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History used to be one of my favorite subjects back in school and I still have a soft spot for it to this very day—you can probably see that from the history books I’ve got in my personal library in-between my favorite fantasy novels. So I know just how weird the subject can get if you switch up your perspective even a tiny bit. That’s exactly what reporter and novelist Zack Budryk helped internet users do with his recent viral thread on Twitter.

Zack inspired his followers to share some mindblowing historical overlaps that might just make you see the world in an entirely different light... or give you a small existential crisis. My personal favorite? Hands down, the fact that a samurai could have technically sent a fax to US president Abraham Lincoln. Now that’s the kind of real-life lore that could lead to the creation of a mini-series about Lincoln fighting steampunk fax machines alongside his samurai allies. Netflix, I hope you’re taking notes!

We’ve collected some of the coolest tweets about history for you to enjoy, dear Pandas. Go on, have a read, upvote the posts that you found to be the most interesting, and let us know if you’ve got any unusual historical overlaps in mind as well.

Bored Panda reached out to Joseph M. Pierre, a professor of psychiatry at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA, as well as to the moderator team at the r/AskHistorians subreddit with a few questions about finding reliable information, why some time periods have far more conspiracy theories associated with them than others, as well as how to develop the critical thinking skills needed to sift through (un)trustworthy sources. They were kind enough to answer my queries.

"Unless you have a lot of spare time on your hands it’s not going to be possible to check every historical claim you see on the internet. Even then, a lot of knowledge is locked in academic libraries and behind paywalls, so can be impossible to access anyway. When looking at ‘mindblowing’ facts on the internet a healthy sense of skepticism is essential—as is looking at the source. Is this being claimed by Twitter user @fakefacts420 or a Professor of History at the University of Oxford? Are you reading this on a university website or an email your nan has forwarded you?" one of the moderators told Bored Panda.

They suggested that you start off by checking sites such as AskHistorians or Snopes when doing research about historical topics. "While you might not have time to chase down historical references in the archives, there are many sites who have detailed debunkings of common historical myths and misconceptions. Checking there is always a good start," the AskHistorians moderator said.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mother is the same. Born in 1937, her grandmother Mary was a slave and she voted for Barack Obama.

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The redditor from the AskHistorians moderator team suggested that there is a direct correlation between the popularity of a time period and the number of conspiracy theories associated with them. "There are probably dozens of potential conspiracies surrounding Sumerian agriculture, but that topic isn’t in the public eye in the same way that something like the Second World War or the Roman Empire is," the AskHistorians moderator explained.

According to them, the most well-known historical conspiracy theories are weaponized by people who want to "exploit past events to push a political point in the present day." As such, you should always consider the potential motives of anyone trying to push through a conspiracy. The theories themselves can be anything, "whether this is people who want to fly the confederate flag arguing that the US civil war wasn't about slavery, right-wingers claiming that the Nazis were socialists or people with anti-immigration views trying to claim that the Roman Empire fell because of uncontrolled immigration."

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I substitute teach in Oakland, CA and I've gone months without seeing a white kid in a public school. The schools sometimes claim to have about 2% white kids but these are actually Yemeni immigrants, considered "white" for statistical purposes. Oakland High is less than 1% white. The schools in the affluent Oakland Hills are overwhelmingly white, but the schools in the flats are not integrated. One school was down 6 teachers the whole year. This is 2021.

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The more important and relevant the event and time period, the more likely it is that someone will try to exploit it for their own gain. "Because these events and periods are seen as important for the formation of the modern world, people see it as important that history aligns to their worldview or political leanings—even when it does not—and seek to twist reality in order to achieve this," the AskHistorians moderator shared with Bored Panda.

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I was interested to find out whether we should put a greater emphasis on teaching history in schools in the hope of fighting back against fake news, misinformation, and conspiracy theories. In the moderator's opinion, it's not so much that we ought to focus on history itself as on the underlying skills that history teaches us.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have that with children's birthdays. 'You're 2, so you were born around 2005?' - 'What do you mean 2019? That was just 2 weeks ago!...'

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"As well as actual historical content, schools are increasingly incorporating skills into the curriculum, teaching children how to evaluate sources for bias and judge their trustworthiness—one good example of this is Stanford's Thinking/Reading Like a Historian project. No historical document is objective, and the skills gained from working out how a document is biased, and most importantly what can still be gained from reading it, are easily transferable to other areas of life," they said. This is true for other subjects as well, not just history.

"English and reading teachers are increasingly incorporating media literacy skills into their lessons, helping students understand how to selectively ignore things they see on the internet, the power of confirmation bias, and how to slow down and consider our emotional responses to things we see and read on the internet."

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And there are still things like the incredibly high rate of missing and murdered Indigenous women (more than 60% of known abductors/murderers are white men), birth alerts that have kids taken away from Indigenous mothers, and the wildly high rate of Indigenous children in foster care at a rate way higher than the percentage of the population they make up. And, no, it's not because they're bad parents. It's biased removal of children.

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Joseph, from UCLA, told Bored Panda about the link between mistrust and false beliefs like conspiracy theories.

“Countering misinformation is a huge challenge and is often ineffective when it only amounts to presenting accurate information as an alternative to false beliefs,” he told me via email. “In my opinion, understanding conspiracy theories and other false beliefs is best understood as a byproduct of mistrust and misinformation. If people don’t trust authoritative sources of information, they aren’t going to replace their false beliefs with facts and we’re not going to be able to agree on what facts are. That’s where we often are these days.”

According to Joseph, so-called ‘inoculation strategies’ are some of the best evidence-based interventions that “beat misinformation to the punch.” However, in reality, it’s often misinformation “that’s beating accurate information to the punch.” Especially online.

“If we’re going to talk about education, what’s really needed is a retool from the bottom up, teaching people about analytical thinking, data reasoning, and media literacy starting in grade school. We’re 30 years into the internet now and I’ve never seen any evidence of this being part of education in America. It is in other countries,” he said.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Count Dracula was an immortal vampire and is therefore still alive, experiencing Covid-19!

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Lee McIntyre from Boston University previously told me that repetition plays a very important role in getting us to believe certain historical facts. "Repetition is important in making us believe things, whether they are true or not. There is a cognitive bias called the 'illusory truth effect' which is when we are repeatedly exposed to false information over and over and, over time, it begins to seem more plausible," he said.

"Social psychologists have known since the 1960s that repetition works, for truth or falsity. In fact, this idea goes back to Plato who said that it didn't hurt to repeat a true thing. And of course, for falsehood, this was one of the main propaganda tactics in Nazi Germany, where Hitler's propaganda minister understood the 'repetition effect,'" Lee from Boston University told Bored Panda. He added that what we should focus on is finding reliable, trustworthy sources, instead of relying on double-checking every single fact we stumble across because of how time-consuming this is.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If Elon Musk dropped dead today, it would take 900 years to wipe the smile off my face

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The green arc could be labeled “mass incarceration and economic limitation over petty drug laws.”

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cause spain actually moved on from their past while the US is permanently stuck sometime 300 years ago, and it shows.

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Zack is an environment and energy reporter at The Hill and is also a novelist in his spare time. His viral thread got more than 100k likes on Twitter in less than a week and so far has been retweeted over 13k times by fans of the topic.

However, Zack’s thread isn’t just entertaining, it also proves that we’re not really aware of how interconnected we all are. History, as we learn about it in school, might not put enough emphasis on how different cultures interacted with one another during the same time periods. A more holistic approach might be key here. I’d argue that ignorance about history makes us more susceptible to conspiracy theories, fake news, and misinformation.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Andrew Jackson was the first to wear trousers in his official portrait.

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Earlier, I spoke with Joseph from UCLA about conspiracy theories and separating fact from fiction. He said that many conspiracy theories that had cropped up recently “have been fairly inconsequential without any largescale behavioral ramifications.” Theories like what happened to JFK and Princess Diana to 9/11 or the Flat Earth theory.

However, Joseph noted that conspiracies about climate change are having negative real-life consequences. Though that doesn’t mean that all of the debate about the topic is focused just on conspiracy theories themselves. 

“In fact, the most conspiratorial claim about climate change may be that ‘big oil’ companies, like ‘big tobacco’ decades before, know that climate change is real and is caused by human CO2 production, but that they’re purposely claiming otherwise and putting out misinformation to the contrary that refutes what the vast majority of climate change scientists have stated in order to protect profits from the industry,” he told Bored Panda earlier.

“Those of us who believe that conspiracy theory (remembering that some conspiracy theories are true!) argue that real-life physical actions—more so on the part of industry than individuals per se—are necessary now.”

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Grandma saw many of these things during her 93 years on the earth. The change in technology has been amazing.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also Sir David Attenborough has won an award for broadcasting in black and white, colour, and various digital formats

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According to the professor, figuring out whether or not someone actually believes a conspiracy theory or is simply looking to drum up followers for attention and financial gain is very hard. “Determining if someone is lying isn’t easy and is complicated by the fact that we don’t really have a clear agreement of what it means to ‘believe’ something, much less genuinely,” he said.

People like Alex Jones have been called to answer about “belief conviction in various lawsuits,” according to the professor, but they’d always been able to get away without stating it bluntly whether or not their beliefs are real or if it’s all playing pretend for the show. “[He] has been able to skirt a firm account of whether he’s a huckster or true conspiracy theory believer,” Joseph gave an example.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And any woman that voted for trump should be ashamed. Your ancestors fought that hard for you to vote for a rapist misogynist?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not that recent is it? The discovery I mean. I would have said it's been known for at least a decade, but if 1990-2021 is 7 years, I guess all bets are off.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For some people it's only been 6 thousand years, but science has never been their strong suit.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To give a little bit more perspective, several countries are still using biplanes in a military capacity, partially because they fly too slowly for radar-guided missies to lock onto them.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I must have missed the part where the Lake Tokugawa people were shaping events all over the globe in a way even slightly close to much, good and bad, the British Empire was

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Age alone is not fit to evaluate a person's ability to lead, and to do do would make you just as bad as the racists you are railing against.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay, but now that you've mentioned Lincoln, I'm obligated to tell about that one time, a year or two prior to the infamous assassination, that John Wilkes Booth's older brother Edwin saved the life of Robert Lincoln, Abraham's oldest child.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This was a touching story. She married him when she was 17 and he was 93 because he wanted her to benefit from his pension after his death, as a way to thank and repay her for helping him. The marriage was kept a secret and she never applied for his pension. She never remarried after his death.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. Joan of Arc was already dead when the Inca empire was founded

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I don't suppose the person who tweeted this will see it, but if they do - y'all tell Aunt Mildred Good Evening from us!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think they meant to say T Rex lived closer to humans than TO the Stego. But seeing as all estimates of millions of years are somewhat inaccurate that might not be the case. T Rex died out some 66 million years ago, while the T Rex and Stegos also lived approximately 66 million years apart.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That great actress and lady was 89 when she voiced a character in Family Guy. She passed away the next year

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have a chat with those who had no rights in 2000. Same sex marriage not allowed until 2014 in England, Scotland & Wales, 2020 in Northern Ireland. 2015 in the U.S. It took until 2011 for LGBTQ to be permitted to serve in the U.S. military although you can bet your last dollar that they laid down their lives through history for their country long before then, they just weren’t allowed to be openly LGBTQ. 2018 ban lifted on women driving in Saudi Arabia. Human rights acts for Indigenous People, Disabled People plus many more. These are just the first that spring to mind, if you’ve not seen much change it’s because you already had those rights and didn’t notice those who were still fighting for equal rights. The fight is still going on.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this is a very betty white heavy post. has she become the ruler by which we measure time?

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

His Most Catholic Majesty, the King of Spain, gave a lot of loot to the Vatican. There’s a good chance that a Cellini masterpiece was made from a melted-down Incan masterpiece.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Though Thomas Jefferson was obsessed with finding fossils, they were animal fossils only. In 1842, after years of finding unusual bones, they were able to piece together bones of an extinct species. Jefferson died in 1809. It's possible that some bones could have been from dinosaurs in his life, they didn't know about dinosaurs in his lifetime. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/when-were-dinosaurs-discovered.html

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First Sharks entered the stage about 400 to 350 million years ago That is more than 100 million years before even the dinosaurs. First trees followed about 200 million years ago. So yes, it absolutely IS true.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can't fool me!! The queen has been alive since the dawn of time and she will live to see the end of the world

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Still, her father must have been close to a hundred years old. Try not to think about the mother.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I need more information about the story in the photograph…did he write his will before he was shot, or after? Why was he shot?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mr. Samuel J. Seymour, the last living eyewitness to the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln at Ford's Theater in Washington, D.C. was the mystery guest on the February 8, 1956 episode of the I've Got a Secret game show. Mr. Seymour (March 28, 1860 – April 12, 1956) was actually 95 years of age at the time of this appearance instead of 96. Host: Garry Moore Panelists from left to right: Bill Cullen, Jayne Meadows, Henry Morgan, Lucile Ball https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RPoymt3Jx4&ab_channel=HistoryFlicks4u

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wish more of them were still alive so they could give a proper scolding to those who treat this pandemic like it's a joke!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The biggest takeaway here is that change has happened far faster than we realize, especially since the Industrial Revolution.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They stopped using chariots because of changing tactics. They were still used long past their tactical usefulness though, as the Romans Chariot races attests.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@post 1 ... presumably she's replying to a moron, but, yes obviously, because we have fossil humans and trilobites etc which obviously are not dinosaurs. jesus how thick are you?

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And I'm so old that I could (theoretically) meet silent film star Lillian Gish. She was starring in the Birth of a nation in 1915.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dred Scott decision? Is this more American history that we're all supposed to know?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What? Am I missing something? What's strange about the fact that Mozart was born before Washington and died before him?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Woolson 1956. Albert Woolson was a drummer boy at 14-15 y.o., and lived to be 106.

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