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Society functions under the assumption that we’ve all accepted its rules. Money has value because we’ve been told that it does, and we abide by the law to avoid negative consequences. But that doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to question anything. In fact, the only way that progress ever occurs is through speaking up about the flaws in the system.

Reddit users have recently been discussing some of the societal standards they have a problem with, so we’ve gathered their thoughts down below. Enjoy reading through their responses, and be sure to upvote the things you don’t consider to be normal either.

#1

People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) That people’s feelings are more important than the truth.

ToadGrinner , Priscilla Du Preez 🇨🇦 Report

Jinx (she/her)
Community Member
1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

one of my personal mottos is "i would rather be unhappy with the truth, than be content with a lie"

Nina
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That should be everyone's motto, I love it!

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DarkViolet
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Facts don't care about your feelings. Never have, never will.

tw 72
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think circumstances dictate when you tell the "truth" - You saw her husband kissing another woman - yes, tell her. You think her kid is ugly - no, don't say anything. All you are going to do is hurt her feelings.

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Jason K
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lot of people going to jump on this and upvote in agreement, then continue on BP and spout nonsense from their feelings.

Rocky Wheelwright
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes!!! Agreed. I’ve been censored and downvoted several times by BP and commenters for just stating facts and truth.

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Russell Tilling
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And tiny minorities who are massively, politically active, can't rewrite the truth.

Miranda Veracruz de la Joya Cardenal
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the white supremacists terrorist in the USA get their way, the country might end up on a dictatorship.

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Lotekguy
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The beginning of the end of civilization.

Heffalump
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a balance here, because sometimes people's feelings ARE more important than the truth. We have to decide in each situation whether the benefits of telling the truth outweigh the pain inflicted. Often they just don't. People who make a virtue of being a 'strait shooter' who 'tells it like it is' are often just insensitive AH's.

keyboardtek
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As long as you are not telling people a truth with the intention of purposely being cruel.

Ms.GB
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And some people's facts aren't really facts but they believe they are...Someone can believe they are just telling you the truth but they actually have no idea what they are talking about.

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Errrm..wot?
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I'm going to go out on limb here.... GAY PEOPLE.... Generally, some people's feelings deep on the inside are still mixed about the barrier of what is the 'norm'. This is still in the mainstream of life and mentality in 2024. My strongest hero's are Freddy Mercury, Oscar Wilde, Judy Garland etc... These people are not 'odd' they are us. The best of us. Better than you or I. They are our leaders. People that should go down in history as 'The best humankind has to offer'. Nothing. Less. TRUTH is they/we are the backbone of creativity, good sense, aspiration, leadership, logical, f**king thinking... I am not gay, I am a Hetro male that likes women btw.... however, You do your thing at home, I'll do my thing. Truth is, we make a f**king awesome planet together. The truth is... this should not be seen as anything but just F**king normal!! Love you all X

Cecil
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This was the first thing that came to mind for me. I have never understood people who think that how they feel or believe is more important than other people's feelings or beliefs. Being American I have lost respect for the people who talk about how important freedom is to them, yet they wish to legislate based on their feelings even though they are a minority. The irony and hypocrisy is just too much.

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William Teach
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Um, yeah, Gen X has been saying this for decades. Your feelings do not override facts

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    #2

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) That we need to be tolerant of other cultures, religions, ideals, etc. always. No, there are some objectively terrible beliefs out there that only exist because people insist it’s their culture or any of the above mentioned. Slavery, child marriage, marriage rape, stoning homosexuals, hating a group of people because you’re supposed to, considering a sector of humanity lesser because they’re not the right color/ gender etc etc etc.

    Goopyteacher , James Lee Report

    UndertaleLover (She/Her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "iT's jUSt mY opiNIoN!" No, it's not just an opinion...basic human rights aren't "opinions".

    arthbach
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will respect your opinions, and traditions, right up until the point they start impinging on the rights of others. Then, it doesn't matter what your opinion is, it doesn't count.

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    Orwell
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This goes along with agreeing to disagree, and making friends with everyone. No. If you're a racist, a misogynist, or support the election of someone who is, I can't respect your opinion, we can't be friends.

    PattyK
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But we can be polite to each other.

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    Plenty Pineapples
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This includes not accepting rape, torture, burning, and abduction of inccoecnt civilians as "resistance" or freedom fighting. Even if it doesn't sit with your agenda.

    Ropre
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love when people ask my "Why do you hate trump supporters so much just because they have different political views?" Sorry but this has NOTHING to do with politics. You can't be a MAGA cult member without being racist, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic and so on. They can deny it all they like...you can't support trump without being all these things.

    Petra Schaap
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes you can. Im as left wing as they come and i HATE that orange turd of a clown. If you look just a bit further, you'll see that there are a lot of people who are NOT that (but still conservatives) but were totally desperate, poor, and hoped he would bring change. The months before he was elected, there were some nice stories and documentaries about this.

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    TotallyNOTAFox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Quite the dilemma - We in Germany get told that we have to do more to make the country save for jews (due to our history), LGBQT groups and do more for equality between women and men. On the other hand we have to tolerate a culture that absolutely hates all of those groups and pointing it out gets people painted as Nazis.

    MayaGeGe
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The double standard is indeed incredible. My parents grew up in that specific culture, and then emigrated to Europe. Some of our friends and family from that so called 'community' (who also emigrated to Europe) can have the most hateful speech I've ever heard, very specifically about Jews and homosexuals. The thing is that they consider it as extremely normal and are not shameful about it at all, because 'it's part of our culture'. Thank god it's not the majority of them though, but trust me there is no filter at all.

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    Javelina Poppers
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's ok for you to trash my culture but expecting me to respect yours?

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I have a right to an opinion!" "Yes, you have a right to an opinion. You also have a right to a bowel movement. But I don't want either of them in my ear, thank you."

    August
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m glad finally someone is saying this. Being a from a different culture doesn’t give you the right to abuse others.

    Mammie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This really depends on where you are. Before the bashing begins let me make a point. If someone goes or moves somewhere that certain things are lawful and acceptable, they have to respect and abide by that that even if they don't agree with it. You can't go somewhere and make everyone play by your rules. If you don't like the culture stay in your own. If you join another culture, their culture becomes yours. Not the other way around.

    Petra Schaap
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    true, but what when you're born in that other culture?

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    Amber The bear
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a Christian, it hurts me to see people like this, it is so so so sad that people think that it’s okay. It’s painful to see something like that in a movie, tv show or something, it it’s just so depressing

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    #3

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) tipping culture. You as a employer should pay your employee enough, balancing the cost of your service with his salary.

    dumyspeed , Dan Smedley Report

    James016
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The whole tipping out thing should also be thrown in the bin. The server should keep all of their tips, not have some taken off them and certainly should not be out of pocket to tip out.

    Tenebre
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate tipping. All service people complain about it then when it's changed and they're *still* making more than most people (20/hr tested in some places) it's *still not enough*. Just admit you're greedy and you want other people to subsidize your living style based off *my* work. In over 10 years I've been to many resturants, and tipping 20% is absolutely insane for the *vast* majority of places I've eaten, let alone to now be expected to tip at coffee shops, pick ups, ect. Maybe if I was outright tipping the cooks, or the people roasting beans. Stop working for businesses that take advantage of your work if you believe 7.25 isn't enough. I did, that's why I haven't eaten inside a resturant in almost 2 years. Tipping used to be for an exceptional service. Now I'm expected to tip the waitress who hasn't come to my table in 45 mins while my drinks are empty, food still isn't here, and the place is deserted.

    Roland C.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People who work for tips do so because they can make much more in undeclared income than a set wage . It's not consistent, obviously, but when business is good, it's *very* good.

    PattyK
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This tipping-culture is way out of hand. Time for it to stop.

    iseefractals
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When Trey parker and matt stone decided to abolish tipping and pay their servers a flat $25/hr (later raised to $30/hr) the servers were pissed....because that would still end up as a LOSS for them compared to the $2.15/hr + tips. Restaurants in the US have a profit margin of 2-5%, and the vast majority of them aren't owned and operated by celebrities worth a few hundred million each that can afford to spend $60,000+ a year for people that carry food short distances, and the average consumer isn't going to tolerate prices rising any more than they already have when fast food and delivery apps exist.

    BJ Goins
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In better restaurants, where hours worked, are rarely a "normal" week, a higher wage wouldn't even come close to making "enough". Tips are essential!

    M Zellmer
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is just a mouthful of bad business practices to me.

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    Justin Tyme
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Employers are always portrayed as evil for paying a low wage with the rest of the worker's income coming from tips. But every employee in those jobs was aware of the pay structure at the time they accepted the job offer. If people would stop going into jobs where they are paid by tips, then tipping culture would end. The reason employers have a "pay employees by tips" system is because people will work for tips. Think about it. A person accepts a job in which they know they will be getting paid by tips. And then other people say "The employer should pay a living wage."

    Judes
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people don't have a choice about what job they take. Sometimes you have to accept a bad job in order to have food and rent money.

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    Virgil Blue
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A tip should be an extra gratuity for good service. Not an essential part of the base pay.

    Gg
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Service industry people live off of tips and no it's not their employers fault. Most servers ( all good servers) would rather have tips. Coffee places started probably as people just not bothering with waiting for the change but it's the recent random places that just threw tips into the payment screen that are messing everything up. If you don't understand tipping for actual service go where there is no tipping but the best service will be found where there is tipping, in the US at least.

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    #4

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Men can not be abused. Men can not feel emotion. Men are supposed to slap on some bootstraps or, however, it's called and take it "like a man." Its disgusting.

    AdrianValistar , Christian Erfurt Report

    UndertaleLover (She/Her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Be a man. You must be swift as the coursing river

    Milady Blue
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Be a man. With all the force of a great typhoon.

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    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS! I'm a male survivor of multiple assaults. Just thinking about it sends me back there.

    He's a nut
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was a dark time in my life I will never forget. I'm a male survivor too.

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    Jaya
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If we don't allow men to feel and express sadness, fear, or emotion in general, we are not allowing them to fully experience life as human beings.

    Erla Zwingle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read a study that said little boys laugh and cry more easily than little girls. Then they start first grade at school and all that HAS TO STOP. We need to change that starting yesterday.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The sad part is that men ourselves are the biggest issues with perpetuating this s**t. How many kids are duped by the Andrew Tates and alpha dipshits into feeling this way? Too many.

    Lady Gypsy Rain
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Abuse is never okay, no matter who is the abuser and who is the abused. And can we get away from labeling certain crimes being gender specific? And away from the victimless crimes ideology?

    minji
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Korea, we have a saying that "a man should only cry 3 times in his life. Once, when he is born, second, when his mother dies, and third, when his father dies." It's ridiculous.

    Matthew Barabas
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    eh. i like to follow that example. im male.

    Michelle C
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I present Andy Reid as an example of a victim of emotional abuse, assault , and battery committed by another man this evening. Abuse is abuse, even when we don’t recognize it as such.

    Virgil Blue
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, that messed me up big time.

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    #5

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Healthcare being tied to employment. I don't want to be trapped to a job I hate just so I can get my prescriptions. I have enough savings and low cost of living so I could totally do a part time job but no.. 40 hours for insurance.

    TRIGMILLION , CDC Report

    Dingooo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The USA is never going to be great until we have Universal Health Care. Too bad the insurance companies own our politicians, especially Republicans.

    Belladonna.dreams
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What I think adds to this is the whole "meeting deductibles", still having co-pays, and that some non medically trained jerk can refuse something that is doctor ordered because they think it's not necessary

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    Justin Tyme
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The US can't afford to fund healthcare. It is spending trillions of dollars to lose wars all over the world.

    René Sauer
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    unemployment too. It´s disgusting that companies in the US can have influence over if their leaving employees get unemployment benefits or not.

    Deanna Crichley
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The worst is staying in a job that you know is making you sick, so you can pay to be sick.

    leendadll
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This! I knew being on disability/not working would drastically alter the quality of healthcare I rec'd (forced to MediCal). I didn't anticipate a year of dics who first refused to renew my BP meds and antidepressants, then prescribed meds which I had repeatedly told them caused life threatening allergic reactions. I'm finally in a better cate network but it still far from what I had while employed, and because of that, I'm debating returning to work.

    Ed Brancheau
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If all Americans against socialized medicine spent two years living in just about any other economically developed country, they'd discover how much better it is. Yes, you have to wait a little longer for non-emergency procedures but you never have to pay out of pocket, you don't have to spend hours on the phone trying to get your insurance company to pay, and you never have to worry about going bankrupt if you have the bad luck to get sick or injured.

    Happy Homemaker
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would like to add having jobs take advantage of knowing this by hiring you for 38 hours instead of 40 so they don’t have to give you benefits like health insurance, among other things. I had one company hire me for 37 hours at one location and 37 hours at another and they got away with it too, and people in this country wonder why so many people are in poverty and are in desperate need of healthcare and food assistance even though they are working two or more jobs. I was being paid $7.25/hr and this was in ‘94. The fact that the minimum wage is still close to this amount in some places decades later is insane.

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    Severus S
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    thats the USA for you, most of the free world has free healthcare. its not perfect but better than the alternatives

    Robin Roper
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about even if you have "good" insurance there are many medications not covered plus co-pays and deductibles.

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    #6

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) To expect to know things that are not taught to you growing up. Taxes, laws, basic medical care, even from what cleaning chemicals you can mix to how long food lasts in the fridge. Instead public education is geared towards making sure a students mindset is ready to be another cog in the economic machine.

    Dry-Illustrator76 , MChe Lee Report

    ninjaTrashPandaBoom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Education" today is too focused on passing standardized tests to secure funding for the school, rather than properly educating children and young adults about the world they are about to enter.

    Gabesense
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The concept that school should educate kids about the world is as unreasonable as expecting that they learn morals from tv shows. The blame if a kid does not know the basic skills to succeed in life is their parents. The blame if an adult does not know them yet is him/herself as they have not taken responsability on their lifes

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    The Darkest Timeline
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, please. I get so tired of hearing this nonsense. Speaking as an American and a teacher: what good would it do? So we teach kids how taxes work - which they’ll doubtless find exciting and totally pay attention to - and how to do their taxes (which we already can do on an app; are we saying people are so stupid they can’t figure out how an app works?) Then we do what for the last 90% of the year? And do we really need kids learning how long food lasts in the fridge at school? Is that really worthwhile? Most of the stuff people whine about schools not teaching can easily be done at home and, quite frankly, SHOULD be taught at home. But, once again, parents have no accountability and we get posts like this that demand schools take up teaching the most mundane things. Tell you what: when Americans start trying - really trying - to do well in school, we can talk. Until then, I’ll assume you’re unserious and just want to bash schools.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please say this louder so they can hear it in the back! I've been barking about this forever. Parents don't even teach their kids how to tie shoes before packing them off to school and insisting that educators should be responsible for teaching their kids virtually everything. What a waste of life.

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    Red_panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a teachers job to teach kids academics. It's a PARENTS job to teach them life skills. All these things OP named should be being taught by parents.

    ninjaTrashPandaBoom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Uh, not exactly. Taxes are covered in economics. Laws are covered in social studies. Medical care is covered in a first aid class. Household chemicals would be covered in chemistry. Food storage would be covered in home economics.

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    Michaele
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of this needs to fall on families as well. Why can't parents or grandparents be teaching these basic life skills. "How long food lasts in the fridge" does not need to be covered in school. That is a life skill that can be taught at home. School is not a replacement for basic parenting. And, yes, it is a cog in the economic machine because that is exactly what it was developed to be. To help people during the industrial revolution to be able to have basic reading and writing skills so they can get jobs and not starve to death in a time when that was very much a possibility for a lot of poor, illiterate people. Nowadays "education" seems to have become a catch all for people who don't want to parent their kids. It seems like people would love it If kids could just be dropped off at 5 years old and picked up as fully formed human beings at 18 with no real parental responsibility in between.

    Suby
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. Families are responsible for the small, everyday circle in life - things relating to the household, routines, chores, politeness, hygiene, good habits. Schools are there to teach those things that are not easily taught at home - big concepts like reading, writing, math, languages, science, history, getting along with diverse people, working in teams, plus concepts you need a lot of people and equipment for, like sports, debate, clubs, CTE, etc.

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    Doug
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Laws, basic medical care, how long food lasts... just how much do you expect schools to teach. Much of this complaint should be taught at home. Another cog in the ecconomic machine... high school will teach sciences and higher level maths, it opens the door to go much further, and many universities literally have degrees in entrepreneurship. We need an entry on this list about blaming society and taking no accountability for ourselves.

    Cindy Hamilton
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your parents are supposed to teach you those things

    Nikole
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But you can teach yourself those things now, what with the internet and all.

    Suby
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. We can teach you how to learn, including how to vet sources. But you have to have the initiative to look up things that interest you. If you're only watching surfing squirrels and social media challenges, that's on you.

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    Marilyn Holt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, yes but....be a teacher for a few weeks and get an idea of what you're supposed to cover.. Everything cannot/should not be taught in school. Children used to learn most of these things at home, but now we're into like the 3rd generation of parents who don't know. Cooking meals for example. Far too much reliance on fast food and take-out.

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of things are learned by taking chances, getting messy and making mistakes.

    quentariel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This varies a lot from around the world. We were taught all of these. House economy covers almost everything in here. we have actual kitchens is class where we cook and bake, then there is washing room where the class laundry is washed and ironed. These classes also cover budgeting, shopping and different cleaning practises as well as things like table manners, celebration customs and different food cultures. And lo and behold, it's almost every students' favourite subject as you can do things yourself and there's very little of just sitting and listening.

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    #7

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Honestly? For individuals to be their own community. That's why so many people are suffering. We're a social species, we're supposed to help each other, but instead we're all just struggling along because society says it's disgraceful to "be a burden upon others". Ridiculous. We need more empathy and less ego. More connection, less loneliness.

    Narcissista , Kylie Lugo Report

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is nothing selfish about asking for help and needing to rely on others. Even the hermits and most solitary people benefit with a little interaction with people once in a while, no matter how much they show they hate it. People go absolutely mad when isolated. Doesn't matter how introverted you are.

    Geoffrey Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The issue for me is when help is expected. When folks do not at LEAST attempt to fend for themselves. When they take and take, and take, and offer nothing reciprocal.

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    Meester Chad
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sure... Support should be there, but don't force it if people don't want it. Extroverts need to be aware of overstepping other people's bounds.

    b
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That was a huge jump to schooling extroverts.

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    Settled for Infamy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've found myself socially isolated and truly don't know who to ask for help. I have online friends, but long for being in the physical presence of others...

    Lady Gypsy Rain
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is also the rampant overuse of certain terms like trauma dumping. When you have those really close, really tight friendships, being a shoulder and an ear is part of the relationship that can and should strengthen that tight bond. You can’t expect your close friends to only share the laughs and good times while they are dying inside from lack of social support. Even therapists will recommend forming these strong bonds with people you can trust and bare your soul to.

    Amanda Cox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There’s a loneliness epidemic right now and the ramifications are horrendous.

    François Carré
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And politically this is disastrous. If you're convinced that this is how life works and you're on your own, struggling against everyone else to survive, not only are you going to systematically choose violence first when it comes to interact with your neighbour, but you will also be more likely to tolerate only the people who look like you the most. That's how ultraliberalism (= extreme individualism and denying the mere existence of any kind of social engagement for the sake of individual freedom) is paradoxally, but strongly, linked with far right opinions, (fascism, racism, bigotry... you name it). And that's where modern capitalism and its hegemonic ideology is leading most democratic countries right now.

    Freya the Wanderer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "I me mine" mindset of conservatives will be their undoing. We cannot survive except as part of a community. People kvetch about their tax money going to help the "lazy" poor - never mind that a lot of people receiving SNAP and welfare have jobs, but those jobs don't pay enough to keep up with the rent AND buy food. They pay taxes, too, which support something you like. It's "I scratch your back, you scratch mine."

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    Breadcrumb.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly work drains all my social energy and I have none left for the weekend..I'm working on changing careers to solve this problem.

    J
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My social battery is fulfilled by working. When I come home, I want peace and quiet. I have a large family and being with them is all I need, we all meet up once a month because there is always a birthday to celebrate.

    DarkViolet
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have seen Daguerrotype(sp) pictures of settlers who isolated themselves. They had this wild, fearful look in their eyes. The suicide and homicide rate must have been seriously high. A woman I used to take care of told me about growing up on a ranch. She told me that neighbors depended on each other, and you were foolish to go it alone.

    Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just saw an amazing movie with Hilary Swank and Tommy Lee Jones. They lived out in the western territory (of the U. S. in the 1800's), and were taking three women back east who had gone mad. It gave me a lot to think about.

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    #8

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) That it’s acceptable to let someone die if they don’t have the money to pay for care

    Right_Check_6353 , Dominik Lange Report

    Lotekguy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It should be allowable for people to choose death when they find it preferable to their medical options.

    Jinx (she/her)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    self administered euthanasia is one thing... this is talking about lack of treatment when one can not pay

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    Herefortheparty
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That it's acceptable to keep someone alive when there is zero quality of life left.

    Shaunn Munn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My hubby and I have DNR (do not resuscitate) in our end of life directives. Too many loved ones died lingering deaths that siphoned everything they earned and left them near vegetative. I want as much autonomy as possible in my final years.

    martin734
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This only applies to the USA, it is neither normalized or accepted anywhere else.

    Shane G
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not normalized in the US. If you go to the hospital you get treatment regardless of whether or not you can afford it. Also, when a patient without insurance goes to the hospital they get charged a lot less than people with it.

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's either unable to afford it or unable to access it.

    Bob Maloogalooga
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Healthcare is atrocious in the US. The only developed country in the world without some form of universal heathcare. Lecherous insurance and pharmaceutical companies dictate medical costs and capitalism with a focus on profit instead of people is completely destroying its citizens.

    Jayjay
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The weird thing is: it is not the sick people who make health care expensive, it is the pharma and medical specialists who cost too much.

    PattyK
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or to let someone suffer because they can’t afford care.

    JayWantsACat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is what I'm counting on. I don't want to live forever.

    Jan Owen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It shouldn't depend on their finances.

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    #9

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) that being a virgin anytime past like 16 is abnormal

    iwoulddieformydog1 , Priscilla Du Preez 🇨🇦 Report

    Angrykitten
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The concept of virginity and purity needs to stop. There is nothing wrong with not being a "virgin" as well as nothing wrong with being one. The whole concept is outdated

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish the youth realized how empowering it is to wait and giving themselves that choice to not bend to coercion and manipulation. No one is going to love you more because they got off on you in a few minutes. It's like when you're a kid eating lunch at school and someone begs for your fruit roll up, offering you their sandwich, saying they'll be your friend. Lies. (Please don't cherry pick what I'm saying. I know about the exceptions. I'm not referring to that.)

    Ash
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    also, normalize asexuality and aromanticism! amatonormativity (the idea that everybody loves in the same way and that everybody needs to be in a romantic and/or sexual relationship) is toxic for many people. Humanity is diverse.

    Mabelbabel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a lot of data about sex education and how that affects young people. In those countries with age appropriate sex and relationship teaching in school, there are lower rates of teen pregnancy, lower rates of STDs, and in general, a higher age at first intercourse. Teaching children about sex enables them to make a decision about it, and feel more confident in themselves about when, with whom, and how. And another statistic- those countries with proper sex education in schools, there's a much lower rate of young people saying they felt pressured into sex the first time, and a higher rate of people saying they enjoyed their first sexual experience. In countries with no school sex ed, young women are more likely to report they regretted their first time, didn't enjoy it and felt pressured. Abstinence isn't sex ed-teaching kids about sex gives them the tools and knowledge they need.

    Alexandra Nara
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sexuality is a personal matter ..it's no business for the society to judge or demand. ( sexual abuse excluded for sure)

    Anna Drever
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Virginity means NOTHING. It’s doesn’t have any reflection on who you are.

    Any
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I waited til i was 28. Had a ONS. Never met someone who wanted to share the time with me. I am almost 34 now and still single, never had a relationship. For some its just not possible. Edit: Can confirm no medic professional believes you, if you say you have no sex. I am sexless since my first time. I don't miss it. So i am probably grey ace or ace and thats absolutely okay.

    Mrs S
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention that teenage boys don't know or care about their partners satisfaction. They are lousy in bed, so not worth it...

    kath morgan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was so young when I was 16, I could not imagine being ready for a sexual relationship. It’s weird and dangerous that there’s pressure to lose it while you’re still a child.

    Juniper
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am asexual, and I don't think I'll ever have sex, because it makes me uncomfortable. Doesn't make me abnormal, because virginity isn't a thing. Also, I would say 16 is wayy too young to have sex anyway, especially in this age of prawnography, where it is so easy to see these videos where violence against women is normalised and where the pleasure of the man is the most important thing.

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    #10

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) As for society in America the expectation for the mother to return to work quickly and have her body "bounce back" ASAP.

    cookiesandchaos , Thought Catalog Report

    3 Otters 🦦
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not giving men maternity leave with his new child so he he can bond and help care for it with the mother/other parent

    Bewitched One
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My fiancé get 2 weeks PAID parental leave at his job, and then 4 weeks half paid. In America, this is unheard of, they're about to go through a merger where another company is buying them out and he has already talked to HR about ensuring he is grandfathered in to receive parental leave in June when our son is born (his first biological child and my third!). I went back to work three weeks after having my 9 year old back in the day because I was a single mom, and did not even receive paid maternal leave!! I couldn't afford to even take the full 6 weeks off

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    leendadll
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes the mother isn't even allowed 1 night in the hospital!

    PattyK
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    1 year ago

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    It’s probably better for the mother not to be in the hospital. That’s a great place to pick up an infection.

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    Teachzebra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The reason many European countries have such amazing laws for new parents is because those countries had, and continue to have, very low birth rates. These were incentives governments had to do to ensure a new generation was being born. You’ll notice that countries like the USA, And other countries that don’t have a low birth rate do not offer that due to the simple reason it’s not necessary

    bas moelard
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my opinion, this also counts for (mental) illnesses for both men and women. It's all about taking the time you need, instead the time they want to give you. I've suffered burn-out three times in five years, because during the first two times I was rushed to "bounce back" waaaay too soon.

    Mike D
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had 6 weeks to use in the first year after my daughter was born. I pretty sure my new, woke company won't give that much... They are blind on how much they do give fully paid.

    James016
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had 2 weeks paternity leave when my son was born and I was told by HR that it was not worth taking the second week due to how much salary I would lose. I did take it as off as part of my holiday allowance though. I think things have changed now in the uk.

    frederick clause
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why would you expect citizens to be more important than the economy?

    Tamra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because without citizens, there IS no economy.

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    Meester Chad
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    1 year ago

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    Yeah but don't do what you can't afford.... Without being prepared for it's cost

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    #11

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Lack of universal healthcare and also how stigmatized certain mental illnesses are, as if people choose to be sick 🙄

    Typical-Tomorrow-425 , Rex Pickar Report

    Dingooo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I reiterate, the USA will never be great until we have universal Healthcare.

    Burnt Cheese
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately it will never happen. People are still bitching about the ACA and that's been a huge benefit to millions of Americans. Until politicians refuse to allow the pharmaceutical and medical industries to line their pockets, we will continue to live un a country where people are dying because they can't afford to live.

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    Jayjay
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most mental illness is a neurological defect (also addictions, obesity, etc). However, health care rather focusses on behaviour that could be changed even though it can't because it is not the cause of the affliction. It seems to be easier to write someone off as "not willing to comply" than investigating the source of the problem.

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had pneumonia and HR acted like I was faking it and choose to be that sick.

    TotallyNOTAFox
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a knee injury and called in sick before anything would tear - but sure, boss insisted that I pull storage cars with half a ton through the warehouse all day. Losing my job was the better option than having to deal with a chronic injury though

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    msminnie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think all mental illnesses are stigmatized. I hate how people "adopt" mental illness like being OCD to explain their behavior. You're not OCD, you're an a**ho*e.

    Michael Fernandez
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my managers once accused me of always talking all of my PTO, and I snort-laughed. I’d point out to him that even in retirement I have to take “sick days,” but he died years ago while working because he assumed his burst appendix was just a temporary pain and tried to work through it.

    Jan Owen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do mentally ill people in the UK get the help they need?

    Cold Eagle
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No certainly not. I can not recommend our system in any way shape or form to anyone.

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    Jennifer McHugh
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot believe this isn’t the most important issue heading into the elections. Instead we’re talking about weird culture issues — not things that impact nearly everyone’s lives in a meaningful way.

    JayWantsACat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good good change are professional athletes have been more open to discussing their issues and needs with regards to mental health. I think that change in an area where "mental thoughness" is a requirement is one good place to start.

    Marnie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A scarier thing are some religious types who blame mental illness on sin, laziness, bad attitude, etc. It's terrifying.

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    #12

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) The quest for youthfulness. Growing older is a privilege and I don't understand the hate on wrinkles, grey hair etc. There used to be a saying "grow old gracefully" which implies accepting the changes and making the most out of it.

    moshennick , Philippe Leone Report

    Adrian Price
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My grandmother always said she was growing old disgracefully.

    DarkViolet
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Was she a little old lady in tennis shoes?

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    Jeevesssssss
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have severe, long-standing anorexia and nobody thought I'd make it this far (mid-30s), and several times I nearly didn't. Things still aren't good but I've been stable a while now - I'm having restorative/reconstructive dentistry work done and my consultant has been ruling out options that will be problematic in 15, 20 years as I'll hopefully last longer than that. I've just adopted a new rescue kitten. I appreciate the signs of ageing because I never thought I'd live to see them. They mean I'm in a better future and there's hopefully more to come!

    MayaGeGe
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't want to start a debate about men vs. woman. But I feel in today's standard it's more difficult for women to accept aging. There is this vague idea (can't qualify it, I admit) that women 'lose value' more quickly as their age and lose their 'prime beauty'. I worked in Finance and you'd get a ton of male Managers/Senior Managers with grey or white hair who are seen as the 'experienced and wise boss', while for women of the same age (50 or so), having grey hair is a big no no, you'd get labelled as a 'granny'. It surely depends on the social environment and culture you're in, I remember reading articles about it in the movie industry as well.

    DeeDee M
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is absolutely the case. There is a malignant woman vs. woman campaign against aging, particularily in the US. Social media is largely to blame, its disgusting.

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I still hear that saying. But when I do it's about celebrities and people have to comment on how much they approve that celebrity is look at 60, 70, 80 years old. If that person looks too well, then people credit plastic surgeries and botox. If they're aging like normal people, then people scoff at how they're just aging and making fun of them. If that person isn't looking well, or not in flattering lighting, or just looking not like they're going to the Grammy's, people need to say how horrific that person looks. No one ever says, "I'm so glad we still have this great actor still around and kicking." or " They're living their well-earned retirement. What a legend."

    Vicki Doggurl
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love gray hair. I can’t wait for my hair to turn!!! I compliment everyone I see that has gray/silver hair! Getting old is awesome! They’ve survived so much. Done so much. Have so many awesome stories! When I grow up I want to be an old woman!!

    Shane G
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Growing older is not a privilege. Frequent or constant aches, a diminished ability to heal, having less energy to do the things you want... these are not privileges. Getting very old and struggling with memory loss and the possibility of receiving injuries you will never heal from is not a privilege. Getting old sucks.

    Erla Zwingle
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Italy the saying is "Every fruit has its season." But a culture that demands cherries in January -- and gets them!- is always going to try to resist the natural course of life. Just remember that there are probably millions of people who PRAYED to reach whatever age you are. Be grateful.

    Lara Verne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of people think that 'growing old gracefully' means keeping their youthfull looks and beauty. God forbid if you have wrinkles or grey hair.

    v
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Growing older is a privilege? What kind of b******t statement is that? Is OP the arbiter of who will have the privilege of growing old? By what measure do they make their decision?

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    #13

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) The commodification of your hobbies. They're about how you spend your leisure time, not another revenue stream

    SlightlyFarcical , Vicky Hladynets Report

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The pressure and scrutiny is real. Anytime I enjoy something and seem to do it well, a family member says I should sell it. Turn it into a business. Business is mainly about the administrative aspects, and you worry a lot more about finances and keeping up demand. But you have to get your start. Just because one or 2 people say they like your work and ask to make stuff for them, doesn't mean they actually want to pay you for it, nor does it mean many other people want your work. I think some people just say they want a piece of your work as a way to show they support your endeavours, but not in a genuine way.

    Tree P
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had the same experience! A family member mentioned my fantasy dolls were great and I should sell them. I responded if I were forced to make them, they wouldn't be fun anymore. Plus, they are alot of work, and I'd worry a small child would wreak them.

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    AndThenICommented
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. So much this. Hobbies are about individual expression and don’t need to (or should be) commodified

    Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I learned to paint in prison. I once sold a painting for a bag of jalapeno poppers. Monet, Dali, and all that lot NEVER sold a painting for a bag of jalapeno poppers. I win!

    Little Wonder
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do a lot of crafting, and I do sell some of it at markets and online but it's not really a "side hustle" because I refuse to hustle. I weave because I love to weave and it's good for my brain to do it, I sell (or give away) because there is a limit to how many scarves I need. Could I sell more if I hustled? Yes, of course. But also it's my down time, and down time is precious so I'd rather just do the craft than spend an hour making a stupid video for Instagram to promote my stuff.

    Mabelbabel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do embroidery and cross stitch and have done for years-I'm pretty good at it now. I generally gift them to friends for things like weddings, birth celebration, new home, and also for charity auctions. I constantly get people saying I should sell them and it's really irritating. I don't want to commodify my hobby, because then it wouldn't be a hobby, and I'd get stressed out with deadlines. And people simply would not pay for them-the basic cost of equipment per piece is about £30-50 depending on size. Framing is £40+, depending on size. I can do a greetings card in an evening (3 hours), but a larger picture can take 150 hours or more-even if I price my hourly rate at £8-10, no one would pay £1000+ for a tapestry, despite it taking me hundreds of hours to complete.

    The Other Guest
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you commodify it, it's no longer a hobby. It's a job, and why would I want to take my means of relaxation and turn it into a job?

    Petra Schaap
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    thats... strange. A lot of people would LOVE to be able to make a hobby their living.

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    keyboardtek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Turning an activity you love into making money can often ruin your pleasure of doing it. You lose the freedom of doing it how you enjoy it and become beholden to the market forces that dictate you do it in a specific way.

    whineygingercat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As soon as you monetize something, it no longer qualifies as a hobby. I have had so many people see what I can do, I crochet and design doll clothes, and the first thing I hear is "you should sell those online" and "do you have an Etsy?"

    Devon Archer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is so much pressure in the United States to turn absolutely everything into Dollar signs. It's like, don't people understand you could die any moment and that you can't take your money with you?! Just find something you enjoy doing for you and don't pressure people to make it a business. Sheesh.

    Ash
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've really started trying to embrace the idea that it's the process, not the product. I do this because I enjoy the DOING of it. No, I don't know what I'm going to do with one more crocheted shawl, but it wasn't a waste of money to buy that yarn: I was buying supplies for DOING a thing I like, which is the crocheting itself, not the item I made. It's making a big difference in how I talk to myself about my hobbies. Much less stress and guilt.

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    #14

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Now with smartphones, assuming that people are available and obligated to respond to you. I sometimes wish we lived in the older times when you had to call someone’s home landline number and leave a message, then wait for them to respond back at their earliest convenience. Now it’s, “I texted you, you didn’t respond, are we still friends, are you mad at me”? Blah blah etc. like no, I simply just didn’t feel like responding. I’m a busy adult, and just because there’s a texting feature on my phone doesn’t mean I’m always willing to engage in conversation with you.

    pwa09 , Gilles Lambert Report

    kitten levels tokyo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a cell phone for my convenience, not yours.

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of us even remember a time when we couldn't leave a message.

    Geoffrey Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I prefer e-mail. No pressure to respond, when you get the message, please reply, if needed. My wife and kids put me in these group texts, everyone replying, phone going off, me damn near throwing it out the window. "take me off this thread please:"

    Giraffy Window
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I only stay in group chats I agreed to be part of. I find flash group chats very rude and disruptive.

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    leendadll
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are appalled when I tell them my phone is literally always on mute.

    Justin Tyme
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I turn off my phone at bedtime. I refuse to wake up to answer the phone.

    DeeDee M
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sort of approach texting like a message board; if you respond right away great, if takes two hours or two weeks, no biggie. If its a big deal ill call you.

    Kathy Richardson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't have a cell phone but I do have a landline with caller ID. I still don't answer if I don't want to talk to you.

    Epona
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a cellphone and a landline with caller ID and I don't answer if I don't want to. Or don't recognize the number.

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had this conversation so many times with various people. I will not sugar coat how annoying and off-putting it is. Works like a charm. They get the point.

    Epona
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think if I were friends with someone who "needed" an immediate response to their text to know that I was not mad at them and that we were still friends, I would not want to be friends with them. I'm a pretty good judge of character and have a good bullsh!t detector, so I hopefully wouldn't end up befriending someone like that.

    Caroline Nagel
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tend to type a response and then forget to click send.

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    #15

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) That athletes are paid so much than most people because they provide entertainment and branding.

    Yesenmjn Report

    PattyK
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Athletes are wa-a-y overpaid!

    Natasha Kuzmanoska
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bezos is overpaid more than all athletes combined.

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    MR
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one is faulty. Athletes are overpaid. BUT it's because we, as a society, overvalue athletic competition. For the business they're in athletes are actually some of the most appropriately paid employees. As a model, we should be paid as much (percentage of revenue) as they are. That's not to say we should all be making millions, but that over all they're making a good 50+% of the revenue they help generate and so should we.

    Devon Archer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I enjoy watching sports sometimes but really it's a bunch of grown men putting a ball into a basket or trying to get a ball past a line. It's utterly ridiculous when you think about it. Especially since so many are struggling and entertainment is way more valued than education and people's well being. I would be thrown into jail or beaten to a pulp by saying sports are kind of dumb in all honesty.

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    arthbach
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I find it greatly disturbing that in the USA, in most states, the highest paid public employee is a sports coach. It is utterly disgusting.

    Kathy Richardson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am 59 and still don't understand the "entertainment" value of watching someone else play a game.

    Ender Fink
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People get paid based on how much money (wealth) they create. Right or wrong, that’s how we calculate economic value. As much as it sucks that important jobs like teachers and social workers get paid less than actors and athletes- thats how capitalism works.

    Rayne OfSalt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If that was true then cashiers at fast food stores would be the highest paid people in the world.

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    Castles
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They make a lot of money so why shouldn’t they be paid well? Loads of people/posts on this site talk/moan about companies making loads of money but employees don’t get paid to reflect that. Isn’t this exactly the same?

    Angrykitten
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would rather the money go to the Athletes then more go to pockets of team owners. Stopping the fetishizing of sports in general would help this one. Football in the USA is crazy, almost like a religion

    Teachzebra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is one of the oldest clichés out there. People are going to make what people are willing to pay. As long as people keep paying high prices to go to sporting events, as long as they watch games on TV, as long as they buy T-shirts and jerseys athletes are going to make a lot of money. However it should be noted that only a small percentage of athletes make the ridiculous amount that will guarantee them generational wealth. The majority will make far less than that. Yes, they are making considerably more than the average person. But they will also likely only have a two or three year career. A football player who earned $3 million but is out of the league by the time they’re 26 will now need to do something else for the next 40 years. If not that comes out to an average of about 75,000 a year.

    Mike D
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You'd rather the money go to the billionaire owner only instead of spread across the team and administration? Same reason college athletes are now getting paid. In the end, you get paid what you're worth and how well you sell yourself to the person paying you. Stay in one job and be the expert, you will get your rewards, just not "tomorrow."

    Robin Hawkins
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to think they were overpaid. I read a book by a former NFl player,I cannot remember his name. Sorry. He broke down the average salary and how many years ,on average they may play. The math is sad. An injury could end everything ,shortening their careers. I no longer believe they're overpaid. It's nothing like an average job/ career.

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    #16

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Thai dowry system. In Thailand, a man is expected to give money to bride’s parents before he marry her. The amount can be a lot. This puts groom in financial pressure. He could use that money for future child education or taking care of his soon to be wife BUT he has to give them to her parents. This also treats bride like a commodity, a trade. It devalues women.

    Ok-Yard1630 , Karolina Grabowska Report

    Oberyn Martell
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is called sin sod, often confused with a dowry. A dowry is the brides family giving the groom money, livestock etc.

    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And it's just a gesture. The money/goods are (usually) given back to the newlyweds. I was once at a wedding in Thailand and the money and stuff was displayed. The next day it was given back to couple.

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    CanadianDimes
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my sister got married, my parents (jokingly) told my BIL that her bride price was three camels so he bought them three little stuffed camels. It was great

    Der Kommissar
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The dowry system in India is out of control. If a bride's family does not give enough dowry, (usually consisting of expensive appliances,) to the groom's family, there have been instances of murder of said bride.

    Lord of the laserprinter.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same everywhere. In my humble opinion if it flys, floats or fornicates, it’s always cheaper to rent.

    Jason Melvil
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same applies for couples wasting a fortune on the wedding when they could use the money for better things

    KatSaidWhat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happens in Africa too. Labola ?sp

    Ariadne Toms
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes Kat labola is alive and well in Africa to this day men pay the family and women are paid for like cattle.....or swapped for cattle

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    Asri X
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Better that no money change hands, but from a women's rights issue, this option is FAR better than western dowry. Bride price acknowledges the woman's value. Western dowry pays someone to take a woman away because she is of low value to her father.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Basically, the parents sell the groom a piece of tail they raised

    censorshipsucks
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is a thing all around the world. https://direct.mit.edu/isec/article/42/1/7/12164/In-Plain-Sight-The-Neglected-Linkage-between

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    #17

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Not going to the hospital because you have no health insurance and would rather die than bankrupt your entire family.

    wordsaladspecialist , Yassine Khalfalli Report

    Belladonna.dreams
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And hope that you have a decent life insurance plan to make sure your family is okay after you die

    Lyone Fein
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    1 year ago

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    martin734
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, only normal in the USA. This is absolutely not normal or accepted anywhere else.

    Penelope
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. Came off a green horse and landed wrong last year. Tried to tough it out becuase i dont have insurance. 2 weeks into the agonizing pain i finally broke down and went to hospital. Id broken my tailbone and 2 vertebrae. Now I'm 50k in medical debt that I'll never get out of. Learned my lesson. Next time I'll just stay home and die.

    Pipe Kasuko
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Going to hospital = generally covered by tax-payer monies. Going to THE Hospital = a Business model, ruined by frivolous (and costs for genuine ones) lawsuits, greed of insurance and pharmaceutical companies; Typically this phrase, in this manner, is only used in North America. Also, hospital visits in other countries are NOT free, it is paid for by tax payer collections. It appears to me that the rich and affluent in the USA are rather reluctant to cover the costs of people poorer than themselves, which can also explain the extreme poverty and its expansion in small and cities, as well as hunger and homelessness.

    TotallyNOTAFox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My last hospital stay did cost 4.300 bucks for treatment and staying there for 7 days - had to pay 70€ for occupying a bed and getting food

    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This would be at the top of the list for most Americans.

    Castles
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in Scotland and our main hospital is an 45 mins away by car. Twice I’ve been rushed in to the hospital by ambulance and the next day having to pay over £50 for a taxi back. Luckily the treatment is free though but I’ve refused hospital treatment in the past because I’m not paying for taxis home

    T0t@lly-f!ne!
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait until you find out that you have to pay more after you die than the actually medical care.

    Maggie Fulton
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember seeing a woman lying on the platform in a Muni station in San Francisco back in the 1990s yelling, “Don’t call an ambulance! “ The healthcare system is completely broken.

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    #18

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) That a person's worth is tied to their job and economic activity rather than their character.

    Jumper_5455 , kevin laminto Report

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are so many people of many different walks in life. People say you should work as a server to understand tipping culture, or work in retail to understand patience and empathy. But try working in a thrift store, or volunteer at a shelter or soup kitchen. You'll realize there's a whole aspect of life you didn't think was there, while meeting people you enjoy talking to but would likely move to another seat if they sat next to you on the bus.

    Craig Becker
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Alternatively: that business executives, rich people, and celebrities are smarter, better, more honest than the rest of us.

    Isaac Harvey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, character doesn’t guarantee a happy life.

    Steve Hall
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Character won't get you very far in the check-out line at the market.

    Maggie Fulton
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The idea that people who work in manual labor or service jobs are somehow of less value than people in desk jobs etc.

    Miliukov Oleksandr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How much niceness should I have to get my groceries?

    #19

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Beauty standards (for men, women, etc) Human bodies should not be treated or seen as a trend imo

    LilacMages , Rosa Rafael Report

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only time I see people caring about trends is in magazines and online. Sometimes in school. When I'm out and about, I see people with many different looks, wearing all sorts of clothes. No one cares anymore. Anything goes these days. I could wear Victorian era clothing on the bus. I may get some stares. Perhaps someone may strike up a conversation. But no one is going to shame me nor anyone else, because people are too busy on their phones to notice anything anymore.

    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, 40 something Goth with no effs left to give here.

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    TotallyNOTAFox
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As long as it's still healthy there is no reason to call anything out (morbid obesity shouldn't be normalized)

    MayaGeGe
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of that ex (30 years old) who very strongly believed it was an absolute natural necessity (like brushing your teeth or showering) for women to shave it fully down there. Like it was part of the daily routine of literally all women, and if you didn't do it you were just lazy or neglecting yourself.

    Shelli Aderman
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t wear makeup. Never have, and as a result, I tend to look younger than I am! 😉

    Castles
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not only on the outside but the inside too. Autism adhd etc people thinking they are trendy they are not

    David Paterson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One scientific study showed that people with crooked teeth are only employed in lower paying jobs. That is so toxic.

    #20

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Work full time, have a perfectly clean house, be fit because you exercise regularly and be the perfect mother and partner on top Edit to add: have a successful career 

    Awkward_Profession45 , CDC Report

    Kevin Sutton
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm male and clean the house as my wife has asthma...

    Doug
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "perdectly" clean house and "perfect" and mother and partner don't resonate as a conon expectation to me... tough for those faced with this though. Not being a slob, staying healthy, and being a good parent/partner certainly seems like a reasonable expectation though. And the simple fact is many have no choice but to work full time. But in a household that can afford to do otherwise (and I don't mean scrape by), the yeah, working full time is also reasonable.

    Astro
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually recently changed my expectations for my own house from “clean all the time” to just “don’t be a slob.” Now I feel better about leaving laundry unfolded or being too lazy to sweep one day. As long as the dishes are clean and there isn’t garbage or food left out, then whatever.

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    Lotekguy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the 1950s... except for the successful careers part, which was virtually nonexistent for women

    Angela Jester
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And don't forget to be humble and expect no recognition for the work you put into all of that

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Try to keep up with the Jones' and you'll end up living a life spiralling around keeping up with a gazillion things no one will care about nor notice. Btw, those super organized restocking videos, with all the food being put in reusable containers, I tried recreating this. I gave up. It's so time consuming and not everything fits. I have more containers than I now need, and they're taking up more space in my cupboards. I took them out of my fridge. The people that do these videos, that restocking is their job. They got a whole set up specifically to make these videos. They don't really live like that at home. Pretty sure some of them are just restocking a small store they own.

    Jesha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bruh those commercials about creams for how 'bad women's crotches smell' lately are killing me. I'd get if they were marketed to summer or post workout but no, they just go on about how gross we smell.

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    #21

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) That everyone should look like a social media filter. It feels like every app has filters on it now, some of them automatic, to smooth out your skin, even its color, make your eyes bigger, add makeup, make you look skinnier, make you whatever it is you aren't enough of already to be perfect. And I think it's making us expect people to be essentially CGI versions of people instead of actual people.

    sleepyhollow_101 , Ryoji Iwata Report

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't use filters, and if I do it's for fun. Since I can't wear makeup much I like seeing what would like good on me. So far, I'm good with my natural looks. But not a lot of people are okay with that, so even on my personal FB account I keep my profile not of me. Jackasses sure like to assume I'm a huge, obese person because of my round, plump face I inherited from my dad. Or criticize my hair. Or just feel the need to randomly say I'm so ugly. I know they're just trolls, jerks and trying to get a rise out of me. Nonetheless, when it's all the time, every time you comment on anything, it gets exhausting and starts affecting you. I believe this is why a lot of people refuse to show their faces.

    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a goth so I wear a lot of makeup. Only two colors though. White and black.

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    Bec
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate having my picture taken, I feel sorry for the younger generations

    Liz Downing
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A co-worker recently updated her cover photo. I didn't recognize her.

    Astro
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was on a Teams meeting the other day, wondering why my skin looked so nice and dewy. It was some kind of mild filter 😬 I swear I’m gonna forget what I actually look like if this keeps up!

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    Javelina Poppers
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In real life I look like a furnace filter that hasn't been changed in months.

    Jesha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay but I've never seen someone with a linty complexion.

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    lawrence Andrew
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you do not want to show your actual face it's better to use your pets face.

    Not-a-Clue (she/her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've recently received two different ID cards on which the pics I sent to be used were then so badly/ heavily filtered they no longer looked like me, so not only defeating the entire point, but also telling me that my unfiltered face isn't 'good enough' to represent their organisation. I found it extremely rude and complained.

    Steve Hall
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe just turn the camera off.

    Marilyn Holt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So many of these suggestions arise from what the internet does to us.

    Jesha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's terribly sad, and something I've seen a lot of older women especially doing. Many people I know won't post a picture without that lens greasing effect. It's dehumanizing. Not even the most beautiful people in the world are 'good enough' to go without some amount of editing and, frankly, I'd rather see pores and bellies and imperfections because the human body is glorious as it is.

    Nicola Mawson
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you don't like me as I am, your problem

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    #22

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) 40 hour work week

    Northernlake , Campaign Creators Report

    Cat Furr
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We now get a flex day every week. We can either work the full day, work the hours we want, or not come in at all on our assigned day. No questions or restrictions, it's completely up to us. AND WE ALL LOVE IT!

    megasmacky
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know if it's true but I once read that the 40 hour work week was predicated on the idea you have a wife at home to do all the domestic chores and childcare.

    Mabelbabel
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my current department, the lab staff can do flexi-time. The lab has to be manned between 7am and 7pm (not overnight or weekends). The staff do a 40 hour week, basically an average 8 hours per day M-F. But they can choose-some do 7am to 3pm, some 11am to 7pm, some do 2 long days 7-7 and 2 short days of 7 hours and take one week day off etc. It's far more complicated than everyone starting and finishing at the same time, and it would only work if you have enough staff at the same grade doing the same work so they are interchangeable, but it means they can do the hours they prefer-some people are early birds and like to start early, others prefer a later start and work late, so they've more control over their working life. Everyone definitely prefers it-took a while to iron out issues, and I know if we take on new staff it might mean a bit of readjustment, but its working well.

    Foffy Skrimshaw
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry but I don't think 40 hours a week isn't that much. It's not even a quarter of the week

    Miliukov Oleksandr
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    are you aiming for less or more? (also, you are not forced to work actually, right?)

    iseefractals
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The 40 hour work week became the standard in 1940, two years after child labor laws became a thing. Prior to that, your work hours were determined by whenever you were awake. From the time you were 5/6/7 years old, sun up until sun down six days a week, until you died. Hard, physical labor in conditions that had never even heard the term "safety" A large portion of the world still has that standard of work...they make your clothing, toys, electronics, they grow and harvest your food and recycle your trash, and they're paid less money in a month than you make in a day. But no, who could ever hope to cop with the horrors of spending 40 hours a week in an airconditioned building.

    Lady Gypsy Rain
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know this thought process is an exercise in futility as it’s not likely to ever happen, but what would this world in the USA look like if the service industry was salaried per week. Up to 40 hours per week paid a base salary that is supplemented only by working overtime or holiday pay.

    Bruce Horton
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Spending less than a quarter of your week supporting yourself, oh the horror!

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    #23

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Women have to be strong, but not too much, have to have a job and intellectual background, but have to be ready to do the home chores on their own if their partner's job is more "important" than theirs. They have to care about their appearance, but not too much, or they will be considered as attention seekers. They have to be able to smile and talk in public, but not too much. Basically, if you are attractive, people will tend to think you are "only" attractive and not so smart, and even that you got the job because you are pretty, but if you are considered less attractive, you may be categorized as someone whose intelligence and sensibility are not enough... Double standards between men and women is a real thing

    AikaNemo , LinkedIn Sales Solutions Report

    Fran F
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Strong inside but you don’t notice; good little girls they never show it” Madonna - What It Feels Like For A Girl One of the best commentaries about the constant, contradictory rules/expectations women are taught from a scary young age (in a great song)

    GettingCereal
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For real. "But for a boy to look [or act] like a girl is degrading because you think that being a girl is degrading."

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    keyboardtek
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    1 year ago

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    On the other hand, men are expected to work a full time job, then expected to know how to fix the plumbing, the electrical, the furnace, do all the exterior lawn maintenance, paint the house, fix the car, fix the stereo, get the internet to work. Be supermen.

    Lexekon
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Double standards hurt both genders, neither one is getting better treatment, just different versions of unfairness.

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    #24

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) That it's far more important to kill people than to educate them ie, Military spending v Education spending. Why we don't want everyone to be as smart as they can be is a crime against humanity

    TittyTwistahh , Kenny Eliason Report

    PattyK
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The two most important services a government provides are education and health care, and they’re always the first to have their funding cut when it’s budget time.

    Bartlet for World Domination
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And infrastructure. The thing many companies use but refuse to be taxed for.

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    keyboardtek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Republicans cut funding for education whenever they can. Because a well educated person would not vote for them.

    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First, the U.S. spends more on education than the military. The perception otherwise is based on the fact that millitary spending is federal, and education spending is mostly local. Second, the notion that military spending is to kill people is abhorrent. We could've erased all life in Iraq in a moment spending about 0.01% as much as we spent, and the reason our mission largely failed is that we refused to kill even the bad guys. The Iraqi former government's strategy was simply to kill as many innocent women and children as possible, and blame their deaths on "the war," and therefore the U.S., which the U.S. media bought into 100%. Now, even if you think the war was a terrible idea, you must know that nearly all our money was spent preventing other people from being killed, not killing people.

    Doug
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not the tradeoff happening there...

    megasmacky
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why would a govt that's basically owned by the corporate world want an intelligent, thoughtful population of critical thinkers? They want obedient, compliant consumers who don't ask questions. There are enough kids in the top public schools and private schools to eventually run things, fill the corporate, professional positions, etc and the rest don't matter. People think the education system is broken. It isn't, it's running exactly as designed.

    Mike D
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where in the constitution does it say the federal government is responsible for education? That's the states. Talk to your state govt. And don't vote for the tax on a special item that will go to education. That only leads to the politicians cutting the funding from the general fund for education. Colorado is an example of that horseshit

    HurlWurk
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The dirty secret is that there is not enough room in the job force for everyone to be educated.

    Matthew Barabas
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    actually, education spending in the USA is about 800 billion, which only counts the ones the *government* spends. there are schools owned and operated entirely by private entities. so, its actually quite a lot higher.

    SM
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "In fiscal year 2020, governments spent a combined total of $1.3 trillion on education". "US military spending in 2021 reached $801 billion per year"

    WakandaPanda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe educating people more would mean you're understaning others and not killing them !

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    #25

    How brutally sexist family court is against men. It doesn't matter what the mother did, she is almost always going to get the kids, the house, and turn the father into an at will atm. One of my Marine buddie's wife cheated on him while we were deployed. She got pregnant and my friend is on the hook for the kid, even though DNA proved it wasn't his. He was seen as a source of income for a piece of s**t mom by the court. For 18 years this dude has to pay for a kid that isn't even his. Family court is the most distilled form of our societies beliefs about men.

    Mick0331 Report

    cugel.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know the whole truth of the matter, but anecdotes don't cut the mustard.

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not sure what was going through that judge's head, but I have heard of many instances where the dad got full custody of the kids. The mom has to practically leave her kids, be a danger to herself and/or her kids, neglect their education, and not have sufficient housing. But I've heard of very abusing parents keep custody of their kids. Often times the mother has to leave because she can't afford the home, even with child support. Family court and justice is not consistent. It's confusing.

    Bewitched One
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He is a good dad though. We have our differences but I have to admit that much atleast. She is much better off now with him. He even allowed her to live with moms dad so she didn't have to switch schools until this past year, which is atleast 5-6 years after he was granted full custody. He made decisions based on what he thought was best for her and I think that says so much about him as a parent.

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    Orwell
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother had the longest running civil court case in his Wisconsin county, trying to get custody of his son. The mother repeatedly didn't show up to court, asked for continuances for ridiculous reasons, a retained custody throughout. He eventually won joint custody - and went into huge debt in attorney's fees. Ridiculous.

    Jason B
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Attorney fees! That's what it's all about. Both lawyers play golf together and laugh about screwing you over

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    Jessica Bertram
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, this makes me really skeptical. I know of no court that would make a man pay child support for a child that wasn't his. Unless he formally adopts the children through marriage, courts, etc.

    Bewitched One
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In America, in certain states, a child conceived during marriage, even with a dna test, would still be considered the husbands child. Especially when the husband has been the main father figure in the child’s life and the biological dad was never in the picture. Thankfully, though, there aren’t many states that still allow this to happen

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    The Darkest Timeline
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So here’s a perfect example of blind adherence to “traditional gender roles” being toxic

    Racing Tadpole
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mums don't always win..I had 40% custody and that was considered good as he's a unemployed bum/ oh i meant...stay at home Dad. And I paid monthly money 💰 big time

    Kathleen McGann
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I bet this inequality could be eradicated if women made the same wages as men. Then they wouldn't need to sue men just to take care of their kids.

    Suzanne Dwaik
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If DNA proves it's not biological his no court in the US would oblige child support. He must have got conned into it. Not mandatory by court but more likely a manipulative partner.

    Verena
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the kid isn't his, and it is proven, no court (outside US) would let him pay for it. There seems to be more behind this story.

    Gracie Jay
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yea, something sounds fishy about that. I wouldn’t trust the courts with most things, at least not in my area, but having a dna test show you aren’t the biological parent is kind of basics.

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    MakeupMama68
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s gotten better in California… it starts out as 50/50 custody and is adjusted from there depending on several factors like work, etc. My friend and his ex exchange their kids every Sunday. They used to do it mid week but the LA traffic is so horrible that weekends were better. Plus it’s easier for school. My other friend has the kids 4 days a week, and her ex the other 3. When I was growing up, it was the standard for moms to have the kids for the week and dads on the weekend or every other weekend.

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    #26

    The idea that body hair isn’t ok on women.

    Typical-Tomorrow-425 Report

    censorshipsucks
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate bodyhair on myself as a man, so... it depends on individuals. I think men with bodyhair look like a donut that fell on a barbershop floor. It grosses me out. Especially bears.

    Přemek Marek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That seems like a weird bear-hate flex... (I know about the missing d, calm down)

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    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    TBH it's kind of gross no matter the person's gender. Then I may be a bit of a weirdo who shaves myself to be as smooth as a seal. But that is my choice.

    Belladonna.dreams
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate shaving my legs. It's time consuming, the razors I need are pricey and I still have problems with ingrown hair because my skin is tougher than my hair. I've tried so many different things. It's bs.

    CatLady
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your leg hair itches you (mine does), I make a simple sugar/water/lemon juice combo and it waxes off beautifully. Takes a bit of practise, but it's way cheaper than razors, and I don't have the itch.

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    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You only need to look at the reaction Julia Roberts got on when on the red carpet and waved revealing (brace yourselves now for the horror!) that as an adult woman she had armpit hair, to see how widespread this expectation is.

    WindySwede
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One year there were a random women in the the audience, on one thing on Swe tv, that got publicly shamed just for having natural hair under her armpits.. 😶

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    Alicia M
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't like much body hair period, regardless of gender. I don't like my husband to be hairy either.

    CatLady
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if that's your attraction, that's your attraction. I'm assuming you don't tell other people their body hair repulses you?

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's okay to some. Not okay to others. Lets not give anymore thought and attention to the naysayers.

    Xenon
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't mind body hair on either gender, with one exception - thick back hair. It just skeeves me out.

    MurderMittens
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do men like hairless women because they look more like children? Just wondering

    KC T.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had an aversion to body hair since puberty. It's the idea that some men believe women rid themselves of body hair for them that pisses me off. I don't like body hair on my body and get rid of it for myself. What a man thinks isn't even part of the reason.

    megasmacky
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been told I would be VERY popular in the gay community as a bear. Alas, I'm straight and women generally don't find my hairiness very attractive.

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    #27

    That you need a over priced college education to succeed

    Case_MCT Report

    Earl Grey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s pretty well recognized by now that higher ed is not the Golden Ticket that it was a quarter century ago.

    The Darkest Timeline
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is still 100% true that college grads, on average, earn more than non-college grads. And if you want to work in a field that has degree requirements, you’ve got to have that degree. That being said, going to an expensive school isn’t necessary, especially for undergrad and trades are definitely being talked up a lot more as viable options for good employment. We’re pretty much past the “you HAVE to go to college to be successful” stage.

    keyboardtek
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trades school. Electricians and plumbers charge $150 an hour now.

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a lie that is a requirement. It really depends on the field you want to work in. Some people just fall into a career by accident.

    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    By the time you're my age, you've fallen into five or six.

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    Nick
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to work for a branch of government. One of the interesting things is everyone's salary is public information and you can easily look it up if you know where it is. I went to community college, then a local 4 year college. One of my colleagues went to a nice private school and another went to Notre Dame. We all made the same salary.

    Mabelbabel
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are so many different routes, but some schools seem to do nothing but tell their students they must go to university. One of mine is going into engineering via an apprenticeship course. This means he'll be working, learning and earning at the same time. He learns with his hands and is far more practical than theoretical, so this is the ideal route, it's 2 days a week tutoring, 3 days learning on the job and he'll come out with a degree in 4 years, and also with 4 years work experience. But we had to find this ourselves-his school only offered career guidance based on A level grades and college degrees, and absolutely nothing about apprenticeships, BTEC, City and Guilds courses etc (all UK qualifications). I'm sure there are loads of young adults feeling forced into traditional university courses and not feeling the right fit for them, but thinking that's the only way to a career.

    Likes cats a lot!
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not everyone has the same measure of what success is anyway.

    Bruce Horton
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In case pandas have not been paying attention for the last two or three decades, spending a shitton of money on a useless degree is, well, useless.

    Steve Hall
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One thing I know for sure is that an uneducated plumber can make a doctor or lawyer cry when they get his bill.

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    #28

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) The work 9 to 5 for almost all your life. It's like you have been born to work, pay taxes and consume.

    Pandours , Simon Abrams Report

    Midwest Mike
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would love the idea of ONLY 9am to 5pm FIVE Days a week. Instead of in an ever growing majority of jobs 24-7 365. Both are terrible. People are not machines. Billionaires are not normal. 1 Billion Seconds is 31 Years. There needs to be Govt Control in the United States FOR THE WORKERS. THE PEOPLE THAT PRODUCE ACTUAL HOLD ABLE ITEMS AND GOOD!!! CEOS DO NOTHING!!! EAT THE RICH!!!

    Verena
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is caused by us ourselves, expecting 24/7 365 service and getting in a tantrum when it is not possible. Overnight delivery of gadgets. Delivery of groceries within an hour. Pizza delivery within 30 min in the middle of the night.

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    Castles
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Technically you have. How are you going to survive if you don’t work? Live of benefits all your life? People annoy me moaning about working. If you aren’t happy about working don’t work, don’t make any money, then see how life is.

    Max Fox
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Welcome to life. Do people think that humans evolved in a world where they lolled about all day long? Do they expect to be provided everything they want and do nothing in return? I have no idea what these numbnuts expect in life. It's OK to demand that you get a livable wage, affordable healthcare, affordable housing and affordable food, but these posts seem to be demanding "I don't want to work, I don't want to contribute taxes for roads, schools, healthcare, etc, but want to be fed, housed, and taken care of". The level of frickin' entitlement oozing from these posts is insane.

    Lexi Harkins
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well put! Don't wanna work...? I DARE you to find ANYWHERE in the world that $ ISN'T needed. If you're REALLY gonna quit working... You don't get the right to complain when the world WON'T help you. Get off your butt, and be a productive, otherwise, stop b***ching, and find a nice cave to live in, and leave the rest of the world to those that actually want to. Sorry, not sorry.

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    Geoffrey Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...oh and by the way we in power now want you to work until 70 before you collect the retirement you deserve.

    Bruce Horton
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People do not work "most of their lives". Most people work about half their lives. I know this a terrible thought for those who think leprechauns will grow the food we eat,make the clothes we wear and build the homes people live in.

    2WheelTravlr
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, you are perfectly within your rights to quit working and see if the life of a destitute transient works for you. If you're wanting the paycheck without the work? That's not an option.

    Roland C.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can drop out of society any time and try to live off the land like our ancestors did but you'll be working a lot longer than 9 to 5 under conditions that don't guarantee you will be fed every day or find adequate shelter for all weather conditions.

    Matthew Barabas
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and this has been a thing for hundreds of thousands of years. nothing changes. maybe get a hint.

    Ariadne Toms
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Work eat sleep die lol ....there is more to life

    Russell Bowman
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pack your van, park it on some BLM (bureau land management) unpaved side road and become a hunter gather. Your problem solved

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    #29

    That corporate profits _need_ to be in the pockets of few, to _safe_ the economy, but losses and crashing corporations are okay to be socialized on the shoulders of the tax payers...also to safe the economy

    yeti-biscuit Report

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Corporate welfare is maddening, but society seems to not complain about how much of their tax money goes to those saving graces for rich companies, like they do with people on social assistance. https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/governments-in-canada-spent-more-than-350-billion-on-corporate-welfare --- https://www.hoover.org/research/welfare-well-how-business-subsidies-fleece-taxpayers

    GettingCereal
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you know the "look that guy's trying to steal your cookie" caricature?

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    axle f
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If we gave the money we give in corporate welfare to poor folks, we'd do the country and economy a lot more good ...

    Epona
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this supposed to say "save" the economy? "Safe the economy" doesn't make sense as a sentence, imo

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    #30

    It is okay to conscript men to go die in wars.

    KneeGal Report

    The_Nicest_Misanthrope
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    War is old men talking and young men dying

    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "There goes old blood and guts" "Yeah our blood, his guts" PATTON 1970.

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    Caroline Nagel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Israel both men and women are conscripted.

    megasmacky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like any halfway decent person I believe in equality for women but my issue with modern feminism is this: Women in the Ukraine are allowed to leave with the children while men are forced to stay and fight. Funny how I've never heard of a feminist organization calling out the monstrous sexism of this. When men talk about women cherry-picking rights and responsibilities, this is what they mean. There are no atheists in foxholes, I guess no feminists either.

    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe the great disaster of the Vietnam war was that people were being conscripted to fight when it wasn't in their own obvious interest, or that of their loved ones.

    Becca not Becky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one depends though. In WW2, it was very much necessary to have a strong military. Vietnam, however, is a different story.

    Lexi Harkins
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a USNavy vet, that was in Dessert Storm... SCREW YOU!!!! I lost friends in that war... Just you could drive a f*****g suburatank.

    Stannous Flouride
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Michael Moore asked members of Congress to sign their sons and daughters up to serve in Iraq. Of the 535 members, only one had a son in military and none agreed to.

    CatLady
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rich man's war, poor man's blood.

    Lady Gypsy Rain
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don’t worry. It shouldn’t be long before it’s men AND women. 😔

    Marilyn Holt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. The suits around the table are never on the front lines.

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    #31

    That student loans are ok. They are everything but ok.

    Cute-Kiwi-Boy Report

    Geoffrey Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am less concerned by the loans than I am with the usurious interest charged. My kid pays 12.5% on hers. Stupid old Dad said," you do not need the extra $5K each semester (extra $15k+/yr) but, nooooo.

    Maggie Fulton
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Student loans might be okay if they weren’t so predatory.

    Happy Homemaker
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are about as bad as the payday loans that we are warned against getting.

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    Adrian
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The bigger issue and, AGAIN, it's America is that there is an expectation to go massively into debt to get a higher education that you may never use.

    Teachzebra
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem is that we have vilified the loan companies who have given millions of individuals who otherwise never would’ve gotten to go to college the opportunity. Instead of vilifying the universities which grossly overcharge for tuition and the greatest scam of all the boarding costs. Then of course those colleges have enormous endowments and will hound their alumni for money for the rest of their lives. It’s also very simple economics why student loans have such a high interest rate, because unlike a mortgage or a car loan the lender has no collateral. They can’t take back the person’s college education. The default rate on student loans is extremely high that’s why they have to charge an enormous amount

    Happy Homemaker
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn’t have a problem paying what I owe. Maybe even a reasonable amount of interest. I owe $7000 roughly. I don’t owe close to $50,000 because I became disabled and my previous doctors refused to fill out paperwork to discharge the loan because they claimed they were afraid the federal government would go after them if they filled them out. I had four doctors tell me that. All independent of each other. Where would they get this idea and why would they say that? What idea is the government giving doctors to make them tell patients this?

    Vedette Aecus
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    1 year ago

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    It's your choice to pursue the education, it's your responsibility to pay.

    Carwyn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    education shouldnt be so ridiculously overpriced

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    #32

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) The expectation of being constantly employed. If you're not producing something then you're worthless.

    ImReadyToEndThings , Kenny Eliason Report

    RavenTheCat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well if im not employed how can i live? Yknow without an income

    Little Wonder
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people have jobs that pay enough to allow them to save money and take some time off working. Not me, obviously, but I've heard about such jobs...

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    Doug
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've taken 4-6 months off at a time a few times in life. No one thought I was worthless for doing it. But I saved enough to do so when I was working and didn't jeopardize my family's well being or future. If you're unable to put yourself into a position of taking leave, and become a drain on your family or society, then you are reducing your worth to them (i.e. "drain"). So maybe not worthless, but potentially worth less.

    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have no problem with people not working. I have a problem with them believing the fruits of labor magically appears. But if someone wants to "drop out" of society and live in a tent in the woods, more power to him.

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The one question I despise "Do you work today?"

    Donteatme666
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or are you working right now? 😕 No I'm taking care of my mother but heaven forbid

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    Ervin Conn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you are not employed then volunteer for something. You are only worthless if you contribute nothing to your community or society as a whole. You just might learn something! I am sure your local animal shelter would love a helping hand.

    lawrence Andrew
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your not worthless if you can afford to support yourself. Your only worthless if other people have to support you.

    KC T.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, in the US, you have to be employed. There's no other way to survive if you aren't.

    Isaac Harvey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why we need Universal Basic Income. If politicians can afford to pay themselves millions every year, the same should be feasible for the rest of the population.

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    #33

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) That we are expected to move out of our parents' home the day we turn 18. With the current COL and entry-level wages, this just isn't possible for most people. EDIT: I'm referring to the US in this example.

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    Orwell
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know anyone who expects or achieves this in the US today.

    Belladonna.dreams
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know if many of the parents can afford to have their kids move out anymore

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is really a family choice. However, I do get how it's this big expectation. On the contrary, I've noticed more and more people being understanding and seeing my take that I'm allowing my adult child to remain living at home until she wants to move out. 1. We have a great, close relationship. 2. She's intellectually disabled (although high-functioning), and benefits best with having a support system that is currently in limbo. 3. We both contribute to the bills and groceries, making the cost of living for us both more bearable. 4. It just makes more sense. We can't think of any reason that makes it important for her to move out. 5. She helps out with the chores. 6. Nothing compares to coming home after a hard, long day of work to hugs, kisses and someone to gab to. 7. We cook for each other. My kid likes to try out different recipes and get creative in the kitchen. She's not a bad cook. She loves mama's cooking, too.

    Murphy Pants
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My children are 25,25,23,22. Three have BS one is still in school. Oldest is pursuing PHD. They all live at home. We do have a 10,000 sq ft home but why leave. No rush. Save your dollars.

    Beth H
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All depends. I also know quite a few kids who live with their parents for far too long never learning how to survive on their own, budget, etc. When they finally do move out they are lost.

    James016
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve seen a lot of posts online from kids (and they are kids) being kicked out on their 18th birthday. They have nowhere to go and have not been taught any life skills to actually live on their own. Just because the law says that you are an adult 18, does not make it so mentally.

    Mike D
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Generational houses are few and far between in the USA. It would be good to return to that standard, but families have to be re-brainwashed first.

    Melissa Harris
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This a a very culturally based, and very recent, expectation. In many, many culturals children are expected to live with their parents until marriage; and sometimes even afterwards. Multi-generational cohabitation was the norm for our prehistoric ancestors. Migration from agricultural subsistence to urban labor during the industrial revolution; then, the introduction of child labour laws in the late 19th and early 20th century is the cause of the collapse of multi-generational living in western European, and westernized, nations.

    Isaac Harvey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m 20, going to college part-time, working full-time, and still living with my parents.

    Angela Jester
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think we need to normalize generational homes. I think the stigmatization of people who live with parents has always been wrong.

    TotallyNOTAFox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are very quick with their judgement - I always get wierd looks if I say that I still live together with my mother, that she's care-dependent usually isn't the first thing people think about

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    #34

    That it is okay to be overweight/obese.

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get what the movement was for, but then it became this entity of encouraging unhealthy weight and succumbing to the weight problem. However, I don't think bullying, shaming, body snarking those who are obese or anorexic is doing anyone any good. Just let people exist, deal with their issues in peace and mind your business.

    Giraffy Window
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. It's a you problem when someone else's shape or size causes you offence, and it's not their responsibility, or even actually any of their business to make you feel better about what you're seeing. Look away.

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    Little Wonder
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We should normalise NOT being horrible to people, often complete strangers, because they are obese.

    Natasha Arruda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As someone who was morbidly obese most of their life, I agree. It's a nice idea to not be so hateful and accept that an overweight person is still a person but it now seems to be at a point where the inclusivity is just a hall pass to not try and help yourself be healthier and almost demands people cheer others on for being morbidly obese. It's still a sickness, and a lot of times it's using food in a way similar to drug users, self medicating mental health issues by eating their feelings. ( On a personal note, I had medical intervention via gastric bypass in 2013 and have been under 200 lbs for 5+ years. )

    Tyranamar
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are really fortunate to have appropriate medical intervention. I have good health care and am getting appropriate treatment. My friend does not. She is much more overweight than I but is told she just needs to diet and exercise. Like obese people have never thought of this or tried this. She was actually shamed for asking about treatment options. There really is a huge divide based on income. And many obese people are trying. But it's a very Complicated issue.

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    Breadcrumb.
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're fat you don't deserve people being straight up nasty towards you for it. It's okay to exist as a fat person. You deserve just as many rights as anyone and respect. No stranger should be "concerned" for you. This attitude sucks because it's dehumanizing.

    Becca not Becky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only people who have any business in saying something are the healthcare providers and close family/friends who know the situation better. Even then, it needs to be tactical and real concern, not judgment disguised as concern (the strangers example you gave).

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    Stephanie Ann
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being horrible to anyone over their appearance is evil. If you don't like how someone looks, just leave them alone. It's none of your business. You have no idea what they may be going through emotionally or medically. Judging others because they don't fit your "standards" tells me more about you than them. Oh and I'm "fat"- you have no idea how much I beat myself up over it.

    JayWantsACat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think most people are "okay" with being overweight/obese. The whole point is to not be an a*****e to people who are.

    LonelyLittleLeafSheep
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ideal body standards have changed a lot over time. There was a period when "plump" was preferred and a sign of good health while thin was taken as a sign of ill-health. Athletes and skinny people have heart attacks and strokes, while someone with a BMI of "obese" is actually relatively healthy. The point is that no one has the right to comment, police, or shame anybody else for their body type! If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. It's that simple. Just mind your own business! Edit for spelling.

    Lady Gypsy Rain
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s less about weight more about health. As a former fat person who was also not healthy, I needed to shed the pounds (and I still have health issues that will last a lifetime and gets progressively worse each day, I might not have had to deal with them as young or at all if I hadn’t allowed myself to get so large via yo-yo dieting). But there many skinny people who are unhealthy and many larger people who are healthy. The judgement that people feel they have license to possess and espouse is the problem here. You truly don’t know anything about their health to pass judgement. Also you don’t know why people are the size they are. It could be thyroid issues, it could be mobility issues that pre existed weight gain. So please step back from your negative judgements and just stay in your lane. It’s really none of your business.

    quentariel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Body positivity in itself is a good thing and should be encouraged as every person's body is different and very few people actually fit the mold social media presents. Still, it's different thing to accept that everyone has different body shape than promote morbid obesity. Being a bit overweight isn't a problen, but if you need three seats in airplane and demand the extras for free, we are way past normal.

    Ryan-James O'Driscoll
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People who are overweight, of which I am one, should not be attacked or criticised because of their weight or appearance. But at the same time, being fat is a symptom of an unhealthy lifestyle and people dismissing legitimate health advice as "fat shaming" are not helping anyone.

    Auntriarch
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True, but if it anyone wants legitimate health advice, Bored Panda is probably not the best place to find it

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    #35

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Being a divorced woman over 35 means I hold absolutely no value and am essentially doomed to die alone. It doesn't matter I was a loving, devoted wife for 14 years or that he tried to kill me over his drinking and that's why we're divorced. I'm just old and used up... I couldn't possibly use my education, career and everything I've secured with those to treat the man who shows me kindness and makes me feel safe like a king...

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    Doug
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't have been divorced long if 35 and married for 14 years. And the "he tried to kill me..." Not to mention nowadays being over 35 and divorced seems kind of normal... about as normal as being remarried. This one's a "woe is me" sorry more than anything normalized I think.

    Little Wonder
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's reasonably normal for older women to be overlooked even by older men. Not all men before anyone jumps on me, but plenty of men think they're Leonardo Di Caprio and stop looking at women once a woman hits 25.

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    Sprouted Tater
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After being divorced almost 30 years, I stopped checkmarking the little box on forms that asked what one’s marital status is, as divorced, now I check “single’ at age 75.

    Libstak
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I'm just old and used up". Letting others impose their prejudices and judgements on you is your first mistake. Thinking you need validation from a man for your sense of self worth is your second. Life can be full whether single or coupled, you decide how to fill it on your terms. Death to codependency.

    Neffla Parsons
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a woman, 48 years old, single, never married, no children, 3 rescue dogs and a rescue cat. Would not change this for anything.

    Neffla Parsons
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mind you, took me MANY years of trying to be "normal" and feeling like I should be in a relationship or being in one that wasn't working etc until I realised that I'm just much happier and more mentally balanced living on my own with my little animal family.

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    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    35 is way to early to give up. Those are the best years of my life TBH.

    Bob Brooce
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm trying to figure out if this is about the OP's perception of typical societal views or the OP's self-assessment.

    Donna Peluda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don´t know where this is coming from. Plenty of woman find a partner at 35 or older after divorce.

    Lady Gypsy Rain
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My soul mate passed away in 2018. I’m now 50 yo woman with no kids left in the home. I was assaulted in a hospital in 2022 and can’t walk without my walker or cane. I’ve suddenly found myself as being left on the shelf and everyone I try to date is not interested in ever getting married again. I won’t waste my time on these types of relationships because I want relationship security at my age.

    Giraffy Window
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I'm widowed or divorced at 36+ I will grieve, then happily continue to grow old and will purposely die unpartnered.

    Marilyn Holt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually i don't understand why your can't use your education and experience at 35. A message to women: don't make 'your' man the focus of everything you do.

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    #36

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) I find icks really stupid and majority of "icks" are everyday things and are completely normal. I've seen videos of icks and it includes people wearing backpacks, people still have a childhood teddy bear, crying or being in love with something. I just think that the standard of icks are stupid

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are getting way too snobby these days.

    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WTF is an "icks"? I'm 43yo I must have missed this one.

    WindySwede
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/icky 👍

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    Lauren S
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This context is so weird. Of course I’ve heard of something being icky, that’s an adjective (I think). But an “ick”? When did we make that a noun and how come I couldn’t even connect it to icky in my brain? Oh yeah I know… social media. I don’t do social media so I’m very out of the loop on things.

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    Ace
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had to look up "icks" and it seems to refer to "irrational things that turn people off". So yeah, irrational, and therefore stupid.

    ~nope~
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In one episode of Love Island I remember one woman telling a guy that yawning was an ick????? Wtf how is that normal???

    Lady Gypsy Rain
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I say icks, it’s usually surrounding unsanitary conditions or practices but I’m also ocd and absolutely terrified of touching soiled objects. I’ve been known to double glove and then washing my hands in scalding water followed by germx followed by more scalding water and more germx and rinse and repeat over and over until I’ve drained the hot water tank. So, when I say ick it’s literally out of fear over exposure. Oh. And I automatically consider anything to hit the floor as immediately being unsanitary and have a difficult time just picking it up to put it in the garbage bin. I know this isn’t normal and I’m getting help for it but it’s a slow process.

    Karen Southern
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You poor thing that must be terrible to need to clean yourself that much. But what makes you feel good is important too!

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    Pheebs
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol. People who complain about my backpack can suck it. I have to carry a jacket, a laptop or tablet, my wallet, emergency feminine products, a water bottle, etc. I am not getting one of those giant a*s purses with zero organization, and hangs off one shoulder to carry all that s**t. Backpacks are meant for this, so a backpack I will use. People who ick over this apparently don’t have to carry anything. Also, just because someone is over the age of early 20s, doesn’t mean they don’t attend school. I took college courses up until my early 30s.

    René Sauer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah, hat´s stupid. Like an ad I sometimes see on youtube where a girl says to the dude she is dating " Next time let´s go to your place." and he is like "*gasp* I need to get rid of all the childish things in my room ASAP. Let me sell them on ebay." Like, dude, if she has a problem with you still having some your childhood stuff in your room she is clearly not the right one.

    Libstak
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a form of bullying via exclusion. You give me an icky, therefore I don't have to include you in whatever, even if it's a class group or professional team, or you're my sibling, I'm leaving you out and telling everyone you make me feel icky....

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    #37

    the standard to man having to be a "real man".

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    axle f
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...perhaps the definition of what really makes a man a decent adult male needs to be a little more widely broadcast in a more culturally pervasive way?

    Apatheist Account2
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The definition of being manly, IMHO, is doing what one wants to do and believes is right, and not bowing to the pressure of expectation from others.

    Gerald Ogden
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. Too many forget that toxic masculinity's effects hit ALL genders.

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    #38

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) Oh, just a **tiny, unassuming question** to start the day! Well, alright. While the idea of "most" can be a bit subjective because, you know, one person's "f*cked up" can be another's "**Tuesday**," here are a few contenders in the grand pageant of societal standards that might just take the cake: 1. **The Pursuit of Perfection**: Society has this *adorable* little habit of promoting impossible standards of beauty, success, and overall lifestyle. This might not raise any eyebrows until you consider the small, **inconsequential side effect** of causing widespread insecurity, anxiety, and a booming business for therapists and social media influencers. Who doesn't love a standard that creates a perpetual feeling of inadequacy? 2. **The Stigmatization of Mental Health**: Nothing says "progressive society" like still treating mental health issues as a **taboo** or a sign of weakness. It's almost impressive how persistent this standard is, considering the leaps and bounds made in understanding the human brain. It's like society collectively decided that mental health can be swept under the rug with last century's dust. 3. **Work-Life Imbalance**: Ah, the glorification of overworking. Society loves to peddle the narrative that working yourself to the **bone** is the only path to success and fulfillment. Because who needs hobbies, relaxation, or, dare I say, **sleep**, when you can have the joy of chronic stress and burnout? 4. **The "Us vs. Them" Mentality**: Society has a knack for creating divisions among people: race, religion, nationality, sexual orientation, **pineapple on pizza**... you name it. It's as if humanity decided that life wasn't challenging enough and opted to add a level of difficulty by fostering unnecessary hatred and prejudice. 5. **Financial Status as a Measure of Worth**: Nothing quite says "f*cked up" like equating a person's value with their bank account. This standard is great because it completely overlooks minor details like **character**, **integrity**, **kindness**, and whether or not someone is a good pet parent. Of course, there are many more, but then this would turn into a **novel** instead of a light, sarcastic banter. Remember, the beauty of society is that it's made up of individuals, and individuals have the power to challenge and change these standards. Or, at the very least, make snarky comments about them.

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    kitten levels tokyo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Holy cow! Somebody buy Joice a bottle of wine 🍷.

    ƒιѕн
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    **To** "Long" **Didn't** "Read"

    Lauren S
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Read” lol, so you you kind of read it but you didn’t read read it? 🙃

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    Earl Grey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Way too many ** ** ** ** ** ** **’s !

    WalterWhiteSavannah
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I **love** using ***lots*** of *unnecessary* *****asterisks****

    Lauren S
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kind of liked them. Lol. But the I really liked that our assistant director emailed out telling someone good job. But put “good job” in quotes! 😂 he really did mean it as a compliment, asterisks may have served him better.

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    JuniorCJ82
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's with all of the asterisks?

    Jesha
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They start and end bold text in some places.

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    David Paterson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fair enough. I particularly agree with number 4. The toxic promotion of hatred in every possible way. For example by the media.

    BlueBlazer999
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ahh yes, light sarcastic banter.

    Giraffy Window
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The beginning was so scattered I lost interest.

    Epona
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same. Did anyone bother to read the whole thing and figure out the TL:DR?

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    Sunshine Lady
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So we have problem with #1 and too many therapists, but we are still stigmatizing mental health as #2.

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    #39

    People Explain What Things We Need To Stop Normalizing Immediately (40 Posts) In the US, circumcision. 

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    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FWIW, I'm circumcised and I'm glad for it. I'm also a guy who shaves down there so I'm not normal I guess.

    Sven Grammersdorf
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have preferred to not have my genitals mutilated, but I was an infant at the time and couldn't express my wishes

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    Queeqec
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Genital mutilation is a general problem, not only for men, not only in the US.

    Sky Render
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Worldwide, genital mutilation of infants. It happens a lot of places besides the US. Anything down there deemed "unacceptable" by a culture is likely to have the knife taken to it. And in the case of ambiguous genitalia, an entire web of lies ends up being constructed around it and lifelong gaslighting from family and medical professionals alike ensues. It's quite disgusting that few seem to see any problem with this.

    Lama
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lots of people understand that giving your baby a tattoo is crazy, you can't permanently change someone's body without their consent! But then they chop of some foreskin and pretend it's all good. You have no right to make this choice for your children.

    meow point1
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it's fine if someone wants to do it as an adult, but not with babies.

    David Bramhall
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    1 year ago

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    Why? What harm does it do?

    similarly
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in Japan. Circumcision is almost nonexistent here. Circumcision does prevent some complications ... that occur in only about 1 in 50,000 males. And let's be honest: this was popularized in America because people thought it would discourage boys from masturbating, not because of any real benefit.

    Giraffy Window
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *non- medically required circumcision. There are times when circumcision is absolutely necessary. I had a friend in college who's foreskin began basically strangling their peins. They were in such excruciating pain that walking, standing and sitting became impossible, and they had to drop out till they could get a surgery date. His issue was a genetic one; when Drs are aware there's a family history, they will medically recommend it to the expected parent/s. Otherwise it's an abuse and needs to be banned. Your child's bits are not yours to decide traditions about.

    Adrian
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I've never understood that. I'm British and intact. Never had any issues and never seen any convincing arguments why it's necessary, even for religious reasons. Basically, it's child abuse. If the kid wants their penis to be mutilated, let them decide when they're an adult. Same with female genital mutilation which is mostly illegal.

    Mike F
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    1 year ago

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    Get a grip. It's not anyone's business if a dude has a helmet or an anteater. It's lots less common than it used to be and it's something very personal.

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    Western society at any rate, sets the decadence of eating well, eating good, eat often, eat in fancy places, eat ti show off, eat to indulge with fancy restaurants, eateries and expensive tastes....but then betrays people by saying gluttony is wrong, weight gain is wrong (it often isn't good), image is everything and we should look perfect and be in the gym looking like Instagram models... Sexualising teens. Advertising and normalising the overt sexualisation of kids barely past puberty as if they're fully responsible adults. Neurology has found the brain doesn't mature fully until around 25+ years old. But society scores teenage pregnancy, tells them they don't understand life's complexities and is now saying that if a boy approaches a girl he likes to flirt, it's tantamount to sexual assault... Basically, modern Western society is the congestive dissonance on a full blown scale...we don't want people to suffer, but we dgaf about homeless, drug addicts or those suffering. We want to appear virtuous and noble, but we're rotten and corrupt to the core...life is one big venetian masked ball of everyone pretending to be something they're not and social media, for good or bad, has amplified that to the nth degree because we can all live make-believe in public and then surrender to our deepest and most lustful desires behind closed doors

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone else think the Garage clothing store ads are ... uncomfortably suggestive? Me and my daughter see it all the time in the malls.

    Lady Gypsy Rain
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Garage clothing store ads. Not a term I’m familiar with. Is this a brand or store or am I completely out of it? Ok, I’ll admit to being completely out of it, but would still appreciate a little bit of info on this. Tysmia

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    Robin Roper
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It doesn't wait for teen years, we are sexualizing children.

    GH
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cognitive dissonance by any chance?

    Devon Archer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hypocrites and walking Oxymoron's everywhere in the USA. I still love this country in many regards and there are lot's of great people! it's just everything is so backwards right now.

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