You’re free to live your life as you please, so long as you’re not harming anyone. I stand by that statement because I believe that autonomy, the freedom of choice, and the ability to decide for ourselves what’s truly best for us are what separates civilization from chaos. The grown-up thing to do is to respect each other’s rational choices, even if we might do things differently ourselves. So, for instance (and full disclosure): I come from a large family and I want to have a large family of my own, however, I know that having children isn’t the right choice for everyone. I’m fine with that. Some others? Not so much.
There are far more people choosing not to have kids in this day and age than you’d think. One of the main places online where they discuss topics related to their childfree lifestyle is the r/childfree subreddit, a huge community of over 1.4 million members. We’ve collected some of the best jokes and memes shared on the subreddit that might amuse you, Pandas. You’ll find them if you scroll down.
Keep in mind that there are a wide variety of issues that r/childfree touches upon in its day-to-day posts. They’ve collected the most important aspects about living childfree into a massive FAQ, curated for over a decade, which you can find right here. It’s a lengthy but in-depth read. Meanwhile, you’ll find Bored Panda’s previous article about the ‘Childfree’ community on Reddit right over here.
I reached out to the r/childfree moderator team and one of its members, redditor u/Raveynfyre, was kind enough to answer my questions about running the community that existed even earlier than Reddit was formed. As it turns out, moderating r/childfree is a far tougher job than you might imagine. The subreddit is beset by trolls daily and the moderators have to remove quite a few comments from public view due to the sensitive nature of the topics discussed there. Read on for Bored Panda's interview with u/Raveynfyre.
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Family Is What You Make
This needs to stay on top! Stop forcing an issue to have kids, some people are just not meant to have and yet they do
And some don't even wanna or some are clearly gonna turn out to be bad at parenting
Load More Replies...The funny thing is that society calls the people who don't want to have kids "selfish" and pressuring/forcing someone into doing something they don't want to isn't? 🤔
Yep. I never had kids (by choice) and I can't tell you how many times I've been called selfish. Even by my own family.
Load More Replies...Exactly. Same with marriage. An unmarried commited couple are as much a family as a married one.
I call my girlfriend's boyfriend her husband....they have been living together of years now so it sounds stupid to say boyfriend.
Load More Replies...“Start a family” they say like you’re not already part of one? What are my parents and brother, scotch mist?
Here in the city I live in (in the US) when a married couple is homeless, they are placed in separate shelters, after which they are placed in two separate apartments. Married couples with a child are given a home or placed in one apartment. They don't see childless couples as a family.
There was a billboard of a politician advertising for "Traditional family": man+woman+2 kids. Which means that my mum and I are not family. Never mind the fact that he has like 11 kids by 8 women. Kollár is a hypocritical asswipe.
And there is absolutely nothing traditional about only two children
Load More Replies...if poverty weren't an issue three weirdly close roommates would be me and my friends
Load More Replies...In human society, family (from Latin: familia) is a group of people related either by consanguinity (by recognized birth) or affinity (by marriage or other relationship). this is from wikipedia.
Heck, I consider my instructors and masters at my Taekwondo academy family. Family isn’t necessarily biological.
Bored Panda was interested in finding out how the moderators manage such a large community. The membership count alone is staggering. According to u/Raveynfyre, Reddit provides some very fine tools to moderators to help them get their job done. Without them, they said, the mods would have a nightmarish time keeping up with the comments that need to be removed. The members of the community help identify these problematic comments, too.
"Comments get identified for removal by user reports, so I have to give our community a shout-out as well. For many reasons they are why we're here," u/Raveynfyre told Bored Panda. "I'd say that daily we get upwards of 20-30 reports which tell us to go review a comment because it might be against the rules. Our community is great at reporting trolls and disrespectful parents to us with the 'Report' function in Reddit."
The mod stressed the fact that the r/childfree mods don't actually delete anyone's comments or content: they hide them from public view. This way, anyone on the subreddit's mod team, as well as any of the administrators working for Reddit can review the content and make a final verdict about whether it stays or goes.
"If I had to give a percentage, I'd say half of them remain removed," the mod said, adding that comments can also get removed by the report system if there's a sizeable volume of reports on them. In short, the system is very efficient at weeding out hate and vitriol.
Child Fees Should Be A Thing And Dogs Should Be Free
Landlords don't really need to charge pet fees. I think the landlords who do don't really like pets but are trying to be ethical. I just learned in Ontario it's illegal to charge a pet fee. And for children, well it doesn't matter the age of the person. Anyone can be a slob and destroy a property. That's what he damage fee is for. Charge extra if more negligence caused damage. There are some very responsible and careful parents out there that don't allow their kids to do any damage.
I have cats and children. My cats have never caused any damage to any apartment I've lived in. The worst they did was pull off already peeling contact paper which I easily removed and painted. My kids, however, immediately messed up the wallpaper of the last apartment we moved into. But every time we move, "but cats scratch things!" Yeah, most likely my couch!
Poor neighbours! I once lived next to family with two children. Bunch of baboons would be quieter.
IT would technically be a Congress of Baboons ... which I have thought a bit redundant. LOL
Load More Replies...Word. We pay $50 a month for our mild-mannered, well behaved little kitty.
I mean I get it. However a human being shouldn't be treated like this. Neither should animals for that matter. I get some people see kids as a nuisance and would agree with this. But think about how this not only looks but makes people feel. Kid's belong in this world just as much as adults do. We've got to stop seeing kid's as a burden and see them as valuable. And not in the gaining money way. All humans are valuable, more so than money. Nobody should be charged a fee to exist and live. Not human beings not animals not anyone. People are just trying to exist and someone is always coming up with another way to make money or gain somehow off of humans and it's just gotten out of hand, honestly. I know some might not agree but I definitely think we all could just be doing better as far as humanity goes and how we treat people and operate.
IDK that it's a "noise fee" as opposed to a damages fee. Kids don't normally pee on the rug or scratch wood floors just by walking on them or chew through doors and walls. Having said that, the extra "pet fees" should be reimbursed if there's been no property damage.
Saw This And Thought Of You Guys
You would not let a 16 year old adopt a child, but hey, get pregnant and you are on your own
Honestly the sad thing is they really, truly believe they are saving innocent babies from being murdered. This is why we need more science/social education in schools. If anti-abortion folks really give a s**t about “unborn babies” maybe try giving a single s**t about what happens to “unwanted babies” after they’re born cause that’s the world they’re creating with these stupid abortion bans. Like it’s exhausting 🙄 it’s 2022 ffs not 1949
Load More Replies...#freedomofchoice......and yet women are pressurized into doing things they don't want
@Ryan - I get why people who view it as murder are so adamant about their perspective. Others see it as not a person yet so it is not murder. They're not pro-murder. There would be legions of specific future individuals that would've existed but for the use of condoms stopping the egg-sperm connections that otherwise would have occured. Many don't see the difference in stopping the progression toward the future sentient people after cells have begun to organize, especially early in the process. Of course, if it's part of a person's religion that defines a person with a soul as existing from the moment the egg and sperm combine, that's understandable that it is seen by that person as murder. But there are many different religions and not everyone is religious. For civilization to make it, we have to be able to live with each other. I doubt anyone, even the victors, would enjoy what became of the world even if one religion were to win a war and impose their religion on everyone.
Load More Replies...Any doctor will tell you that you shouldn't get a vasectomy expecting it to be reversed. Only 53% of vasectomy reversals were successful in allowing a pregnancy.
I have a solution for this. I keep my zipper up. Haven't made a baby yet.
that's what smart guys do... other enjoy/suffer parenthood :P
Load More Replies...I get the sarcastic wit at the heart of the post, but vasectomy reversal surgery is more complicated than the initial vasectomy. And people often don’t know when they want to have children. A male pill or long lasting contraceptive injection is much more appropriate.
Yeah except men don't even want to do that. "It's not as good, like eating candy with the wrapper on, wah wah wah". Goddamn self-centered babies.
Load More Replies...Judging from the comments, sarcasm is a bit lost on some of these people
Moderator u/Raveynfyre was very blunt about the fact that their team has to deal with trolls on a literal daily basis. "We deal with trolls daily. Just yesterday, I had a terrible one who, within the space of an hour, managed to post 44 trolling comments from various threads. Three of his comments had been reported by the community, so I went to his profile and took a deeper look. I'm glad I did because the problem was worse than the automated system was indicating to us," they opened up about one such instance.
The rules the subreddit has in place aren't just for show. They've been honed and polished to reflect the reality of the situation. "We have Rule 4 in place specifically for things like petty BS arguments that often devolve into name-calling and threats of bodily harm. We also have a rule about 'joking' or otherwise making light of harming a child. We don't discriminate in regards to this rule. We often ban active members of the subreddit, due to them not reading or caring about the community rules until it's too late," the mod explained that nobody gets special treatment if they misbehave.
"Rule 5 is an instant ban offense, no exceptions. We take this rule very, very seriously. This rule helps set us apart from other subreddits and demonstrates through our actions, that we do not want children to be hurt. Anyone who posts here is subject to that rule. We refuse to let this community be ruined by the lowest common denominators."
What Could Be More Important Than Creating Life?
Giving birth is not the only job a woman has and it's totally upto her if she wants to do it or not .
You’re right I do dishes and laundry too!! And I’m not happy about it !! 😂
Load More Replies...And also made it incredibly difficult(and potentially deadly) for humans to give birth. Seems like god didn't think this one through.
Apparently he made it so painful and dangerous to punish Eve. The abrahamic god is a horrible monster (luckily a fictional one)
Load More Replies...Good. My uterus is absolutely useless due to diseases. I guess that I have your gods permission to be childfree?
Where in your Bible does it say Mary gave her consent?
Load More Replies...Just wait to see God's face when they find out that I haven't used my appendix yet.
They now think the appendix is used - the appendix is designed to protect good bacteria in the gut. That way, when the gut is affected by a bout of diarrhea or other illness that cleans out the intestines, the good bacteria in the appendix can repopulate the digestive system and keep you healthy.
Load More Replies...If breeding is such a sacred act, why does everything do it. It's not sacred at all. Cockroaches breed. Whoopty do
Exactly, that’s always been my attitude. I have two children, grown with kids of their own. I adore them, but I have always embraced a women’s right to choose anything to do with her body, to either take advantage of the baby factory equipment or dedicate herself to her career. These are both noble things. But being an old hippy from the 70’s, I gotta say, what inherited nightmare are we leaving these children? A raped planet who needs us gone, same for the animals, better off without us, the planet can heal and wouldn’t miss us a bit. But how will we go? Hit by a big damn rock like the dinosaurs? Use up every resource until we have no food, no unpolluted water, no safe air to breathe? Have a nuke war because a man like Trump pushed the button first and everyone retaliated? End up like a futuristic dystopian movie ruled by evil fascist dictators? Breeding is not a sacred thing. It’s been used by religions for several thousand years to put men in charge & keep women slaves.
Load More Replies...I Don’t Know If This A Repost But I Think It’s Correct!
I think this was published an example of how to respond to invasive questions.
Load More Replies...I'm 34 and i really want to start making people uncomfortable when they ask but i don't want to say something like that cause it would be a lie in my case! Cause they don't seem to understand the "i don't want kids" and keep insisting
Just shout "not everyone who is childless is that way by choice!" turn on your heel and refuse to discuss the matter further. That way you haven't lied, but they will think that you can't, and either stfu or you just keep repeating I can't bear to talk about it until they stop. And possibly, just possibly they may think before saying it to someone who really wants to but can't.
Load More Replies...I couldn't have children bcuz of severe endometriosis. I didn't really advertise that fact. It was hurtful when people kept asking when I'm going to have kids. When I did tell people, they said, well you can adopt, surrogate, foster; as if I HAD to find a different way. Truthfully, I was in a bad marriage and I also have a lot of autoimmune disorders. It would really be difficult to care for a child when I could barely care for myself. I'm really happy to be childless. But for some, that's not acceptable. "Your missing out on so much!"
Don't bring up kids unless the person you would want to ask brings it up. Just don't do it. There's so much more to a person's life - aspirations, hobbies, community enrichment, arts/music, etc.
100% agree. However if you have asked someone if they have kids and they say no - drop the conversation.
Load More Replies...That and when ppl ask, looking at them and saying in a very sad voice, "We haven't been lucky enough to be able to have kids." That puts people in the right mood after that. I'm a teacher and apparently it makes me less of a professionell for not having them. Sort of like a male OBGYN not having a vagina.
Did people say, "why don't you adopt?" I got sick of hearing that.
Load More Replies...That's just blatant insensitive arrogance. I'm sorry for all your losses.
I struggled with fertility for a few years. I ONLY ask newlyweds IF they want kids. I never mention a time limit or anything similar to this, even to make a joke. I HATED it when complete strangers seemed to think my procreation seemed to be small talk
OMG THIS and it never stops. We have one son and he is 10 and just such an awesome kid. STRANGERS will ask us when we are having another. Dude you don't know me. Sometimes I reply with "our son is our second child, we had a daughter that died" that normally shuts them up pretty f*****g fast. DO NOT assume you know us and what we have gone through. My friend has four daughters and people will ask her if she is gonna try for a son. O_O
How Is This Still A Thing, Anyway?
Sadly this one comes up a lot. There was an article in the UK press a few years ago about a young lady who wanted her tubes tied with the full support of her boyfriend. All the doctors said that he should have a vasectomy instead. She got the whole "you may change your mind" spiel. Someone who wants their tubes tied is not going to change their mind about having children.
I also found it strange when I went to get a vasectomy (in the UK, 20 years back) the Dr sensibly ran through the ‘can’t guarantee if you changed you mind that it could be reversed’ and ‘are you sure’ aspect which is fair enough. But then gave me a form that my wife had to sign to say she understood the implications. In any instance if one of the two people involved (or a single person) don’t want kids it’s irrelevant if any third party might want kids…unless both want them they shouldn’t be created!
Load More Replies...I got an old gynecologist (a woman!) asking ne if I wanted children and when i said no she yelled at me "what about your husband!?". Asshole, she also was one of the monsters telling me that all my pain was in my head and not due to the diseases I have.
I really believe that gynecologists need to have some empathy seminars!! Being a good doctor doesn't mean knowing everything on your field! If you lack empathy you are useless! You are not capable to be a doctor you should change profession!!
Load More Replies...My doctor actually told me when I asked for a hysterectomy that I might get divorced and my next husband might want kids. When my husband (sitting next to me) started laughing, she switched tack to the whole having a kid may cure your treatment resistant depression. I was flabbergasted at her gall. When my husband went in to get his tubes tied prior to my surgery (one year wait) she pulled out the whole you might want to get divorced thing again.
WHAT?! Having a kid can cure treatment resistant depression? I've honestly never heard that one. My depression has resisted absolutely everything... but I'm 1000% sure a kid would make it worse.
Load More Replies...After my 2nd kid, I asked to have my tubes tied. Quick disclaimer from the doc asking if I was absolutely sure, divorces happen and what if my next husband wanted children, God forbid something were to happen to one of my existing kids, etc. I assured her none of that mattered because I knew I NEVER wanted to be pregnant again. Thankfully, that was enough. She didn't even ask my husband "for permission." The decision was left up to me and me alone.
I hate this. I know men who got a vasectomy as soon as they legally could but as soon as I started asking about having something done it was always "But what if you change your mind? What if you meet someone you want to have children with? What if they want children?" or my favourite yet "We don't mutilate bodies unless it's to save your life". IT'S MY BODY. Either treat me or refer me to someone who will.
I had that line from a doctor, with the added all women change their mind!!! 20 plus years later, I still haven't changed my mind and the answer is still no.
The moderator, u/Raveynfyre, highlighted the fact that the 'Childfree' community is older than many think. "This community has been around for a very long time, even before Reddit existed. We weren't heard of or focused on previously, but we were around," they said that Reddit has given them a platform for talking about their lifestyle.
I was also interested to learn a bit more about the subreddit's massive FAQ. According to the mod, it's best viewed via desktop because the official Reddit app loads up an old version of the sidebar. "The information in the FAQ has been gathered and curated for well over a decade now," they said. "We add information to it when it's pertinent, and we actively maintain both a domestic and international CF Friendly Doctor lists, all of which have performed at least 1 sterilization on a member of this community."
However, despite the mass of information, not everyone takes the time to read through it and some run into difficulties even finding it. "New members have a difficult time finding our resources due to the redesign Reddit undertook awhile back, as well as the official app linking to old material that has been updated. It's a rare thing for our readers to even read the rules of the sub, much less the various resources."
Just One Simple Trick To Save Money
Change the dollar to micro rubber ducky and use them to pelt on next nosy people
Yes! We're thinking about children as soon as we have enough money. Here's our savings jar, please contribute!
“When are you having kids?” “Idk Karen you tell me….*taps money jar*” ;P
Load More Replies...I would counter with a, "Wow, that's a really personal question, Carol." And just leave it at that while just blinking at her. Make them feel uncomfortable and they'll change the subject and not bring it up again.
How about "And why would that be any of your business?"
Load More Replies...I Have Never Related To A Tweet More. Here’s To A Child Free Halloween!
Valid reply: " You're at the age that a lot of people already have died. Shouldn't you start your preparations? The clock is ticking...."
"you're at the age, that a lot of people have already died. You shouldn't tempt me..."
Load More Replies...And you'll never have to pick him up from the police station for being drunk and disorderly at 3am
You're lucky because you are a man and they start asking about kids at 40. For woman this starts around 25 and we are also concerned about taco costumes for dogs.
That's one very cute puppy. Love the costume and the sombraro (sp is wrong...sorry) is the salsa on the taco!
Like I said, my parents grandkids are gonna be my animal friends
I Think Someone Working In This Store Is Childfree
And the activities partaken when using one of these products is (hopefully) a lot more fun than using the other. And cheaper.
Fun yes but I dunno about the price, you change the diaper only a couple of times and when I built my inflatable rubber castle it took like three hundred boxes.
Load More Replies...Am I the only one seeing the irony in the condoms brand's name? "Tröjan", like sex comes in the form of a trojan horse; it's pleasent, it looks like a gift but it comes with a load of sperma soldiers inside ready to f**k your life 😂
I don't think condoms are breathable. Your baby might get chaffing and there's this whole issue of how do you put them on. This seems like huge mess waiting to happen. I'd stick with using diapers for my kids.
They should do this in the pet section, too; no hamster has ever needed a college education.
I can't understand why ANYONE would want to have kids in the US. No parental leave, expensive childcare, insanely expensive diapers (and most likely expensive other baby stuff), and most importantly almost half of the kids grow up to become republican!
I don't see why anyone would have children anywhere right now, unless and until something drastic is done about climate change.
Load More Replies...Love this!! This is what they should teach in sex education! Cost comparison and how your life changes when you have a kid.
I think most of the high schools have a segment with "pretend baby" usually a bag of flour or sugar, but sometimes fancier models with sensors and timers. They are not allowed to leave the baby anywhere, no baby sitters, and have to pay for imaginary child care, diapers, doctor visits, etc. out of their already skinny imaginary paychecks. The idea is that once high schoolers realize how incredibly expensive and how much work having a baby is, they'll be more careful in their recreational activities.
Load More Replies...Are nappies really that expensive in the states?! I just bought a pack of 60 for like £7!
The r/childfree community draws a line between two definitions that you might see crop up in the online group quite often: childfree and childless. According to them, childfree people don’t have kids because they don’t want them.
Meanwhile, childless people haven’t gotten around to having kids yet or cannot have them due to various circumstances in their lives, such as financial pressures or infertility. In short, being childfree is very much a measured choice. The reasons, of course, differ from person to person. They might be financial, ecological, emotional, anything in-between, or something different and very personal entirely.
For The Childfree Motorist
Has ANYONE driven more carefully because of the car in front's "baby on board" sticker?
Baby on board stickers are supposedly for the emergency services should there be an accident, so they know to look for a child. Not sure if that's actually true but it's what I heard. EDIT: Someone below shared a link about the ACTUAL origin of the sign. Not for the EMTs after all, but invented by a guy who wanted to let other drivers know he had a baby in the car. Not to make other drivers more careful, but to try and stop them from being impatient with his cautious driving. > https://www.scarymommy.com/baby-on-board/
Load More Replies...According to WI driver's ed, it's to warn other drivers that this particular driver may be distracted as a result of having the kid.
I once saw one of these stickers that said "Huge financial burden on board"
Has ANYONE driven more carefully because of the "baby on board" sticker on their car? It's usually considered a replacement for blue lights and sirens looking at the way the cars with those stickers are driven.
It doesn’t make sense as an alert to emergency services. Does every driver always remove the sticker when they drive without a child? Does every driver with a child onboard always display a sticker? Could no crash be of such violence that the sticker became lost in the wreckage? Essentially such stickers simply say that there may or may not have been a child onboard, which is true for any vehicle, sticker or not. I’d hope emergency services would look for a child in or near the wreckage regardless - and also surely wouldn’t spend hours looking for a child that was never there just because of a sticker. So how does it help?
Load More Replies...I HATE those child on board stickers. What about everyone else. And what about when kids aren't on board but stickers say they are!!
Pretty much why they're ignored by all and sundry. INCLUDING the emergency services. They will check anyway.
Load More Replies...This reminds me of when I was doing my first aid certificate and the tutor gave us this real life scenario: A car has hit a motorcyclist. The biker is pinned under the car, awake and saying "I'm okay!". Inside the car a woman is slumped in the driver's seat, and a baby is in the back screaming its head off. Bystanders are all yelling "SAVE THE BABY!" Who do you help first? The correct answer was: The mother, because she's the one not making any noise. If the kid is crying, that means it's breathing (and likewise the biker is clearly awake and breathing). Sure enough, the mother turned out to be unconscious and silently suffocating to death because of the position she was in. She survived.
I learned recently that the purpose of those stickers is not for others to maintain a safe distance whilst driving but to consider giving these cars more space for parking, so unloading prams and buggies is easier.
It was because of a worried father about aggressive drivers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_on_board
Load More Replies...True
That´s my secret. I was always fat and cranky. No BC needed (or possible).
I'd rather be fat, cranky, and childless than fat, cranky, sleep-deprived, chapped nipples, changing diapers, etc. etc.
Hm
lol I mean, I did what I could and didn't have anymore. But I was told I was selfish for not having another one to "give my daughter a sibling to play with so she won't be lonely." Most stupidest thing to come out of anyone's mouth.
Also no guarantee that siblings will like each other. I have three and only got on with one of them.
Load More Replies...Im laughing as I think of so many younger (and some same age) people I know that have like 3 kids or 1 with another on the way. They are having a hard time adjusting to it... All while its me and my spoiled cat and even with her special needs, shes still cheaper than a child lol. I see them struggle and glad I decided to wait until im in a better place, but im also not sure I even want them. I helped raise 3 younger siblings. Im kinda tapped out 😅
My family thought I was pregnant because I got married at 20 years old. When they found out I wasn't pregnant, they hounded us for 7 YEARS, and kept asking when we were gonna have kids. 22 years later we have 2 kids and are just as in love as ever (gee...maybe it's because we spent some time getting to know each other on a deeper level without distraction?). Not everyone wants to have kids right away (or ever) and that is okay! It is OKAY to wait awhile or not have them at all.
I remember reading stories of impoverished people and many of them had a bunch of kids. Put a cork in it.
For women brains stop growing at pregnancy so if you get pregnant to early your brain won’t function properly im just saying this because it is a fact
The Silent Generation was peer-pressured into having kids. Then the Baby Boomers embraced the whole Mother Nature/pregnancy BS. Finally, we have all the Gen's who seem to have common sense.
The subreddit’s FAQ also deals with pertinent questions like the reasons for backlash against those living childfree, the drive to have children, considering one’s life purpose and possible future regrets (whatever they might be), figuring out whether someone wants to be a parent, and many others. In short, the subreddit provides easy access to a whole bunch of research and opinions that might interest someone who is considering not to have kids in the future or is simply unsure of what they truly want and why.
What’s more, the subreddit’s community members have put together a list of the terminology often used by childfree redditors. You’ll find the full list of terms right here.
Saw This Meme And Thought You Guys Would Enjoy It, Too
Reinforcements are inbound! emu-war-ou...ec5cae.jpg
Here's the US, a century later, still restricting women's health choices!!! And we still get away with calling ourselves a developed nation. Ha!!!
Imagine That. Maybe One Day
I do wonder what the ratio Hoping for positive/Hoping for negative is. The second might be the largest market.
Hoping for positive might use more of them though. People who hope for negative usually only test when they have a reason to be concerned, but those who hope for positive test until they get positive.
Load More Replies...A good, relevant to today scenario, would be a late 30s to 40s something awaiting for results on a pee stick, sees a negative and is rejoiced. Why? She looks to her worried looking teenage daughter and says "Honey,.. it's a negative. You're not pregnant. But we need to have a talk about protective sex NOW."
There should be ads that switch between different women/couples, "Please be no, please be no,""say yes, say yes" and then reaction shots of everyone celebrating, with a voice over "Whatever result you're hoping for, when you need to know, you need preggie-test."
I swear this is literally a commercial I see like everyday lol. My only pet peeve I'd like them to show someone who is pregnant but doesn't want to be.
Load More Replies...I actually just saw an ad like this recently. It showed different women waiting for different results and was done very tastefully. It was with the tagline of the pregnancy test being there for whatever stage of life you need if for. It was really refreshing to see the focus on the women and on a negative result being a good thing sometimes.
There was actually an AD showing a woman happy about a negative test result. Don´t remember the brand though, but it exists! (or existed)
See now I don’t recall throwing shade at childfree people. Why are they always attacking and labelling those who choose to have children? Defensive much?
Load More Replies...Actually, Roku has been running one of these on loop, so... yay?
I actually just saw one like this. I believe it was for clear blue or first response.
Top Notch Product Review
"It also prevented me causing a major disaster when the gender reveal party got out of hand!"
I just had a creepy thought what if you take birth control when you have a baby does it kill the baby?
No. But if you're breast-feeding the baby, the hormones in the birth control pills aren't really great for the baby. Or did you mean if you're pregnant and you take birth control pills? Same thing - will not cause an abortion.
Load More Replies...According to the mods of r/childfree, every single submission on the subreddit has to be related to the childfree lifestyle. That means that low-effort, low-quality posts that have no connection to the core questions and topics of the community are likely to get removed by the moderators themselves.
The community is open to everyone for discussion, as long as they behave in a civil manner. What’s more, there’s absolutely no room for jokes about harming kids.
The idea of people living childfree can result in a lot of hate from those who don’t agree with this lifestyle. Those choosing not to have children can be criticized for their choices or warned that they might regret this later in life. Childfree dramas can touch upon a wide variety of events and can even impact weddings.
How Can You Not Want Them
I've never wanted kids - I think it's an instinct you either have or you don't. In a modern society there are no rational arguments for having kids - it's all emotional. Some people can't comprehend that not everyone has the exact same instincts and emotions as them.
Nowadays having children is selfish. Between the pollution, climate change, lack of decent wages, lack of jobs, of affordable housing... You are just making a child that will likely live a shitty life.
Load More Replies...As hard as it is to admit this my birth-mother should never have had kids. She was never going to make a good mother because of a cruel combination of zero maternal instincts, mental and medical disorders which she point-blank refuses (to this day) to admit let alone allow be treated. And so there are now four of us without their birth-mothers in their lives who ended up having two single fathers stuck with the massive responsibility of bring us up. Fortunately one (my dad) got help when my step-mother came along, and the other dad somehow did a bloody fantastic job all by himself.
I'm sorry you had to deal with a bad mother. I'm so glad your Dad and step Mom stepped in and made things right.
Load More Replies...I never made a conscious decision not to have kids, it's just something I've always known. I told my mum this when I was nine or ten and her reply was " You don't have to get married or have kids and a lot of people shouldn't". I'm now 61 and don't regret it in the slightest
You had a truly wise mum yourself... Glad for you Julie x
Load More Replies...I am beyond sick of the "you'll change your mind" garbage. Maybe I will, maybe I won't. But it's MY decision, MY choice and MY body. Stop making my decisions for me. I'll live with regret if I change my mind later, that's called responsibility!
My incubator told us all, multiple times a day, that we were the worst thing that ever happened to her. That we sucked away her youth and beauty and life and fun and money. Lesson well and truly learned, okay? So why was she so shocked that I took her seriously, and never wanted that to happen to me? Ah, well, once a bitter disappointment, always a bitter disappointment.
I despise people who blame their children for their life choices. I am sorry. Though you don't sound remotely disappointing to me, smart and self-aware enough to know what you want!
Load More Replies...Me: "I dont want kids" Stupid parents: "When you have a child you might change your mind about not wanting children" so I should put myself through a pregnancy, put a child into the world with the reason "I might want it"?
… the same “teenagers” whom they tell will be the future? / Also, I’m(18M) not confident I could balance raising a kid with childhood brain cancer and epilepsy. My cancer diagnosis, and the subsequent 6-week hospital stay, was just a week before my 10th birthday in early September 2013. My epilepsy diagnosis was during the earlier days of the pandemic, in May 2020, and was an effect not of my tumor itself, but of the scar tissue from 2013. I’m almost certain that my medical condition will change sometime in the future, and knowing Murphy’s Law, it’ll be at the worst possible time. I’m not willing to take that risk, especially here in the US with its dysfunctional healthcare system.
You are truly a survivor! Hoping your health improves, so if you want a baby you can. But take care of you and don't let anyone push you into having them if you don't want to.
Load More Replies...I greatly admire and respect people who want to have children and be good parents, it is a sacrifice that is extremely difficult and the unconditional love required is a beautiful thing. However, there are far too many parents like this, who didn't think through all the repercussions and now only complain about the burden their kids are, which is so detrimental to the children. Having kids is a huge decision, and I wish people would think it through more.
I really don't know if I want kids. On the one hand I do, but i do NOT want to go through the birthing proscess. Maybe I'll foster and then adopt, or have a pet cat/dog/bird/bunny lol.
I'd go with the latter choice. OH WAIT! I DID! LOL
Load More Replies...My siblings all had kids so I didn't have pressure from them.
Load More Replies...My Kinda Joint
Where restaurant, where? ;) Monterey county ! Caro making notes.
Load More Replies...I will never get how parents cant teach their kids to be silent and sitting in a restaurant. My parents went out a lot when I was a kid and i would sit listening to them or just paint or play in the sit quietly. My nieces are 8 and 10 and are still runing all the f*****g time around the restaurant. It embarases me a lot.
My mom wouldn't allow unruly behaviour and I was an energetic child. She gave me things to do, had conversations with me. Most of the time I was swinging my legs, bored out of my mind until my food arrived and I just wanted to eat. She didn't let me chew with my mouth open, tried teaching me some table manners. Saying may I pleased be excused. Eating at home was no different. If parents were consistent like that they wouldn't have as much issues.
Load More Replies...If I'm taking the kids out for a meal I tend to choice family oriented places - they're better equipped to entertain kids and the other customers know to expect kids to be there - but I wouldn't take my kids to a really fancy place until they're older and can sit at a table without feeling the need to get up and run around or go to the toilet every 5 mins. Fancy restaurants are boring for kids, which makes them miserable so they act out and as a result make my experience miserable let alone other people, so why would I do that? It's better all round to make appropriate choices for your own needs when doing out for dinner. My teenagers love fancy places and I'm happy to take them as we can have a nice meal drama free, my younger kids, especially my youngest? I'd much rather go to the restaurant that has a soft play, and so would they.
Just saw this after replying to your other post! Absolutely agree.
Load More Replies...I think this concept doesn't go nearly far enough. There should be child free movies, concerts, festivals and museums. Anyplace where adults want to gather should have child free hours or days... no children admitted after 8 pm, for example.
I've had the same thought myself. Whenever I tell people about it I always get the same negative reaction, though.
Load More Replies...I'll never understand the predilection for bringing children into a fine dining establishment, isn't there a Chuck E. Cheese somewhere?
I remember taking my daughter and friends to a family-friendly pizza place. It was not one of those kid pizza places though. The kids were getting a bit loud and rowdy so I yelled "INSIDE VOICES, INSIDE VOICES!!!!!. As soon as I did it, I realized that I was not being a good example. I started laughing, apologized to the children and other patrons. I said "I'm telling you guys to quiet down while I'm yelling at the top of my lungs. I'm sorry". Everyone laughed along, but one little boy said "Mrs. _________, you have a great sense of humor. My mom doesn't have a sense of humor". Best compliment I ever received. And, yes, the kids were not loud and rowdy after that.
Most kids that I've met are really kind and extremely sweet, but are wild because their parents don't take the effort to try to get them to stop acting out.
Load More Replies...No Kids And Always Tired!
Being a carer to elderly parents is tiring, but so is everything that expends energy. Nobody has a monopoly on exhaustion, it's available to one and all and a part of life and living. Some things we do by choice, others cos we have to to survive and thrive.
I don't know about caring for children, but your exhaustion has a light at the end of the tunnel, your children will grow up and live their own lives, they have a future to look forward to. Caring for parents at the end of their lives, it's only going to get worse, So you have that hanging over you as well.
Load More Replies..."You don't KNOW tired till you've had kids!" No...YOU didn't know tired until you had kids. I arrived at my knowledge a different way.
a wise person learns from their mistakes...a WISER PERSON learns from the mistakes of OTHERS!!!!
Load More Replies...Seriously!! My brother rationalizes every lazy/asshole thing he does with "I have 2 children! You have no idea how tired I am or how hard it is". Sorry dude, but I'm pretty sure that most people with children are able to put their dishes in the sink and not have a meltdown when asked to pick up their own s**t. No one forced you to have kids and it doesn't excuse you from being a normal adult.
Dude... Does the kids' mom put her dishes in the sink? If so, your brother is full of it.
Load More Replies...I’ve never been, and hopefully never will be, as exhausted as I was during my 15 months of chemotherapy for childhood brain cancer.
Rather puts it into perspective, doesn't it? Children are not the only cause of bone-deep utter exhaustion.
Load More Replies...I say NO to shift sharing. NO to nightshifts. NO to "grinding". NO to hustling. NO to burning myself out. Life is too short to be driven to the psych ward over all that.
Retired RN speakng...took me 35 years-Then the psych unit-to realize that there are alot more fun/fulfilling reasons to feel exhausted. Yep!
Load More Replies...I do nothing most of the day but I'm SO TIRED all the time.
I used to work 55 hours a week plus drive 130 miles round trip to work every day. I had 3 hours a day to myself, and that was from when I walked in the door at 6 to when I went to bed at 9 to get up and do it all over again at 4:45am. There's no way I could have dealt with kids, I was barely functional by the time I got home.
Work 4-5 days a week. College 4 days a week. Tons of HW. Childless adults can be tired too!
Similarly, had a conversation with a single friend about how she was re the pandemic situation - she said not great, but couldn't grumble because she saw her married colleagues having a dreadful time with homeschool etc. As one of these married colleagues, I had to say that no-one has a monopoly on difficulty in this situation, that there was no hierarchy of 'who's had it worst' at this time, that we've all suffered but in different ways. I'd had a difficult time with homeschool, but her isolation left her with depression, we've both had a bad time, just in different ways. She certainly shouldn't feel guilty about saying what a bad time she's had just because she doesn't have kids and so no 'reason' to be feeling bad.
For instance, a while back, I spoke to Anna and Sarah from The Wedding Society about the etiquette for bringing children to weddings. They explained that it’s important to follow the wishes of the happy couple. So, if the couple asks its guests to leave their kids at home, the polite thing to do would be to adhere to their wishes.
“For guests, the standard (and best) etiquette these days is definitely to respect the wishes of the marrying couple when it comes to children at weddings, whether it be that kids of a certain age are welcome, only specific children of a few family and friends, or no kids at all,” the wedding experts told Bored Panda.
This Speaks To Me
Having disposable income, free time, saturdays to ourselves, dual income.. no kids.
I'm glad I had mine young and she's grown. I don't have to necessarily go by anyone's schedule but my job's... which takes up so much of my time.
Being able to accept spur of the moment plans without having to worry about finding a babysitter!
One Could Also Choose The "God Will Provide" Route As We All Know That Free Money Is A Thing In This World
But you can't apply for animal support, yet you can apply for child support.
I legit had some old ass dude try to argue with me that a child and a cat cost the same amount in the long run *facepalm*
And your blood pressure decreases when you pet a dog. True story, dogs are good for your heart (and probably definitely your soul). Not sure if a toddler would provide the same benefits.
1k? That's a lying stat if I ever saw one. Mine is worth every penny and then some, rather he's priceless but 1k? Idk, maybe locale has something to do with it but 1k? Lies. Vet bills surpassed that it less than a few months, just saying
I wish that was all if costs to take care of a dog. Still would rather do that, though.
It’s Almost Summer!
Ain't that the truth. Nothing worse than that high pitched kettle whistle screeching they do. Makes me want to jamb an oyster fork in my ear. I actually prefer winter between the kids and the a**hole adults with their leaf blowers.
This summer (2021), I started screaming inside my living room, "OH MY GAAAWWWD," as loud as the children since they refuse to play in their BACKYARD. After a few times, even though my window was closed (AC), it worked. I noticed a massive playset in their backyard driving the other day and how their dog stays in the garage and not the backyard. Hmmm. It seems these kids with kids find it easier to clean dog poop in the garage.
Load More Replies...Play with the kids! Teach them how to dance, how to sing, how to drum on everything, give them a loud toy and let them take it home and before saying goodbye give them a shot of espresso.
I would very much like to NOT play with kids. Everything kids do is extremely uninteresting and they give me a headache
Load More Replies...Nobody: Craneflies for some god forsaken reason: passenger-...43e25c.jpg
I think they chose the wrong photo... the real one would be a spoiled toddler begging for ice cream and throwing a massive tantrum when he doesn’t get it. Ah, the joys of summer
The point is they aren’t in school in the summer lol
Load More Replies...Aww poor bugs, you cant lump in the same catagory with those horrible screeching monsters. At least the bugs are good for the environment.
*ahem* "pepper" (JOKE I SWEAR, I WOULD NEVER USE PEPPER SPRAY ON A CHILD)
We need child swatters. Huge fly swatters. Electric fly swatters that are three times the size of a child for efficient yeeting/frying
Sorry, you’re wrong. Not REALLY pesty yet at that age.Thirteen to eighteen would be just about right. A co-weaker once said, “They should put all teenagers behind a 35 foot high barbed wire fence in the middle of Wyoming till they’re about 35 and get some sense”.
Why can’t people like kids too? I haven’t done any crappy messed up thing 3 years. And I’m ten and almost 11
“Please don’t take the inclusion or exclusion of your little ones personally (especially if the couple don’t have kids of their own to fully understand your situation) and remember—as nice as it is to bring your babies along to the celebration, it’s also an awesome opportunity for a fun night off if you’re asked to leave them with a sitter!” the experts said.
“For marrying couples, the etiquette can be trickier. Newborns really need to be with their parents so please don’t ask for any babies under a few months to be left at home. It’s perfectly reasonable to ask for parents of older children to take the night off and leave them with a sitter, but the fairest way to do this is to make a blanket rule for everyone rather than picking and choosing which kids can come and who can’t.”
Cheers!
Obviously making the best out of lockdown. Lockdown without kids, that is.
Load More Replies...I wondered this same thing! I remember when my kids were little, counting down the days of summer until I could get my sanity back. I can only imagine how hard it must've been for parents of young kids this past year and a half. Quarantine life was soooo much easier with independent teenagers (or no kids at all)!
Don't take this so personally. It's wonderful that you have well behaved kids but I've been in restaurants and such where the parents just let them run wild.
Load More Replies...Asking The Right Questions
Do kids want to be at the wedding? Because as a child, I went to several, and they were mostly boring.
I am a full grown adult, and weddings are painfully boring for me.
Load More Replies...I have met some well-behaved kids and they're part of the family.
As an Indian this is so weird for me. Indian weddings are chaotic family events, not sophisticated adult parties. Literally everyone you know is to be invited. I loved going to weddings as a kid, mostly for the delicious food. Still do.
Yes, but I bet the food was absolutely fantastic!!
Load More Replies...I can't understand why very small children making a mess of being flower girls or ring bearers are supposed to be cute. They don't understand what they're supposed to be doing and if I were the bride/groom I'd be quietly furious
It's an opinion. Lots of people just think they are cute. Not because they are "supposed to be" but because "they are" cute to them.
Load More Replies...And do you take this man as you lawfu- WAHHHH *hysterical baby crying noises* AAAHHH
Where I live it's pretty normal to include kids into both daily life and big occasions and to teach them how to behave 🤷🏻♀️
The problem is that many parents who bring kids to weddings are there to party instead of keeping an eye on their children and making them behave.
Load More Replies...Not inviting allowing kids to your wedding is doing more a favor to the kids than yourself tbh.
I very much enjoyed our child free wedding... Selfish??? Nope. I took pleasure in knowing I provided a paid for celebration for our friends and family who wanted to have a fabulous day/night off. Those who complained invariable didn't come, so we only had happily child free people eating, dancing and enjoying. It's one day. Parents are allowed to have a little time out too.... kids aren't going to enjoy an adult party... the day stuff is boring ... Stop judging child free weddings,... Yes some kids are well behaved (as an aside... our own child was there and perfectly behaved all day...I just didn't want loads of other kids there) ... Prepared for all the down votes 😬
I loved going to weddings as a child, but then again I was a very quiet and obedient onlie.
The Look Of Horror On Every Passenger’s Face As Children Board The Plane
I don't mind this one as much. Parents and kids have to travel too and babies are going to cry....what pisses me off is when it's older kids with no manners who kick seats, jump on seats and scream for no reason.
I am with you. Babies screaming anoy the crap out of me but they are babies, they cant help it. But rude children should not be tolerated.
Load More Replies...Never understood why people bring babies on flights. Surely it would be easier if you just rented one when you get to your destination?
I know right? Just go to a hospital and rent a baby there! Smh
Load More Replies...Ahaha! Same here. Also, I'd rather have dogs and cats running around than having to endure unruly children and crying babies. Actually, that'd be awesome. :-)
Load More Replies...Not the point, but that looks bigger than any plane I've ever been on.
Those are faces that scream, "The one time I didn't bring earplugs and THIS happens?"
It's not always just toddlers. I once went on a trip to Viena zoo with my coworkers. 14 years old, daughter of my coworker, kept blabbering on, loud enough to annoy everyone on a bus, and won't shut up. Toddlers were better behaved than her.
There should be fares only allocated to people with kids, that way they can ride in their screaming tin tube together and the rest of us don't have to listen to that s**t
Flight attendant here: mostly it's not the children, but their parents. Who think their little one does not need any supervision, is the only thing we have to look after, who think we have "french fries" to feed them (someone asked this today!) who change diapers on the traytable while other passengers eat... the list goes on. Yes there should be child free sections on a plane. Where other people have their peace and quiet !
Previously, my colleague Liucija spoke to Amy Blackstone, author of ‘Childfree by Choice’ and a professor of sociology at the University of Maine. Amy told Bored Panda that more people are aware that living childfree is a viable option than ever before.
“That is largely thanks to the willingness of childfree people to speak out about their choice and of course to the decades-long work of reproductive justice advocates. Whether more people than in the past will ultimately remain childfree for their lifetimes remains to be seen,” the professor explained.
I Swear
Family want's you to be an incubator. My mum asked me (loooong time ago) if I would want children. I said Nope! Mum said "hmmm I get that, you do what you want sweetheart". Bless her.
My parents asked my older brother if he wanted to get married or have children or both. He said no. They haven't bothered him about it since. They asked me if I wanted to get married or have kids or both. I said yes, so now I get parenting advice and lessons about how to tell if someone's not good to be with. It's awesome!
Load More Replies...Babies are more permanent than tattoos. You can at least use laser technology to scrub most traces of them gone. You do that with a baby, you're going to jail forever.
Bahahaha, I can imagine bringing a kid to a tattoo removal place and ask if they can please remove this s%#&
Load More Replies...Because you dont have to feed a tattoo and make sure they grow up to be model citizens. That just have to EXIST. Even me, a person who has no tattoos (yet) knows that.
no they are expensive, painful and permanent! at least with tattoos i forget they are there sometimes and get a nice surprise lmao ill get judged for forgetting a kid exists
Hahahaha! I have 4 very tasteful tattoos that can easily be hidden if necessary. When I got the large, fully bicep encompassing Celtic band, my Mom wanted to know why????? Without missing a beat I told her it was to help identify the body. I did it for YOU, Mom!
I'm going to get a tattoo. DEFINITELY not a baby. They're LEECHES. Slimy, whining LEECHES
Tattoos are not as permanent as people think. The argument I get is it's "ink poisoning" and "you get many needles going into your skin." But I don't see anyone screaming in as much agony as I was getting an IV 5 times with no anesthesia, thanks to our doofus, now thankfully ex-provincial premier wanting to cut medical care costs.
My Friend Sent This To Me
weirdly enough, (am 45 and happily childfree) I've had this by 30 something people, older people dont bother me really.
As a child free middle aged woman, I kinda regret that I never felt secure enough to consider the question of whether I wanted kids or not. I wonder what my life would be like if I had just impulsively had kids, money be damned.
LOL......very true. I respect all my friends and acquaintances over the years who decided not to have children. All of them like kids, they just didn't want any of their own. I have a kid, love that kid, but having kids is not for everyone. Lifetime commitment and people realize that. When you know it's not for you that is the right choice. Why do people try to judge everyone else's life?
You might also change your mind about having kids, and what do you do with the kids then? If you change your mind about not having kids, you can work in kindergarten, adopt, be a foster parent, or baby-sit your friends' kids. Sure, you can leave your kids for adoption, but that's probably the least politically correct thing you can do in a developed country.
Clever Girl
Mine is the dumbest. But also extremely affectionate and sweet
Load More Replies...Yeah, I knew this one. My GSD told me something similar this morning while reading his mail...
This is so good it must be a stand up routine with more similar material.
“Certainly more millennials are currently childfree than were previous generations at their age, but there hasn't been a dramatic increase in lifetime childlessness,” Amy noted. She added that, in time, it’ll become clear if today’s millennials are opting out of parenthood altogether or simply delaying starting a family.
“We know from all kinds of social science research that having kids is not required for living a complete, happy, and fulfilling life,” the professor told Bored Panda. “We now know that parenthood is simply one of many paths available to us,” she said that it’s due to more childfree people speaking out about their lifestyle.
This About Sums It Up
Or "before" and "after" photos of the stylish interior of their house.
I've always liked this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nojWJ6-XmeQ
I have seen some really funny ones passed around on the Internet showing a toddler having a tantrum in a super market.
Or drawing on a ps5. Or a keyed car saying "mommy you are the best mommy"
I have 4 kids (5,9,12,14). You'd be disapointed and confused at the commercial.
Truth Hurts
I get told by everyone i look remarkably young and vibrant at 36, most peg me at 24. My secret? Good moisturizer, lots of water, and NO DAMN CHILDREN DESTROYING THE TELOMERES ON MY DNA AND MAKING ME LOOK HAGGARD.
A flight attendant heard me mention I had a brother on his 60s. "60s? How old are you?" I explained I was 54. "You look so young!" I explained " No husband, no kids."
This is funny to me because I'm mid-60's and when people tell me I don't look my age, I say "Thanks. it's because I never had kids."
That's right! No extreme skin stretching, no tension, plenty of sleep and eat more expensive food, have time to exercise and money for FUN.
I am closing in on 70 and really don't have any urinary incontinence problems
Long Term Planning
Apocalypse movies taught me one thing: 90% of the preventable deaths are caused because a kid does something stupid
But didn't 100% of apocalypse movies caused by adults doing something stupid though?
Load More Replies...Not to mention that many times it isn't necessary to outrun the monster but being faster than others. Children have quit short legs....
Load More Replies...When people used to ask me why I didn't want kids, I'd just say with a straight face, "I never wanted to be the recipient of that much ingratitude." Then just stare at them. They'd do that awkward chuckle not knowing if I was kidding or not. And when I didn't bail them out, they changed the topic. Every time.
That's one of my top arguments against having children actually. There are just way too many people in the world!
Too true. IF I were of childbearing years now, I would choose not to have children simply due to the world-wide resistance to doing anything meaningful to prevent what is coming. I will be dead before the worst of it...but I really fear for my granddaughter.
Hallelujah
I used cloth diapers with all 3 of mine. Helps save the environment and much healthier than putting whatever the hell it is those diapers are made from on my children's butt.
Load More Replies...People frequently ask me how I can afford a big house all to myself, or other stuff, and my reply is always "I don't have kids"
I own a capital city apartment and also a country house next to it (those are bought with my own money, I also own other properties via inheritance). I have also kids. My country is not the richest one in the world, but we don't get into debts for university education, nor for medical care. So, kids are not a big burden, they haven't costed much, I also used and passed on a lot of clothes, pram, etc. We can afford a private school for both of them. So I don't get this American dream that sounds more like a nightmare.
Load More Replies...Spot on. Now that I'm a certain age, I can also do this walking down the "feminine hygiene" aisle. There's a feeling of satisfaction that washes over me every single time.
Menstrual cups are so much better for the environment, because they can be used up to 10 years, and also much more comfortable, so comfortable you forget about being on your cycle without the side effects of tampons and pads. Not to mention money saved. There is this psychological barrier until you make your mind to try them out (it took me 5 years), but once you do, you always wonder how you've lived before them.
Load More Replies...And the odor of the diaper pail at my older siblings' homes was one of the first things to turn me off to parenthood.
Load More Replies...That's an achievement and a path to dementia. Congrats.
Load More Replies...Ryan Reynolds Gets It!
Haha thanks I hardly ever laugh out loud and I did at that
Load More Replies...This from a wealthy person who can afford nannies, house cleaners, and all those services most parents have to do on their own.
Sorry, guys who are insanely rich who have children have no cause to be tired. They usually have a team of nannies around the clock and didn't have the life threatening and permanent physical damage and pain that goes with carrying and giving birth. All they did is have sex and pay the nanny. All they have to do is spend a couple hours here and there with them.
Haha Not In This Economy!
So true! Then I think how much more broke I'd be if I had a kid...no thanks.
Load More Replies...Since I have no children I can make as much debt as I want. You can't take your own money with you, but you can take your bank's money with you.
Most childless people actually sleep thru the night. Unlike their parent counterparts.
This Guy Gets It
I'm now hearing under 25 to be too young. Strange it was thought of as an issue for you.
Yeah! I read somewhere that getting married at 25+ decreases the risk of divorce by 60% or something. I believe it, your brain's not even fully developed until then.
Load More Replies...25?! That's way to young. At 25, you are barely a functionning adult who just graduated.
Idk why you were down voted so here ya go. 25 is definitely young to have a kid.
Load More Replies...I'm 32, which seems to be the perfect age of being told you might still change your mind
Yeah, women are now allowed in combat at the age of 18, they can smoke at 18 and drink when they turn 21 - BUT heaven forbid one of them decides at 24 she never wants kids, because she's obviously not mature enough to make that decision.
My divorce was amicable because we didn't have children to fight over. No kids torn between choosing a parent. No holiday hassles. Child-free is the way to be!
Who cares what other people think? Do they have to risk their life giving birth? Do they have to have the life sucked out of them for the next 18 years? Do they have to sacrifice their time, sleep and money? "Well, Carol, I really don't want kids, I don't like them and would be a terrible mother. But since you think I should have them, I'll get right on that. That would be really fair to both the child and me."
My mum had me when she was 27, (In belarus). Was considered late birther. Here in AUS most people had their kids at 35 or more.
I looked it up and the average age in Australia is 30.8 for mothers and 33.1 for father’s (as of 2019), so not quite 35+, although it must be common there to bring the average age up.
Load More Replies...I have the perfect answer now for people who ask why I don't have kids. "When I had chemo for the colon cancer it made me sterile." No repeat questions.
25? Many folks at least in the USA are waiting to have children later than that.
Laugh(ing) my a**e off *or ass, I’m British so it’s a**e to us! Lol
Load More Replies...When You Become A Mother
For my mom's 80th birthday I went through all of our childhood family albums to make a photo book that was all about her...it was heartbreaking how few photos were actually OF her not just her in the background holding a child. Out of several hundred I found a few gems. When I gave her the book she broke down and cried.
Load More Replies...Is that supposed to be some feel-good inspirational s**t? Because it is depressing.
I might consider being a father, but not a mother. But somehow the option doesn't seem to be available...
Load More Replies...Eff that noise. Yet another reason people without brains shouldn't be allowed to write greeting cards. What was the one for the dad? Fathers, because one moment of enjoyment created years of support.
This is exactly what gets me. If I become a mother, (and I have no plans to) my life will stop being about me. My life will start to revolve around my child, and I'm a selfish ass so I never want that
LOL YES. I have too many things left to do on this planet! My life revolves around me, I’m selfish and I like it like that that hehe
Load More Replies...Great View From Here
As far as I can tell, everyone in the picture is male, so I'm not really sure what you're getting at.
Load More Replies...Lazy Saturdays Are My Kinda Thing!
What they say: You should have kids! What I hear: You should contribute to overpopulation and throw away your happiness!
To be deprived of sleeping in at least one weekend morning is something to be carefully considered.
Adults also need certain clothes for certain times/days and also forget things?
The Correct Response
Nancy Pelosi raised 5 kids. That's how she knows how to run the House.
So are you saying she wouldn't know if she didn't have kids?
Load More Replies...I'll have kids the day you learn how to respect people and mind your own damn business. In other words, never.
Gatekeeping Being Tired Is For The Birds
I have chronic pain & chronic fatigue and whenever a parent gives me the old “you don’t know what tired means” I hit them with the old “decisions were made by you, not me”. F*****g love it.
Load More Replies...As someone who is single, chronically ill, and child free, I have heard this more than once.
Right? I can barely walk 20-30m a day without getting severe pain (thanks CFS). But mothers are tired ...
Load More Replies...Even as a parent I hate these comments. Parents will actually try to one up each other ffs. "Oh your child has a developmental delay? Well, mine has cerebral palsy. Way harder to deal with." "Oh you have only one kid? Well, I have 3. I have more experience as a parent than you." (actually said to me by a 17 year old who actually had 3 kids... Yeah...)
Afternoon pickup turns into a pity party 🙄 it's terrible!!
Load More Replies...I'm a mother myself and even I am sick of other moms trivializing the exhaustion of others. To those jerks I say- "Raise your kid right and you wouldn't be so exhausted" works great.
Exactly. My mother trained all of us to take care of ourselves. That's how she can have 11 kids without going insane. She just has to take care of the youngest 3.
Load More Replies...Hey Lora? Speaking as a chronically ill woman (fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue) and pretty poor mental health (DID, Schizophrenia and depression/anxiety) who has now adopted my autistic goddaughter last year: no, No one wins. F**k off. Everyones pain/tirednes etc is all completely valid, there's no f*****g competition.
"My lungs dont work very well and I can't digest food without at least 30 pills every morning" "JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE KIDS YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW LUCKY YOU ARE" this is what I get told. I'm only 15.
I'm chronically ill with 4 kids - do I get some kind of medal??? And yes, I'm sitting here after walking kids to school in silence, sprawled across the sofa absolutely knackered.I really want a cup of tea but, like, effort. I need a personal assistant
Milk and sugar? I make better virtual tea than actual
Load More Replies...One maybe - two, eh - but FIVE?? You made your bed (afterwards or never), so there it is.
I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone who brings the pain down onto themselves. Mothers, you chose this path, so suck it up, and STFU about it.
It Do Be Like That
People finally stopped asking, once I hit 40. Until then it was - "Just wait - that biological clock is going to start ticking any minute now." Yeah, I don't think I have one of those.
I sometimes think about all the women and men who hears things like that and who are actually are trying to have a child but might misscarrige everytime before they have the chance to tell anyone, or cant have children but really wants it. I never ask someone why they arent having a child or question their time to have one. Its insensitive and none of my business.
Load More Replies...I am so sick of this. I have endometriosis and adenomyosis and three gynecologists refused to give me the hysterectomy I need "because you will change your mind" o "you are too young". The last one convinced me to do a less effective surgery but he did not tell me that pregnancy afterwards while possible is really dangerous. On top of that he risked my life by refusing to sterilise me at the same time (taking my fallopian tubes out). I would have never consented if I knew about the risk. He literally lied and risked my life so i would keep the smallest chance of getting pregnant. Of course the hospital defends him and has done nothing against him. Luckily I found a fourth gyn that is a decent man and will give me the hysterectomy.
On top of that my "aunts in law" (ironically lesbian and childfree) agree with the other doctors "because she is too young to decide to not have children". I guess that I am too young to decide not to die because of pregnancy? They literarly prefer me to die than to not give them a damn baby... My partner was super angry with them.
Load More Replies...Also, let's point out that men never get asked these questions, nor are they chided when they have a child later in life.
My niece asks me when I’m going to have one. I say never and she’s like but if you get married !!!! And I’m like no. No one has to have any kids.
These people do it to everybody. I had a 1,5 y.o. child, and was pregnant visibly with the second one, and one brat just asks me "So, you have a kid, but when are you going to have the next one?". And I was like "Don't worry, I am in the middle of completing your request right now!". She was stunned and left me alone. It is a horrible question to ask a relative stranger! Imagine them trying for 20 years to have a child and having you asking them about it!
I'm more curious about this photograph than in the child-free message.
When you have them young people don't ask for the rest of your life cos they just think of you as a teen mom forever. Reminds me of when the parents on Teen Mom have their reunions with Dr. Drew. They're all established adults now (except the odd bad ones), their first kids are almost teenagers. Whenever one of them gets pregnant again Dr. Drew retorts "So... didn't learn from the first time? That's what happens when you don't use protection." Like ffs. Adults can make those decisions.
I find it weird how the same question isn’t usually expected to be answered by men.
My Bloodline Ends With Me
I'd go for the latter. One branch of my family has a history of severe mental illness which has led to several suicides, including that of my mother. Even if I wanted kids I wouldn't take the risk.
My dad did commit suicide, my sister attempted and ended up in the hospital, I have chronic depression issues. A part of me does want a (singular) kid some day, but man is that f-ing terrifying. I'm not sure I can justify the risk.
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Never Gonna Happen
I am selfish. I like my ME time. I like being able to play video games for hours or watch whatever I want all weekend. I really enjoy being able to go out and sit in a pub all afternoon and/or evening. I like spending my money on myself (and kitties and mum). Is that selfish? You bet it is! And I LOVE it!
Isn't having kids a selfish thing too though? I mean, I had them because I wanted them. Although. I would say that choosing to live your life the way you want it make you happy isn't selfish and we should stop thinking that way. I'm terrible for doing things that I don't want to to make others happy which is fine, but then there's times it's something that has a negative impact on me yet I feel incapable of saying no which is crazy. Saying no shouldn't be seen as selfish - people have the right to make their own choices for their own well being
Biologically some people are driven to procreate more than others. So there's a biological reason to want to. When you add logic to it, though I'm on the side of those that don't want kids on this one. I'm a mom, I had kids because I wanted to share my knowledge of the earth with them and maybe help them help the planet (I'm a retired eco researcher) but that's still a selfish reason. To those that don't want kids- I applaud you. Don't give idiots the time of day to even ask you why you don't have kids- take that trip to cabo instead!!
Having a rich, wonderful, worriless life and a wish to give your children the opportunity to have the same.
Your kid could someday save someones life. Like mine was saved by my wife. Does it matter in the long run? Probably not, but maybe your kid would still like to be alive at some point. Or the opposite. We never know. I think the argument weird though. Meaning if we all stopped being selfish, humanity would die. (Again, it might not matter or even be bad in the long run) But then again, would that at some point mean it wouldn’t be selfish to keep humanity going? Social security, economy, health care also rely on future generations where I live. About 30% of my future pension most likely will come via a pay-as-you-go system relying on the next generations. Would also be nice to have doctors and nurses when we become of age one day. But that’s selfish again right? Kinda wanting to have your own will, either way, seems selfish tbh.
If You Want To Make God Laugh, Tell Him Your Plans
Having a child solely so they take care of you later in life is really selfish.
And unrealistic because often the parents have to take care of the children till the end of their life.
Load More Replies...I clearly remember the day my father said that to me. I looked over to my left where my six year old niece (an absolute hellion) was tearing her 6'2" father a new one about something. "You think that one's going to grow up to look after her parents?" Cut to today: That one lives on the other side of the continent and has issues of her own to deal with.
I'm prepared to bet the "when are you going to have kids?" crowd overlaps quite significantly with the anti-immigration crowd. It's not just the "who's going to look after you when you're older?" argument - it's wider reaching than that. An aging society with fewer young people to step into job roles creates problems as older people either retire or die - fewer workers = less tax income (for social security payments) or less investment money (for retirement funds generated this way). If people aren't having kids to make up the gap, we must *gasp* allow foreigners in to do the work instead!
If you only have children because you expect them to take care of you, you deserve to be abandonned by them for your selfishness.
There are certain cultures that are obligated to take care of their parents in old age. But most society does not feel that obligation. There is a very high percentage of people in nursing homes who never get visitors regardless of the fact that they raised a number of children. Having kids does not guarantee you will have company and someone to care for you.
I find this insulting to the memory of my father and how he took care of my grandparents. They lived up to being 94 y.o. and my father lived with them, he cooked for them, he changed diapers, he fed them, bathed them, carried them around to the TV / sofa / bed.
Well then obviously this doesn't apply to you lol. This post is just pointing out that not every child can take care of their parent because of other obligations.
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"Having a child makes you more mature!" "Having a child makes you more empathetic!" No, having a child just makes you a parent
Children have babies because their parents won't let them have a decent sex education.
In the special case of my mother, a child had a son because her parents never loved her and treated her like a slave.
Load More Replies...That'll fix it. A living creature we can use to guilt trip eachother into staying together and hiding a super unhealthy relationship that ultimately ends up giving the kid some sort of personality disorder and abandonment issues due to getting schedules mixed up one time too many and fighting over who's turn it was to pick up little Jenny this time.
I have seen few years ago the film called Idiocracy, the starting is funny, but sad in the same time. Tells the truth about people in the world. Primitive people don't see consequenses, educated people just waiting for the right moment to have kids... One thing is for sure, it's not for everyone to have children, there are so many idiot who replicates themself. Need to think thousand times to give birth nowadays...I agree with this pic, idiots are doing this also, trying to fix relationships with babies. The poor kid will functioning as a chain between two person, parents will blame an innocent life, and suddenly one more damaged person will grow up.
Where Do Babies Come From?
There's So Much Room For Activities!
Just because you could do it doesn't mean anyone else can or should.
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I Love It When Things Are Oddly Specific Yet So Accurate
I notice that, too. I'll be out and there will be a young child who clearly has a terrible cold with a croupy cough and runny nose, and I just wonder why the parents have this child out and about and not in bed.
I also wonder what kind of people do that. If my kid is starting to get sick (starting to change the sound of their voice) I take measures and keep it at home, they never get sicker and are fine in a day. The rest of the kids are always very sick and always for days or even weeks. And their parents seem to not notice and think it's all kids that are like that. No, they are not.
Load More Replies...At Least I Don’t Have Kids
Likewise. "Dammit, I'm going to splash out on a facsimile Shakespeare First Folio, it's not as if I have kids"
Haven't Heard From
It Do Be Like That Though.
Cause all of our money is going on overpriced rent.
Load More Replies...And please people. Consider if its ethical to have children. Many of us have inheritable diseases that should never be transmitted. I am tired of hearing cases of chronically ill parents with inheritable diseases that chose to have children. I am sorry but thats a monstruosity, condemning your children to pain and less opportunities in life. As a disabled woman I hate those kind of people. If you want kids thats fine, adopt and give a loving home to a child that needs it. But dont punish your children by forcing them to endure horrible illneses.
In my family it's depression and other forms of mental illness. I have not been immune and I decided early on that I would not be passing it on to another generation.
Load More Replies...It’s not just the people who don’t want or can’t have kids that get hassled. I had my son at 18, unexpected and unplanned but he’s wonderful. He’s 26 now and I’m 45. I still get people asking when I’m having the next as it’s “nearly too late”. I don’t understand why other people think it’s their business if you don’t want kids or don’t want more kids. There are so many personal reasons. I’ve had 25 years of this crap!.
Some people are always demanding stuff and are never happy. When a boyfriend? When are you marrying? When are having a child? When are you having another child? ...
Load More Replies...Having or not having children is such a personal choice( or, ideally, should be a choice), it shouldn't be put on public debate or as two fighting enemies. However, people thinking about having children should seriously think why, if they are up to the job both materially and emotionally. Children should not be had as insurance in old age, for your benefit or for only 18 years of care. One should know that once one becomes a parent, one is a parent FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE with all the responsibilities that come from that huge decision.
People thinking about having children need to think about a lot more than just themselves (“whether they are up to the job”). Think about the impact of having a child. Impact on others (family, expecting support/childcare, financial burden on the government and tax payers). Overpopulation. Resources running out. Pollution. All that disposable crap (nappies, toys, plastic, etc) you’re putting in to the world having a child. The future of the world and your child’s chances. The burden on them to care for you when you’re old. They’re also going to be left cleaning up the (environmental etc) mess of the current generation.
Load More Replies...Don't want kids, fine. There are people out there who do want and love their kids. To each their own.
I couldn't agree more with you. I've never wanted kids and I still don't. But I'm kind of sick of this kind of posts.
Load More Replies...I knew at 16 I never wanted kids. I just turned 66. I've never had one minute of regret. I retired at 62 and moved to a mountain villa near Valencia Spain. As I type this I'm on an impromptu trip to Bari, Italy because why not. In a month I'm spending Christmas visiting Christmas markets in three different Baltic countries because why not. I wouldn't trade my life for all the Huggies on the planet.
Baltics is great! Be sure to visit Christmas markets in Germany as well! Maybe next year? I highly recommend!
Load More Replies...I got so fed up with being asked why I don’t have kids that I now give people a “full explanation”. If people want to be incredibly rude and intrusive in my life, well, you’re getting the full story and I don’t care about making you feel awkward. So, no, I don’t have kids because I have endometriosis. That means I have tissue from my uterus spread throughout my abdomen. That means that every month I don’t just bleed from my vsgina, I also bleed into my abdomen, my bladder and my bowels. I get very ill and also pee and poop blood. This is very painful. It also means that I have had so many operations they can’t operate anymore due to scar tissue and, just as an extra thing, I can’t have kids. Did you have another question? They want to over intrude, I will over share!
Chose to be child-free from age 17. Was denigrated, berated and quietly mocked for my immaturity. I quietly acknowledged that misery loves company. My friends with kids have ordinary lives with stabs of joy. I have a joyful life with stabs of ordinariness. I'm now 57 mentoring talented, emerging filmmakers. No nappies. No tantrums. No ingratitude. I win.
To all who appreciate these posts, you seriously enjoy a book called 10:59 by N R Baker. Why do people actually have kids? Mostly because society, their parents or religion demands it. And yet the population of the planet is spiralling out of control. Honestly, this novel completely changed the way I see the world, and questioned everything I ever thought about life. It's also a damn fine thriller and beautifully written. Highly recommend it for anyone who isn't a sheep.
I have a hereditary condition that results in miscarriages. My mom had it too, so she understands, yet she’s still pressuring me to have kids and marry at 20 like she did. Honey, just because I liked working in the nursery does not mean I want to have kids. Actually it convinced that I really don’t, because I was exhausted after spending 3 hours with babies and toddlers. Also, getting married at 20 is crazy and I don’t want to do that either. To be honest, I doubt I’ll have relationships at all; my mental health is too dysfunctional and I don’t want to put that burden on someone (also, I’m socially awkward and ugly af)
You deserve so much better than to settle down and get married and have kids at 20!! Mom's pressure is probably coming from a weird biological place of her own (wanting grandkids). I'm sorry you're going through that. I wish you the best in your childfree life!!
Load More Replies...I have 2 amazing kids. They were both very much wanted and I haven't regretted them for a second. That being said, if you don't want kids, for the love of all that is holy, please don't have them. It's true that they take over your life. Every single decision and plan I make has to be done with my kids in mind. That's a recipe for resentment for anyone who isn't 100% on board.
I totally agree with you, but there is one thing- wanting to have kids and your fantasty about having them is usually very much different from reality. I guess you may want to have kids with all your heart and still you cannot preparaty or imagine what is’s gonna be like with your first child. I guess you may have second thoughts no matter how much you wanted a child.
Load More Replies...And please people. Consider if its ethical to have children. Many of us have inheritable diseases that should never be transmitted. I am tired of hearing cases of chronically ill parents with inheritable diseases that chose to have children. I am sorry but thats a monstruosity, condemning your children to pain and less opportunities in life. As a disabled woman I hate those kind of people. If you want kids thats fine, adopt and give a loving home to a child that needs it. But dont punish your children by forcing them to endure horrible illneses.
In my family it's depression and other forms of mental illness. I have not been immune and I decided early on that I would not be passing it on to another generation.
Load More Replies...It’s not just the people who don’t want or can’t have kids that get hassled. I had my son at 18, unexpected and unplanned but he’s wonderful. He’s 26 now and I’m 45. I still get people asking when I’m having the next as it’s “nearly too late”. I don’t understand why other people think it’s their business if you don’t want kids or don’t want more kids. There are so many personal reasons. I’ve had 25 years of this crap!.
Some people are always demanding stuff and are never happy. When a boyfriend? When are you marrying? When are having a child? When are you having another child? ...
Load More Replies...Having or not having children is such a personal choice( or, ideally, should be a choice), it shouldn't be put on public debate or as two fighting enemies. However, people thinking about having children should seriously think why, if they are up to the job both materially and emotionally. Children should not be had as insurance in old age, for your benefit or for only 18 years of care. One should know that once one becomes a parent, one is a parent FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE with all the responsibilities that come from that huge decision.
People thinking about having children need to think about a lot more than just themselves (“whether they are up to the job”). Think about the impact of having a child. Impact on others (family, expecting support/childcare, financial burden on the government and tax payers). Overpopulation. Resources running out. Pollution. All that disposable crap (nappies, toys, plastic, etc) you’re putting in to the world having a child. The future of the world and your child’s chances. The burden on them to care for you when you’re old. They’re also going to be left cleaning up the (environmental etc) mess of the current generation.
Load More Replies...Don't want kids, fine. There are people out there who do want and love their kids. To each their own.
I couldn't agree more with you. I've never wanted kids and I still don't. But I'm kind of sick of this kind of posts.
Load More Replies...I knew at 16 I never wanted kids. I just turned 66. I've never had one minute of regret. I retired at 62 and moved to a mountain villa near Valencia Spain. As I type this I'm on an impromptu trip to Bari, Italy because why not. In a month I'm spending Christmas visiting Christmas markets in three different Baltic countries because why not. I wouldn't trade my life for all the Huggies on the planet.
Baltics is great! Be sure to visit Christmas markets in Germany as well! Maybe next year? I highly recommend!
Load More Replies...I got so fed up with being asked why I don’t have kids that I now give people a “full explanation”. If people want to be incredibly rude and intrusive in my life, well, you’re getting the full story and I don’t care about making you feel awkward. So, no, I don’t have kids because I have endometriosis. That means I have tissue from my uterus spread throughout my abdomen. That means that every month I don’t just bleed from my vsgina, I also bleed into my abdomen, my bladder and my bowels. I get very ill and also pee and poop blood. This is very painful. It also means that I have had so many operations they can’t operate anymore due to scar tissue and, just as an extra thing, I can’t have kids. Did you have another question? They want to over intrude, I will over share!
Chose to be child-free from age 17. Was denigrated, berated and quietly mocked for my immaturity. I quietly acknowledged that misery loves company. My friends with kids have ordinary lives with stabs of joy. I have a joyful life with stabs of ordinariness. I'm now 57 mentoring talented, emerging filmmakers. No nappies. No tantrums. No ingratitude. I win.
To all who appreciate these posts, you seriously enjoy a book called 10:59 by N R Baker. Why do people actually have kids? Mostly because society, their parents or religion demands it. And yet the population of the planet is spiralling out of control. Honestly, this novel completely changed the way I see the world, and questioned everything I ever thought about life. It's also a damn fine thriller and beautifully written. Highly recommend it for anyone who isn't a sheep.
I have a hereditary condition that results in miscarriages. My mom had it too, so she understands, yet she’s still pressuring me to have kids and marry at 20 like she did. Honey, just because I liked working in the nursery does not mean I want to have kids. Actually it convinced that I really don’t, because I was exhausted after spending 3 hours with babies and toddlers. Also, getting married at 20 is crazy and I don’t want to do that either. To be honest, I doubt I’ll have relationships at all; my mental health is too dysfunctional and I don’t want to put that burden on someone (also, I’m socially awkward and ugly af)
You deserve so much better than to settle down and get married and have kids at 20!! Mom's pressure is probably coming from a weird biological place of her own (wanting grandkids). I'm sorry you're going through that. I wish you the best in your childfree life!!
Load More Replies...I have 2 amazing kids. They were both very much wanted and I haven't regretted them for a second. That being said, if you don't want kids, for the love of all that is holy, please don't have them. It's true that they take over your life. Every single decision and plan I make has to be done with my kids in mind. That's a recipe for resentment for anyone who isn't 100% on board.
I totally agree with you, but there is one thing- wanting to have kids and your fantasty about having them is usually very much different from reality. I guess you may want to have kids with all your heart and still you cannot preparaty or imagine what is’s gonna be like with your first child. I guess you may have second thoughts no matter how much you wanted a child.
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