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People say a lot of stupid stuff. And we judge them for it. But every now and then, over time, enough evidence emerges to prove us all wrong and redeem even the wildest statements.

Interested in these cases, Redditor TheCheeryStranger recently asked other platform users, "What 'crazy' person in history was right the whole time?" and everyone immediately started sending in their answers.

From Ernest Hemingway talking about the FBI tailing him to Galileo Galilei being trialed by the Church for his heretic claim that the Earth revolves around the sun, here are some of the most interesting ones.

#1

30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Clair Patterson-he was made out to be crazy by giant oil companies bc he tested ice cores in the Arctic and figured out that the amount of lead in the atmosphere, the water, and our bodies was extremely high and caused by leaded gasoline. He petitioned Congress for years to make it illegal to add lead to gasoline, but the corporations kept getting him shut down because they used lead as an anti-knock agent for internal combustion engines. Ironically, lead was causing everyone else to go crazy because it is shaped like a neurotransmitter and blocks receptors causing insanity, similarly to what mercury does, and many employees of the oil companies had gone mad. After decades of battling the oil companies, he finally got his way and lead was removed from gasoline. Since then, the amount of lead in the atmosphere and I’m living things has decreased dramatically. Clair Patterson… a f**king hero. He also created the first truly “clean room.”

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Jerry Mathers
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They knew lead was bad before they ever started adding it gas. What the oil companies didn't know was what the effects on the atmosphere were. Their approach, much like you see know, is deny, do no or little research, and put it in now and we will deal with it later. Oil companies have been c**p forever

Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Make higher. This guy has saved *generations* of people. Should be on a coin or dollar bill.

Erich Walz
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fun Fact: Leaded gasoline was invented by Thomas Midgley, Jr, who also developed/commercialized the use of Freon for refrigeration.

Tonk Terrier
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3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tetra Ethyl Lead-probably the single biggest killer the world has known. The oil companies knew it was killing people, but didn't care. There is a very high correlation between violence and mental health problems and the amount of lead in the air.

Asher Tye
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They even tried to bribe him to get rid of or alter his findings but he was having none of that.

Mosheh Wolf
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nobody though that he was crazy. People simply never heard of him because the oil companies were so effective in shutting him down. This repeated set of false histories, created to create common false narratives of "look, everybody thought that HE/SHE was crazy, but look now!!! It is a narrative typically pushed by anti-science types who are trying to "prove" that when scientists say that somebody is crazy, the scientists are always wrong. In fact, when scientists say that somebody is crazy, the scientists are almost always right. However, when industry people claim that somebody is crazy, you should really look at what that person is saying. Industry only calls somebody "crazy" if that person is saying something that threatens the industry's profits.

April
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Makes me wonder how many theories we currently think of as crazy are anything but.

Elle O
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Three clean room was created due to his tests on measuring lead, since he kept finding lead in everything. Including but not limited to his assistant's lipstick/makeup, which unfortunately is still a thing!

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    #2

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Sinead O’Connor - she was vilified for ripping up a photo of the pope to protest child abuse within the Catholic Church. Spoiler alert - the Catholic Church was covering up child abuse.

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    Rost it
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dont think any reasonable people thought she was crazy. this has been known for years. the catholic church is one of the worst organizations in the world. They have killed more people over the years than any country.

    jevais
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This organization has almost wiped out the first nation people of the Americas, the Inquisition throughout all their colonized colonizers, believing in witchcraft and all the rest.

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    Jayne Kyra
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "the Catholic Church was covering up child abuse." IS covering up child abuse. Just a little fix.

    SinéadQ
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her career was destroyed after that. So sad. She has the most incredible voice.

    Everything is fascinating.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She was right about this. She was/is slightly.... unstable. Sadly that detracts from her very important message.

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    Chich
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always been a fan. I saw this episode live. I remember thinking that takes some guts and was suprised at how much negative respose it got.

    Kona Pake
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What about the kidnapping and imprisonment of indigenous children and their murder around the world!

    Susie Elle
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That, too, is a problem, however we were talking about a different problem than this one.

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    Asher Tye
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Was? She still is being vilified in some circles.

    buttonpusher
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They pretty much controlled Ireland. Hating on the pope was a big no-no. I mean what would the neighbours think! Thinks have changed a lot, fortunately. She does have mental health issues, and then her son's suicide early in the year. She hasn't had it easy. 😟

    Stan Brooks
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every Catholic Church should be considered a crime scene and wrapped in crime scene tape.

    Melissa Rodriguez
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That goes for the majority of organized religions as well.

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    Leigh Jones
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Enda Kenny Taoiseach had this brilliance to say. I've never heard a WM politician so utterly convincing or truthful, much less a Church leader. Enda ripped the guts out of any denial by anyone anywhere. Probably why we don't hear it enough. “Tuam is not just a burial ground, it is a social and cultural sepulchre. That is what it is. As a society in the so-called ‘good old days’, we did not just hide away the dead bodies of tiny human beings, we dug deep and deeper still to bury our compassion, our mercy and our humanity itself,”

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    #3

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Stanislav Petrov. Though we don't see him as crazy, I'm sure his crewmates thought he was. He directly disobeyed Soviet military protocols and prevented a nuclear war.

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    Romenriel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the few real people that can say they literally saved the world.

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one thought he was crazy. They thought he was smart and responsible which is why he was in charge of making that call. I dont think the author understands the topic or they were short on content.

    Everything is fascinating.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Currently there are several Russian generals in prison. Disobeying political commands in the name of reality is not a good idea in the current climate of regaining the glory of the USSR. Imagine being in the ACTUAL USSR. This man was not just doing his job. He was incredibly brave.

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    Tamara Kroonen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should be number one. He is literally the greatest hero in history. Without him, we wouldn't even exist anymore. My gratitude towards this man goes from the moon and back.

    Rost it
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He did his job. That was actually and really his job to determine if there is a threat. Neither country wanted to be the initiator of ww3.

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    Rikki Weber
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This man should have won the Nobel Prize before anyone else!

    EJN
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope there are some young men like him still sitting with the missiles these days...in every country that has atomic missiles.

    Janet Graham
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And we thank God that he made this decision. It is scary how close we are to nuclear war, all of the time.

    Andrew Bome
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The most amazing part of the story is that when he did this, he was freshly minted in that role.

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    #4

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Rose McGowan was completely ostracized and blacklisted for talking about Weinstein too early.

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    Caro Caro
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That took a lot of guts to talk about that pos.

    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel bad for her, b/c it took such a toll on her, and none on that piece of filth hanging off the a**e of a sheep with diarrhea.

    Om
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    she was also one of the very few artists that supported #freebritney

    Lisa Hewes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Similar story with Jen Kirkman about Louis CK. She tried for YEARS to get people to believe her about him, but it wasn't until a bunch more female comedians came forward with similar stories that society was like "....oh." Unfortunately, it takes many to bring down one in horrible cases such as these.

    King Kashue
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I see what you're saying, Kaos: Louis CK used his position of power and influence to manipulate and coerce women into sexual situations to which they did not consent whereas Weinstein used used his position of power and influence to manipulate and coerce women into sexual situations to which they did not consent - that's *completely* different!

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    Queen Jackson.
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s the woman that said imagine how tired we are.

    Ruth Hempsey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brava Rose. She paid a hard price for being gutsy.

    Julia Cargile
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read Ronan Farrow's "Catch and Kill" about Weinstein and Matt Lauer. These men are filth.

    Nadine
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Too early? That's A weird way to phrase it. Like she should have waited?

    Weed in the Garden
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'Too early' meaning she was alone in her allegations and no one else would come forward.

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why hasn't Rose McGowan received public apologies from all those that scoffed at her and ostracized her? Rose McGowan was the bravest female celebrity to come forward because she did it before it was a country wide movement.

    Janet Graham
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want to know why those who enabled him have not been totally blacklisted? The most prominent one, in my mind, is Oprah. She knew what was going on and would still bring young girls to meet him and then leave them alone with him until they got themselves out of his clutches.

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    #5

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Tesla. Edison is still credited with the lightbulb. His last words put it into perspective "All these years that I had spent in the service of mankind brought me nothing but insults and humiliation"

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    IlovemydogShilo
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This picture 😂. Hellllloooooooo ladies.

    Dadolwch
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tesla is definitely underappreciated, though this post doesn't really do his accomplishments justice at all.

    Jeremy Pierce
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Edison was a straight up criminal, but he had powerful friends so he is labeled an inventor. He bullied, strong armed, intimidated, stole, corporate espionage, stuff like that.

    Nikki Sevven
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tesla was quite literally the Father of the 20th Century.

    Robyn Bowns
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing used in every aspect of everyday life in the 21st century would exist without him.

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    Queen Jackson.
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This comment thread is weirdly fascinating.

    Kona Pake
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At the hands of that nefarious thief, Edison.

    Pamela Jarvis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You would think that those bankrolling Edison would have a clue as to what was going on. Makes me mad and sad. A true humanitarian who suffered because of greed. Think how things would be now if we all benefitted from free electricity.

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    APL
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The lightbulb was also separately invented by Joseph Swann.

    Zero
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And by several others such as William Sawyer and Albon Man. Electric light was first demonstrated in 1835 in the UK, before Edison was even born, but was pretty crude. After that it was a race by inventors around the world tried to figure out a safe, efficient way to make it usable. The Sawyer-Man duo and Swann both came up with really good designs and had a hand in shaping the light bulb industry, but it was Edison who brought it all together. He merged his company with an electric company that used the Sawyer-Man patent, and merged his UK interests with a company that used Swann's version. Then his team did what was really important, which was to make all of the other aspects, such as the ability to mass produce, the bulb base & screw, a good vacuum pump, etc. and to use the might of his companies to get it all out there. So we're back to that he was individually a crappy inventor but incredible businessman.

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    Mark Melton
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We know now that Thomas Edison was an immoral thief and liar. He stole ideas directly from the patent office and overwhelmed them with lawsuits. Edison was a pos.

    Colin Leamon
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know the feeling. The fact no one has heard of me or believes a word I say stands as its own testimony - but there's always beer. Shame it can't kill the brain cells quick enough

    Elle O
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should your name be Cassandra, as well? For (simplified) context, Cassandra was a woman that Apollo blessed with the gift of extremely accurate sight, then cursed her so no one would believe her or heed her advice.

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    martin734
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, although he did a huge amount of extremely important work and made some amazing discoveries, he was still a bit of a fruit cake. For every act of absolute genius, there was often a moment of total lunacy and he was not above bending the truth for his own advantage sometimes. He and Edison were often as bad as each other.

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    #6

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along The inventor of dialysis, Dr. Willem Kolff. Although it's hard to blame them, haha. He saw people dying of kidney disease and said "Hey, what if we take all of the blood out of your body, clean it, and put it back in?" (Cleaning your blood is the job of your kidneys, and a dialysis machine is basically an artificial kidney, on the *outside* of your body.) It was a wild idea and he started his work during WWII and had to work with basic materials like orange juice cans, sausage skins, and a washing machine. Many of the first patients died, but they were already going to die painfully. Eventually, he ironed the kinks out and started saving lives.

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    Hawkmoon
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And now, many people, without hesitation, directly believe any dumb influencer who tells them to drink a detox drink because that's "useful and beneficial for your health". Strange world.

    Susie Elle
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Influencer: "Everyone should detox regularly!" Liver and kidneys: "Are we a joke to you?"

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    Makajha Banjjjak
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He apparently received a lot of awards for his work, so not much of a 'crazy'. Btw he was Dutch, just in case someone sees German looking name and WW2 medical experiments in one sentence (like I did).

    shodokai
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are no detoxing foods, that's for profit hooey. Kidneys and Liver detox the blood.

    PC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah it's weird that people do cleanses given this. But ok.

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    Wolfe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dialysis saved my aunt's life recently, so thank you, Dr. Willem Kolff

    Roy Webb
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually knew Dr. Kolff at the University of Utah. A very gracious man, he used to take myself and my staff to lunch and tell us stories.

    Jiminy
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He wasn't really regarded as crazy. Doctors were already researching it for years with several good outcomes in animals before. A German doctor even had patients survive a "blood wash" in the 20s.

    Andrea Kehe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dialysis gave my Dad many more years of life

    Minx McCloud
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I myself am on dialysis and would be dead if I wasn't. It's a miserable time consuming procedure (3 times a week, 4 hours a session), but I am very grateful that it is available and is keeping me alive. Thanks, Dr Kilff and my battery of technicians.

    Roy Phillips
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kidney dialysis is still done essentially the same way it was when this innovation came about. But it is hardly a perfect way to deal with kidney disease. I watched a friend of mine go through this procedure for quite a while, and here's what happens: You have to have a port-I think that's what they call it-put in where your blood is removed and another (?) where it reenters your body. It is not perfect in that blood clots are always a problem. you spend quite a bit of time undergoing treatment. There's been talk recently of an artificial kidney that could be implanted into the human body, and would clean the impurities from the blood without all the messy side effects of dialysis. Here's hoping we're not being led on, that this can become a reality for those who are suffering from kidney disease.

    Janet Graham
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So many medical inventors that we need to remember.

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    #7

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Lisa Bonet. She was vilified for hating Cosby in the 80s. Who’s the villain now?

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    Lorrie Rothstein
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He didnt like when she was naked in a movie. He had her character denise leave diffrent world because she was pregnabt in real life

    Broad Panda
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That was the story people heard at the time. Who knows?

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    ChickyChicky
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can I vilify her in jealousy of her marrying two of the most gorgeous men on the planet?

    Robyn Bowns
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Two of the most beautiful men, inside and out. Their personalities are even more beautiful than they look 👀 But then again, so is she....

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    GettheOtis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And people are still loathe to believe that he's a creep

    Beanie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a strong, intelligent & beautiful woman Ms Bonet is.

    shodokai
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cosby is a hell beast of brutality and abuse. I hope when he dies, it's alone and in pain.

    Debra Robinson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, very slowly in the WORST pain imaginable!!! Well, someone should record it for a good laugh.

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The fact that noone believed Lisa Bonet is a what is wrong with society. Not to mention that Bill Cosby is a Serial Rapist that never paid for his crimes! I can only hope that Lisa Bonet is strong enough to handle the fact her bravery and voice to help women went unheard. Lisa you are brave and I "Thank you" as a rape survivor for trying to get a serial rapist held for his monster ours actions.

    Elizabeth VanDyke
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same attitude about all the women who accused tRUMP of molesting them. Especially the young girl who testified that he raped her when she was 13 years old.

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    Adrienne Mcginley
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cosby is such a misogynist that he all but defines the word.

    JJ Moore
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She’s always been a bad a**!

    Mrs.C
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Loved her then, love her now.

    Doug the Special one
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is pregnabt worse than just being pregnant?

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    #8

    Corey Feldman talking about child sex abuse in Hollywood.

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    JJ Moore
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor Corey(s); they both deserved so much better.

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    SinéadQ
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor guy. It's really heartbreaking and disgusting what a lot of child actors went through.

    Paw Paw
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son was one of the most handsome boys ever. Black-brown hair, startling blue eyes, 6'2". He was scouted when he was 14, and I said NO! My friend had a great way of putting things in perspective for him ... "It's not who you know - it's who you blow" That made his mind up reeeeaaaal fast!

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    Robert Kuntz
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shirley Temple, in 1939, was lured to the casting couch. Not much was done back then and sadly went on for too many decades.

    Pamela Jarvis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WOW She handled that past really well from what I know of her. Married, a ambassador, always gracious... probably had a good publicist too.

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    Mrs.C
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the wonderful Barbara Walters was worried about all the careers he was ruining by telling the truth. I'm so glad he kept talking.

    Persephone
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's a hero. I'm so sorry for his suffering... along with all whistle blowers.

    Leigh Jones
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. He's been gilded with some 'early trauma, lifelong drama' badge. WHAT makes anyone think that hideous abuses in childhood can just be 'got over'? People who escape childhood abuse generally do so by finding independence. And a voice, and a pathway for ambition. If all of that is blocked by an industry that would wish you destroyed rather than vocal. IDK what chance anyone has in that set of circumstances.

    Ja R
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and Hollywood did nothing

    Crystal Spencer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, the abuse made him turn to drugs and as a result is indeed, batshit crazy. But, he should totally have his name cleared in Hollywood and be given another shot instead of still being ostracized.

    Potato
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Is indeed batshit crazy" don't pretend you know anything about his mental health. You aren't his psychologist.

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    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along John Yudkin. The single scientist who didn't believe the sugar industry's research that demonized fats. Till his death he's adamant that fats weren't the cause of obesity and heart attacks.

    HayakuEon , Faran Raufi Report

    rumade
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup, my mum read his book Pure, White and Deadly many years ago. People thought he was a conspiracy nut, because *surely* fat in food leads to fat in arteries. Tell that to the people who live in the Arctic Circle and traditionally eat large amounts of seal blubber. To be honest though, I hate this crusade against sugar we're now having. In the UK everything is packed with artificial sweeteners. I'd rather have real sugar, in small quantities as a treat than eat sweeteners regularly. There's emerging evidence that they do damage to your gut microbiome.

    Rens
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm with you 100%. I have fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue and both of them are triggered into flares due to artificial sweeteners. I understand the need for diet drinks but I have checked to the fact that so-called normal drinks have sugar and sweeteners in them. I'm old enough and mature enough and educated enough to know about sugar but it's my choice my body, I really don't object to pay extra for sugar in drinks or anything else for that matter....

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    Caro Caro
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sad that a scientist isn't believed. Even today there are still people who deny the existence of Covid and that vaccines don't work. Sigh.

    DC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... and neither are bad by themselves. Its the overuse of it that ruins sugar, ruins fat, ruins everything.

    Hanni
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No only sugar but starches too. They break down to sugar.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yudkin's research wasn't the only one. it didn't correlate to many in medicine. And a high-fat diet *will* kill you, btw, so please don't think you can ditch sugar and eat pork rinds and be just fine. You won't.

    Robyn Bowns
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always tried to encourage those people that thought Atkins was a high protein high fat diet that high animal fat, especially their #1goto bacon, was bad in every way. Fish fat? Sure. Beef and pork? Not so much...

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    Shane S
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fat is not bad! Excess carbs are bad. Sugar is pure carb.

    Felicia Dale
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. If you want fat cattle you feed them grain.

    Catherine Baker
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Eat sugar, get hungry, eat more sugar, get hungrier...

    Frank Ropen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fats are a cause of obesity and heart attacks. Sugar is just another cause.

    Robyn Bowns
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My grandpa studied chemical engineering(though went mechanical in his career) he had heart disease pretty young and did a lot of research on it. He taught me that sugar is kinda worse for the heart because of triglycerides. Of your total cholesterol you want ldl and triglycerides to be lower than hdl. Consuming foods that contain hdl lipoproteins "sweep up" ldl lipoproteins but triglycerides aren't so easy to deal with.

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    #10

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along There was a wacko looking guy on Oprah who stopped his vanilla presentation to tell the audience that plastic causes cancer, stop using it to store food and water. Oprah cut to commercial and whisked him off the show. Dude was right. BPAs were outed that day, but it took another decade for that info to become public knowledge.

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    BWC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She did provide both Dr. Phil and Dr. oz platforms for their drivel.

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    rumade
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's time to return to storing things in glass jars instead.

    Moo Moo Futch
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oprah is an absolute snake of a woman. Awful.

    CatGirl
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oprah is just the absolute worst. It's easy to see how characters like Kim Kardashian are harmful to culture generally, but Oprah's vibe and backstory have made us give her the benefit of the doubt. In reality, she has a far more sinister and complex hold on people.

    Busy Panda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, you're right. And she was behind Dr. Oz campaign for Senate in 2022.

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    Ruth Hempsey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was ready to down vote this when I thought it was praising Oprah. Take her image off this topic. She doesn't deserve that her mugshot be shown amongst real altruists.

    Analyn Lahr
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So Oprah is part of the plastic mafia?

    Channen TTCL
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aaaand she gave us Dr Oz. Oprah has a crappy track record for healthy living.

    Danielle Keogh
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All plastics are harmful to a lesser or greater extent, BPA has been proven harmful, it's replacements simply haven't been tested yet. Phthalates have been proven over and over to be harmful also. We rely on plastic so heavily that banning any one compound leads to a slew of replacements that are untested and possibly even worse than what they're replacing.

    Riley Quinn
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She gave us "Drs." Oz and Phil, both harmful influencers, AND she purposefully delayed public knowledge of BPAs?

    Debzmc
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Typical Oprah ! To scared to ask questions that may lead to something important . Awful interviewer!

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    #11

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Will Rogers a humorist when he invented the term "trickle-down" economics as a joke stating that this type of economy would just make the rich richer and the poor poorer. And then we actually implemented it and used the term trickle-down. And Will Rogers was right. The rent has gone though the roof and our salaries have stagnated and we can't afford "The American Dream" anymore.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The fact anyone voted twice for the administration that implemented trickle-down economics still shocks me, and I was alive for both times Reagan was voted in... And old enough to cry both times, too.

    Jerry Mathers
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even worse, in the 90s, politicians from both parties would revere him. In terms of damage to the US, it's hard to find a president that hurt us more. I know Trump is a bed stain on the US, and he did a lot of harm. But, much like life, he is pretty incompetent. Other than moving more money upwards (and every Republican president since Reagan has done this), he messed things up more than changed them.

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    Zero
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And people still argue that it "worked" when Reagan did it. No, it didn't; it's been tried several times and never has.

    v
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing so many in the U.S. that trickle down economics actually works.

    MikeyWaveOven (he/him)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to be a Debbie downer, but we never could achieve the American dream. Fitzgerald wrote about being unattainable in the 20s, a century ago.

    rumade
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And Steinbeck of course. The American dream... work hard and stay positive and you can have the life you want. Tell that to the family in Grapes of Wrath.

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    Turnip and a Frog
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The new American dream is life-work balance. And being able to afford subscriptions in the future economic model - for your flat, your car, your holidays

    Jimichan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always thought of it as "Tinkle Down." The government gives money to the rich and they p**s on the rest of us.

    Roxy Eastland
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What? Thatcher was using the term to explain why Tory policies of the 80s that were making rich people richer would also make poor people richer. The term came from someone who was stated that it wouldn't work that way?? FFS.

    Seabeast
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I hear "trickle down", it isn't money that immediately comes to mind.

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    #12

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Hemingway talked about the FBI following him prior to his suicide. They thought he was paranoid. Decades later some papers get released, turns out the FBI was following him.

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    Nunya Bus
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think at a certain point people should have just assumed every single famous person during Hoover's reign, be they a poet, author, actor, politician or activist was under FBI surveillance.

    Powerful Katrinka
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My uncle was a prominent educator and pacifist during the 1960s and 70s. After Hoover's death, Uncle John was crushed--CRUSHED-- to learn that he wasn't on Hoover's enemy list.

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    Aahzmandus Pervect
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On a somewhat related note, I think Hemingway is overrated.

    SomePeopleCallMeMaurice
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A hundo%! Even as a teen, forced to read his work in school, I couldn’t stand him, either!

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    Elizabeth VanDyke
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    J. Edgar was a closet queen and was paranoid about almost everything and everybody.

    Janet Graham
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean you are wrong.

    Mosheh Wolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Almost everybody who was known outside of their hometown was followed by the FBI when Edgar Hoover was running it. He WAS paranoid, though, and he was one of the world's biggest assholes.

    Kim Lorton
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hoover was suspicious of pretty mu anyone, of influence, and poor Hemingway, just wanted to fish and drink, spend time with good friends, smoke and drink.Hoover, didn’t think it was something a man could want to do.

    William Wallner
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read The Crook Factory for an interesting spin on Hoover, Hemingway, Kennedy,,,. Labeled 85% true.

    April Pickett
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you, J. Edgar for all of the crazy, crazy theories and assumptions you made.

    Susan Maves
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean they are not after you

    Ruth Hempsey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While this might be true it hardly makes him a hero. Unlike whistle-blowers exposing wrongs who actually deserve some acknowledgement.

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    #13

    Rutherford B Hayes. Not necessarily viewed as crazy, but largely viewed as a bad or useless president. "This is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people no longer. It is a government of corporations, by corporations, and for corporations." Said that in the late 1800's.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was POTUS 1876-81, after a very nasty election (think: the 2016 of its day). The qoute can be found in "The Diary & Letters" of same, published in the edition I've seen in 1920-something.

    Kathryn Baylis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wasn’t that the beginning of the Gilded Age? If so, he possessed a huge amount of foresight.

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    Tamra Stiffler
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The notion of a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" has been a sadly laughable concept for some time now.

    Tim
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also made a backroom deal to become president that ended Reconstruction and basically allowed the re-enslavement of African Americans in the South.

    jevais
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people no longer. It is a government of corporations, by corporations, and for corporations." this could be applied Worldwide.

    Wintermute
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then came along Teddy Roosevelt, the trust buster and changed that. Then we went back to business as usual and had the great depression. We need another Teddy.

    Seadog
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now it's not even that. It's a government staffed by a group of elitist that have placed themselves on pedestals above the law.

    King Kashue
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was a bad president - or, at the very least, his presidency was a bad presidency. Came into office via a backroom deal to end Reconstruction and usher in Jim Crow.

    Lori E
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Glad to see this here. When I was in high school( a longggg time ago), I did a report on him after visiting where he grew up. The only information I could dig up at that time was very unfavorable

    ί𝔫CίŦᵃт𝐔𝐬
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His home in Delaware Ohio was allowed to be torn down and replaced with a gas station. Go America!

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    Aris Tzafalias
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In our days, it is a government of Mafia, by Mafia, and for the Mafia.

    Jeremy Bell
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, he certainly got that right. And it has not changed!

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    #14

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along During the plague in Moscow there was a priest (or something) DIScouraging people kissing the statue of Maria, as to stop the spreading of the virus. The poor man was burned alive for blasphemy.

    JustAbel , Yuri Levchenko Report

    Robert Kuntz
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a pagan were to kiss the statue of their deity of choice, the Christian would exclaim, "Demon Worship!" If a Christian were to kiss the statue of Mary, it is merely veneration of a saint. To the eyes and mind of a rational thinker, they are both kissing a non-living statue.

    Leah Reid
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good Ole Christian's. o.O not a hypocritical cult.

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    phil blanque
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    During the early pandemic many people in the US were transmitting the virus through kissing, as well, but it was not a statue, not other people's lips, but some vile part of the then US president. And they continue still.

    Mike Weber
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plague or not, it probably isn't a good idea to kiss statues where pigeons roost

    Edward Hara
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love all the things that Christians have done over the centuries that you can nowhere find in the Bible. Would love to know where these people found "Burn the one who says things you don't like."

    EJN
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The old version of asking people to mask. The ones who refuse burn the ones who comply. That must explain one reason why the plague was so deadly.

    shodokai
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah The Church... (all they really wanted was the offerings of the kissers anyway)

    Kona Pake
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, faith will protect you from plague and disease.

    jevais
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now where in the new testament such strange beliefs are stated. Though shall not kill has been waved aside, why?

    Андрій Мельник
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    брехня! в церквах москви ніколи статуй не було не палили - це не інквізіція цілували ту саму ікону постійно. і зараз теж

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    #15

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Giordano Bruno was (probably) the first European who proposed the possibility that not only was the universe infinite, but stars were not just points of light in the sky; they could be suns with their own planets, and that some of those planets might even host life. The Catholic Church had him tried for Heresy and had him burned at the stake and his contemporaries though he was completely insane. He had some kooky ideas, but he was absolutely right about the size of the universe and stars being suns with their own planets.

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    Catherine Côté
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But we don't talk about him (Bruno) 😂

    Sheldon Yee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    𝆕𝆕𝆕 NOOoO nOOoOoo NoooO nNooO nOOoO 𝆕𝆕𝆕

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    Zero
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dude was fascinating in that he had advanced views on a lot of different subjects - how memory works, multiverse theory, other planets & alien life, etc. But it wasn't his views on space/stars that got him in trouble with The Church, though they did contribute. He was a friar and was teaching reincarnation, that Jesus was a lying liar about the Trinity, that other planets had life independent of Christianity, and that people shouldn't be afraid of heaven or hell. He was also hugely arrogant and gruff, which doesn't go over well with authority figures.

    jevais
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Strange that a so called Christian church has murdered so many that didn't think like them. The Bible says thou shall not kill.

    Robert Kuntz
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thou shall not suffer a witch to live. One of many place in Exodus, and Old Testament where killing was the prescribed method of elimination.

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    Featherytoad
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so embarrassed to have been brought up Catholic

    phil blanque
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ahh...again the Catholic church.

    shodokai
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From what I read and have experienced, Giordano had an out of body experience that prompted his revelations and insights. Catholics murdered him for making them feel uncomfortable.

    Phillip Shepard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They also forced Galileo to "recant" about is theories about the universe under threat of death. It took the church 600 years to "rehabilitate" him and admit they were wrong. Same thing with genetics and evolution. There are fundamentalists who still teach that the earth is mere 6000 years old and that genetics and evolution are not true. Totally anti-science.

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    Eat Dirt Crow
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once saw an interview with Ricky Gervais asking why he had "faith" in science and not god. His answer came down to something like if you took all the science books and all the religious texts and destroyed all of them in 1000 years the information from the science books will be the same as it is now and the religious texts won't.

    Colin Leamon
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Burned at the stake - recant! I mean, recant!

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    #16

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Craig Ferguson having empathy for Britney Spears in his 2007 monologue.

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    Caro Caro
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Free Britney! Hooray, now she can get on with her life.

    HarriMissesScotland
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my former student assistants had a band that opened for Britney. The stars aligned and I was in Phoenix on my birthday and would get to see my friend before the show, then stay for his set. BTW, this was her first tour, and I really had no desire to stay and see all the dads with their prepubescent daughters drooling over poor Britney. Please don't think I am being critical of her, I am not, nor her fans. But some of the men...their daughters wanted to share the experience, and the pervents , well, they were disgusting. Even my male friend who went with me was disgusted.

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    David Gallagher
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aw, I miss this guy. Loved his Late Late show - he was genuine and funny, and didn't care to appeal or follow script. James Corden was a c**p follow-up to him.

    Two_rolling_black_eyes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He is/was a recovering addict who also had a history of depression. Because of this, he repeatedly went out of his way to not mock people who were struggling with issues. He was also open-minded enough to judge people on how they treated others instead of what others said about them. His mom and RZA from Wu-Tang Clan were good friends and she attended several of his concerts in both LA and Scotland because of it. Craig introduced them because he thought they had a similar upbringing and turned out to be right.

    Adrienne Mcginley
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He spoke up for someone who had no voice.

    John Rizcallah
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is one of the greatest TV monologues of all time. Highly, highly recommend everybody watch it. Craig Ferguson seems like an amazing person.

    RoseTheMad
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We called Britney crazy too, but now... I don't blame her one bit for that complete breakdown.

    Goth Nurse
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Didn't she post some weird (and nude) stuff in Instagram just recently? Leading fans to be worried about her yet again.

    Potato
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kim Kardashian poses nude all the time. No one worries about her.

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    Claire Yance
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I miss Craig's "insight" & humor. I can only guess how many fragile folks he'd have running for their safe space nowadays.

    Nubis Knight
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even Dieter Bohlen had empathy for her so we really should have realized s**t hit the fan.

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    #17

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Remember the government accountant in George W Bush’s presidency who said the war in Afghanistan would cost a billion dollars a month and he was fired? Well, he was right. It was 300 million dollars per day for 20 years.

    CategoryTurbulent114 , Towfiqu barbhuiya Report

    Stephen Leifer
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least former Halliburton CEO, Cheney, got his company no-bid contracts to help rebuild Iraq.

    Scagsy
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That was terribly fortunate, wasn't it? I am sure there was nothing at all corrupt about it.

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    Makajha Banjjjak
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And US ppl are surprised they don't have access to public healthcare, education, social support, maternity leave. their taxes can only stretch that far.

    Isabel Frost
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So actually 9 billion dollars per month?

    Kevin Hickey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But hey, we can't afford National Healthcare.

    shodokai
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perpetual War Machine for perpetual tax dollar siphoning...

    EJN
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Politics has little use for truth.

    Mickie Shea
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The man was right on and why did they not burn him alive?

    LaToya Mack
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Still can’t understand why the bush administration aren’t in jail or hung… make it make sense!!! Now he’s painting- GTFOH!

    James Tomlinson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    $300 Million per day is $100B per year. That is an order of magnitude more than $1B/mth.

    The IRS
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was asked and said *more* than $1b a month. Not it IS $1b a month.

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    Janet Graham
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Considering the wars continued on way past when they were finished, it is not all on Bush.

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    #18

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Anyone who covered their webcam camera.

    ironwolf6464 , Emiliano Cicero Report

    Xottel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which is weird because never have I witnessed anyone cover their phone camera.

    Autumn
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do it all the time with sparkly tape. I've never seen anyone else do it though so I probably look like a weirdo.

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    Fitz_N_Fartz
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't have a webcam now but always bought webcams in the past that had lens covers. Reason, when a tech savvy friend remoted to my PC and took over the webcam made me think hard pretty quick.

    I Maximus
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just be glad it was a friend.

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    Irish Lad
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm out of the loop. Where/when has our phone camera been used against us? People are always using it anyway. Snapchat, photos by the zillions, instagram, tiktok, and more. And don't down vote me, just answer my question.

    Chris M
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Laptop webcams can be hacked and turned on remotely; this has led to people being filmed in their homes without their knowledge. If you keep a physical cover over your webcam, or better yet use an external webcam that you can unplug when you are done, you are safe.

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    Ingrid Karena Santana-Ramirez
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve done this before I knew the camera could be reversed and could be used to spy on you. I have seen some movies about this and think back to the time I covered it. Now my device has a built in cover and my phones are covered. I even use Duck Duck Go to prevent my internet viewing private.

    PC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So. It prevents your internet viewing from being private. Right, got it.

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    Drea Benoit
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I definitely do that on my employer-provided laptop

    Fake Name
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *Slowly closes the lid of my webcam...*

    James Bailey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love this thought. It has it's route in stage magic and con artists. If you convince everyone that covering the webcam with tape some how is magic shield to stop some unknown 'bogey man' spying on you in your underpants, they are likely to feel more comfortable behind their shield. Now the kicker is, although there is no doubt really valuable infomation that can be gleaned from the webcam, the real pot of gold is the microphone. Why is it you think government agents and spy movies go though all sorts of complex clandestine activities to get a 'bug' (mic) into the target's orbit and not always a camera? Most social media don't try to hard to say "oh no we're not listening, honest" (jury is still out on them doing that). The truth is both equally as terrifying as it is boring. If you see ads for something, its more likely the know about you and the time you spend talking with/in the same area as a person that's searched for, looked at vids of that thing suggests that you might too

    LagoonaBlueColleen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My PC has a lens slider. I've seen my camera light on for no reason and then shut off when I closed Facebook but had other windows up.

    Dre Mosley
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had tape over mine for years.

    Seabeast
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I put a McIntosh apple sticker over the camera lens of my Mac. It seemed appropriate.

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    #19

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Heinrich Schliemann. He 100% believed that ancient Troy had really existed. So he armed himself with a copy of the Iliad, and actually managed to find and excavate the city. He'd told everyone and their sister that Troy was a real place for 40 years before he found it, and everyone thought he was cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Not so much, it turns out.

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    troufaki13
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He ruined half of it in the excavation process... :(

    Cowws
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't blame him. There were like 17 towns, all from different periods, under each other and only one of them was Troy

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    Randolph Croft
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He also had late-stage syphilis, which literally did make him crazy. He was a genius and learned languages by shouting out passages from classical literature in that language, then the translation. Over and over, late into the night. Over a period of weeks, he could converse in English, French, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Russian, Swedish, Polish, Greek, Latin, and Arabic, besides his native German

    Carlotta Müller
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, no, this isn't true. He was never a real scientist. And where he claimed it was his idea to excavete, another person a real archaeologist had tried to find it. Only this person did not had enough money, so Schliemann jumped in. And then claimed Calverts idea as his own. Plain idea theft. Then he went on to ruin the place with a big furrow. Cause he had not idea what he was doing and he was not an archaeologist. He was a stupid bungler with a lot of money. So no, he has not done any good.

    Doug the Special one
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As with all history, things were different back then.

    Jonny Chevalier
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    found the tresure and took it with him. to Gemany.

    Janet Graham
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love this kind of drive. The passion to know something in your bones and keep after it until you are proven correct.

    Mickie Shea
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His discovery actually helped Brad star in a movie about Troy.

    Geordie Girl
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pity he didn't look for Atlantis, too.

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    #20

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Martha Mitchell.. She was like part of the reason why it was discovered that Nixon was involved in Watergate. Her husband was part of the Nixon group so she got some inside details. When she wanted to tell the news about the whole scandal, her husband and Nixon men put her in a hotel and restrained her from having any contact with anyone. She was seen as an insane person her husband and Nixon's men even managed to convince the psychiatrists that she was out of her mind. Actually there's a phenomenon in psychology which was named after her a.k.a the Martha Mitchell Effect

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    K D
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From Wikipedia: “The Martha Mitchell effect refers to the process by which a psychiatrist, psychologist, mental health clinician, or other medical professional labels a patient's accurate perception of real events as delusional, resulting in misdiagnosis.”

    Kona Pake
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is there anyway we can put Trump in a hotel and restrain him from having contact with anyone, and they declare him out of his mind?

    Notyomama
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would be nice. Can we also throw in all the politicians still singing his praises?

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    Broad Panda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I doubt they "convinced" the psychiatrists she was put of her mind. More likely paid/blackmailed them.

    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This also tells you a lot about how women are treated. Today, the default is "Is she lying?" instead of "Is HE lying?"

    GettheOtis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have never know about this, had it not been for an episode of "Drunk History"

    Phillip Shepard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is similar to the way the that psychiatry was practiced in the USSR. Basically if you said anything contrary to the state you must be nuts. You could be involuntarily locked up in an asylum and given massive doses of tranquillizers or other abusive "treatments". Like the "conversion therapy" of non-straight persons and treatment of Alan Turing.

    Felice Coles
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS is why you can't trust psych professionals. They're prone to find their own delusions in others and they are easily bribed. You're better off talking to your dog.

    Xan Maranya
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Psych professionals are people who come in wide variety, like the rest of us.

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    Janet Graham
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was pretty young at the time, but we all knew she was not nutty and that her husband was in it up to his neck. I still think she was the 'Deep Throat' of the Watergate scandal.

    Mosheh Wolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People didn't think that she was crazy because of what she said, but because Nixon's government had her purposefully misdiagnosed. Had her husband not been a raging narcissistic a*****e who cared more about his political career than about her life, and had Nixon not used the Constitution to wipe his a*s, nobody would have thought her crazy, based on her story.

    Mickie Shea
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good ol' Republican values at work/

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    #21

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Charles Darwin. The religious outcry against evolution was engineered by his academic rivals more than from religious resistance. But even now, after all that politics is centuries dead, there remain people who categorically resist demonstrable fact because of it.

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    Wintermute
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should be more commonly known. I didn't learn about the roots of the rejection of evolution until I was in a college level anthropology course. I always assumed it was a religious objection. Just proves that religion isn't qualified to know what it's upset about.

    Two_rolling_black_eyes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When Origin of the Species was first published, many faiths and churches supported his theories right off the bat. Pope Pius IX significantly called out and defended the theories in Vatican 1 and said faith and science are not contradictory as long as you do not deny the existence of the soul and there was a creator at some point. It was 20-40 years later the modern religious anti-evolutionary theories started to become significant. Darwin's writings were never put on the Catholic churches lists of banned books while those who disagreed with his theories (like Bergson's Creative Evolution) were banned as heretical. He started off as a preacher and ended up buried in Westminster Abbey as a hero to the English Church. Mendel, the pea guy you learned about in school and the father of genetics, was a monk whose works were both sponsored and published by the church. His friend Thomas "Darwin's bulldog" Huxley named agnosticism since science can neither prove nor disprove faith.

    Z Alexi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're teaching creationism or intelligent design, you need to be kicked out~~it's called the education biz~~not regression~~or Journeys thru the 18th Century. It's not enough that religions force junk down our throats by telling us what to wear, drink, eat, who to marry, where NOT to go, how to raise your kids, what movies NOT to see, music NOT to play, books NOT to read, how much to give to church~~& that's not enough interference in your life? Now you believe there's a man in the sky? And want others to believe your uneducated c**p? Try a science book...QUICK!

    Jasper Eagleton
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember reading that the scientists who originally studied and shaped the theory of evolution didn't find that it conflicted with their religion. They just thought it was God's plan. I'm not religious, but... could we not just go with that?

    APL
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Archbishop of Canterbury in Darwin's day, Frederick Temple, read On The Origin of Species. To his great credit, he understood it and was impressed by its elegance. "What could be better than God making the world?" he remarked, "God makes the world make itself!"

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    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is misleading. There were many who solidly believed, in the 1800s and through today, that the Scriptures contradict evolution. it wasn't just a cabal of rivals. Never underestimate the power of the "opiate of the masses".

    Romenriel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Optimism is the opium of the mankind! A healthy spirit stinks of stupidity! Long live Trotsky!

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    Randy Klefbeck
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people don't realize that he was schooled in theology itself, besides being a trained physician also.

    APL
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. He had considered joining the cloth himself.

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    shodokai
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most folks mistakenly boil his treatise into a sound bite and get it sorely wrong.

    K Wit
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Misinformation is now the biggest killer in the US

    Dekker451
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, the leading cause of death in the US (and worldwide, except for Africa) is cardiovascular disease.

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    Sue Sanders
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People resist science because there are infinitely more ignorant humans now.

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    #22

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Galileo - he believed the Earth and other planets orbited the Sun, contrary to popular belief that all stars and planets orbited Earth. The Catholic Church called it heresy, and ordered him to turn himself in to the Holy Office to begin a trial for his beliefs.

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    Stephen Leifer
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Galileo knew to tread lightly. His colleague, Giordano Bruno, was executed via burning at the stake for believing in heliocentricity.

    Bassa
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No he wasnt stop spreading cereal box fact bull. Bruno was burned for his views on the holy trinity, the soul and the wealth of the church. Not Heliocentrism which by 1600 was freely and openly discussed within the church and without.

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    Jules
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religion. Has and still does commit more atrocities in its name than anything else.

    Phil Green
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The thing is, some people think it risible looking back that the Catholic Church would burn people at the stake for heresy, but in the US there are still churches that believe in creationism and that we are the centre of the universe. These are the same people that deny women their rights...

    Spring Fisk
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just goes to show you how silly it is for the church (this includes me) to be afraid of science. Instead of broadening our horizons and praising God for making an even more intricate universe some saw it as a affront to Christianity. So sad. The same debate is happening now with evolution. Being at Evolutionary Creationists or Theistic revolutionist (believing God used evolution to create the world) is widely recognized in the church but others believe it is incongruous . Again, so sad. The pursuit of knowledge and critical thinking is so important, especially right now. Don't ever be discouraged to ask questions and dig into what you believe.

    Janet Graham
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The history of that era is quite frightening. One could meet horrible torture and death just for having deep thoughts and the audacity to prove it scientifically.

    Mickie Shea
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again the Church of great and little lies shuts knowledge down

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And it took the church only 400 years to apologize.

    Phillip Shepard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It only took the Church 600 years to "rehabilitate" him. It only took them 100 years to recognize evolution. Flat earthers and creationists, mostly fundamentalist Protestants believe in a divine catastrophic creation a mere 6000 years ago. This is delusion and anti-science. Myths about gods and creation are found in every primitive culture. Myths are mental projection, not reality.

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    #23

    Rachel Caron found that DDT was weakening the shells of bird eggs and contributing to the decline in the bald eagle population. She faced quite a bit of backlash from publishing her book "Silent Spring" detailing her research on the topic.

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    Jane Martin
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rachel Carson - guessing Caron is just a typo

    GlitterQueen541
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Likely a typo, but I appreciate the correction. I didn't know her name and am glad I can look her up correctly now!

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    Tuna Fish
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can remember in the 70's all of us kids riding our bikes in the smoke coming out of the mosquito trucks thinking we were having a fun ole time. Ignorance really is bliss.

    Lori E
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THiS! Sitting at the bus stop as the planes buzzed felt like feet from our heads and no where to run. We just sat and breathed and accepted.

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    Phillip Shepard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm 78, I read her book many years ago. It was very prophetic. Of course the polluting businesses even today hate her. More plastic, more pesticides, more coal and oil burning mean more $$$ for the industrialists and their paid lackeys in congress,

    Paw Paw
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read "Silent Spring" when I was 10 years old. And it terrified me. And made me who I am today.

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    Leoninus Fate
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    hmm, I can't believe I never heard of weakening bird eggshells, I would have thought that would come up at some point in my weird studies... {The powerful insecticide DDT was widely used in the 1940s and 1950s to curb mosquito populations until it was discovered that the chemical caused thinning of eggshells in some birds. This resulted in a rapid decline in bird populations} wow! Learn something new every day!

    Call Me Mars
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rachel Carson is a case study in my IB ESS class. I love her and really want to read her book.

    Paw Paw
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read "Silent Spring" when I was 10 years old. And it terrified me. And made me who I am today. Her book should be required reading for everyone on Earth.

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    WarpedThoughts
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    DDT also caused Massive health effects in the local farming community. Once talked to an older man from one of these communities that joked how the entire town had 'mush thyroids' (malfunctioning gland that controls your entire bodies system) because of the decades of DDT use. It was startling.

    rumade
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's Carson, not Caron.

    Maureen Matthew
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And DDT was banned causing huge number of deaths in the tropics from various flying inserts

    Lew Erhart
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Question what life form kills more humans per year by thousandfold than any other? MOSQUITO. When they eliminated DDT millions have died yearly ever since. Fing mosquito nets are useless. I'm Alaskan and my father was a bushpilot untill he died at 94 years old. He crop dusted with DDT and every other chemical in production. No mask no nothing dumping bales of fertilizer laced with b ug killer. I started helping him at ten years old, He even wrote the manual for HELICOPTER SPRAYING much more effective method. Green weenies mean well but wait until this warming solar cycle ends. You will be praying for warming. I'll never forget you whackos wanting Joe Ussibelli to donate coal powder to the government to drop on the North Pole ice to melt it to cool the planet. Whack jobs.... the arrogance of man to think he/she can control the climate is laughable. Enjoy paying the bill at the pump for your sage manipulation of the weather. JERKS. I BURN NAT GAS.

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    #24

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Eisenhower. Re: The military–industrial complex "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

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    Matthew Coughlin
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And no one talks about Eisenhower's 99% taxation plan on businesses unless they increased wages, offered more benefits, gave payed time off, etc.

    DC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Eisenhower may have been the best president the US ever had. Sure, he was old and didn't look like Kennedy, but the aftermath of his presidency, and Kennedy's, reveals that there was a time before "Republican = Nuts" was true every time anyone said so. The R's successfully took over the Southern Democrat Electorate by applying a racism show, which eventually lead to racists joining and further influencing the party, and so on and so on, and here they are now - a racist, delusional, anti-scientific bunch of morons who still believe in trickle down economy and not even notice that the oh-so-great President Reagan has directly caused the poverty they inherited from their parents and are now passing over to their children, who had learned how to kill and gut a squirrel before they were potty trained.

    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd like Ike. Of coures, he'd be a radical 'leftie' in today's USA. Alas. :-(

    John Baker
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looking at Ike, I have to wonder what the hell happened to the Republican Party. He wouldn't recognize what it's become - and he certainly wouldn't approve.

    Tamra Stiffler
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think we're all wondering what the hell happened to the Republican party.

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    Kevin Hickey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Today's Republicans would call him a "socialist".

    shodokai
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Perpetual war machine got away under his watch. Toward the end he knew it and knew he did not have enough influence to stop it. He tried to warn us, but we did not listen. Now, it's so entrenched, we will likely kill the host if trying to root it out.

    Cory Tollman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not just the military. It's the size of our government and everything it pumps money into the economy from. Even putting much of a dent into fixing it would take a lot of effort and likely more time that a two term president would have in office.

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    TransAtheistTrumpFan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not many called Ike crazy, he was overwhelmingly popular. He also was very lukewarm about civil rights and desegregation.

    Anthony Jerome Thorn
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was a reason he was "luke-warm". He was dealing with a precarious balancing act with McCarthy and the existing segregation laws. Pushing too far too fast will cause an extreme rejection. That he set up the civil rights seed and that his successor launched the ship, so to speak, speaks volumes about what he understood and knew the easiest approach. Abrupt change is oft-times met with extreme resistant even if it is for the benefit of the nation. It is also the best way to change a person's outlook. A really horrendous example is what has happened to the GOP in just the last 20 years. It is the most extreme change we can track. The other is DC as a whole;e in the last 40. That is much more subtle. For those asking if Ike was listed as crazy by some, the answer is a resounding yes. His farewell speech was dismissed by a majority of the nation at that time as fear-based and not as a warning. My mother remembers it (she was 11 at the time).

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    Riley Quinn
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the hell happened to the Republican Party?

    SelkieBlackfysh
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    War makes money. Helping people doesn't. It's as simple as that to them.

    Mickie Shea
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A Republican who called out tRump way before the debacle that plague the nation for four years and may do so again. Beware America.

    Andy Frobig
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I doubt Eisenhower had any idea who Donny Johnny was--he was only 14 when Ike left office.

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    #25

    Carrie Nation of the Temperance/Prohibition movement She has been ridiculed and lambasted by history as a kooky, prudish anti-alcohol crusader. But she was actually a diligent progressive activist working through a proto-social justice lens. Her beef wasn't with alcohol, but rather with distilleries and suppliers flooding small towns with enormous quantities of cheap, low-quality liquor with the explicit intent of turning emotionally devastated WWI veterans into drunkards for profit. (The knock-on effects of that campaign included rampant domestic violence and poverty.) Gal was working to uplift the most vulnerable people and is only remembered for making a show of smashing bottles.

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    Stephanie A Mutti
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone who publicly tries to uplift the vulnerable will be made a mockery by the powerful; it's not within their agenda to share power.

    Leodavinci
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is known as revisionism. The details in the second paragraph aren't mutually exclusive... and the Temperance Movement was, outside of medical usage, clearly and absolutely anti-alcohol. There's also the unintended consequences of Prohibition... it led to organized crime becoming extraordinarily more powerful and influencial than anyone dreamed of.

    Karen Lyon
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    @Leodavinci: YES. That is an incontrovertible fact. The other problem it created? Everyone from the US POTUS on down became utter scofflaws. Nobody was abiding by Prohibition by the time it was repealed. The damage Prohibition did to American society far outweighs Carrie Nation's original impulse, IMO.

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    Seabeast
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Carrie Nation died in 1911, three years before WW1 even started. So it has nothing to do with veterans.

    Tom De Paul
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Veterans predate WWI. Civil War, Spanish American War . . . .

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    J J
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Criminalizing things just makes matters worse.... Criminalize brooms and suddenly there's people shooting each other over access to brooms

    Shane S
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Alcohol is a carcinogen in the same class as tobacco. It’s a drug and has no health advantages. The “wine a day” thing is even being challenged now. I’m a drinker but even I see that alcohol just has good PR and that’s why we accept it. We really need to rethink our relationship with alcohol.

    B S
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    May I recommend some modern-day substitutions: [Government] flooding [cities in social or economic chaos, particularly inner cities with disparate effect on the Black community ] with enormous quantities of cheap, low-quality [crack] with the explicit intent of turning [people into addicts] for [profit and draconian criminal penalties]. The knock-on effects of that campaign included rampant domestic violence and poverty.

    Francc
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She was against alcohol. Quit making her what she was not.

    Susan Hagloch
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Carry Nation (this is how it is usually spelled) was active in 5he late 1800s, the veterans she would have worried about were those from the Civil War. The Temperance movement began in the 1870s, and culminated in the 18th Amendment, which took effect in 1920, and lasted until it was nullified by the adoption of the 21st Amendment in December of 1933.

    Andy Frobig
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She died six years before the US entered World War II.

    Cydney Golden
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But bear in mind this was a case of one religion based group dictating for the majority. Sound familiar?

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    #26

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along All the people that said the NSA/CIA was spying on us for years. Thanks to edward Snowden we now know that was true and it was so much so that the NSA had built back doors in pretty much every single electronic device that exsists all the way down to the network switch level on cisco switches and the internet backbone through AT&T network hubs. The fact that there wasnt mass revolt after that information was released kinda blew my mind.

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    Got Myself 4 Pandas
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm likely in a minority but I really don't give any f***s if people want to waste time listening into my daily life/phone/emails etc - all they're going to get is me talking c**p with mates, my husband and my kids, meme wars that go on for months at a time, the insane number of cake decorating videos I watch and my true crime obsession. I don't see some government employed person bored oot their tits seeing the drivel people talk as an invasion of privacy - and if snooping on folks interactions prevents some big disaster like the twin towers then I think it's worth it. And I kinda like the fact I'll mention wanting a new mattress and then getting every ad directed towards mattresses, it reminds me to look for them when I'd likely otherwise forget as my brain is like Swiss cheese

    Dadolwch
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn't that kind of the same argument about not voting because the issues "don't affect you"? Just because you don't see or feel the effects of this stuff immediately doesn't mean you're unaffected. The best type of control is the kind you don't even realize is happening.

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    Wilko Lunenburg
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the Netherlands there is a saying "I have nothing to hide, but they don't have to know that"

    censorshipsucks
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OK so to explain this to the people who say "it doesnt matter i have nothing to hide", imagine now if the Roe V Wade issue overturned becomes federal law despite the democratic white house. Now your period tracking app on your phone can be used as a backdoor to monitor your period. Now suppose you miss three periods and you are under 40 years of age. Suppose then the period returns. The state can then contact you and ask you if you had an abortion. And if you did, they can arrest you. Now consider other cases, like BLM activists, BDS activists, Social Democracy activists, LGTBQ+ activists in florida. All these people will become 'marked' and might end up on 'no fly lists' or arrested. You guys are well heading towards a fascist oligarchic dystopia, yet you accuse Putin of running precisely that same thing. Forget 2nd amendment, that's not the issue, the government WANTS an armed population so they have lots of soldiers they can post to the middle east to kill more random muslims 4 oil.

    maswartz
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean, this was obvious to anyone who was paying attention when the Patriot Act was signed. Hell even before that it was a "joke" that the FBI had phones tapped.

    v
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "The fact that there wasnt mass revolt after that information was released kinda blew my mind." Because they never let up on calling him a traitor and that distracted everybody from the truth of what he exposed. Just like back in 2001-2002 when they pushed the PATRIOT act through with 87% of Congress supporting it because they distracted everybody with fear mongering.

    David Stowe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was no revolt because there was no surprise. We've known about it since at least the mid-late 90's

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    Felice Coles
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The NSA/CIA don't have enough to do either. All these gummint spies being paid to watch people play Wordle....

    Drex Holt
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How else would we be able to carry the world around in our pockets for $60 a month? Because they want you to

    Quinn
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And now that he defected, the GRU is doing the same.

    Peter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think if you were Jewish living in Germany a few decades ago you might not be quite so comfortable that the state knew all about you on the basis that you were law abiding.

    David Stowe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We knew about that wayyyyyy before Snowden. Hell, they made a movie about it. Enemy of the State with Will Smith and Gene Hackman in 1998. He just eliminated the plausible deniability.

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    #27

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Boltzman spend his life trying to prove his formula but ended up commiting suicide because none of his collegues believed him. Now, his formula is basically the 'amen' in thermodynamics.

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    Felice Coles
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did his colleagues take credit for it?

    Chich
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think so, which is sUrprising as Edison was alive then. :P

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    Mosheh Wolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again with these made up stories and outright lies. Boltzmann actually had Bipolar disorder, and committed suicide because of his mental health issues. He was well respected his entire life. He was honored, and had job offers throughout his career. He had public lectures in the biggest lecture halls which were crammed so that there was standing room only. The Emperor of the Austro-Hungarian Empire invited him to give a private lecture. Does that sound like somebody that "everybody thought was crazy"?

    Marnie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This needs more context. What formula?

    Héctor Salas Olave
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He basically reformulated thermodynamics starting from the idea that everything is made out of atoms, in this context the temperature of something is a measure of the kinetic energy of the atoms (i.e. how much the individual atoms are moving and vibrating). The atomic theory wasn't accepted at the time and he was ridiculed for believing in them. It was about ten years after his death (IIRC) that the idea of atoms started to get accepted, In part due to Einstein's paper on Brownian motion. Boltzman formula is: S = k_B ln( Ω ) Where: S is the entropy -> sometimes explained as a measure of how disordered a system is. k_B is the Boltzmann constant -> a number. Ω number of configurations of the system -> number of ways to order the atoms. ln () -> the natural logarithm. Hope that some of what I wrote is understandable

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    Sue Sanders
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well - if I were a young woman during his era, I'd like a shot at turning his thermodynamics on.

    Ged Maybury
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh man! These stories are breaking my soul.

    Sandy Kavanaugh
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I could use a bit more information on this guy: first name, name and purpose of formula, time frame, please.

    Bonnie Lauria
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Stefan–Boltzmann law describes the power radiated from a black body in terms of its temperature. Specifically, the Stefan–Boltzmann law states that the total energy radiated per unit surface area of a black body across all wavelengths per unit time {\displaystyle j^{\star }} j^{\star} (also known as the black-body radiant emittance) is directly proportional to the fourth power of the black body's thermodynamic temperature T: {\displaystyle j^{\star }=\sigma T^{4}.} j^{\star} = \sigma T^{4}.

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    #28

    Morgan Robertson. In 1898 he published a story about a ship named the Titan, a fictional ship, that sinks after hitting an iceberg. Allegedly (and I can’t find any proof of this) it was initially dismissed for being too outlandish. 14 years later, the Titanic sinks in an eerily similar fashion. Robertson dismissed all claims of being psychic, and was just familiar with ships of the time and their flaws.

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    Ashley Harrold
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its even creepier. The ship sank in the story on its maiden voyage along with a few other creepy similarities

    Jo Davies
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The figures mentioned in the story are scary. Very close to the number of people on the shop, no of lifeboats, number of deaths, a whole lot of similarities

    Anne Reid
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At the time, there were no requirements for the number of lifeboats…I’d think quite a few people didn’t like that.

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    Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sank on it's maiden voyage in the North Atlantic with massive loss of life due to a lack of sufficient lifeboats. Both ships were triple screwed and very similar in length and displacement.

    Paweł Duda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, if you were an undercover time traveller and wanted to save those people, it would be quite the best way at the time to just write a book about it, and count on some people actually get scared.

    Roxy Eastland
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Having read 'Futility'*, the title of the book, it became clear to me that he just could see the writing on the wall. Eventually it was inevitable that one of these liners, which were getting bigger and bigger by the year, was going to sink with a huge loss of life, and the most likely thing out at sea to cause this to happen was an ice berg. I think this is true of many books where afterwards we're told the author 'must be psychic'. They were just paying attention and had thought things through to their conclusion. Doesn't explain how Neil Stephenson predicted iPads in The Diamond Age though. * please be aware that this book (Futility *not* The Diamond Age!) has at least two instances of casual anti-semitism. It's really shocking to the modern eye and instructive as to what the mainstream saw as normal back then. I find it unacceptable that this isn't mentioned when the book comes up.

    Earl Grey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew you were going to say that. 😁

    Dough Puddle
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds similar to "The China Syndrome" and what happened at TMI

    Mosheh Wolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who thought that he was crazy?

    Mickie Shea
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Robertson's book entitled "Futility" 1898.

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    #29

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along I don't know that guy's name but he basically from 1541-1542 travelled accross south america. The first european to do so. While he was on his journey he said he saw millions of people and large cities , with a lot of life in them , where today is the amazon rainforest.After he had finished his journey he had told the stories of those cities and about a hundred years later when explorers visited the place there was nothing , no cities , no people , just jungle. So they thought he had made all that up. But modern technology has shown that there might have accually been a lot of cities there , and that those people died out with smallpox and all cities were covered by the jungle within the course of 50 years. So basically people thought he was crazy and made everything up but in modern times its proven that he was right all along.

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    Julie Bruton
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The explorer was Francisco de Orellana. The YouTube link for the BBC documentary, Unnatural Histories, is https://youtu.be/ihvySe6yROE

    DDmaybeandor
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they died from smallpox they probably got it from him.

    Robyn Bowns
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know it's a correlation/causation debate, but.... The idea that he went through these cities that disappeared kinda suggests he spread deadly disease to the peoples....

    shodokai
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sounds like an episode of Drunk History

    Lynne Monteith
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This guy probably brought Small Pox with him and was the reason for the demise of millions of people.

    Terry McCoy
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is detailed in the book "1491", by Charles C. Mann

    Kathryn Baylis
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And he was probably the one who brought that smallpox infection to the indigenous people in the first place, and passed it along every time he made a stop.

    Mosheh Wolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Man, he's not even trying now. He doesn't even know the guy's name and he's so f*****g lazy that he doesn't spend 5 minutes on Google, and so shameless that he admits it. What a clown.

    Nubis Knight
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But... was he the one bringing smallpox? O.o

    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    he probably found ruins, is what I was told,

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    #30

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Dr. Atkins. When his first book 'The New Diet Revolution' came out, he was mocked and ridiculed for thinking that refined sugars, flour, and starch caused the glycemic index to skyrocket which led to your body storing fat. When he died people thought he died from his own diet. Keto-acidosis and how you can lose weight by reducing your glycemic index was largely his research. It was later stolen and copied and called 'The Zone Diet' and 'The Caveman Diet' and 'The Paleo Diet' which were all based on his work.

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    troufaki13
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exclusive diets are bad, unless there's a medical reason.

    Tim
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think people misunderstood The Atkins Diet, or more accurately, misinterpreted it as "I can eat 7 pounds of bacon per day as long as I don't eat sugar or bread". Thing is, they would lose weight, so they were pleased. They didn't care that they were creating other health problems.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'll catch hell for this but: Atkins is not a great diet. Paleo/keto/whatever you call it, if you get rid of carbs, you *will* get trouble, and ketoacidosis is *not* good for you. Please don't dismiss whole grains and fruit/veg b/c of Atkins. Also, if your glycemic index plummets, it's also bad. But what do I know?....

    Jessica Bertram
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you won't catch hell from me. I'll upvote you into next Tusday if i could. Scientists and researchers (who are *also* scientists) have published studies on a) longterm effects of ketosis into ketoacidosis (not great for kidneys, liver, and brain), and, b) side-by-side comparisons on maintainability (not yo-yoing after) and study after study puts paleo, Atkins, and similar at the middle-bottom of the pack. winner? mediterranean every time.

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    Pipe Kasuko
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everything (almost everything) in moderation with a healthy dose of exercise is likely the best approach. We must also recognize the fact that there are variances, and sometimes to the extremes, due to genetic coding, environment - nurturing, economic conditions, etc. Being on the heavier/lighter side of the scale is not necessarily a bad thing. As long as you can perform your daily activities without a struggle, you should be fine, apart from any medical issues that would/could cause complications.

    Chich
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Diets. saw a good joke once about cavemen saying they were going on a 20th century diet because those people live beyond 30 :)

    April Pickett
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know it and am amused that no one today seems to acknowledge his efforts and genius in his diet plans. Keto is just an extension of Dr. Atkins, except you have to count macros and other things. Dr. Atkins suggested additional vitamins and supplements to help you start and maintain ketosis. When he died and his wife sold his diet, it was buried for years before Keto came out. His diet works. It did when I first did it and it does now.

    Lorrie Rothstein
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought he died because he fell on his head

    rumade
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like the inventor of the Segway, who drove one off a cliff...

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    Caro Caro
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have his books (only 2) and he's right! I have lost weight and have never felt better. Now we also have the "keto diet" which is just a copy of what he has been saying all along. Some have said that it's just eating fats and butter and meat and that is total bs. I've never eaten so much salads and veggies :D

    Yoinks!
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People (often deliberately) misconstrue the Atkins Diet as "no-carb" rather than "low-carb." There are plenty of carbs in the Atkins Diet; they're simply carbs that have the best nutritional cost/benefit ratio. More carbs from less-sugary fruits and vegetables; fewer carbs from Doritos, Kool-Aid and Wonder Bread. The typical American diet is a daily overdose of carbs, and the results speak for themselves.

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    Kelley Eidem
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Atkins, who I once interviewed in his office, died a few days after after slipping on an icy sidewalk and fracturing his skull. He was given steroids that resulted in him rapidly adding fluid weight. His weight was 210, but the coroner violated the law and revealed that his weight was 242 pounds to the public.

    Charles Offer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The author makes the common mistake of confusing "ketoacidosis," which is a serious complication of diabetes, and "ketosis," which is the process which occurs when the body does not have enough carbohydrates to use for fuel, and turns to burning stored fat to create ketones, which are used for fuel. The confusion between these two terms caused many people to disparage the Atkins diet.

    AmAndA_Panda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Starvation ketoacidosis due to prolonged ketosis is a thing though. It's actually a common mistake to think the 2 aren't and can't be related. Ketones are made in diabetics when there's not enough insulin to use the glucose for energy so it has to break down fat.. Ketones are created in people using the keto diet because there aren't enough carbs or sugar to use for energy so it has to break down fat. The body is still producing ketones, just for 2 different reasons. Both lead to ketoacidosis. Both are dangerous.

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    #31

    Jose Canseco named several MLB players who were doping and talked about how prevalent it was and nobody wanted to believe him because he himself was taking steroid. Quintessential case of you’re an asshole but you’re not wrong.

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    Felice Coles
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The NFL and MLB and every other nationally governed sport (not to mention the Olympics!) don't WANT fans to know about doping. Ruins the cash flow if spectators know that everyone's sloshing in chemicals and that only the richest and sneakiest win.

    T.
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We should introduce a second Olympics with doped sports just to see what's possible.

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    iseefractals
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is he an a*****e in that scenario? The majority of pro athletes are doping, and have been since people first realized they could get paid, and stupid amounts of money at that, to play children's games. When everyone around you is on PEDs, the only way to compete on a level playing field is to also be on PEDs.

    Dre Mosley
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty much any competitive sport has PED users these days. I know in pro bodybuilding, it's kind of a don't ask to don't tell sort of thing. They don't even test for them unless it's a "Natural Bodybuilding" contest.

    Tiny Dancer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, that's like saying no one wants to believe someone warning about rapists if you're a rapist yourself! This one's not the same as the others.

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    #32

    Gary Webb: Webb wrote a series of articles for the San Jose Mercury called “Dark Alliance.” In his report, Webb wrote that the Reagan CIA was responsible for bringing crack cocaine to the United States in the 1980s. He lost his job, and couldn't find another. I guess being a Pulitzer Award winner does not count for much.

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    sofacushionfort
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To Nixon and his allies it sure seemed great: Latin American governments would earn drug money to suppress dissent and revolt, a crisis of drugs on the streets would enable laws targeting minorities and hippies, and the only victims would be people on the margins of US society. Thanks Nixon.

    InfectedVoice
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You forgot the bit where he was found dead in his house in 2004, with 2 gunshot wounds to the head which was ruled as suicide.

    BasedWang12
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and then flooded "bad" low income neighborhoods with it. Nothin like a double whammy huh

    Karen Lyon
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another typo: the name of.the newspaper was (and is) the San Jose Mercury News. Another thing: although Webb has been proven to have been right in a certain sense, the flip side of that is he really didn't do his due diligence as a journalist. According to a now retired Mercury News journalist who knew him well and was his editor for a time, Webb would ignore facts that didn't fit his ideas. The Merc backed off on his story because of that weakness and the damage it would do to its excellent reputation at the time. (Webb's not the only Pulitzer Winner from that paper over the years.) Not because it had a deal with the CIA. https://www.mercurynews.com/2013/02/10/herhold-thinking-back-on-journalist-gary-webb-and-the-cia/

    Elder
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Pulitzer Prize actually does not count for anything. Here's just a few examples of them being literally wrong. https://unherd.com/thepost/the-new-york-timess-worst-pulitzer-prize-winners/

    shodokai
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Drugs = Black Budget Money Source.

    Felice Coles
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope, not when there are celebrities to run after...

    #33

    Al Gore's "inconvenient truth" will someday be looked back on as a prophet shouting into the wind. Climate change 2050 - 2100 is going to cause mass migration, mass migration will cause wars, southern Europe will be swamped with North African's and their religion. Many desert areas that hold a marginal population will become as desolate as the Australian outback.

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    Leoninus Fate
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sadly we could fix it/ prevent it a lot longer, and we have all proven we can, yet we also prove we refuse to do it unless it means death, When covid was raging hard, the climate cleared, pollution and smog were gone for a while, the earth was actually better then it had been in years..... but only for a few days/weeks, because the second we could go back to our old ways...... we did and f**ked it up again

    J. Normal
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We might try, but until the corporations admit they are the main problem, nothing can be done. Like draining the ocean with a thimble.

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    Nizumi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Downvoted for the racist tone unnecessarily added to the post. I'm being a Karen on this one. Yes climate change will cause mass migration. Yes mass migration will cause conflicts of all kinds. No need to start with pointing at one single area and one single religion. We're all losing, regardless how we pray.

    rumade
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We knew about it before then too. Growing up as a child in the 1990s I had many books on environmental issues that mentioned global warming (now called climate change because some parts of the world may not warm but be more susceptible to extreme weather). When I was a teenager people at school mocked me for caring about it. I felt like I was going mad.

    Rainy Day Wolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a movie called The Age of Stupid about how we could've done something but didn't... this is the age of stupid... we've known about this since the 70's, we've had 50 years and gone from bad to worse

    James Kistler
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The fact the he personally accounted for more greenhouse gasses daily than the small town where I lived in TN at the time, made him a hypocrite. My entire town would need to stop producing any greenhouse gas daily just to offset his lifestyle....yet we are the problem.

    APL
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not either/or. You ARE the problem, as is he.

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    Kelley Eidem
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gore uses climate fear porn to sell carbon credits. He has made himself a very rich man in this way. Meanwhile, his home in KY uses 37 times as much electricity as the average home. He also travels in private jets.

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    #34

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Mitt Romney and his comment about Russia. I voted against him, but I’ll be damned if he wasn’t right about Russia.

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    Jerry Mathers
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just a taking a moment for perspective here- How crazy is it that the US has fallen so far that Mitt Romney looks like the rational Republican? If you let that soak in, I think you'll see just how bad things are right now.

    shodokai
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mormons wear magic underwear. This alone should bar them from holding public office.

    MellonCollie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What did he say about Russia? Genuine question.

    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In debate vs Barack Obama in 2012, Romney said essentially that we had to guard ourselves against enemies, such as Russia, and Obama said, "Dude, Cold War's over". Romney was *not* disbelieved, so this is kinda outta place. He wasn't considered "crazy". He just didn't win the election.

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    Chewie Baron
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His comments about London hosting the 2012 Summer Games two days before they opened weren’t exactly well thought out.

    James016
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What did he say about it. Looking back at the 2012 Games shows how far the UK has fallen.

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    Quinn
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was saying what people of the former East Bloc have known all along and nobody listened to them either.

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    #35

    "I John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with Blood." I mean yeah he kind of nailed it. He said this at his hanging, less than 2 years before the outbreak of the American Civil War.

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    Amigo Super
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    John Brown's revolt is believed to have split the parties on the slavery issue, and contributed to election of Lincoln. He was calling his own shots, in a loose sense.

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    #36

    Actress Jean Seeberg wasn’t paranoid. The FBI [were out to get her]

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    Nenes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    what's with the FBI following actors and actresses?

    Steve Kenney
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jean Seberg had made several financial contributions to the Black Panthers among other organizations that FBI deemed subversive. They used counter intelligence to harass and defame her, they would break into her home and search for damaging information.

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    Felice Coles
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The FBI obviously doesn't have enough to do. Was it a way to get a free peep show?

    #37

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Henry A Wallace was Roosevelt's running mate and vice president in his 3rd term in office but was dropped from the ticket in the 4th in favor of Truman. Wallace was correct on a lot of issues manifesting in America that are still here today, race, education, and what happens to society unfer unregulated capitalism. In many ways Wallace's story mirrors the story of every single progressive the democratic party has tried to run in the 20th century. Rhetoric is fine but don't go after corporate greed. Truman and Wallace could not have been more different. If Wallace had stayed as running mate and vp at the time of FDR's death, its possible to imagine we would be living in a totally different world.

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    K R
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the murdered Kennedys were allowed to live we'd be in a different world too

    FluffButt Central
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My father was a staunch republican but he loved Bobby Kennedy. He said the day he was assassinated was one of the saddest in US history

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    Wintermute
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The tactic the DNC perfected to keep Henry Wallace out of office was the same one they employed on Bernie Sanders decades later. The DNC is it's own worst enemy.

    Kelley Eidem
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wallace was a leftist in his thinking. Today's extreme left have adopted his p;latform.

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    #38

    George Orwell? Yea he wasn't crazy but people laughed at him when he released his book and not even 30 years later the communist turned at least part of his books into reality.

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    Penny Fan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem is that too many people conflate communism and socialism. They are very different animals.

    Quinn
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But they both evolve into a deadly beast.

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    APL
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're talking about 1984, he wrote it about the totalitarian states that existed at the time in Germany and Russia. This is an ignorant comment.

    Penny Fan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well it didn't exist in Germany by the time he wrote 1984...

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    Synsepalum
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THE communist? Wow, that's power

    Amigo Super
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was aware of propaganda from seeing the different sides reporting on the Spanish Civil War, and said they all lied, every side kept changing their stories to make themselves look better.

    rumade
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here in the UK we're heading back to the level of poverty outlined in his book Down and Out in Paris and London.

    BasedWang12
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And stuff from "1984" is still happening now

    Kelley Eidem
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Today's Democrats are using the same villainous behavior, stealing elections and recently setting up a "Disinformation Governance Board" in the Department of Homeland Security that smells like 1984's "The Ministry of Truth."

    APL
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell me you haven't read 1984 without...

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    Romenriel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He fought by the side of communists in Spanish Civil War and that's where he learned of their practice.

    APL
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He also fought alongside anarchists and he didn't write a book about lawlessness. The book's not about communism, it's about totalitarianism. Orwell himself was a democratic socialist.

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    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along MrBeast infiltrated the YouTube market early. Mastered it. Making millions on millions a decade later at age 23. He bet on new media, looked crazy for a while but in the end won big. I understand to most he’s not a historical figure but as a marketing and digital media expert—he’s a pioneer in my book. He wrote the playbook. Plus there’s a typo in the question haha.

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    Amigo Super
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He made a website account, that's not infiltration in my book

    Elder
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He understood the value of the platform at a time when people thought it was just a place to post funny videos. Meanwhile, you're on BP trying to sound intelligent by devaluing someone else's extraordinary level of success. You did a good job of making a website account though.

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    Marykay Klim
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think Mr. Beast is great. He and his crazy friends have made lots of money, but also donated homes, food, cars, ,to strangers.

    Tiny Dancer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On the surface, he seems like any other young guy making millions on social media. But, I know he's donated literally hundreds and thousands of dollars to homeless shelters and hospitals and such, so I don't envy him. Not sure he was ever called crazy, though.

    NotMe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Huh, what did he do exactly...?

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    #40

    Harry Markopolos outed Bernie Madoff for almost a decade before the whole scam imploded.

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    Felice Coles
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What did Harry do after that? Bernie's wife ensconced herself in her Florida home with all that stolen cash.

    Karen Lyon
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    @Felice Coles: No, she didn't. The government has worked really hard at recovering it: over 80% has been returned to the people who are the rightful owners. What his widow lives off of, I don't know, but it's not the proceeds from his scam. The DOJ has been working with Madoff's former banks on that for awhile. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/more-money-way-bernard-madoff-victims-total-payouts-top-18-billion-2021-09-16/#:~:text=The%20latest%20distribution%20boosts%20their,of%20the%20former%20Bernard%20L.

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    Justme
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who? And what? This entry is useless without some context. No idea who these people are or what scandal you’re talking about.

    Z Alexi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Justme~~There's this great invention called books. Taste one. Harry Markopolos was on "60 Minutes," on tons of network news shows [except Fox Noise], in Newsweek & Time, Google & Yahoo! news thousands of times. Harry was interviewed by int'l media too: "Here [Madoff] was a man who wiped out thousands of families,” he told the Guardian in 2010~~12 yrs ago [& earlier]. His brother, Ptr Madoff, did 10 yrs behind bars. Stealing $64.8 billion would make anyone's news...Harry helped expose him. D'ya just play Xbox & watch cartoons?

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    #41

    Every conspiracy theorist that believed in MKUltra before US released it was all real.

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    BasedWang12
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MKUltra - Stargate Project - Project Sunstreak - Operation Grill Flame.... All super interesting

    rumade
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the people that MKUltra messed with grew up to be the Unibomber. He had his beliefs probed and destroyed by the programme.

    chuck.dont.surf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Meh....that isn't proven. He was subjected to psychological experiments at Harvard, but that wasn't necessarily associated with MKUltra.

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    iseefractals
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad was one of those test subjects in 1971, in response to his THREATENING to speak up about the heroin smuggling that the US army was complicit in during Vietnam war. He ended up being pursued by MP's, thrown out of a third story window, and shot twice on the ground despite having a broken back and two collapsed lungs.

    Dee Lee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am sorry to hear about your father! Too many people don't believe that the good ol' US of A would do this to a citizen - until it happens to them personally.

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    #42

    30 “Crazy” People Who Were Proven To Be Right All Along Lord Kitchener (Horacio Herbert Kitchener) Secretary State of War for the British Army. At the onset of WW1, everyone thought the war would end very quickly, either going one way or the other. Kitchener was one of the few people to envision a long war, and to prepare accordingly, even though the British government actively hampered many of his efforts (even though he was a war hero)

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    Martin Kaine
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When the first reports of casualties came to Allied generals during the first battles, those generals did not believe the large numbers of dead and dying. They sent more and more troops in, believing that all their study of Napoleonic tactics worked with men using machine guns. Afterwards, they dug in, and you could walk from the English Channel to Switzerland in those trenches without coming above ground.

    Powerful Katrinka
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's shocking to learn that most of the allied military experts never went even close to the front.

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    Indosidius
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This same man started concentration camps during the Anglo Boer war in South Africa (1899-1902), while also implementing the scorched earth campaign. Due to his cruelty, over 50 000 women and children died under horrible conditions due to starvation, illness and freezing to death. His tactics worked, as the militia armies of the Zuid Afrikanse Republiek, and the Oranje Vrystaat Republiek had to surrender, due to lack of food and preventing more women and children dying. He was hailed a hero by the Brittish, but to this day is Villified by the Afrikaner Nation. What makes it worse, only records was kept of white women and children dying, no records were kept of non-white men, women and children that died. So the amount of 50 000 deaths is actually much higher.

    Victor Botha
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was a brutal imperialist bastard of the highest degree. Mass Murderer

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    shodokai
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never understood glorifying mass murderers...

    Indosidius
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kill a hundred, you are a murderer. Kill a million, you are a conquerer. Go figure.

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    #43

    General Patton , we should of kept heading to Russia after WW2.

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    John Dwyer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "should OF"? Do you mean should have, or should've?

    shodokai
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you for the grammar correction, my heart needed it.

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    Steve Kenney
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Patton was his own worst enemy.

    Jean Thompson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Winston Churchill said the same thing.

    #44

    After the fall of the Soviet union we started seeing old KGB files. Turns out Joe McCarthy was right. There were in fact soviet infiltrators throughout the government and America writ large.

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    Mtownmick
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But were they the ones he vilified?

    DC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. He accused everybody and their Grandma, and her Grandma, and that Grandma's Grandma, if he just didn't like someone of saw a chance of someone being a rival to him. He was just an egoistic drunkard who accidentally got his hands on too much power and raged around, using and thereby wasting public ressources, staff and infrastructure, for years and years, until finally just kind of everybody got ged up with him and his made-up Commie-Hunting-Circus. He was NOT right about anything by any other reason than a simple, plain coincidence. Also, the freedom to think whatever one considers right, is largely trampled on by him and his alikes.

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    Steve Kenney
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Joe McCarthy ruined the lives of a lot of people who weren't involved in anything. The ends don't justify the means.

    sofacushionfort
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The FBI found some actual spies. HUAC and McCarthy’s committee in the Senate were just grandstanding against leftist intellectuals, entertainers and academics, not coincidentally with many Jews among each.

    James Tomlinson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Joe McCarthy was reading the Corona intercepts, all the communications between the USSR and the spies. He knew who the spies were. He had to have other people "out" the spies so that the Soviets were kept in the dark how we knew. This was the reason for the methods. Not agreeing with the methods but this was the reasoning behind it. HUAC was a different time period (1940's) than McCarthy (1950's).

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    Dave Hinckley
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they're still here. Mike Flynn, Tucker Carlson, President #45...

    Patrick Wilson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    McCarthy was a paranoid. He was the Trump of his day. Everyone who didn't believe in exactly what he did was a Communist, like today with Trump they're all fake news.

    CD Mills
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whereas now we have republicans flying to russia on the Fourth of July...

    APL
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And were they high-profile actors, or was Joe McCarthy a paranoid nutter who used "reds under the bed" accusations to ruin anyone who opposed his politics. Yeah, thought so.

    J. Normal
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Were.. not actually past tense.

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