“I don’t care what we eat for dinner, you can decide!” This dreaded sentence seems innocent at first glance, but all too often escalates into an argument between partners or leaves one pouting and deciding not to eat at all. Why is it so hard to just ask for what we want?
Recently, men on Reddit have been pointing out bad habits they’ve noticed some women have, and being indirect is among them. Below, you’ll find a list of other behaviors that frustrate men, so whether you’re a man or a woman, enjoy reading through and be sure to upvote the habits you can’t stand either.
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Believing that men can read minds.
"If you really loved me, you'd know what I want without asking." HOW? Being in love doesn't grant you ESP. Stop playing stupid games and tell him what you want!
It's funny that the responses here on a thread about double standards between men and women have demonstrated yet ANOTHER such double standard. There are men on here (like me) clearly saying: "We can't read your mind, or "tune-in" to your nuances; JUST TELL US WHAT YOU WANT!" But rather than listening and believing that we men know ourselves better than the women around us; we have women responding with all the reasons that their behavior is reasonable. We have some who are delving into pseudo-psychology talking about socialization and gender dynamics, while affirming the myth that not knowing somehow indicates that you don't truly care. HOWEVER, if the situation were reversed, and women were here stating very clearly that something men do, or expect, is unreasonable; men who defended or rationalized the behavior would be excoriated and labeled as misogynists and Neanderthals. Can you just take at face value that we're telling you we can't always anticipate your needs or desires?
Load More Replies...These posts are always non-nuanced, which I always find so frustrating. Women often are able to anticipate needs because of some very complex socialization and power dynamics. As a result of these, we teach women to read body language and anticipate needs in order to remain safe in our society. Men, by the way, are perfectly capable of anticipating needs they just haven't been expected to so haven't spent years perfecting that skill. The key is knowing your partner well enough to be able to make an educated guess and then asking if your guess is indeed correct before actions (ie I know you like hugs when your sad, (after noticing partner is sad) do you want to cuddle?)
Little bunny FuFu, you couldn’t have put it in better words! ❤️👍🏻❤️
Load More Replies...Thank you to all the dudes who have shown the other side of the coin. I appreciate it.
Thank you!, Mona! So many fantastic men on earth, none of them appreciated., sadly.
Load More Replies...Yeah,a fger 30 years, it's horrible of me to think my hubby might realize what my "I had a bad day" face looks like. /s/
After being married 33 years and spending every day with me...if he can't figure out a few things I'd like for a holiday then I don't know what to say. We make lists but I also like to think about someone spending time thinking of something to get for me. I don't want to give you a list of things. I'll just go get it myself or not because I'd then spend theiney on something for the house. It's not expecting them to read minds it's them being present when we are spending time together. Remembering I said that I could use a new this or that or I have wanted this but haven't wanted to spend the money.
To b fair, with my main 2 relationships, I tried SO MANY ways to b heard. From flat out stating "this is the problem" and when that didn't work, I tried hints, and passive aggressive, back to plain language stating the problems. Nothing works because they didn't want to listen. Even with all the complaints and stories about how women share all the same frustrations about the division of work between kids and cooking and house and working, nothing changes. So what do we do next? It's not until we leave that men r finally willing to listen and by then it's too late. So they usually go and do the same things with the next. It's rare to find one that's changed
My boyfriend and I give each other X-chromosome points when one of us does this.
I've always experienced the opposite - men who think I can read their minds.
I can't read her mind but somehow I always get it right! *Wife walks in and just stares at me* "OH I KNOW! I forgot to take the chicken out of the freezer! :,D"
Acting like a b***h isn't a cute quirky personality trait.
So true… Despite what you see on TV or in the movies, bitchiness is never cute
Even worse, purposely speaking in a child/baby voice because they think they sound cute. They just sound desperate & childish. Why do women do that?!!
Women picked up this idea from 2 female "icons" : Marilyn Monroe and Jackie Kennedy. They developed breathy, soft, "little girl" voices that were considered sexy (Monroe) or sweet (Kennedy) .
Load More Replies...Sometimes women confuse "b***h" with "boss girl" . There is a HUGE difference!
Or using "I'm just honest and people don't like it" as a cover/excuse for acting this way, also
Someone once explained to me what a "Brat" is in this context. Sounded like absolute human trash of a girlfriend to me. Be nice to each other, and if you have a good match, you'll receive back the love you've given
Zedrapazia, I don’t know why you got downvoted. Fixed it for you. You have a good point! 👍🏻
Load More Replies...yeah, I don't agree with those type of women at all. it's not that hard just to be nice. I mean yes most women do get moody. but it's not nice to take it out on other people. I learned that a long time ago.
Not respecting privacy or any privileged information.
Anything you tell her, or show her, you are *also* telling her friends.
But turn around and do the same thing to your friends? That's a breach of trust.
Safest bet with all humans is communicate what you want. If you want to keep it private tell the person to not share please etc., If they do, then you know from there on in and it's their bad. If you don't give them a heads up, how will they know its confidential?
Exactly. I need a thoughts filter sometimes. Though I can see how it can be bad with sensitive information and relationships and things. 🤷🏾♀️
Load More Replies...I always toss out fake info, to see what people do with it. Has saved me a few times
The only thing I've found that has been leaked to her friends are the "magical" things that happen in the bedroom *epic facepalm*
Willingly give criticism but not being able to take it
I'm a guy. I struggle to take criticism, but I also absolutely refuse to give criticism. I believe that's a more just thing to do than being all give and no take.
I am a very sarcastic person irl... ill make a joke every chance i get! One problem is meh voice, as it is deeper i found out its harder for people to tell im making a joke and am not trying to be mean so i speak high pitched (not birdy tweets high) so people know... i cant read minds so idk how people take my jokes but i want people to know id never try to hurt you on purpose and if something i said hurt you pls tell me cause i will apologize 100 times over :]
Load More Replies...This is just a human thing. Both men and women have defense mechanisms to protect them and it takes a LOT of vulnerability to be able to take criticism in in healthy ways.
I believe (and Pandas will correct me if I’m wrong) that the word “criticism” comes from the word “critique”, as does “ critic”. That is to give an evaluation. It’s not go for your throat, it’s not yell at you, it’s not cut you into little pieces. It’s stating an evaluated opinion about something. It’s called sit down and talk. Sit down and listen. Not something people do these days. If maybe at beginning of relationship or very early on, making clear that’s how you prefer to do things. My dear friend has a strict rule in her home. No one ever yells. Stated clearly to her then boyfriend (now husband) and her son knew it too. They just don’t yell. It’s not ok from anyone. And if you hand out “criticism” you better darned well be able to take it too or STHU.
I like your focus on constructive criticism. Wikipedia has an article, "Varieties of criticism". and lists 22 types with a brief description of each. That's what I very much enjoy about Bored Panda. It provides focus to my ADD. Thanks!
Load More Replies...I feel like this is common for most people, men and women. If I suggest to my husband a more logical way of hanging a towel (so that it actually dries), he gets defensive and feels like he’s being beaten down and can’t do anything right. Then he refuses to do whatever I “corrected” him on again because he “can’t do it right”. The guy hasn’t done a single chore in 10 years.
Sweet! What’s yours? 😉 J/K I don’t want to know - I just love your comment: absolutely straight forward! 👍🏻
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Most of the women in my life have simply never said they were sorry about anything. If they say something mean to me, and I get any type of emotion over it, they immediately get defensive and tell me I'm being too sensitive. Then flip it around on me, and I'm the bad guy.
Im sry your life is surrounded by such toxicity heres a donut🍩 and a hug!!
Load More Replies...This is gaslighting, twisting everything around so you're the bad guy and they're the victim in order to avoid taking any responsibility for their behaviour. Its manipulative, shows a lack of basic empathy and is a hallmark of a narcissist. People like this don't change.
This reminds me of how if I was mad about something, she would get twice as mad back at me. I could never be upset about anything.
Load More Replies...So, you hang out with immature idiots. My dad was like this. So is my bro-in-law. It's always the other person who's wrong, never them. It's a human thing, not a egndered thing.
Yup, this describes my mother, my FIL, my sister and my ex-husband equally well. Some people just never learn to apologize regardless of gender
Load More Replies...For me it's the other way around, whenever I try to explain my side of events after hearing them explain theirs, they somehow interpret it as "oh so it's my fault?!?" and I'm like no Bryan I just told you I understood your point and now I'd just like you to understand mine so we can come to some form of agreement or compromise.
I've had both at the same time actually, she matches 90% of all of these
Load More Replies...Yup, make a complaint, criticism, voice displeasure at anything at all? Excuse it, justify it and then try to redirect to anything and everything not having to do with them. Something that's been consistently, calmly and explicitly expressed to her over years? Well it's because you don't do this, or you do that. Men are always a work in progress women think themselves perfection.
Leaving hair stuck to the shower wall, lol. Ugh.
This! And sometimes I too forget to clean the wall off afterwards.
Load More Replies...I used to use to make little pictures of horses to leave for my poor dad. Haha
Oh men...u do NOT want us women to get started on gross "bodily" habits. TRUST ME on this! I get it's gross, but it's still a fraction of mens grossness we have to deal with, since we tend to still get stuck with the majority of housework/laundry
The first time I realized this was a thing was right here on BP. I have long hair and it never occured to me to *not* clean my hair out of the shower. Clean your damn hair out of the shower, people!
Same here. I've always tried to remember to clean mine up. I'm a housecleaner tho, and I can confirm there r MANY women that DON'T even consider doing this
Load More Replies...Nope. Rinse it off with the shower head. Squeegee the walls dry. Clean hair out of drain screen. I don't want to see hair stuck to the shower wall either. It's gross. (So is razor stubble all over the sink.)
Who does this!. It never even occurred to me to. Of course, my mom or my barracks mates would have had something to say...
Not sure about shower walls, but plughole grates? Yes. Every time. I have long hair too, but I clean it out every single time I use it.
Me too. I find it oddly satsfying to empty the little hair trap I got for the drain.
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Everything my wife does is a gift from heaven. Everything I do is expected, and still not enough.
And I'm guessing you're full of gratitude for the odd crumb she tosses your way. She's got you right where she wants you. You're making all the effort in the relationship and she's making just enough to keep you on the hook so you'll always be there if/when she wants to use you.
Hear me out, because this is going to sound crazy, but have you considered actually communicating with each other?
Y'all need therapy.... all my hubby does is work and play drums.... And I thank him for that frequently!!!! I couldn't sit on BP if he didn't 😂 he also expresses appreciation for the state of the house/yard/dogs/dinner that I've done
yeah, I don't agree with those type of women. I don't think you should use people.
She is a princess. He is merely a soil for her and her child. Don't like it? Ew incel incel inceeeel
They don't seem to credit 'men's work' as labor or something worth of gratitude. Like spending my day off getting her oil changed and tires rotated, all the maintenance and repairs inside and outside the house. It seems all the old 'women's work' needs to be split 50-50 now that they are working but if I spend 45 minutes shoveling the driveway there isn't any reduced duty for dishes or laundry, despite the machines doing most the work.
I've gotten tired of the massive disparity in gifts too.
I wake up and spend 20 minutes, everyday making my wife turkish coffee, make breakfast if she's in the mood, feed our cats, the army of neighbors hood strays, do the laundry, hang it outside to dry, collect and put it away which is mainly hers due to her 3 outfit changes a day, spend 10 /12/14 hours working that day, WALK to the store to buy food for dinner, which i prepare for her and i, AND her mother and sister, then do the dishes and put away leftovers, before hauling 80 pounds of trash a block to the dumpster on my way to run errands for my mother....and when i get home to find she's brought another day to a close with her unorganized disaster area spread all over the floor, obstructing access to everything "she's just soo exhausted. Why don't i ever do anything to help her?" Somehow i manage to keep my stuff organized, out of the way and i'm the a*****e for not wanting to have to wade through her mess to get at it.
It sounds like you need to have an open and honest conversastion about the devision of labour but one that also takes all forms of labour into account (are there kids?) as well as your respective mental health states. If you cannot find a solution that works for your both then there will be a reason. If that reason is not something that can be fixed, then go your separate ways in peace
Load More Replies...There shouldn't be 'Mens work' or women's work' there is just work and tasks that need to be done. Split it along the lines of who is good at what. Women have been battling this exact thing for centuries. Its like asking a co-worker if she had a nice holiday when she comes back from Maternity leave
I would recommend taking another look at what kind of work your partner is doing. "Machines do all the work anyway" is nonsense. Yes, they make a lot of things easier. But the laundry doesn't sort itself, doesn't jump into the washing machine, doesn't hang itself to dry (you just can't put everything in the dryer) and doesn't put itself away. The cooker, surprisingly, doesn't cook food by itself either. Dishes from the dishwasher also often need to be re-dried and put away. Some dishes even break in the dishwasher, such as sharp knives, aluminium dishes and things made of wood. Dust does not go away on its own, and bed linen is usually washed weekly. Floors have to be mopped and the bathroom cleaned. Food has to be bought and cooked. These are really a lot of thankless tasks, because you notice when it's not done, but hardly anyone notices when it is. Quite the opposite of repairs. Maybe it's just time to be grateful to each other.
This all sounds like things both genders can equally do. I don't see a reason why traditional "men" jobs should be looked at differently from traditional "women" jobs at the house. Both are equal, the amount that one person has to do differs and has to be adjusted to be fair for both parties
Load More Replies...What's "men's work"? What's "women's work"? It's just sh*t that has to be done.
Maybe - I think the issue is that you don't change the oil daily or even weekly, same with shoveling the drive whereas housework is a constant, monotonous drudge. Be interested to know who carries the mental load though.
I think you first need to take the whole situation under evaluation. How much work does she put in every day compared to sporadic days of work with the car? I used to believe this as well and took on almost all of indoors chores in exchange for car and yard work. Then I started look at how many hours was used on the two areas. I did 1-2 hours of chores every day and when the time spent on car or even more rarely, yard, was calculated it wasnt even equal to 15 minutes a day.
This!! This sort of behaviour is turning some guys into incels. Ladies y’all need to open your eyes; each others time has value, you are not more precious, why do some girls put themselves on a pink pedestal while berating all men?… 😵💫 (coming from a wife who mows the lawn lol)
If I may ask, why don't you teach your woman to do it herself? If she wants to be treated equal that should not be an issue I would say. Living together, sharing equipment together means doing both the work I would say. The only reason I do some "women's work" chores more than my boyfriend is because I am neurotic in stuff but I that is the result my own behaviour. I try to let my neurotic habits loose a bit and let him do it in his way...It's difficult for me (I'm on the spectrum, not an excuse but doesn't make it easier) after doing it my way for 14 years but healthier for the relationship if both parties feel most comfortable in their chores and for us that means 50-50 for everything.
Being too indirect in communication and passive in relationships.
I come from a home environment where if you spoke up, you became a target. If you make her feel secure and safe, she will open up to you.
Load More Replies...Last time I was direct and assertive with a man in a relationship he punched me in the face and tried to strangle me unconscious. Women are often passive because we have been conditioned to be by the behaviour of men.
The father figures in my life. I’ve never gotten in trouble or hurt keeping information to myself.
Load More Replies...and yet when we aren't passive we are told we are aggressive and too independent, Cant win with some people
Taking relationship advice from unhappy or chronically single women.
Counterpoint: maybe chronically single women have really good boundaries and don't settle. I'd take their advice any day.
Same as non-parents can give a different POV to parents. Just b/c they're not "in the game" doesn't mean they can't see something differently and offer an opinion.
Load More Replies...The only one of my 2 friends that dates has some issues with setting boundaries and apologising in situations where it's not her fault so you bet your a*s I'll be there to give her advice
Sorry...?! chronically single women are usually single for very good reasons. Totally agree if they manbash every conversation, but if they can be objective and see things clearly, advise away. My neices and nephews often ask for advice, one even took notice if I didn't like someone they were dating because I could see the 'red flags'...not all c/single women give bad, or one sided, advice
I don't take relationship advice from friends... and I don't air my grievances with them either. If I'm upset at my husband, I feel like I would only talk about my side of the issue, and that's not fair at all, especially when the "advice" I would get in this scenario, would be completely based on my friend only hearing my side. My husband should be the only one I talk to about any issues we may have. Just my opinion, so don't come for me!
Being in your 50s and dating and they are getting advice from their 25 year old daughters.
Workplace bullying. Most bullies I've come across have been women who think they're justified simply because they dislike someone. Social exclusion, passive aggression, reputational destruction, pettiness, and so on. One of the worst examples I've seen was against a young woman who was shy and had a body most women would [die] for (this is relevant). Within the first week, half of the women in the office were gossiping about how the new girl was "weird" and "rude" because she was shy and focused on her work. Then they started mocking her for "showing off her tits and a**e" which translates as she dared to have a great body and wear clothes that fit her. She was seen being friendly with a male colleague who was everybody's friend, so that instantly meant she was a manipulative flirt. "She knows exactly what she's doing." She was let go at the end of her probation because too many people said she was difficult to work with and she didn't fit in. I'm certain she would've been fine if she was less attractive.
I am the manager of a almost complete female team, 23 women and only two men..... I had some terrible issues this kind of sort in the beginning
My friend worked in a hospital as an RN he said the majority of his coworkers were women and they were the meanest people he ever worked with. So rude and conniving that if there wasn't a staff shortage most of them wouldn't have jobs.
Load More Replies...In my 24 year career, every workplace bully I ever observed was female. The men did not behave that way.
That had never occurred to me before, but you're right. Verbal bullying by women is more common than by men.
I work in a office setting with 2 other men and 3 women. We are all in forties or early fifties. All the women that work with me at one point in their lives worked in all female work enviroment. All 3 of them says it was a nightmare. There is never such hostility in all male/mixed goups as there is in female-only work groups.
Men are the pettiest b****es around 🤣 get out of your delusion that "there is no hostility in all male/mixed groups". You also don't know women who work in male dominated fields who constantly express how awful it is
Load More Replies...That's why I try not to listen to gossip. Just because someone one thinks or says something doesn't mean it's true..! Had a former collegue telling me someone was a sociopath, I listened an nodded not to be rude, but put it somewhere. But also judging the collegue for just blurring it out without asking for opinion..
I've worked with animals in way ir another most of my life. Very female heavy work places. The back stabbing, cliques, bullying and absolute lack of team work is just overwhelming. The only time there was "teamwork" was if there was one person everyone disliked. Was like high school non stop. If you work with women and don't see this, you're a guy or the one they don't like.
Had this happen to me - mean girls never die. It's why most of my friends in life have been guys
Yeah, I don't have a lot of tolerance for women like that. But to b fair, there r a lot of men like that too. They just do it "differently". Sh*tty people in general s*ck
I definitely think women can make a very toxic workplace. We should be helping raise each other up, but there can be a lot of backstabbing and passive-aggressive behaviour. At least if a guy doesn't like you he'll communicate that to you, you know what you're dealing with.
I worked in quite a few places, and my impression is that if there is a group of women it becomes a hyena pit (I like hyenas, don't get me wrong). I'm always on good terms with everybody and people like to talk with me for some reason, and it's always the women that bad mouth other women behind their back while pretending to be best friends around them. The 2 most toxic environments I worked in were companies with a woman in charge, it seemed like every other woman was in competition to the others to get to the top. (Personal impression, may not apply to every company)
I've never had a girlfriend admit they were wrong. And it's the exact thing they have said about men for decades.
If a man makes a statement in the forest, and there is no woman there to hear him. Is he still wrong???
And if you point out they lied about something it's "How dare you throw it back in my face".
I found with last relationships girls say they were always in a relationship or two where they thought if they slept with the guy the guy would love them more. Don't do that. If you think a guy will like or love you more if you sleep with him he's not into you and only wants to sleep with you. Once he gets what he wants he's gone. He might stay for a few more screws but he will ultimately leave. Some women also think if I just do more for him and love him more he will change. Nope again. You shouldn't have to do that.
And yet again communication is key - it's always better to clear up the goals and conditions of a relationship beforehand instead of faking feelings to get what either partner really wants. If the feelings change, let's say love finds it's way into a romantic partnership, renegociate said partnership to get a common base to build upon. (Really helped my ex GF and me to still be best friends)
I think this is an over-generalization of men. OP, your “picker” might just be broken.
I've been married for 23 years and TRUST me there's a whole lot more to it than that..
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1. Imbalance of homework because “Mens work” still exists and “women’s work” is sexist. I do all serious DIY and repair jobs, I build things that need to be built for the home, I do dirty work like cleaning the tons of hair out the shower (99% not mine) I arrange and manage tradesmen in the home, and I still feel like I do the dishes and clean more.
2. Indecisiveness
3. Her being upset = my problem, me being upset = my problem, that in turn causes her to be upset which is then also my problem. Basically I’m not allowed to be upset or angry, it’s not valid, and I need to fix myself.
I love my partner immensely but these three things get to me, I’ve communicated all of them and we make progress. I’m certainly not perfect either! I do feel like these are partly cultural not personal problems to solve though.
There's a good point here. Culture. For too long sexism has made women out to be the weaker sex. The result of that is that actions taken by women are seen as being either inconsequential or less so than mens' actions. This has to change..
Well, women and men fought for generations for gender equality so now women can also take responsibility. They fought so I could go to university. They fought so I can have a bank account, work 40 hours a week, have a decent payment. I bought my own house, and I bought a course on how to work with an impact drill (I hope this is the correct translation) so I do my own DIY work. And of course this is not an option for everyone, I am super privileged for my situation. But I use my privilege to take responsibility to fix stuff myself. It's too easy to only stay in a victim role. If you want this to change you can also take action and not only notify the inequality.
Load More Replies...1. Show her how to do DIY. I live on a farm and have taught the wife how to use all of my tools, and we do maintenance tasks together, sometimes with her doing the the bulk of the chopping/sawing/hammering/etc. NGL, is does take longer, but we are doing it together and after we're done, she can look at it and say 'We did that!' with pride. 2. Often this is either a confidence issue, or because they are more concerned with your happiness than their own. 3. Your partner is a cow. I might not care about my wife's problems per se, but I care about my wife, so no matter how big or small the problem, I will do everything within my power help her. When I have a problem, my wife searches for solutions harder than I do.
Best relationship advice I've ever heard. All relationships are 2 cultures coming together, 2 traditions, 2 habits and 2 expectations. If you can't talk about all those different things, are you in the right relationship
There are "men's" jobs that need doing once in a while as well as "women's jobs" that need doing once in a while but everyday chores SHOULD be split evenly if both are working full-time. He organizes the tradesmen but who organizes the holidays, buys gifts and cards. He cleans hair out of the drain but who scrubs the showers and the toilets etc....maybe he does but it's something to think about. I think a lot of gender specific jobs are invisible to the opposite sex sometimes.
Statistically, men who suffer from point 1 are in the minority, but yeah, it's definitely a thing
Well, I feel this but it's because I'm in the man's situation here. I have a house husband. I work full time at an industrial job but still have to make dinner every day and do all the household repairs and machine upkeep. In return, he does basic maintenance chores, putters in the garden, and walks the dog. This isn't fair no matter which gender is doing the "mens" share.
If she finds it so annoying to remind him about if she can also do it herself. She says that the amount of this "men" work is not enough to divide so it would not take her that much time than right.
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Testing. Asking or doing something just to see what choice I make. < my fiance answered. Both of his ex girlfriends did that ALOT. He told me about it before we dated so I've always tried to not ever do that.
I've never done that to my guy, seems like unnecessary cruel b******t to me, and a waste of time. If I want a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical scenario, I'll ask a hypothetical question - he'll answer that just as well and it's fun to think about What If scenarios together
And there’s no “correct” response to the test. If you ever hear the question “does this make me look fat”, don’t say anything and just walk out of the room.
As a jokester if i ever ask if something makes me look fat (as if id ever ask that)... i dont expect a serious answer as ill just chuckle and say ty either way... if someone ever asked that question (bff for ex) id answer indirectly saying they look beautiful... if some stranger asked, id walk away immediatly as im not digging that hole
Load More Replies...Testing, or giving little trials to partners so they can gauge their response. Something like saying "I'm not hungry" or "I'm braking up with you" and see if their response is good for them, such as passionately declaring his love or knowing her favourite fine dining space.
Load More Replies..."If I was an earthworm would you still love me?" lol woman what kinda stupid question is that???
Or asking for an opinion and then arguing with u about it. Or asking for help/advice and then doing the opposite or dismissing outright
Not being able to accept the truth about how men feel.
I cannot open up to someone who, upon hearing how something honestly makes me feel, is going to scream at me or hit me for it.
Don't be with someone like this. It's depressing how many people will put up with all manner of s**t just for the sake of having a relationship.
I can't upvote this enough. Don't tolerate abuse!
Load More Replies...Dude, that is an abusive relationship and you need to cut them off ASAP
Wauw. You should never be treated by your partner like that. You deserve better. Everyone has his flaws but this sounds like abuse.
I’m so sorry to hear that you went through that. Please know that not all men are like that.
Aligning the truth to their emotions. They will reject facts as the truth because it doesn't match their feelings, which is "their truth"
Basically as their feelings change. The truth changes.
And the old gem that they're just being honest about their feelings, while yours are selfish and manipulative.
But never forget that you can build a reality on feelings. Once you start acting on feelings, they become part of reality and can't be removed from it.
Nope nope nope nope nope the truth is the truth is the truth all day and I'm saying this as a woman LMFAO this whole personal truth movement is really annoying though
Siding with other women by default whenever there's a dispute between a man and a woman. I honestly just don't get it and I've stopped trying to understand why. It could be social and it could be biological for all I know. But women have this incredible tendency to just herd towards other women and become world champion contortionists with how far they bend over backwards to excuse s****y behavior in other women. * When I was 19, I had my first date set up. It was a woman in my class, a simple coffee. I got stood up completely. Waited in front of the shop like an idiot for an hour. I got home and opened up to my sister about it, who told me "Well she doesn't owe you anything." Like, what? We agreed to be there. When I told her as much "Well maybe she was afraid to say 'No' to you." Later that week at our next class I asked if something had happened, to which she responded "I was sooo tired!" When I told my sister? "See? There's your answer." * A long while back there was a post on the OKCupid subreddit about a woman saying a guy, at the start of their date, simply said to her "I'm sorry but you look very different from her picture." Women jumped in to call him an a*****e, a s**thead, and so on. He actually showed up to try and explain himself, but they then jumped down his throat. Only when he showed receipts about her admitting the picture on her profile was four years and 75 pounds ago did he *finally* get a few women begrudgingly agreeing with him that maybe she should have used a more recent picture. * When I was 24, I met my at-the-time girlfriend's group of friends. After they grilled me on a bunch of stuff, one of them started talking about how her boyfriend dumped her because she was seeing another guy on the side. Everyone in the group jumped to her defense with "Well I don't see a ring on your finger!" and "Didn't he only see you like twice a month?" Like, cheating on somebody is indisputably s****y behavior, but there they sat for the next 30 minutes coming up with every excuse in the book. Like, even on advice communities like AITA, people have swapped the gender on identical stories multiple times, finding that people (especially women) are much easier on women for the same behavior. Men do it too, but women's in-group biases have been measured to be four times stronger than men's. Simply, women will overwhelmingly stand behind a s****y woman. It drives me nuts because once you realize it, you can see it everywhere.
I can already see this happening in the comment sections of the posts on this very article. Male perspective explains an issue they had with a woman, comment section tries to relativate immediately why the woman still wasn't an a-sshole. The male version of this article we had last week didn't have that, I just wonder why
Some pychologists (I'm not saying I agree, but there is some research) have noted that men tend to be poled for competition when they gather whereas women tend towards networking. The theory is that it has to do with survival patterns that required caregivers to form groups and mating patterns that push for the strongest male to breed. We've haven't managed to weed out these patterns socially yet. I'm never a fan of an oversimplistic evolutionary model, but it might be a residule factor amongst many. We certainly are socialised this way with boys being pushed to compete with each other (sports etc) vs girls being expected to be peace makers and play nicely. Personally, I suspect that it has more to do with us all having so many aweful experiences that we feel the need to stick together
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Have people forgotten that men collectively spent thousands of years disputing women against each other??? Maybe it's realisation that we been pitted against each other for no reason.
I have seen this happen on BP many times. For example: Bride right before wedding discovered having an affair. But it's okay because she is not married yet and the groom needs to forgive her. But if the groom is discovered having an affair before the wedding he should have his nether regions dissected.
Exactly. Honestly because a lot of the time the girls are the vulnerable ones, I will take their side for protection sake until convinced otherwise. If a girl doesn't show up for a date, I wouldn't immediately call her out...what if she felt unsafe and decided not to go through with it? Of course communication is necessary, but women make a lot of decisions for safety that men don't always understand.
i'm a woman and I agree this is a huge problem! what is more is some women expect other women to agree with them when they b***h about someone automatically. I hate it. This woman (32) who was friends with my friends, told everyone i was a terrible person because when she said a mutual friend was acting like an a*****e that evening, and she described it was because of his weird demeanor, and she asked me if i noticed i said: "oh i didn't notice anything but you know him better than I do". For this i was branded "not a girl's girl" and a b***h.
A more famous case would be the Amber Heard / Johnny Depp case, there are still women that fully support her and scream misogyny at anybody pointing out her actions
I don’t know if a lot of women have this habit, but I know a few cases, the weaponization of sex. Some of my buddies wives or girlfriends will use sex as a weapon in order to coerce certain behaviour.
That's mostly something in the older generations from what I see, and it's really weird. The whole thing should be passion, not obligation and force
In older generations, women had much fewer opportunities for work/success, less control over money, and much less power. The stay-at-home "little woman"' 's use of sex as a tool was a sad strategy......often the only tool available. (I'm not justifying it).
Load More Replies...I see the opposite. Men being kind and sweet because they want sex. Oh I did the laundry and dishes...should get some tonight.
Lots and lots of men withhold emotional affection when they don't get physical affection, which is just as coercive. But a lot of women need emotional affection to want to get physical.
Doesn't work on me. Don't put out? Fine. I got two hands and infinite internet porn. Do your worst.
Yeah I never got this one. It'd be pretty easy to just not play along.
Load More Replies...My husband is a wonderful lover so I would never deny sex. That would be a punishment for me, too.
Can someone explain to me how this actually works I enjoy engaging with my husband and to cut him off would be to cut me off too and I'm very confused why people would want to do this
Painful to read. This is very wrong. Women can metoo but should also not behave in this way.
Weaponizing breakup, well maybe not all women.
But when a girl does that to me even if she doesn't mean it, I take it very seriously. U want to give up on the relationship just like that? Fine.
Don't use or threaten with the word breakup if you don't mean it, for both ways. Breakup should be the last resort if anything.
They only work if the outcome seems to be a bad option
Load More Replies...Breakup weapon is like an atomic bomb: you use it just once. And after that, there's nothing left.
Double standards. How something can be okay for them to do but is a deal breaker if the guy does it.
That's the ultimate excuse of a scoundrel. Female OR male.
Load More Replies...THIS!!! It's perfectly OK for her to drool over the latest TV or movie hunk (Pick your favorite Hemsworth brother, Michael B. Jordan, Shemar Moore, etc), but if she catches me looking twice at Vanessa Williams, Halle Berry, or Catherine Zeta Jones, I'm in the doghouse for the next two days.
I’ve always said that if you think you’re in love, unlock your phone and pass it to your partner and have them do the same. Then you’ll both know…
My last ex broke up with me cause I went to the ladies room. Like she can do it and i can't? So unfair!
Expect the man to respect her boundaries and provide her with all her needs (emotional, physical, etc.) but absolutely refuse to reciprocate. THEN overreact and turn everything around on the man when he calls her out on her s**t or asks her to meet his needs or respect his boundaries. F*****g every relationship I've ever had. I'm not bitter....
I can understand the exasperation. Especially when there’s emasculation going on with it. Men need to be treated with kindness and respect just as well as women. But when the man is the one, finding himself, abused, society discourages him from speaking up.
If it's EVERY relationship you've ever had, I wonder what the common denominator is.
Idk why people downvoted you. This is a valid question
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Giving unsolicited advice to their husband. For example giving unsolicited tree trimming advice to your husband this past weekend while standing out on the deck (that your husband built). This is just an example of course.
Unless the wife went to school for that *polishes frame holding horticulture degree* lol
How about the unsolicited "help" No matter how many times you say you don't need it, don't want, and their inability to accept this actively makes you upset, they continue to act as if they're doing something FOR YOU.
I tell my wife you can tell me what to do or how to do it. Not both. If things get messed up, sure you can put in your advice but until then, please let me work.
Load More Replies...I hate it when anyone tells me how to do something when I already know how to do it. Man, woman, enby, doesn't matter. Ask before you give advice.
Yeah, it gets tiresome at times. My dad likes to do this. When I've had enough, I tell him that "This is a one person horse, and Im the one riding it, so quit trying to steer from the side."
Load More Replies...I got to the point where I don't put up with this from anyone. Either get in the arena, or shut up. I straight up handed a jack handle to a friend of mine and walked right the hell away (guy or girl? doesn't matter) who wouldn't stop telling me how to jack up their car to fix their flat tire. If you can do it, do it. If you can't, shut up and appreciate the person who can.
I did this yesterday while my husband was trimming the hedges 🫠 I had a different vision but he had a plan. I realized I needed to shut up, stop watching, get busy doing something & be grateful be was helping maintain the property w/ me (which I love doing together). The hedges came out just fine & I thanked my husband multiple times for all his hard work. *Fast forward to today: I told him about this article & this post & apologized for my micromanaging 🫠❤️
Lack of accountability Blame men when no men are involved Believe emotions to be more important than factual events
No this pisses me off. The fact that men actually truly believe that they do things with logic more than emotion is simply untrue. And there is not nearly enough space here on BP for me to give all of the many examples that clearly demonstrate men are just as, if not more so emotional than women are. And if you get angry at this without even looking into it, then my point is further proven. There is a reason that the majority of Darwin Award winners are male.
Not gonna lie, I'm ruled by my emotions and my wife is the logical one. Doesn't mean we can't use our weaker side sometimes though.
Load More Replies...Unbiased facts is always good, but then there's opinions that differ in the end. Regardless of gender, just see a debate program. To radical and its difficult to see if you're actually doing the tight thing?
Going to the garden center, coming home with a bunch of seedlings,plants and then abandoning them once they get home to die slow painful deaths... unplanted and forgotten.
Hmm... you're not referring to "women". You're talking about one specific woman. And a very bad at gardening, as it seems.
Not really, known a whole bunch of women that do this. Either they like the "idea" of gardening, ya know in theory, or they simply can't keep focused on it. My wife for instance: We moved my mom out here a couple years ago, found her an apartment with a huge patio on the ground floor and my wife instantly started making plans to have a "garden patio" Bought several dozen planters, my wife went and collected soil from the forest, spent a couple hundred bucks on seeds, bulbs and plants, even got a trellis for her climbers. She got everything planeted, kept up with the watering for the first month or so.....and then the summer heat hit. Like 38-40c, and then it was "just too hot" for her to deal with. Then it became "my responsibility" Small planters like that need watering multiple times a day, and even though my moms place is like 3 blocks from ours, in that heat, with no A/C anywhere and a full day of all the other things i actually need to do....not a good time.
Load More Replies...Very guilty... some years the garden is beautiful and some years I treat it like s**t.
I'm well aware I suck at dealing with plants, so I won't even try my hands at gardening lol.
LMFAO. I have admittedly been guilty of this one, but stopped once I accepted that I have a black thumb. I'll stick with the occasional flowers, they're gonna die anyway
Minimizing the struggles men have because women have it worse.
this one really gets me like there will be a post about men's issues and there will always be some women who will completely disregard the whole thing because women have it worse problems suffered by one person doesnt somehow lessen more serious problems
That goes both ways unfortunately. There's room to talk about both, and both SHOULD be talked about, but there's no need to minimise or hijack a discussion of one. Room for everyone.
Load More Replies...To be honest, when I started reading this site I was at one point a bit fed up with all the articles about things women deal with due to their gender. I had to use the search function for articles the other way around. Equal treatment means both sides should be heard. I am sorry to hear this.
Women don't have it worse. We have it different. I've been told by teenage guys that girls "have it so much worse because of hormones." No. Don't feels sorry for me. I love being a woman and all this hormone stuff is just part of it. I'd be a lot unhappier if my body wasn't working properly, haha.
Why does it have to be a competitive sport tho???? If suffering is relative then yes stubbing your toe can be more painful than childbirth right?
The classic two-face attitude. To each other and to other men too.
I have worked with men and with women… And I have observed that the backbiting is way worse with the women
To be fair, men gossip FAR more than women, and ruthlessly, too. If a man gets a promotion, he earned it. If a woman gets promoted, she slept her way into it.
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Disrespecting their man in public
Eh, "disrespecting their man"? Everybody seems to be disrespectful to everybody else nowadays. I just can't stand that "women should respect their husbands"-stuff. Everybody should treat each other with respect.
I have to be honest, I noted at some point I disagree more with my boyfriend or tease him more in public than I do privately. Not disrespecting, but also not necessary. I don't even know why I did it. It was not a pleasant realisation. Now I do it much less and try to ban it from my system. It should be good that there is awareness on this, than these behaviours can be tackled earlier.
Speaking negatively of men all at once. You speak truth to reality.
The irony of saying this on a thread entirely devoted to lumping all women under one umbrella is astonishing.
The topic of thread is habits in women that men can't stand, so they're not saying all women do this, they're saying they can't stand when women do this.
Load More Replies...Nobody appreciates being generalized, put down, and forbidden to defend themselves.
Says the person who is speaking negatively of all woman at once, but go off.
The topic of thread is habits in women that men can't stand, so they're not saying all women do this, they're saying they can't stand when women do this.
Load More Replies...Just cuz the few men you slept with cheated on U/made you feel like sheet doesn't mean all men are the same. Its like saying that becuz three women are wh*res all women are wh*res. Doesn't feel factual does it?
You are making it very clear how you view women just through your terminology on many of these entries.
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Load More Replies...No self awareness despite claiming they are so self aware and mindful of their actions and others feelings.. They are not one bit.
Not properly disposing of their feminine products in public/other people's bathrooms 🤮
Talking too much about money/desired lifestyle within the first couple of dates, even on your profile. A lot of men don’t want to be seen as an ATM with a p***s, and those that don’t mind that are more likely to see women as disposable, so it really exposes them to a potential lose/lose situation.
Absolutely, yes, of course check that your values align but be attracted to a man for the person he is, not because of what you think you can get out of him!
Some women and men have a checklist of what they want in a partner...sadly while ticking it off, they fail in getting to know the person they are dating....I've done it, my last boyfriend did it, they were not good relationships. So much is said these days about what a good partner equals, social media, movies and TV shows....I wouldn't want to have all of that in the background, and dating, meeting someone online, reading their profile. Online dating does tend to steer people to ticking off a list, because you list weight height hair job etc.time for reality gets pushed aside
Talking about your desires doesn't mean you automatically expect just HIM to pay for your dreams. My partents built and aquired a lot of things as a couple, over decades. Buying an appartement or a house is just out of reach for most singles nowadays. I spent thousands on my ex, hoping he would at some point carry his own weight. 🙈 My current partner and I have the unspoken agreement, that the person with more money also pays more. Until now the tables have turned several times, no conflicts, no bitterness
Addiction to social media, like IG. Millions of them can't go a single day without at least 4-5 updates on their story.
Not for me. My social medias are gathering cobwebs and have tumbleweeds rolling through.
Assuming they're right about everything, allowing themselves to stay delusional about everything in order to stay right, mindlessly supporting each other in being wrong so they don't have to feel bad about it.
Twenty five, thirty years ago, yeah this would be something you could attribute largely to women...but this has become more of a cultural issue than a gendered one. Everyone has their little group, with their special little hats, and they sit safe in secure in their nice little bubbles agreeing with everything each other says. This has always been the case, but the internet has amplified it to idiotic levels.
Gossiping and judging other women when they should be supportive and helpful
Mm, to a degree. However, speaking as a woman, some women don't deserve support or help. Neither do some men. Being a douche is gender neutral.
I’ve observed this way more in women than men. Men tend to be more collaborative, whereas women tend to be more competitive within their social circles. My sisters church group of friends are just awful… They all hate each other, but pretend to love each other, and try to outcompete each other to death. And then whoever doesn’t show up is going to get talked about.
Bathroom counter clutter.
Demanding men put the toilet seat down. You don’t leave it up for the men…… so what is the real issue with the toilet seat?
I had to instigate a rule im one shared house that no one got to leave their bottles of shower gel, shampoo etc in the shower cubicle. Take in what you need, then remove. Else you couldn't move for bottles.
Single mom syndrome. Meaning raising entitled kids with minimal consequences because they feel guilty about being a single mom…
“Oh hi, you’re single AND have 💰. Well I’m 22 and a single mom of 5. You can babysit and chauffeur the kids around, take me out with my friend and pay for everything, and pick up my utility bills. Oh, and to be completely transparent, I’m really not interested in you as a person at all. But perks are nice, right?”
Women seem to be dumb as hell when it comes to understanding the men they’re in love with. He cheated on you? Oh, I’ll give him another chance and he won’t do it again. He hit you? Oh I just said something that made him angry, I’ll need to watch what I say around him next time. He’s using you for your money? Oh he’s broke and doesn’t have a job right now, I don’t mind.
If you’re a woman reading this, please get a damn grip. Just because you’re in love with him, doesn’t mean he’s your end all be all. Just because you are able to love him unconditionally, doesn’t mean he will. I’m so tired of hearing my girl friends constantly complaining about the same s**t over the same guy treating ‘em like trash and them not knowing what to do. For the love of god, use your brain.
I feel like men need this advice as well. Took like twenty times for I finally kicked my wife out.
It's got nothing to do with supposedly being dumb, and everything to do with lack of selfesteem or selfworth. Demanding people 'simply use their brain' shows how little you can emphasize with the feeling of literal worthlessness, and for you that's a good thing.
Aka coercive control, gaslighting and domestic abuse… all genders can be victims, not just women.
The other day I read an article with reference to different scientific articles in which they talked about the behavior of women in terms of relationships with their partners and the fact of being a woman. Basically it was saying that women are attracted to bad boys especially during the ovulation period and that because women are the ones who are pregnant for 9 months and give birth to a baby who cannot fend for himself for years, he needs a stable relationship while the child is growing up. On the other hand, biologically, men are interested in passing on their DNA and that makes them tend to have affairs. Of course all this scientific reasoning is conditioned by the social rules that do not see well adultery, etc. If you put the above three statements together, you can understand what happens to these women.
Passive Aggression
Expecting a chase, naw girl, you ain’t gonna match my energy then ✌🏽
Actively pursuing men they are not attracted to, then blaming them for it, cheating and treating them badly for not being good enough without the men having any idea why.
Having secret a boyfriend that they hide from their friends and family because they are not good enough, with the guy not having a clue.
Assume men think like them
Main character syndrome. I don't think it's intentional but I see it so often I wonder if it's something new or I'm just starting to notice it.
Seriously stop posting that, this isn't "what is annoying that only women do." Its what is a common habit that women have.
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Sometimes women just need someone to vent to. They just want someone to listen.
Men too. My father and I will sometimes call each other and start with "Do you have time to listen to me vent?"
Load More Replies...As a dude have you never wanted to just vent. I already know the solution to my problem I just want to b***h about it to feel better. It's like when major pain broke that mans finger to help him forget his legs was missing. it's not helpful but it's takes your mind off it.
You don't get it? SHE WANTS TO TALK IT OUT, NOT HEAR WHAT SHE SHOULD OR NOT DO.
How is this a woman thing? Everyone just wants to vent and rant once in a while.
I ask my wife a lot "Is this a gripe or a grievance?" If it's a gripe I just listen if it's a grievance then I advise. Saves a lot of time if you just ask ahead of time.
venting by writing thoughts/feelings and then shredding/burning the paper gets them out and saves another person's ears and time. Also by writing, you can look at what you have written and notice behavior patterns or issues, perhaps pick up ideas to improve the situation. Plus: shredding/burning the paper is a form of cleansing/ "letting things go" ...satisfying!
Oh come on, men are the worst for this! Men LOVE to moan, which is the same thing. * I currently live in England, where EVERYONE likes to moan.
People sometimes need that and it's okay, I just get annoyed when they b*tch about the same thing every time.
yeah but you need to say that upfront. If you start venting without disclaiming up front that you want to rant, you WILL get solutions offered.
In regards to seeing a really beautiful woman with an average man: They scold the man and warn him about taking care of her and treating her nice, but they don't say the same thing to the beautiful woman. Like, I'd like to be treated nice too. What exactly have I done to be admonished like that? F**k that.
My cousin was an ugly bastard before he joined the army, then he got disfigured in a way that it isn't obvious that it's from an injury. His partner is an absolute stunner (with a VERY high paying job), he hears a lot of 'he must be loaded', and 'trophy wife' type comments, but in truth, he' just one of the best men to grace this earth with his presence and she saw it before anyone else.
I guess the implication is that she's out of his league and unless he treats her well, she'll easily find someone else else. Everyone should treat their partners well, why else be with them?
The implication is that women deserve to be pampered, worshipped and treated like princesses, while men should just be grateful for the opportunity to do so. When someone sees some greek god of a man, with a beast of a women, no one says "you better treat that man well!" It's always treated as some kind of proof, or point to prove that "everyone is beautiful" or "men will take anything" depending on whether the theme of the topic is building up women, or $hitting on men.
Load More Replies...From online mostly, forgetting that the reason they have so many bad experiences with men is because they date men. "The bar is so low for men!" etc... I'm not doubting that (seems to always be d**k pic o'clock online) but the bar is at least as low for women, even if it's sometimes in different ways. They would know that if they dated women. Ideally both sides should be able to come together and just agree that dating can indeed be incredibly (and sometimes distressingly) s**t. Anyone who has dated/relationshipped enough has genuine horror stories. In real life, not sure I'd say "a lot of women" but a bit of a pattern of assuming empathy based on gender. Specifically from "men can't read signals" when often, women simply can't give good signals. "I played with my hair like, 50 times" Sorry, dude just thought you had lice. Not sure if it's a generation thing or a country thing but a lot of modern discourse really does just seem like a load of bollocks.
Absolutely no accountability.
Smartphone crack addicts. I don’t date social media junkies. A woman without an ig is manageable. A woman without ig and facebook is a unicorn
I agree. If someone is more into their social media than they are the actual relationship… I’ll just see myself out and leave you to your fantasy life.
i had friend like this she would ask if i would like to meet up for a coffee or go for lunch and we would be sitting down and she would be texting i found this very rude like am i boring or something i mean why ask me to meet up if your gonna be on your phone all the time
Sounds like a freaking creepy control freak with the comment about: a woman without an ig is manageable.
Buying and or collecting things just because. Things that are never used, and were never intended to be used. Just things to have and take up space in garages, spare rooms, closets, etc ...
You never bought something because you liked it??? Everyone spends their money/collects something, tools, t-shirts, games, figurines, rocks, stamps, memorabilia. For me it's new food. 'Ooo, Dominos have a new pizza, I'll try that!' I don't even like Dominos! I'm not even hungry!
like men and knives or guns and cars and trains, and golf clubs and all the other stupid s**t men collect.
Ah bless your heart. You do know that *gasp* men collect things as well.
If you don't think men do this...you should see my dads shed, and he extended it to have more room...was 45+ years ago, but he collected things his whole life...treasure to some, trash to others
Talking too damn much and giving out information no one asked for
This sounds really hostile. Maybe just don't be around women. No one's forcing you to be with them.
But that's one of the cute things about girls. We like random info. Our guys don't always appreciate it...but guys who really love you will appreciate it because they know it makes you happy and is interesting to you.
For me I started the opposite- very quiet. I felt pressure to uphold the main part of conversation in early adulthood because I’m a girl. It’s just expected that you find it easy to talk. I’ve practiced and learned how to talk the majority of a conversation (it’s hard work) if I need to make the other person comfortable, but otherwise I’d prefer to listen.. my favourite questions that people often pick up on. The most unusual food you’ve eaten? Place you’d love to see one-day? latest project you’ve enjoyed? Most interesting thing you’ve learned about recently?
My wife. An example from this week. The doctor is interested in whether you're allergic to penicillin, not in which of your sisters once had an allergy to rye grass 40 years ago.
Leaving their hair/makeup stuff everywhere in the washroom
Speaking as a bi guy, women absolutely cannot handle rejection in any form. If you want to see a s****y reaction, reject a woman.
Not long ago my partner and I were at a bar. He went to the bathroom, and then some woman came up to me and started flirting. Hinting that I should buy her a drink. I told her I was gay… She got huffy with me and told me I was making it up. Then my partner came out of the bathroom and I walked right up to him and planted a big old kiss on his lips. That seem to make her even more angry.
I learned that the best way to "reject" a woman is just to act naive. Be innocent, don't take a hint, act like you were born yesterday. A direct "no" is the best way to have an enemy for life.
My bff recently broke up w her bf and he's not taking it well AT ALL
A $hitty reaction? Like....sh00ting someone for rejecting them, like Darius Miles did?
Thinking they're special. Sorry, you're regular. As are most people.
I feel like a lot of girls struggle with loving themselves when they are younger, so when they finally except their value they are shocked to find that other people valued them all along. It comes across sometimes as "special" but really they just didn't know they were special all along.
Everyone is special, so you can just keep your depressed a*s by yourself.
Always making excuses or saying I’m not good enough , it’s always my fault is usually the typical response from most females when you confront them about anything . Women just own up to your faults and mistakes quit trying to make a production out of everything you get questioned on .
The thread is about habits women have that men can't stand, this isn't saying that all women do this or that it's a woman specific thing, it's a man (presumably) saying they can't stand when women do this
Load More Replies...Suffered an extreme case: ex not only couldn’t take it when asked if I could comment and she said “yes” only later to still cry, get angry, and blame me for it. She also had a pattern of delivering critique my way over ideas and meaning I was not at all saying.
thinking they’re more attractive than they really are, having their friends affirm this false belief and then becoming delusional about it
If she ever asks “does this make me look fat?” Don’t say anything, and just quietly walk out of the room… There is no right answer to that question.
There is no objective measure of attractiveness or beauty. Someone cannot be more or less attractive "than they actually are". I think what the poster is finding confusing is that a particular woman likes the way she looks despite his opinion that she is unattractive.
This is especially true for overweight women (it is not just a "plus size", it is very unhealhy), with these super long artificial fingernails and brows drawn with a pencil.
Fatshaming, one of the last topics you can spread hatred against a minority without the fear of major repercussions.
Load More Replies...Confidence is good but no one is obligated to be attracted to you. Take rejection gracefully.
I think this one's funny. What do you want eat? *I don't know*
I do this because I want a back and forth. Throw out a suggestion and if I'm not interested I'll throw out another until we agree. What i get is you pick so I pick and I get the answer no and only no, and not i'm in the mood for _______ I want some place we will both agree on.
Load More Replies...Men do this, too. I usually try to start with “what am I definitely not in the mood for” and then once that’s ruled out, it’s easier to make a selection.
Men do this, too. Or I would say what I want to eat and my husband disagrees which leads to a back and forth.
The only reason women say this is because men aren't willing to go to mcdonalds for a salad, arbys for curly fries, that one hamburger shop accross town for a soup and sandwhich and the custard shop for a drink. Most women know this so they don't rattle of the list.
Younger days, shared a hoyse with 4 guys, only female was me. They could never tell me what they wanted for dinner, even after years of sharing with the same guys....unless it was pizza...thankfully we had a pizza hut across the road, all you could eat one night a week, dinner done
Way too many true comments here. In my household, I am pretty much the cook and cleaner. I need a clean house, not so clean that it doesn’t look lived in or it looks like it’s staged, but my wife doesn’t clean up. And I don’t mean leaving a few dishes in the sink or a couple of towels on the floor. It’s horrible and causes more conflict than anything else.
Give her an ultimatum. I did that and it worked. Either you wash up, or call me to wash up, but we do not leave a mess. If you make a mess and do not clean it up, I will call you on it and point it out like you are five years old.
Complaining about feeling unwell in their bodies when they are overweight and then not following through with their diet. I have had so many female friends who are constantly making up excuses to eat treats regularly, like 2-3 times a day while they want to lose weight. I'm tired, I'm on my period, I'm just gonna eat a little bit, I'm gonna train harder in the gym etc. And then they are asking me why my diet is working while they can't see results even though they also train regularly.
Women have a harder time at losing weight in terms of visibility due to anatomical reasons. Women usually (not all of course) have a higher body fat percentage than men, mainly due to the hormone Estradiol
These things may be true, but it is harder for women to lose weight than men. I followed a diet and exercised for 3 months and only lost 8 pounds. Of course, I am well over fifty so there's that.
My boyfriend can eat one sandwich less a day for a week or two and lose four pounds. I almost starve myself and excersize and nothing changes except that my hair starts to fall out.
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Entering a room or a store and standing right in the doorway.
Two magic words, super useful and handy, and work 95% of the time no problem, no questions asked "excuse me". I just changed your life didn't I ;).
Lets be fair, plenty of men are guilty of this too. I know when i walk out of a store, someone is going to be standing 2 inches past the threshold, looking around in blank confusion. It's an even split of men and women, but it defiantly skews towards the 45 and older crowd.
Oh dear, yes it definitely skews towards the 45 and older crowd.
Load More Replies...My understanding is that this is the same (or at least related) phenomena as forgetting why you walked into a room. Basically, you've gone from one physical environment to another and your brain needs a second to take in all the new information. And no, this is not something that is gender specific.
Screaming/yelling when they're excited. Especially in combination with getting excited about even the smallest and most insignificant things. It's so obnoxious and immature.
My god, the amount of pitiful man-children is this thread is infuriating. Oh no, people enjoying their lives! Remove that giant stick from out of your a*s.
As a noise sensitive person I feel this but it's not a character flaw in them it's just not a good match
I'm just gonna say party pooper.🤣 Why are you around people if you can't find joy in their joy?
Yes, I think this is more of a man thing, like when they're watching sports like when another guy bumps into them and they have to make a big deal over it etc
Load More Replies...Manipulation through tears Lying or omitting parts of the story Talking bad about other people behind their backs She regrets having casual sex and says she was abused
One thing I dislike about men is they never use periods, probably cause most don’t have any. /s
Women handle rejection *horribly* and other women enable it.
Men frequently beat, stalk and/or murder women who've rejected them. So, yanno.
Just read today in the newspaper that a man set his gf on fire and she died a horrible death. 😔 I don't want to say that women don't do horrible things to get revenge (often through the children) but this whole breakup-stalking-murder thing seems to be 90% a male thing.
Load More Replies...Are you talking about the drinking wine and eating a tub of ice cream with your best friend thing? :p
Apologizing too much at work or public
This may just be a few (million) ik a girl who has Autism and says sorry for every fcking thing. U push HER over "sorry" its honestly exhuasting.
Me too. My guy always blames it on the fact that I'm half Canadian 🤣
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Not drinking nearly enough water. Stay hydrated.
You do you, is usually the best. But please just make sure not to over hydrate and die (anyone reading this). That is a good rule of thumbs 👍👍 (is that called that?)
Load More Replies...I know someone who hates water and makes faces whenever she has to drink some.
This is why my wife and I got divorced. I would come home and she would be there, all dehydrated. Once I went into the mountains, searched for hours until I found the most perfect spring, issuing forth the cleanest, coolest, most pure mountain water. I filled a cut crystal jar, and sealed it with sweet-smelling beeswax. Once I got home, I sliced the most ripe lemon into florets, and gave her the water. She took maybe one sip, and gave me a curt "thanks". It got to the point where we weren't even talking about her dehydration. I started journaling her water intake, and it turned out she never drank more than four or five cups of water each day. When I confronted her about her water intake, she got angry. Called me "controlling" and "honestly, just really strange in a very bad way." We never got never cleared the dehydration hurdle. Dehydration killed an otherwise beautiful relationship.
Constantly complaining about how the world is such a “dark scary lonely ugly place” like okay. What do you want me to do about it?
Not be part of the things that make it scary and lonely, not difficult to understand.
Be a safe space and let her be your safe space. That's all you can do.
I think I speak for all women when I tell you: we want you to wear more paisley shirts.
But as was established elsewhere on the list "they don't want logic or solutions, just someone to listen" and absolutely nothing you can do for anyone is going to change those realities
Load More Replies...This jerk needs to learn the meaning of empathy and understanding.
Thinking they understand men.
I am willing to admit that I have no scudding clue what goes on in a man's head, haha. But I love them anyway.
Swiping people on dating apps then leaving them hanging when they match.
Uhhhh No. people have the right to change their mind, change the circumstance, or maybe they got someone else in the meantime. Just cause someone said hey maybe intereseted in you doesn't give you a right to their f*****g life, or attention, or even acknowledgement you f*****g psycho. Your whats wrong with men.
Trying to be masculine.
Define masculine. If you mean standing up for herself, being independent and self-sufficient, than the problem is you, not her.
I think that is more a thing in Hollywood productions rather than actual life
I hope you're being sarcastic, David. If not-get a damned life.
Load More Replies...I find it funny when the umpteenth man-bashing article comes out and a large amount of women pile on, but one article the other way and wow are there some defensive women.... I will say the same thing as I do on those articles: A lot of these things aren't specific to gender.
What rubs me about this is the title. Women are "female" but men are men. It's usually intended as an insult when used in this manner, and meant to dehumanize. I don't know how that trend started, but it's definitely an incel trope. Obviously we all do things to p**s each other off, but sometimes the way things are worded show how you view someone under the surface.
Load More Replies...Once again, a post generalisation of what one sex 'reportedly' thinks of another sex. And not in a 'funny' way but toxic. Odd how I keep reading about how we're supposed to be more accepting, less 'hateful', strive for equality and yet time and time again we're polarised by sensationalistic rubbish like this. The hypocrisy of sites like this drips...
Oh for FFS.... Like my hubby never left his whiskers in the sink, or did anything gross? LOL, no. People as a species are kinda gross. Just is what it is.
Wow, downvoted in less than 15 minutes. A new record! I'm a feminist, and I'm gonna say it: People can be awful regardless of race, religion, gender, etc. For every negative men throw down about women, there's one women can throw down about men, and they're *often the same thing with slight variations in wording*. (Messy, selfish, uncommunicative, immature, etc.)
Load More Replies...And yet, I've seen many men accepting all this kind of stuff, because she's beautiful.
Alright BP- we’ve had what women find creepy from men and what men don’t like in women. We’ve had what men find attractive in women… can the next be a positive build up please? Like what women admire in their men? Eg. How their eyes sparkle when they talk about their favourite topics/hobbies, how their husbands/boyfriends still seems to keep an almost boyish inquisitiveness and sense of adventure or my favourite how we love seeing them have happy and caring interactions with the elderly and children?
So many of these are either couples dynamics and most if not all have nothing to do with gender.
Some of these are absolutely toxic. Women are people, get it through your f*****g heads, that women are people.
We are. And there are examples of us being psychopaths towards others. Examples of women torturing children. We are not perfect. This doesn’t and can never justify being larger and stronger in general to control all women.
Load More Replies...The current title at the time of my comment is "70 female habits that make mens blood boil". Bored Panda, if you even listen to your users: Please change this articles name. Using "female" in place of women while opting to keep "men" instead of changing it to male is a bit less than tasteful. A fish can be a female, a cow can be a female, but only a human can be a woman. And either way, it just doesn't make sense to use female and man in the same sentence. Makes you look pretty stupid.
What is it with these articles? Just before, we had the opposite with what men like. What will be next, what women do and don't like in two more posts? I think I see a pattern here! 😂
At least we have some balance now and not only articles that show the women's perspective. Progress, while slow, is still progress
Load More Replies...I find it funny when the umpteenth man-bashing article comes out and a large amount of women pile on, but one article the other way and wow are there some defensive women.... I will say the same thing as I do on those articles: A lot of these things aren't specific to gender.
What rubs me about this is the title. Women are "female" but men are men. It's usually intended as an insult when used in this manner, and meant to dehumanize. I don't know how that trend started, but it's definitely an incel trope. Obviously we all do things to p**s each other off, but sometimes the way things are worded show how you view someone under the surface.
Load More Replies...Once again, a post generalisation of what one sex 'reportedly' thinks of another sex. And not in a 'funny' way but toxic. Odd how I keep reading about how we're supposed to be more accepting, less 'hateful', strive for equality and yet time and time again we're polarised by sensationalistic rubbish like this. The hypocrisy of sites like this drips...
Oh for FFS.... Like my hubby never left his whiskers in the sink, or did anything gross? LOL, no. People as a species are kinda gross. Just is what it is.
Wow, downvoted in less than 15 minutes. A new record! I'm a feminist, and I'm gonna say it: People can be awful regardless of race, religion, gender, etc. For every negative men throw down about women, there's one women can throw down about men, and they're *often the same thing with slight variations in wording*. (Messy, selfish, uncommunicative, immature, etc.)
Load More Replies...And yet, I've seen many men accepting all this kind of stuff, because she's beautiful.
Alright BP- we’ve had what women find creepy from men and what men don’t like in women. We’ve had what men find attractive in women… can the next be a positive build up please? Like what women admire in their men? Eg. How their eyes sparkle when they talk about their favourite topics/hobbies, how their husbands/boyfriends still seems to keep an almost boyish inquisitiveness and sense of adventure or my favourite how we love seeing them have happy and caring interactions with the elderly and children?
So many of these are either couples dynamics and most if not all have nothing to do with gender.
Some of these are absolutely toxic. Women are people, get it through your f*****g heads, that women are people.
We are. And there are examples of us being psychopaths towards others. Examples of women torturing children. We are not perfect. This doesn’t and can never justify being larger and stronger in general to control all women.
Load More Replies...The current title at the time of my comment is "70 female habits that make mens blood boil". Bored Panda, if you even listen to your users: Please change this articles name. Using "female" in place of women while opting to keep "men" instead of changing it to male is a bit less than tasteful. A fish can be a female, a cow can be a female, but only a human can be a woman. And either way, it just doesn't make sense to use female and man in the same sentence. Makes you look pretty stupid.
What is it with these articles? Just before, we had the opposite with what men like. What will be next, what women do and don't like in two more posts? I think I see a pattern here! 😂
At least we have some balance now and not only articles that show the women's perspective. Progress, while slow, is still progress
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