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High cost, not the highest quality — that’s how most people describe the healthcare system in the US. After all, Americans spend more on health emergencies than people elsewhere, yet the US trails far behind other high-income countries on access to care, administrative efficiency, equity, and outcomes. But while anyone who has experience with the system can tell you how expensive it can be, they always hold a dash of hope to receive fair treatment. Something they usually don’t get.

That’s precisely what happened to writer and reporter Marisa Kabas. Last year, she kicked off a viral thread by sharing her infuriating story on Twitter. "How do I know weight stigma in health care is real?" she asked. Well, a mango-sized fibroid growing in her uterus overlooked by every single doctor she ever consulted gives a hint. And what’s even more disturbing? Most medical professionals dismissed her symptoms as signs that she needed to lose weight.

The woman’s thread sparked an important conversation and inspired thousands of women to chime in with their stories. From similar cases with weight-biased attitudes to simply unfortunate situations, we’ve gathered some of the most upsetting and illuminating responses to share with you all. Continue scrolling to read through the responses, and if you would like to participate in the discussion, be sure to share your experiences with us in the comments.

Writer Marisa Kabas has gone viral on Twitter after sharing how several doctors ignored her physical symptoms due to her weight

Her story inspired other women to chime in with similar experiences, here’s what they had to say

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JJ(they/them)
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone recovering from a car accident, WTF? I didn't have anything near this level and was still treated well, especially after an anxiety attack. Now i don't look feminine, maybe that's it? It breaks my heart the lives that could have been better/saved if doctors would shut up and listen

Pumpkin Spice
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Help, I cracked my skull open." "Are you sure it's not just PMS?"

Ozacoter
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went for a series of tests to a cardiologist as part of the process of diagnosing CFS (which is discarding other illneses). He forgot to write in the report that both of my grandpa and grandma had heart issues but wrote three times that he considers that i need to lose weight. Priorities

RJ
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When it comes to weight.... Medical Professionals are just as bad as anyone one the street. Their skills, special training, education, years of practice and those multiple awards for wearing a white lab coat don't really come in to play when the person they are looking at is obese (SOURCE - Personal Experience). There's some sort of button or switch in them that compels them to start with the weight. I mean... that's what caused the burns and fractured sternum, right?

Wick E. Scratch
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a time and place to bring up someone's weight in a medical setting. The E.R. is neither of those. In that setting, there's something going on that needs attention and needs it now. While weight could be a factor in why they are there, they aren't going to lose the weight magically right there in the ER (unless, I guess, they lose a leg or something......). I have never heard of anyone going to the Emergency Room with their chief complaint being "I'm overweight/obese". A regular, non-emergency, non-urgent appointment would be a time and place for them to do so. Or even during a followup from the ER, or possibly maybe sometimes it may be OK during ER discharge.

Felicia Dale
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An acquaintance told me about the emergency room Dr who pointed out that she was obese while she was actively bleeding out from a huge jagged cut on her arm.

Id row
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are a scary amount of bad doctors out there who should not be treating patients.

A Jones
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's highly inappropriate and unprofessional.

Jackie Bromley
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Believe me this is happening in England too, I'm fed up with feeling run down and exhausted all the time and the constant pain has become unbearable. I have been passed around so many doctors over the years and not one of them has investigated me thoroughly enough to find out what's going on with me. Is it because I'm a 61yr old female who's now passed her sell by date? Or could it be that I cannot do the exercises recommend because I'm in too much pain and fatigued? I'm at a loss.

deanna woods
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless your weight had something to do with the wreck, this was a very stupid move by the doctor.

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    Jen T
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is actually really smart.

    Sheila Weila
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hospital refused to help with a torn retina (needs treatment within 24-48 hours) on Christmas Eve, but when i asked that they sign a document saying they refused to call an ophthalmologist, they got me an appointment with a specialist.

    James G. Currie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definately makes suing them easier. Sometimes it is a zebra, not a horse! That being said, how the effing hell does someone whom graduated Med School eff-up diagnosing an appendix, since contact with the area is excrutiating!

    AK to LV
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The old saying of 'what do you call the person who graduated last in his class at medical school.....Doctor'🙄

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    Sterrinatu
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was 16 when my appendix almost burst. I happened to be on my period when the pain started. As soon as the DR heard that he immediately said "well it must be menstrual pain" and sent me home without running any tests. I returned the next day with my appendix about to rupture and was rushed into surgery where they discovered my ovary was bleeding. I could have died from internal bleeding that night.

    piruoztek
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bad is if it won't have any consequences even if they prove it was doctor's fault. In my country it always end like that. 😡

    Bubs623
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another good thing to do is when you ask for a test or treatment and they refuse, watch them mark your chart and document they refused said test. Doctors don't like to do that, so usually they'll order the test. It helps.

    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well patients have to sign a refusal of treatment, seems fair doctors do the same.

    Tiggerdk
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Daughter at age 3 complaining of a stomach ache and had a 104° temp. Dr just out of residency decides it is an ear infection because I told my 5yr old we would get him Micky D's for lunch before being dropped off at school. Being a sibling , she wanted a happy meal too. Two days later, an older dr listened to me when I asked if it could be her appendix. She called a ped specialist and after an iv and xray we went to the hospital. (dr wanted baby to have an iv administered because she was dehydrated, I requested films be done because it would've taken hours once we got to hospital) Hand off films to ped specialist, she comes back to tell me an ambulance is on it's way from Sinai. She needs her appendix removed. Not quite 30mins after she is taken into surgery, surgeon comes out to say it had ruptured before they opened her up. So have no idea when it actually ruptured. Next morning I'm coming back to my baby's room and find the dr who actually diagnosed ear infection lifting her g

    BatPhace
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bs, you don't survive a burst appendix.

    Dylan Toeback
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You absolutely can, an infection will have to be addressed but it is definitely possible.

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    "Everything seems fine! Come back again in a few months if you’re still having trouble," is something thousands of women around the world would do anything not to hear again. Yet, they experience it multiple times. Far too often, women can’t shake the feeling that something is not quite right with their bodies and turn to healthcare professionals hoping to find answers and some peace of mind. But unfortunately, doctors often let them down by downplaying or downright dismissing their worries.

    Kabas’ viral thread has reached thousands of women who chimed in with extremely infuriating answers that show just how frequently physicians fail to provide proper treatment. For many, these stories act as a wake-up call about the seriously flawed medical system and the reality of how common it is for women’s concerns to be ignored because of deeply-rooted gender stereotypes.

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    Kel_how
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had acid reflux since I was 6 or 7. I once told a doctor about it, wanting to look for solutions. He told me I was too young to have it and my weight was the problem. Same doctor also said my flu-like pms was "normal."

    Vaa10
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had the same thing since I was a kid and one of the doctors said that I was only pretending having acid reflux because I knew my dad had!!!

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    RandomPanda
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've noticed from a lot of similar posts that doctors seem to have this idea that kids and women can't feel pain/ it's all in their head/it's because of weight.

    Tessb90
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I spent all of 2020 + 2021 being completely immobilised due to pain, I would literally scream if someone lightly touched my arm or leg, I had about 20% lung capacity, had no feeling at skin level, all I could feel was pressure. It felt like my bones were on fire 24/7. Insomnia to the point that I might get 8 hours of sleep a week. My GP diagnosed it as psychosomatic, and refused to deviate from this diagnosis, after six months of begging for help I found a pain clinic nearby, that my GP apparently had no idea that they existed, up until I asked for a referral, turns out he knew them well and refers patients there all the time. Pain clinic got my GP's diagnosis from the referral, and as amazing as my pain doctor was, it mostly ended up being counselling sessions, after several failed attempts at ketamine infusions. There was that little blood flow in my limbs the machine kept deciding I wasn't connected. Self diagnosed with CIRS due to prolonged exposure to toxic mould.

    Tessb90
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not yet 12 months into recovery, but I can feel my fingertips again. Not going to lie, I may have cried the day that it came back.

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    Powerful Katrinka
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was in my late thirties, I was told that I was too young to get hip replacement surgery. I was in a wheelchair by that point, because it was too excruciating to walk.

    Injun Joe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't stand when people say something like this. I want to scream at them. How do you know how I feel and how bad it hurts!

    A Jones
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doctors shouldn't judge. They're supposed to evaluate then treat the issue. It is a BIG RED FLAG if a doctor can't tell the difference between judging and evaluation!

    ButterflyMcQueen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People have been saying this to me for over a decade, often with no knowledge of what kind of pain I'm in or my actual age. 😐

    Tessb90
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's really f****d up the way they just tell you that you are not in pain, despite you knowing that you are in absolute agony. Elimination self diagnosis via internet searches sadly seems to be more effective than any actual doctor...

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    phil blanque
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For the most part, I respect medical professionals, but I often remember a question a physician friend asked me: "Do you know what they call the person who graduates LAST in his medical school class?"......."Doctor.....they call him doctor."

    Talon
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “You’re young, you shouldn’t be complaining” when I told my parents about my knee and back hurting. Before that my chiropractor, who’s helped me through so much of my injuries, told me I had an over flexible spine and tendonitis in my right knee

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly, true. Some irresponsible doctors assume stuff just because they do not seem to get it that no one actually exists to bore them out. Some, despite elite training and years of experience, does not realize patients are human beings, not just whiny or mentally incapable. Luckily, there are still good doctors out there.

    Jodi BottleOf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    UGH! About a month ago I suddenly had problems breathing - first time anything like it has ever happened. It started in the morning, and I finally went to the ER at 8pm. I was only able to take short breaths, which led to hyperventilating & crying, and the cycle kept going as I continued gasping for air. The MALE Dr who saw me asked me if I was thinking about HURTING myself or someone else? I couldn’t talk my condition was so bad, and he felt the need to ask if I knew what happened - like did I perhaps STICK A KNIFE DOWN MY THROAT? And I sure seemed upset - did I need to TALK to someone? …. He wrote down “Panic Attack” on my release papers. I GUARANTEE he looked at my chart, saw that I’m psych meds, and just… went there. …. Turns out I have GERD. (there is stuff in one of my lungs that I’ve ap’ly been aspirating.) It was bad enough that I couldn’t work, talk, eat or sleep. After seeing an ENT & two pulmonologists, the problem was diagnosed, NOT a panic attack!!

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    Matt Atfield
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And often the "fatness" is because of the medical issue.

    Katinka Min
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Womwen, overweight women and if you are actually infertile, you might as well go bury yourself. The lack of interest and respect is mindboggeling.

    James G. Currie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes and no...biggest problem is Modern Medicine is still almost exclusively Men's Medicine, since for centuries, men were discouraged from touching women they are not married to.

    Emma
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True but that doesn't change the fact that society hates women and they don't believe us when we know that something is physically wrong with us.

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    Maryanna Baldridge
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother and grandmother were denied treatment for their gall bladders. My grandma died. When they looked into it they discovered her gall bladder had gone gangrene. When my mother started having pain she had to go to multiple doctors. No one did anything. Once in the emergency room we found a doctor who would look. Her's was gangrene as well. Luckily it was caught in time. Trust your body.

    AmAndA_Panda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was told the 3 biggest risk factors for gall bladder issues is "fat, female, fertile" so when I started having pains my doctor ran every test possible to try to prove it was gall stones. Years, YEARS, of pain so bad I couldn't breathe through it. Because I fit that description. Turned out I had nerve damage to the upper part of my stomach. Not gall stones.

    Aileen Grist
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hear you. My gallbladder was gangrenous by the time it was dealt with. Yet the criteria for gallbladder used to be fair, fat and forty

    Kate
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My hands and feet were cracked and bleeding with what turned out to be psoriasis. The urgent care doctor told me to see a shrink for OCD and not wash my hands so often.

    Gypsy Lee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an ER surgeon tell me fingers don’t have tendons & quit being dramatic as my severed tendons protruded from my injuries. Couldn’t be bothered because there was a cute little 16 year old in the next bed who couldn’t give herself eye drops, & he was the only person who could help her. -Fussing & crying like they were tattooing “princess” on her forehead instead of just putting otc eye drops in her stupid eyes. He spent more time coddling, rubbing her back & calling her honey than actually applying the eye drops. (Her eyes were itchy so she lost her mind) Meanwhile I’m bleeding all over & in lots of actual pain. He comes back after 2 hours to stitch me up with no numbing agent. Completely ignores my assurances that fingers have tendons. End up with two drooping, non functioning fingers that required extensive surgery because I’m in my 40’s, & not a 16 year old with her boo bs hanging out & in short-shorts who can’t handle eye drops. Sadly, very common ER visit.

    Mykidsartrocks
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor woman. I had to deal with that for five years before someone finally.listened to me.

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They really dont care about their patients at all. I have been told today by my doctor that "endometriosis and CFS (chronic fatigue sindrome) dont cause disabilities ". I guess that i am no longer disabled and I will be magically cured. Or more likely that i will live the rest of my life in pain with no help whatsoever from doctors or the government

    Powerful Katrinka
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's absolutely outrageous! CFS (or myalgic encephalomyelitis, which is the newer terminology) is incredibly disabling. Furthermore, every single study points out that ME/CFS is actually one of the most disabling conditions there are. I urge you to seek another opinion from a doctor who has actually worked with patients with ME/CFS. They are out there.

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many MDs are quick to blame just about any chronic symptom on having more adipose tissue (fat) than recommended.

    deanna woods
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He shouldn't be in medicine at all.

    lolliegag69
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a size 0 until I became sick and then I gained a lot of weight. Now that's all anyone sees.

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    "It’s a huge issue in medicine," Dr. Tia Powell, a bioethicist and a professor of clinical epidemiology and population health at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, told the New York Times. According to her, health care providers may have implicit biases that affect the way women are heard, understood, and treated. "Medical schools and professional guidelines are starting to address this problem, but there’s still much to be done."

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    Id row
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women get the short end of the stick on every level.

    Emma
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On every level of every thing in existence.

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    Superninjatiger
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kinda get the miscarriage-thing that the doctors dont react to one or two miscarriages, maybe check if you have two in a row or if you have a hard time getting pregnant and then miscarriage, but it really isnt that rare to have one. Of course it sucks for those who wants the baby, and I'm not saying that it isnt heartbreaking or not a big deal because it is. But its more normal than people think and we shouldnt immediately tell a woman theres something wrong with her body when it happens.

    Tessb90
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    According to most of the medical world Endometriosis is nothing more than a myth

    ItsJess
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have been dealing with painful sex for years, every doctor I've asked about investigating the cause says, "just try lube" like it's something I've never heard of before. My periods are crippling and doctors just shrug it off "that's just how they are for you".

    Upstaged75
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't take that for an answer! I was told "that's just how you are" too and the doctor was WRONG! I had to keep trying until I found someone who would help me. And amazingly once I was treated, my periods were no longer agony for me. I really wish every doctor who doesn't take someone's pain seriously has to experience that pain just once. It would save a lot of time trying to convince them that it's not normal.

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    Pumpkin Spice
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a woman buys Viagra and takes it, will she become the ultimate horny? Or will it f**k with her body?

    Jihana
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neither I guess, Viagra regulates blood flow. It works because men need some blood flow down there for things to work. It does not affect the libido itself.

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    CanadianaKa
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah yes. I remember that "some women have painful periods" I got... When I had Endometriosis so bad the laparoscopy took 90 minutes. And 16 years to diagnose. Yeah, eff you.

    Upstaged75
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was recently told by my OBGYN that my problem was "too big for her to fix". She wrote me off after realizing that I was going to be high maintenance. And after 4 trips to the ER due to agonizing pain she suggested I try Tylenol in addition to Advil. I had to beg for muscle relaxers and then instead of sending those to the pharmacy she re-sent the birth control prescription I had already filled. I have an appointment with a specialist next week, but I had to do the research and find him on my own. And I'm probably going to have to pay about $1000 out of pocket just to be seen. And don't get me started on the male ER doctor who blew me off and wouldn't even look at me until I had ANOTHER ultrasound. Which I refused because I'd already had one that week. I'm seriously ready to kill someone at this point.

    AK to LV
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought it was just painful periods too. I didn't even realize the amount I didn't know until I happened upon a FB group for endo. It really helped knowing others were out there. They recommended Nancy's Nook FB group for info on endo and a list of recommendations for Doctors.

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    Courtney Christelle
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hell, they can get it over the internet now a days.

    Kayla Black
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a FEMALE doctor literally shrug as to why i was having pain in my ovaries and menstrual problems after the results of only a pap and an internal ultrascan came up negative. No more tests after that. Just a shrug "I dont know why you are in pain". Thank GOD my physio worked out that it was a blocked / trapped gland leading to my ovary from a hip injury i had got a few months earlier. He gave me some releasing / massaging exercises and cleared it up.

    Felicia Dale
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A dear friend of mine suffered countless miscarriages over several years. She could get pregnant no problem but never carried a child to term. She kept asking if it could be fibroids but was completely ignored. Later, after a divorce and marriage to a much more supportive partner, he went with her to her next obgyn appointment. When the Dr discounted her extremely painful periods my friend’s husband got out of his chair and stated that his wife was in agony every month, bleeding so much the two of them together could hardly keep up and that last time she’d blacked out and it took forever for him to wake her up. He wanted this diagnosed and fixed right the f now! Turns out she had massive fibroids- the cause of her miscarriages and her horrible periods. Those were dealt with and she was much better but she never had the child she so desperately wanted.

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    Delta Dawn
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mine was found during an annual gyn exam, which wouldn’t necessarily happen today now that they only do them every few years. There’s a lot to be said for a yearly check-in, especially for women in their late 30’s on up, or anyone with pain, irregular bleeding, etc. even if they think they know what’s going on.

    Lizzy Crit
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pap smear doesn't need to be done annually but you should still have an exam

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    K Sarfo
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tell every gynocologist i see that i have trauma and may or may not kick. And that it may or may not be voluntairy, depending on the pain and warning about what they are going to do down there before they do it. And that it is involontairy to say what i have just said. Its because of trauma. It helps alot.

    AmAndA_Panda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband's doctor asked me if his testicle had looked or felt different to me. Which made me blush furiously but it wasn't because he didn't trust my husband. It was because we sometimes see ourselves differently than someone looking at us would.

    Emma
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep internalized misogny is sadly a thing.

    Jodi BottleOf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Holy Shyt! -and asked your husband?! Aw hell naw…

    Monica Sargent
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh my gosh! This just happened to me a week ago! It's a sonogram! Why are they pressing down so hard!?!?

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    Yeah, gonna call BS on the tech scoffing and calling you a wimp. In this day and age? Pfft,

    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F**k you. Sincerely all women who have been neglected by doctors :)

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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    a family can still be complete without human kids or even fur babies. the worst part (especially for straight women) is that they'll be like, oh, what if you find a guy you want to have the child with? like, are you really putting your patients reproductive autonomy in the hands of a man you don't know?

    Well-Dressed Wolf
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m 40. I’m adopted. My bio parents have effed up genetics. I have never wanted, and will never want biological (or even human) children. And I still can’t get a tubal ligation. AT 40. The chances of spontaneous genetic mutations and deformities in a fetus unrelated to familial genetics skyrockets at 40+, but no, sorry, we still won’t do what YOU want to YOUR body. Oh wait, you want boobie implants? Sure, we’ll do THAT, no problem! (I don’t want implants, I’m just using it as a counterpoint XD)

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At this point i am convinced that most gynecologists only care about babies and women giving birth. They dont seem to care at all about our health

    Well-Dressed Wolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can confirm. My (all-female doctors) OBGYN office treats me like a second class citizen and like some kind of freak, because I’m not interested in having babies and I beg for a tubal ligation whenever I go in for an exam/problem. The walls are covered in pictures of the babies they’ve delivered with “Thanks, Dr. XYZ!” written on the frames. It’s actually terrifying. I have horrendous, two-week-long, painful periods that cause migraines. Their solution? “Here, try Nuvaring!” No please just take the whole thing out! I’m 40! I don’t want children!! I need to change doctors… but I’m scared that nothing will be different.

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    Paper A
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What about adoption and volunteering and foster care? There's so many ways to have children in your life after the fact. People just don't respect women's autonomy

    Feminist Percussionist
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right? Pain and health issues are perfectly good reasons not to have biological children (as opposed to adoption/fostering).

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    Jennifer Aydelott
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My last OB declined a hysterectomy during my last c-section because I “might want more”. I explained after abnormal cells I’d rather just have it all taken out to prevent cancer. He looked at my last PAP results that were normal and said no. I mostly never wanted a uterine biopsy ever again because that’s like being electrocuted from the inside.

    AK to LV
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'But it's only supposed to feel like a bad cramp' That's what my female Gyn said to me. What B.S.!!🤬

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    Little Wonder
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was asked if I'd completed my family, I said yes. They asked how many kids I had, I said none. They they offered to delay my hysterectomy so I could "squeeze in a pregnancy first". No thank my guy, no thank you.

    Xenia Harley
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The assumption that everybody wants to have children is really a toxic assumption for MD's to make.

    Jaybird3939
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What is the possibility of "completing your family" with terrible endometriosis? I have 2 cousins with it very badly, and neither one was able to get pregnant.

    Gypsy Lee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to get my husbands permission before they would do my hysterectomy, despite things falling out & nearly bleeding to death. Good thing womens reproductive medical care has improved since then..

    Lena Flising
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who decides what a "complete family" is? My family is me, my husband and it used to be our two cats, but they got old and died. We will probably get new cats in the future, but we haven't been able to produce any children, and we are now over 50, so it's too late for that. Is our family "incomplete", then?

    Samantha Melnychuk
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Keep demanding. Tell them that you will hold them financially responsible for the children while you are unable to handle raising them due to issues with chronic pain. Or due to other reasons you don't want to have children for. I had to keep at it for more than three years, and my doctor knew how messed up I was 'pregnancy can solve lots of problems...' eff that noise.

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    Not only do female patients experience a lack of care in the healthcare system, but female doctors find their symptoms aren’t being taken seriously as well. And Dr. Powell knows this from personal experience. "A while back, I lost 10 pounds over a couple months, so I went to my doctor and told him I thought it was a sign I was having a recurrence of an old illness. He gave me a few reasons he disagreed and added, 'Plus, you’ve been on a diet.'" Since Dr. Powell never said this to her doctor herself, this immediately struck her as odd. Moreover, she began to question whether the physician would have said the same to a male patient. Luckily, she turned to another doctor who ran a set of tests, confirmed her suspicions, and began treating her immediately.

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    "It can be hard to speak up if you feel you’re not being treated fairly," Dr. Powell said. "I’m a professor at a medical school and I struggled with it."

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    Lena Flising
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Normal doesn't mean healthy. It's pretty normal to die; we all do it at one point, but we still try to avoid it as long as possible. Most women have some pain during periods, but most of them can be helped with an ibuprofen pill or two. When many pills doesn't do anything, that's when you seek out a doctor. I have friends who faint and/or vomit from the pain. Even though that is "normal" for them (as it happens once a month), it isn't normal period pain.

    Zombie Gurl
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was apparently having kidney stones at the time, I was in severe pain. The nurses said it was nothing wrong but yet every movement and food inquiry would cause me so much distraught. They didn't believe me, said I should grow up. My mother knew I was in pain, cause I was losing weight much faster than I intended to. Cause every food would flip my innards. I'd be vomiting them out because my body was trying to fix the problem not adjusting to any s**t.

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    A.
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People don't realize that Planned Parenthood is about SO much more than abortions. My parents went there back in the 50s for fertility issues, & when I couldn't afford medical care, they put me on a payment schedule.

    Amanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you can’t tell them otherwise. Tried that argument so many times.

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    Xenia Harley
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    PP saved my son's (ex) GF. She was in pain and couldn't get an appointment anywhere. Turned out she was suffering from an ectopic pregnancy. She had emergency surgery and even lost the ovary. Without legalized abortion, she would be dead! Mind you, she very much wanted a baby.

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    Rebecca Lederer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On the other hand...if you're vegan or vegetarian they assume you must be vitamin deficient and test you constantly. Levels are always normal, including B's D's and Iron, and they never address my actual problem.

    AnyOtherName
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a protein deficiency once, it's how my ED was picked up - after about ten years of dodgy blood tests that dr's just dismissed

    Robin Roper
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See an Integrative Functional Medical professional. Of course, insurance doesn't cover much of the testing or teratment.

    Monica Sargent
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate to be smarter than someone who spent 8 years in school but....it's important to remember that SOMEONE had to graduate at the BOTTOM of the class.

    Samantha Melnychuk
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can totally be protein deficient! It's very rare in today's society that eats like 10x more protein than we did 50-60 years ago, but with veganism on the rise and not everyone knowing how to balance vegetables and legumes etc to make a complete protein.... It's possible. In women it's even more possible just because of how we metabolize protein.

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    Sadly, gender bias is evident in the medical system. A recent study by National Pain Report and non-profit foundation For Grace found that women report significant discrimination against them. They conducted a survey of 2,400 women with chronic pain that revealed over 90 percent of them feel the gender bias is real, and many of the respondents said they sense discrimination in the way their pain is treated by doctors.

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    Delta Dawn
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh lord move out of Texas, that’s the best advice anyone can give you right now!

    Bryn
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its not just Texas. Its a lot of the country.

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    Amanda Rose
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hashimoto's makes it f'ing impossible to lose weight! I'm on that very long and bumpy road right now. So frustrating.

    James G. Currie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Find that list of MDs that are actually intelligent and willing to work with a woman for sterylization, and make an appointment. The *only* reason I can understand a hesitation to sterylize a woman is because it is much harder to reverse than a vasectomy. But I don't care if she's 18...an adult demands a legal proceedure...GIVE IT TO THEM! Have these idiot doctors never heard of adoption?

    Well-Dressed Wolf
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hell, I’m adopted! If a woman decides later that she absolutely MUST have children, she can adopt! Or, if she absolutely HAS to have children that are BIOLOGICALLY HERS (which tbh I’ve never understood why that’s so important to some people, maybe because I’m adopted so it never seemed like it was that important) she can have her ova frozen before her ovaries are removed.

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    Romy Schneider
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hashimotos is a disease most doctors don't take serious. It's a real shame.

    Lena Flising
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's YOUR uterus, YOU ought to be in charge of whether it stays or goes (unless removing it would be dangerous to your health). If even your husband agrees, and they still refuse, it's just madness.

    Big Chungus
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have hashimotos too and it is nearly impossible to lose weight

    Jodi BottleOf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just… see my reply to a post above… 😤

    MalP
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hashimoto's disease runs in my husbands family & has affected our daughters. (bot who ended up with thyroid surgery) I swear They leave it out of med school on purpose.

    Jaybird3939
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had thyroid disease for many years. It's very hard for me to lose weight. I went to OB/GYN because of lower abdominal pain. That got about 2 minutes of attention. The next 20 minutes was a lecture about how I need to lose weight, it's so easy, just eat right and exercise. Also, it was a male Dr.

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    Pumpkin Spice
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    220 pounds of muscle? Sheesh, that doctor should be SCARED.

    Whitefox
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In high school I was 215lbs.. I could bench press that easily and leg press almost 600lbs. I spent a lot of time outdoors doing stuff, climbing trees, climbing rocks, hiking, mountain biking...just active. Dr. kept telling me to loose wt. I was made to feel horrible because I wasn't a thin mint. I was stocky and solid.

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    James G. Currie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    File a formal complaint with the Hospital and Medical Board. A Beer Belly is not always a sign of obesity...lazy S****...stop looking for the zebra, and LISTEN to the patient!

    Mia Barrera
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't wait to cuss out the next doctor. That current doctor would have been cussed out and fired. You don't have to keep these doctors that mistreat you as a living, human being. Fire their asses and demand a competent one that at least teeters on 75% capabilty of normal, human behavior. I don't need you to be my friend, but I do need you to be my physician and medically treat me to the best of your medical expertise. Period.

    RJ
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hear you. I see you. I believe you. And I'm right there with you on that last sentence. Just don't be surprised when you hear "CODE WHITE" followed by the area you're in.

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    Aleksandra
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't ever belive any doctor who says that your pain is prolly "just menstrual pain". And even if it was menstrual pain, if it's SO BAD it's NOT NORMAL and means something is wrong, may be endometriosis, may be something else. There is no "just" with menstrual pain nor any pain.

    Jodi BottleOf
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Just” (as I’ve mentioned in at least one previous post) can be such a toxic word! Think about it, and how people tend to use it: JUST get over it, JUST lose weight, JUST leave your abusive partner… JUST minimizes the individual’s problem! Like, if I could JUST, I would JUST! “JUST” forget about it…

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    Lisa Monzon
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I also had a broken rib treated by a chiropractor, because I was told "we can't really do anything" by a doctor at the ER. I had whooping cough, at age 27, and I also tore my diaphragm. The ER doctors really didn't give a rat's hiney, and I was told to stop making such a big deal about the pain.

    Tessb90
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah yes menstrual pain in my rib cage, that doesn't require any further investigation...

    Agent 8433599
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dislocated ribs? Obviously it's menstrual problems!/s.

    Fish Fingers
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, a made-up diagnosis by a made-up ghost religion, of a thing that isn't a thing? Mercan, by any chance?

    Lena Flising
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women usually knows how a menstrual pain feels, as they have been having them every month since they were around 11-14 years old. And, menstrual pains don't usually start suddenly when you lift something heavy, they often come creeping up on you, and get worse gradually.

    Joy Hunter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why I only go to female gynecologists.

    AK to LV
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope you've had good luck with yours. I've had the same amount of bad luck with female as a I have with males.

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    Moreover, 65 percent of women revealed their pain is taken less seriously because they are female, and 84 percent said they are treated differently by doctors because of their sex. "I think this survey is extraordinarily important because I think the experiences of women in pain need to come out in the open and really need to be publicized," psychologist Steve Passik, Ph.D., said.

    "At times like now, when there’s a stigma to being a chronic pain patient and when there’s a stigma for taking controlled substances for pain, the last thing anyone needs is an additional unseen bias to make it worse. And the idea that women have a struggle that’s differentially worse is something that needs to come to light."

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    Amanda Rose
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes! I've lost 60-ish pounds in the last three years and suddenly it's all "was that lump there before? No? We need to biopsy this right now!" Turned out to be lipoma (non cancerous fat tumor).

    Well-Dressed Wolf
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate this! We’re not stupid. We KNOW that being overweight isn't “healthy” for various reasons, especially if we have underlying conditions, but ffs, doc, TREAT THE PROBLEM FIRST! I’m adopted, my entire adoptive family is morbidly obese (and quite a few have died from complications, diabetes, and co-morbidities thereof) so I have seen firsthand how horribly doctors treat overweight people. I’ve been the war-advocate for many of my family members, because doctors won’t listen to them.. but they’ll magically listen to the 140-lb white woman giving them the stinkeye as they examine my Hispanic adoptive mother, sister, aunt etc? It’s B.S.

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    Pheebs
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugh. Reflux for years, and only one doc who tried to help. Another doc was about 50% helpful, but ultimately kept insisting it was a weight issue even though I was over 40lb lighter when the issue started. Since then, I’ve found I have food sensitivities and have at least to manage my issue without medication all the time. Now if I could just stop getting injured I might actually manage the weight loss.

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    James G. Currie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poster need to file complaint with the Medical Board, and possibly sue.

    Local foodie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How do they know how much pain the child is in?

    Tessb90
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So your child wasn't actively screaming in pain, so that means that there is no pain?

    Tessb90
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At this point it seems like everyone who needs medical help should practice how to deafen people by screeching, before going to ask for help....

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    tragicaltales
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve always hated going to the doctor. I have an anxiety attack every single time I go

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    UpQuarkDownQuark
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does that idiot really think that everyone who isn’t Olympic runner skinny wheezes on their way to the car?

    Well-Dressed Wolf
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Heck, I’m still in the “proper weight” range for my height (*cough* barely… 160lbs and 5’5”), and I wheeze just walking to the fridge for some water in the morning :O …to be fair though, I’m lazy af sooo XD

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    Tuna Fish
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG You can DIE from pneumonia!

    One Jame
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How would a doctor know what you find exerting more than you would yourself?

    Demongrrrrl
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a nurse practitioner tell me that my pneumonia was just an asthma attack.

    Cynthia Souza
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was eight years old, my mom took me to the clinic at the Air Base we were living on in Germany. When the doctor asked my mom what the thermometer showed when she took my temperature, she said she didn't have a thermometer, she could tell by touching my face I had a fever. He said I was just faking to get out of school. My mom pitched a fit and demanded another doctor. I ended up in the hospital for two weeks with pneumonia. Since the base we lived on was too small to have a real hospital, I had to go to another larger base. It was too far for anyone to visit (my mom had three other kids to take care of), so I was alone the whole time. Traumatic experience.

    Lena Flising
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Horrible doctor! You probably were of similar size before Covid, and didn't have this problem then. Now you have it, even though you didn't change your weight significantly (I assume). Some doctors seem to think we woke up as humans in this body this morning, and things feel strange, so we go to the doctor. We have been living in this body for years and years. We KNOW how it usually feels. Moron! (The doctor, that is, not the woman.)

    Interestingly, there’s one concerning reason why physicians are likely to misdiagnose or gaslight women’s health issues. Women’s symptoms are often seen as "hysterical" in the medical world, whether consciously or not. In an interview for Northwell Health, Dr. Stephanie Trentacoste McNally explained it’s no accident that the word "hysteria" originates from the Greek word for "uterus."

    The specialist pointed out that there’s still a pervasive belief that anytime a female complains about her health, it’s either related to her hormones or all in her head. "Female hysteria was once a common medical diagnosis for women, applied whenever women displayed 'inappropriate' emotions such as anxiety, anger and even sexual desire. For centuries, it was believed that the uterus itself was the cause of a woman’s 'hysterical' symptoms."

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    "Unfortunately, these sorts of beliefs still carry on today. How often does a woman get angry, only to be asked if she’s about to get her period? How often does a perimenopausal woman go to her doctor’s office to complain about weight gain, only to be told that it’s related to hormones? Our hormones aren’t making us anxious or upset—these condescending attitudes are."

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    V33333P
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It took me til the age of 25 when I finally had a FEMALE GP to realize that not everyone fainted, vomited, couldn't move for three days every month during their period. Endo. Funny that. I got my period at 12.

    CanadianaKa
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Four doctors in two countries missed it (even though my MOM had had it). I got "it's part of being female," or "you need more fiber in your diet" and the such. Finally an NP at Kaiser Permanente said "it sounds like Endo" and within weeks I'd had everything arranged, met with a surgeon and had the laparoscopy (and I've seen the photos, I was a MESS). This took 16 YEARS. The irony? When I went to the Kaiser Pharma with "the Endometriosis Sourcebook" under my arm, the pharmacy tech looked at me and said "How long have you been misdiagnosed, hon?" Not "have you." The automatic "how long" assumption. WHen I said 16 years and asked her journey, the reply was "four years. But I work for a health care company."

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    Toothless Feline
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    3kg??? I've had larger bowel movements! Why on earth would a valid doctor hold up treatment over 3 kilos?

    Emily Busch
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My current OBGYN didn't believe I had endo because the only symptom I had was extreme period pain (the kind that only a strong opioid would dull) it took me getting a cyst removed (it grew from a walnut to baseball size in 3 months) for her to admit that I did have it and that they removed the areas during the cyst removal surgery. She did actually apologize to me for not believing me during my follow up appointment.

    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So your "only" symptom was the main endo symptom? What a moron of gynecologist

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    Disgruntled Pelican
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Took me 8 years and 10 doctors to be diagnosed even though I have all of the stereotypical symptoms and a family history of it. One doctor at Mayo told me "it can't be that bad" even though I had been bleeding for 10 months and another told me I'd have to BEG for a laparoscopy because he didn't believe me. Guess who ended up with Endo and a big cyst behind their uterus?

    Well-Dressed Wolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please tell me your secret of how you finally got diagnosed/what tests you had done (besides the laparoscopy?). I’m 40 and I’ve had pretty much all the same symptoms since I was 15 (started menstruating at 11, yay) and all that various OBGYNs have done is put me on different hormonal birth control forms. I have my annual coming up on the 26th and I’m terrified. The whole office treats me like a freak of nature because I’ve never had children and don’t want to have children.

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    Pheebs
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hubs spent years on and off anxiety meds, weight gain, and generally feeling like he was going crazy. Turns outs it was his thyroid. Took years to diagnose, and even more to get him regulated when they kept changing his meds (switching the generics).

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    Marina Rocha
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course it's the US. Where else would doctors miss a mango sized cyst just because they don't feel like calling insurance and explaining why she needed a MRI. Lazy a*s****

    Smiles x
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sweden. I had a period for three months straight, nonstop. I was given vitamin pills and told to look at my weight. A ton of fighting finally got some implant thing inside me which HURTS. Now I only bleed for three weeks at a time with a week break. I am tired all the time, stressed, and always in pain. But one day I might want KIDS! I can't get everything removed, I am so young!

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    Lena Flising
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are dismissed due to weight in Europe as well, and women are suspected of complaining of imaginary pain here too. Discrimination of women is world-wide.

    Tessb90
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Australia has Medicare for all, and a health care card on top if you are on benefits, or low income. It happens here too. Even though a lot of doctors bulk bill for a consultation so that it doesn't cost you a cent.

    But this does beg the question: why, in this day and age, do so many women continue to face gaslighting in the healthcare system? Of course, we see an undeniable change in the way women are being cared for today, but there’s still plenty of room for improvement. Dr. Bella R. Grossman noted in the interview that psychological and social influences play an important part in how women are treated.

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    "For example, men have a tendency to be more vocal and more persistent with their concerns. Women may have a harder time pushing back and advocating for themselves. They feel like they need to be good patients, which means accepting what their doctors tell them. But by doing so, they’re stripping themselves of a voice," she said.

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    Snorma Ray
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Going through this right now but I was put on vitamin D for a deficiency already and my symptoms still haven't improved. I keep getting told it's my anxiety when I know it's not. I'm having increased anxiety because no one seems to be able to tell me what's wrong with me.

    Lisa Monzon
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was having some intense symptoms - I have bipolar disorder - but my depression kept getting worse and worse, I was exhausted constantly, my pulse was really fast, and I just felt like death. A younger, female psychiatrist had my D levels checked, and they were in the toilet. After six-months of D3 therapy, I started feeling so much better. I still have bipolar, but my pulse is normal and I don't spend every moment feeling like a bus hit me. So tired of being treated like a hypochondriac because I have two X-chromosomes.

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    Nizumi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had years of palpitations that happened any time I tried to do any cardio - ride a bike? Palpitations and pain. Walk up stairs briskly? Palpitations and pain. Walk up stairs slowly? Same thing. Walk briskly? Ditto. Family history of heart disease so naturally I was worried. Blood tests, stress tests, monitors - nothing showed anything wrong. Eventually, seeing an osteopath for something else, they said, "Your neck muscles are really weak. Have you had any problems like... " And proceeded to list my symptoms. Holy cr*p! Gave me some exercises to help strengthen and stabilize the muscles that connect at the clavicle and two months later I'm almost symptom-free. The body is a weird thing.

    piruoztek
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can I find it somehow, please? I have problems with heartbeat, but they didn't find anything, but I have also problems with neck.

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    CanadianaKa
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in a crappy house with a shitty landlord. Why do I stay? Because my doctor is at a clinic that only sees this neighbourhood and she's the kind of doc who says "OK. You know your body, you've lived in it for 50 years. If you say it's X, I'll order the accompanying tests." And I've been right *every time*. Took about two or three episodes of "Well.... that's not really the normal symptoms for X but since you're so sure, I'll order the tests." THank the goddess, she has NEVER dismissed me. Disagreed, yes, but always humoured me. And now she just listens. :)

    Tessb90
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I lose consciousness because of instability in my neck that restricts blood flow to my brain. Surprisingly it's made worse when I'm anxious, or on my way to having a panic attack, because my muscles tense up. If I have a panic attack I just pass out now.

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so lucky I have an amazing obgyn. I felt a weird breast lump one night and within two days had an appointment and was sent immediately to an ultrasound and mammogram appointment. I am happy it was just a cyst, but even more thankful she took it seriously.

    Boris’ Mom
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell them you want both diagnosis IN WRITING specifying that it isn't cancer. With the doctor's signature on the hospital they are representing's letterhead.

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    PandyLynn
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel this one. Similar thing happened to me at 19. Was told to lose weight and my feet wouldn't hurt. Too bad I have PsA and my angel if a GP is watching for Lupus.

    and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Twelve years old. I was in agonizing, debilitating pain. CONSTANTLY. I woke up crying, went to bed crying, couldn’t move without help. Took us a month and a half to figure out the issue was. Several times I got “it’s probably just anxiety” or “how often do you exercise?” It was juvenile idiopathic arthritis. F**k the US medical system.

    Susan Betz
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was 15 (1977), I went to the mall with friends and by the time I got home I couldn't walk. My left ankle was swollen to the size of a softball the next day, and the pain was agony. The doctor said I must have twisted my ankle. I insisted I had not, but he insisted I must have. It was another week before I was hospitalized with juvenile arthritis.

    Cynthia Souza
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm older than you, but still was told by my doctor my hip pain couldn't be bone, it had to be muscle, because I was too young for osteoarthritis. Took three years and three different doctors to get an X-Ray. The top of my femur where it fit into the hip was basically powder. Had surgery four months later, fixed everything.

    Samantha Melnychuk
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel for you, I went through similar. I was constantly told my inflammatory markers were high because I was fat (if they were 10 or 20, sure, but in the 100s?). I was always told that any joint pain was due to being fat, including my hands. I finally got referred to a rheumatologist when I had a really bad flare up and all my big joints got psoriasis and swelling to the point where I almost couldn't walk.

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    If you can relate to any of these stories shared in this list, certain actions can help make sure physicians actually listen and heed your voiced concerns. The Society to Improve Diagnosis in Medicine (SIDM) suggested it’s important to find a professional you can trust. Moreover, they advised asking doctors who ignore your symptoms certain questions, such as "What might this be?" and "What do I do if these symptoms get worse?" This should make them stop and take time to consider your other options.

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly it happens in every country

    The leech
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Currently going through this.

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    Evil Little Thing
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In this case I believe she is referring to fibromyalgia.

    Id row
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're a nurse and stayed with this doctor for 10 years even though you knew he was wrong?

    Well-Dressed Wolf
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depending on where you live, and your insurance, it’s sometimes VERY difficult to switch doctors, especially GPs. A lot of times they’ll straight-up say “doctor is not accepting new patients at this time” when you call a new doc/office. Or perhaps OP has anxiety/social communication problems that made it difficult for them to switch to a new doctor. So let’s try to be a little kinder to OP and not imply that they’re an idiot for staying with the same doctor for 10 years.

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    Willowbilly
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish you well. Fibromyalgia sucks, and hurts. Hint: don't wear tight stretchy clothes. They pull at your skin and may set things off.

    James G. Currie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hopefully the poster walked into the office of the idiot, and slapped the proof on his desk and said, "Still think I have no clue what I was talking about?" She should also see about filing complaints and possibly suing for pain & suffering.

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    Agent 8433599
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can imagine the doctor just being like "Huh, who knew this was there?"

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    Well-Dressed Wolf
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Humans are technically animals, so a vet is totally qualified to self-diagnose if the human doctors are being useless! XD

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    And as people say, knowledge is power. It’s helpful to go to the doctor’s ready to present your issues clearly and factually and also be prepared with research on what types of tests and screenings should be performed for patients your age. But, most importantly, speak up. SIDM explained that expressing the depth of your concerns may help you receive your diagnosis faster. "Be willing to fight for yourself and your body but don’t be willing to put on the boxing gloves when you first walk in," they wrote.

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    PixxelDust
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Got told exactly that twice as a kid when in hospital for agonising stomach pain. Guess who just had 2 grape-sized ovarian cysts removed?

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    The one with the high ground
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh no, that's terrible!! The more I read here, the more I really want to become a doctor (I'm still a student) that actually can solve those problems. That listens to clients and takes them serious. There should be more!

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    JJ(they/them)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i have no degree, but Im pretty sure the severeness of a burn has noting to do with weight? please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Well-Dressed Wolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being overweight/obese can affect injury/would healing time - my aunt is obese and when she had hernia surgery, she literally had an unhealed open wound for 2+ years because the fat layer doesn’t heal the same way muscle and dermal layers do. But a burn “hurting” more or less because of weight? B.S.

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    Emerson McEwan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my wife is around 220 lbs, she has all the symptoms of a really bad fibroid, and really bad blood pressure. Doctors wont do anything. she literally had preeclampsia with our son and they didn't bother treating her for it. Im at a loss of what to do

    WhAt??
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Preeclampsia is a very serious thing. I would talk to a lawyer because that could of possibly killed your wife and son. The doctor should be disgusted with themselves.

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    Pheebs
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get sick of docs taking my blood pressure and then taking it again because they “expected it to be higher with how big [I am]”. Just because I’m. It skinny doesn’t mean I don’t take care of myself. Will I get winded trying to go for a run? Yes. Can I turn myself in to a pretzel while doing low impact to keep from injuring myself? Also yes.

    Pizzagirl 91
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've got it the other way around: I've been on blood pressure medication since my pregnancy 18 months ago, and whenever I measure my BP at home, everything is fine, when they measure at the doctor's it's too high - I've had 24h-EKGs 4 times in the last three years and BP was always normal to slightly raised, but since it's always much too high when they measure it, and they expect high BP at my weight, I'm still treated for it...

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    Jihana
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Recreational ablation? What the f does that even mean?

    Gypsy Lee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He should lose his license. Disgusting! WhyTF do you work with women when you can’t see or hear them? 🐽

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    Melissa Boufford
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was also diagnosed with fibromyalgia. It means muscle pain and was The tre chic Diagnosis a while back. What they tell you to shut you up. Turned out to be MS

    Sheila Weila
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My gastroenterologist caused me to get fibromyalgia (and macular degeneration) by giving me meds to reduce stomach acid when really i had to little stomach acid. I was starving even though i was eating. I just wasn't able to digest it.

    Rens
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had fibromyalgia for a long time, and I know that my weight makes absolutely no difference. I was emaciated skin and bone and still have the same symptoms as I do now when I'm overweight and struggling.

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    Elizabeth Zajicek
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was told by an orthopedic surgeon that my neck disc bulge was not causing my arm pain. When I questioned this statement, because it is contrary to every other doctor i have seen, he attacked me verbally. He said he could not operate on someone as fat as i am. He could refer me to get a gastric bypass. It was so out of no where. I was just there to get a consult to see if any of my issues were operational. I gave a poor review for him and he called me trying to apologize. He was trying to say that i misunderstood him. I told him i did not trust him or his judgement and believed he attacked me verbally when i questioned his medical opinion. I did not back down and he was almost whining by the end trying to get me to take my review down. I also let the referring dr office know how he treated me and to please not send people there.

    Tessb90
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you have any issue with your neck it will almost always be the cause of your arm pain. Bad days with my neck start with pain and numbness in my ring finger and pinky.

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    AspieGirl88
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WTF?! That’s SO rude!! 😡😤

    Marina Rocha
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have mixed feelings about this. Obesity is a symptom of lots of diseases and should be addressed by doctors. It's not a "beauty" thing. And normal glucose doesn't mean she is healthy. Altered glucose is the last straw. Happens whe it's too late. They should have been testing her insulin and I guarantee it's over the roof. Managing what is causing her symptom (obesity) is most certainly on the doctor's scope

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    Benjamin Jake
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This could go multiple ways. My doctor was pleasantly surprised that my glucose test didn’t indicate diabetes. She still wanted me to try to lose weight to keep it that way because she cared about my health. But some doctors can be almost disappointed surprised. I have had doctors other than my primary doctor react this way. They expected me to be diabetic based on weight alone. That felt like fat shaming.

    Jaybird3939
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah. I sure didn't know I was fat until a Dr. told me.

    Catherine Spencer-Mills
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, started having glucose tests in my 30s. Not diabetic. Surprised looks all around except me. But you are so overweight! I tried to lose weight, but wasn't successful. I finally tested diabetic at age 60. Relieved looks and more pressure to lose weight. F them all

    Whitefox
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, I was with Kaiser.. I said the same list of symptoms every time I went in. They were fixated on my thyroid and kept saying I wasn't taking my meds and to loose wt etc... I could have been sitting in my parked car in a parking lot and a drunk driver could jump the curb, T-Bone me and break my leg. Kaiser would have found a way to blame it on my thyroid. I finally got a different INS. and went to a new Dr. he listened to me, asked if they ever checked me for Diabetes. Nope, guess what? All those things I complained about at every visit? Text book type 2 diabetes symptoms. 7 years of ignoring it made me insulin resistant. I've had to take 140u of long acting insulin and 160u short acting insulin daily for years. Oh, and the thyroid? they gave me the wrong med. 4 weeks on a new one and my numbers are great. SMDH

    Pheebs
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Saaaaaaaame. Admittedly I don’t mind the regular diabetes checks as it runs in my fam, but so sick of people being surprised I have great blood work while technically being 50-60lbs overweight. (Because yeah, I should be the same weight as someone half my age with different body type).

    piruoztek
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my country they always do glucose tests for everyone during check. (I don't mean specialists.)

    Tyranamar Seuss
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Glucose is standard part of the yearly work up. That's not just for you or because you were overweight. Also included are usually liver, kidneys, thyroid, and blood count. Not everything is a personal statement about your weight.

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    Samantha Smith
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kidney stones should be easy to diagnose but one day a few years ago I was at work and had pain on my right side. Went to clinic and they told me I had appendicitis and had to go to the ER. I went to the ER and they tested me for everything under the sun. First came back that it wasn't appendix so had to be a burst ovarian cyst. Very painful ultrasound later and "you have a ton of cysts but they're all in tact". 8 hours later ... "You have a kidney stone".

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    AspieGirl88
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same. I spent many years of my youth going to A&E with severe abdominal pain, sometimes screaming/bawling my eyes out … only to be told it was “just constipation” EVERY time, then sent home with paracetamol & laxatives they’d prescribe for infants/younger children (I was over 14). They never even suggested a colonoscopy, despite labelling me with constipation & noting that I was repeatedly coming to their hospital screaming in agony. Well, they regretted their continued negligence after the night of December 21st 2013. Same as before, except I wasn’t even crying out in pain (it worried my mum, as I was too “out of it”). I felt a blockage & when they checked my urine, it was black. They still sent me home with the same “it’s just constipation”, this time giving my mum a suppository. I was on life-support in a better hospital 24 hours later, fighting sepsis & then a ruptured bowel that could’ve been saved if they’d treated me sooner (& I wasn’t expected to survive at all, was in a coma for a whole 5 weeks & didn’t get home until April 2014, though it certainly wouldn’t be the last hospital treatment since then). The court case is still ongoing, but they now realise how badly they’ve screwed themselves, as I’m still suffering even now & I lost my lower right leg in September 2019 to a secondary infection from “Post-Sepsis Syndrome”. 🤷‍♀️😕

    ispeak catanese
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry you were victimized by shitty medical neglect. You've been through absolute hell. 😨

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister got discriminated against because she was an alcoholic. She was told that if she stopped drinking all her health problems would go away. She went to the dermatologist about a spot on her back that was burning (it looked like a typical mole) & was dismissed. 6 months later she passed away from melanoma.

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    Tuna Fish
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because they don't listen/believe/CARE! If it doesn't affect their bottom line it doesn't matter. Best of wishes for you.

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    8 pounds!!! That's more than my son weighed at birth.

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Greed can kill more than your soul it seems.

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    CanadianaKa
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh! I know that one! Turned out that I drove 120km round-trip WITH A BROKEN HEEL and damaged achilles tendon for two months because the doc said "Enh. It's just a bruise." Finally the third time, when worker's comp was about to cut me off, they took the Xray *from a different angle" and the break was clear as day. 10 months of p/t did almost nothing, and when they wrote me off they offered me $500 as a reparation. Thankfully the WC judge disagreed, though what am I supposed to do with 2k to deal with life-long pain?

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely. At this point if the patient doesnt do the research and diagnose herself she wont get a treatment. The only way is to find what you might have, find which specialist might doagnose that illness, keep changing specialists until one listens and then maybe get a diagnosis and a treatment.

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    RJ
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unpopular comment here: So when they were talking about body mass, they were mainly concerned with visceral fat. That's the fat that is attached directly to your organs. Heart, liver, lungs, kidneys, etc. Everyone has this. However, when you're obese (high Body Mass Index - BMI), the amount of fat on your organs prevents proper function. Hearts, liver, lungs, kidneys all have to work harder and are less effective and begin to fail. It vastly increases the dangers of surgery. Downvote me if you must, but I'm basing this on first-hand knowledge.

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