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What does it mean to be a "real" man? Well, masculinity is one of those topics everyone has an opinion on, as gender norms remain a delicate subject that tends to spark heated debates online. And even though public attitudes are becoming more accepting in many ways, stereotypical patterns of masculine behavior are still deeply rooted in our society — according to the age-old cliché of the masculine guy, men are expected to be strong, brave, and dominant.

But in reality, when people are telling everyone that a macho man doesn't cry, takes risks, makes money, fears nothing, and — heaven forbid! — never shows any signs of emotional vulnerability, it can spark some pretty warped ideas about manhood.

Thanks to one illuminating corner of Twitter called 'Hot Masculinity Takes,' we get to see a galore of absurd cases when this happens online. "Welcome to the Alpha Zone," says the account’s description, and you already know it’s gonna be a wild ride. So continue scrolling to check out the absolutely ridiculous opinions about men on the Internet, and don’t miss the chat we had about masculinity with licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Jesse Matthews right below.

Psst! After you’re done with this list, more madness awaits in Part 1 of this feature right here.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanna punch the idiot who wrote this put down. And I’m an oh-so-estrogenic woman. My crushing lack of testosterone must be making me so irrational to say something like this. Isn’t it?🙄😤😡 Who is this misogynistic weirdo, to think he can be rude to the ladies and gentlemen like that? Bet he’s an insecure neckbeard.

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It’s hard to avoid encountering the term toxic masculinity these days. But as the person behind the account, who preferred to stay anonymous, told my colleague Rokas in a previous interview, this social media project is not purely about that. The philosophy of the page is to post the takes and let people make their own conclusions. "I do draw a lot from the manosphere but a lot of the takes are from women speaking about men, and I include left-wing hot takes too," the creator added.

A brief scroll through the list proves that harmful stereotypes about what it means to be a man are abundant in today’s society. But what exactly urges people to share their absurd statements without any second thought? And how can these ideas affect men seeking out their masculine identity?

To gain more insight on the topic from an expert, we reached out to Dr. Jesse Matthews, Psy.D., a licensed clinical psychologist based in Chester Springs, PA. According to him, ideas about masculinity have become quite polarized in our society.

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"As masculinity has moved away from the 'manly man' or 'tough guy' definitions, many people have not only clung to these stereotypes, but they have made them more extreme," Dr. Matthews told Bored Panda. This usually stems from people rejecting the changing views, and "social media in particular creates echo chambers for this, with various influencers carrying the flags for those who identify with their views."

While we all bear different perspectives on the world around us, masculinity especially can be a very deep rabbit hole with a variety of different viewpoints. But Dr. Matthews raised an important question: why do these ideas matter so much to people?

"Obviously, it’s part of life for any guy or anyone who identifies with masculinity, but the obsession with being a 'real man' is more based in insecurity. The person essentially needs to ensure that they present a masculine enough identity to avoid judgment or being called out as not masculine by other guys," the psychologist explained.

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Men who are insecure about their manliness exhibit behavior that is often exaggerated and even caricature-like. But Dr. Matthews says there’s also irony at play here. "Many of these individuals would tell you that being a real man means just doing your thing and not caring about what anyone thinks about it. However, one can’t simultaneously obsess over portraying an ultramasculine image, yet claim to be unconcerned about judgment. It just doesn’t compute."

Hypermasculinity — or toxic masculinity as it’s usually called — is also based on the false belief that masculinity needs to be saved, Dr. Matthews argued. "In the same way that some people seem to be afraid that racism or homophobia might one day die out. So they embrace stereotypes, or how they think things 'should' be or were in 'the good old days.'"

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, so a man drinking a fruity drink sounds like a great way to filter out super shallow people. Drink up men, the fruity drinks are the best.

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But putting men (half of the world’s population!) in a box can seriously harm their well-being. "It’s limiting at best, and at worst it leads people to play into these stereotypes." For example, hypermasculinity often makes people act in ways "that are sexist or homophobic, or at least not challenging others on this kind of behavior."

"It also has the power to create toxic environments, uncomfortable for women or men viewed as not masculine, and of course to lead to situations involving sexual assault," Dr. Matthews continued. "As well, if these men carry on these thoughts and behaviors through adulthood, they may pass them down to their children or other young people they come into contact with, like kids they are teaching, coaching, and so on."

According to the American Psychological Association (APA), instilling elements of traditional masculinity into men and boys can be psychologically harmful, as it has been shown to limit their development, constrain their behavior, and result in gender role conflict. What’s more, it can negatively influence their mental and physical health.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This screams red flag all over. Anyone under that height is usually underage (with the exception of naturally petite women).

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And men wonder why we women have a tendency to come off as cold, closed-off, and wary with men we dont know. Obviously, even the men we DO think we know can be a danger to us.

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For men who try to seek out their identity and find a healthy relationship with their inner guy, these societal pressures and expectations can be especially burdensome. "It can be hard for people to stand out or to be seen as going against those around them. For example, a male raised in a family or in a community with traditional masculine stereotypes may find it hard to explore or adopt a less stereotyped identity," Dr. Matthews said, adding the person is likely to be criticized, punished, or excluded for it.

Unfortunately, most people who are raised in stereotyped environments tend to internalize those behavior patterns. Psychologist Matthews explained this happens because they don’t know anything else and it feels right to them, or they feel pressure to fit in.

"This can mean demonstrating extreme or toxic masculinity, as not only could one fit in that way, but he could be praised or more highly valued in the group for it." And, alarmingly, "in places like prisons where this applies, it could actually help you to survive."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only the most insecure men use words like alpha and beta males. Do they not realize how it makes them sound?

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Extreme views like the painfully ridiculous ones featured on 'Hot Masculinity Takes' are rarely a positive thing. But as the modern world now teaches us, the subject matter is much less black-and-white.

"Masculinity is not simply the opposite of femininity, just as it is not synonymous with heterosexuality," Dr. Matthews noted. "Many people today see being masculine as being calm and controlled vs angry and reactive, being a good problem solver rather than one who relies on brute force to solve everything, or standing up for other people or what’s right vs trying to control or overpower others."

What people see as healthy masculinity may differ, but generally, we can all foster it by not judging other people. "This means not being worried about what other men are doing and giving people the space to be themselves," Dr. Matthews added. "We can all do what we want to do and believe what we want to believe. Masculinity isn’t going anywhere, so people don’t need to try to be the protectors of it or to act in stereotyped ways to let people know they exist."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mmm, yes, let's never stop living with perpetual brutality, chaos, and death.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

High blood pressure, obesity, high blood sugar, malnutrition, but I can't think of any real reasons.

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Many men in Dr. Matthews’s practice have never gone to therapy before, and some wouldn't even be expected to be found in a psychologist’s office at first glance. But they are sure glad they did. "This idea of what it really means to be a man and the positive and negative ways in which they have lived this is a frequent topic of conversation."

"I would encourage anyone concerned with issues of identity, including ideas about masculinity, to start reflecting on it in some kind of organized way. Don’t just watch videos by your favorite IG or Tik Tok influencers, but start journaling, reading books, or going and seeing a therapist. It really can change your life," Dr. Matthews concluded.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Picturing this guy putting together flat-pack furniture without instructions ('cause those are for girls) and when his shelf turns into a table, he just throws it through the wall. Because bro

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BREAKING NEWS: WORK COLLEAGUES OFTEN ENGAGE AS FRIENDS WITH EACH OTHER. MORE ON THIS AT 11.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think snapping and breaking the legs of a monstrous sea spider with your bear hands then eating it’s flesh sounds pretty tough

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Especially when you had to kill a bear to take its hands! You aren't using your bare hands, but a literal bear's hands! Even more props to you if you have a pet bear that you trained to crack crab legs for you!!!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She must be real fun to take out to dinner: "Oh, no, you CAN'T order that, it'll make you look 'gay', and i won't like you, here, i'll order the steak tartare for you instead."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would think all the cracking of the shells to get to the meat would appeal to this crowd.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

they're literally eating dead snappy sea spiders legs. How could that be gay?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I;ve never heard that definition of gay before.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A grown man craving crab legs is a grown man I would absolutely have dinner with. But not if he drinks water. If a grown man has ever had a drink of water, that's just so yesterday's gay. 😏

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And women who crave a big, thick steak are lesbians. Thanks for the lesson.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Any man that has ordered crab legs and eats them on a regular basis...ask me out!! I'll help you eat them!! I love them!!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I suppose a grown man craving a lobster tale (hahaha) is straight?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh sure, eating food, that despite being deceased cooked and even dismembered you still have to attack it, sometimes with a hammer and pliers to get at the taste morsels inside it's hard and unfriendly shell, for which many people endure the harsh risks life and limb to get those crabs from the depths of the ocean is what you think is "gay". Yet you revel in the "manliness" of eating a farm animal that's been cared for it's while life while being protected and blithely walks into the slaughter house to be surprised with a sudden and painless death and is then cut up into more convenient chunks for cooking and eating.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A grown woman craving turkey breast is gay, I do not care.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how is a man wanting to eat giant sea spiders not freaking manly?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if you don't get it, it's because the crabs don't want to be eaten, so they try to discourage people from eating their legs

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if he just grabs the crab out of the water and bites its leg off? That seems very caveman like.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So now men are considered gay if they *checks notes* eat crab legs. Huh. And here, this whole time, I thought it had something to do with sexual attraction to other men. Silly me.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always thought attraction to other men was what made a man gay.. turns out it's liking crab legs. My life will never be the same again...

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We catch our own crabs where I live and they are just as tasty as advertised. I think I hear dinner today.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The list of thing I, as a man, am not allowed to do/want without being gay/feminine is just insane. Yo, bro? You seriously enjoying those crab legs right now? GAY!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

O no guys, she might be right, my husband loves crab legs....and he's gay....o no( obvious sarcasm)

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dammit now I want crab legs. Better tell the wife the bad news

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly I want to hear the justification on a lot of these... and this one is at the top of the list. Where tf you get this idea?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They must have a shellfish allergy, and like a rationally thinking adult have resorted to posting shiz like this to show their resentment on those able to eat it. How is the word 'gay' still being used as an insult?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I guess my SO is 🔥. Deep freezer stay with crab legs.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless we're talking about "fish tacos" WTH does seafood preference have to do with sexual orientation?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Say you're insecure about your masculinity without saying you're insecure about your masculinity

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

James Butler is a septic tank guy on TikTok and YouTube who has a 'manly' job, but also decent general advice about being a boss of a company. It's not all dancing and "challenges" on TikTok.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else think that the whole alpha, beta, sigma whatever is just dude bro astrology?

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