Women Are Sharing Their Exes’ Seemingly Harmless Personality Traits That Ended Up Being The Reddest Flags Of Them All (30 Posts)
You think you know a person. Especially your partner. But one day they tell you that their pregnant ex-girlfriend is living with them and suddenly you feel like you're standing in front of a stranger. (Yes, Ross Geller, I'm talking about you. Shame.)
A few weeks ago, Redditor NTSTwitch made a post on the subreddit 'Ask Women' that read "What seemingly harmless personality traits ended up turning out to be a dealbreaker in your relationships?" and its members immediately started sharing their experiences.
We thought the answers provide some interesting insights into not only dating but socializing in general, so we rounded up the most-upvoted ones, and invite you to check them out as well.
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I can't date an extrovert. They can be really lovely people so I've tried but I was always just so tired. My husband likes to hang out at home and do nothing as much as I do, other people probably think we're boring af but I'm happy.
Boring is exciting! Look at all the books I've read and all the painting I have done and all the hours I have wasted on BP! My life is a gol-dang rollercoaster!
Load More Replies...Wouldn't a bigger reason you can't date extroverts be that you already have a husband?
I love being married to an extravert because he's away a lot, socialising. I get the house to myself! It's brilliant!
I like being like cat, two introverts who just can be together in same room/household, while being absolutely acceptable to "ignore" each other.
Load More Replies...I m an extrovert but I sometimes love to be an introvert and I think I am happy being who I am
Now people put "being an extrovert" in an article about red flags??? You guys are joking, right? You really need a reality check, as red flags are others, certainly not being an extrovert. As by your logic, we could say that introvert people are red flags too!!!
Also if someone think I'm "boring" because I don't want to spend time with them, it's their problem, not mine.
We managed to contact NTSTwitch and she agreed to tell us about what inspired her to make the post. "I formulated the question a few days after breaking up with my boyfriend of 4 years," the Redditor told Bored Panda. "We loved each other so much, but we just no longer have the same goals for our future or our lifestyle. So, I decided to gather my thoughts and figure out what I'm going to look for if I ever decide to find another life partner. In addition to all of the red flags I am already mindful of, I wanted to gather a list of not only other people's red flags but also their green flags that turned out to be red flags."
NTSTwitch continued by providing an example from her previous relationship. "I thought it was great that he was always available for me when I called and answered all of my texts on time. It made me feel important and special to him," she said, adding that, "Over the last few years, I began to realize that the reason he was always available was because he had no hobbies or interests, no real friends, no relationship with his family, and didn't like to go out. All of those things are now dealbreakers for me."
Agreeability. After a while you realise they never make any decisions and just go with whatever you want to do, which makes it so that you make literally all the decisions. It's exhausting.
broke off a wonderful relationship many years ago. i made every decision except for when she had to pee. i couldn't take it. lasted 8 months.
Only took me two dates. I was new to the area and he wanted me to pick the activity. Okay, dinner and a movie. He wanted me to pick the resteraunt ( before google and yelp). I dont even know where any are, much less of they are good. Picked Indian, it was okay ( not great ). Found out later he doesnt really like Indian. Him: what movie ? Me: sigh.
Load More Replies...What do you want for dinner? Oh, whatever you want. Bi+(, I don’t want to be responsible for every situation
Been there and done that. In my case he was such a huge people pleaser in general so he wouldn’t say no to anyone. So he ended up blaming me for making a lot of the decisions as if I wanted control in the relationship which is not at all what I wanted. I’m glad it’s over.
Probably because when they do make their own decision it is criticized, negated, and effectively rendered of no value by the other partner.
You got it backwards. It’s a passive-aggressive way to not take responsibility for poor or unfulfilling choices which they can then blame and resent their partner for. What you speak of is what happens when you default to a narcissist. What this conversation is about is someone who isn’t a control freak having to make the choices for someone who isn’t grown enough to shoulder the responsibility
Load More Replies...I was with someone that accused me of this, and he was right...I did go along with whatever he wanted. The problem was that there would be hell to pay if I didn't just agree all the time. When I tried to point this out, he told me I was making it up.
And sometimes it's because you insist on always having your way and it's not worth the fight. Still a red flag.
Ive realized the same thing. I absolutely dont tolerate people without hobbies or interests. Definetly not in my mate.
Consistently making demeaning “jokes” about you or your abilities. Death by a thousand cuts. It’s passive aggressive and completely repulsive.
They will downplay it and you will force yourself to laugh at these jokes because you tell yourself that selfdeprecation is sexy. Which is isnt. Self-irony is. If paired with self-confidence.
Load More Replies...Been there. Worse when you've sat them down and calmly explain you do not like them making jokes about specific things and their response is to start making jokes about those things on purpose instead of stopping.
My dad. His idea of motivation has always been demoralization. My poor mom has dealt with it for so long and she's miserable but also won't leave. They're in their seventies so she's just settled with it but I do wish she has stuck up for herself a lot more.
Mine too. I didn't realise it until long after I'd left and cut contact. "You can't take a joke" was his line. No, you're just a nasty, nasty man.
Load More Replies..."I'm just joking, Hon. They don't like it when they receive those words instead of giving them.
I’ve distanced myself from just people I know like that. They’re turning everything about you into a negative so eventually you just stop sharing. The same thing with people who always have a better experience than something that you just did.
Dr. Stephanie Freitag, who is a licensed clinical psychologist, highlighted that relationships are supposed to add to our lives. So if there's a red flag that you think calls for a breakup, you have all the rights to terminate it.
However, somewhat counterintuitively, you should think about these things not after another fight you just had but during one of the highs. "How are you feeling in your relationship? Of course, you're going to have down moments and days, but in your best moment in the relationship, when things are going smooth and well, how are you feeling?" Dr. Freitag said.
Relationships should make you feel happy, content, and joyful. "If you don't have as much of a positive association with the relationship, it probably should end," she added.
Conflict avoidance.
Nobody wants to fight all the time, but an inability to have a disagreement without shutting down completely is not sustainable in an adult relationship. It only builds resentment.
There was a good passage about this in "Galilee" by Clive Barker. "He liked to be liked, even if that meant avoiding a confrontation that would be to everybody's benefit. And so, faced with [his wife's] growing unhappiness, he simply averted his eyes."
I admit, I'm a bit like this, but I've been in abusive relationships. I don't like getting beat to c**p by a partner. So yeah I got this problem.
I just did a doubletake on this one. Toxic narcissism survivor here. I used to believe a more or less noisy debate between two strong and passionate individuals who love and respect each other is not just unavoidable but shouldn't be harmful in a healthy relationship. But I learned from my current partner that even though we both are sanguine and hot-tempered characters, we don't need to yell at each other. We can talk through things calmly. It's actually a lot more effective^^ and pleasant.
Talking about something when it’s not happening and you are both calm is helpful but when things are good, you forget to bring it up 😊
Load More Replies...Work on it is good, but shutting down is not necessarily a failing. Maybe you're traumatized or something. I do this bc I'm autistic and I have cPTSD from childhood abuse so discussions can really overwhelm me and I simply shut down. But I don't run away from them, I just rather talk about it when I'm in a better mood, otherwise the conversation goes nowhere.
Load More Replies...While I agree with this on the whole I think there's something to be said for walking away from a volatile situation or saying 'I'm afraid what I might say right now is going to come from an emotional place instead of a logical one, so lets just step away and talk about it again later.' That being said, it can't be something where you use that as a manipulation to get the other person to acquiesce. For instance, I know a lot of women who will just start crying when they have an argument about something because it will emotionally manipulate their partner into bending just to get it to stop. I know men who will raise their voices or try to get 'scary' to manipulate women into doing what they say. Or they'll threaten to leave constantly. If every time someone disagrees with you you threaten to leave than just do that because you clearly aren't mature enough to handle being in an adult relationship.
stepping away has always been the best way for me to deal with arguments! I can calm down and think rationally about what we're arguing about and if it's worth the argument. I think it's so terrible when people use that for manipulation
Load More Replies...For me, it's more of a question of how the disagreement manifests itself. Can we discuss this disagreement? Sure. Can we yell about this disagreement? Nah.
I dated a guy because I was SO lonely and desperate. He would always say " I HATE confrontation," and just would NOT have any discussions about any disagreements. This is a loser who spent a number of years not even knowing his first wife was no longer into him, it was a shock to him when she finally told him she met someone else.
On the other hand there are too many people who love drama and pick fights when there's nothing to fight about..
Mama's boys. In a sense they’re great because they tend to have more respect for women, however, sometimes it’s more then that. If they never disagree with their mom and always go with mommy’s suggestions or advice over yours then that’s a red flag. My husband won’t stick up for me to his mom and I’m feeling resentful for it.
Mama's boys don't respect women, they respect their mummy. Just bc he is respectful and always takes his mothers side means he has no respect for you and you are not his priority - his mother is.
EXACTLY. They respect their mom's, not you. Not even themselves, really.
Load More Replies...Finally got it thru my husbands head when I told him that if her opinion was supreme that the next time he needed s3x he should go ask her for it. (I used some horrible words but that is the gist) he saw that I was serious and started standing up for me... We are now 10 years in and everything is great. She's still a c u next Tuesday and I speak to her only when spoken to.
okay but that's seriously such a great way to get into his head about it, made me chuckle
Load More Replies...I dated a guy years ago that doted and doted on his mom. Everything revolved around her needs and advice and opinions. They even took vacations together and she made me feel like I was in the way, like competition. It all came to a head one day and it was over. I couldn't deal with feeling like I was in a relationship with him and his mom.
There’s a huge difference between a man that loves and respects his mom and being a mama’s boy. If a man is a mama’s boy, I blame it on his mother, because she has more than likely coddled him his whole life and always had the mindset that I’m the only woman good enough for my baby boy.
My MIL hated me and made it obvious, FIL was pretty nasty too, DH did not recognise it, Thankfully for most of our married life we did not live near them. Eventually I also passed on holidays with them. DH took two kids with him and the other two kids and I have a lovely holiday at home doing things WE wanted to do :-)
"If you're concerned enough to be noticing a lot of red flags, that is information that might require you to take a really hard look at what you're getting from the relationship," Dr. Freitag explained. "If you're at the point where you're more focused on the red flags than doing fun things together, then it might be time to consider why you're in the relationship in the first place."
Interestingly, among the 15% of American adults who are single and looking for a committed relationship or casual dates, men and women report equal levels of dissatisfaction with their dating lives and the ease of finding people to date, with roughly three-quarters experiencing these issues.
Among the top reasons cited are finding someone looking for the same type of relationship (53%), finding it hard to approach people (46%), and finding someone who meets their expectations (43%).
We had so much in common. I thought it was serendipitous. Turns out he just changes his personality to mirror who ever he’s around 100% of the time.
Same. I'm slowly getting better, but there will always be that need to be liked so we change our personalities based on who we're with because we have convinced ourselves that there is no possible way that anyone will ever like our true selves. BPD is a developed disorder, not something we're born with. It happens when you come from an abusive, neglectful, and/or manipulative environment, especially if you were raised by a narcissist. I hate how stigmatized this thing is, too. Not all with BPD are narcissists (some, yes, but NOT all). I could definitely keep going, but I should probably stop. I'm sure I haven't said anything you don't already know.
Load More Replies...it could be mental illness, i have autism and adhd an have been told i mirror people- i dont do it on purpose but i understand this persons concern
Been there. Last GF was BPD. Undiagnosed, but everything was there. She kept changing personalities on me and it got so bad that the one I spent the most time with was the abusive one.
Sounds like an INFJ. If he is one .. he actually does have all of those traits. He's not lying. We just can't show all of our facets at the same time. We're 1-on-1 people and do this to interact best with that individual. We can be both introverted and extroverted. If we're in a group, we're neutral.
Oh yeah. And then after the ring goes on he stops trying. Why? As my ex told me, he doesn't have to try anymore because he's "got me". Yeah, well that can change buddy. (And it did.)
This is scary... mine even bought same kettle and toaster - in exactly the same colour. Out of 18 possible options. Let's not mention the instant pot. He would try to upstage me all the time. He'd insist on booking expensive hotels just to show me he knows better things than I do - occasionally I'd be "allowed" to make reservations and if I choose a place he liked, he'd switch to it and remind me how he introduced me to the place. Needless to say ... I ran for the hills.
I've had that with my ex mentioned above. I was melting when I met him! We liked the same food, the same music, the same holiday destinations. It seemed so romantic. After the breakup I found out that he was adapting to his new partner, and her wishes are very different from mine.
He was always sweet and adoring towards me while a complete monster to anyone/everyone on the outside… lol it’s not that he has a soft spot for you!! It only lasts so long before they switch up on you too.
Yes! and abusers and narcissists use 'love bombing' with their intended victim so they are so wrapped up in the good. Its really really important to pay close attention to how they treat other people, especially service providers. You can tell a lot about a person by the way they treat waiters for eg. Pay attention, because that's who they truly are.
You bet it is. Their adoring behaviour towards you won’t last.
Load More Replies...You can tell the character of people by how they treat someone they no longer need.
"What I learned from the post was how several traits (within reason) can be a green flag or a red flag!" NTSTwitch, the author of the post, said. "I am looking for someone more social for my next relationship, but several people answered that being social was one of the traits that turned out to be a dealbreaker for them. It was unsurprising that I would see so many of what I perceived to be positive traits on the list, but it was really nice to gain some perspective on the subject anyway."
The Redditor thinks that people misjudge others' personality traits for several reasons. "One reason [I personally do it] is because I don't know myself well enough to know how I'd handle particular situations. For example, I think I'd want a man with his own life so I can have my own life. However, I haven’t been in that situation in a long time. Maybe the lack of attention would cause issues for me. The second reason for me is that I tend to settle when I get attached. If a man checks off a certain amount of boxes for me, it gets easier to ignore things that I know are dealbreakers. I also think it’s important to note that we aren’t psychics. We are making the best judgment we can with the information available to us at the time."
"It's easy to criticize our choices in hindsight, but I think a lot of us are just doing our best and life doesn't always turn out the way we thought!" she noted.
Any self proclaimed 'empath'. It turns into 'look how much I'm hurting because of your pain'
Edit: The point I'm making is that people who claim to be empaths often make other people's emotions about them. Rather than letting a person grieve, it becomes about how much the other person's grief effects them.
Have a friend like that. If I am sad she is devastated. If I stub my toe she needs an operation. Every single time. Even the horror of my husbands passing, when told got me "I know the feeling, I'm so sad". NO, you never lost a partner. Shut up and listen.
That sounds horrendous and extremely self absorbed
Load More Replies...They may be wording it weird but this is a thing people definitely do.
Load More Replies...Unless one is a sociopath or psychopath, people generally have an ability to empathize. There are two types of people who are overly sensitive to the pain of others and the world. The one who can’t help but seeing it yet takes no pleasure or enjoyment nor seeks acknowledgement. Then there’s the type who “feels your pain” to make it all about them. Often under the guise that they care so much about you that when you hurt, they hurt. They lack the skill set to actually sympathize and instead feel they’re being supportive by sharing in your emotion. It’s not necessarily a self-involved action, but a genuine attempt to be supportive. It’s just not constructive, helpful or healing. The famous empaths (those who can’t help but recognize & feel the pain of others & the world) tend to make beautiful music and art, but tend to die way too young, often at their own devices.
Another thought: So many of the great, most empathic saints sought to live solitary lives. Their love for others usually prevented this, but it's interesting to consider that the quest for solitude is a defensive position.
Load More Replies...Yes, and if they are sad it's your fault because you were neglecting their emotional needs, even if you didn't know they were hurting.
'Empaths' are quite often people who have grown up in an unsafe environment and had to learn to be hyper aware of every one around them, tip toeing around emotionally immature people becomes second nature all be it incredible exhausting, there's nothing insidious about it unless they go out of their way to use it against others.
Wait, there are people out there who call themselves „empaths“? Is this a new thing?
It kinda is, in forums like this or Reddit you'll find people defining themselves as empaths, which l've always thought is obnoxious and a stupid brag
Load More Replies...This is a trauma response too. No you don’t magically feel other people’s or animals emotions. You can have sympathy or compassion but not their actual brain chemistry or emotions. It’s projection. I do feel bad for people who do this but it can be distracting and self centered
For me it was messiness, it translated to me being responsible for all the house work & cleaning up after his mess. I became a caregiver not a partner.
or mean daddy, picture above looks like wife's side of bedroom.
Load More Replies...Yep, I know there are reasons that people have difficulty cleaning, both physical and mental, but the messiness is a deal-breaker at this point in my life. I can’t live like that and I’m just going to end up wildly resenting the person for being okay with me reaching my limit and having to clean, because that’s what it feels like on my side of the pitch, like a waiting game they are okay with playing against me.
Dudes bringing literal dirt from their feet into a bed. Nope.
Load More Replies...I have ADHD so I'm a mess like all the time, but I try my hardest to not let it burden other people
Don’t do it for other people. Do it for yourself. Clutter is fine (though sometimes a fire hazard). They’re your comfort things. Food, bad hygiene and smelly clothes are not ok. Don’t get ants.
Load More Replies...Who cares about house work?? MY DH and I have puir own rooms and sopages, works well. I did want to get a duplex with the kids and me one side, and his side for entertaining the boss! (and his parents when the came!)
Randi Gunther, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist and marriage counselor practicing in Southern California, and in her four decades of working with singles and couples, she has developed the following questions that should, in theory, help you decide if the person you're considering to involve yourself with is the right fit:
- Have your past partners turned out to be who you thought they would?
- Are you most often attracted to partners who are “out of reach"?
- Are the qualities you look initially for in a partner those you need for the long haul?
- Is it important to you that your partners impress others?
- Is the partner you want available within your current dating options?
- Are you being realistic in getting what you want based upon what you have to offer?
- Are your choices more often based on romantic myths rather than pragmatic possibilities?
If your answers to questions 1, 3, 5, and 6 are “no” and those to 2, 4, and 7, are “yes”, you are much less likely to find success in the dating market if you continue searching the way you have in the past.
Always funny. It’s fine to be funny, but it becomes a problem when the person prioritizes being funny over being kind. They’ll say something critical or sarcastic and try to hide behind “humor.” Or, “being funny” is such a big part of their identity that they will prioritize that over every else.
I wish in my younger days I had prioritized kindness over being funny in men.
I wonder if that constant humor is hiding depression? Miss you, Robin Williams!! RIP TWITCH!!
All the humorous people that I have known, male and female, have hidden hurt. The humor is a cover. It protects them from experiencing their true feelings. Usually they grew up with dysfunction. A big red flag.
Load More Replies...I think the issue isn't being funny too often, but finding being unkind funny. My wife is very short. Sometimes there are some funny short jokes. She'll get mad if she's left an opening and I don't have something funny to say. Sharing her frustration is funny, but putting her down is never funny to me. Unless she climbed up onto the counter to reach something and can't get back down on her own. (See what I did there...)
Or is are the jokes the person's way of dealing with emotions they aren't comfortable confronting?
Mine is hilarious, but there are times I need him to be serious. Sometimes the lines get blurred and I can't even always tell if something is meant for a joke or not. I tell him that if he purposefully puts effort into being serious, I'll laugh that much harder at his jokes.
Always being funny can lead to problems when the person is ill and still makes jokes. My husband was in the emergency room with pneumonia, and when the doctor asked him why he was there, he said, "For the ambiance." Funny, but confusing for the tired, humorless ER doc.
You forgot that you want to have a serious conversation like deciding what to do and all you get is jokes I loose my mind and want to murder them.
Briefly dealt with someone that made being the center of attention or constantly cracked jokes his identity. He was insecure about his looks so over-compensated. When he ignored me when I stated something was offensive to me, he continued to joke about it and told me I was being sensitive. That was one of the many reasons I ended it
Oh the things humans will find wrong with other humans just because. Ain't nothing wrong with having a strong sense of humor though. Sounds like it's that person's problem.
I have been stalked and harassed and the guy who did it said it was “just dark humor” and that I was being “an over sensitive tranny”, so while I agree being funny is fine, you can’t say someone shouldn’t have human rights or stalk them for “humor”
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“Telling it like it is” — at first it seemed like an admirable trait, to be with someone that’s blunt and straightforward. But after a while, I realized they just didn’t want to be held accountable or questioned for saying awful things.
I hate how some people use phrases like "telling it like it is" and "being blunt" and "playing Devil's Advocate" in order to make their rudeness and bullying sound like some sort of virtue.
I'd add my personal favourite - "no offence, but".
Load More Replies...People who are brutally honest are in it more for the brutality than the honesty
Yes, being honest often gets confused with being rude unnecessarily. Just because it may be true doesn't mean it needs to be said.
Beware of anyone who confuses "Telling it like it is" with "Telling it like I happen to see it".
I hate this. You can be straightforward without being abrasive. How you say things matter.
You can be upfront and straight with people without being nasty or saying awful things. The two can be mutually exclusive
People who say they have no filter are basically saying “I will say whatever I want and I don’t care how it affects other people.”
I’m an honest person, but I’m never brutally honest. Honesty should always go hand in hand with decorum and diplomacy.
One I haven't seen mentioned yet is the inability to take criticism. The last guy I was with had no problem critiquing my interests, jokes, or behaviors, but he'd always get so defensive if you ever tried to give him any constructive criticism about anything.
Not always the narcissist though. A victim of a narcissist develops a defensive mentality that criticism is untrue and undeserved. They no longer have the ability to separate what is constructive and what is made up manipulation.
Load More Replies...My husband again!!! I am the youngest of 5 siblings and he's the only child and homeschooled. No way can he take any constructive criticism. I have to choose my words wisely which usually ends up with me not saying anything and just holding back my feelings/thoughts.
Yeah, let's not establish a general rule about people with sibilings vs only child please. That's only your personal experience.
Load More Replies...Yup... and they think cutting you off mid-sentence with "fine fine. yeah. yup." and walking off is the 'correct' way to handle it.
People pleasers.
I used to think they were generous people with kind hearts, but over time I learned not to trust them because they’re not true to themselves and are very resentful people due to their inability to say how they really feel. They do nice things to “get” you to like them, not because they actually want to. I don’t like that.
Consider that it sometimes comes from people that were bullied as kids. We try to please people, especially those that are like bosses or mentors, because we have this avid fear of rejection and having the whole bullying thing happen again. It is an unreasonable behavior...but we just don't want to relive those days when we were nauseated at the thought of going to school and facing it all over again.
Exactly! It's a trauma response for a lot of people, myself included. My parents have traumatized me in forcing me to be extremely nice to everyone, including my stalker, rapist, etc.. my parents have yelled at me or punished me for not being "nice enough" and because I don't want to get in trouble, I try to be as nice as I can even when I'm having an off day or physically can't. And because of my parents, I have extreme anxiety, and it's horrible to go through. I hate that I'm a people pleaser, and I'm slowly pulling myself out of it.
Load More Replies...Not all people pleasers are like that. Some genuinely and wholeheartedly care about others, especially those that matter and try to uplift them any way that they can.
Being nice is different than being a people pleaser. Pleasers expect something in return.
Load More Replies...Ouch. I'm a people pleaser. :( Well... I will admit I sometimes catch myself being annoyed at people or playing the martyr for doing their job, then realize I volunteered for this. This also goes back to the avoidance of conflict. I hate when people are mad at me. So it is something I must work on.
I know it’s trite but when you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one.
Load More Replies...I have a genuine question: can any sort of therapy help the concerned person
Yes, absolutely. Therapy helped me identify the source of my people-pleasing behavior, and slowly move away from it.
Load More Replies...Usually it’s not to get you to like us. We don’t do it for friends and s**t. It’s not for you, it’s for us so we don’t feel like bad people. Then it turns into us feeling like we have to do it because that’s what people expect of us. Speaking from experience!!
Actual bad people don’t care. You care so we know you’re not bad.
Load More Replies...I would call myself a people pleaser because I can’t stand if someone is mad at me. I find it incredibly difficult to deal with. However, it mostly involves people that mean a lot to me, so in that case me doing something „nice“ isn’t entirely self-centered.
For me, if I dont care if someone doesn’t like me for a valid reason. It’s when it’s a lie or unjustified or they won’t talk to me about it, that it stresses me out.
Load More Replies...Or, if not resentful, anxious and stressed because they are constantly trying to please everyone. It gets exhausting to be in a relationship with someone who is constantly anxious and stressed and doesn't have proper boundries. It may sound harsh, but yes, you start to resent them for overcommitting, and being anxious and stressed all the time, because they won't take care of themselves by imposing boundries.
Ot every uses it to be manipulative. I was brought up to be a “yes, of course “ person by my parents and not to even think about upsetting other peoples feelings as that would be selfish. It’s taken me until my forty’s to over come this programming and say “no” and look after my own feelings. Being brought up like this really did not help my anxiety.
It's the ones the people pleasers are with that present the problems. My daughters compulsive need to be liked has gotten her wrapped up with some real losers. They couldn't complain about that, but she sure as hell could complain about they way they took advantage of her kindness.
Liking to “get a little buzzed”. What I thought was just a few drinks on Fridays and Saturdays turned out to be actually drinking through 2 liters of tequila in 24 hours. Wouldn’t have ever noticed the extent of the problem if I hadn’t moved in.
I don't think that 70% of the population gets through 2 litres of tequila ( or any hard liquor) in less than 24 hours. That's a lot of alcohol.
Load More Replies...Lol. I would add the people who never seemed to grow out of that teenage 'party' attitude when it comes to drinking/smoking. I drink/smoke occasionally but when you can't make an effort to have a conversation with me for more than 3 minutes but you can tell me the exact chemical combination of the pot your smoking, how to grow it and how you really want to get into owning a dispensary even though you haven't been able to keep a job for more than a year-- I'm going to get tired of you really fast. If that's the job you want, talk about it like a business person not like a kid who thinks he's just going to get to smoke pot all day. Same with alcohol. If you want to open a bar, that's fine. But if it's because you think you'll be able to sit there and drink all the time and have fun with friends it just shows your immaturity.
Oh my. I can see this guy in front of me. Jeez, in my twenties I must have been very patient (or stupid). Now, I would get bored in 5 minutes.
Load More Replies...I love alcohol, but 2 litres of spirits!!! I've lived a longish life, but anything over my hangovermeter is out.
I didn’t know he couldn’t stop. Once I figured it out and I stopped drinking so it would be easier for him, he just couldn’t stop himself. And he wasn’t a normal drunk, he was a disappear for 3 days after binge drinking all day everyday then calling from another country. He was then “stuck” there drinking his days and money away until he ran out of money and mom sent it to him. Then he drank her money away the first few times she sent it and finally came back a month or four later, when she finally made it clear she’d be sending no more money
I used to drink to an excessive point, to include hiding the amount i drank. Needed to smother the noise in my head but it only ruined everything around me. Party animals or psychological garbage dumps, drinkers to get drunk need some help and to quit drinking. It's the only way.
The really common ones are 'light beer alcoholics': a 12 pack a night...every night. Anyone who works at a convenience store knows a few.
I dated someone like this. What should have tipped me off was that he had to down a can of hard cider to help him sleep. It's weird, because he would never drink when we were out. After a few months he lost his job, and I discovered that he was a binge drinker. He lost two jobs in the three months I was dating him, so I imagine that he was drinking at work too. Buh-bye!
Him being a social butterfly. Turns out he was always seeing who he could reel in for later and had more back burners than a restaurant.
I have quite a few female friends & we are very social. How is that a red flag? I also have a bunch of male friends I’m very social with. Even quite a few gender-queer, non binary and trans friends. Social butterfly with all of them. How is any of this a red flag? It certainly isn’t a concern for my husband. Seems OP has misplaced the meaning of the flags. It’s ain’t his social nature that’s the problem. It’s the impulse control and need for validation. Ir he just can’t keep it in his pants.
Literally, the man who admits he's looking someone to marry who will put up with him cheating "fairly often." And, to him, I said I appreciate the honesty. Buh-bye!
I think the social butterfly is the wrong enemy here. Sounds like this person was just manipulative and disloyal.
Turned out to have been a warning... with the benefit of hindsight. As did "was always available for me 24 x 7" (because he had no other friends). No-one can win!
Not always a bad thing, just like having many female friends
Except this guy was a serial cheater. Having female friends is completely fine, except when you're sleeping with all of them, like in this post.
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Being a workaholic. I grew up in an immigrant home in the US, my parents had very little education from their country, so they worked very hard. I thought it was normal to work as much as they did. My ex was a workaholic with school, work, friendships, and family relationships. I even admired his work ethic. But the stress that culminated and little to no time for our relationship caused a lot of tension in our relationship.
...then it is not workaholism, that it is "just" the grind. True workaholics gets a kick out of working, as it both gives them a dopamin burst when they complete something, and can be an escape mechanism whereby you can procrastinate working on your issues by being too busy with work related tasks to think about anything else.
Load More Replies...Immigrants usually arrive with limited money, community , and pain from departure. Workaholism is understandable as a means to survive, thrive, and overcome.
wanting to see you all the time. I felt guilty if i didn't want to go to his place for a fourth time that week. towards the end, one of the last straws, was his s**t talking my mom because I had to help her with something around the house and therefore couldn't go to his place. this wasn't why I ended this abusive relationship, but in hindsight I realize it's a red flag I never noticed. Something I thought was flattering in the beginning turned into 2 years of being unable to enjoy my own company without feeling anxious and guilty.
Folks, this should be a HUGE red flag. When I met my ex I was 25 and hadn't been in many actual relationships. I mistook his possessiveness and love bombing for devotion and thought I was so lucky to be adored that way. Early on in our dating days, I went out for a girls' night with two friends and failed to see that his reaction was toxic. I could have saved myself so much heartache, pain, and lost friendships.
Try to think of it as a learning experience, if you can. I hope that helps.
Load More Replies...Ooh, yeah I was with a guy who ended up getting VERY possessive. I would make plans to hang out with friends, he would get jealous. I would invite him to hang out with us, and it wouldn't be good enough because he wanted me all to himself. That relationship only lasted about 8 or 9 months. It ended very quickly after he violently pushed me one day. My eyes opened in that moment. Noped out of it really quickly. I had to sleep in my car until I figured out other arrangements, but it was worth it.
My ex was never abusive, but he was insecure AF. If I had a new book I wanted to read, that's not what he heard. What he heard was "I don't want to spend time with you." That was basically what he heard ANY time I wanted to do something that didn't include him - shopping with my Mom, lunch with my friends, drinks with my sister - it didn't matter. 12 years I was married to this guy. Finally got to the point where he was screaming at me that I didn't love him and a light bulb went off. "You know what, Mike? You're absolutely right. I don't love you anymore." And a feeling of calm washed over me. Still took a few months, but best decision I ever made was leaving him.
Spontaneous. Turned into just him being impulsive and never being able to self discipline. It eventually led to cheating, drinking excessively, etc. I felt like I had to moderate him. As soon as I broke up, he went off the deep end and said it was because I was his "motivation" to be better previously 🥴
Switzerland. The link with the credit for the picture is right there.
Load More Replies...It's also a form of narcissism- you are responsible for his moods. Nothing is ever his fault.
I went through a divorce like that. Red flags everywhere but when I left him he went off the deep end. Lawyers said I was a stabilizing force in his life. In other words I had to keep him on a tight rein to make sure he behaved. That is not a healthy relationship and it was exhausting. And scary after I walked away.
Sounds all too familiar..... makes planning family things much more difficult. Especially with a toddler....
Textbook manipulation? Gas lighting? We had to go through it way back when there was no name for it lol
Decisiveness. Started off great bc he made his mind up and was determined to follow through. Wasn't so great when he made life altering decisions without informing or including me in those decisions even though it would effect me and our relationship.
Wrong enemy here. It isn’t his decisiveness. It’s his selfishness. Making decisions without including relevant parties is an issue of being inconsiderate and selfish.
Yeah when trauma folks are so used to being on their own for glory or failure, they don’t tend to share their dreams with a partner. Then there’s just anxious control freaks (used to be me) who don’t trust others to remember all the details.
Load More Replies...Not decisive, selfish! Living this for the last 9 years and just recently realized that's what it truely is and that my thoughts or feelings do not really matter to him.
I'm being the proper word police here. The correct word would should be affect, not effect in the last sentence. There is a distinction. Please look it up. I see this way too often.
Yes, it's called moderation. Try not to nitpick for no reason.
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Not having male friends.
Learned by the end of it that they could see through his bs/ the “i just get along well with girls” was because he flirted his way into “friendships”.
Not sure I agree with this one. This is a time of shifting views on gender and if you don't match the stereotypes of your generation as a man, getting along better with women rather than men can't be exclusively attributed to being a player. And it could also be due to your line of work. Or the psychological challenges of your biography. I'd be careful to prematurely judge a man merely based on the fact of the majority gender among his friends, even if he's very successful at dating. Also, even if he flirted his way into friendships, if he's capable of maintaining them, that means you can read at least some platonic depth into them.
Yeah im trans and i have very few male friends because of transphobia. Most of my friends are girls from before my transition, and although I don't click with them the way I do with other guys, it's all I have
Load More Replies...I get along better with woman. Not because I’m trying to get into their pants, its because I‘m a pretty emotional man. Always have been. I’ve lots of male friends but my best friend is and probably always will be a woman.
...you can be friends with the opposite gender without dating them or flirting with them!
I was raised by 3 older sisters and I can tell you I get along better with women then I do with guys. Even to this day I don't have any male friends.
Eh. I get along far better with males in general. It's been difficult for me to maintain 'femme female' friendships - not sure if it's the females themselves or the unseen long term c**p that has molded many into certain behaviours. TRUST ME... none of my guy friends want aaaanything to do with me beyond friendship. I just find that they don't shun me for 'not speaking giggly and pretty'.
So many insincere / flirtatious fake male-female friendships. Hard pill to swallow clearly.
Talking down about his exes, he thought he was making me feel better by saying they weren’t as good as me, flawed, etc. eventually it just felt like woman hate. Not flattering and not fun to listen to!
No matter how they feel about their ex, if they're CONSTANTLY talking about them and/or comparing you to them, regardless if said comparisons are good or bad, they are absolutely NOT over their ex and you are therefore nothing more than a rebound. If you're cool with being a rebound, you do you, but know what you're getting yourself into. Relationships like this will not last.
My ex constantly talked down his ex wife (she's very different from me). I used to feel sorry for him, to have married such an awful woman, and I knew the things that happened then wouldn't happen with me. Of course now he says the same things about me.
Well, people who think highly of their exes ... don't have exes in the first place. The key question is "Will this information be useful to my new partner?"
This whole page is just people talking down about their exes... which makes this particular one ironic.
Being concientious with money. When every gift turns into a debate about how much it costs...
I spent too many years being told I wasted too much money on food.
so that's what Stephanie did huh? always wondered what you did.
Load More Replies...Wrong word - to be conscientious you think it through thoroughly to achieve the aim. If you have thought about it 'thoroughly' then it's the right gift at the right price. The word itself includes conscience, so maybe you mean miserly?
I get this one. The next thing you know are being abused financially. I saw it happen to a very close friend of mine. It went from "He's frugal," to him controlling all of the finances in the relationship and using money to control her.
I was in a relationship with someone who was adjusting to living with less money than he was accustomed to. He felt that money was meant to be spent and it caused a bunch of issues. I was used to living on less and I'll never forget when he scoffed at me and made me feel bad because I considered $4,000 to be a lot of money. We broke up for other reasons but it never would never worked out anyway, with our different financial views.
That's not conscientious (not sure either of us spelled that correctly), that's stingy. If your partner meters out affection by the penny, not worth dealing with them IMO.
Guys who make their whole personality revolve around their hobbies like anime, gaming, and science stuff. There is nothing wrong with having hobbies like that, but at the same time be more open-minded to learn new things and other experiences. I dated one and it didn’t get so far, couldn’t hold a conversation well if it wasn’t about his hobbies and interests. He also was a people pleaser which annoyed me very much.
I think the issue here wasn't about the specific interests, but more about being unable to hold a conversation about anything else.
But what if you really don't have other interests? Atleast not the ones the other has.
Load More Replies...YES. At least try to find a way to turn that into a successful career. I love when people love what they do. You hear about the people who becomes millionaires on youtube or through gaming. I'm all for it! I know people get down on 'influencers' but -hey, if you can make money, go for it. But when your hobby causes you to have issues keeping a job, taking care of your hygiene, you ignore your children or you let go of a good relationship because you won't make time...that's not a hobby that's a fetish. It's an addiction. And it's not healthy.
Idk why people hate on gaming YouTubers so much. 'Why would you want to watch someones play a game?' Dude you literally religiously watch football how is that any different.
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poor education.
seemed like no big deal, he was able to provide, he did well in life. But that lack of quality conversation was just so boring
This exactly. I worked with PhDs who were brilliant in their field of study but may as well been high-school dropouts in any other topic.
Load More Replies...Sometimes lack of education is due to a learning disability that was never diagnosed or life's circumstances. I will never hold a lack of education against someone who got there by no fault of their own.
Even if you knew it would result in a failed relationship and waste your partner's time? Sometimes it's best to be realistic about what you can or can't live with.
Load More Replies...A lack of formal education doesn't have to mean boring or ignorant or lacking anything to say.
You don't need 'education' to be interested in everything around you or to be intelligent. How many girls are denied 'education' in some countries - does that make them boring, or unable to have a highfalutin conversation with someone?
Education can be got no matter your age. That he's ignorant, well we all start there. But if he's showing no interest in educating himself and wants to stay ignorant -- that can be an issue
You cannot educate yourself. That's what libraries are for. Intelligence is key.
Yeah... the frustration of the "I don't have enough interest in anything to be curious about f-- all" ... I might as well have gotten a pet fish??? I'd say it's definitely more the lack of inquisitiveness - as in the COMPLETE lack. Education can be hindered by many things out of their control... but the drive to learn more is in no one's power but their own.
lack of education doesn't mean lack of intelligence, it might mean lack of opportunity. My father is highly educated, and one of his closest friends barely graduate high-school (circumstances beyond his control), he was one of the most intelligent men we knew, he took a lot of on the job training (blue collar), but if you didn't have the smarts for it, no amount of training would get you through the courses. He also had a lot of life intelligence, and saw no shame in having dirt under his nails.
Name calling others within earshot. Then turned into name calling straight to my face and in front of other. Started out as just a frustration thing. Became abusive language once they got too comfortable. HAD to cut the string loose. Unfortunately ended in me being battered and bruised.
Sorry for what happened to you and I hope everything goes well after you got out of a toxic relationship.
Disputatiousness. At first it felt like fun banter, but after a few years it was exhausting how he ALWAYS had to be right. Couldn’t even have minor disagreements like who the actor in a movie was without it becoming a whole thing, never mind if I we actually needed to discuss something serious.
ohhh... you mean the "Everything you say shall now be an opening to A DEBATE!" - no... no ... I just wanted to know if you wanted like... pasta or burgers tonight?
I mean, was he always right when the debates were on facts? Kidding. Seems like he either didn’t value her intelligence and opinion or maybe doesn’t value anyone’s.
I told my ex husband of 34 years, “you can be right all the time if you want to but you’ll end up being alone.” His adult sons haven’t spoken to him in a decade. Neither have I.
Mind this behaviour is not just a man’s issue, I know quite a few women like that, besides same woman are so contrary that if you agree with them, they reverse their opinions.
thinks the fact that he’s been to therapy gives him the corner market on every emotional issue. i guess the personality trait would be “self awareness”, and i say it in quotes because there were still glaring emotional issues he had but since he’d been to ✨therapy✨ he thought he could do no wrong. he would yell and jump to conclusions and make ad hominem attacks and then immediately back track and think that was the pinnacle of self awareness. like back tracking on your abuse immediately is something that is impressive or should be revered. i wanted to be like “bro, you know there’s an option where you just act like an adult instead of blowing up and then apologizing immediately right??”
Where do these fu*kers come from? They have nest under the city or what?
"They have nest under the city or what?" Love it! I am so going to use that some time!
Load More Replies...Speaking as someone who has been in therapy for the past 1 1/2 years and counting (I actually have an appointment today), this dude DESPERATELY needs more therapy. Like, a LOT more.
I want more but they don’t know what to do for me. Been to 5
Load More Replies...Spend some time w/ a sociopath & you'll find they'll apply the tenets of any therapy, program, religion,etc to everyone else except them. This is a common way they manipulate & a way they can reinforce their need to feel superior &/or smarter than the rest of us. Run through fire if need be, just run.
Yeeeah.. since they think they went part-way (noticing/backtracking abuse) they think they're 'done'. Never occurs to them that there is always more to learn... liiiike maaaaybe... NOT being abusive in the first place? OOooooH concept!!!
Their relationship with their mother (not exactly a personality trait but kind of). My mom always told me, "How he treats his mom is how he'll treat you" and while I definitely want a guy who respects his mother, I think her perspective is an outdated, traditionalist way of looking at things. I have known plenty of guys who seemed to just really love and appreciate and be close with their moms at first and I thought, "Aw so sweet, he must be a good guy," and then I find out they don't know how to cook/clean/do laundry/take care of themselves as adults and not only that, but don't plan on ever learning and instead expect the women they're in a relationship with to do all that stuff and basically be their mothers so they never have to grow up. These people also can be bad at talking about serious stuff, or refuse to take accountability for their actions because their mothers to this day tell them nothing is their fault. The worst one fit that description but on top of alllll that, still cuddled/spooned with his mom in bed at age 22 (while facetiming me and letting his mom read a private letter from me over his shoulder as I sat there in awkward silence) and had sex dreams about her but didn't find it weird. I still love guys who love their moms, but I am also very wary now because sometimes when they love them a *certain* way it comes along with some devastating emotional immaturity.
This one is very creepy. Not just a red flag but a long string of red bunting. Run.
I dated a man who would say, you remind me of my mother, I was flattered and I thought it was a keeper. He adored his mother deeply after all. - It was the worst breakup you could imagine. Oh wait, he didn't even tell me it was over. I had to make that phonecall. Plus I found out he walked over several other girls the same year: irresponsible and not giving a duck. He just knew what buttons to push!
I had a friend that was very invested/dedicated. At first, I thought this was a good personality trait, but it ended up being suffocating. She would constantly refer to me as her “best friend” even though she wasn’t mine. She made very territorial social media posts about how I was her “best friend in the entire world.” If I hung out with other friends, that she didn’t even know, she would get annoyed that she wasn’t invited. If I wanted to spend my free time alone, with my husband, with other people, etc. she would take it personally and make comments about it. She was jealous with the amount of time I hung out with my husband and said it “wasn’t fair” and that I “treated her differently” than I treat him (obviously).
Sounds like someone might be queer and not know it. If they weren't like this towards anyone else but OP, then that lady had some complicated feelings going on that she might not understand or be aware of to even begin trying to unpack them.
Agreed, you may have unwittingly entered an unspoken and underground relationship with this woman - this is a bad mix, to put it delicately.
Load More Replies...I had a friend who started in with the jealousy attitude. Turns out she was WAY more into me than I realized. Tried to sabotage my marriage, other friendships, etc and just basically became really obsessive. I may have short hair and broad shoulders, but that does not a lesbian make. I tried to make it clear to her that I was NOT interested in her sexually (but of course, I was just in denial). The final straw came when I realized she had somehow gotten into my fully fenced and private back yard. I had to file a restraining order against her change my phone number and block her on social media. Freaky as hell.
Well, that's one of the problems in these 'social media' times. Everyone knows what everyone else is doing (hey, caught your pic of that meal at the restaurant, or, I see you were on a date) If you don't plonk it all on media for people to see, then they will never know what you were doing last Friday evening (or day) and that suits me just fine. 'Friends' can't moan if they don't see something to moan about.
Frugality. It seemed awesome because he was super careful with money. But in the end he never likes to spend money on ANYTHING. Even things that mattered to me (e.g bday dinner).
Sounds like he was being CHEAP, not frugal. There is a difference between the two terms. Cheap is choosing to spend the least amount of money at all times, even if the cheaper option is way worse in quality. Frugal means weighing your options, and spending more money for better quality, so that item wil last longer than the cheap option. Being frugal is is better than being cheap! There is no point in being alive if you can't allow yourself to buy anything that matters to you or your loved ones, every once in a while. You deserved better than that, sweetie!
Judicious money management (instead of blowing it all on things like video games and barhopping) can be a good thing, but can be taken to unhealthy extremes.
Control. Needing to control certain things or their anxiety goes wild. I have anxiety and understand the why but at the end of the day the why is never acceptable. You cannot control most things in life and the overwhelming need to do so always leads to worse things.
Often a "need for control" comes from experiences of being bullied and/or high anxiety or fear. Getting professional help to process these experiences and to become more grounded and secure is very important.
An excellent point. Making the connection between "control" or "perfectionism" to "fear" and "anxiety" is huge.
Load More Replies...People who grow up in very chaotic homes sometimes have an excessive need to control everything.
This is fact. Being powerless as a child in an abusive situation leads to a need to be able to create one's own safe space once the possibility exists to do so.
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His quiet and unassuming personality, which I found endearing at first, ended up being what drove me away. The man rarely had an opinion or a comment on anything, then if he did? It was always negative.
My ex was like this, never had an opinion and it was so annoying. When I wanted to discuss something that went wrong, it mostly turned into me adressing it and him just sitting there quietly, not answering at all. In the end, I decided I wanted a partner and not a dog who just follows me around (well I want both actually, but not in the same person) so I broke it off.
I’m somewhat ignorant on the topic but doesn’t this sound like some form of depression?
Being religious. CrisisDancing added: I agree. You may think it is ok to have different religious views however…wait until kids come into the picture…then it is game on. Have those conversations first.
I noticed my ex would have extremely severe reactions when he’d be watching sports, and his teams that he rooted for lost. Didn’t seem like that big of a deal at first, but he easily became unhinged over the littlest things. Later his outbursts became harder to hide, and I found myself walking on eggshells a lot around him. The abuse was more noticeable then.
I once worked with a woman who volunteered at a domestic violence hotline in Green Bay. She told me that all of the volunteers dreaded the days that the Packers had a game, because they knew that if the Packers lost the number of calls would skyrocket.
Some people have a serious emotional attachment to sports. It's a little crazy. Ryan Hamilton the comedian has a bit talking about how he had a friend whose team won a championship and he told Ryan that he had some weird prayer ritual that he did before the game where he individually prayed for every member of the team and truly believes that his personal intent toward the team winning made it happen. Ryan was like....dude, you're on your 3rd divorce, you live in a basement etc. Maybe you should be praying for some other stuff right now. But some people just have emotional meltdowns when it comes to 'their teams'. It's like religion and they think they have some kind of connection with the players that they don't. Like celebrity obsession or something. Very weird!
UK is a 'football' country, and research has shown so many times, that during events like the world cup, domestic violence increases logarithmically.
My guy is a very mild mannered person until we watch football. He gets so mad if they lose. Always yelling at the tv no matter how his team plays. It was funny at first to see him act like that but now it sometimes turns into a fight over nothing because his team is losing. It’s just a game bro.
Yes! It's for entertainment, not for living vicariously or getting angry about!
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If YOU really loved me you wouldn't give me an ultimatum just to get your way.
Teasing. it seems so funny and cute and, “oh wow we have banter” but it can be a pre cursor to something worse.
Being goal oriented. My ex had a lot of goals and seems to want to be in a long-term relationship with someone. One of the problems I’ve found is that he hasn’t thought about how having a partner may affect those plans. It was his way or the highway and if you talked about a future that didn’t align with what he wanted/imagined, you were the enemy. Lots of men seem to think they need to accomplish X, Y, Z, before they settle down. Which is fine, per se, but in the meantime they need to recognize they probably don’t want something serious. They want a partner that lines up with the future they envision, but they’re not ready for her. Granted I’ve come to the conclusion that he just didn’t want *me*, but it’s all the same. I believe in building a future together so there’s balance. No one should have to fit into their partner’s plan, they should *be* a part of it.
Being goal oriented can be ok. It’s being goal dependant that’s the real problem. If one’s sense of accomplishment depends on X, Y, Z, then one is sure to be disappointed. There are too many variables in life to not allow for alternative goals and plans B & C & D.
Telling me all of his ex’s businesses. I was young and thought I was special. Now he’s telling every female he messes with, my business.
I have the opposite problem. Mine wants to hear alllllll about my past loves. Look. They were nice; I wasn't abused: it just didn't work out. The rest is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Having a "laid back look on life. After a while, it becomes clear this person don't have any goals or desires in life. It gets boring and i start losing my respect for our relationship.
Looking back, I realise I never had any goals other than having me and the people around me being happy and healthy. I looked at most of the goals other people had and so many were career orientated or unrealistic personal ( married by 25 kid by 30) goals. It always seemed so " hamster wheelish".
All the "goals and desires" I can think of are cliches that don't really apply to me. I don't want children, I don't want status or some fairy tale castle. My "relationship goals" are to be happy, healthy, and supportive. There doesn't need to be a goal to reach.
Poor money management. Not everything is about money, but if you can't afford to support yourself while also somehow being able to afford frivolous "wants", then that's a no-go. I will not be your stand-in mom and take care of you if you're capable of doing so yourself, just because you can't prioritize where your money goes.
Yes. Everyone makes mistakes. But hopefully you learn from them. You're not only doing yourself a disservice but you're doing your future and anyone you invite into it a disservice by unloading a huge amount of debt onto their lives, too. But I understand how hard it can be. Especially when your mindset is that you can't get out of it or that you 'might as well have fun' since you feel like you don't make enough to save.
Knowledgeable. I loved it at first but he grew to be condescending. My friends hated him for it cuz he'd always initiate arguments. "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story" is something I learned. He ended up being a huge liar.
Having an underlying victim mindset. At first you empathize with them for their struggles and misfortune, but soon realize that people truly believe the world is out to get them regardless of the actual situation. It turns your relationship into a constant source of negative energy and breeds codependency.
I agree and for a long time I thought that way. A few years back something finally clicked in my brain that even if something horrible happened, even if things aren't great, no matter what it is, you can't expect that your *feeling* about your situation is going to do anything to control or *change* it. You feelings also don't change what's happening externally. So if the situation isn't changing and something feels unfair, you have to change yourself to adapt because there's no amount of waiting around for it to be different that will make it so. So I could complain and maybe be right in some ways, or I could let go of that and make my life better. You might be absolutely right about the situation itself, but sitting in that bucket where you just talk about it and never make any efforts to change it eventually is partly your fault. I understand some people deal with very serious emotional issues but if you have enough sense to talk about them on social media, then you have enough sense to ask for help or to try and get advice on how to move forward or change it. If you choose not to, there's a point where you have to admit to yourself that it's simply easier to complain about it than to do the work it will take to change it. It doesn't necessarily apply to all situations of course, but a lot of times it is.
My husband's line is, "Why did you make me ---------?" Fill in the blank with something that has NOTHING to do with me.
Care and concern — I shared private past traumas with him, and that turned out to be the information he used against me to try and break me down and make me feel incompetent when I called him out on blatantly questionable behaviors of his later on.
There's a limit to kindness I can take. I have been learning not to people please but my husband still does because he wants to be kind. I love how kind he is (one of the reasons I married him) but he picks the worst people to be kind too and even when I tell him it's a bad idea he feels he has to do it anyways. Which has left us short on money and time a few times. Today it lead to us being short a microwave.
I hear you loud and clear. Kindness is a wonderful and much valued trait, but there have to be limits. (Am I my brother's keeper? Yes, within limits)
When I read this I laughed because I feel the same way. I grew up in the northeast in Massachusetts, USA. And people there are just grumpier. So being around super nice people all the time makes me feel like I live in some Stepford place or I get paranoid and wonder why someone is being so nice. I moved to Arizona for a job and I honestly couldn't take how happy and nice everyone was. I swear it's just the sunny-all-the-time weather. I had a horrible thought that I could easily swindle so many people if I was that kind of person because everyone was way too happy and trustworthy.
The always trying to make someone laugh trait. It’s like okay … everything doesn’t have to be humorous 24/7. It becomes annoying after a certain point.
This is usually a sign of something much deeper. Extreme insecurity as a result of being raised in an abusive/neglectful environment and just wanting to both feel and be liked. Either way, they should probably try to work on themselves first, before getting into a relationship.
Debbie downers. Look I haven't had the greatest life ever but f**k man at least I'm *trying* to make it better instead of sitting around and feeling sorry for myself. Especially when you have people trying to help you too. At some point you're gonna have to want to do better for yourself too
I have a friend like this, I have for 17 years. I can only stand to be around her for a couple of hours at a time. She talks NON STOP about the same problems as fast as she can until I leave. I try to get a word in once in a while to give advice to her endless problem parade, and she dismisses it by saying "I could never do that."
Not being able to make decisions. It always kinda annoyed me that he had no opinion on what he wanted to eat or watch. But someday when he met someone he was interested in and the time came to choose between me and her, he had no idea how to choose. That’s when I realised I had to make all the decisions, all the time. I even had to make the decision to end our relationship because he wasn’t able to choose.
Indecision can be a sign of abuse as a child. Every choice I made when I was younger was a reason for my mother to lash out at me later so I became afraid of making a decision. I've spent most of my adult life working on getting better but it can be a difficult trait to break.
No follow through on anything. It doesn’t even have to be with big things like career etc. I had an ex that would constantly spend money on a new hobby and I would be very supportive of him getting into it because I wanted him to have things outside of me. But after the initial interest he never stuck with it and it was frustrating to watch. I feel like he used me as an excuse for it because I’m disabled and at that time was especially ill and needed a lot of help from him, but the reality was I wanted him to go out and do things without me sometimes. I ended up feeling like I had to be constantly encouraging him to continue things he actually enjoyed when he got into them, and that was exhausting. He was a lovely guy, but I could never do that again. I’m very driven and it’s too exasperating to be around someone who is the opposite.
This sounds like a red flag to me, tbh. Reading between the lines a bit here, but basically this guy was being a caretaker, and she either wanted space or wanted to feel less guilty about it so pushed him to do other things with his time. So now she's asking him to do two things to keep her happy. If he was fine focusing his energy on giving care when it was needed, let the guy do that. It's a hard thing to do and people direct their energy how they need to. It takes a lot of drive to care for someone - just because it's not drive in the way she identifies with it doesn't make it less valid.
it should appear that the phrase "opposites attract" is not necessarily true
My ex was always coming up with ideas to make money, or new career etc. I would encourage him and it would always fizzle out. I think he was just scared to get out of the rut
Being “too woke for a joke.” I say this as a leftist and as someone who has dedicated my life to activism. Of course at first it seems great to have someone so sensitive and conscious and ethical by your side. But, if you cannot understand other points of view or simply lighten the eff up every now and again, or understand the emotional context of someone’s words, you are not progressive, you are a buzzkill and thought policing. My ex found a way to make everything negative, political, or downright depressing. He was an improv teacher. One of his students was in an improv scene where one student said “Hey my dude, stop twirling your beard,” and the other student said “No I don’t have a beard, I’m clearly a woman!” And instead of stopping the scene for breaking improv rules, he stopped it for being “transphobic.” I was told this by a student who had no clue the teacher was my boyfriend. This was in a major metropolitan city where we all clearly have friends of every background, and it was fair to say everyone in that improv community was progressive or unproblematic. Of course when I met him we were on the same page ethics wise and politically but the longer we were together the more I wondered if he was feeding a negative aspect of positive beliefs if that makes sense.
I think there are some people who just like having a legit reason to criticise others and feel superior, rather than actually holding the values they tout or being interested in improving the world.
Yes, there always people like that - on every side. Equally unfortunately, there are people who will marginalize those who work for social justice by labeling them "woke", "social justice warrior", "politically correct", :bleeding heart", and terms Bored Panda won't let me post.
Load More Replies...I totally get what your saying. I say that as a bi-sexual woman whose 2 best friends are also transgender. They're the first ones to be annoyed by the over-correction some people have. It's a comedy show- it's going to be offensive and funny and silly. If you have any kind of fragile sensibilities that's not the place for you. Sometimes there are legit reasons to look at something and say, 'hey there is a historic pattern of horrific abuse/horribleness/etc to something and maybe making a joke about it, while legal, still is a jerk thing to do'. There's also an intent- if the guy had said 'I have a beard because unlike you i'm not a f*g you tranny!' or something equally horrible, okay I'd say lets put a stop to that. It had a way different intonation. I definitely am tired of the way people insert their own narrative into some things when the intent wasn't that at all. It's also horrible for your own metal health to always be in a place where you are looking for a fight.
Oh h*ll yeah (from someone who would change her username to TofuEatingWokerata for this post if she could)
The more difficult your job (think medics) the more you need dark humour to survive....
Saying yes to everything and everyone. At first it’s really cool when someone has done so much and has so many connections and friends. But then they seem to lack appropriate boundaries, have a hard time saying no to others, and don’t know how to prioritize you or your relationship. It’s ok to say no to invites, it’s ok to say no to people hitting on you (no they’re not just being friendly/networking), you won’t be disappointing anyone, you’re not suddenly an introvert or a hermit. You’re a person in a romantic relationship.
This one hits on so many points, and it applies to women as well as men.
Why do us guys always get sh it on when we have no clue that we are being hit on?
Wanting to have everyone like them. My ex did this at my expense, giving away my stuff, paying for other people’s bills etc. funny thing was that he used to complain about his dad doing the exact same thing to his family and putting them into hardship.
Overexcitable people, it’s great until they are constantly cutting you off or yelling over you and show little to no interest in your life but the world is ending if you aren’t as excited for them as them.
Passive aggressive b******t. He would never take a stance on anything, so he could blame everyone else if it went sideways. Silent treatment and wouldn’t say what the issue was. Questions regarding why I needed to wear makeup to work. _All_ of these things happened very gradually over 20 years, so I wasn’t that aware, but I woke up one day, looked in the mirror and said to myself, “No. More.” I had become a blithering idiot. That was 10 years ago, and after several years of therapy I am the person I was before I met him.
Codependency.
He was too chill, always wanted to go with the flow. he wanted to stay inside almost every time we hung out. towards the end, we basically stopped talking to each other altogether and would only really do our own thing but near each other and then take breaks where we talk and cuddle. which was super nice sometimes, but it got old eventually. it felt like we went from dating to just being friends without saying anything about it.
Being a 'freespirit' a.k.a a rebel. That s**t starts to get dumb asf when you want to be an adult & actually be responsible for your life. It's even more pathetic when they hit their 30s, lose their hair, their looks & become fat asf yet still want to rebel against everyone & everything plus be centre of attention. You begin to question why they're holding onto their earlier prime years, not doing anything about their fast fading looks, their mediocre life & still expect to be centre of attention 🤷♀️ Who & what are they fighting for? Like grow tf up 🙄
If someone feels compulsive and urgent need to do things, that will make them "feel free" they are in fact not free at all.
Whilst I understand the sentiment, according to you, it's only fat, balding people who have this issue. Cast the net wider please....
I especially hate those people who act like this than judge people who are not like them. Sorry, Karen, i understand you think people who don't travel all the time are dumb but we don't all have a husband who makes 3mill a year who can support us to do that. Or we don't ask for donations on patreon to fund our travel blog and then cry when we can't afford to continue not working and living that free spirit life. Free Spirit usually means someone else is paying for your free life. I also hate people who think because they dress differently or listen to a certain type of music, etc, that it makes them somehow more unique than everyone else. There are probably a million people just like you out there.
Being too focused on money. While it's good to be financially stable, it doesn't make up for having a healthy family and good social life. I tend to work a lot to help investing in my future however I would like to share my investments (at least some of it lol) with friends and/or a partner. If the person is not as considerate then they get the boot.
Logic. He was completely unable to empathize with anyone. Unless the answers could be cemented, there was no path forward. The inability to understand how someone feels and how that affects decisions, judgments, life. It's very difficult to have a relationship with someone who can't see outside their own box.
my father was like this, a very analytical man but if something got emotional he would bring up statistics and such
Guys who think their opinions / preferences are always harmless / valid “Well I (don’t) like it” doesn’t mean the thing is OK or harmless All actions have consequences, just because you think something is fine doesn’t mean it actually is
Passiveness. Turns out they were passive about everything including what they wanted for their future, career, money, etc. There wasn’t one thing in their life that they desired for themselves.
Confidence can very easily turn into condescension and that quickly seeps into all interactions and builds animosity.
True and robust confidence is usually non-toxic. It's not always trivial to tell apart true confidence from brittle egotism. When online dating, I used to taunt guys to find out how they'd react. I developed quite a keen sense for "fake egos" and could tell them apart from "shiny genuine egos" most of the time. When I found a particular toxic specimen, I am not ashamed to say, I used my powers for evil and humiliated them into silence. To avoid confidence altogether is a mistake imho. What is more sexy than confidence?
P*rn consumption.
Consuming porn is not always a problem. It's when porn consumes you.
Personally, I think this depends. And it's more about your own feelings about it and being with someone who respects that. I don't mind a guy looking at porn, especially if it's us together watching it. There's some great fun stuff out there that isn't super disrespectful. Gay porn in particular can be really...I almost want to say sweet. Guys like each other no matter what they look like. Fat? Just more to love. Hairy? Come on over you big bear. Old? Show me some stuff old-timer. But there's a fine line between looking at a sexy video for fun and porn addiction where you can't even be with someone because it's not freaky enough to get you going with a real woman, or they are watching seriously messed up stuff where the girl dresses up like a kid or she's being degraded. Those are the ones that make me angry. Like one of the top searches is 'barely legal' or in gay porn it's 'twink teen' or something. What is with needing to have children to make you feel less inferior?
Always being the loudest. Like needing to Always be right and have the last word. At a point it becomes a bickering match and I'm not here for it. This is for friendships too
I have a dog that always has to have the last word. Drives me nuts.
Picky eater. I begin to resent you for it. I think its incredibly immature and childish.
Picky eating is often rooted in childhood anxiety, it might not be something you can just change or improve at will, and it's not necessarily immature or childish. I am a picky eater (in my early 50s), but I try to lessen the impact on others by finding at least one thing to eat at any restaurant or social function. As long as I'm not being rude or selfish, my lack of desire to try new foods does not actually affect anyone else.
I'll admit i am a picky eater, and mostly it was because the food didn't agree with me. found out later in life i have diverticulitis, may have IBS...so the food i was picky for, was stuff that didn't make me feel sick. I've added lots of food to my repertoire, as long as they don't have the illness triggers. Not all of us are trying to be difficult or acting childish.
I've never understood why people feel like they have to make me try different things. I have a lot of food allergies and have to be super careful. But i've had people bully me to get me to 'just try' something new. Don't just what I eat (or don't eat), and I won't judge what you eat or don't eat. Should be that simple.
It's quite possible to 'change' this. Gradually introducing foods they 'can't eat' (obviously not allergies) and add some kind of sauce and they will hardly know they are eating something outside their usual range. It is what we do with children every day.......
Being a 'hustler' or glorifying 'the grind'. There will ALWAYS be a next thing to focus on, and it won't be the relationship.
He was really social and likeable, he always knew what to say in every situation… turns out that he knew what to say to manipulate every situation and person too:D
Always want to text or talk on the phone. Was talking to a guy once and he would want to text 24x7. Nah bro i need some space
I was dating a dude who would start verbally harassing me if I didn't respond in 5 minutes, I was in school at the time and often needed to focus on my classes
high productivity. It's great you have a job, many friends and a lot of interests and that you occupy your whole week doing so. But then, with that panorama, what time do you have left to build a relationship based on love with me? if you can't juggle your productivity, into making space for me, then there's no way I could be with you
My ex really liked helping people, but it came in the form of being a know-it-all. He always gave unsolicited advice and would get so mad at me when I didn’t take it, especially if I told him I really wasn’t looking for advice and sometimes I just need to vent. He would literally cry and tell me that I’m trying to repress who he is as a person. Which I guess is a life coach?? It took me an embarrassingly long time to dump him over this. It drove me f*****g crazy.
For me to let her have that time. Now, years later she is the same and her fiance doesn't get that about her even after being with her for over 9 years. He expects an answer immediately and refuses to let her gather her thoughts and think about her answer. Instead he refuses to give her the space to do that and constantly expects her to reply or react immediately. He just doesn't get that she needs that time.
Another thing to know going into a relationship. If you tell me something and I need to think about it first before replying, give me the space to do that instead of demanding an answer right away. My eldest daughter is like that and has been that way her whole life. One day she came to visit me and was very upset and shut herself in the bathroom crying. I knew that she needed time to think things through and let her do that. My visitors were very angry with me that I didn't go in immediately to talk to her. I told them I would do that but she needed a few minutes to gather her thoughts. I was told off by them for the next 15 before I made a cup of tea and went into the bathroom and gave my daughter her cup of tea. She had calmed down and had time to put her thoughts in order enough to be able to talk about it. When we came out of the bathroom she was calm and felt much better. My visitors were shocked that 1,id left her for 15 minutes by herself and 2, that it was the right decision
I've worked out what I meant with this. Going into a relationship I would say at the beginning of talking that I'd like help with a decision or that I just needed to vent about the issue and didn't need a fix. So my partner knew what I needed from a conversation. He'd look at me and knew I needed to talk and he would say, do you just need me to vent or do you need help or a fix? Then it's much easier to know what to do. You want to vent? Sure, tell me everything and I'll be there for you and listen. You need help with a decision or a fix? Sure, I can help you with that.
Being too much of a giver. At one point it was only one sided.
Not enough info. Giving too much to others so there's not enough for your own situation and thus making your situation worse, or being embarrassed to be always receiving while unable to reciprocate? Could be either or both. In any case, the person giving obviously thinks this is how you buy love and attention.
In my relationship it's working out, because we are both givers, so we receive just as much as we give.
Load More Replies...He didn’t like that I dyed my hair. Turns out he had problems with basically everything about me.
Lying by omission. Like no I definitely don’t need or want to know everything. But somehow all those pertinent details always get left out. I wonder why lol
Being a pushover. It was all fine and dandy at first, but being with someone who doesn't voice their own opinions or disagree with you *ever* is really boring and tiring.
All the onus of the relationship is then on you, so if things go wrong, it's obviously someone else's fault.....
Oversharing! At first I thought it was great because I thought he was super open to talking about things (especially his past). Turns out he was a pathological liar who did that to make himself seem convincing when he'd lie to me about things that had happened.
His focus on mental health. He ended up blaming me for all his mental health problems (I was not the cause) even though it turned out he was the one cheating
Clinginess.
Might be cute for the beginning but turns out really stressfull if you can't have a day for yourself like for the whole relationship.
Calls, uninvited visits etc
Can Start really nice as a sign of "I think about you/care for you" but can also be a Flag it might be a control freak. At least if you tell them to don't come over this day/weekend whatever and they eventually come over. Or if they call you constantly while they know you don't have time at this moment.
Wanting to live together, decorate your flat
After being in the relationship for a while yeah why not discussing These topics.
But if you're just together for a short time or clearly stated you don't want one of these or nether of both.... and constantly bringing up these topics. Or even starting to tell you how you have to arrange furniture or what you can buy and what not
“Not being good with emotions” At first that was okay, I thought that he would learn to understand. But it got to the point where I would try to communicate what I was feeling. Or communicate why I was upset and he then saw me as “too emotional” and that led to a break up.
Wanting to turn everything into a debate, wanting to win every debate! Sometimes it’s not about whether you’re right or wrong. All that matters is how you s/o is feeling!
"He really values his friends. How nice it is to be surrounded by a close knit group." Yeah, except it was at my expense 🙃
Always posting everything we do on social media. Turns out he was more in move with his image.
Laziness and agreeability as well. I thought I wanted to date someone lazier than me so I could learn how to relax better, but in reality I’m a very high energy person who wants someone to burn that energy with. And I want that person to think of things for us to do, that we both like. Not just me whose bored and says let’s do something, and he says “like what?” I want spontaneous conversations and activities.
Reminds me of the Disney 'Jungle Book' the 4 liverpudlian vultures on a wire (John, Paul, George and Ringo) "I'm bored! What do you want to do' I dunno, what do you want to do?" ad infinitum.
Silence, thought it was cute and they were more reserved. We moved fast, then he talked non stop, and it was the most mind blowing ridiculous stuff that came out. Why Pluto is a moon, thinking Indiana license plates were India plates and the passengers were from India (we live in the US), vouching that you can see babies inside pregnant women’s bellies with a flashlight. Yeah no I couldn’t do it, and yes he was serious, and he was 24-26. It lasted a little too long, and by the end I was worried I might die if ever in a serious situation by a well intentioned but horrible way he’d think to go about it. Oh and angry passion on topics. Liked that he actually cared about things and over looked the kind of scary angry side of it. Yeah… turned out he can get that angry about anything, and has a bad temper problem, which isn’t fun if we have an argument over drinks. He’s working hard on it now but, yeah don’t ignore the angry red flag. I guess at least I can have a conversation 95% of the time though.
speaking without thinking
Me...I asked my partner what 30% of 100 was. As soon as I finished my sentence, i said never mind.. My mouth is faster than my brain is. I like being just as surprised as anyone else by what comes outta my mouth.
Being “silly and goofy”. It was endearing at first but got to the point where sustaining any conversation outside of superficial topics was incredibly difficult. He could never be serious. I got the ick real quick.
This may not be in the realm of personality, but food preference. I like variety and spicy and if someone won't go out of their comfort zone and try something new or a new cuisine, I'm out - great sex be damned.
Wanting to be fun and entertaining. All the time. It came to the point where it seemed like silence was the enemy, we couldn’t even watch a 24-minute episode of a show in peace without him trying to start a conversation. If he couldn’t think of anything he’d just start saying senseless gibberish thinking it was “so funny and random.”
Being philosophical. I loved his philosophical mind, but in a relationship he took it to the extreme and wasn't able to see the practical ramifications of things and would get stymied in deciding how to act.
Not being possessive of me or feeling jealousy in any way. Thought it was cool until it became clear he actually wants to be non-monogamous and get with a limitless number of women (he would want the same for me but that’s not what I’m about).
I find it disturbing how many people believe that possessiveness and jealousy are actually positive traits. No. Not even a little.
I get what your saying and I know how some people will take it to be unhealthy. But there is something to be said for wanting to know that the person you're with is a little bit possessive of you or that they don't want to share you. To know that they're passionate about you and would feel some kind of fear of losing you. I was with someone who was like, "you can leave any time. No one is holding you here," and when I told her that it made me feel like I was nothing to her, she tried to explain it to me as if it was a good thing. Yeah, okay, I'm free to do what I want and we don't hold each other down and we're under no obligation to be with each other or stay in a relationship if we aren't happy. Great. But I don't want to feel like it wouldn't matter to you if I left.
You can actually eat the cake and have it too. It's rare and it takes a ton of work in communication (verbal and non-verbal), respect, social and emotional intelligence, maturity, selfconfidence on both sides, but it is possible: To feel both passionately loved, desired, admired, and free to f**k anyone else you truly want or to leave even.
Load More Replies...Availability Luckily I saw it very fast for what it was soon after - that he was very underemployed & not a good father to his children
Constantly referencing themselves in every situation.
Not wanting to talk every day. That's perfectly okay for some people, but for me I like to be in contact with my SO as much as possible.
Reserved...turned into boring.
Yeah, when I meet a quiet person, I tend to project all kinds of depth and interesting stuff that must be hiding inside. And I like the idea of being the key that unlocks that treasure chest. So it's really all about me, not about them. In reality, sometimes a quiet person does have a lot of interesting stuff to share, but it's their choice when and with whom they want to share it. And sometimes they're quiet because they really just don't have anything going on inside. There's just no "there" there.
Being an introvert. Thought it would be fine if we both just had our own time to do what we want, but it turned into me resenting being her only person she was close to, and her resenting me going out and having a big circle of friends. Wasn't a constant issue but would come up every time we disagreed about something. Edit: constant, not contact
This article has every personality trait. Some of them opposites. Decisiveness and indecisiveness, reserved and high energy, introvert and extrovert. I have learned two things: everyone has different preferences and that everything should be in moderation.
It's more watching for people who ALWAYS have to make the final decision, or NEVER make a decision, etc... Everyone has moments but it's when people are consistently showing a personality trait.
Load More Replies...If all the people who hated laziness traded with the people who didn't like productivity we could cut this list by half
Every pot has its lid. A lot of what I read seem to be personnality traits that don't work together. (Agree, some other points on this list are real red flags). And finding the good person can take some time. You make "mistakes" along the way, think someone is made for you when really they're not. It doesn't mean they (or you) are bad people. Just that you don't work as a couple. I think the biggest mistake is not to date "outside of your style", because sometimes it surprising how well some couple work even if the partners are really different. Not, the mistake is to perservere in a relationship that doesn't work hoping that it'll eventually do. Nobody changes radically. Sure, you can work on some traits, but you'll always be more or less the same person. Same for your partner. So don't waste time with someone if it doesn't work.
This is a very depressing article... Why bother dating, I'll be never good enough.
The hiding insults behind "calm down, I'm just joking". This my father, who I see like once a decade because he does this. Last time I visited after not seeing him for years, his first words were essentially "jeez, Jay, you got fat." And then when I get annoyed get told he's just joking. What's the joke then? What a coward.
I learned that those who hate making decisions should date the controlling people.😁
I think ot all boils down to balance. A good example is showing emotion: he cried when his dog died? Understandable. That's fine. But crying every day over something? Not okay. We want sensitive. But balance it out.
This article has every personality trait. Some of them opposites. Decisiveness and indecisiveness, reserved and high energy, introvert and extrovert. I have learned two things: everyone has different preferences and that everything should be in moderation.
It's more watching for people who ALWAYS have to make the final decision, or NEVER make a decision, etc... Everyone has moments but it's when people are consistently showing a personality trait.
Load More Replies...If all the people who hated laziness traded with the people who didn't like productivity we could cut this list by half
Every pot has its lid. A lot of what I read seem to be personnality traits that don't work together. (Agree, some other points on this list are real red flags). And finding the good person can take some time. You make "mistakes" along the way, think someone is made for you when really they're not. It doesn't mean they (or you) are bad people. Just that you don't work as a couple. I think the biggest mistake is not to date "outside of your style", because sometimes it surprising how well some couple work even if the partners are really different. Not, the mistake is to perservere in a relationship that doesn't work hoping that it'll eventually do. Nobody changes radically. Sure, you can work on some traits, but you'll always be more or less the same person. Same for your partner. So don't waste time with someone if it doesn't work.
This is a very depressing article... Why bother dating, I'll be never good enough.
The hiding insults behind "calm down, I'm just joking". This my father, who I see like once a decade because he does this. Last time I visited after not seeing him for years, his first words were essentially "jeez, Jay, you got fat." And then when I get annoyed get told he's just joking. What's the joke then? What a coward.
I learned that those who hate making decisions should date the controlling people.😁
I think ot all boils down to balance. A good example is showing emotion: he cried when his dog died? Understandable. That's fine. But crying every day over something? Not okay. We want sensitive. But balance it out.
