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In the United States, the income gap between the rich and everyone else has been growing markedly, by every major statistical measure, for more than 30 years. According to the UC Berkeley economist Emmanuel Saez, the disparities between rich and poor are so pronounced that America’s top 10 percent now average more than nine times as much income as the bottom 90 percent.

Numbers are one thing, but when you put it in a particular perspective, it sheds a whole different light on the problem. So when one Redditor posted the question “In what way is it expensive to be poor?” on Ask Reddit, it was destined to hit close to the bone for many.

And when it feels like this may be a tricky question that’s deeply counterintuitive, in reality, it does make a whole lot of sense. Like, paying a times-ten fine for not having a parking ticket because you just can’t afford one. Let’s see what other fellow Americans had to share on the subject matter, and it’s more illuminating than you’d think.

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30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' The quality of stuff you're able to buy. For example someone struggling for cash will may pair of shoes for £5 that last for a short period of time and need to be replaced every two months. And someone who is more well off can afford to buy a pair of shoes for £40 which last about two years. Therefore at the end of the two year period the poorer person has spent around £120

scrungobabungo , madmaxhasan Report

Sharra
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness!

N G
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"And still have wet feet."

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Mohsie Supposie
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally hear you. You have to buy cheap stuff, and make it last as long as possible with cheap and nasty hacks and repairs.

Random Anon
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up like that until one day I realized there is one problem to this though. The time you spent trying to fix things, takes time away from things that matter. And time is a finite resource, no matter if you're rich or poor. So I began saving up for better quality and practical stuff. Sure I do not have 10 pairs of nice kicks, but I think the longest pair of nicer sneakers (around $100 when I bought it) I had lasted 8 years.

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Batwench
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Vimes philosophy of social economics.

HelpdeskFrog
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Try thrift shopping if possible in your area (and I don't mean fashion outlets). You can find vintage quality leather shoes and clothes made of quality materials with better cuts. Now there are also a lot of online tutorials on how to modify thrifty clothes for an updated look, but granted not everyone is handy enough to do that. In my part of Eastern Europe though we have more thrift shops than regular fashion stores.

Renate Stargardt
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a really good example. I had to buy a "decent" pair of winter shoes last November, because I have to wear orthopedic insoles. The shoes cost almost € 100 ... and I had to borrow money to buy them. Now it's getting warmer again ... and I need another pair of "decent" shoes. So, for Christmas I wished for a voucher for the shoe shop (and got one😊), so that I don't have to borrow money again.

CatWoman312
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This goes for much more than just shoes. This goes from anywhere to cars to clothes to medicine even.

Mary Peace
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, of course, lots of examples. But I presumed that was coming further down in the article.

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Andrew Gibb
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thrift shops- these have good quality at low prices. You just need to spend time looking.

Cuervo
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being poor humbles you. Hard work always gets you out of poverty. The government has never knocked on my door saying "we are here to help you our of poverty". Some governments enable the poor to stay poor!!!

Hollysmom
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same is true of quality food. Organic is more expensive as are better brands usually. So, if you are low income you and your family are less likely to be healthy, more likely to be overweight, and less likely to receive proper healthcare (especially preventative).

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    #2

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Mental health. Or more specifically stress. You will always have stress about future, always making decisions based on your poverty so that it won't affect your situation in bad way.

    lawlietxx , jeshoots Report

    denzoren
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention the cost and availability of therapy. I'm in the Caribbean and it's somewhat available (only in the cities) but also quite expensive. To put it in perspective, one weekly therapy session costs just under the same amount of my weekly food/gas bill.

    Cee Mor
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son has started having panic attacks/serious chest pains, but he made too much on unemployment, during this pandemic, to qualify for medicade...he didn't know this and went to the ER, racked up a huge bill...which only made him have more panic attacks. The vicious cycle.

    I want cake
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone can receive too much unemployment benefits to qualify for aid for medical bills? Every time I think I know how insane the US healthcare/wage system is, I learn it's even worse.

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    I want cake
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't sleep well because you're stressed about rent payments, phone bills, how you're going to afford to eat until your next payday. Looking back at myself when my financial situation was dire, I'm astonished that I managed to study at all, I was terrified all the time. I'd get minor panic attacks if my phone rang, I was terrified to check the mail box, or open the door if someone rang the bell. Being that poor takes up most of your mental space and it really f***s you up.

    Carol Emory
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention when you're an hourly worker, you're always afraid of getting sick...because you not only will take a hit to the paycheck, you'll most likely be paying any doctor's bills out of pocket since you make too much to qualify for state medical coverage, but not enough to afford your own...and your employer doesn't offer it.

    deanna woods
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so true. I have to go to the doctor in another town and I will have to pay for it out of pocket. I have to go to this doctor so I can start getting treatment for my spinal stenosis.

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    A Head
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Financial stress is so damaging. Individually and relationship-wise. The closest my wife of 23 years and I have come to divorce was due to financial issues.

    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. Not even for poor also for low middle class. I am chronically ill depressed and suicidal. I needed to chabge ny therapist to once a month because I cannot afford it. I should stop but she is so kind that I dont want to do that to her.

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even if you were poor but aren’t anymore. The PTSD from being poor stays with you for life.

    Heather Atwood
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is next to no help out there for people with any mental health issues and when you DOOO find someone, they have a 6 month waiting list!

    CatWoman312
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. I need therapy, but even with insurance the copays for each visit are $45 each time. That adds up and it makes it not worth it. I am not sure what changed, but it use to be free.

    Cin
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the UK, I don't enough to pay into the company pension most months, and with the National Insurance rises pushing it out of automatically being deducted from my wage. I'm now having to work out how I can afford to retire (Government pensions start at 10 years, but for a full pension required 35 years of National Insurance) and balance that £400+ bill every time I want a qualifying year.

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    #3

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Biggest one that I always think of for all my fellow Americans is medical care. If you’re poor you put off medical care as long as possible, and it’s extremely expensive by the time it’s serious enough to address.

    26point2PipeDream , olga_kononenko Report

    Samantha PandaNotBored
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw this UTube once. A kid about 14 hrs had fall off his skateboard but the skateboard had swung back on him , hitting him in the privates literally cutting him from bottom to top . Poor kid was screaming in pain , and someone shouted “Quick call an ambulance “ as blood was all over him .... Through his screams he shouted back “No my mum will kill me don’t call an ambulance “ Wow that really hit me, as if that were my son , the first thing I’d want him to do is to take care and call for help. But this kid knew better and had it drummed into him to never call for help. America needs to do better , much bloody better .

    Aunt Messy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was in interview with a doctor who said that he saw his poor cancer patients twice. Once in the emergency room because they waited so long to get treated that the cancer was huge and they had to have emergency surgery, the second time in the ICU, dying because they didn't have money for chemotherapy or radiation treatments. ....///... People die in the US every day because they don't have money for medical care.

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    The Redhead
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was in the ER after a suicide attempt the security guard told me the guy in the next bay had been waiting for a bed in a psych ward for 3 days he didn't have insurance. I had insurance and was transferred the same day I arrived. It's a messed up system. Why should he have to wait for help for his issues. When it comes to mental health issues it should be first come first served.

    Carrie Roettger
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I lived this for about 17 years I'm type 1 diabetic and we were/are poor. I rarely had insurance and when I did, because it is a preexisting condition there was a waiting period for insurance to cover it. My county has a program for indigent and low income people that I did use for a while but the doctor I was assigned at one point was a terrible bully. I was diagnosed with T1D in 1996 and 1999 I had my first serious complication diagnosed. I definitely used the ER as my primary care up until 2012 when I was diagnosed with end stage renal disease and put on dialysis. Before I even left the hospital after diagnosis I had Medicare and a few weeks later I was approved for Social security disability. I know without a doubt that if I had proper care all along I wouldn't have needed a kidney transplant before I turned 40. We have so many expensive medical Bill's its ridiculous.

    somnomania
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i feel extremely fortunate that even though we're poor, we've always had basic medical insurance. if i have some sort of health concern, i can just go see a doctor. the things i really need aren't covered in this state (therapy and chiropractic), but the fact that we don't have to pay out of pocket for anything else medical makes it manageable.

    John Otruba
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was 12 years old in 1966. My Dad was always a hard worker but did not get a job "with benefits" until 1967. In '66 I had a severe cold turned into double pneumonia. As my fever rose I remember my parents worrying about cost od Dr.'s house call. 2 days later I was hospitalized and nearly died. 2 WEEKs later I was released from ICU. Being poor sure cost my folks and to this day I believe influenced my career choices. ie never took a job without benefits even if it was better for me

    El Dee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Luckily not an issue here, literally everything is free at the point of use. No matter how much or how little you have, it's free and available right away..

    Tim Haight
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if you have no insurance then they wait and end up in in ER. When they cant pay, the costs get passed on to the insured. Sucks all aaround

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    The idea that it’s expensive to be poor may sound counterintuitive. But life is pricey in itself, no doubt. And if you break down the average American’s monthly expenditure, most of it goes towards housing, transportation, healthcare, childcare, and food and clothing.

    In numerous ways, the system benefits individuals more the bigger their bank account is. According to Mallory Sanborn, a senior associate at Access Ventures, the concept of the overdraft fee is one of the examples.

    “While many banks offer overdraft protection and market it as as a service, it can result in the accumulation of fines that make it more difficult to maintain a bank account. If you have insufficient funds in a linked savings account to cover the overdraft, this 'service' can cause more harm than good. Overdrafting by $5 results in a $35 overdraft fee.”

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    #4

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Being stuck with higher interest rates because you don't have enough credit to get low rates.

    notjustanytwig , paxtechnology Report

    HelpdeskFrog
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know people need credit for various reasons, but stepping away from the buy on credit consumerist mind set would benefit many. The buy now, pay later is a terrible deal for things like house appliances, cars, holidays, clothes etc.

    Wendillon
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a fine idea and all but it's not like you can live without some house appliances. If you have food and you live in warm place, you NEED a refrigerator or your food will spoil. And if you can't afford to buy it outright you're going to need credit. Full agreement on the holidays part, but often there isn't a choice on the rest.

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    Daniel Marsh
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will often be EXTREMELY conservative on so many issues, but the credit-card system in America is just plain evil. For years, I was rather poor, so I avoided using credit, because it was so easy to rack up huge financing charges. Then I found out once I wanted a mortgage, that my credit score was s**t. Thank God my wife hadn't been so fiscally responsible!

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    If you are extremely conservative on other issues, you are part of the problem. You’re why it’s like this.

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    Gary French
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or getting better interest on savings because you are rich and have lots of money.

    Grumble O'Pug
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly bank deregulation on interest rates has let them go sky high. While the prime rate is in the floor, still no political will to stop what is tantamount to usury.

    Lisa Chambers
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah this bit is just one of a million ways how the banks profit off the poor. Sick.

    Mari Bryant
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't a poor thing. Nobody is born with a credit history. You earn the lower rates by making your payments on time.

    William Keaton
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interest rate should not matter. You should pay your credit card in full each month, never carry balance!

    El Dee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Was unable to pay off my overdraft, the same ban wouldn't lend me the money to repay it over even their minimum term. My wages barely covered it anymore and it cost £30 a month in fees alone. All this because I'd been made redundant and got another job at the bottom of the payscale, took a few years to get back to where I was again..

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Put your money in stocks then. Robinhood has a debit card. The bank won’t give you any interest.

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    A Head
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is true, but it used to be that you could call up your credit card company and negotiate a lower rate. Not so much anymore. My wife's credit score is around 800, mine is about 750. We own our own business, make good money, and don't carry a huge amount of credit card debt, but it's gone up a bit in the last year (wonder why?). We both recently applied for cards with 0% introductory rates in an effort to move some debt, and both of us were offered cards with a $500 limit, and a large transfer fee. Credit card companies have really clamped down on that stuff. We used to get 2 or 3 good offers in the mail a day - not so much anymore.

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    #5

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' "The poor pay interest, and the rich collect it."

    hindermore , naipo_de Report

    Random Anon
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This may draw some flak. I grew up poor with some really old fashioned folks that really look down on owing anything. In that sense, frugality was drilled into me. But I am relatively debt-free besides mortgages. Any extra cash goes into investments since the interest from the mortgages are lower than my returns from the investments. It took 4 decades to start from dirt poor to relatively comfortable. I would like to say it is hard work and great insight but it isn't. It's plain old fashioned frugality for me.

    a very smol kitteh
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ugh im disgusted about these people making the ones with less money be poorer

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    Then work hard, get a good job and you don't have to or be poor and make communist posts like this

    A Head
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You think poor people don't work hard? Think about that the next time you have food delivered to your house at 10pm, or expect a well prepared coffee and breakfast at 7am.

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    Mohsie Supposie
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    4 years ago

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    Money makes money.

    #6

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' You have to buy a cheap, unreliable car, that will inevitably cost you more in repairs, poor fuel economy, higher insurance etc.

    Outcasted_introvert , Charles Report

    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So true. I spent 1400 euros (a fortune) for fixing a 18yo car that my partner inherited. I need it becase I cannot longer walk moderate distances. Its not been a month and its still making a terrible noise. But I dont have the 4k or more to buy a decent second hand car. And no talk about buying a new one.

    Treessimontrees
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And break down causing you to miss work compounding the problem.

    Lauren Caswell
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or, you just can't have a car, depending on the country. My car is a difficult to maintain thing for me, simply because as well as annual registration fees, it needs a 6monthly warrant of fitness check, which is extremely thorough and the car has to be in excellent safety condition to pass. No missing or damaged anything, no home repairs.

    John Otruba
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ford is your example pic. Henry Ford developed assembly line and over paid his workers so cars would be affordable to all.

    Olly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually feel lucky to even have that unreliable car. My co-worker has to use the bus.

    Kimberly Young
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely. I couldn't believe how different it was the first time I was able to buy a decent car. The only times I've had it in the shop were for routine maintenance. It's so nice to be able to take it for an inspection without panicking about how much it's going to cost to fix stuff so it'll pass.

    Fred Frock
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not really true:most people spend ridiculous amounts on cars because they want to look cool or impress people. most people I know have spent a hundred grand or more on car payments and high insurance in the last decade> Im still driving a 91 Metro the insurance is 10 bucks a month occasionally i have to repair it but its phenomenally less than a monthly payment. i bought a tranny for it last year for a hundred bucks and paid 500 to have it put in. my biggest expense yet. Yea people judge me and i can totally tell but who cares? its insane to spend twice your yearly income or more on a new car just to be cool

    Mark Kelly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Glad I get cheap parts and can fix my own car.

    Jenna Howe
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It will cost you missed work too.

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    Sadly, the majority of the profit banks make through these fees comes from the accounts of the poorest of the banking population in the US. The numbers speak for themselves—Americans paid a staggering $15 billion of overdraft fees in 2016 alone.

    The payday loan is also something that many Americans find themselves grasping onto as a last resort when their financial situation is particularly difficult. When you have little or no savings and your car breaks down, which is the only way for you to get to your job, a payday loan becomes the only option.

    But according to The Economist, in 2013, the average interest rate on a payday loan was 322% compared to the average credit card interest rate of 15%. This is cold evidence of how the system that feeds on the poorest of society is broken.

    #7

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' You can't afford to buy a place and essentially throw the money away into rent instead of paying off a house and being able to sell it after.

    Kuli24 , Erik Mclean Report

    Sum Guy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The horrible thing about this is that the rest is usually the same amount you'd be paying for your mortgage, but you are denied because you are poor...basically

    Foxxy (The Original)
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't save for a deposit coz we have essentials to pay for including rent. And as Sum Guy says, quite often the rent you pay is about the same as a mortgage. We will never own a home but I have decided that I am okay with that coz then we don't have to worry about paying council rates, any repairs and also when the kids move out we can travel around Australia without the hassle of what to do with the house.

    Mohsie Supposie
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once a renter, always a renter .... My parents have been renting for over 40 years. They have ALWAYS dreamt of owning a house, but it just has never happened. The amount they need for a deposit increases just a little bit faster than the rate at which they can save up. And now their children are living the same story.

    Bill
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one really depends on the person's situation. How many peoplehave 7-10k saved up for things like a new furnace in the dead of winter

    Johnny
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Buying a house isn't the panacea that some thing it is. A house *can* be a good investment and a stead place to live. But it has drawbacks. A house has associated expenses, like I pay $1500/year for insurance that would be $200/year if I was a renter, property taxes can cost thousands (and in most places, taxes go up every year as home values appreciate), normal upkeep can be expensive, and there can be unexpected expenses (my parents paid nearly $10K for a collapsed sewer lateral). While a house *can* be a good investment, that's not always the case, home prices can go down. And owning a house makes relocation more difficult, you have to sell (or rent) the house.... if you can, if you're moving due to a regional or national economic downturn, you may not be able to sell or rent your house. If you have limited economic means, renting could be the better deal even if you're paying more in rent than you would in mortgage, since the mortgage doesn't reflect all costs of home ownership.

    Truth Monster
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok, so storytime. First time homebuyers can qualify for special loans in the US, and also there are agencies like the USDA who will back a loan if the property meets certain conditions. How do I know? I bought a house by myself making 20k a year before tax 8 years ago. I paid no cash down except for the inspection. If you are interested in getting a house, then start talking to banks before you start looking. Even if they turn you down, at least you know what to aim for.

    MelO
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the US, there are also a lot of non profits who will go over your finances for free, help determine if there is any way you can buy, and help you figure out the best path for you, without a vested interest in selling anything to you. I worked with one and it was really helpful. They also know about all the little programs in your state that might give a boost. For example: Arizona has a grant program for first time home buyers. I got 5% of my down payment as a grant (so, didn't have to pay it back).

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    CincyReds
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes I like renting. When something goes wrong, I do'n't have to pay for it. my hot water heater when out, called my landlord, My AC not working well, called the Landlord. I mean I take care of the little things, but the big ones, I don't have to worry about it.

    John Otruba
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    cannot even rent a good apartment without good credit

    El Dee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you are disabled you are stuck where you are. Even if you can find somewhere to rent privately you need to pay deposit plus a month in advance and then (obviously) a month later your next payment. It takes two months for Housing Benefit to kick in, they won't pay in advance and they won't pay deposit. This ensures landlords can block you despite this having been made illegal last year. Thanks Westminster!!

    Sean Harrison
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately Banks and Real Estate Owners have realized that it's more profitable to rent than to sell property. That way they get consistent revenue over a longer period of time, and they get to keep the property as an asset on their books.

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    #8

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' If you're ever desperate enough to take out a title/payday loan you'll discover you just stepped in financial quicksand.

    New_Game_P1us , Alexander Mils Report

    Mohsie Supposie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Payday loan lender should just be lined up and shot! The rates of interest they charge is pure GREED, and that much greed is a deadly sin.

    A.M. Pierre
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was looking for jobs a few years back and the only people hiring nearby were payday/title loan places. I couldn't bring myself to work for a place like that - ended up having to take a job that was a 1.5 hour drive away, but at least I could live with myself.

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    Bill
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It only took me 3 years to get out of that trap from 1 emergency that I was too poor to save for

    CincyReds
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those things are just a revolving door. As soon as you pay it back, you have to take it back out again. I used to do loan modifications on mortgages. This lady had like 3 of them, but was still tithing 20% to her church. I told her God will not be mad if you cut down on your tithe and pay these things off...

    WhatEvenIsLife
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugh. Had to get my alternator replaced just recently and NEEDED to get it done because it was our only car and I used it to get to work. I didn't have enough money to pay the bill, so I was forced to finance it through some shady company the repair shop referred me to. Interest rate on that loan was 129% if you didn't pay it off during the first 90 days. Thank god I got my tax refund in time to pay it off during the interest-free period. How tf do you ever pay something like that off if it starts accruing interest?? Blatant exploitation of poor (and desperate) people.

    A Head
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've made the mistake of doing this in the past. They will literally loan you more money to make the payment on the loan you already have. It's horrible, and should be illegal.

    judy baker
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are nothing more than parasites that prey on poor peoples misfortunes. I liken them to fleas, ticks.......

    Mike McKeever
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Payday loan operators are thieves. It should be illegal.

    CatWoman312
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really feel like those type of loans should be illegal. The interest rate is just robbery.

    Nevits Yibble
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The common myth out there is low income people have no other choice, which is nonsense. That's like saying poor communities "need" these places. They'd actually be better off without them. There's a reason these companies build their stores in low income areas. Predatory lending is obscenely profitable. Rent-A-Center is another example. They target people who don't have enough sense to stay away from these places

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    athornedrose
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    payday lenders are usurers. in dante's inferno, these lenders have their own circle of hell where they're forced to march on burning hot sand carrying the amount they collected in life's weight in gold with no water or breaks.

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    #9

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' I saw a lady coming out of a laundromat, loading her baskets of clothes into a taxi (there is zero other public transport where I saw this happen and only a few taxis). Not being able to put enough money together at one time to buy a car or a washing machine (she probably rented so this maybe wasn't even an option) was costing her a fortune. Just being nickeled and dimed to death.

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    Daria B
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't doubt that woman might have been poor, but appearances can be deceiving. I am working/middle class and we do have our own laundry machine, although we're renting (which is pretty normal here in Korea anyway), but an appliance can betray you when you need it the most, so what do you do? Well, use a public laundromat first, then call your appliance service once you have time. OR Korean winters can be so freesing, laundry at home becomes forbidden due to the freezing of water pipes, causing property damage to the neighbours. In this case, we use the public laundromat as well.

    NMN
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always rented and always had my own laundry machine (also all apartments in Brazil, big or small, have a designated area for that), but once an old one broke down and I had to use a laundry service for a while (laundromat style didn't exist). Now in US, it is hard, if you don't live in a house, difficultly you'd find an utility/service area for wasging/drying laundry within an apartment

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    Johnny
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In a city, owning a car can be more expensive than taking taxis when you need one and relying on public transportation or walking the rest of the time. And owning your own washing machine may not be possible at all in a city apartment building. I've lived in this situation, doing my laundry by laundromat and never felt that it was a significant expense.

    GFSTaylor
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My first washing machine was a used twin tub from a local appliance shop. As was the second, a few years later. When I could afford an automatic, I freecycled that twintub which went to someone being supported to set up a new home by a charity.

    Olly
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so poor that I wash my clothes in the bathtub (or not at all).

    DKS 001
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've washed mine in the kitchen sink and hung them up to drip dry.

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    KrabbyGramps666
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And I hate when people make washing your clothes at a laundry mat like a bad thing like at least I’m washing them instead of letting them stink

    Franc Esca
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Buy an electric camper wash if you can! It's a very good middle ground for renters who can't access laundromats and can't buy a "real" domestic washing machine. No tokens, no taxis, no waiting in line. Had I known what a good alternative it was I would have done it sooner

    Lisa Chambers
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember trying to find an apartment within walking distance for this reason. Then I learned some landlords put in washers and dryers in the rentals.

    Jenna Howe
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And laundromats are really expensive. It was bad 40 years ago, but now - Whew.

    Carol Emory
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For that matter, laundromats. I thought it would be so much more expensive having a washer and dryer at home rather than taking it to the laundromat. Turns out it's cheaper. But who can afford and apartment with W/D hookups and the machines to wash your clothes.

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    #10

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Not MONEY expensive, but TIME expensive. Everything takes longer, and you always have to wait. The bus, the laundromat, the store, the line for Money Orders or check cashing... Before they installed the self-check registers, the Wal-Mart near my work was guaranteed to have a 10-minute wait in line, no matter when you went. Once, there were 42 people in each of the only 2 lines open, at 7P.M. on a Friday. I thought, "They can only get away with this because these people have no other choice." There's no way the store in the nice neighborhood up the road would ever allow that, their customers would have a fit.

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    A.M. Pierre
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, if you're rich you can pay other people to take care of time intensive daily tasks so you can spend your time on things like growing your business or making more money.

    Curry on...
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Burden the poor with trivial stuff, and they won't have time or energy to think their way out of poverty.

    Legen ( wait for it ) dary
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't forget that if something gets damaged you have to save money to fix or substitute. A rich person make calls, send emails and after a couple of days all is fixed.

    El Dee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of this is only in the US. We don't use cheques any more, everything is paid direct to your bank account (you're required to have one now for everything) Also washing machines are easily available and cheap, even in charity shops now and we have much better public transport. I think the US has deliberately put up barriers to the poor, it's just not as bad elsewhere..

    Blake Ingram
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What pisses me off is that there are like 50 registers at Walmart, and at almost any given time, there are like 2 or 3 open unless its Christmas season.

    Carrie Roettger
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked at a Walmart in a nicer, more upscale neighborhood and I can tell you the only time we had really long lines was when it was time to shut down all but 1 register at about 10PM. Also the prices vary wildly from store to store. In a nicer area some things are more expensive but in a poorer area some of the necessities are higher.

    Josh Tall
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is a very powerful statement

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    #11

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' In every manner. If you want healthy food, that costs. But eating cheap food, while sustaining, will inevitably lead to poorer health. Bad health will cost you. If you want to not be stressed-and stress is huge when it comes to health-then that means not having to worry is kind of an integral part of poverty. Stress means less awesome interpersonal relationships, means less sleep, means overwork to try to make ends meet. Good interpersonal relationships, getting enough sleep, and not working yourself to exhaustion are things that help you stay alive. Mentally, you now have a running total of how much everything in your life costs. I guarantee you that every poor person knows exactly, precisely, how much milk costs or gasoline, or a bus pass, or the subscription to Netflix that brings them just a little joy and if they can afford it or not. There are no coins in their couches, $5 to discover in an old coat; they need that money and they know where it is. And if not, now they have to spend time (another expense!) dealing with debt collectors, or people at utility agencies or banks or government offices, trying to negotiate and navigate systems that may or may not be willing to help them (regardless of that system's original intent). Poverty is merely the accumulation of expenses that one cannot pay and once you are poor, there is a system in place to ensure that you never, ever run out of those expenses.

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    Grumble O'Pug
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People underestimate this, then blame the poor people

    Al Christensen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Poverty is merely the accumulation of expenses that one cannot pay and once you are poor, there is a system in place to ensure that you never, ever run out of those expenses." THIS.

    Carol Emory
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention, all that stress leads to stress eating the junk food that makes you feel worse. I once heard a co-worker complain about how people asking for a charity break on health bills should stop going to Taco Bell and McDonalds and just eat at home. I said..you have no idea what their life is like. They may have 3 jobs just to pay the rent. That leaves no time for shopping, cooking and cleaning up. You do what you have to do to survive.

    Aria Whitaker
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right! And people who say that do not seem to realize that even though "fresher food" IS cheaper...(a bag of 15 apples is only $3 here)....in order to COOK that fresh food certain things are required that people who are not struggling take greatly for granted. You must have a working stove, your electricity (or gas) turned on and working, pots, utensils, and a working fridge to store everything. A poor person, at any time, could NOT have one or more of those things. It is easier for them to pay $5.00 for a BK Value Meal than to have to pay the electric that may be off, buy pots they may not have, ect. And then, that is ONLY if their neighborhood is not a "food desert" and their local grocer actually HAS fresh foods available, which may not be the case. Middle classers take most of that for granted and never think about how fortunate they are to have money to buy food, cook it, and store it.

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    Treessimontrees
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Simple example - you can't really justify/afford a $125 filling at the dentist, so you skip it. Tooth ends up needing an extraction and you got an infection and the total bill is $850.

    Kristof De Smet
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is 100% true. Vegetables and fruit cost too much, and that's why poor people can't afford to buy them, or at least not enough. And junk food costs way less, so...

    Scagsy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Healthy food like fruit and vegetables should be subsidised to make them affordable. This could be covered by increasing the price of unhealthy food if necessary. It would benefit everyone in the long run as less people would be sick and need to access healthcare.

    El Dee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is SO true here. Cheap food is the unhealthiest option, fatty, sugary and low in nutrients. Healthy foods are out of the price range for the working poor..

    Arctic Fox Lover
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which is why, because of our amazing (and kinda rich) relatives, we get free Netflix :D I'm so grateful for people like that.

    Brett Layton
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Overall agree but I do find that when it specifically comes to food it isnt so much about the cost of 'good' food its more a lack of understanding around nutritional needs. I dont think theres a single one of us that hasnt seen someone using government subsidies at the grocer and the cart is full of junk food, candy or candy like stuff, frozen dinners and the like.

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    #12

    Rent is more than a mortgage for my apartment would be, but I can't afford the down payment.

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    Becca Gizmo the Squirrel
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was looking online for house a the other day because my daughter and her boyfriend are looking to buy. If you have great credit like they do, mortgages on some really nice houses with several acres were about $800. But to rent that same house was $2100. There were a few average houses for $450 mortgage, but rent was about $1400. I regret screwing my credit up when I first moved out 24 years ago st 18.

    the redqueen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Girl! Me and you both. I moved out at 17, and had that " I could die tomorrow " mentality, did not understand how important having "good credit" was; I honest to god, thought having good credit, was like some sort of status thing people had to brag about how high their number was.And thats it. I didn't think it meant anything, so I didn't treat it as such, until I grew up, and then it was waaaay too late. It was obliterated. At that time, I remember it was four hundred something?!( I know, I know..) BUT...my credit-crushing , kindred spirit-there is hope! I will try to keep this short, this is what happened to me: I screwed my credit up 28 years ago. My fault. Did it to myself. For years, I tried to right my wrong, and pay all I owe. Worked 2 jobs. For years. Until I realized, I would spend the rest of my life, trying to pay what I owed, and by the time I was 90, I would still be paying interest. And never get to the principle. So I filed chapter 7. (Cont.........

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    Johnny
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Make sure you're factoring in all the costs of home ownership - maintenance and upkeep can be expensive. My parents just spent nearly $10,000 replacing a sewer lateral that had collapsed. If you don't have a lot of money, renting can still be better for someone with limited money.

    Thenatural
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The rental market in the UK is beyond a joke now...young families don't have a chance....trying to save 30-40 k for a deposit while having to pay £1200 a month rent on an average 3 bed house.

    Flo Maz
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, I have a good job and even with saving on a monthly basis, I'm still far away from a down payment but I've been paying a mortgage in rent for the past 30yrs...

    JP Doyle
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And most people have to spend upwards of 50-60% of their income on rent. And gods help you if utilities aren't included in your rent.

    Martha Higgins
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True, but rent also includes the repairs and upkeep on the place. So if you haven't the down payment perhaps you couldn't afford the repairs and upkeep and it is smarter to stay in an apartment until you could.

    Daniel Marsh
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I FOOLISHLY THOUGHT THIS FOR YEARS!!! It's called "mortgage insurance." It sucks to have to pay extra, but it is TOTALLY worth it!!! You can buy with almost 0% down... as long as you have mortgage insurance.

    Heather Atwood
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The town I live in was considered a really quiet place with relatively cheap housing prices. Fast forward 24 years and thanks to people who can't afford to live in Boulder, CO (nearby), they have driven up the cost of housing tremendously! We looked at a house to buy in Boulder in 1994 and it was a tiny bungalow for $80,000 and it just sold last year for $1.3 MILLION!!! Now my town has grown by leaps and bounds and we are so incredibly lucky to have gotten into the housing market in '94 and have been able to upgrade to bigger houses with no increase in mortgage!

    Lizz Lor
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wisconsin has a great program for this that allows people with moderate incomes (for a 2 person household it's up to 98K) qualify for a special mortgage program for 3.5% down payment with a 620 minimum score. They also have 2 down payment assistance programs...one is like a guaranteed second mortgage that can be up.to 6% of the home cost to cover down payment and closing costs...the other is more of a grant for down payment costs and that one is for people making less than like 65K. The regular program and second mortgage down payment have no caps to how many people can utilize the program each year.

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    #13

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' There are late fees for everything. Overdraft fees at the bank. Sh*tty jobs usually don't have good healthcare plans. If you're poor, you need credit cards just to survive, but interest rates are higher for those with low credit scores (see late fees above). Sh*tty cars are always breaking down, and that's expensive...

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    Lauren Caswell
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now they disguise late fees as "prompt payment discounts"....it's the same thing.

    Guy MacGregor
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have never understood the concept of "credit card", "credit score", "building credit" (whatever that mean). And frankly, that looks so bad I am happy to be ignorant.

    Fikri IRShade
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the idea that you need a credit card just to survive is just fukked up

    Rissie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *in the US. Let's get that straight. I love the US, but the extremes do stand out very well there. Credit cards are not a must and even discouraged for the less fortunate in many other Western countries

    Lauren Caswell
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In NZ we heavily use EFTPOS cards (bank cards), and to help update people so we aren't forced to get credit cards, you can get your bank card set up to function as a paywave visa etc, but still only linked to your own funds in your bank a.c., so we don't have to get credit cards to buy online etc. You need a good credit rating to get a credit card and a lot of people avoid them as they are a debit trap anyway

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    Javiera Gotelli
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand why in the U.S it's so easy to have multiple credit cards if you don't have any money. It's a neverending cycle of debt...

    Bill
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unemployment cards issued have fees for cash withdrawal , checking balance and loading more on the card. Shame on you Chase and the 14 states who use them

    Mari Bryant
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The late fees are to encourage you to be on-time. This isn't rocket science.

    Mimi777
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. And it charges u a fee if u don’t have at least a certain amount of money in your account. We’ve checked into other banks in town. They all do it.

    a very smol kitteh
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i used to live like this as a small kid :'(

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    #14

    Time is also expensive. I use to spend 4 hours a day on a bus just to get to work. If my manager let us out 15 minutes late, I'd have to wait an hour downtown at night because I JUST missed the bus. The bus came evert hour after a certain time.

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    Carol Emory
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep! And it's so fun to hang out at the bus stop for an hour with a guy that's tripping out on drugs. NOT!

    CharliAnn Olney
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aaaaannnnd he could care LESS! Right?

    Mark Kelly
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wtf? Glad I have a car and it's less than 20 minutes to work but even on the bus would be 45 minutes.

    El Dee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup, happened to me. My employer was in the ass end of nowhere and whilst there was an employee bus my shift finished 15 minutes AFTER that. I had a long walk to the main road for a half hour wait at the bus stop and sometimes it wouldn't come so that meant a mile walk to the NEXT stop where a different bus came more often. Got a car and took two hours off my day (I only lived a few miles from them)

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    #15

    Therapy is $400 PER SESSION even with the insurance from my job. My job doesn’t pay enough to live on my own. My spouse and I are slowly falling out of love and I’ll end up homeless and dead either way (working non stop and can’t afford living still or spouse passes and still end up homeless and dying). I’m on the autism spectrum and getting further insight costs more than what I can afford after my bills are paid. When everything is paid, I have $20 left. There’s no ladder for me to climb. I try my best to stay upbeat, because in the past I’ve already attempted suicide 3 times. That’s won’t help. But yea, poor sucks because your whole life is more expensive than it feels it’s worth many times. But somehow it’s still beautiful in tiny ways. Death won’t take me that easily; that f**ker has to fight to get my soul after the abyss of madness I’ve seen on Earth... and survived.

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    denzoren
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Keep on fighting. I understand what you're going through.

    Wandaluzt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They posted this on Reddit. They won't see your comment.

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    Daniel Marsh
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    PLEASE FIND A THERAPIST THROUGH A CHURCH, non-profit, etc. Many have sliding scales as low as $25/session!

    Wandaluzt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nice of you to say, but this site rips content off from Reddit and the person posted it there. They won't see this.

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    judy baker
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone having hard times please remember nothing lasts forever. I've been alive 60+ years and trust me I've seen my share. When your in the midst of it there doesn't seem to be an end in sight. With effort and perseverance things can get better. The solution is to never give up. Not everything will work out but when it doesn't find the path that does.

    Daisy Valencia
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Speaking as a therapist, you are being monstrously overcharged! Clinicians who charge that much for a single session are ripping people off.

    Wandaluzt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Posted on Reddit. They won't see this.

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    Carol Emory
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We understand and we agree! Fight it with all your might!

    Wandaluzt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They posted this on Reddit. They won't see this.

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    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is imo one of the worst things about being poor. The lack of freedom. It happens specially to women but of course it can happen to all. You live with an abusive partner/family or simply dont love each other anymore but you arent capable of leaving either so you are trapped there. I am falling out of love with my partner too (the illneses are taking a toll on him and he is not handling it well). But the conditions for me to stay in this country are to have a job (not posible) or stay with him. If we break up I get kicked out of the country in three months. The option to go back to my country isnt posible either because they kick migrants out of the social system. To have right to health care or social help I would need to work 12m and thats also not possible. Knowing that I am trapped here is really hurting our relation too.

    Carrie Roettger
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband needs to have surgery on his ankles and he has a lipoma on is forehead that is causing headaches but his insurance through work is pretty crappy and each surgery will cost around $2,000 out of pocket. So he lives in pain and tries not to break his ankles again until we can afford it.

    Susan Mercurio
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A note of hope: I'm homeless and I feared that I would be dead, but there are many agencies and other homeless people to look out for you. Think how many people are homeless in the US today: they're not all dying on the streets.

    Ila in Maine
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know that it feels like you are alone but you are not. Look out the window and no matter if it is sunny, cloudy or rainy look as far to the distance as you can. There is at least one other person out there who is feeling the exact same way you are at that exact moment. Your mission is to imagine who they are and how you might meet one day. Keep your chin up. You never know what tomorrow will bring but you do know you can kick it right in the behind.

    Wandaluzt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was posted on Reddit. They will not see your comment.

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    #16

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' The justice system. If you can’t pay a fine, the state will make things more expensive by adding fees on top of fees on top of fees, then they will incarcerate you for not paying the inflated fees. Then you have to pay the parole officer who is keeping an eye on you while you care unable to get a job that pays enough to pay him.

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    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You also cannot afford to sue people that did ilegal things. When I was in germany I worked for a university. My contrat was part time for 600 euros a month (less than half the minimum salary) but they made me work 50-75h a week 7days a week (our 'weekend' was to process the data). I informed the university and they say "we are sad that you dont like the job". I know that if I sued them I would have won because its super illegal. But I didnt have the savings to pay a lawyer and a translator and pay rent for the many months that it would last.

    susan severson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am 75, live on $700 a month and never had a ticket for speeding or anything. I got my first one about 6 months ago for not stopping completely at a stop sign. I admit I was distracted as I was a little late picking my granddaughter up from school. I went to court expecting the fine to be maybe $20-30. The judge said the fine was $230. And if I didn't pay it fees would be added every day it was late. I almost started crying. I told the judge that I didn't have anywhere near that amount of money and he just looked at me. He then told me to go to the District attorney's office and see what they could do. The DA could see that I was very upset and on the verge of tears and he asked me if I had a ticket before. Upon hearing the I hadn't he tore the ticket up and just told me to be more careful. Believe me, my attention is completely on driving now. I heard that some people actually go to jail for these tickets. Absolutely scared me to death at the thought of that.

    Carol Emory
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And for those who say "don't be a criminal." Statistically, it's more likely that a poor person may have drugs or alcohol in their car, so the police will target poor people in the hopes of making a bust. Many people that are arrested on warrants got them because of the traffic ticket that snowballed out off control. You could go to jail for unpaid parking tickets because you didn't have enough to feed the meter, your boss kept you late, now you have a ticket you can't pay and the fees and fines add up. Then your butt gets thrown in jail for not paying.

    Magpie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You have to pay the parole officer " that is ... appalling.

    Penny Fan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the penalty for breaking the law is a fine, then that law only applies to the poor. Can't remember who said it but yeah...

    Gary French
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the punishments as well. A poor person gets caught shop lifting trying to get food to eat and ends up in prison. A CEO steals all their employees pensions and gets caught for fraud or people are doing suspect things with the stock markets and lose people their money (Admittedly most likely rich people!) and they all walk away free.

    DogMom
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People have to pay parole officers? That feels shady.

    bryguy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Only in the USA. In most states you have to pay for your parole supervisor monthly and this is a requirement for parole. In most other countries parole officers salary is paid by the government (as it should be).

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    Foxxy (The Original)
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this just an American thing. I only ask coz my hubby got a fine and it was so easy to register for a payment plan without any extra fees or interest. We pay $20 a fortnight til it's paid off without any added consequences (besides loss of demerit points for the driving offence).

    Becca Gizmo the Squirrel
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got set up on a payment plan once because I had let my car insurance lapse. I got pulled over, could not pay the $400 the court wanted me to (I think it was $75 a month, I was going through a rough patch) and I ended up with a warrant and arrested. I had actually turned my self in. But I went to turn myself in at the city jail, not the county jail. I didn't know the difference. So they hand cuffed my arms and feet, put me In the paddy wagon. And drove me ACROSS THE STREET. I had turned myself in!!! Ended up paying over $600.

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    pamela nichols
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't have to be a criminal to incur fines. There are towns whose whole income is derived from fining poor people. They are. Nickel and dimed to death. They can't afford to move, can't afford to stay. No wonder the suicide statistics are going up. Can you imagine someone coming in your home and.fining you because all your curtain don't match?

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    #17

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Can't afford to buy bulk at Costco, so end up spending more and getting less in the long run...

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    Bill
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Dollar store trap. You can pay 3x what a bigger box costs per unit

    JESSE REED
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've wasted so much food buying in bulk, sometimes just getting what you need and not wasting it is cheaper

    Bender Bending Rodríguez
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on how many people you are buying for. Sure bulk buying is not for a single person home, however a family of 4 can save much more buying in bulk.

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    Grumble O'Pug
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Costco isn’t that big of a savings. BUT people in insecure financial situations ca NOT stock up on food, maintain a regular and dependable source of food, and have to travel to get to grocery stores. (People forget about rural poor where the local “grocer” is reselling walmart and Costco stuff)

    Lisa Chambers
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if you have no transportation, you can only buy what you can carry.

    Susan Mercurio
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you have nowhere to store it if you do buy in bulk

    Carol Emory
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention you can't buy anything at Costco unless you pay the $60 membership fee. When I heard the Costco in our area was taking EBT, I got the neighbor a membership and took her shopping there..She cried several times knowing it would help her get through the month. We also under estimated the cargo space of my car and had to call another friend to help transport stuff...LOL

    a very smol kitteh
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    costco ugh, my family never buys from that

    Heather Atwood
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Too much waste with Sams or Costco-perishables go bad too soon!

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    #18

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Being unable to pay for education is the most expensive way of staying poor. And don’t come with scholarship and that stuff, it is expensive af and even more if you are like me from a poor third world country

    pazul-ulzap , napr0tiv Report

    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly nowadays titles dont mean that you will even get a minimum wage job. Better to work and gain experience than to study.

    Simon
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not in my case. Almost all the jobs at my level request a degree and will flat out reject you regardless of how you present yourself because it makes the recruiters life easier if they can discount multiple applicants in one go.

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    NMN
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Humm University education is usually subsided in most part of the world. It's not expensive in most developing countries, usually it's even free. The issue is like with a friend of mine, he's poor, can't afford time to study to be accepted in the good free Uni, so had to use a private paid Uni which are easier to be admitted, but then he had to work a dead end job to sustain himself that drains his energy, so he ended up dropping out, twice. So the issue is being poor, if you talk about middle class it is way more difficult to have a decent education in US than in most developing nations

    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its not only about the price. Its also about how many years of working you lose by studying

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    Bad Mole
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These days you're better off getting into a trade rather than a degree. Welders and electricians make great money.

    Bananic
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cried one night knowing that out there somewhere people complain about how they dislike to go to class while i was unable to pay for education i really wanted

    somnomania
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    as a stepping stone, community colleges are great. i went part-time to the best one in the state and graduated ten years later with two associates degrees and zero debt, because of financial aid and a couple of tiny scholarships.

    El Dee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Things don't have to be that way. In the past few years they have made ALL education free in my country again. You don't need to pay for a degree now. NB it was free a few decades ago and you would even be GIVEN money to pay for transport, accommodation and books etc but Thatcher took that away from the poor and only the rich could afford it. Luckily she is not around and my own country has the power to fix some of these things..

    Random Anon
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The world could be different now so I don't know if this still applies. I worked while still in high school and after graduating. It took a few years to save up enough for a modest college. I'm not in the US just to be clear. Even in college, I worked some freelance jobs. Sure my results took a hit and I have to accept that. Took a break because I ran really low on cash and deferred the final year (which is the most costly). So I went back to work with a bit more skills. Finally got that first degree at 27, years later than most of my peers. That was nearly 2 decades ago.

    a very smol kitteh
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and then we wont get good jobs and then it will restart all over agin 😢

    Tim Haight
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if you are low income you may qualify for grants like pell and state needs grants.

    Heather Menard
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am stuck at the bottom of the student loan well. I know that nobody is going to come along and through me a bucket

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    #19

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Low paying jobs can also be physically harmful ie factory work, and you can be treated like garbage because it's cheaper to pay out the occasional law suit and medical expenses rather than resign the factory and make it less efficient to be safer.

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    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you don't have rights. When I was still able to work I was working in a gardening centrum (we were all imigrants). Our contracts were daily so then we didnt have the right of sick leave or holidays.

    Gary French
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the stupidity of our society is that the manual low paid jobs are the essential. The pandemic has taught us this. The manual low paid workers could most likely do their job without the high paid pen pushers above them, but the high paid pen pushers would have no job without the manual workers.

    El Dee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why unions are an absolute necessity. Humans need to be treated better than machinery. Many former colleagues of mine are now disabled at a young age due to the kind of work we did. People started having problems in their 30s and only a few lasted beyond 45. I got out early but still have problems..

    Carrie Roettger
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked at a national chain pet store and I let the managers know that I'm an insulin dependent diabetic so I'd absolutely need any breaks or lunches I was due for. I wasn't allowed to bring my insulin to work and near the time I left I would be the only one besides one manager to either open or close the entire store, feed, water, clean up, and administer any meds the animals needed and run the cash register. I ended up in the hospital in diabetic ketoacidosis. I could very well have died because of the managers incompetence and lack of care.

    #20

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' There is the phrase, "buy nice or buy twice." It basically means that you should buy the nicer product because you'll need to replace it less often. For those people who can't "buy nice" they are forced to buy an inferior product multiple times. An example is work boots. A $100 pair of boots may last 5 years. A $20 pair of boots may last 6 months. If you can't afford $100 boots then by the time 5 years is up, you would have already spent $200 on cheap boots.

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    Foxxy (The Original)
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Geez, would be great if my hubby's work Boots lasted 5 years. We are lucky if they last a year and they cost about $120-$150.

    Mr. Derpy Dino
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    haha! my shoes barely last a year, even though i buy $40 ones(im careless) but what my dad uses is buy once cry once.

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    Nicole Weymann
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And half the time you walk around with shitty shoes, because you'll wear them as long as you can before investing again.

    Troy Parr
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Buying "nice" doesn't mean buying a brand name. As "branded" goods can still be made elsewhere cheaply. Buying nice should mean knowing enough about the product and being able to examine it for quality and choice of materials, to assess it's durability.

    M Kate McCulloch
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've solved that problem by buying thrift. I can buy slightly used $200 shoes that will last years for $5. Thrift buy in good neighborhoods when you can find them and don't think of it as second hand or used - think of it as Upcycling!

    Grumble O'Pug
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now you can’t find well made stuff. My L.L. Bean snow boots from 2004 finally died this winter. They no longer make a similar boot: just garbage fashion boots or those awful rubber/leather things. I have to go to Salomon to get the same boot: 400% increase (and I’m not poor)

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    #21

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Not having a kitchen and having to rely on fast food for all your meals.

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    Mohsie Supposie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... and the poor health that come with it...

    Olly
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Been there; am so grateful that Wal-Mart sells cooked meals! Not sure how nutritious it was, but it was hot.

    Johnny
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was just out of college and struggling to get by, I rented a room in a garage without cooking facilities, and cooked my meals on a hotplate (which you can buy at Walmart for $15 or Goodwill for a few dollars) and a couple pots that I found for free. Without a refrigerator, meals were limited, but you can still cook a fair amount of stuff without refrigeration (lots of pasta) and it's still better than fast food. I eventually found a free small 'fridge at the side of the road that greatly expanded my menu.

    judy baker
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you can afford it and have the room, purchase a mini fridge, compact microwave and a hot plate. I've seen the fridge advertised for as low as $49 same with a microwave. Saw a hot plate for as low as $6.99.

    Terri Rimmer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The stress of having to go to food banks and trying to find a way to get there and back because you don't have a car.

    El Dee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least fast food is more expensive than real food here. But that's just because fast food is super expensive..

    Jon S.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Recently I was really surprised to learn that in some places it is normal to to have a kitchen in your apartment.

    #22

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' In certain parts of British Columbia, you have to pay a fine if you're caught panhandling. Homeless people literally have to pay money for asking for money.

    wash-those-hands , Michal Matlon Report

    Bill
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Downtown Vancouver. The argument against safe injection sites

    EQXL
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rotterdam in the Netherlands have rules like this, however they got to this when the amount of beggers grew significantly and they found out that a begger could earn an easy 350 euro's a day.

    Tame panda
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But some panhandlers only act like poor but aren't (only some panhandlers)

    Truth Monster
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Weeeellll....ok, there's homeless and then there are panhandlers. While there are people in distress and we should help them, many panhandlers are actually frauds who, after a day of waving their signs, get in their cars and go home to their homes with their tax-free money. If you want to help the homeless/distressed, find a reputable charity and donate to them.

    a very smol kitteh
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    that is very bad they have to change that law

    StrawberryParfait
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not all homeless are panhandlers, and not all pan handlers are homeless. There are quite a few regular panhandlers in downtown Vancouver running a daily scam. Years ago there was a old guy with a beard who would stand on a corner in his bare feet, with his hand out, no matter the weather. I watched one day as his wife pulled up in a fancy car, popped the trunk so he could throw his backpack in, and picked him up after his shift. I prefer to donate to homeless shelters and charities, who will ensure the money will go where it will do the most good.

    Carol Emory
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's so wrong considering the number of homeless people we saw there on our last trip.

    Pervinca
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, in some countries that have a good welfare sistem, with minimum income, money for unemployment, help programs, etc. this make sense. I don't know about the policy of Canada, but if the state help you come out of poverty (like it is in some countries) with money and programs, there is no need of begging.

    María Hermida
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Spain, homeless people were fined during the lockdown because the were in the street. it's just so kafkaesque! The system is rotten, but we continue feeding it.

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    #23

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Renting to own anything is really bad. You pay 4X the value of whatever it is you're renting to own. And if you miss a payment they repossess it and someone else might start at the beginning of attempting to pay for it again. Not only that you very well might be paying 4X the new value for a used item. And only low quality items are sold rent to own. Ashley furniture, sh*tty used cars, the cheapest big screen tvs available at wholesale. Houses might be better, but rent a center, and JD Byrider are worse than loan sharks.

    rhb4n8 , alexblock Report

    Olly
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate to admit it, but most of my furniture I found in a dumpster.

    Bill
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And a lot of stuff is refurbished and last years build

    somnomania
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    refurbished isn't bad, not like it used to be twenty years ago, and look at mister hoity-toity "last years build". my phone and computer are both 5+ years old and going strong, because i know how to repair them.

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    CincyReds
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    JD Byrider is the worst. They are almost predatory lending.

    El Dee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really do HATE to say this but you NEVER get ANYTHING repossessed for missing ONE payment. They'd rather you paid, they'd rather you caught up, they'd rather keep you as a customer. By the time anything has been repossessed you have been paying for a LOONG time..

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    #24

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' I once had to pay money so I could set up a payment plan because I had no money. Because I was to broke I had a bunch of late fees so a 100 dollar ticket ended up being around 1500 when all was said and done

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    Sue User
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once was trying to set up a payment plan with a utility. We went through how much money was coming in and expenses. They said " wait, your expenses are bigger than your income". I replied " why do you think we are talking ? "

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    Kimberly Young
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reminds me of when I had to make a $200 payment to Verizon so my parents could get their own phone plan when I moved away because their credit was so bad. If I hadn't offered to pay it for them, there's no way they could've afforded it.

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    #25

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' My car has a leaky seal on the transmission. It'd be about $250 to replace the seal and flush the transmission. I don't have $250, so I keep topping up the fluid and keep driving it because I'll never get $250 if I don't get to work. But, in time, that's going to destroy the transmission, which will be about $1200 to replace.

    pokey1984 , Martin Cathrae Report

    Johnny
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did you try a transmission stop-leak product? They don't always work, but could let you defer the work for a year or more.

    Bill
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plus about 2000 for labor on a front wheel drive car

    Mr. Derpy Dino
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which is the only downside to this car, or any FWD car.

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    Mark Kelly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Glad I get cheap car parts and have a garage and tools.

    Mark Kelly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    get that leak stop stuff, it might work.

    Guy MacGregor
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    Maybe, but putting an image of one of the world most reliable car on this story is ironic ^^

    Joey Marlin
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not according to lists I've read... 🤷‍♂️

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    #26

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' When bank fees are waived if you keep more than $X amount in your account, but they start charging for the account when the amount drops under the minimum.

    backwoodshippy , sharonmccutcheon Report

    Mohsie Supposie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... and that makes the amount fall more below the minimum, making it even harder to stay above the minimum the next month.

    Bender Bending Rodríguez
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you are experiencing this. Please show around for bank accounts, many many banks offer 0 minimum balance accounts where fees are waived if you have direct deposit or completely no fees but lesser free services. See which services are you use most if those falls in free services you don't need anything to keep an account. Usually smaller banks are better than national banks such as BOA or Chase. If you think smaller banks don't have ATMs in other states. That is true small banks not have many ATMS but think how many times you need ATMs very far away from your home. Even if you need money far from home, most stores offer cash back, utilize that. No one needs to pay service fee, minimum balance fees for an account. There are options...shop around. Compare what different banks - small and big - to offer you.

    Grumble O'Pug
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or you are required to have extra accounts like savings or a credit card.

    Crycket
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to leave my bank because they kept upping that amount and not telling anyone..so fees...no feels

    M Kate McCulloch
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    switch banks - not all of them do this. Credit unions only do this on special interest earning accounts...

    Mari Bryant
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So get another account? Not all accounts are like this.

    Mark Kelly
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    pfft my bank doesn't do that.

    #27

    Not being able to afford preventative care can get expensive fast. Be it cars, homes, bodies, or relationships.

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    #28

    This has probably been said already, but good cooking. For us, middle class now, it's easy to assemble a meal from what is in the pantry and freezer supplemented by what's in our garden or in the stores within three blocks of my house. It feels thrifty, healthy, sensible. But to get to this point took a lot of investment. We have pots and pans, spices, flour, oils, vinegars, bags and cans of staples, grills, steamer, measuring devices galore. We have the knowledge of cooking that comes from being able to afford to learn what we liked by going to restaurants, and having the spare time to watch cooking shows, and the energy to cook everyday because we don't have two jobs each with long commutes. And if you don't have $500 to put together a basic kitchen, or secure private cooking space so that your investment won't immediately be soiled or stolen, you're likely going to be eating a lot of fast food. And that isn't the most nutritious foundation for the next day.

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    Verena Gitterle
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You learned what you like by going to restaurants?

    Lunar Bicycle
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That makes perfect sense. I grew up in a household that made the same few meals, day after day, year after year. As an adult I discovered many things in restaurants that I never knew about as a child. On a side note, I haven’t had to eat meatloaf since 1989!

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    Grumble O'Pug
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think that when people really step outside their own comfort they might gain empathy.

    Carrie Roettger
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok so my family was on food stamps for a while and yes, the cheap convenience foods are easier to buy and prepare, we didn't buy a lot of those. We'd buy gravy mixes and a couple of hamburger helpers a month, easy stuff our kids could make if we had to work late. Most of what we bought and made (and still make) was from scratch. I think a lot of the problem is that so.e people have never been taught how to cook or even shop for groceries. My husband and I both learned early on how to cook. I learned how to shop before we had to go on food stamps by feeding 5 people on $60 a week (1998 ish). We decided our kids boy and girl) would know how to cook, clean, do laundry, basic car care and how to shop before they left our house. It IS hard though.

    Arctic Fox Lover
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ummm... being middle-class isn't bad at all. In fact, it's kind of my family and I's dream. My mom's friend from church was super kind to us last summer and she allowed us to stay at her little cottage for a week. The cottage was near some water and it was in a great place, so it was amazing. I thought her and her husband were rich. Turns out they were middle-class! And they were able to keep their own house and this cottage stable, even letting people stay over for a week.

    Susan Mercurio
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a homeless person, I have for some weird reason been given much more than my usual amount of Food Stamps. I immediately went out and bought all of the condiments I need to cook the different kinds of cuisine I like. Toasted sesame oil, anchovy paste, red and white wine vinegar... It really helped with that capital input you need to get started.

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    #29

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' A filling is cheaper than a root canal.

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    Rowlie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will have a nightmare with this photo as the main character

    M Kate McCulloch
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought, at first, I was seeing teeth growing out of that poor woman's lip! LOL... Mirrors can be deceptive...

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    Rissie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Removing is even cheaper, so that was considered normal when my parents grew up.

    Nini Meow
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know root canal but I have a tooth filling working 10 years now

    OhForSmegSake
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Studies have found that poor dental health tends to lead to poor heart health too.

    bryguy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not every filling requires a root canal, and this has nothing to do with rich or poor, it depends on the condition of the infection and the root.

    I want cake
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But when you can't afford the filling, you tend to end up needing the root canal

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    somnomania
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and sometimes you need a root canal anyway; they're solutions to slightly different problems

    Mark Kelly
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here in Canada though we have free medical care not dental so I go to those free dental care day. I should buy insurance.

    Magpie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An extraction is cheaper, but that can leave you with problems in chewing and talking. Which will lead to more difficulty getting work, and health issues. By the time it is agony large amount of work has to be done.

    a very smol kitteh
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it is really, my parents had to do root canal one way or another

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    #30

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' If you’re poor you already have no or very little money to invest in yourself, so you have to take on debt to do so. If you want to get technical certifications or degrees. Sometimes there’s financial assistance but a lot of the time taking on loans is necessary.

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    Grumble O'Pug
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WSJ on youtube did an article on the cost of education in the US for public colleges. It’s a viscous circle.

    NMN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's ridiculous to call them public when you have to pay tuition either way. Where I grep up, public means free of charge (and they are also the best Unis education quality wise)

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    #31

    I always get this realization when I am at airports, especially in the USA. If you want to purchase good, healthy food you easily have to spend $20+, for example on a salad. At the same time, you get a greasy hamburger and even greasier fries for $10. Don’t have the money to buy a salad? Well, just buy some unhealthy food and live with the consequences as you gain weight and your health deteriorates. Meanwhile... if you happen to have access to a Centurion Lounge, you can just grab any good food you like and you are not paying anything at all. Some good meat, a few veggies and a glass of wine for... $0. Yes, it’s expensive to be poor - especially in the USA.

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    Nicole Weymann
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You basically have to pay for freedom. Poor people lack not only money but also lose choices and time.

    Legen ( wait for it ) dary
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yesssss, this. When you have money you can choose, when not, you get only what your money can pay or what is offered to you.

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    Spork420
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Regardless of money or health, anyone paying $20+ for a salad is insane.

    Johnny
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can afford airport food but very little of it is really "healthy", so I almost always pack a sandwich or something to eat in the airport or on the plane, along with an empty bottle that I can refill in the airport. I can usually get in an airport lounge, but again, the food there isn't that healthy and I usually just eat some snacks, if anything. But the lounge experience while waiting for a plane is a huge perk of not being poor.

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    #32

    I went through a lot of the top answers and didn't see anyone talking about getting tickets from police/city fines. Especially because there are so many that aren't really justified For rich people that sh*t is like a mosquito on a t-rex

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    EQXL
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    O gotta love Switzerland where the height of fines are based on your income.

    T.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately you're wrong. But Finland has speeding tickets linked to income. Also I'd like to add, that every punishment which is a fine, only applies to the poor.

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    Felix Feline
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked for awhile as a cop while in law school. Most of the cops I worked with would go out of their way to NOT ticket a Jaguar or Mercedes driver, but would chuckle with glee when they ticketed someone who was driving a beater: "They won't be eating for a month after paying that!" Meanwhile, the rich person would just sneer at the cop. I never understood this need to hurt the poor and to reward the rich.

    NMN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone was so distraught about what you said that they gave you a downvote. Sometimes I feel like that, some ugly reality is happening and I can't do much about it

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    Lunar Bicycle
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A rich friend of mine simply never pays for parking. She doesn’t like the inconvenience and the occasional $65 parking ticket is pocket change for her.

    Nicole Weymann
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read somewhere that Finland adjusts (traffic) fines to the offender's income. I LOVE THAT!

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    #33

    Owning a car. If you can't afford the basic maintenance then a catastrophic issue is not a matter of if, but when.

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    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate that. You often need a car to get a job (to get there) but you often dont have the money to buy it or pay the insurance, gas, taxes, and repairs.

    Olly
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I couldn't afford to find out what the squeeking noise was; turned out my brakes were worn all the way down! Found out only after my car failed to stop!

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    #34

    not being able to buy in bulk and save money in the long run

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    #35

    Being poor and having a high metabolism (especially if you’re trying to be healthy) is a horrific combination.

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    #36

    Your health. Poor people with lack of resources are susceptible to diabetes, heart disease, mental illness, poor school etc.

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    #37

    Can't afford to buy good quality..anything..so I end up having to replace stuff more often. Like undies or shoes. A good bra costs a f**king fortune too. I have a bad back and I need a new good mattress but they are just straight up out of reach for me, way more than I could even save for. So I end up with more back pain than I should have, which means more pain killers and doc appts and having to get people to so stuff for me like mow the lawn. I have a dinky little aircon that uses more power than a more expensive model because he's working his ass off trying to take the edge off - If I can even afford to run the f**king thing. Put the cheapest fuel in my car, led to engine problems. Psychiatrists cost a fortune and I just plain can't afford to see one unless my family covers the cost for me.

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    #38

    Go buy food in the hood and compare the prices to the suburbs. Way more

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    John C
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, city prices vs suburb prices are very different - for food, rent, taxes, and everything else. This is an area thing, not an income thing.

    Sonia Bailey
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No - it is very much an income thing - the deomgraphics of the area will set pricing.

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    #39

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' CANT MAKE A $20,000 DOWNPAYMENT?! HERE’S A POOR PERSON OPTION THAT COSTS 600x MORE!!!!!!

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    bryguy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What am I missing here? The wording on this post and the picture don't really explain anything. Can't afford $20,000 here's a poor person option for $12,000,000? What???

    Sum Guy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The system is made so that the banks can take some of your money and also the house. Rich people don't make money for the banks since they can't take both money and house from them

    Johnny
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I assume you're talking about a house -- if you can't make a downpayment, can you really afford to own a house? Houses can be expensive to maintain and since the bank is doing to own 80% - 95% of the house, they want to make sure you'll be able to maintain it.

    #40

    Everything is expensive when you're poor. Jokes aside, this is true. I've been poor for most of my life and I'm still not in a great financial situation. And the biggest problem is that you not only don't have a lot of money, but all the prices stay the same, so literally ANYTHING that you buy feels like a fortune. I walked to the grocerie store do buy some stuff to make a special dinner on my daughter's birthday and I spent about R$100,00 (about 20 dollars I think, Idk), and I swear I'd win an oscar for how I kept my poker face. The second I walked out of the store I bursted out crying. Everyone on the street could see me crying as I walked back home. Seeing my daughter's smile later that day during dinner made me feel a lot better, but those R$100 ($20) REALLY hurt...

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    Becca Gizmo the Squirrel
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And food stamps is a trap. I read where a family had decided the woman would not work because the amount they had in food stamps was more than she would make in a month, but if she did work the food stamps would be lowered way down. So they were better off with her not working. And he could only make so much in a year because they would be kicked off medicaid. So it is a cycle that keeps you poor. If he made a few hundred dollars a year, then they would have to pay thousands in health insurance. And she said why work part time (while raising kids) for $400 a month when they can get $600 in food stamps if she does not work. Not to mention daycare. When I was making minimum wage I got paid about $280 a week minus taxes. Daycare was about $85 a week. $120 for two kids. Seems kinda pointless to work just to pay for daycare so you can work.

    somnomania
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the problem is that all of the welfare programs are designed to both keep you poor and avoid giving you money if at all possible. my mom could easily qualify for disability, but that would put us over the income threshold for food stamps, medicare/medicaid, heating assistance, etc. also dang, we're currently getting about $600/month in food stamps and have been since last summer because of the pandemic; before that we got about $75/month for a household of three, it was so dumb.

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    Matheus Oliveira
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly! I remember when, younger, my parents got me a birthday cake for R$50. Knowing a little bit about things already back then, I literally cried. Not to mention that health care in our country is pretty expensive as well and the abusive taxes (that should finance the universal health system) never gets directed where it should.

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    #41

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Tires! Used tires cost 1/3 price and get about 20% of the life of a new tire. Also you are paying mount and balance every time, plus worry about blow outs. Even a new tire at $80 with a 30K mileage expectancy or a $100 tire at 65k mileage warranty. Over twice the life, little more than 20% in extra charge.

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    Bill
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Only 100 per tire? Don't buy a pick up

    John C
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, great advice. Do not buy a pickup. For this and other reasons (we can start with safety and the environment and go from there)

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    #42

    The laundromat! My washer broke and holy sh*t, thats pricey. Shopping... I get to drive around and go to the cheapest stores. Ironically the 2 chain grocery stores near the projects are the priciest ones.

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    Heather Menard
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also you have to buy more of everything so it will last all month before you can get to the laundry. A month with of socks, underwear, towels,sheets,ect.

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    #43

    I've seen numerous people buy a new car because they can afford a payment but not a $1,200 repair.

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    Mohsie Supposie
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did that too! Repairs on the car were starting to get a bit too much. Luckily got a 0% finance on a much newer used car with a small deposit.

    Tim Haight
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wehn the warranty on my car expired it would have cost $2k for a new warranty. This is about the time the car starts to fall apart. Cheaper to lease a new car with a warranty

    John C
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep - when your current car costs you more every month to maintain than a new one would, it's time. That's just common sense.

    #44

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Food desserts, where everything at the single grocery store for miles around is marked WAY the hell up because its shoppers usually pay in food stamps and/or have nowhere else to go. Laundry. Imagine needing an entire morning/afternoon to load and lug your sh*t to a hot building and feeding machines quarter after quarter after quarter while being tethered to the spot so your stuff won't get stolen.

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    kathoco
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Food deserts. Though the picture looks like a lovely food dessert.

    bryguy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love going out to the local food restaurants and after my food entrées I get a food desert just like this!

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    Foxxy (The Original)
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wish our laundromats cost a quarter. Costs $1-$2 every 15 mins in the dryer and $2-3 per (basic) wash.

    Becca Gizmo the Squirrel
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm thinking theirs costs that much to wash too, they jyst pay in quarters. Mine broke down a few years ago and I spent one day at the laundry mat and spent about $20. Next day I rented a new dryer, cost me way more in the long run but at least I could do laundry at home. Here is a tip for people renting/buying appliances: rent to own places will sell used furniture/appliances that they can no longer rent out. I don't know if they have a certain number of times they could be rented out or what, but I straight up bought my washer there for $100 cash, but I had to rent the dryer until I paid it off, about $40 a month for like a freaking year.

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    Legen ( wait for it ) dary
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Go out with 2 kids and have to take everything they may want to eat and drink because you can't afford that they ask you a cake or a bread from the bakery .because a croissant there is 1.20 and at the supermarket is 0.45 .cents

    Rutilly Oro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a washer/ dryer at home but sometimes its better to spend the money and get everything done in an hour than to do it at home in one day for 6 hours. I have 6 kids so there's a lot of washing/drying happening. But I can see how some people may struggle with paying , I had to pay almost 60$ once , it's insane

    NMN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It might not be common where you live, but there are machines that are 2 in 1. One single machine, front load, that washes and dries, time programmable. I Would put the load before bed and set to be all done, washed and dried, by when I woke up. Where I lived they don't even sell front loads that are not the 2 in 1 type. Saves money and space, highly recommend

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    #45

    Cant afford to go to the doctor. Get sick to the point where i HAVE to go to the doctor. Would have been cheaper to go when i first got sick.

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    somnomania
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    too expensive lmao. most people who would like to move elsewhere can't even afford to move to a different state.

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    #46

    Banking. It has always blown my mind how predatory banks are on lower income people while all the people with plenty of money get every fee possible waived even though they can easily afford it.

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    #47

    Being unable to buy things in cash means financing multiple purchases at once. So someone could (theoretically) have monthly payments for a school laptop, car, apartment, furniture, large applianve like a fridge, CareCredit balances for unexpected medical needs, and credit cards for past emergencies they're still paying off. This puts such a squeeze on the smaller income that when the next unexpected expense comes along, like a car repair or AC blowing, it has nowhere to go but on credit making the hole even deeper.

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    #48

    No money to invest in a retirement fund, stock market, etc. With inflation you're losing money, if you have any saved up at all.

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    Legen ( wait for it ) dary
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will consider that I'm saving money once I get on the side enough to pay just the rent for 1 year in case something happens, so I don't become homeless. Have a roof over our head it's my only priority, the rest I will think about later.

    Brett Layton
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    just saying you can take that money invest it in something tried and true and come out with more in the same time frame. Prime examples would be companies like Coca Cola ( KO ) , Ford Motors ( F) , Amazon (AMZN) , and really any big global company . They arent going to double your money but if you sock away $500 over the next 6 months invest it and let it sit there for 6 more months you end up with easily 550-600 . Thats not alot I know but it compounds and grows over time. Personally I invested in Volkswagen when they had the big diesel emmissions scandal , my reasoning is this is the #1 or 2 ca r maker in the world they arent goign to go under but their stock sure did. 3 years later my initial 1k investment is now worth 3.2k. Also fractional shares are a thing so you can start with as little as $100. maybe less.

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    somnomania
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i'm not even allowed to save my money! :) i mean, i could, but only up to about $1000, otherwise i'd lose my disability.

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    #49

    Smoking Cigarettes. You're poor, you're depressed guess what cigarettes offer? A small dopamine hit that make you feel better, tobacco also contains small amounts of MAOI's (a type of anti-depressant) yay not only do you get that dopamine you also get some treatment. The cost? The actual cost of the cigarettes and being addicted to them means you need them all the time, cancer, heart disease etc/they hurt your health so more time off work for some, death for others, if in the US big medical bills. More poor people smoke than rich people, the poorer you are the more likely you are to smoke so all those cigarette taxes that are meant to dissuade you from smoking is quite literally taxing the poor. Don't smoke people, I did for 22 years and almost died from it, luckily I'm in Canada with a social healthcare system or I'd be in massive medical debt.

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    Foxxy (The Original)
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Worse in Australia, a cheap packet of 30 cigarettes will cost you around $50. And it's not easy to give up so a lot of the poor either go without food to pay for their addiction or steal. Fortunately I quit but I know how difficult it is.

    Bill
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Australian cigarettes are pretty rough compared to American smokes.

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    #50

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' Debt. Basically if you're poor you need to borrow some money to either get a house or buy food and after a while the debt keeps getting bigger and bigger

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    #51

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' As an example: buying sh*tty shoes every 3 months because it constantly breaks is more costly than a rich person buying ultra-expensive shoes that will last for the rest of his life.

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    Becca Gizmo the Squirrel
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are missing the point. If you don't have the $100 or so bucks for new shoes you can't buy the expensive ones!! You buy the $20 and wear them a few months.

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    #52

    Healthcare. Was poor basically my whole life and now have to pay thousands for surgeries and the health insurance covers almost nothing.

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    #53

    simply having a checking account can get you fee'd into the ground for being in the ground already

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    Tuna Fish
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    that which banks generate from any fees charged on their deposit accounts. The total amount of such fee income created by banks in 2015 was a whopping $34.6B. Shockingly, that amount of fee income averages out to about $107 per American (323.6M people), including every man, woman, and child, account holder or not. That would be about $4.75 per person if calculated for the entire world’s population. Those are steep numbers, and that’s just for one year’s worth of bank fees! - taken from https://www.depositaccounts.com/blog/banks-income-fees.html

    NMN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where I grew up they have by law an "essentials" basic checking/savings account, that banks are not allowed to charge you for. And they must give you a few free things like debit card, a specific number of atm withdrawals per month and a few other things.

    #54

    Shopping at Aaron's and Rent-a-center. My parents waste so much money paying lower monthly payments when they could just save up to buy furniture upfront, which would cost way less in the long run.

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    somnomania
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the difference is fixed income. if you only get a set amount of money coming in each month, you have to budget it accordingly, and saving is often not an option at all.

    #55

    You put off regular service for your car and, eventually, that creates a bigger problem. You can pay as much in rent as somebody else does for a mortgage payment. But you don’t have anything to show for it in the end.

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    #56

    Driving a beater to and from work. Yeah, you could be spending more on a car payment. Or you could spend 5-10k (that you don't really have or saved up for a long time to get) to get something not on a dealer lot that runs good. Or you could buy a 30 year old POS for $500-1k because that's what you've got (and public transportation isn't an option for you) and be replacing $20-$200 parts every couple weeks just to keep the damn thing running. It's even worse if you have a job as a delivery driver.

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    #57

    30 People Respond To 'In What Way Is It Expensive To Be Poor?' In every way. You can only afford stuff that breaks, can't afford good health care which will lead to bigger health problems. Stressed about how how you will be able to afford rent/stuff.

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    Couldn’t afford a car, so my commute to and from work added an extra hour on a bus. That extra hour ate into my day and made it difficult to run basic errands like buying groceries. Ended up paying extra to have them delivered so I could free up some time for myself. I would have to take days off to handle doctors appointments/DMV/anything else which equaled lost wages. I was stuck in a position that required me to go back to school to earn a living wage, but taking night classes and juggling full time work would be nearly impossible without transportation, so I stayed at an underpaid job longer than I had intended until I could save enough to take the financial leap. I’m currently in 60k worth of school debt which equals more than I make annually. I also lived in a high cost of living area, but moving wasn’t feasible due to not having reliable transportation. I paid more rent and for other necessities for having the convenience of being centrally located to a job. Oh and, preventative health care was not a thing growing up. I have thousands of dollars worth of dental work needed for my teeth that I’ve barely even started on. Those $100 dentist visits that my parents never bothered to schedule now have equaled thousands of dollars worth of root canals, fillings, and crowns.

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