursing river
THIS! I'm a male survivor of multiple assaults. Just thinking about it sends me back there.
It was a dark time in my life I will never forget. I'm a male survivor too.
Load More Replies...I read a study that said little boys laugh and cry more easily than little girls. Then they start first grade at school and all that HAS TO STOP. We need to change that starting yesterday.
The sad part is that men ourselves are the biggest issues with perpetuating this s**t. How many kids are duped by the Andrew Tates and alpha dipshits into feeling this way? Too many.
Abuse is never okay, no matter who is the abuser and who is the abused. And can we get away from labeling certain crimes being gender specific? And away from the victimless crimes ideology?
I present Andy Reid as an example of a victim of emotional abuse, assault , and battery committed by another man this evening. Abuse is abuse, even when we don’t recognize it as such.
Healthcare being tied to employment. I don't want to be trapped to a job I hate just so I can get my prescriptions. I have enough savings and low cost of living so I could totally do a part time job but no.. 40 hours for insurance.
The USA is never going to be great until we have Universal Health Care. Too bad the insurance companies own our politicians, especially Republicans.
What I think adds to this is the whole "meeting deductibles", still having co-pays, and that some non medically trained jerk can refuse something that is doctor ordered because they think it's not necessary
Load More Replies...The US can't afford to fund healthcare. It is spending trillions of dollars to lose wars all over the world.
unemployment too. It´s disgusting that companies in the US can have influence over if their leaving employees get unemployment benefits or not.
The worst is staying in a job that you know is making you sick, so you can pay to be sick.
This! I knew being on disability/not working would drastically alter the quality of healthcare I rec'd (forced to MediCal). I didn't anticipate a year of dics who first refused to renew my BP meds and antidepressants, then prescribed meds which I had repeatedly told them caused life threatening allergic reactions. I'm finally in a better cate network but it still far from what I had while employed, and because of that, I'm debating returning to work.
If all Americans against socialized medicine spent two years living in just about any other economically developed country, they'd discover how much better it is. Yes, you have to wait a little longer for non-emergency procedures but you never have to pay out of pocket, you don't have to spend hours on the phone trying to get your insurance company to pay, and you never have to worry about going bankrupt if you have the bad luck to get sick or injured.
I would like to add having jobs take advantage of knowing this by hiring you for 38 hours instead of 40 so they don’t have to give you benefits like health insurance, among other things. I had one company hire me for 37 hours at one location and 37 hours at another and they got away with it too, and people in this country wonder why so many people are in poverty and are in desperate need of healthcare and food assistance even though they are working two or more jobs. I was being paid $7.25/hr and this was in ‘94. The fact that the minimum wage is still close to this amount in some places decades later is insane.
How about even if you have "good" insurance there are many medications not covered plus co-pays and deductibles.
To expect to know things that are not taught to you growing up. Taxes, laws, basic medical care, even from what cleaning chemicals you can mix to how long food lasts in the fridge. Instead public education is geared towards making sure a students mindset is ready to be another cog in the economic machine.
"Education" today is too focused on passing standardized tests to secure funding for the school, rather than properly educating children and young adults about the world they are about to enter.
The concept that school should educate kids about the world is as unreasonable as expecting that they learn morals from tv shows. The blame if a kid does not know the basic skills to succeed in life is their parents. The blame if an adult does not know them yet is him/herself as they have not taken responsability on their lifes
Load More Replies...Oh, please. I get so tired of hearing this nonsense. Speaking as an American and a teacher: what good would it do? So we teach kids how taxes work - which they’ll doubtless find exciting and totally pay attention to - and how to do their taxes (which we already can do on an app; are we saying people are so stupid they can’t figure out how an app works?) Then we do what for the last 90% of the year? And do we really need kids learning how long food lasts in the fridge at school? Is that really worthwhile? Most of the stuff people whine about schools not teaching can easily be done at home and, quite frankly, SHOULD be taught at home. But, once again, parents have no accountability and we get posts like this that demand schools take up teaching the most mundane things. Tell you what: when Americans start trying - really trying - to do well in school, we can talk. Until then, I’ll assume you’re unserious and just want to bash schools.
Please say this louder so they can hear it in the back! I've been barking about this forever. Parents don't even teach their kids how to tie shoes before packing them off to school and insisting that educators should be responsible for teaching their kids virtually everything. What a waste of life.
Load More Replies...It's a teachers job to teach kids academics. It's a PARENTS job to teach them life skills. All these things OP named should be being taught by parents.
Uh, not exactly. Taxes are covered in economics. Laws are covered in social studies. Medical care is covered in a first aid class. Household chemicals would be covered in chemistry. Food storage would be covered in home economics.
Load More Replies...A lot of this needs to fall on families as well. Why can't parents or grandparents be teaching these basic life skills. "How long food lasts in the fridge" does not need to be covered in school. That is a life skill that can be taught at home. School is not a replacement for basic parenting. And, yes, it is a cog in the economic machine because that is exactly what it was developed to be. To help people during the industrial revolution to be able to have basic reading and writing skills so they can get jobs and not starve to death in a time when that was very much a possibility for a lot of poor, illiterate people. Nowadays "education" seems to have become a catch all for people who don't want to parent their kids. It seems like people would love it If kids could just be dropped off at 5 years old and picked up as fully formed human beings at 18 with no real parental responsibility in between.
Exactly. Families are responsible for the small, everyday circle in life - things relating to the household, routines, chores, politeness, hygiene, good habits. Schools are there to teach those things that are not easily taught at home - big concepts like reading, writing, math, languages, science, history, getting along with diverse people, working in teams, plus concepts you need a lot of people and equipment for, like sports, debate, clubs, CTE, etc.
Load More Replies...Laws, basic medical care, how long food lasts... just how much do you expect schools to teach. Much of this complaint should be taught at home. Another cog in the ecconomic machine... high school will teach sciences and higher level maths, it opens the door to go much further, and many universities literally have degrees in entrepreneurship. We need an entry on this list about blaming society and taking no accountability for ourselves.
But you can teach yourself those things now, what with the internet and all.
Exactly. We can teach you how to learn, including how to vet sources. But you have to have the initiative to look up things that interest you. If you're only watching surfing squirrels and social media challenges, that's on you.
Load More Replies...Well, yes but....be a teacher for a few weeks and get an idea of what you're supposed to cover.. Everything cannot/should not be taught in school. Children used to learn most of these things at home, but now we're into like the 3rd generation of parents who don't know. Cooking meals for example. Far too much reliance on fast food and take-out.
A lot of things are learned by taking chances, getting messy and making mistakes.
This varies a lot from around the world. We were taught all of these. House economy covers almost everything in here. we have actual kitchens is class where we cook and bake, then there is washing room where the class laundry is washed and ironed. These classes also cover budgeting, shopping and different cleaning practises as well as things like table manners, celebration customs and different food cultures. And lo and behold, it's almost every students' favourite subject as you can do things yourself and there's very little of just sitting and listening.
Honestly? For individuals to be their own community. That's why so many people are suffering. We're a social species, we're supposed to help each other, but instead we're all just struggling along because society says it's disgraceful to "be a burden upon others".
Ridiculous. We need more empathy and less ego. More connection, less loneliness.
There is nothing selfish about asking for help and needing to rely on others. Even the hermits and most solitary people benefit with a little interaction with people once in a while, no matter how much they show they hate it. People go absolutely mad when isolated. Doesn't matter how introverted you are.
The issue for me is when help is expected. When folks do not at LEAST attempt to fend for themselves. When they take and take, and take, and offer nothing reciprocal.
Load More Replies...Sure... Support should be there, but don't force it if people don't want it. Extroverts need to be aware of overstepping other people's bounds.
I've found myself socially isolated and truly don't know who to ask for help. I have online friends, but long for being in the physical presence of others...
There is also the rampant overuse of certain terms like trauma dumping. When you have those really close, really tight friendships, being a shoulder and an ear is part of the relationship that can and should strengthen that tight bond. You can’t expect your close friends to only share the laughs and good times while they are dying inside from lack of social support. Even therapists will recommend forming these strong bonds with people you can trust and bare your soul to.
There’s a loneliness epidemic right now and the ramifications are horrendous.
And politically this is disastrous. If you're convinced that this is how life works and you're on your own, struggling against everyone else to survive, not only are you going to systematically choose violence first when it comes to interact with your neighbour, but you will also be more likely to tolerate only the people who look like you the most. That's how ultraliberalism (= extreme individualism and denying the mere existence of any kind of social engagement for the sake of individual freedom) is paradoxally, but strongly, linked with far right opinions, (fascism, racism, bigotry... you name it). And that's where modern capitalism and its hegemonic ideology is leading most democratic countries right now.
The "I me mine" mindset of conservatives will be their undoing. We cannot survive except as part of a community. People kvetch about their tax money going to help the "lazy" poor - never mind that a lot of people receiving SNAP and welfare have jobs, but those jobs don't pay enough to keep up with the rent AND buy food. They pay taxes, too, which support something you like. It's "I scratch your back, you scratch mine."
Load More Replies...Honestly work drains all my social energy and I have none left for the weekend..I'm working on changing careers to solve this problem.
I have seen Daguerrotype(sp) pictures of settlers who isolated themselves. They had this wild, fearful look in their eyes. The suicide and homicide rate must have been seriously high. A woman I used to take care of told me about growing up on a ranch. She told me that neighbors depended on each other, and you were foolish to go it alone.
I just saw an amazing movie with Hilary Swank and Tommy Lee Jones. They lived out in the western territory (of the U. S. in the 1800's), and were taking three women back east who had gone mad. It gave me a lot to think about.
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That it’s acceptable to let someone die if they don’t have the money to pay for care
It should be allowable for people to choose death when they find it preferable to their medical options.
self administered euthanasia is one thing... this is talking about lack of treatment when one can not pay
Load More Replies...That it's acceptable to keep someone alive when there is zero quality of life left.
My hubby and I have DNR (do not resuscitate) in our end of life directives. Too many loved ones died lingering deaths that siphoned everything they earned and left them near vegetative. I want as much autonomy as possible in my final years.
This only applies to the USA, it is neither normalized or accepted anywhere else.
It's not normalized in the US. If you go to the hospital you get treatment regardless of whether or not you can afford it. Also, when a patient without insurance goes to the hospital they get charged a lot less than people with it.
Load More Replies...Healthcare is atrocious in the US. The only developed country in the world without some form of universal heathcare. Lecherous insurance and pharmaceutical companies dictate medical costs and capitalism with a focus on profit instead of people is completely destroying its citizens.
that being a virgin anytime past like 16 is abnormal
The concept of virginity and purity needs to stop. There is nothing wrong with not being a "virgin" as well as nothing wrong with being one. The whole concept is outdated
I wish the youth realized how empowering it is to wait and giving themselves that choice to not bend to coercion and manipulation. No one is going to love you more because they got off on you in a few minutes. It's like when you're a kid eating lunch at school and someone begs for your fruit roll up, offering you their sandwich, saying they'll be your friend. Lies. (Please don't cherry pick what I'm saying. I know about the exceptions. I'm not referring to that.)
also, normalize asexuality and aromanticism! amatonormativity (the idea that everybody loves in the same way and that everybody needs to be in a romantic and/or sexual relationship) is toxic for many people. Humanity is diverse.
There's a lot of data about sex education and how that affects young people. In those countries with age appropriate sex and relationship teaching in school, there are lower rates of teen pregnancy, lower rates of STDs, and in general, a higher age at first intercourse. Teaching children about sex enables them to make a decision about it, and feel more confident in themselves about when, with whom, and how. And another statistic- those countries with proper sex education in schools, there's a much lower rate of young people saying they felt pressured into sex the first time, and a higher rate of people saying they enjoyed their first sexual experience. In countries with no school sex ed, young women are more likely to report they regretted their first time, didn't enjoy it and felt pressured. Abstinence isn't sex ed-teaching kids about sex gives them the tools and knowledge they need.
sexuality is a personal matter ..it's no business for the society to judge or demand. ( sexual abuse excluded for sure)
Virginity means NOTHING. It’s doesn’t have any reflection on who you are.
I waited til i was 28. Had a ONS. Never met someone who wanted to share the time with me. I am almost 34 now and still single, never had a relationship. For some its just not possible. Edit: Can confirm no medic professional believes you, if you say you have no sex. I am sexless since my first time. I don't miss it. So i am probably grey ace or ace and thats absolutely okay.
I was so young when I was 16, I could not imagine being ready for a sexual relationship. It’s weird and dangerous that there’s pressure to lose it while you’re still a child.
I am asexual, and I don't think I'll ever have sex, because it makes me uncomfortable. Doesn't make me abnormal, because virginity isn't a thing. Also, I would say 16 is wayy too young to have sex anyway, especially in this age of prawnography, where it is so easy to see these videos where violence against women is normalised and where the pleasure of the man is the most important thing.
As for society in America the expectation for the mother to return to work quickly and have her body "bounce back" ASAP.
Not giving men maternity leave with his new child so he he can bond and help care for it with the mother/other parent
My fiancé get 2 weeks PAID parental leave at his job, and then 4 weeks half paid. In America, this is unheard of, they're about to go through a merger where another company is buying them out and he has already talked to HR about ensuring he is grandfathered in to receive parental leave in June when our son is born (his first biological child and my third!). I went back to work three weeks after having my 9 year old back in the day because I was a single mom, and did not even receive paid maternal leave!! I couldn't afford to even take the full 6 weeks off
Load More Replies...Sometimes the mother isn't even allowed 1 night in the hospital!
The reason many European countries have such amazing laws for new parents is because those countries had, and continue to have, very low birth rates. These were incentives governments had to do to ensure a new generation was being born. You’ll notice that countries like the USA, And other countries that don’t have a low birth rate do not offer that due to the simple reason it’s not necessary
In my opinion, this also counts for (mental) illnesses for both men and women. It's all about taking the time you need, instead the time they want to give you. I've suffered burn-out three times in five years, because during the first two times I was rushed to "bounce back" waaaay too soon.
Why would you expect citizens to be more important than the economy?
Lack of universal healthcare and also how stigmatized certain mental illnesses are, as if people choose to be sick 🙄
I reiterate, the USA will never be great until we have universal Healthcare.
Unfortunately it will never happen. People are still bitching about the ACA and that's been a huge benefit to millions of Americans. Until politicians refuse to allow the pharmaceutical and medical industries to line their pockets, we will continue to live un a country where people are dying because they can't afford to live.
Load More Replies...Most mental illness is a neurological defect (also addictions, obesity, etc). However, health care rather focusses on behaviour that could be changed even though it can't because it is not the cause of the affliction. It seems to be easier to write someone off as "not willing to comply" than investigating the source of the problem.
I had pneumonia and HR acted like I was faking it and choose to be that sick.
I had a knee injury and called in sick before anything would tear - but sure, boss insisted that I pull storage cars with half a ton through the warehouse all day. Losing my job was the better option than having to deal with a chronic injury though
Load More Replies...One of my managers once accused me of always talking all of my PTO, and I snort-laughed. I’d point out to him that even in retirement I have to take “sick days,” but he died years ago while working because he assumed his burst appendix was just a temporary pain and tried to work through it.
No certainly not. I can not recommend our system in any way shape or form to anyone.
Load More Replies...I cannot believe this isn’t the most important issue heading into the elections. Instead we’re talking about weird culture issues — not things that impact nearly everyone’s lives in a meaningful way.
Good good change are professional athletes have been more open to discussing their issues and needs with regards to mental health. I think that change in an area where "mental thoughness" is a requirement is one good place to start.
The quest for youthfulness. Growing older is a privilege and I don't understand the hate on wrinkles, grey hair etc. There used to be a saying "grow old gracefully" which implies accepting the changes and making the most out of it.
I have severe, long-standing anorexia and nobody thought I'd make it this far (mid-30s), and several times I nearly didn't. Things still aren't good but I've been stable a while now - I'm having restorative/reconstructive dentistry work done and my consultant has been ruling out options that will be problematic in 15, 20 years as I'll hopefully last longer than that. I've just adopted a new rescue kitten. I appreciate the signs of ageing because I never thought I'd live to see them. They mean I'm in a better future and there's hopefully more to come!
Don't want to start a debate about men vs. woman. But I feel in today's standard it's more difficult for women to accept aging. There is this vague idea (can't qualify it, I admit) that women 'lose value' more quickly as their age and lose their 'prime beauty'. I worked in Finance and you'd get a ton of male Managers/Senior Managers with grey or white hair who are seen as the 'experienced and wise boss', while for women of the same age (50 or so), having grey hair is a big no no, you'd get labelled as a 'granny'. It surely depends on the social environment and culture you're in, I remember reading articles about it in the movie industry as well.
This is absolutely the case. There is a malignant woman vs. woman campaign against aging, particularily in the US. Social media is largely to blame, its disgusting.
Load More Replies...I still hear that saying. But when I do it's about celebrities and people have to comment on how much they approve that celebrity is look at 60, 70, 80 years old. If that person looks too well, then people credit plastic surgeries and botox. If they're aging like normal people, then people scoff at how they're just aging and making fun of them. If that person isn't looking well, or not in flattering lighting, or just looking not like they're going to the Grammy's, people need to say how horrific that person looks. No one ever says, "I'm so glad we still have this great actor still around and kicking." or " They're living their well-earned retirement. What a legend."
I love gray hair. I can’t wait for my hair to turn!!! I compliment everyone I see that has gray/silver hair! Getting old is awesome! They’ve survived so much. Done so much. Have so many awesome stories! When I grow up I want to be an old woman!!
Growing older is not a privilege. Frequent or constant aches, a diminished ability to heal, having less energy to do the things you want... these are not privileges. Getting very old and struggling with memory loss and the possibility of receiving injuries you will never heal from is not a privilege. Getting old sucks.
In Italy the saying is "Every fruit has its season." But a culture that demands cherries in January -- and gets them!- is always going to try to resist the natural course of life. Just remember that there are probably millions of people who PRAYED to reach whatever age you are. Be grateful.
A lot of people think that 'growing old gracefully' means keeping their youthfull looks and beauty. God forbid if you have wrinkles or grey hair.
The commodification of your hobbies. They're about how you spend your leisure time, not another revenue stream
The pressure and scrutiny is real. Anytime I enjoy something and seem to do it well, a family member says I should sell it. Turn it into a business. Business is mainly about the administrative aspects, and you worry a lot more about finances and keeping up demand. But you have to get your start. Just because one or 2 people say they like your work and ask to make stuff for them, doesn't mean they actually want to pay you for it, nor does it mean many other people want your work. I think some people just say they want a piece of your work as a way to show they support your endeavours, but not in a genuine way.
I had the same experience! A family member mentioned my fantasy dolls were great and I should sell them. I responded if I were forced to make them, they wouldn't be fun anymore. Plus, they are alot of work, and I'd worry a small child would wreak them.
Load More Replies...This. So much this. Hobbies are about individual expression and don’t need to (or should be) commodified
I learned to paint in prison. I once sold a painting for a bag of jalapeno poppers. Monet, Dali, and all that lot NEVER sold a painting for a bag of jalapeno poppers. I win!
I do a lot of crafting, and I do sell some of it at markets and online but it's not really a "side hustle" because I refuse to hustle. I weave because I love to weave and it's good for my brain to do it, I sell (or give away) because there is a limit to how many scarves I need. Could I sell more if I hustled? Yes, of course. But also it's my down time, and down time is precious so I'd rather just do the craft than spend an hour making a stupid video for Instagram to promote my stuff.
I do embroidery and cross stitch and have done for years-I'm pretty good at it now. I generally gift them to friends for things like weddings, birth celebration, new home, and also for charity auctions. I constantly get people saying I should sell them and it's really irritating. I don't want to commodify my hobby, because then it wouldn't be a hobby, and I'd get stressed out with deadlines. And people simply would not pay for them-the basic cost of equipment per piece is about £30-50 depending on size. Framing is £40+, depending on size. I can do a greetings card in an evening (3 hours), but a larger picture can take 150 hours or more-even if I price my hourly rate at £8-10, no one would pay £1000+ for a tapestry, despite it taking me hundreds of hours to complete.
If you commodify it, it's no longer a hobby. It's a job, and why would I want to take my means of relaxation and turn it into a job?
thats... strange. A lot of people would LOVE to be able to make a hobby their living.
Load More Replies...Turning an activity you love into making money can often ruin your pleasure of doing it. You lose the freedom of doing it how you enjoy it and become beholden to the market forces that dictate you do it in a specific way.
As soon as you monetize something, it no longer qualifies as a hobby. I have had so many people see what I can do, I crochet and design doll clothes, and the first thing I hear is "you should sell those online" and "do you have an Etsy?"
There is so much pressure in the United States to turn absolutely everything into Dollar signs. It's like, don't people understand you could die any moment and that you can't take your money with you?! Just find something you enjoy doing for you and don't pressure people to make it a business. Sheesh.
I've really started trying to embrace the idea that it's the process, not the product. I do this because I enjoy the DOING of it. No, I don't know what I'm going to do with one more crocheted shawl, but it wasn't a waste of money to buy that yarn: I was buying supplies for DOING a thing I like, which is the crocheting itself, not the item I made. It's making a big difference in how I talk to myself about my hobbies. Much less stress and guilt.
Now with smartphones, assuming that people are available and obligated to respond to you. I sometimes wish we lived in the older times when you had to call someone’s home landline number and leave a message, then wait for them to respond back at their earliest convenience. Now it’s, “I texted you, you didn’t respond, are we still friends, are you mad at me”? Blah blah etc. like no, I simply just didn’t feel like responding. I’m a busy adult, and just because there’s a texting feature on my phone doesn’t mean I’m always willing to engage in conversation with you.
I prefer e-mail. No pressure to respond, when you get the message, please reply, if needed. My wife and kids put me in these group texts, everyone replying, phone going off, me damn near throwing it out the window. "take me off this thread please:"
I only stay in group chats I agreed to be part of. I find flash group chats very rude and disruptive.
Load More Replies...I turn off my phone at bedtime. I refuse to wake up to answer the phone.
I don't have a cell phone but I do have a landline with caller ID. I still don't answer if I don't want to talk to you.
I have a cellphone and a landline with caller ID and I don't answer if I don't want to. Or don't recognize the number.
Load More Replies...I've had this conversation so many times with various people. I will not sugar coat how annoying and off-putting it is. Works like a charm. They get the point.
I think if I were friends with someone who "needed" an immediate response to their text to know that I was not mad at them and that we were still friends, I would not want to be friends with them. I'm a pretty good judge of character and have a good bullsh!t detector, so I hopefully wouldn't end up befriending someone like that.
That athletes are paid so much than most people because they provide entertainment and branding.
Bezos is overpaid more than all athletes combined.
Load More Replies...This one is faulty. Athletes are overpaid. BUT it's because we, as a society, overvalue athletic competition. For the business they're in athletes are actually some of the most appropriately paid employees. As a model, we should be paid as much (percentage of revenue) as they are. That's not to say we should all be making millions, but that over all they're making a good 50+% of the revenue they help generate and so should we.
I enjoy watching sports sometimes but really it's a bunch of grown men putting a ball into a basket or trying to get a ball past a line. It's utterly ridiculous when you think about it. Especially since so many are struggling and entertainment is way more valued than education and people's well being. I would be thrown into jail or beaten to a pulp by saying sports are kind of dumb in all honesty.
Load More Replies...I am 59 and still don't understand the "entertainment" value of watching someone else play a game.
People get paid based on how much money (wealth) they create. Right or wrong, that’s how we calculate economic value. As much as it sucks that important jobs like teachers and social workers get paid less than actors and athletes- thats how capitalism works.
If that was true then cashiers at fast food stores would be the highest paid people in the world.
Load More Replies...I would rather the money go to the Athletes then more go to pockets of team owners. Stopping the fetishizing of sports in general would help this one. Football in the USA is crazy, almost like a religion
This is one of the oldest clichés out there. People are going to make what people are willing to pay. As long as people keep paying high prices to go to sporting events, as long as they watch games on TV, as long as they buy T-shirts and jerseys athletes are going to make a lot of money. However it should be noted that only a small percentage of athletes make the ridiculous amount that will guarantee them generational wealth. The majority will make far less than that. Yes, they are making considerably more than the average person. But they will also likely only have a two or three year career. A football player who earned $3 million but is out of the league by the time they’re 26 will now need to do something else for the next 40 years. If not that comes out to an average of about 75,000 a year.
You'd rather the money go to the billionaire owner only instead of spread across the team and administration? Same reason college athletes are now getting paid. In the end, you get paid what you're worth and how well you sell yourself to the person paying you. Stay in one job and be the expert, you will get your rewards, just not "tomorrow."
I used to think they were overpaid. I read a book by a former NFl player,I cannot remember his name. Sorry. He broke down the average salary and how many years ,on average they may play. The math is sad. An injury could end everything ,shortening their careers. I no longer believe they're overpaid. It's nothing like an average job/ career.
Thai dowry system. In Thailand, a man is expected to give money to bride’s parents before he marry her. The amount can be a lot.
This puts groom in financial pressure. He could use that money for future child education or taking care of his soon to be wife BUT he has to give them to her parents.
This also treats bride like a commodity, a trade. It devalues women.
This is called sin sod, often confused with a dowry. A dowry is the brides family giving the groom money, livestock etc.
And it's just a gesture. The money/goods are (usually) given back to the newlyweds. I was once at a wedding in Thailand and the money and stuff was displayed. The next day it was given back to couple.
Load More Replies...When my sister got married, my parents (jokingly) told my BIL that her bride price was three camels so he bought them three little stuffed camels. It was great
The dowry system in India is out of control. If a bride's family does not give enough dowry, (usually consisting of expensive appliances,) to the groom's family, there have been instances of murder of said bride.
Same everywhere. In my humble opinion if it flys, floats or fornicates, it’s always cheaper to rent.
Same applies for couples wasting a fortune on the wedding when they could use the money for better things
Yes Kat labola is alive and well in Africa to this day men pay the family and women are paid for like cattle.....or swapped for cattle
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Not going to the hospital because you have no health insurance and would rather die than bankrupt your entire family.
And hope that you have a decent life insurance plan to make sure your family is okay after you die
Yep. Came off a green horse and landed wrong last year. Tried to tough it out becuase i dont have insurance. 2 weeks into the agonizing pain i finally broke down and went to hospital. Id broken my tailbone and 2 vertebrae. Now I'm 50k in medical debt that I'll never get out of. Learned my lesson. Next time I'll just stay home and die.
Going to hospital = generally covered by tax-payer monies. Going to THE Hospital = a Business model, ruined by frivolous (and costs for genuine ones) lawsuits, greed of insurance and pharmaceutical companies; Typically this phrase, in this manner, is only used in North America. Also, hospital visits in other countries are NOT free, it is paid for by tax payer collections. It appears to me that the rich and affluent in the USA are rather reluctant to cover the costs of people poorer than themselves, which can also explain the extreme poverty and its expansion in small and cities, as well as hunger and homelessness.
My last hospital stay did cost 4.300 bucks for treatment and staying there for 7 days - had to pay 70€ for occupying a bed and getting food
I live in Scotland and our main hospital is an 45 mins away by car. Twice I’ve been rushed in to the hospital by ambulance and the next day having to pay over £50 for a taxi back. Luckily the treatment is free though but I’ve refused hospital treatment in the past because I’m not paying for taxis home
Wait until you find out that you have to pay more after you die than the actually medical care.
I remember seeing a woman lying on the platform in a Muni station in San Francisco back in the 1990s yelling, “Don’t call an ambulance! “ The healthcare system is completely broken.
That a person's worth is tied to their job and economic activity rather than their character.
There are so many people of many different walks in life. People say you should work as a server to understand tipping culture, or work in retail to understand patience and empathy. But try working in a thrift store, or volunteer at a shelter or soup kitchen. You'll realize there's a whole aspect of life you didn't think was there, while meeting people you enjoy talking to but would likely move to another seat if they sat next to you on the bus.
Alternatively: that business executives, rich people, and celebrities are smarter, better, more honest than the rest of us.
The idea that people who work in manual labor or service jobs are somehow of less value than people in desk jobs etc.
Beauty standards (for men, women, etc)
Human bodies should not be treated or seen as a trend imo
The only time I see people caring about trends is in magazines and online. Sometimes in school. When I'm out and about, I see people with many different looks, wearing all sorts of clothes. No one cares anymore. Anything goes these days. I could wear Victorian era clothing on the bus. I may get some stares. Perhaps someone may strike up a conversation. But no one is going to shame me nor anyone else, because people are too busy on their phones to notice anything anymore.
Yeah, 40 something Goth with no effs left to give here.
Load More Replies...As long as it's still healthy there is no reason to call anything out (morbid obesity shouldn't be normalized)
Reminds me of that ex (30 years old) who very strongly believed it was an absolute natural necessity (like brushing your teeth or showering) for women to shave it fully down there. Like it was part of the daily routine of literally all women, and if you didn't do it you were just lazy or neglecting yourself.
I don’t wear makeup. Never have, and as a result, I tend to look younger than I am! 😉
One scientific study showed that people with crooked teeth are only employed in lower paying jobs. That is so toxic.
Work full time, have a perfectly clean house, be fit because you exercise regularly and be the perfect mother and partner on top
Edit to add: have a successful career
The "perdectly" clean house and "perfect" and mother and partner don't resonate as a conon expectation to me... tough for those faced with this though. Not being a slob, staying healthy, and being a good parent/partner certainly seems like a reasonable expectation though. And the simple fact is many have no choice but to work full time. But in a household that can afford to do otherwise (and I don't mean scrape by), the yeah, working full time is also reasonable.
I actually recently changed my expectations for my own house from “clean all the time” to just “don’t be a slob.” Now I feel better about leaving laundry unfolded or being too lazy to sweep one day. As long as the dishes are clean and there isn’t garbage or food left out, then whatever.
Load More Replies...And don't forget to be humble and expect no recognition for the work you put into all of that
Try to keep up with the Jones' and you'll end up living a life spiralling around keeping up with a gazillion things no one will care about nor notice. Btw, those super organized restocking videos, with all the food being put in reusable containers, I tried recreating this. I gave up. It's so time consuming and not everything fits. I have more containers than I now need, and they're taking up more space in my cupboards. I took them out of my fridge. The people that do these videos, that restocking is their job. They got a whole set up specifically to make these videos. They don't really live like that at home. Pretty sure some of them are just restocking a small store they own.
Bruh those commercials about creams for how 'bad women's crotches smell' lately are killing me. I'd get if they were marketed to summer or post workout but no, they just go on about how gross we smell.
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That everyone should look like a social media filter.
It feels like every app has filters on it now, some of them automatic, to smooth out your skin, even its color, make your eyes bigger, add makeup, make you look skinnier, make you whatever it is you aren't enough of already to be perfect. And I think it's making us expect people to be essentially CGI versions of people instead of actual people.
I don't use filters, and if I do it's for fun. Since I can't wear makeup much I like seeing what would like good on me. So far, I'm good with my natural looks. But not a lot of people are okay with that, so even on my personal FB account I keep my profile not of me. Jackasses sure like to assume I'm a huge, obese person because of my round, plump face I inherited from my dad. Or criticize my hair. Or just feel the need to randomly say I'm so ugly. I know they're just trolls, jerks and trying to get a rise out of me. Nonetheless, when it's all the time, every time you comment on anything, it gets exhausting and starts affecting you. I believe this is why a lot of people refuse to show their faces.
I'm a goth so I wear a lot of makeup. Only two colors though. White and black.
Load More Replies...I was on a Teams meeting the other day, wondering why my skin looked so nice and dewy. It was some kind of mild filter 😬 I swear I’m gonna forget what I actually look like if this keeps up!
Load More Replies...In real life I look like a furnace filter that hasn't been changed in months.
Okay but I've never seen someone with a linty complexion.
Load More Replies...If you do not want to show your actual face it's better to use your pets face.
I've recently received two different ID cards on which the pics I sent to be used were then so badly/ heavily filtered they no longer looked like me, so not only defeating the entire point, but also telling me that my unfiltered face isn't 'good enough' to represent their organisation. I found it extremely rude and complained.
It's terribly sad, and something I've seen a lot of older women especially doing. Many people I know won't post a picture without that lens greasing effect. It's dehumanizing. Not even the most beautiful people in the world are 'good enough' to go without some amount of editing and, frankly, I'd rather see pores and bellies and imperfections because the human body is glorious as it is.
40 hour work week
We now get a flex day every week. We can either work the full day, work the hours we want, or not come in at all on our assigned day. No questions or restrictions, it's completely up to us. AND WE ALL LOVE IT!
I don't know if it's true but I once read that the 40 hour work week was predicated on the idea you have a wife at home to do all the domestic chores and childcare.
In my current department, the lab staff can do flexi-time. The lab has to be manned between 7am and 7pm (not overnight or weekends). The staff do a 40 hour week, basically an average 8 hours per day M-F. But they can choose-some do 7am to 3pm, some 11am to 7pm, some do 2 long days 7-7 and 2 short days of 7 hours and take one week day off etc. It's far more complicated than everyone starting and finishing at the same time, and it would only work if you have enough staff at the same grade doing the same work so they are interchangeable, but it means they can do the hours they prefer-some people are early birds and like to start early, others prefer a later start and work late, so they've more control over their working life. Everyone definitely prefers it-took a while to iron out issues, and I know if we take on new staff it might mean a bit of readjustment, but its working well.
I'm sorry but I don't think 40 hours a week isn't that much. It's not even a quarter of the week
are you aiming for less or more? (also, you are not forced to work actually, right?)
The 40 hour work week became the standard in 1940, two years after child labor laws became a thing. Prior to that, your work hours were determined by whenever you were awake. From the time you were 5/6/7 years old, sun up until sun down six days a week, until you died. Hard, physical labor in conditions that had never even heard the term "safety" A large portion of the world still has that standard of work...they make your clothing, toys, electronics, they grow and harvest your food and recycle your trash, and they're paid less money in a month than you make in a day. But no, who could ever hope to cop with the horrors of spending 40 hours a week in an airconditioned building.
I know this thought process is an exercise in futility as it’s not likely to ever happen, but what would this world in the USA look like if the service industry was salaried per week. Up to 40 hours per week paid a base salary that is supplemented only by working overtime or holiday pay.
Spending less than a quarter of your week supporting yourself, oh the horror!
Women have to be strong, but not too much, have to have a job and intellectual background, but have to be ready to do the home chores on their own if their partner's job is more "important" than theirs. They have to care about their appearance, but not too much, or they will be considered as attention seekers. They have to be able to smile and talk in public, but not too much. Basically, if you are attractive, people will tend to think you are "only" attractive and not so smart, and even that you got the job because you are pretty, but if you are considered less attractive, you may be categorized as someone whose intelligence and sensibility are not enough...
Double standards between men and women is a real thing
“Strong inside but you don’t notice; good little girls they never show it” Madonna - What It Feels Like For A Girl One of the best commentaries about the constant, contradictory rules/expectations women are taught from a scary young age (in a great song)
For real. "But for a boy to look [or act] like a girl is degrading because you think that being a girl is degrading."
Load More Replies...Double standards hurt both genders, neither one is getting better treatment, just different versions of unfairness.
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That it's far more important to kill people than to educate them ie, Military spending v Education spending. Why we don't want everyone to be as smart as they can be is a crime against humanity
The two most important services a government provides are education and health care, and they’re always the first to have their funding cut when it’s budget time.
And infrastructure. The thing many companies use but refuse to be taxed for.
Load More Replies...Republicans cut funding for education whenever they can. Because a well educated person would not vote for them.
First, the U.S. spends more on education than the military. The perception otherwise is based on the fact that millitary spending is federal, and education spending is mostly local. Second, the notion that military spending is to kill people is abhorrent. We could've erased all life in Iraq in a moment spending about 0.01% as much as we spent, and the reason our mission largely failed is that we refused to kill even the bad guys. The Iraqi former government's strategy was simply to kill as many innocent women and children as possible, and blame their deaths on "the war," and therefore the U.S., which the U.S. media bought into 100%. Now, even if you think the war was a terrible idea, you must know that nearly all our money was spent preventing other people from being killed, not killing people.
Why would a govt that's basically owned by the corporate world want an intelligent, thoughtful population of critical thinkers? They want obedient, compliant consumers who don't ask questions. There are enough kids in the top public schools and private schools to eventually run things, fill the corporate, professional positions, etc and the rest don't matter. People think the education system is broken. It isn't, it's running exactly as designed.
Where in the constitution does it say the federal government is responsible for education? That's the states. Talk to your state govt. And don't vote for the tax on a special item that will go to education. That only leads to the politicians cutting the funding from the general fund for education. Colorado is an example of that horseshit
actually, education spending in the USA is about 800 billion, which only counts the ones the *government* spends. there are schools owned and operated entirely by private entities. so, its actually quite a lot higher.
Maybe educating people more would mean you're understaning others and not killing them !
How brutally sexist family court is against men. It doesn't matter what the mother did, she is almost always going to get the kids, the house, and turn the father into an at will atm. One of my Marine buddie's wife cheated on him while we were deployed. She got pregnant and my friend is on the hook for the kid, even though DNA proved it wasn't his. He was seen as a source of income for a piece of s**t mom by the court. For 18 years this dude has to pay for a kid that isn't even his. Family court is the most distilled form of our societies beliefs about men.
I'm not sure what was going through that judge's head, but I have heard of many instances where the dad got full custody of the kids. The mom has to practically leave her kids, be a danger to herself and/or her kids, neglect their education, and not have sufficient housing. But I've heard of very abusing parents keep custody of their kids. Often times the mother has to leave because she can't afford the home, even with child support. Family court and justice is not consistent. It's confusing.
He is a good dad though. We have our differences but I have to admit that much atleast. She is much better off now with him. He even allowed her to live with moms dad so she didn't have to switch schools until this past year, which is atleast 5-6 years after he was granted full custody. He made decisions based on what he thought was best for her and I think that says so much about him as a parent.
Load More Replies...My brother had the longest running civil court case in his Wisconsin county, trying to get custody of his son. The mother repeatedly didn't show up to court, asked for continuances for ridiculous reasons, a retained custody throughout. He eventually won joint custody - and went into huge debt in attorney's fees. Ridiculous.
Attorney fees! That's what it's all about. Both lawyers play golf together and laugh about screwing you over
Load More Replies...Oh, this makes me really skeptical. I know of no court that would make a man pay child support for a child that wasn't his. Unless he formally adopts the children through marriage, courts, etc.
In America, in certain states, a child conceived during marriage, even with a dna test, would still be considered the husbands child. Especially when the husband has been the main father figure in the child’s life and the biological dad was never in the picture. Thankfully, though, there aren’t many states that still allow this to happen
Load More Replies...So here’s a perfect example of blind adherence to “traditional gender roles” being toxic
Mums don't always win..I had 40% custody and that was considered good as he's a unemployed bum/ oh i meant...stay at home Dad. And I paid monthly money 💰 big time
I bet this inequality could be eradicated if women made the same wages as men. Then they wouldn't need to sue men just to take care of their kids.
If DNA proves it's not biological his no court in the US would oblige child support. He must have got conned into it. Not mandatory by court but more likely a manipulative partner.
If the kid isn't his, and it is proven, no court (outside US) would let him pay for it. There seems to be more behind this story.
Yea, something sounds fishy about that. I wouldn’t trust the courts with most things, at least not in my area, but having a dna test show you aren’t the biological parent is kind of basics.
Load More Replies...It’s gotten better in California… it starts out as 50/50 custody and is adjusted from there depending on several factors like work, etc. My friend and his ex exchange their kids every Sunday. They used to do it mid week but the LA traffic is so horrible that weekends were better. Plus it’s easier for school. My other friend has the kids 4 days a week, and her ex the other 3. When I was growing up, it was the standard for moms to have the kids for the week and dads on the weekend or every other weekend.
The idea that body hair isn’t ok on women.
I hate bodyhair on myself as a man, so... it depends on individuals. I think men with bodyhair look like a donut that fell on a barbershop floor. It grosses me out. Especially bears.
That seems like a weird bear-hate flex... (I know about the missing d, calm down)
Load More Replies...TBH it's kind of gross no matter the person's gender. Then I may be a bit of a weirdo who shaves myself to be as smooth as a seal. But that is my choice.
I hate shaving my legs. It's time consuming, the razors I need are pricey and I still have problems with ingrown hair because my skin is tougher than my hair. I've tried so many different things. It's bs.
If your leg hair itches you (mine does), I make a simple sugar/water/lemon juice combo and it waxes off beautifully. Takes a bit of practise, but it's way cheaper than razors, and I don't have the itch.
Load More Replies...You only need to look at the reaction Julia Roberts got on when on the red carpet and waved revealing (brace yourselves now for the horror!) that as an adult woman she had armpit hair, to see how widespread this expectation is.
One year there were a random women in the the audience, on one thing on Swe tv, that got publicly shamed just for having natural hair under her armpits.. 😶
Load More Replies...I don't like much body hair period, regardless of gender. I don't like my husband to be hairy either.
And if that's your attraction, that's your attraction. I'm assuming you don't tell other people their body hair repulses you?
Load More Replies...It's okay to some. Not okay to others. Lets not give anymore thought and attention to the naysayers.
Do men like hairless women because they look more like children? Just wondering
I've been told I would be VERY popular in the gay community as a bear. Alas, I'm straight and women generally don't find my hairiness very attractive.
That you need a over priced college education to succeed
It is still 100% true that college grads, on average, earn more than non-college grads. And if you want to work in a field that has degree requirements, you’ve got to have that degree. That being said, going to an expensive school isn’t necessary, especially for undergrad and trades are definitely being talked up a lot more as viable options for good employment. We’re pretty much past the “you HAVE to go to college to be successful” stage.
It's a lie that is a requirement. It really depends on the field you want to work in. Some people just fall into a career by accident.
By the time you're my age, you've fallen into five or six.
Load More Replies...I used to work for a branch of government. One of the interesting things is everyone's salary is public information and you can easily look it up if you know where it is. I went to community college, then a local 4 year college. One of my colleagues went to a nice private school and another went to Notre Dame. We all made the same salary.
There are so many different routes, but some schools seem to do nothing but tell their students they must go to university. One of mine is going into engineering via an apprenticeship course. This means he'll be working, learning and earning at the same time. He learns with his hands and is far more practical than theoretical, so this is the ideal route, it's 2 days a week tutoring, 3 days learning on the job and he'll come out with a degree in 4 years, and also with 4 years work experience. But we had to find this ourselves-his school only offered career guidance based on A level grades and college degrees, and absolutely nothing about apprenticeships, BTEC, City and Guilds courses etc (all UK qualifications). I'm sure there are loads of young adults feeling forced into traditional university courses and not feeling the right fit for them, but thinking that's the only way to a career.
In case pandas have not been paying attention for the last two or three decades, spending a shitton of money on a useless degree is, well, useless.
One thing I know for sure is that an uneducated plumber can make a doctor or lawyer cry when they get his bill.
The work 9 to 5 for almost all your life.
It's like you have been born to work, pay taxes and consume.
I would love the idea of ONLY 9am to 5pm FIVE Days a week. Instead of in an ever growing majority of jobs 24-7 365. Both are terrible. People are not machines. Billionaires are not normal. 1 Billion Seconds is 31 Years. There needs to be Govt Control in the United States FOR THE WORKERS. THE PEOPLE THAT PRODUCE ACTUAL HOLD ABLE ITEMS AND GOOD!!! CEOS DO NOTHING!!! EAT THE RICH!!!
This is caused by us ourselves, expecting 24/7 365 service and getting in a tantrum when it is not possible. Overnight delivery of gadgets. Delivery of groceries within an hour. Pizza delivery within 30 min in the middle of the night.
Load More Replies...Welcome to life. Do people think that humans evolved in a world where they lolled about all day long? Do they expect to be provided everything they want and do nothing in return? I have no idea what these numbnuts expect in life. It's OK to demand that you get a livable wage, affordable healthcare, affordable housing and affordable food, but these posts seem to be demanding "I don't want to work, I don't want to contribute taxes for roads, schools, healthcare, etc, but want to be fed, housed, and taken care of". The level of frickin' entitlement oozing from these posts is insane.
Well put! Don't wanna work...? I DARE you to find ANYWHERE in the world that $ ISN'T needed. If you're REALLY gonna quit working... You don't get the right to complain when the world WON'T help you. Get off your butt, and be a productive, otherwise, stop b***ching, and find a nice cave to live in, and leave the rest of the world to those that actually want to. Sorry, not sorry.
Load More Replies......oh and by the way we in power now want you to work until 70 before you collect the retirement you deserve.
People do not work "most of their lives". Most people work about half their lives. I know this a terrible thought for those who think leprechauns will grow the food we eat,make the clothes we wear and build the homes people live in.
Well, you are perfectly within your rights to quit working and see if the life of a destitute transient works for you. If you're wanting the paycheck without the work? That's not an option.
and this has been a thing for hundreds of thousands of years. nothing changes. maybe get a hint.
Pack your van, park it on some BLM (bureau land management) unpaved side road and become a hunter gather. Your problem solved
That corporate profits _need_ to be in the pockets of few, to _safe_ the economy, but losses and crashing corporations are okay to be socialized on the shoulders of the tax payers...also to safe the economy
Corporate welfare is maddening, but society seems to not complain about how much of their tax money goes to those saving graces for rich companies, like they do with people on social assistance. https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/governments-in-canada-spent-more-than-350-billion-on-corporate-welfare --- https://www.hoover.org/research/welfare-well-how-business-subsidies-fleece-taxpayers
Do you know the "look that guy's trying to steal your cookie" caricature?
Load More Replies...It is okay to conscript men to go die in wars.
"There goes old blood and guts" "Yeah our blood, his guts" PATTON 1970.
Load More Replies...Like any halfway decent person I believe in equality for women but my issue with modern feminism is this: Women in the Ukraine are allowed to leave with the children while men are forced to stay and fight. Funny how I've never heard of a feminist organization calling out the monstrous sexism of this. When men talk about women cherry-picking rights and responsibilities, this is what they mean. There are no atheists in foxholes, I guess no feminists either.
I believe the great disaster of the Vietnam war was that people were being conscripted to fight when it wasn't in their own obvious interest, or that of their loved ones.
This one depends though. In WW2, it was very much necessary to have a strong military. Vietnam, however, is a different story.
As a USNavy vet, that was in Dessert Storm... SCREW YOU!!!! I lost friends in that war... Just you could drive a f*****g suburatank.
Michael Moore asked members of Congress to sign their sons and daughters up to serve in Iraq. Of the 535 members, only one had a son in military and none agreed to.
That student loans are ok. They are everything but ok.
I am less concerned by the loans than I am with the usurious interest charged. My kid pays 12.5% on hers. Stupid old Dad said," you do not need the extra $5K each semester (extra $15k+/yr) but, nooooo.
They are about as bad as the payday loans that we are warned against getting.
Load More Replies...The problem is that we have vilified the loan companies who have given millions of individuals who otherwise never would’ve gotten to go to college the opportunity. Instead of vilifying the universities which grossly overcharge for tuition and the greatest scam of all the boarding costs. Then of course those colleges have enormous endowments and will hound their alumni for money for the rest of their lives. It’s also very simple economics why student loans have such a high interest rate, because unlike a mortgage or a car loan the lender has no collateral. They can’t take back the person’s college education. The default rate on student loans is extremely high that’s why they have to charge an enormous amount
I wouldn’t have a problem paying what I owe. Maybe even a reasonable amount of interest. I owe $7000 roughly. I don’t owe close to $50,000 because I became disabled and my previous doctors refused to fill out paperwork to discharge the loan because they claimed they were afraid the federal government would go after them if they filled them out. I had four doctors tell me that. All independent of each other. Where would they get this idea and why would they say that? What idea is the government giving doctors to make them tell patients this?
The expectation of being constantly employed. If you're not producing something then you're worthless.
Some people have jobs that pay enough to allow them to save money and take some time off working. Not me, obviously, but I've heard about such jobs...
Load More Replies...I've taken 4-6 months off at a time a few times in life. No one thought I was worthless for doing it. But I saved enough to do so when I was working and didn't jeopardize my family's well being or future. If you're unable to put yourself into a position of taking leave, and become a drain on your family or society, then you are reducing your worth to them (i.e. "drain"). So maybe not worthless, but potentially worth less.
I have no problem with people not working. I have a problem with them believing the fruits of labor magically appears. But if someone wants to "drop out" of society and live in a tent in the woods, more power to him.
Or are you working right now? 😕 No I'm taking care of my mother but heaven forbid
Load More Replies...If you are not employed then volunteer for something. You are only worthless if you contribute nothing to your community or society as a whole. You just might learn something! I am sure your local animal shelter would love a helping hand.
Your not worthless if you can afford to support yourself. Your only worthless if other people have to support you.
This is why we need Universal Basic Income. If politicians can afford to pay themselves millions every year, the same should be feasible for the rest of the population.
That we are expected to move out of our parents' home the day we turn 18. With the current COL and entry-level wages, this just isn't possible for most people.
EDIT: I'm referring to the US in this example.
I don't know if many of the parents can afford to have their kids move out anymore
Load More Replies...This is really a family choice. However, I do get how it's this big expectation. On the contrary, I've noticed more and more people being understanding and seeing my take that I'm allowing my adult child to remain living at home until she wants to move out. 1. We have a great, close relationship. 2. She's intellectually disabled (although high-functioning), and benefits best with having a support system that is currently in limbo. 3. We both contribute to the bills and groceries, making the cost of living for us both more bearable. 4. It just makes more sense. We can't think of any reason that makes it important for her to move out. 5. She helps out with the chores. 6. Nothing compares to coming home after a hard, long day of work to hugs, kisses and someone to gab to. 7. We cook for each other. My kid likes to try out different recipes and get creative in the kitchen. She's not a bad cook. She loves mama's cooking, too.
My children are 25,25,23,22. Three have BS one is still in school. Oldest is pursuing PHD. They all live at home. We do have a 10,000 sq ft home but why leave. No rush. Save your dollars.
I’ve seen a lot of posts online from kids (and they are kids) being kicked out on their 18th birthday. They have nowhere to go and have not been taught any life skills to actually live on their own. Just because the law says that you are an adult 18, does not make it so mentally.
This a a very culturally based, and very recent, expectation. In many, many culturals children are expected to live with their parents until marriage; and sometimes even afterwards. Multi-generational cohabitation was the norm for our prehistoric ancestors. Migration from agricultural subsistence to urban labor during the industrial revolution; then, the introduction of child labour laws in the late 19th and early 20th century is the cause of the collapse of multi-generational living in western European, and westernized, nations.
I’m 20, going to college part-time, working full-time, and still living with my parents.
I think we need to normalize generational homes. I think the stigmatization of people who live with parents has always been wrong.
People are very quick with their judgement - I always get wierd looks if I say that I still live together with my mother, that she's care-dependent usually isn't the first thing people think about
That it is okay to be overweight/obese.
I get what the movement was for, but then it became this entity of encouraging unhealthy weight and succumbing to the weight problem. However, I don't think bullying, shaming, body snarking those who are obese or anorexic is doing anyone any good. Just let people exist, deal with their issues in peace and mind your business.
Exactly. It's a you problem when someone else's shape or size causes you offence, and it's not their responsibility, or even actually any of their business to make you feel better about what you're seeing. Look away.
Load More Replies...We should normalise NOT being horrible to people, often complete strangers, because they are obese.
As someone who was morbidly obese most of their life, I agree. It's a nice idea to not be so hateful and accept that an overweight person is still a person but it now seems to be at a point where the inclusivity is just a hall pass to not try and help yourself be healthier and almost demands people cheer others on for being morbidly obese. It's still a sickness, and a lot of times it's using food in a way similar to drug users, self medicating mental health issues by eating their feelings. ( On a personal note, I had medical intervention via gastric bypass in 2013 and have been under 200 lbs for 5+ years. )
You are really fortunate to have appropriate medical intervention. I have good health care and am getting appropriate treatment. My friend does not. She is much more overweight than I but is told she just needs to diet and exercise. Like obese people have never thought of this or tried this. She was actually shamed for asking about treatment options. There really is a huge divide based on income. And many obese people are trying. But it's a very Complicated issue.
Load More Replies...If you're fat you don't deserve people being straight up nasty towards you for it. It's okay to exist as a fat person. You deserve just as many rights as anyone and respect. No stranger should be "concerned" for you. This attitude sucks because it's dehumanizing.
The only people who have any business in saying something are the healthcare providers and close family/friends who know the situation better. Even then, it needs to be tactical and real concern, not judgment disguised as concern (the strangers example you gave).
Load More Replies...Being horrible to anyone over their appearance is evil. If you don't like how someone looks, just leave them alone. It's none of your business. You have no idea what they may be going through emotionally or medically. Judging others because they don't fit your "standards" tells me more about you than them. Oh and I'm "fat"- you have no idea how much I beat myself up over it.
I don't think most people are "okay" with being overweight/obese. The whole point is to not be an a*****e to people who are.
Ideal body standards have changed a lot over time. There was a period when "plump" was preferred and a sign of good health while thin was taken as a sign of ill-health. Athletes and skinny people have heart attacks and strokes, while someone with a BMI of "obese" is actually relatively healthy. The point is that no one has the right to comment, police, or shame anybody else for their body type! If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. It's that simple. Just mind your own business! Edit for spelling.
It’s less about weight more about health. As a former fat person who was also not healthy, I needed to shed the pounds (and I still have health issues that will last a lifetime and gets progressively worse each day, I might not have had to deal with them as young or at all if I hadn’t allowed myself to get so large via yo-yo dieting). But there many skinny people who are unhealthy and many larger people who are healthy. The judgement that people feel they have license to possess and espouse is the problem here. You truly don’t know anything about their health to pass judgement. Also you don’t know why people are the size they are. It could be thyroid issues, it could be mobility issues that pre existed weight gain. So please step back from your negative judgements and just stay in your lane. It’s really none of your business.
Body positivity in itself is a good thing and should be encouraged as every person's body is different and very few people actually fit the mold social media presents. Still, it's different thing to accept that everyone has different body shape than promote morbid obesity. Being a bit overweight isn't a problen, but if you need three seats in airplane and demand the extras for free, we are way past normal.
People who are overweight, of which I am one, should not be attacked or criticised because of their weight or appearance. But at the same time, being fat is a symptom of an unhealthy lifestyle and people dismissing legitimate health advice as "fat shaming" are not helping anyone.
True, but if it anyone wants legitimate health advice, Bored Panda is probably not the best place to find it
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Being a divorced woman over 35 means I hold absolutely no value and am essentially doomed to die alone.
It doesn't matter I was a loving, devoted wife for 14 years or that he tried to kill me over his drinking and that's why we're divorced. I'm just old and used up...
I couldn't possibly use my education, career and everything I've secured with those to treat the man who shows me kindness and makes me feel safe like a king...
Can't have been divorced long if 35 and married for 14 years. And the "he tried to kill me..." Not to mention nowadays being over 35 and divorced seems kind of normal... about as normal as being remarried. This one's a "woe is me" sorry more than anything normalized I think.
It's reasonably normal for older women to be overlooked even by older men. Not all men before anyone jumps on me, but plenty of men think they're Leonardo Di Caprio and stop looking at women once a woman hits 25.
Load More Replies...After being divorced almost 30 years, I stopped checkmarking the little box on forms that asked what one’s marital status is, as divorced, now I check “single’ at age 75.
"I'm just old and used up". Letting others impose their prejudices and judgements on you is your first mistake. Thinking you need validation from a man for your sense of self worth is your second. Life can be full whether single or coupled, you decide how to fill it on your terms. Death to codependency.
I'm a woman, 48 years old, single, never married, no children, 3 rescue dogs and a rescue cat. Would not change this for anything.
Mind you, took me MANY years of trying to be "normal" and feeling like I should be in a relationship or being in one that wasn't working etc until I realised that I'm just much happier and more mentally balanced living on my own with my little animal family.
Load More Replies...35 is way to early to give up. Those are the best years of my life TBH.
I'm trying to figure out if this is about the OP's perception of typical societal views or the OP's self-assessment.
Don´t know where this is coming from. Plenty of woman find a partner at 35 or older after divorce.
My soul mate passed away in 2018. I’m now 50 yo woman with no kids left in the home. I was assaulted in a hospital in 2022 and can’t walk without my walker or cane. I’ve suddenly found myself as being left on the shelf and everyone I try to date is not interested in ever getting married again. I won’t waste my time on these types of relationships because I want relationship security at my age.
If I'm widowed or divorced at 36+ I will grieve, then happily continue to grow old and will purposely die unpartnered.
Actually i don't understand why your can't use your education and experience at 35. A message to women: don't make 'your' man the focus of everything you do.
I find icks really stupid and majority of "icks" are everyday things and are completely normal. I've seen videos of icks and it includes people wearing backpacks, people still have a childhood teddy bear, crying or being in love with something. I just think that the standard of icks are stupid
This context is so weird. Of course I’ve heard of something being icky, that’s an adjective (I think). But an “ick”? When did we make that a noun and how come I couldn’t even connect it to icky in my brain? Oh yeah I know… social media. I don’t do social media so I’m very out of the loop on things.
Load More Replies...When I say icks, it’s usually surrounding unsanitary conditions or practices but I’m also ocd and absolutely terrified of touching soiled objects. I’ve been known to double glove and then washing my hands in scalding water followed by germx followed by more scalding water and more germx and rinse and repeat over and over until I’ve drained the hot water tank. So, when I say ick it’s literally out of fear over exposure. Oh. And I automatically consider anything to hit the floor as immediately being unsanitary and have a difficult time just picking it up to put it in the garbage bin. I know this isn’t normal and I’m getting help for it but it’s a slow process.
You poor thing that must be terrible to need to clean yourself that much. But what makes you feel good is important too!
Load More Replies...Lol. People who complain about my backpack can suck it. I have to carry a jacket, a laptop or tablet, my wallet, emergency feminine products, a water bottle, etc. I am not getting one of those giant a*s purses with zero organization, and hangs off one shoulder to carry all that s**t. Backpacks are meant for this, so a backpack I will use. People who ick over this apparently don’t have to carry anything. Also, just because someone is over the age of early 20s, doesn’t mean they don’t attend school. I took college courses up until my early 30s.
yeah, hat´s stupid. Like an ad I sometimes see on youtube where a girl says to the dude she is dating " Next time let´s go to your place." and he is like "*gasp* I need to get rid of all the childish things in my room ASAP. Let me sell them on ebay." Like, dude, if she has a problem with you still having some your childhood stuff in your room she is clearly not the right one.
the standard to man having to be a "real man".
The definition of being manly, IMHO, is doing what one wants to do and believes is right, and not bowing to the pressure of expectation from others.
This. Too many forget that toxic masculinity's effects hit ALL genders.
Oh, just a **tiny, unassuming question** to start the day! Well, alright. While the idea of "most" can be a bit subjective because, you know, one person's "f*cked up" can be another's "**Tuesday**," here are a few contenders in the grand pageant of societal standards that might just take the cake:
1. **The Pursuit of Perfection**: Society has this *adorable* little habit of promoting impossible standards of beauty, success, and overall lifestyle. This might not raise any eyebrows until you consider the small, **inconsequential side effect** of causing widespread insecurity, anxiety, and a booming business for therapists and social media influencers. Who doesn't love a standard that creates a perpetual feeling of inadequacy?
2. **The Stigmatization of Mental Health**: Nothing says "progressive society" like still treating mental health issues as a **taboo** or a sign of weakness. It's almost impressive how persistent this standard is, considering the leaps and bounds made in understanding the human brain. It's like society collectively decided that mental health can be swept under the rug with last century's dust.
3. **Work-Life Imbalance**: Ah, the glorification of overworking. Society loves to peddle the narrative that working yourself to the **bone** is the only path to success and fulfillment. Because who needs hobbies, relaxation, or, dare I say, **sleep**, when you can have the joy of chronic stress and burnout?
4. **The "Us vs. Them" Mentality**: Society has a knack for creating divisions among people: race, religion, nationality, sexual orientation, **pineapple on pizza**... you name it. It's as if humanity decided that life wasn't challenging enough and opted to add a level of difficulty by fostering unnecessary hatred and prejudice.
5. **Financial Status as a Measure of Worth**: Nothing quite says "f*cked up" like equating a person's value with their bank account. This standard is great because it completely overlooks minor details like **character**, **integrity**, **kindness**, and whether or not someone is a good pet parent.
Of course, there are many more, but then this would turn into a **novel** instead of a light, sarcastic banter. Remember, the beauty of society is that it's made up of individuals, and individuals have the power to challenge and change these standards. Or, at the very least, make snarky comments about them.
“Read” lol, so you you kind of read it but you didn’t read read it? 🙃
Load More Replies...I **love** using ***lots*** of *unnecessary* *****asterisks****
I kind of liked them. Lol. But the I really liked that our assistant director emailed out telling someone good job. But put “good job” in quotes! 😂 he really did mean it as a compliment, asterisks may have served him better.
Load More Replies...Fair enough. I particularly agree with number 4. The toxic promotion of hatred in every possible way. For example by the media.
Same. Did anyone bother to read the whole thing and figure out the TL:DR?
Load More Replies...So we have problem with #1 and too many therapists, but we are still stigmatizing mental health as #2.
In the US, circumcision.
FWIW, I'm circumcised and I'm glad for it. I'm also a guy who shaves down there so I'm not normal I guess.
I would have preferred to not have my genitals mutilated, but I was an infant at the time and couldn't express my wishes
Load More Replies...Worldwide, genital mutilation of infants. It happens a lot of places besides the US. Anything down there deemed "unacceptable" by a culture is likely to have the knife taken to it. And in the case of ambiguous genitalia, an entire web of lies ends up being constructed around it and lifelong gaslighting from family and medical professionals alike ensues. It's quite disgusting that few seem to see any problem with this.
I think it's fine if someone wants to do it as an adult, but not with babies.
I live in Japan. Circumcision is almost nonexistent here. Circumcision does prevent some complications ... that occur in only about 1 in 50,000 males. And let's be honest: this was popularized in America because people thought it would discourage boys from masturbating, not because of any real benefit.
*non- medically required circumcision. There are times when circumcision is absolutely necessary. I had a friend in college who's foreskin began basically strangling their peins. They were in such excruciating pain that walking, standing and sitting became impossible, and they had to drop out till they could get a surgery date. His issue was a genetic one; when Drs are aware there's a family history, they will medically recommend it to the expected parent/s. Otherwise it's an abuse and needs to be banned. Your child's bits are not yours to decide traditions about.
Yeah, I've never understood that. I'm British and intact. Never had any issues and never seen any convincing arguments why it's necessary, even for religious reasons. Basically, it's child abuse. If the kid wants their penis to be mutilated, let them decide when they're an adult. Same with female genital mutilation which is mostly illegal.
Western society at any rate, sets the decadence of eating well, eating good, eat often, eat in fancy places, eat ti show off, eat to indulge with fancy restaurants, eateries and expensive tastes....but then betrays people by saying gluttony is wrong, weight gain is wrong (it often isn't good), image is everything and we should look perfect and be in the gym looking like Instagram models... Sexualising teens. Advertising and normalising the overt sexualisation of kids barely past puberty as if they're fully responsible adults. Neurology has found the brain doesn't mature fully until around 25+ years old. But society scores teenage pregnancy, tells them they don't understand life's complexities and is now saying that if a boy approaches a girl he likes to flirt, it's tantamount to sexual assault... Basically, modern Western society is the congestive dissonance on a full blown scale...we don't want people to suffer, but we dgaf about homeless, drug addicts or those suffering. We want to appear virtuous and noble, but we're rotten and corrupt to the core...life is one big venetian masked ball of everyone pretending to be something they're not and social media, for good or bad, has amplified that to the nth degree because we can all live make-believe in public and then surrender to our deepest and most lustful desires behind closed doors
Anyone else think the Garage clothing store ads are ... uncomfortably suggestive? Me and my daughter see it all the time in the malls.
Garage clothing store ads. Not a term I’m familiar with. Is this a brand or store or am I completely out of it? Ok, I’ll admit to being completely out of it, but would still appreciate a little bit of info on this. Tysmia
Load More Replies...Hypocrites and walking Oxymoron's everywhere in the USA. I still love this country in many regards and there are lot's of great people! it's just everything is so backwards right now.
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The government not telling us how much taxes we owe. No universal paternity leave for new dads. Rich people are above the law. Encouraging people to work through sickness. Pharmaceuticals can advertise. So much c**p that we have been led to believe is normal that never made any damn sense.
I do wish more people knew this: The government WILL do your taxes for you! If you have significant investments, including a home, you want to do it yourself. But you absolutely can staple your W-2 form (or 1099) to your 1040/1040EZ, and the government will do it FOR you. You probably want to fill in the names and social-security numbers of your kids, to make SURE the government knows you're claiming them. See, people THINK the government won't give them any credits or deductions if they don't know know to claim them, but the truth is that as long as no-one signs that they prepared your taxes FOR you, the government will identify the credits and deductions that they can know about.
Load More Replies...The fact that for over 40/50 years we've taught French and Spanish in school and not Sign Language.
More people understand Spanish than sign language. It's more useful.
Load More Replies...Oh yay, the weekly "hard truths" "tough talk" "yawn boring rehashed same nonsense" downvote.
I will never understand society. Do a good job for your organization and the first time you make an innocent faux pa, they rip you apart and throw you out with the trash,
It's super weird to me that people are complaining about athletes being "overpaid" but somehow CEOs didn't make the list. The former offers way more of a unique skillset compared to the other.
The government not telling us how much taxes we owe. No universal paternity leave for new dads. Rich people are above the law. Encouraging people to work through sickness. Pharmaceuticals can advertise. So much c**p that we have been led to believe is normal that never made any damn sense.
I do wish more people knew this: The government WILL do your taxes for you! If you have significant investments, including a home, you want to do it yourself. But you absolutely can staple your W-2 form (or 1099) to your 1040/1040EZ, and the government will do it FOR you. You probably want to fill in the names and social-security numbers of your kids, to make SURE the government knows you're claiming them. See, people THINK the government won't give them any credits or deductions if they don't know know to claim them, but the truth is that as long as no-one signs that they prepared your taxes FOR you, the government will identify the credits and deductions that they can know about.
Load More Replies...The fact that for over 40/50 years we've taught French and Spanish in school and not Sign Language.
More people understand Spanish than sign language. It's more useful.
Load More Replies...Oh yay, the weekly "hard truths" "tough talk" "yawn boring rehashed same nonsense" downvote.
I will never understand society. Do a good job for your organization and the first time you make an innocent faux pa, they rip you apart and throw you out with the trash,
It's super weird to me that people are complaining about athletes being "overpaid" but somehow CEOs didn't make the list. The former offers way more of a unique skillset compared to the other.
