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The Titanic (1997) was the most expensive movie of its time, and it is still in the top four highest-grossing films. It captured the hearts of many and is relevant to this day. Who doesn’t know the song My Heart Will Go On, which was created for the movie? And some of you may even know the whole movie by heart. 

Such iconic phrases as “I’m the king of the world” or “draw me like one of your French girls” became quoted outside the context of the Titanic. And the debate about whether or not Jack could have fitted on the door is never-ending.

The movie was undoubtedly a great success. Every scene and line of the movie was analyzed by fans. Some fans probably skipped the romantic scenes to check whether the dishes in the movie were based on the real Titanic menu. But what was real in the Titanic movie, and what was fiction? Cue Titanic movie facts!

There are things that not everyone knows about some of the behind-the-scenes of the film. Here are some facts about the Titanic movie that Bored Panda collected. Expect to find at least 12 disturbing facts about the Titanic movie that could make you watch it through different eyes!

#1

The Elderly Couple Lying In Bed While The Ship Was Sinking Was Based On Real People

the elderly couple lying in bed

The elderly couple seen lying in bed while musicians are playing and the water rushing into the room are based on real passengers from the unfortunate ship. The passengers in the real Titanic were Isidor and Ida Strauss, and their love story is as touching as Jack’s and Rose’s. They were married for 40 years, and witnesses say they were allowed on a lifeboat because of their age. Still, Isidor refused to get in before every woman and child left the ship. His wife decided to stay with her husband, and they were last seen on the boat deck sitting on a pair of deck chairs and holding hands until they both perished.

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Anh Tu Tran
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

would have been more impactful had the movie depicted the event as it occurred with Isidor refusing to act on his privilege and get on a lifeboat before other children and women. this couple was truly extraordinary

Ani-87
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also they owned Macy’s: https://www.chonday.com/straumacy18/

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Nick P
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The elder male was the Co-founder of Macy's department store...

Dave P
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He was also the CEO of Macy's and a known philanthropist who had just been on a tour of Europe and Middle East helping build hospitals for the poor and orphanages all over, he built many of those in the US as well. He left a lot of money in his will to help orphans out.

Salma Hernández
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a deleted scene when we saw Ida telling her husband that "where you go I go". You can find in on youtube.

Doggo Froggo
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aaawww that's just so beautiful

Jacob Allen
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so glad their sacrifice is at least somewhat honoured by the film.

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Here are some Titanic movie facts in a quick Q&A:

Q: When was Titanic released?

A: December 19, 1997.

Q: How long was the Titanic movie?

A: 3h 30m.

Q: When was the movie Titanic made?

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A: Filming took place from July 1996 to March 1997.

Q: What year was Titanic released?

A: 1997.

Q: How much did the Titanic movie make?

A: $2.264 Billion.

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    #2

    The Story The Irish Mother Was Telling Her Children Was About Tír Na nÓg, A Place In The Celtic Otherworld

    mother telling something to children in bed

    While the musicians are playing on the deck, there are some shots of people inside the ship: the captain, the ship’s designer, the elderly couple lying in bed, and the Irish mother telling a story to her children. The story was about Tír na nÓg: “And so they lived happily together for 300 years, in the land of Tír na nÓg, the land of eternal youth and beauty.” In Irish mythology, Tír na nÓg is a part of the Celtic Otherworld and is reached by passing a path across the sea. The story wasn’t in the original script and was suggested by other Irish actors. It fits perfectly: the mother is soothing her children, that once they are immersed in water, they will reach a land where they will be happy.

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    Jessica Billings
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the part that always makes me cry.

    Jacob Allen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same! It's the one scene that always gets me

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    Danieletc
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The mother, played by Jeanette Goldstein, also played Private Vazques in "Aliens", and John Conner's foster mom in "Terminator 2".

    Sean Harrison
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The mother was also the same actor that played Vasquez in Aliens.

    Ani-87
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was amazed by this but yeah it’s Jenette Goldstein in both. Lots of cameos.

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    Kate Gardner
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    why didn’t they just get on a life boat

    Kate Gardner
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    why didn’t they just get on a life boat?

    Danieletc
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The mother, played by Jenette Goldstein, also played Private Vazquez in "Aliens" and John Conner's foster mom in "Terminator 2".

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    #3

    Rose’s Portrait And The Sketches In Jack’s Binder Were Drawn By James Cameron

    a person drawing the portrait of a woman

    There are several iconic scenes in the Titanic that everyone remembers. Jack drawing Rose is definitely considered one of those touching, unforgettable moments. But in the up-close drawing shots showing the work with the pencil, we don’t see DiCaprio’s hand, but Cameron’s himself.


    James Cameron drew Rose’s portrait and all the sketches of the ‘French girls’ in Jack's binder. And that’s not all; DiCaprio is right-handed while Cameron is left-handed, but this little detail didn’t slip the director’s mind. The image was reversed in post-production to maintain continuity and ensure that nothing would break the illusion that Jack was the real artist.

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    Dark_flame
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did know it was James Cameron's hand and drawing, didn't know about left vs right handed tho, cool that they thought about the reversion of the image!

    Branden Roush
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    3 years ago

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    Hugo A-niro
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This guy had his hand in Every thing

    ultravioletmaglite
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And it's a good opportunity to glaze at Rose's boobs.

    Ross Nicholson
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    4 years ago

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    Cameron's female assistants had more to do with Titanic than he did. He wanted to "Raise the Titanic". I would be skeptical of this drawing attribution as well since Cameron's a Milli Vanilli type fraud. He's had all the money in the world and still can't finish Avatar II. I gave him (and his assistants) the stories for both in a single day. Spielberg's daughter is a great physician close to me. She just popped up to be my physician by way of excusing her father' cruel exploitation. Steve Spielberg set up the Cameron visitation that led to Titanic and Avatar. I gave her pheromone that made her heterosexual, at least temporarily. Instead of seeing the miracle I performed in a scientific light, she took her perversion so seriously she could not bear to know it as mere pathology. She's refused all contact, so I cannot observe her new persona. So, basically, David Cameran is the type of dishonest person who would fake his "drawing" in the film to aggrandize himself.

    Jacob Allen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That comment was about as easy to read as the thought of giving someone pheromones to turn them heterosexual is to digest.

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    #4

    Rose Spitting In Cal’s Face Wasn’t On The Script—Kate Winslet Was Improvising

    Rose telling something

    The scene when Jack is teaching Rose to spit was almost completely improvised, but not forgotten by the actress. Apparently she was inspired by it and decided to use her newly acquired skill in another impromptu scene. When the ship is sinking and she wants to leave her mother and her future husband to go back to find Jack, her fiancé Cal grabs her arm and doesn't let go. That's when Rose spits to his face and breaks free. The original script said to use a hairpin, but spitting worked even better, especially because it was Jack who taught her that. Also, the actor who played Cal, Billy Zane, wasn't aware of Winslet's idea, so his surprised face and disgust are a genuine reaction.

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    Robyn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Welp apparently Kate didn't like Cal

    Claire
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They also had to do multiple takes. She ran out of spit, so someone suggested lube. So she is actually spitting k-y jelly at poor Billy.

    Yafa Crane Luria
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would tick me off if I were Billy Zane.

    Vicky Z
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    that's not nice to do before informing your colleague! he could act surprised he is an actor you know!

    Ryann Flynn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yea she broke up with cal for jack

    Haunting Spirit
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    4 years ago

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    If she did this in 2020 (or now) she would get sued.

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    #5

    The Water On The Set Was So Cold That Kate Winslet Ended Up Getting Hypothermia

    close up view of Rose in water with the whistle

    After the ship sank, Jack and Rose were hanging on to their lives in the freezing water. That scene wasn’t the most pleasant experience for the actress Kate Winslet. There were even rumors that she got pneumonia. Still, in an interview with Colbert on The Late Night Show, the actress clarified that it wasn’t that severe. Still, the water was really cold, and she actually got hypothermia. If you are wondering why they would make the actors suffer from the cold and not just let them act that it’s cold, Winslet remembers that there was a lot of water, so she thinks there was just too much of it to heat up.

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    Scagsy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Method acting at its finest

    Laura Dawson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    actually she got hypothermia is the scene where she's having to walk through the water with the axe (not the scene pictured as this was in an indoor pool that was heated due to the amount of extras) the ice particles on her face were added in post production.

    Oerff On Tour
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another example that the water was cold: after Jack was freed from his handcuffs and jumped in the water, he said "God, that's cold!" This was Leonardo's real reaction, that was kept in the final cut, because James Cameron wanted to keep this for it's authenticity

    The Dave
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good, Rose deserved it after letting Jack drown while she hogged the door. Just kidding.

    Sagegreen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was room on that raft for two!

    Kate Gardner
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it is because kate refused to wear a wetsuit like her colleagues. she DID get pneumonia as well.

    Valerie G.
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    a friend of mine in Vancouver was an extra, he said he spent over eight hours in the water. It was in a pool, so it wasn't so cold. He just had to pretend to be a floating body.

    Donna Leske
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nooooo, olympic pools can be 'heated'.

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    #6

    The Footage Of The Titanic Under Water Is Real As Cameron Himself Dived To See The Wreckage

    the ship under water

    James Cameron was fascinated by shipwrecks, and the idea of filming the Titanic came when he met Robert Ballard—the crew leader, who discovered the famous liner’s wreckage. The film’s production started in 1995, and they dived into the sea to look at the real Titanic ship. Cameron really did dive into the sea and spent more time on the Titanic than the actual passengers in 1912. He went there 12 times and would spend between 15 and 17 hours exploring, filming, and taking in all the disaster’s sadness and injustice. The footage he took underwater appeared in the movie, making it even more realistic. This experience made Cameron want the viewers to understand that this story wasn’t just a drama. It was an event that happened to real people, not all of whom survived.

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    kristy sickles
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    James Cameron truly put his all into this masterpiece!

    Aubrey Baird
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why did you get downvoted? I upvoted you but now it's just at 0.

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    Jacob Allen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm pretty sure some of the underwater scenes were filmed using miniature scale models but I might be wrong

    Hetal Vyas
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen the documentaries about him doing it, amazing

    Dori Wilson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the parts showing the underwater footage were very interesting. As a person who loves history it's something that adds to his storytelling in the movie.

    Hugo A-niro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its a sickening story of human arrogance and social injustice

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    #7

    The Carpets For The Movie Set Were Made By The Same Manufacturers Who Made Them For The Real Titanic

    man standing near a wooden column

    Most of the decor on set was reconstructed by or under the supervision of researchers of the White Star Line to be as realistic and historically accurate as possible. Cameron insisted on using real wallpaper and actual crystal chandeliers, putting lead windows, and stamping small or unseen items with the White Star Line’s logo. He also persuaded the firm who made carpets for the real Titanic, BMK-Stoddard of England, to make carpets for the movie. The manufacturers still had the patterns of the original carpet, and they can be seen in the main salon at the bottom of the Grand Staircase, in the corridors and suites.

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    birdie asf
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    james cameron really decided to go all out. hes a genius

    Dori Wilson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it adds to the authenticity of the event. To see how it is before and after.

    Hugo A-niro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't really get using the real STUFF for a movie.

    Mary Peace
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I suppose it's the only way to make sure it looks authentic, but I agree with you, I don't know why you'd want to spend that much money, especially on things that couldn't be seen in the movie.

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    #8

    There Were Quotes Of Real-Life Survivors In The Script

    close up view of Jack

    In the script, James Cameron used quotes from real passengers who survived the disaster. For example, when Jack wants to stop Rose from jumping off the ship, he tells her that while fishing, he fell into the freezing water after the ice broke. It felt like “being stabbed with a thousand knives all over your body.” This is an actual quote of Second Officer Charles Herber Lightoller, describing his experience: “Striking the water was like a thousand knives being driven into one’s body, and, for a few moments, I completely lost grip of myself.“

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    Kevin Donegan
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have you ever jumped into a cold body of water? Every nerve is on fire!

    Welcome Welcome
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. In my state people will go into the freezing river and right away into the super warm hot springs. They do this several times and they say it's good for you. Dunno but I've done it and it feels like needles all over. Kind of a cool experience.

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s actually what ice cold water feels like. Even if you’re not falling or jumping into it. I’ve been splashed by unexpectedly large breaking waves while walking on the beach in winter, and every drop felt like the sharp point of a needle being driven into my skin.

    Chimmels
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was one piolot in a crashed plane accident his last words were “I’m sorry bill “ RIP mystery man and bill

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    #9

    Cameron Had Only One Shot To Film The Flooding Of The Grand Staircase

    people on the flooding grand staircase on the ship

    The Grand Staircase on set was built like a real staircase that would take quite a bit of damage with water-it wasn’t built just to be convincing enough for the viewers. But it was also built knowing it would be destroyed from the start. When the ship starts sinking, the room with the Grand Staircase is flooded with water. To make the destruction of the staircase more dramatic, 90,000 gallons (about 340,000 liters) of water were dropped on it. The production team knew they had just one shot to make that scene because this much water would completely destroy the set.

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    Bacony Cakes
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, the staircase tried to leave the area, like the real one.

    Y T
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    Yeah but you can do a lot in post production

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    #10

    The Fourth Funnel Of The Real Ship Wasn’t Connected To The Furnaces, And In The Movie, It Also Doesn’t Emit As Much Smoke

    the ship in the sea

    The Titanic in real life had four funnels, but only three of them were functional. In the beginning of the 20th century big ships had four funnels to properly draw heat and smoke out. But the Titanic had more advanced engineering and needed only three of them. The fourth was added to make the ship more impressive and grandiose. Also, because the ship was so big, it looked more balanced, so there was also an aesthetic purpose. It could be that it was used for ventilation for the kitchens. This detail was not missed in the movie and the fourth funnel emitted less smoke than the other three.

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    Sum Guy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See... that's why even cars have fake exhaust pipes even these days

    Mike Ward
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it's not a fake exhaust, it was still a real exhaust, just not for the furnaces. Air that was brought into the ship for circulation and cooling was exhausted out of it for one example.

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    Haunting Spirit
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Olympic, Titanic and Britannic had a 4th funnel. They were actually used as ventilators for the engineering spaces. The fourth funnel was added because all the first line express passenger liners had four funnels (including the Olympic class, there were only 14 four funneled express liners ever built). After the First World War, when oil replaced coal, new huge liners began to be built with only two or three funnels.

    Vicky Z
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    they included a lot details wow

    Jacob Allen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe if the ship's designers worried less about aesthetics there would have been enough life boats for everyone on board

    Dorrie Kimkaran
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I went to an author's lecture about the Titanic and there was additional reason for that 4th funnel. Most ships at the time had 3 funnels. The builders also reasoned that putting a 4th funnel on the Titanic would allow those that could not read or write (many in steerage) to find her easily.

    Hugo A-niro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A detail that did not impress me

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    #11

    Cameron Didn’t Want Any Music With Singing In It, But My Heart Will Go On Changed His Mind

    close up view of Jack and Rose with open hands

    James Cameron didn’t want any music to sing in his movie, and even more so, he didn’t want to end it with a pop song. He originally wanted Enya to compose the score for the film, but when she declined, Cameron turned to James Horner. Horner knew about Cameron’s vision, but he still secretly arranged to record a demo tape with Célin Dion of My Heart Will Go On, which he showed Cameron. In the end, the film director changed his mind. How could he not have? The song became Dion’s signature and one of the most memorable elements from the Titanic. From today’s perspective, the music and the film are truly inseparable.

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    Sum Guy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Celine would convince anyone

    Lillukka79
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the only songs that will make me change the chanel or turn of the radio.

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    D. Pitbull
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Allegedly (if true - please help with the source!), Ms. Dion was somewhat disinterested in the song initially and didn't want to sing it - but then relented and did a one-take ... just belted it out and that's what ended up in the movie. That woman is a treasure.

    Hollie Marie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love Enya but it wouldn't have worked if she did the music in my opinion

    Hugo A-niro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't like the song but Celine sells it

    Nizumi
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell me about it. I would literally walk out of any place playing it on the muzak. Walk in , hear two notes, spin around and walk out.

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    #12

    The Night Sky Was Depicted Incorrectly In The Original Release, And It Was Changed In The 2012 Re-release

    the night sky

    Because Titanic was marketed as a historically accurate movie, no mistake slipped through the viewers’ eyes. One of the things pointed out to be inaccurate was the night sky. Rose was floating on the door and looking up, but she didn’t see the same sky that people in 1912 saw. American astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson was insisting that it should be changed. Finally, Cameron agreed with that and sent Dr. Tyson an accurate constellation map. It was done, and in the 2012 re-release, the night sky was adjusted to reflect the historical time.

    The differences can be seen in the picture: the first is from the 1997 release, and the second is from the 2012 re-release.

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    Sum Guy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That feels unnecessary

    Johnny
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm curious how much it cost to correct the sky?

    Scagsy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine watching a masterpiece like Titanic and seeing the amazing special effects that brought it to life and then going, "That star looks silly there. That's not how it would have been". Really?

    Ara Noguera
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you, Neil deGrasse Tyson. I didn't notice, but now that I know, I will look for this detail if I ever watch this movie again.

    Kimberly Brown
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ruined the movie for me! Said no one but Neil deGrasse Tyson.

    frank0ys
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...I thought my screen was dusty, so I wiped it. Then I realized it was the stars in the pics.

    Hugo A-niro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did it matter?. Unless it tells us Our fates lie in the stars

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    #13

    The Real Titanic Sank At 02:20, And In The Movie, While The Ship Was Still Sinking, A Clock Showing 02:15 Can Be Seen

    the clock on the wall is in half of water

    The movie lasts a little bit more than three hours, but did you know that from the moment of the collision with the iceberg to the total submersion of the actual ship, 2 hours and 40 minutes have passed? The ship’s sinking wasn’t as fast as seen in the movie, but one of the details is very accurate. The ship collided with the iceberg at 23:40 (ship’s time). It disappeared at 02:20. There is a moment in the movie, nearly at the end, when total chaos takes over, where a clock is shown up close. It shows 02:15, five minutes until everything is over. The loyalty to details is really admirable!

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    depressePANcake
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sank on my birthday... April 15th is considered cursed since so many bad things have happened in that date, including the sinking of the titanic.

    I'manoob!
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorta same with my birthday, Dec. 7th. A.k.a Pearl Harbor Day

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    Fixin'Ta
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know why, but I don't find this amazing. Interesting, yes. But of course they would have gone to the trouble to make sure the clocks didn't have random times on them.

    Freloise_Raven
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is one seriously determined director

    Kate Gardner
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    no. it sank at 2:40 in the movie and 2:40 in real life

    Pusfarm
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A number of years ago someone did a CGI animation of the Titanic sinking in real time and posted it on YouTube. It was very well done. Just searched for "Titanic real time" and there are a few versions, including a remastered version of the one I saw.

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    #14

    The Scene With A Boy Playing With A Top Was Inspired By A Real Photo From The Titanic

    the boy playing with a top

    In James Cameron’s Titanic, there is a scene of a child playing with a spinning top while Jack is sneaking onto the first-class deck. This scene is actually recreated from a photo taken on April 11, 1912, by a Jesuit novitiate named Francis Browne. In it, six-year-old Robert Douglas Spedden of New York plays a traditional game of that time. His father is standing nearby, and other passengers are looking on.

    The boy and the father survived the sinking of the ship, though Robert died not long after in an accident. Francis Brown didn’t have to witness the ship’s disaster because he was one of the eight people who disembarked from the Titanic. He traveled from Southampton, England, to Queenstown (now Cobh), Ireland.

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    Laura Dawson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    further bonus: in the movie, the father (Frederic Spedden) of this boy was played by Don Lynch is actually a Titanic expert & assisted James Cameron in his historical research

    Mary Lugo
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Robert's mother was a Corning, and wrote a book for her son about his experiences. It was published and is called "The Titanic Bear" . It makes an interesting read.

    Mary Lugo
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Robert's mother was a Corning and wrote a story for her son about his experience. It is called "The Titanic Bear" and makes for an interesting read.

    Hugo A-niro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Life has so many stories that are not in movies

    Marion Connolly
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a country home near where I live (Emo Court) that was formally a Jesuit house where Fr. Browne lived. There is now a exhibition of his work there

    PurpleUnicorn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fr Brown went on to become a prolific photographer https://www.irishtimes.com/news/fr-browne-s-titanic-legacy-1.497078

    Danni
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why did they have to share that the boy died in an accident shortly after surviving this. Couldn't we have had a happy ending in our mind. heartbreaking.

    Aliquid A
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've never heard of a "top" being referred to as a "spinner"

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    #15

    The Chef In The Movie Was Based On A Real Person Who Most Likely Survived Because Of The Amount Of Alcohol He Had Consumed Prior

    the chef drinking from a flask

    The chef we see drinking from a flask next to Jack and Rose while the ship is sinking is based on a real person. Charles John Joughin was an English-American chef who is notable for surviving in the freezing water for two hours, which is a lot. He was the last survivor to leave the Titanic. He climbed on the safety rail outside the ship and waited to go down like on an elevator. He explained that he didn’t feel the effects of the cold water as much, probably because of the consumed alcohol.

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    Sum Guy
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    4 years ago

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    Alcohol saves lives

    Gin. No tonic
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Overweight people float better, and have better insulation from the cold water. Whereas alcohol speeds up hypothermia, even though a person feels warm, one is actually freezing to death faster.

    Wendillon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You've missed the point. The idea isn't that the alcohol warmed him up and protected him from freezing, but that he was so drunk he couldn't feel the cold, so instead of being paralyzed by the cold like the other survivors in the water he was still able to move and swim. Like how a sober person can't walk on a broken foot but a drunk bloke just might.

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    Toby Flenderson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just because he hypothesized alcohol saved him doesn't make it true (more likely it was 40 years of eating sugar and butter that gave him above-average insulation).

    Johnny
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This seems like an unlikely explanation since alcohol makes hypothermia worse by dilating blood vessels and reducing the shivering response. I think it's more likely that he survived *despite* drinking alcohol rather than *because* of it.

    Lisa Johannesson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is really not how that works. If anything, he would have survived *despite* the alcohol

    J. F.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wasn't there also an officer who got saved by an exploding boiler?

    bill marsano
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Beware this myth. Fact is alcohol andcold weather can be fatal. The whickeyu's 'burn' makes you feel warm but iot is your enemy.

    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't know this character was the chef

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    #16

    The Renault In The Movie Was Also Aboard The Real Titanic

    close up view of an old car

    The car being hoisted onto the ship at the beginning of the movie is a 1912 Renault Type CB Coupe de Ville. It is the same car in which, later in the film, Rose and Jack have their steamy scene. Although the scene was the product of the director’s imagination, the car wasn’t. According to the ship’s cargo manifesto, it was actually aboard the Titanic. And it is the only car known to have been there. It belonged to an American named William Carter of Bryn Mawr. He just bought the car while traveling in Europe with his family. Carter survived and later sought reimbursement from White Star Line for the value of his newly purchased car, which was $5000. Today, that would be about $130,000.

    Since 1985, when Robert Ballard discovered the wreckage of the RMS Titanic, salvagers have been very interested in the car, but it still remains hidden. If the car was found, it could be sold for millions of dollars at auction, knowing that other items found at the bottom of the ocean, such as dinner menus, were sold for $25,000 to $35,000.

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    Wilf
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Except in real life the car was dismantled and packed in crates, so Jack would have had to re-assemble it before he got to do the nasty... which admittedly might have been a bit of a mood killer.

    Kay blue
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm pretty sure nothing else is allowed to leave the wreck site now.

    Dori Wilson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In all likelihood it saltwater would most likely have eaten the steel the vehicle was made of.

    Hugo A-niro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Was it dismantled? Good question. There is big money involved so I doubt it was dismantled

    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I guess that nobody had sex in the actual one though

    Becca Gizmo the Squirrel
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait it was the EXACT car? Or just one like it?

    Ian Koch
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's an EXPENSIVE dinner menu.

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    #17

    The Knife Fabrizio Uses To Cut The Ropes Of A Lifeboat Is The Same Knife He And Jack Won In A Card Game At The Beginning Of The Movie

    Fabrizio cutting the ropes with a knife

    At the beginning of the movie, Jack is playing cards with his friend Fabrizio. In the end, they win the tickets with which they can board the Titanic, some money, a watch, and a knife. Later in the film, when the ship is sinking, Fabrizio uses the same knife to cut down a lifeboat.

    Also, the watch says it was 11:53, so the two friends had to hurry to the ship because it was scheduled to leave at 12:00, just like the real one.

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    Laura Dawson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a huge Titanic enthusiast & I didn't know this

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    #18

    Jack Couldn’t Keep His Promise Of Taking Rose To Santa Monica, But Apparently, She Still Went There As It Is Seen In Her Old Photos

    an old photo of Rose riding a horse

    At the beginning of the movie, shortly after Jack and Rose meet, Jack promises Rose that he will take her to Santa Monica Pier, where they will have fun like Rose never had before. He tells her he will take Rose on the roller coaster and ride horses on the beach. Let’s ignore the fact that the roller coasters were built after the sinking of the Titanic and focus on the fact that at the very end of the movie, when we are shown Rose’s old photos, in one of them, she is on a horse and Santa Monica Pier is seen in the background.

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    Linus Nilsson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, he only said that he would take her on the rollercoaster, he didn't specify if it would be before or after it was built.

    Debrina Blackmoon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well. he was psychic-duh! Also, there's the fishing story.

    Y T
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a bit weird. If Cameron was so focused on the details (see: beluga caviar) why would he let this pass?

    Kevin Donegan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, Kate Winslett took a trip to Santa Monica Pier after filming the Titanic? It sure looks like her.

    Linda Haney
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If only she would have let him on the float. He might have been there too. So much fo "" I'll never let go"

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    #19

    Old Rose’s Dog Is A Reference To Real Pomeranians That Survived The Sinking Ship

    an old woman with a white Pomeranian dog saved by rescuers

    The old Rose in the movie owns a white Pomeranian. It’s not just a random detail, as it was Cameron’s way of paying tribute to the dogs that survived the ship’s sinking. The breed of the dog was also chosen purposely because two of the three dogs that survived were Pomeranians. When the real ship sank, a passenger released dogs from their kennels. James Cameron initially filmed scenes with animals, but they didn’t make the cut.

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    Laura Dawson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i worked this out for myself after I read about the dogs & thought gosh that dog looks similar & I was right!

    Dana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The third dog was a Pekingese! Owning a Pekingese, I am proud of that fact. The dogs were snuck into coats as peke fur and most like pom fur would have weighed the dogs down, not to mention the cold water

    turtledove
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    im just so glad that someone released the animals thats great

    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    why I don't remember her holding this cutie??? I've seen it a million times!

    Brecklyn Starchman
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then the dog would be dead... Bc it's been 84 yrs

    #20

    One Time Winslet’s Coat Got Caught On The Gate, And She Had To Break Free From The Coat To Not Drown

    two people in water near closed gate

    Sometimes actors get in accidents on set, and Kate Winslet had one while filming the Titanic. During the scene when Jack and Rose were running away from a flush of water down the corridor and were swiped by the wave, Winslet’s heavy coat got caught on the gate. The actress nearly drowned, but luckily, she managed to free herself from the coat. She said she never complained about it to James Cameron because she didn’t want to be a wimp and continued working. On the other hand, James Cameron reassured that Winslet was never in physical danger.

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    Sum Guy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine drowning on the titanic... the Irony

    Johnny
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If there was any chance of her being submerged, I'd be very surprised if their insurance didn't require rescue divers on set ready to give her a mouthpiece to breathe until they could free her.

    Lisa Chambers
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Almost drowning due to wardrobe issues is not wimpy.

    Pamela Scott
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Somehow I can't help but think it is easier for Cameron to say that.

    Kimberly Brown
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can you imagine someone NOT complaining?

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    #21

    The Scene When Jack Is Teaching Rose To Spit Was Almost Completely Improvised

    Jack and Rose speaking on the ship

    James Cameron often let the cast improvise during filming and add their touch to the script. In the movie, Jack tells Rose about the exciting things he has done in his life, and Rose feels trapped in hers. Jack promises Rose he will take her on an adventure when they leave the ship. The following scene was almost entirely improvised by the actors: Rose tells Jack that she never spat “like a man,” so he takes her to the side of the ship and shows her how it’s done, which should have been Rose’s first step towards living life to its fullest.

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    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    maybe this why it's perfect! they laugh and have fun like they really would!! and it shows the great chemistry they still have since they are friends!

    Hugo A-niro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this was idiotic in context of movie

    Laura Dawson
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    4 years ago

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    well I don't think this is entirely true as they made up a paste of sorts for the actors to spit out so if it was improvised on the spot, why would they have made preparations for the "spit"

    Wendillon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just because a scene is improvised doesn't mean the first take is included in the movie. The actors improvised one take, then they decided they liked it and polished it to fit the rest of the movie.

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    #22

    The Piece Of Wood On Which Rose Was Floating Is Based On An Artifact Found In The Real Ship’s Wreckage

    the piece of wood

    The photo on the top shows a piece from the real ship’s wreckage. It is displayed at the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic in Halifax, Nova Scotia. The shape of this artifact made it look like the one and only piece of a door on which Rose was lying after the ship sank, which always sparks the debate whether Jack could have fitted on it or not.

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    Toby Flenderson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He could fit, but it wouldn't bear his weight, as was shown when he tried to climb on (it started to go under).

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    Y T
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mythbusters made a piece about this and they said it would have been ok for two people.

    Y T
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Couldn't they take turns? She could at least have given him her life vest!

    Carmen Elena
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Don´t say it, don´t say it, don´t say it..." THERE WAS A LOT OF ROOM IN THAT THING!!!

    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    pff enough with this "he could have fit"! I was also devastated, but Cameron wanted him dead so he died end of story! not all movies have happy ending it's not realistic and anyway titanic couldn't have happy ending it's a tragedy!

    Gaya K
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good grief, are we still on about that? Yes, both could've fit, but they'd have both been partially submerged had they done that. Their combined weight on the door would've meant the door would be partially submerged in the water and they most likely would've died from hypothermia. The only way that would've worked was if they tied their lifesavers on the door to keep it more afloat. I think Mythbusters were the ones to prove that.

    Commander Rex
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They would’ve sunk, as somebody in my thread pointed out, the door was less then 5 inches, which could only take about 120 lbs, so it was likely 3 inches, so I’ll give them a generous 100 pounds, they still would’ve sunk either way

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    Laura Dawson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have seen this piece of panel in real life. It's not that big, Cameron's panel is a lot bigger. Jack could have fitted but would it have remained afloat? No as we see Jack try to get on & it tips over so please lets once & for all put it to rest. (also not a door)

    Logic and Reason
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The myth busters tested this, they said it was plausible that he could have fit.

    Bisexuali-tea
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The most controversial of them all XD

    Hayley Benoit
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read somewhere that yes he would have fit but the weight of both of them and the door, it would have sank.

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    #23

    During Dinner, The Actors Were Served Real Beluga Caviar

    black caviar in the plate

    If the production saved money on things like building only half of the ship, they didn’t spare expenses in other areas. In the scene where Jack and Rose go to a dinner in the first-class dining room, he is served caviar. To make the scene more authentic, the actors were served real Beluga caviar, which is the most expensive type of caviar. The prices can range anywhere from $3,500 to $5,000 for a pound.

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    Gin. No tonic
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm SURE it was for the authenticity! /s

    Wendillon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would imagine it was since most people don't seem to like caviar.

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    Debrina Blackmoon
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't know 'til very recently there is a Beluga Sturgeon, not just the whale.

    J. Cole
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This makes more sense, thanks for the clarification!

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    Ozacoter
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absurd since normal black caviar is very cheap and looks the same.

    Gwen Parker
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, the caviar comes from the Beluga Sturgeon, NOT Beluga whales. Whales are mammals, therefore do not lay eggs.

    Hugo A-niro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its obvious Cameron's idea of saving money were not based on reality

    CrunChewy McSandybutt
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay. I don't get the draw to caviar. It's... not good.

    Haunting Spirit
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine you bought a pound of that caviar saving it for a special time. And then your pregnant wife or your weed smoking son get food cravings and eat the whole pound. That would be hilarious.

    Kat Hoth
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did they have to eat it? Fish eggs are NASTY!

    Celtic Pirate Queen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That stuff is nasty. Rich people will put anything in their mouths.

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    #24

    The Ship’s Departure Was Filmed In Reverse And Flipped In Post-Production

    close up view of a boy from the crowd of people

    Even though the movie had a huge $200 million budget, the production still tried to save money where possible. Apparently, Cameron decided that building only half of the ship was necessary. He chose to replicate the starboard side because, at the filming location, the wind would blow the funnel smoke aft, making it look as if the ship was moving forward through the water.


    The problem with it was that in real life, at the moment of the departure from Southampton, Titanic was docked on its port side. Everything on scene had to be built and done backward and then flipped in post-production to maintain historical accuracy. So, if the script said to walk to one’s right, they had to walk to their left during shooting. Also, every writing had to be reversed, and even the costumes had to be made backward.

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    Gin. No tonic
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mirroring the world was still cheaper what building a second half of the ship.

    Emir
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cameron is really good at the technical aspects of directing.

    Chris Hardtke
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In this scene, passengers were instructed to wave with their left hands, as more people are right handed IRL and with the knowledge the image would be flipped.

    velocirrober
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the movie you can still see most of them wave with their left hand, so maybe they forgot.

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    Y T
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yet he still bought the beluga caviar...

    Laura Dawson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have one of these screen used props it's framed & is very much flipped reverse.

    Hugo A-niro
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    4 years ago

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    Annoying little fact

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    #25

    One Of The Inaccuracies In The Movie Was Mentioning Lake Wissota, Which Was Formed After The Titanic Disaster

    Rose standing behind the handrale of the ship and looking at Jack

    The movie has many accurate details reflecting our knowledge about the real-life Titanic. Yet, there are a few errors, too. For example, Jack told Rose that he went fishing on Lake Wissota in Wisconsin with his father when he was a boy. The lake was formed by constructing a dam, which was finished in 1917, and the Titanic disaster occurred in 1912. So, it would have been impossible for Jack to go fishing there unless you believed the theory that Jack was a time traveler.

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    Debrina Blackmoon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just as I mentioned in #21! Ok, maybe he WAS a time traveler instead.

    SlothyK8
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My first visit to NW Wisconsin in 2006 before moving to the state a few years later...I insisted on seeing Lake Wissota. But when inside the visitor's center, I read about the history of the lake and my jaw dropped. I knew Cameron tried to be super accurate, but for Wisconsinites in the area the mistake was super obvious.

    Hugo A-niro
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    4 years ago

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    Lots of inaccuracies and wasteful money spending ..

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