Men Point Out Male Behaviors That They Hate And Here Are 35 Of The Best Spot-On Answers
The concept of manhood has been evolving a lot lately and it continues to be a subject of ongoing discussions.
The notion of "being a man" is no longer limited to conforming to rigid social stereotypes but instead encourages them to express their unique identities authentically.
Earlier this month, a Reddit user made a post on the platform, asking, "Men, what do you hate about men?" And it quickly went viral. Here are some of the most upvoted replies that they have received among thousands of comments under the post.
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It bugs me that so many men can't just have female friends. One of my best friends is female. She is married, I have no interest in her romantically. She talks with me about her pregnancy, vents to me about issues she hss with her husband, etc.
My male friends always act like I'm trying to hook up with her or she is trying to hook up with me.
Nope. She is genuinely just a friend.
Yes! One of my best friends is a guy and I genuinely only see him as a friend
Load More Replies...I thought I had a kind male friend at martial arts. Turns out he was trying to get a bit touchy-feely during one of our classes and then wanted to use me, an asexual woman, as an one night stand after he broke up with his girlfriend. I also thought another man in martial arts was being kind to me and was actually interested in my goal to get more women interested in more traditional Japanese martial arts-- turns out he wanted to sleep with me. Sigh...I left martial arts after that. I do have extremely lovely platonic male relationships, however, I just feel sad that I always have to be on high alert. As a biromantic asexual women it does make me scared to get into relationships as I'm always worried a man or woman is going to cast me aside.
Don't give up on martial arts communities. It was one of the safest places for me in the universe as a 13-18 year old girl. If you're still interested, don't let that douche take that away from you.
Load More Replies...my best friend is is female and she is my person we have an incredible bond
I'm a single male, no kids, no ex wife and currently no dating prospects (i'm happy with all of this btw). I envy women's who talks each other about their day, you know the little things that happen to you in your daily life. Men's don't have that. If you don't have something especially to tell, you won't recieve a message or send one. For that i have female friends.
Literally my best friends are women!! They have always had my back!! Guys are great friends, but there's always a one upmanship going on with some. I have a few guys that are great, however my female friends always explain to their husbands ,boy friends that I was there before them and often because of them. Not everyone goes through life crotch first!!
I have a theory about this. from a young age parents typically romanticize male/female relationships, (Has a boyfriend/girlfriend in preschool but obviously not dating). This belief carries into adulthood and is why some people are uncomfortable with their SO talking with members of the same gender. This might be the reason behind some incel ideas, friendly or kind behavior being viewed as romantic.
Society does try to push us into those kinds of relationships. Thanks for reminding me of this. I need to not ask my nephew (high school student)or niece (college student) those kinds of questions. I just need to let them know I'll be there if they need me.
Load More Replies...We got in touch with the Redditor who started the discussion and they were kind enough to have a little chat with us.
"The reason I asked this is because I was talking to someone and they were saying that they wish men were more aware of what they do, so I thought maybe if I asked men what they hate about men, I could see how many of them actually realize what is wrong and also see that not all men are bad," the Redditor told Bored Panda.
If you have to declare that you are a nice guy or that you are an 'alpha', you are neither of those things.
I'm the Supreme Ultimate Ubber Super-Duper #1.0 Alpha Alpha. In fact, I'm so Alpha, I make the other Alphas like like they were Alphas in Alfalfa. ALPHA!
Ok. This also goes with the 'I'm a good Christian" "I'm being honest" "I'm not bragging...." Anytime anyone has to say what they are its a complete ploy and lies are soon to pile up. And dues, acting like Mr macho doesn't look good either.
And I love it when a guy in his 20's who is wanting to date me, an over 50gal, says he 'so mature'!! OMG
If you declare yourself an Alfa, you are a predator, not a human being worth living with.
I get criticism for liking knitting and baking I'm over it
No I don't want to watch sports and drink alcohol
My partner is making a dollhouse for one of my nieces. Cut out the wood pieces and carved cute little gingerbreading and everything. But it doesn't end there! He & his brother have spent weeks picking out the decor, oohing & ahhhing over the tiny furniture, and literally squabbling in the fabric store picking out the best pattern for the drapes & such. 2 grown åss men being this excited about making the dollhouse of this little girl's dreams just touches my ❤️ in a way I can't describe. He also bakes like a pro. 😉 Enjoy your hobbies!
Yes! I love baking and cooking, talk about it shamelessly. I kid you not, a guy in my class came up to me and asked me “are you gay, I’ve been confused about your sexuality for two years.” Like, I’m straight please and thank you, as if that’s VERY MUCH your business, and why were you wondering that for. TWO. FRIGGIN. YEARS. For context, this is probably one of the most conservative kids on Earth.
I'm 6'2", 300 lbs and work in a very masculine profession. I love crochet, origami and baking. I've never gotten any static about it from anyone at all. Usually people are more excited to talk about hobbies or see what I've done than they are judgemental or even surprised. I think a lot of the judgement is all in some folk's heads.
Why do we "genderize" so many things. So dumb. Loads of the men I know are the best cooks in the family. I know female engineers, fire fighters, police officers, we have tons of male nurses here.
Enjoy your hobbies. Conformity is overrated. Have you knitted baking themed items like cake or muffin shaped hats or scarves with cupcake patterns? Cuz that'd be awesome.
My husband cooks dinner for us. I get weird looks when I tell people this.
"I think society doesn't really have an 'ideal man' because no one is the same. If there was, there are definitely multiple versions of it, as there are many different cultures," the Redditor explained their point of view.
"I don't see it changing anytime soon, as the world takes very long to change."
Meanwhile, a Pew Research Center survey found that relatively few men (9%) say it’s very important to them, personally, to be seen by others as manly or masculine, while 37% say this is somewhat important to them.
However, the survey also discovered that many men face at least some pressure to engage in activities that are sometimes associated with “traditional masculinity;” more than eight in ten say men face pressure to be emotionally strong, with 41% saying men face a lot of pressure in this area.
More specifically, 57% say men face pressure to be willing to throw a punch if provoked, 45% say men face pressure to join in when other men talk about women in a sexual way, and 40% say men face pressure to have many sexual partners.
That we’re constantly yelling about men’s mental health, then turning around and calling a dude feminine for having any emotion other than anger.
Engine oil and gunpowder seem to be the only acceptable male emotions. ;)
Load More Replies...I was terrified, first going to a see a phycologist in a mental health facility with the thick metal doors and giant locks. But all the push button locks are on the outside and there's just a handle on the inner. I could leave when ever I wanted. They are to stop people getting in. And once I started talking I couldn't stop, it flowed out of me and I cried my eyes out. Growing up everyone did whisper words, for the things you were not allowed to talk about. I'm old and gray and wish I gone to therapy years ago.
Because the ones that are loudest about “men’s mental health” as an issue don’t actually really care about it, they just use it to derail the conversation with some half-assed “gotcha” when they’re trying to undermine anything about issues related to gender inequality regarding women and girls. That’s literally the only time they bring it up, and as this post points out, don’t support any aspect of men’s emotional support in day to day life
I hate this. I look after all my friends. Before my gf came out as trans I never judged her for her emotions- always helped her best as possible and I still do.
Thank you for doing that, Aroace tiger. You seem like a wonderful person.
Load More Replies...I hate it when I hear a woman say she doesn’t think men who cry are masculine. A man who can cry gets my heart every time.
- Objectifying women.
- Being proud of cheating but expect fellow men to be silent about it because of "bro code".
side note: what an absolutely accurate stock photo. that's exactly what men look like while they're degrading women. good job BP. genuinely.
Wait wait...I thought bro code was not going after your friend's crush and not letting your bros be with s****y women. Has my silly woman-brain misunderstood all this time?
Objectifying anyone. Looking at you BP. I see posts on here from women objectifying men all the time and it's just as sickening. No one deserves to be looked at as less than a human being, except nazi's. F*ck nazis.
The thing is, peop0le often mistake compliments or attraction for objectification. Sometimes even appreciating the appearance is enough. I can't and I won't accept that liking someone's appearance and admitting it is bad.
Load More Replies...Husband has a friend who cheats on his wife. I call his friend a himbo.
Bro-code is synonymous for lying, cheating, womanizer, Bas#*@rd, user, abuser, and neglect. times two because they always travel in two or more. They need their bro code wingman.
I worked in a traditionally male job back in the 80’s. One of the guys was dating a woman from another crew and everyone knew except me. A few weeks later we were at a party and this guy was there with his wife. I mentioned a night he had recently taken off, not knowing he had taken it off to be with the woman he was dating and not his wife. Once she realized what I said, she ripped into him and a shouting match took place in the hallway. I felt bad but I also felt those guys had their “bro code” and maybe should have told him to not get coworkers involved in his love life. They eventually got divorced and he began openly dating the other woman.
This. I’m not judgmental about types of relationships as long as it’s consensual. Open relationship, poly, casual, it’s all ok as long as you’re honest with your partner and they are ok with it. I’m a one woman type of guy myself but different strokes for different folks. If you can’t treat your partner as a human with emotions then you’re not ready to be in a relationship.
I can't stand the recent rise of this horrific alpha, sigma, machismo, misogynistic, toxic, incel, red-pilled manosphere b******t. It's destroying insecure young men across the globe, and it sets them up to be angry and bitter a******s as they grow up. Guys who blame women, and literally anybody other than themselves for their romantic shortcomings are upsetting.
Pathetic redpill chuds like Andrew Tate or Elon Musk are getting WAY too much platform these days.
It's not just destroying young men; some of them go on to murder innocent women.
Thank you for saying this. I work as a tutor and anytime I hear a male student, especially one under 13 say he likes Andrew Tate, I die a little inside.
It's not recent, it's older than Noah. It's just that now we call it by different names.
Not at all. It's been happening since the beginning of humanity.
Load More Replies...I was with this comment until the last part. Implying that insecure young men are alone to blame for their own problems is a huge part of the issue. We live in a toxic culture that builds in insecurities and preys upon them. Implying that young men's problems are due to their own failure as men to be something inherently toxic isn't helping the situation. These men need emotional help, but they only get derision from the groups who claim to care, while the alpha douches actually seem to give a damn about them. It's no wonder it's so appealing to some people.
Men need to start showing up for themselves. The culture is absolutely toxic (I mean, it's a patriarchy) but men do bear some responsibility for unlearning bad habits, and cultivating emotionally supportive and connected relationships with other men. Everyone is struggling right now—it's amazing to me that marginalized groups who are actively being silenced and oppressed work tirelessly to further their causes, yet men as a group seem lost when presented with the idea of being able to emotionally care for themselves and other men. If they choose to follow Andrew Tate instead of doing the work that is 100% on them.
Load More Replies...Little long but: The “Red Pill,” a term that comes from the 1999 film The Matrix, has become a framework for individuals to describe their awakening to some previously hidden supposed reality. The major contemporary secular male supremacist movements—PUAs, men’s rights activists, The Red Pill, and Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)—all use this terminology to describe their “realization” that men do not hold systemic power or privilege. Instead, they awaken to the “truth” that socially, economically, and sexually men are at the whims of women’s (and feminists’) power and desires. As in the film, to be blue-pilled is to accept the mainstream narrative and choose to live in ignorance of the truths of the world. Red Pillers see themselves as intellectually superior to “blue-pilled normies.” From: https://www.newamerica.org/political-reform/reports/misogynist-incels-and-male-supremacism/red-pill-to-black-pill/
Load More Replies...Can the be pinned to the top...the top of everything. Women needs to stop oogling men like this. It doesn't help.
The author of the post is right, change takes a lot of time. In his book Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do About It, Richard Reeves, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, explores several of the key challenges that boys and men are currently facing, including the "friendship recession," the evolving nature of marriage, and the gender pay gap.
The friendship recession is particularly affecting men, with the percentage of men who report having no close friends increasing five-fold compared to the 1990s.
This social isolation can lead to numerous mental health issues and negatively impact their overall well-being.
They don’t seem to really like women. Just having sex with them.
Far, FAR too many men seem to view women as a hole to f*ck with an unfortunate personality/opinion attached to them. It's disgusting.
In some ways I'm ok with that (just like I'm ok with some women only viewing men as a walking d**k). But, that needs clarification. If you're upfront and polite about just wanting sex with the other person then it's fine. Also need to be graceful about taking no for an answer too. Sure it's not a way to create a relationship, but many people regardless of gender are up for meaningless sex. If it's all above board, there's no coercion or trickery involved then why not? If however, the guy (or for that matter woman) is gaslighting their partner, "faking" a relationship (so to speak) and only in it for sex then I don't think it's right.
Load More Replies...Men who act like women in general are just so “difficult” and hard to please. Uh,no, you just don’t have a clue about how to really connect with someone.
The use them, abuse them, leave them, kind. (Not using the term abuse as in physical abuse per say but in mental abuse.)
How so? Sadly, there are some men out there that just see women as objects in a game of conquest. This is called "machismo" and is incredibly toxic and prevalent in some countries around the world.
Load More Replies...My guy, just cuz she's being friendly it does not mean she wants to f**k you
This is such a tight rope walk for women. If we are nice to men, some men assume we are flirting and interested and might be angry with us for leading them on. On the other hand if you are not friendly enough you are told to smile more or called a b***h. Women often need to play this game of trying to assess what is the safest way to engage with certain men that won't p**s them off and thus keep ourselves safe. It's exhausting.
I get why are you nice to so an so? Well I'm nice because they won't think I want to f#ck them for saying morning!
Load More Replies...I was an officer and actually had men come up to me at work, sometimes next to my partner, and start hitting on me. I started wearing really dark sunglasses so they didn’t interpret my glance their way as actual interest in them.
Load More Replies...Sigh, this happened twice to me in martial arts. Just because I am the only women in the class, does NOT give you the right to manipulate me and treat me kindly just so you can get into my pants. I'm there to learn and make friends-- not to be your token martial arts girlfriend.
My experience exactly, just cause I'm nice to a guy, doesn't mean I want you!!
Too many guys think this. I love to flirt but gave it up for safety reasons. Too man dudes take it too dang far likes it a contest and he wins if he gets you to back down or forces you into bed. Luckily my parting shot is "I know where all the knives are hidden".
Meanwhile, marriage patterns also have shifted, creating a growing class divide, with educated couples more likely to marry and stay together than their less educated counterparts. This divide only exacerbates economic and social inequalities.
The gender pay gap persists, driven by differences in work patterns and time spent raising children. Women are more likely to work part-time or take career breaks, impacting their earning potential, and societal expectations and gender norms play a significant role in shaping the choices men and women make in their careers and personal lives.
To Reeves, these problems are generally structural, not individual, and the interventions tried so far haven’t been very effective. He argues that we ought to confront these issues in a deliberate and thoughtful manner. By addressing them head-on, society can work toward a more equitable and inclusive future, allowing manhood to evolve and thrive.
Maybe I’m too old… but recently I went to a dancing club after years of break (children and stuff) and watched literally tens of situations, where a drunk guy tries to dance with a stranger woman, to hold her, hug her, even kiss her - she clearly says „no”, pushes him, but he still keeps trying - from the left, from the right, from behind. Terrifying and disgusting. Especially when I think what my daughter would have to get through in maybe 10 years…
Any man or woman who sees something like this happening could/should intervene calmly. I have had strangers intervene in such situations and I felt lot less scared to continue the party.
Yes, Yes, and YES!!! I'm only 5'2" and I've intervened when I was young and out socializing, usually with a smile and a jiggle because, like I said, I'm not very tall, but usually by making the creeper the center of attention, they go away. And when I've been the one being harassed (even hiding in a bathroom stall once), I've always been able to thank my Good Samaritan. The world is calling for more of them!!!
Load More Replies...This happened in a club I was in! A drunk guy was hitting on each and every woman exactly as described in this post, and he didn't stop despite being constantly pushed away and told to get lost. He was accompanied by two friends who appeared to be sober. They watched him the whole time, didn't do anything and just kept laughing. It was a random man who intervened then and made that guy stop.
When I was out in clubs a lot as a student this would happen ALL the time to my friends and I. Not so long ago my pal was out in a club with another friend and a passing guy grabbed her right in the cr*tch. Her friend chased after him, telling him off for doing such a horrible thing. He turned round and punched her in the face, breaking her nose.
And people willingly support and vote for a dayglo meatsack who openly admits to that exact behaviour. smh
Load More Replies...Unfortunately, objectification and misogony has been increasing and become more 'normalized' for far too long now, and it seems to be exaggerated in the US culture. As a man, I'm uncomfortable with this, because I've always seen all people as just people, rather than categorizing someone as male/female, white/black, gay/straight, whatever. If you treat me and others like a fellow human person, I'm gonna treat you the same, no questions asked, implied or judged.
Some men are pigs. When you see these men. Do men a favor and set straight. Thank you
I feel for this guy and I don't even have a kid. Maybe some form of self defense class for her?
That you need to be an a*****e to get women.
Be good at something. Be funny. Ask questions.
That's it. It's not rocket science.
If a girl doesn't like you. Move on.
I really want the media to stop propagating the "She's playing hard to get" trope in movies and shows. It creates an expectation that when a woman says she's not interested the guy just needs to try harder and keep pursuing her. That if he comes up with some extravagant romantic gesture she's going to be into him. Look at half the rom-coms out there. With a very small tweak they become crime thrillers about a deranged stalker.
Load More Replies...And gals, you dont want to date an a*****e. So stop giving them your time. You deserve better.
I don't want to fight you because we accidentally bumped each other, or your girl. When I said, "excuse me, sorry," I meant it. Relax.
This 1000%. I don’t get it. Smallest little thing in the world and dudes gotta puff out their chest and act tough. Bro I’ve been In enough fights to know that even if I win it’s going to hurt tomorrow. You want to risk physical injury just to prove your manly? Real men walk away.
I find this interesting. I dance salsa, and guys there are often super macho. But if you bump into somebody or even step on their foot, and say "I'm sorry", the immediate response is "it's OK, don't worry". A worst, they'll tell you to be careful next time. There are fights there, but never about dance floor accidents, at least not between actual dancers. there are drunk d***s that wander in and cause problems, though.
I know this has nothing to do with what was said, but… Aren’t these the same two guys from one of the earlier pictures?
That all men seem to want to talk about sports. I care absolutely nothing about other people playing sports.
I can’t stand sports. I think men think it’s the international male language but Christ, it’s dull and I try to change the subject asap.
Glad to see you guys! My husband hates sports as well. I love you all!!! 🤩
Load More Replies...“God, those guys who dress up as characters, and go to Cons are just weird!”…”John, they do that a couple of times a year. You, on the other hand, put a wedge of cheese on your head, take off your shirt…nice beer belly, by the way…and paint your face, chest, and belly bright colors. Every. Damn. Weekend. Oh, and by the way, did you know they now make paint the washes off?”
To this day my brothers and cousin will make fun of me about how much I talked about video games as a kid. Yet there they are talking about sports every family get together. Apparently it's not a bother if it's a socially acceptable obsession
gamer myself, have been for around 40yrs yep I'm that old and I also get told to "grow up" or seen as immature and childish,those 18+ rated games are rated that for a reason (have shocked me at times),those who may have dabbled with space invaders or at a push "medal of honour" et al, unfortunately adult gamers are often seen as saddos who still live in their mother's basement portrayed by films/TV ....try to not let it get to you, enjoy what you enjoy PS I have never wanted to go out and emulate video games in real world, video games do not make people violent (people are violent already,it's a lame excuse)
Load More Replies...I would love to talk about animals except when I do it's like air talking to my family.
Tbh though, a lot of people really enjoy sports so you can still be polite about it and conversational even if you don't enjoy it.
I care nothing for it as a US man, with exception of many winter sports and some Olympic competitions. I'll be glued to winter qualifiers for Olympics, and the occasional summer competitions. And I'll gladly watch figure skating and ice dancing along with downhill slalom skiing and snowboarding. But hockey, football(US), basketball, baseball and the rest are a boring snoozefest to me. Far too many men here make one or more of those pro teams or activities their full identity.
THIS! I like to play sports (at least back when my body was up to it) but I rarely get enjoyment from watching sports - especially on TV. Sort of okay if I'm with a group of friends who are into it or I know some of the players in a local game. In both of those situations it is more about supporting / visiting the people rather than the actual game.
I hate football, rugby etc.....I'd rather spend the day on my own either fishing or on my allotment.
yep I switch off when the chit chat turns to football.....I just don't get it,as such I often get veiwed with suspicion or the best one "don't like football ! are you gay?" me: " nope not unlike have the players you worship" ps not that there's anything wrong about anyone's sexuality or indeed that it matters,it's no one's business and totally irrelevant
Load More Replies...Football/soccer. I don't get it. What's the big attraction about watching 22 guys (or women, women's football/soccer *is* pretty big these days) chasing a ball up and down a field for an hour and a half?
A coworker of mine constantly tries to flirt with another coworker even if she keeps shutting him down. One day I asked him why he keeps trying to flirt with her when she is not interested, his answer was "I take it as a challenge". Hate men like this. I hope the other coworker will make a formal complaint soon.
I partially blame the media - including romcoms. The one grand gesture turning up at her weddind or following her across the country in something in real life would be stalking. Of course it’s “finel cause you’re hugh grant etc.
Make the complaint for you. It bothers you, its not right he does this and it needs to stop. Make your own darn complaint.
Why dont you make the complaint on her behalf...."Im sick and tired of watching him harass her.."
I wouldn't do that without talking to her first. Everyone has agency, don't automatically assume she's a damsel in distress. Maybe she doesn't find it annoying and gets a laugh out his feeble attempts. In which case let it go. If however, she hates it but is scared to go to HR then think about doing it.
Load More Replies...I think there are workplace rules against this sort of behaviour. His next challenge may be keeping hold of his job.
"locker room talk". I mean, I get it to an extent. But there are dudes who go overboard with saying pretty heinous things about women in general or even specific women. The dude will turn around and be all lovey dovey.... Ladies..... If y'all only knew the things that half of y'all's men say behind your back..... I had a coworker who would say nasty s**t about women, but then he found out I was friends with someone he was interested in. He asked me to put a good word in for him. I talked to her about him and found out she was kind of interested in him to. I told her not to touch him with a 10 foot pole and told her about all the stuff he says about women. She blocked him pretty much immediately thankfully.
Although I can appreciate him telling her to stay away from him, it would also be helpful if he called him out on his behavior. As soon as he asked to put in a good word, tell him why you wont. He needs to know why his actions and behaviors aren't ok and that it's not the norm for other men to think this is ok. It can be more effective coming from a man than a woman who can be painted as overly emotional or sensitive or uptight.
I used to work with a lot of men, usually I was the only woman. Sometimes they forgot I was there. When they talked to each other, they called their wives/girlfriends "old crone" and horrible things like that, but when they talked to me, they called her "my wife" or "my girlfriend" instead. Funny that...
Like the OP says, I think locker room talk isn't binary, it's a sliding scale. Telling a friend you think someone is hot is at one end of that scale and describing what you want to do with them in technicolour, gynecological detail is at the other. Like he says, it's a problem when it gets too close to the nasty end of the scale.
giving a women a heads up like that is the very decent thing to do. Save her a major headache.
And heartache. And possibly (extreme end, but if they'll talk about women like we're sacks of meat) an abusive relationship
Load More Replies...Men. Locker room banter no matter the location is childish disrespectful behavior. Not just to women but just for yourself.
Women also warn other women about certain guys too. Men aren’t the only ones talking.
But it is nice that there are men who will whistleblow. Having an inside... um, man... can be very useful
Load More Replies..."the things that half of y'all's men say behind your back"; are you sure that it is not forty percent or sixty percent of men, and not "half"? Did you do a study about the percentage of men who talk badly about women behind their backs?
I absolutely hate competitive banter from strangers. I don't mind the occasional jibe from my mates, but if you don't know me, f*kc off with that sh1t.
meh. it depends on how far the banter goes. in something like a sports rivalry for instance, it can be fun to connect with strangers over the rivalry. I feel like talking about it brings people together that otherwise wouldn't have any connection. I love throwing a Go Blue at an Ohio State fan. Sometimes it leads to finding out where they're from, what their connection to OSU is, talking about The Game, etc. It doesn't have to be personal.
That is normal behavior for 8th grade. If you continue doing it as an adult, there is some maturing to do.
Guys do this with girls too but it’s just bragging cos if you try to one up them they get really confused lmao “oh we weren’t sparring? You were just showing off, ok.”
I used to work with this elderly man who would do this with every breath he took. It got to the point where nobody believed him on anything. After all, he owned the first diesel engine, founded AT&T, caught a bigger fish than you every time, owned a strip club, owned a Ferrari (returned it because it was ugly?)...I could go on but you get it...
I had a neighbor, older gentleman, very nice, but he would always joke by putting down my husbands looks. He would think he's complimenting me by saying my husband isn't good looking enough and wink, but it was just rude to my husband who was offended and to me. My husband is hot! I love him. I know it's a different generation and he just is teasing, but it just always made us uncomfortable.
It can be an effective icebreaker like small talk. But, if the response is not what you expect, back off.
It's sad that so many (mostly) young men are constantly obsessing about whether or not other men think that they're gay.
"I can't wear this, it's gay"; "I can't listen to X type of music, it's gay".
I used to work for my university's YouTube channel and was interviewing a guy and he asked us to move from where we were filming because the LGBTQIA+ student club's poster was behind him and people could think he was part of it.
You realize how much more energy these dudes could put towards things that actually matter in life rather than this obsession? It's seriously depressing how insecure they are.
Rant over.
You know what's gay? Being romantic with someone the same gender as you. No joke here just seems like the definition is required at times.
The funny thing is, men in countries where "we don't have gays" (which of coure is b.s.) sometimes seem to feel much more at ease with their style. I've seen men in such countries wear flowers in their hair, walk hand in hand and otherwise be physical with friends, wear woman's clothes or make up for fun, dance freely, dress very stylish and fashionable, etc.. Because nobody will think they're gay.
Non-homophobic dudes, I have heard that guys who constantly worry about "no homo" do it because they hate the idea of another man thinking they are into to men and then treating them in the same objectifying manner that they treat women. How accurate would y'all say that is?
The ones who are always worried about "looking gay" are usually the ones with latent homosexual tendencies.
This has been going on for at least 50 years - back when I was a teenager. I had a friend who rode a motorcycle, the guys all called her gay. I got my husband a western shirt that had flowers on it and he wouldn't wear it because flowers are gay. Then there were all of the secret signs to tell others that your gay like wearing yellow socks or wearing green on Thursday or wearing an earring in your left ear. It is dumb, stupid and is just peer pressure at its worst!
Is this still a thing? We said that back in the 70s. Except for us it was mostly a joke. An insensitive joke since I doubt we ever thought how a gay person would feel about it. But with everyone being so much more PC these days I didn't realize it was still a thing. I'm not very PC and I still feel bad that I used to say stuff like that (rarely). the joke is on me. I wear some "gay" things. Like one with a big silly kitty looking surprised that makes people laugh and comment on it.
Are they obsessing about people thinking they’re gay Because they don’t want people to actually know they’re gay? are they obsessing about people thinking They’re gay because they’re not but worried people will associate them with the term?. Or is it just a homophobia thing. As it always has been for a very, very long time. I am so confused with this one
I hate the "ball and chain" humour. I'm at the age now where a bunch of my friends are getting married now and it just started all of a sudden. I'm getting married soon and I've had so many of my friends tell me "it's all downhill from here". They're obviously joking, but it's just not funny. I don't like thinking of marriage as a battle of two opposing forces. I love my partner and enjoy our life together, I genuinely don't see then humour in constantly making fun of the person who's always supposed to have your back, and vice versa.
My wife and I have been married so long we occasionally pretend we’re like this in front of other people in a highly exaggerated way e.g. “Alright, me old trouble and strife, ball and chain, battle axe, etc.” and she replies “You men! All useless bastards! I’m going home to my mother!” 😎
Banter is fun. My husband and I are kinda like Al and Peggy Bundy, but in a playful way.
Load More Replies...PREACH! I've had to break off a friendship with a guy who just could. not. stop. with the whole bros before hoes schtick. f**k right off with that s**t. how about the love of my life before your s**t attitude? bye.
or "the missus will kill me if she finds out,you know what they're like" when buying something for themselves from their own money on something they enjoy/hobby)interest......if roles reversed that would raise major red flags of control and coersion....I always call them out on that one,just to mess with their tiny minds
Used to call my GF "hey, ball and chain" and she would respond with, "okay, chain and ball"
To those guys, I take it seriously: "why are you marrying someone you don't like?" It usually devolves into backpedaling about how they don't actually mean it, and me calling out the fact that trash-talking their SO, especially in public, is really not okay.
I so agree, been there! But, when some of it is said in jest, roll with it. I was friends with a couple and he would call her ball and chain less often than he would call her 'my bride' and they had been together 20 years. There was one feminazi that I worked with who hated the term 'the wife' so I made sure to use that term whenever appropriate. She never desensitized, but I had a good laugh.
My husband and I sometimes pretend to first meet each other at restaurants, just to start the gossip! (We're different races, and really old, married 34 years.) We leave together holding hands, and people think this crazy broad just picked up an old dude!
The shift from when we're all hanging with women around to just the two of us and suddenly it becomes okay for them to start making derrogatory or overly sexual comments about whoever we were just with. I'm glad you feel comfortable with me dude but I don't think you should ever feel comfortable enough to start saying those things. Respect for people still goes even when they're not there to listen.
If they talk Sheet about others who aren't there they'll certainly talk Sheet about You when you're not
It’s not respect if you only do it in front of women. It’s just performance to make you look good.
That last line!!! That’s why I never talk bad about anyone. One time someone was complaining about a non binary person for their gender and I felt so. Uncomfortable. I kept trying to get them to stop. Like, I don’t care that they’re non binary. And it has absolutely nothing to do with you, so why do YOU care? (I won’t say who it was, but it wasn’t just a stranger.)
And that goes both way! Sexual equality does not mean that women can talk crude to men. It means that no one talks crude to anyone.
Bored Panda uses stock photos just to help illustrate the topic. It's not really the people involved.
Why do you pieces of s**t have to be so damn creepy to women to the point they look at men they don’t know as a potential threat? Ffs is it really that hard to not be a pervert?
Because they feel entitled to women's time, attention, bodies and control. It's that simple.
Most adult women can feel a perv before they ever see him. Do you realize how much expose that takes? We grow up with this s**t! I was 12 when the dad of kids I was babysitting put the munch on me when he was taking me home! It was downhill from there.
Is she addressing this to the WHOLE of the male population or something?
It's a HE addressing the men who do this. Take your 'what-aboutism' and eat it, Fat Harry
Load More Replies...I was driving home late one night around 1:30am and saw a guy standing by a disabled car. I stopped and asked if he needed help and he said he’d run out of gas but also had no money. I took him to a gas station and paid for some gas. I took him back to his car and suddenly he leaned over and started trying to kiss me. I pushed him off while asking what he was doing? He said he assumed that’s what I wanted since I stopped to help him. I yelled at him that I was “trying to be nice, now get out!” I drove home saying I’d never do that again. The next morning my Mom told me some guy came by and dropped off the money I gave him to pay for gas. I’d forgotten I’d given him my address.
How creepy other men are. I’m still young, mid teens with my first job. At that job a pool is involved and my co workers, the female ones, get hit on constantly, all the time, by creepy guys. There’s one guy that comes in with kids and hits on my co worker. Another that came in yesterday had to be reported by my other co worker because the dude hit on her! She’s 16 dude! Jordan, if you’re reading this, stop going and hitting on that 16 year old blonde you perv.
Yes 100000% this. I feel like I spend half my time in the kitchen at my part time job just telling the cooks to back off the waitresses. Like, f**k right off dude. You've been flirting with her for months to no avail, so just stop.
Men need to step in. Women know how to say no, but the reason we don't is because too many of us have experienced a man getting angry and even violent being turned down, and we don't know if the guy in front of us is one of them. They don't care about women's boundaries, MEN need to police other men.
It just never ends, at work men will come in and harass the teenage girls all the way up to my 77 year old coworker. I've seen her turn down creeps left and right, after over 60 years of dealing with that you become a pro I guess.
When I was a teen, there was no way to report or complain. It has gotten better, but there is a long way to go. And to you guys who are trying to impress? You are failing miserably
My husband was shocked when his mother said this had happened to her when she was working. Worse yet, she worked at a church and it was the married minister trying to kiss and pinch her rear end.
If someone is really hitting on them, then yeah creepy. Just bear in mind that you aren't in their heads. What some people view as "hitting on" might be harmless being nice. Without seeing their actions or hearing what was said it's hard to know one way or the other. Bear in mind too, that a 16 year old boy isn't necessarily the best judge of whether someone is hitting on another person. Who is to say he's not projecting because he secretly has the hots for the 16 year old blonde?
Bragging.
Just f*****g stop. You look like a tool, and yes, it's the reason nobody likes you.
I am so awesomely, incredibly humble that I never have to brag.
Bragging is one of my biggest pet peeves for ANYBODY- man or women
Toxic men are constantly claiming that they have iron wills and total emotional control and are the strongest, but put them into a situation with high emotional context and expect them to be emotionally literate and articulate and they fall to pieces. Meanwhile, they constantly chap my a*s for being able to talk about emotions and being able to hold it together in difficult emotional contexts (and somehow related, for knowing more than five names for colors), by calling me effeminate or gay.
(NOTE: I am bi and have no trouble being identified as gay but don't tolerate being insulted for it.)
Another thing that absolutely drives me up the wall is intentional incompetence, usually to get out of doing housework, where a dude will intentionally f**k up laundry or cooking so that his partner never asks for his help again. I rat out every dude I ever hear about doing that. I've quit jobs rather than spend time around dipshits like that.
The household thing is especially annoying. It’ll only take like an hour out of your day, depending on what you’re doing, IF that? It’s helping your partner out! That’s what being a good husband is!
I wouldn't call it helping your partner. It is also your responsibility as co-habitant of the house
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As a hetero male, my wife actually prefers when I cook for us, and has come to understand that I do a more thorough job of cleaning up in the kitchen and bathroom. We both understand it's differences in childhood circumstances, and she's learning that my mild criticisms or suggestions have never been condemnations.
We need strong Moms to raise strong sons. We also need good men to raise good men. Toxic masculinity? That is not about being a good man, that is about being a douche bag. A good man supports and protects his family! That means in every way. Financially, physically, emotionally. Girls need their Dads as much as boys do.
Girls don’t always need their fathers. My dad was there, sure, but we were never close. He just earned money. We only ever interact if we happen to be in the same discussion. He is a perfectly nice guy, sure, but he never cared about me, but he did care about my sisters. I have had 17 years of life, and coped just fine without his support or love.
Load More Replies...Good for you! You're a stand up guy, and I hope you have a wonderful life!
My husband takes care of the litter boxes, cleans the toilet, makes the bed, and folds the laundry. He will do anything else if I ask. And do it well. I'm recently handicapped and he helps me dress, shower, washes my hair in the sink in between showers, and takes care of my toenails. No complaining at all. Awesome husband.
Ha, good luck being worse at laundry than me, boys 😉. Actually not funny. It’s a nightmare. Buying new duvets every time adds up.
This behaviour gives your partner the feeling that he/she is alone, that you are not a team, maybe even that he/she has an extra child to take care of. A relationship is a partnership where both partners has to contribute. When you leave housework lying around, you're leaving it for the other person to do. Why do you think you have that right and your partner does not? And there is a big chance that they don't like to do it eitherp but hey, it just hast to be done. So suck it up, communicate about chores and be a team.
"I have total emotional control".... "but my only emotion is anger" - alpha chad fuckbros.
Road rage. It’s a bigger problem among men. Everyone needs to just chill out and be patient on the roadways.
Men and women both experience road rage in relatively equal amounts, but overly aggressive driving due to road rage is a predominantly male thing and is the “bigger problem”. It endangers everyone else on the road and is just a stupid thing to do. To the guys who do this: Slow down (both mentally and your vehicle’s speed), take a deep breath, and let it go. The car in front of you cutting you off or similar isn’t worth dying for and isn’t worth killing someone else for.
CAN WE SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK?
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they have this thing where they need to be in front. to point of it not even making sense.... i was driving on the highway on a very rainy day in the right lane, and i left a good amount of space between me and the car in front of me. my exit was approaching and i see in my driver side view mirror a car coming in fast in the middle lane. there was no car behind me. this idiot decides that right before the exit he will squeeze himself between me and the car in front of me... now like most people who just driving normally, i can see other drivers intensions before they commit to it, i had already slowed down a bit cause this guy would need to slam his breaks after merging in.... then we get to the exit which has 2 lanes, he needed to be in the right lane and i needed to be in the left... i was now ahead of him, which i think made him mad cause he moved over to the left lane to turn right..... idiots.
Just once I'd like to be in someone's head when they road rage just so I can see what the hell is going on in there. What could another driver possibly do that would make you just lose your little mind?
I was raised by a single mom and have a baby sister (who is an adult now). I can't stand it when men are misogynistic, condescending, controlling, etc., with women.
My older brother (38) and I (36/female) were raised by a single mom. He watches right wing videos constantly, and has absolutely no interest in the rights of anyone other than his own. And guess where he lives? With Mom 🙃
Because in public I will intervene if I have to even if it means I’ll get hurt. Most women are afraid to help a sister out when a man is being aggressive, even just verbally. Women need to learn to stop hoping that men will get involved to stop a problem when women can do it too.
We don’t intervene because we can’t do anything. We just get cr*pped on, called offensive slurs and looked down on. We can solve our own problems, thank you very much. I have played in an orchestra for 10 years now, and I still get some sexist idiots thinking they can do the job better than me and act like I'm dumb. Stereotypes of women being dumb are not funny. We can cope perfectly fine without men intervening.
Load More Replies...This goes back to needing strong role models. Boys need men to show them how to be men and women to show them how they must be treated. The same for girls. Expect more!
We're not the ones constantly telling you how to do your job
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I hate men who have a constant commitment to the “tough guy” act. I’m someone who doesn’t take myself too seriously and often makes self deprecating jokes to break the ice. I was doing this at a casino once with a group of strangers and one guy seemed to see my joke as an opening to repeatedly mock me and assert his “dominance”. Pretty much ruined the overall mood at the table. Like dude can you just be a person for 20 minutes and laugh along with the rest of us instead of playing some kind of Johnny Bravo character?
I'm a very chill guy but I'm 6 foot 2 inches and built like a linebacker. Always get the guys who act tough but are looking for the nearest exit. I just ignore them and smile.
This is my brother. He giggles. That's his default laugh. Just a giant pussy cat, really.
Load More Replies...I only put on the tough guy act only when the situation calls for it. Like if a fried of mine gets bullied or if my autistic brother gets overly aggressive with my younger brother. I generally hate confrontations but will do it if it means to protect someone or myself.
I don't act tough and I am as far from actually being tough as can be (as a Russian saying goes, I can be broken in half with a booger flick), but I am tall and various people several times told me that my default facial expression (meaning, when I am not angry, not sad, not happy etc) is angry and threatening, and if I am casually talking to someone, to a spectator it looks as if I am chastising someone.
you should have intellectually taken him down.... someone like that does not have the mental capacity to keep up with someone like you.
The thought that any emotional openness means the guy is a homosexual.
This is so ridiculous! Guys have emotions and show them, maybe differently from women, but they show them.
The fact that a handful of selfish a******s who can't keep it in their pants makes all men look terrible. Talking s**t about women you find unattractive doesn't make you cool. It makes you a garbage human being. Any guy who posts videos on how to pick up women on the street. I don't watch them, but people talk about them and it's the most pathetic and creepy thing. If it's not staged, then the women look so uncomfortable and annoyed. A hard kick in the balls to these pieces of s**t should be legal and encouraged.
Assuming the first sentence is referring to sexual predators, they CAN keep it in their pants, they just WON'T. Men are not brainless animals who are slaves to their sexual impulses, they CHOOSE to ignore boundaries/consent/laws for their own gratification or entitlement.
I don't understand why a man or woman would just choose a random stranger, expecting to "get lucky." It's not rational behaviour.
If only it was just a handful - but no, it's waaaaayyy more than that.
No, it's not just a handful. The majority of people are not basing their opinion on another person based on the actions of one of the terrible people. More cautious? Yep.
How so many of them can’t stop being f*****g creepy and aggressive towards women. A guy tried hitting on my wife at the store the other day, which isn’t bad inherently, but he followed her to her car. When she said she was married he backed off, but guys don’t realize how scary getting followed is for most women. Even if you’re a nice dude, just don’t follow them.
...not to mention her boundaries ("NO!") weren't enough to deter the creep, but "poaching" another guy's territory was a no-go. So the potential opinion of a man who wasn't even present was more relevant than the voice of the person creep was "interested" in (not interested enough to listen to her, though)
Yes, it's the saddest thing - her being the "property" of another man is more respectable than a NO. I've even seen wearing a ring as advice for unmarried women to keep themselves from harrassment... (puke!!!!)
Load More Replies...Then when you get clear and strong and say “leave me alone!!!”, they call you a b*tch. 😤
Nice dudes follow women who are uninterested to their cars? Which do we need to redefine: Nice or Uninterested?
If you are following her to her car after her "NO," then you are not a "nice dude." There is no "even if" at that point.
I was talking with a couple of guys at work. Neither could understand why women are so "paranoid" about men. I asked them if they ever checked their backseats before getting in their cars, if they never went anywhere alone at night, if they had someone walk them to their car after hours, etc. They just didn't get it and said all that stuff was crazy.
I worked in an all-female shop for a few years then transferred to the shipping department that was all-male.
I have found the biggest gossips were men, hands down. We accuse the women of being nosy, not being able to keep a secret, but my experiences tell a different story.
A lot of stereotypes about women are just men projecting onto us; studies have shown that men talk WAY more than women, perceive conversations as equal when women only speak 30% of the time, and think women dominate conversation when they speak 50% of the time.
Or how men will interrupt a woman before she completes her thought. Even male doctors do this!
Load More Replies...Ugh, partner's ex friend was like this. Completely homosocial, boys hang out with boys girls hang out with girls, every house party needs a separation, does 1/3 of the c**p on this list, even read his wife's diary and got butthurt she said she's unhappy and decided to screw his ex on the sofa at the exact time she comes home every day. Fattest mouth in the universe. 90% of what comes out of his light beer swollen face is gossip.
I've worked most of my life in male-dominated fields, and they are the worst gossips! Like the stereotype if old ladies at the backyard fence.
In my experience working in restaurants people in general are nosy. Gender has very little to do with
Men have been blaming women for their actions since time immemorial.
Load More Replies...How could two departments with the same person working in them be all-male and all-female?
The coworkers were either all male or female. Says nothing about the Ops gender.
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That literally everything between us seems to always become a d**k swinging contest.
Nobody cares who can pee the furthest from the urinal my guy.🙄
This is one of the grossest things I have other heard, who the 🦊 cares about any of that 💩, people who care about the length of their thing or who can do it better with their thing are disgusting (by the way I’m saying thing and using emojis because I’m not allowed to curse and I just don’t want to say the other word)
Because we guys just don’t seem to understand it, women of bp, please tell us how much size matters.
The only time I've ever cared about size, was when he was too big and it made sex painful
Load More Replies...calling it a d contest is a euphemism, of course. It is the microaggressions for pecking order.
My friends have had no success with girls, and now they're at a point where they'll only make misogynistic comments all the time, while still having "getting laid" as their ultimate goal in life.
It's misogynistic ducks like Andrew Tate, not to mention the whole incel 'community' that encourage this sort of behaviour in some young men.
But, but, but ... There's no way that failure could be my own fault. It has to be other people's faults.
Having sex as your #1 goal in life is very immature and speaks loudly of your lack of success in this area. If it weren't your main goal, if you had a real life with real interests, then you might find sex more often.
If these testosterone fueled boys were just nice to women and stopped focusing intently on getting laid, it may happen!
I hate the lack of empathy and compassion displayed by so many men. I’m thankful to have had a father who was very empathetic, stuck by his morals, and did not believe displaying emotion/affection is weak or something to hide. My entire life I’ve had too many interactions with other men where I’m just taken by surprise at how they are completely incapable of seeing things from other perspectives or considering the emotions of other people. “I’m JuSt BeInG lOgIcAl” B******t, you’re making decisions and don’t care about how it makes other people feel.
They have emotions, they're just confusing it for logic because they don't know how to identify their emotions.
For some reason I have actually gotten chewed out because someone didn’t like either the decision I made, or the way I did something. The frustrating part is that I know the potential outcome or how it may impact this person or understand what they are ACTUALLY trying to explain but when I try to explain what I see it just makes it worse. I haven’t always understood these things but I also took the time to actually try to understand those things and pictured myself in whatever situation that it was. I am shocked that I rarely meet anyone else that can relate to this….
Empathetic men are always so much better than the ones who don’t care
I’m a hobby painter (D&D minis) and a very physically active person too! I love being both!
I'm not a man but I've heard both my brothers talk about how most guys won't speak up when they see another guy behaving inappropriately, even if it bothers them. Can't go against the pack.
And, in their defense, I've actually see them walk the walk and call friends out when they say/do something *particularly* objectionable.
The manosphere “dating coach” grift on YouTube and Twitch makes me despair. I’m not exactly Lothario here but I bet I could give better relationship advice
Omg the amount of those videos I keep disliking is embarrassing. All the advice they give is absolute BS.
A piece of rock could give better advice. A brain damaged makak monkey could give better advice. A dung beetle would be the fo-shizzle by comparison.
I'm single and lesbian but my relationship advice is still better than that bs
Load More Replies...Either have a purpose or make her laugh or be a good listener or very patient the requirements you will find are waaaayyyy cheaper than you assumed. I was lucky and shocked that I was funny enough to make her laugh, that’s after I tried weeks to get her number by offering to fix and replace her rear window all I wanted was one date ( her window had gotten busted out by a falling branch during a storm)
I definitely fit the bill for average dude interactions (head nods, sizing up rooms, reserved (emotionally dead), etc)
Though I cannot f*****g ***stand*** how if you have 10 things in common, and one thing that you don't agree on or enjoy together, the entire discussion always turns into *that* subject.
Ie. I'm a pretty avid weightlifter, gamer, hobby artist. I meet plenty of dudes with a shared interest in lifting. So instead of talking about that, they'll ask why I waste my time playing videogames.
Why do you *not* waste your time and lift less? Idk dude, f**k outta here.
And you didn't mention how much of the men gamers harassh women gamers, just because they are being man and "better". But I get your point too.
I once had some teenage misogynist refuse to believe I was actually a woman, saying that I must have at least been a gay dude (though he did not put it so politely) or something. Funny, I'm actually a gay woman, and yes I did just beat your a*s in a videogame, get over it.
Load More Replies...I never understood this. I'm a women and will still occasionally get this. I am incredibly active and outdoorsy. I love working out and playing sports. I also just happen to also love playing D&D and studying traditional Japanese art and pop culture. I have gotten reactions from men and women who believe you can't be both geeky and sporty/outdoorsy. It's like "p**s off!"
When I used to game frequently (as a woman), I would avoid telling something to expose my gender, when playing online. You won't believe the cr*p you get for being a female gamer. Either they want to hook up (no, thank you) or you are a b***h for winning. There seems to be no middle way, weird.
Lots of things. Mainly the predatory part of men at public places and events, preying on any woman. Slipping date rape drugs in their drinks. Rape as a whole. The whole Alpha Male b******t.
All rapists, no exception, should get the "Ken doll treatment", if you know what I mean.
If you don't respect your things, they should be taken away, lol.
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The over focus on getting laid and talking about chasing pussy. I like sex but I don’t sit around and talk it non stop
This just got to prove that BoredPanda has absolutely no idea what the heck they are doing.
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that some of us have almost no control on their sexual urges and horniness.
With all the laws and regulations found in many secular Muslim countries, this is precisely the problem. Since the men are too weak to control their own thoughts, they subjugate and blame the women.
Men that have to always prove their manliness everywhere they go.
Or doing some stupid stunt because "chicks dig it" If a girl goes out with you because you jumped off a roof into a pool there is something wrong with her.
Donald Trump / Andrew Tate types that think they have all the answers for everything.
They do, in fact, have the answer, if the question is: how do I set myself up for a trip to prison?
They’re stupid if they believe injecting bleach in your a*s is science
Yes. Example : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR3f95BGIiA And people BELIEVE him. Some of these categories he talks about, experts have to study for years to know what they know. Yet people believe he knows more than dozens of experts in their own fields. He's just a conman.
The random/unsolicited advice. Especially from people who are doing financially worse then me.
one of my worst flaws is me giving unsolicited advice on many subjects (I'm a reasonably intelligent and knowledgeable person and happy to admit that I don't profess to know everything about everything)thankfully I'm aware of it and do my best to avoid it ...but guilty just the same
"Unsolicited advice is Criticism", I heard this and I've become more aware of my similar flaw. Now I ask if they want my opinion before starting to blabber. Also instead of saying "you need to do this" I try to say, "this is what I'd do".
Load More Replies...Just the other day during a video call, a potential customer (young guy) for my hairdressing salon wanted to explain to me how to change my technique after I told him how I work. Next day he sent me a message on how he was willing to help me make more money doing livestreams. Dude, I've been in the business as long as you are alive and probably making much more money than you do.
Incel behavior and the "alpha" mentality. Just a toxic mess of masculinity.
They don’t even realize that by doing creepy stuff like that, they’re showing that they’re less of a man than the nice guys. Real men back off and take no for an answer. Real men respect women. Real men learn to agree to disagree and don’t get in fights over stupid things. Be a real man
The men who think it's acceptable p**s all over the public toilet seat and leave it for the next guy
Anyone who calls themselves an “alpha”
The aggression. You can communicate with people without attacking them, and a person disagreeing with you doesn't have to be seen as an attack. You don't need to endlessly posture and watch your back for fear of looking weak or whatever. Honestly, all that posturing and defending makes a guy look way weaker than whatever he's afraid of. The other thing is that we're generally discouraged from talking about pretty much anything that stops us from being "useful". So we all bottle it up inside, and it tends to come out in unhealthy ways.
Always thinking they are right about everything- so boring. Learn to take an interest in someone other than yourself.
Bottling up emotions isn’t good for anyone. Mental health is important, and sharing your emotions shouldn’t make you weak
I hate that we assume other guys are just like us or know as much as we do.
Example, I have a 2020 Ford Ranger, I love that truck. But I'm not exactly a mechanic. I can change oil and a tire, that's about it. Here recently, for some reason, I've been approached by other random dudes asking me all sorts of engine questions and towing rates and capacities and all this other s**t. My dudes, I don't know. And don't look at me funny because I don't. The f****r has a bed so I can haul trash, enough seats for me to fit my family, and it's not terribly expensive. I cannot tell you the spark plug firing rate of my fourth cylinder's rotator cuff splint crank case pad. I'm sorry.
Nice job completely missing the point. Someone could say to the contrary "oh wah. Someone didn't wanna talk to you and hurt your feelings." No ones obligated to converse and you have no right to basically demand conversation
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THAT THEY DON'T WASH THEIR GOD DAMN HANDS. THEY'LL GO STRAIGHT FROM STALL OR URINAL AND OUT THE DOOR. Y'all, men are so so so gross, please don't touch 90% of their hands or anything they've touched. Foodborne illness would legit reduce by more than half, I'm convinced but have no hard data on this.
See also the knuckle crushing handshake some men do to prove their “dominance”. Used to have a sales rep who did this every time we met - until one day I was sick of this and got in first. Watching him sweat as I pumped his arm up and down while squeezing as tightly as I could, then releasing his hand and saying “It really f*****g hurts doesn’t it?” Stupid macho shite.
At my old job, the guys warned us about one of the managers who never washed his hands after using the restroom. Said when there's an office party, to make sure we get our food before he did.
Gross it may be, but you won't catch a food-born illness from someone who doesn't wash his hands after going for a pee.
You have to touch the stall door, flush handle and/or other surfaces while in the bathroom which are all teeming with different bacteria. Just because you’re unlikely to pick up bacteria from touching your own body doesn’t mean you’re not picking up bacteria from touching other surfaces. Wash your hands.
Load More Replies...Casual misogyny.
Insecurities. Insecurities, everywhere.
Not expressing their feelings or innermost thoughts. My first gf had to be extremely patient with me and in her own words "I had to work a little more than a year to get you to be even remotely comfortable with the idea of sharing your feelings."
It’s utterly exhausting as a woman and I won’t do it anymore - go see a therapist.
if they struggle to express due to trauma, but they're trying anyway, then i'm gonna be patient with them
On the whole? Not much. I guess generally speaking I find dudes harder to get along with. In a manner of speaking. We either click and can get along like the bestest of pals, or (for the majority) we don't click and never really get along... it's more like we tolerate each other because we have to. With gals it seems more like we can almost universally get along, but it's *far* less likely that we'll ever get close.
Another thing is that I'm the guy (54yo) who never felt like he fit in anywhere. I'd hunt with my dad, play GI Joes with my buddies, build forts behind our fence, sing Grease into a hairbrush in front of my mirror and play Barbie's with my cousin Shelly. My dad couldn't see that me playing with a GI Joe doll the same size as Barbie was the same thing as playing with a Barbie. When I came out in the early 90s, I thought I would find my tripe, but I didn't. I found the gay scene to basically be a gay Mean Girls. In my 50s, I've found my tribe, my husband and my chosen family. We support women, people of color, the LGBTQIA community and we don't tolerate a******s. Our close male friends are straight and they are such good men, they give me hope. Find your tribe and love them hard.
Perfect advice at the end! Finding ur people is such an important thing. It improves ur mental health so much
Load More Replies...Sexual predators and creeps CAN control themselves, they just WON'T. They feel entitled to do what they want, and since they clearly don't give a $hit about women's boundaries or consent, MEN need to be the ones policing each other.
Nowhere near a complete list of problems of men, or solutions. I'm a sensitive new age guy, usually, no interest in sport, one-upmanship, malicious gossip, sexist talk etc. But if I'm seriously sexually frustrated, or in serious pain, literally starving, or totally exhausted, I can get very very snarky.
I'm a masculine gay combat veteran. Not bragging as I was a bit of an effeminate teenager. I never changed who I was, but as I got older (in my 50s now) I became more masculine. I have zero interest in sports and toxic masculinity. I live in a pretty liberal and progressive area, but I'm often amazed at when some men find out I'm gay they think it's immediately okay to ask me about my sex life and if I've ever been with a woman. I've had men blatantly ask how I could like sucking d**k or getting f****d blah blah blah. When this happens it typically makes people around us uncomfortable so I will typically turn it back on them and ask, "Why are you so interested in if I like sucking d**k? You looking for a blowjob or advice on how to give one?" They usually back track and try to make jokes, and they usually exit the situation. I've never understood why straight men like to ask me about what I like sexually. Why do they care? One time I met two guys, best friends since childhood.
One of the guys was an Alpha Male. He started grilling me about what sex with a guy was like. So then I said, "You two are best friends, right? Since childhood. Have you ever seen each other naked?" The one dude got offended, but his best friend was snickering. Then I asked, "Did you guys ever mess around together as teenagers?" The guy was getting pissed. His friend was still smiling. "Then I turned to his best friend and asked, "Has he ever asked you about eating pussy or f*****g a woman?" His friend laughed and said, "No." Then I asked, "Have you ever had a threesome together?" His friend laughed and said, "No." Other guy was fuming. Then I turned to the other guy and said, "You've known this dude since childhood and never asked what he likes sexually, but you seem to think it's okay to meet me five minutes ago and ask what I like sexually? Either you're a closet case or an a*****e or both." Then I walked off. Dude stormed out of the bar. I got hammered with his best childhood friend and no we didn't hook up.
Load More Replies...The amount of times the words alpha, machismo, and assault were used in this thread truly made me sad. I know that there are truly kind-hearted, funny, intelligent, empathetic men out there who are working everyday to combat machismo and misyogynistic views against women. To all the men who stand up for women and for gender non-confirming people, thank you! For all the men who work to break stereo-types, thank you! For all the men who challenge the notion that men cannot show emotions, thank you. For all the men who also take on the role of child-rearing, thank you!
Speaking as a lesbian the worse thing about SOME (of course not all) men is the belief that somehow their shrimp dicked sexual prowess is going to turn a lesbian straight. It isn't. But the amount of times I've seen this kind of rhetoric is extremely disturbing. (I've also seen jokes about r*pe when it comes to this. as someone who actually was assaulted after I came out.. that s**t wouldn't be funny either way but it's especially unfunny to me)
I had a guy in martial arts who I thought was a friend get handsy with me during a class and try to solicit sex from me after he broke up with this girlfriend. I openly told them that I was struggling with my sexuality and that I had romantic feeling for both men and women (I currently identify as a biromantic asexual woman). He then continued saying that I should have sex with him to get over my "fear of sex" and maybe I just hadn't found the right man to be with. I wanted to scream and was so hurt afterward and felt scared and like something was wrong with me. I also had another man at a martial arts summer camp think that since I did not openly say I was queer that I was an object for conquest. I didn't even know this guy and he asked me to sleep with him and just assumed that I wanted to share a cabin with him and not the only other woman who happened to be a lesbian and who was sweet and kindhearted. Needless to say, I have not gone back into martial arts.
Load More Replies...This is why I barely leave home anymore except to go to work. This is why I'm suicidal. I just don't want to live in this world anymore. I'm completely fed up with everything and everyone. Seriously, I just can't take it anymore.
Noooo, hang in there. :-( It's true though that horrible people are everywhere and it's depressing. Sending hugs.
Load More Replies...This is quite interesting. Thanks for sharing to everyone in the comments too! As a woman, it helps me understand the dynamics of men. I've also learned I was seen as a "guy buddy" cause I was spoken to with similar vocabulary here, that I've never experienced before, so I thought he was upset/mad at me. Nope, just how guys communicate with guys ... which is a little sad. Hugs to all that feel like they need them!
Guys who think that once you're past a certain age, you're only allowed to be interested in "grown-up" things like beer, sports, and the pros and cons of different roofing materials. Dude, if you're into comic books or dinosaurs or My Little Pony or anything else, keep enjoying those things! The inability to discuss any topic other than the World Cup and how drunk you got last Friday is just boring.
Another thing is that I'm the guy (54yo) who never felt like he fit in anywhere. I'd hunt with my dad, play GI Joes with my buddies, build forts behind our fence, sing Grease into a hairbrush in front of my mirror and play Barbie's with my cousin Shelly. My dad couldn't see that me playing with a GI Joe doll the same size as Barbie was the same thing as playing with a Barbie. When I came out in the early 90s, I thought I would find my tripe, but I didn't. I found the gay scene to basically be a gay Mean Girls. In my 50s, I've found my tribe, my husband and my chosen family. We support women, people of color, the LGBTQIA community and we don't tolerate a******s. Our close male friends are straight and they are such good men, they give me hope. Find your tribe and love them hard.
Perfect advice at the end! Finding ur people is such an important thing. It improves ur mental health so much
Load More Replies...Sexual predators and creeps CAN control themselves, they just WON'T. They feel entitled to do what they want, and since they clearly don't give a $hit about women's boundaries or consent, MEN need to be the ones policing each other.
Nowhere near a complete list of problems of men, or solutions. I'm a sensitive new age guy, usually, no interest in sport, one-upmanship, malicious gossip, sexist talk etc. But if I'm seriously sexually frustrated, or in serious pain, literally starving, or totally exhausted, I can get very very snarky.
I'm a masculine gay combat veteran. Not bragging as I was a bit of an effeminate teenager. I never changed who I was, but as I got older (in my 50s now) I became more masculine. I have zero interest in sports and toxic masculinity. I live in a pretty liberal and progressive area, but I'm often amazed at when some men find out I'm gay they think it's immediately okay to ask me about my sex life and if I've ever been with a woman. I've had men blatantly ask how I could like sucking d**k or getting f****d blah blah blah. When this happens it typically makes people around us uncomfortable so I will typically turn it back on them and ask, "Why are you so interested in if I like sucking d**k? You looking for a blowjob or advice on how to give one?" They usually back track and try to make jokes, and they usually exit the situation. I've never understood why straight men like to ask me about what I like sexually. Why do they care? One time I met two guys, best friends since childhood.
One of the guys was an Alpha Male. He started grilling me about what sex with a guy was like. So then I said, "You two are best friends, right? Since childhood. Have you ever seen each other naked?" The one dude got offended, but his best friend was snickering. Then I asked, "Did you guys ever mess around together as teenagers?" The guy was getting pissed. His friend was still smiling. "Then I turned to his best friend and asked, "Has he ever asked you about eating pussy or f*****g a woman?" His friend laughed and said, "No." Then I asked, "Have you ever had a threesome together?" His friend laughed and said, "No." Other guy was fuming. Then I turned to the other guy and said, "You've known this dude since childhood and never asked what he likes sexually, but you seem to think it's okay to meet me five minutes ago and ask what I like sexually? Either you're a closet case or an a*****e or both." Then I walked off. Dude stormed out of the bar. I got hammered with his best childhood friend and no we didn't hook up.
Load More Replies...The amount of times the words alpha, machismo, and assault were used in this thread truly made me sad. I know that there are truly kind-hearted, funny, intelligent, empathetic men out there who are working everyday to combat machismo and misyogynistic views against women. To all the men who stand up for women and for gender non-confirming people, thank you! For all the men who work to break stereo-types, thank you! For all the men who challenge the notion that men cannot show emotions, thank you. For all the men who also take on the role of child-rearing, thank you!
Speaking as a lesbian the worse thing about SOME (of course not all) men is the belief that somehow their shrimp dicked sexual prowess is going to turn a lesbian straight. It isn't. But the amount of times I've seen this kind of rhetoric is extremely disturbing. (I've also seen jokes about r*pe when it comes to this. as someone who actually was assaulted after I came out.. that s**t wouldn't be funny either way but it's especially unfunny to me)
I had a guy in martial arts who I thought was a friend get handsy with me during a class and try to solicit sex from me after he broke up with this girlfriend. I openly told them that I was struggling with my sexuality and that I had romantic feeling for both men and women (I currently identify as a biromantic asexual woman). He then continued saying that I should have sex with him to get over my "fear of sex" and maybe I just hadn't found the right man to be with. I wanted to scream and was so hurt afterward and felt scared and like something was wrong with me. I also had another man at a martial arts summer camp think that since I did not openly say I was queer that I was an object for conquest. I didn't even know this guy and he asked me to sleep with him and just assumed that I wanted to share a cabin with him and not the only other woman who happened to be a lesbian and who was sweet and kindhearted. Needless to say, I have not gone back into martial arts.
Load More Replies...This is why I barely leave home anymore except to go to work. This is why I'm suicidal. I just don't want to live in this world anymore. I'm completely fed up with everything and everyone. Seriously, I just can't take it anymore.
Noooo, hang in there. :-( It's true though that horrible people are everywhere and it's depressing. Sending hugs.
Load More Replies...This is quite interesting. Thanks for sharing to everyone in the comments too! As a woman, it helps me understand the dynamics of men. I've also learned I was seen as a "guy buddy" cause I was spoken to with similar vocabulary here, that I've never experienced before, so I thought he was upset/mad at me. Nope, just how guys communicate with guys ... which is a little sad. Hugs to all that feel like they need them!
Guys who think that once you're past a certain age, you're only allowed to be interested in "grown-up" things like beer, sports, and the pros and cons of different roofing materials. Dude, if you're into comic books or dinosaurs or My Little Pony or anything else, keep enjoying those things! The inability to discuss any topic other than the World Cup and how drunk you got last Friday is just boring.
