30 Of The Most Brilliant Things People Realized In Therapy That They Felt Everyone Should Know About
Going to therapy can be a wonderful step in taking care of your mental health and learning healthy coping mechanisms. Sometimes, all we need is an unbiased, outside perspective to help us work through trauma, sort out our fears and uncertainties and remind us that we are enough just the way we are. I often leave a therapy session feeling 10 pounds lighter than I did an hour prior, as I’ve been reminded that I don’t have to let stress be a massive burden on my shoulders.
But the thing about therapy is that we don’t all have the time, money or resources available to go. It can be incredibly expensive if not covered by insurance, difficult to squeeze into your schedule, and finding a therapist who you mesh with can be a long and arduous process. That’s why it’s so great when people pass along the wisdom and life lessons they’ve gleaned from their therapists!
Down below, we’ve got a list of some of the best knowledge Reddit users have heard from therapy, as well as an interview we were lucky enough to receive from Randy Withers, LCMHC. This article may not be as effective as a weekly one-on-one session while laying on a chaise longue, but there are still plenty of insightful words that can give you a fresh perspective. Be sure to upvote the advice you would have paid money for, and let us know in the comments if you’ve ever learned any golden nuggets of wisdom from therapy. Then if you’d like to have even more free therapy, check out this Bored Panda article next!
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The fact that you are high functioning doesn't mean that your illness is easier for you to deal with, it means it's easier for others to deal with.
Lots of us are right there with you. Hugs all around!
Load More Replies...I have high functioning autism, but for me that means I'm not taken seriously and a lot of people (including healthcare professionals) don't believe I need the help/resources that other autistic people get. It feels invalidating and lonely.
That is why the term 'high functioning' should be banned. It makes others (even medical staff) think that you don't need (or deserve) any help. Assisted functioning would be so much more descriptive.
Load More Replies...High function ADHD with a side of anxiety and an eating disorder here. I needed this.
Clinical anxiety is no joke. Sometimes I still worry about whether all I am is a nuisance to loved ones and strangers alike based on that alone. Then, I remember I am much more than a lack of certain brain chemicals and it does help!
This is...shockingly true. Told my boss what I'm dealing with (complex ptsd) the other day for the first time and she said she would have had no idea. I struggle daily. But I hide it well.
This so resonates with me. Am deeply depressed/affected by the weight of the world. I hide it very, very well! The only place I feel I can freely talk about the heavy despair I feel is with my therapist. At night I curl up with the dogs. With my husband, friends and family I mainly listen and cheer them on. The minutiae is a solace, the birds, the faces of the flowers in the early mornings and the groggy bees. I try so hard to find joy in these small things to fill the void in my heart.
Upvote. Upvote for every one of us struggling with the 'high functioning' version whatever illness we have.
I hate it when you tell someone ur neurodivergent and they go ‘u hide it so well!’ Like it’s a good thing. It’s not it jsut makes it worse for me so ur not uncomfy.
But take this on a bit - 'high functioning autism' - does that mean you don't need any help, any allowances for not understanding what's going on? Used to be called 'Asperger's' but is now commonly used when those with the issue can 'function' in society, sometimes barely, but never 'high' functioning.
No, it doesn't mean you don't need help. This is my son. In my experience it means he can do and handle most things a neurotypical person can, which is awesome, but when he does get overstimulated or agitated or otherwise need a quiet space alone to self-regulate, he often doesn't get it. And if he has a meltdown, he's seen as violent, aggressive, and undisciplined instead of in need of help.
Load More Replies...To gain more insight on this topic, we reached out to Randy Withers, LCMHC. Randy is a Board-Certified and Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in private practice in North Carolina. He is also the Managing Editor of Blunt Therapy, a blog about mental health. Randy was kind enough to shine some light on the topic of therapy, and noted that although it can be an incredibly useful tool, "Therapy is not, in fact, for everyone."
"People with certain types of developmental disorders, certain types of psychotic disorders, and people with Narcissistic and Antisocial Personality Disorders are often not appropriate for therapy," Randy explained. "People who are forced to go to therapy don't tend to get good results from it, either. Having said that, it is fair to say that the vast majority of adolescents and adults can benefit tremendously from therapy, if for no other reason than people tend to benefit from the strong sense of social connection that therapy provides."
When my sweetheart of 43 years was diagnosed with stage IV cancer I gave up everything to care for her. Overwhelmed with grief and exhaustion, I found myself having suicidal thoughts. I sought counseling.
One evening I had a thought that felt like a solenoid firing in my brain:
"Just because the love of my life could be dying, that doesn't mean I have to stop living."
I started building in mini-vacations every day. Play music. Ride a motorcycle. Fly a drone. Tell a joke.
We both survived.
Glad OP took care of himself. When one partner has dementia, the caregivers partner is much more likely to die first due to added stress and lack of self care. I assume this can hold true for other diseases as well.
“You do not have to attend every argument you are invited to.” Best advice ever 💜
they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
Load More Replies..."You can't reason someone out of an position that they didn't get reasoned into."
However, when you 'avoid' arguments by never replying, or by walking out rather than address the issue, then this is not 'always' good advice.
Lord, I wish someone had sad that to me 70 years ago, but it’s never too late to learn. Thanks you.
Randy also opened up with Bored Panda about some of his own experiences with therapy. "I have struggled with depression, anxiety, and post traumatic stress for most of my adult life. I have seen several different therapists, and most have have been quite helpful. For me, a good therapist provides much-needed insight, education, and support," he noted.
"I like to process life issues with my current therapist, Kim. I appreciate getting a neutral but informed point of view about whatever it is that I'm processing with her. Some therapists have literally saved my life. It's one of the reasons I got into this field."
Sometimes, when we procrastinate, it's because we need to feel control, even when the only thing we can control is choosing not to do something - even when it contributes to making our situation worse. Took me years to come to terms with that one.
There are reasons why we procrastinate. Once we find out the why and stop beating us up about it, many tasks become easier, more doable. I had a fair amount of coaching sessions about it. i still procrastinate and always will, but much less and no longer to point of self-sabotage.
I started to read this; maybe I'll finish it later? I'll get back to it, possibly.
On the to do list for every day, put in one additional item: "Leave at least one task undone."
When I start the negative self talk, I was told to pretend I am talking to my wonderful and sweet 5yo little boy. I could never say the s**t I say to myself to my son. The therapist told me to envision someone telling my boy what I say to myself and how would I react. It was eye opening as to how we are our own worst boogeyman.
I heard a variation on this. Imagine Donald Trump is saying all the negative things. It's so much easier to tell him where to go!
really gets old to hear people dumping all their negativity on one person--wanted to downvote you for that, but replying instead
Load More Replies...I read a story about someone whose boss had a “No Self Bullying” sign. After making a mistake and being hard on him/herself the boss showed the sign again and said “I don’t tolerate bullying of any kind” (or something on that order). This is up there with the “today I’m not going to ‘should’ all over myself” sign at my old therapist’s office.
I used to tell my abusive partner, "address me as if I am a work colleague. Use at least that level of courtesy. That's the minimum."
Be careful to make a habit of positive self-talk instead. For me, remembering that God created me exactly the way He wants me and that my past does not and will never define me helps immensely.
One thing I noticed from reading the responses on this Reddit post was that many people mentioned how a therapist can say something incredibly insightful that suddenly seems like it should have been obvious all along. So we asked Randy if he could explain this experience a bit. "This can happen for a number of reasons, but what I tend to see is that people tend to have assumptions that guide their thinking. Many of us never bother to challenge these assumptions and are awestruck when we realize how our thinking contributes to our anxiety and depression," he explained.
"I've noticed that for many of my male clients, they are so busy trying to please their wives or girlfriends that they are shocked to discover that their feelings and needs actually matter, too," Randy noted. "It is amazing to me how many men never realize such a basic truth. People also tell things to therapists that they have literally never told anyone else. Secrets are toxic, and simply relieving oneself of that burden is by itself an impactful experience for most of my clients."
"Our minds can be dangerous weapons, especially if we don't know how to use them," he added. "Our brains are hardwired to focus on the negative. Most of us don't realize just how much suffering our thoughts cause us."
that my past trauma and upbringing aren't excuses for my bad behavior, and i have to be the one to break the cycle
I think it's crazy all the problems people have that are really from childhood trauma. I've been on a sort of emotional self journey. Lots to unpack there. Just because you come from a crazy family does not mean you have to carry on that tradition. I hope to be the one to break the cycle in my family. I'm pretty much doing the exact opposite of how I was raised. I don't want my kids to ever feel the way I did.
I did this too! When I told my mom I was pregnant, she said "what do you know about raising a kid" to which I replied, "well I know how NOT to raise them!' 😁
Load More Replies...Right? It's called CHOICES. Yeah, we had kind of a crappy childhood, it still doesn't excuse your narcissistic / completely self absorbed behavior - sister I no longer speak to.
For me, my family caused me toxic upbringing of what they said to me as a child and as a adult ... like that I wasn't good enough or doing enough for the family when growing up ... and when I was older, they said that I was mentally incompetent from a head injury and not able to make mature decisions with my life esp if I decide to get married to a woman they didn't approve of ... when do I get to choose who I love if I let my family decide? So I got married with the woman I loved without their approval !!! It's my life not theirs !!! 😁😛
The brain isn't designed to keep us happy. It's designed to keep us alive.
Not even. It's designed to keep a stoneage hunter/gatherer in a tribe of 200 alive.
This is true. Husmn evolution is not even close to catching up to the world we live in.
Load More Replies...Seeing my mental illnesses through the lens of them being adaptations to keep me alive, rather than as adversaries, has made it a little easier to live with them.
Yeah my brain has a significant design flaw and has chosen violence and attempts to kill me often via my immune system. Such a jerk 🙄
Quite true, but one of the ways it keeps you alive is by releasing chemicals that make you feel good when you do things that tend to keep you alive. Foods in nature, that are sweet and tasty, are less apt to poison you; being close to others and belonging to a group protects you, etc. But it is so easy to create things that feel "good" in modern civilization, even if they are not necessarily good for you, that the system has become dysfunctional. And we have confused feeling "good" with being "happy".
We also asked Randy if there were any particularly insightful things he's been told by therapists that stuck with him. "Years ago, a therapist told me resentment is like drinking poison and expecting someone else to die. That stuck with me," he shared. "Many adolescents need to hear that their parents' divorce was not their fault. So do survivors of domestic violence, abuse, and sexual assault. For whatever reason, victims of these types of crimes tend to feel an enormous amount of guilt and shame."
"But in general, the one thing I think everyone needs to hear is 'You matter. A lot.'," Randy added.
People's actions towards you are a reflection of themselves, not you.
Right?! There's a balance and a lot of the reaction is our responsibility too...people forget that sometimes because it's easier to blame others. But I do understand that it's making the point that sometimes people are just arseholes and that's on THEM.
Load More Replies...Something I heard which greatly affected the way I am... "What others think of you is none of your business."
This one is really helpful for me. I’ve spent so much energy blaming myself for behaviors my grown kids have. While I know I wasn’t perfect, no one is, I know I worked extremely hard to bring them up in a loving and supportive family. I’m working on letting go f the guilt.
So are my actions towards another people reflection of their actions towards me.
No, your actions towards other people reflect you.
Load More Replies...So true! As Maya Angelou said, ‘when someone shows you who they are, believe them.’
Your internal monologue isn’t always reliable, especially when you are anxious or depressed.
It really was a revelation to me when I finally realized that I didn't have to believe every thought that popped into my head.
Randy also wanted to remind readers that therapy is not an immediate cure for any of our issues or struggles. "Therapy requires a lot of work outside the session to be impactful," he told Bored Panda. "Talking to a therapist without making behavioral and lifestyle changes is like talking to a personal trainer and then not going to the gym. It's never a waste of time, but you'll get so much more out of it if you do the work."
If you'd like to hear more wise words from Randy, be sure to visit Blunt Therapy's website right here.
Give yourself permission to grieve.
Not just for the loss of loved ones, but for anything that makes you feel sad.
Don't tell someone the day they get bad news all the things they should be saying to themselves in order to cope. I found out I have almost no cartilage left in my right knee, which impacts pretty much every plan I have made in the past year of making huge strides in having something other than misery in my life for the first time in 25 years. It affects how I make friends, my activities, where I live, whether to move to another state, which car to purchase, my finances, the thought it might not be too late to have good energetic sex (which I've never had), etc. People were trying to give me the old, "Well, on the bright side," immediately. DON'T DO THAT! I needed a few days to grieve for a big loss of potential life.
What's Your Grief is a site that has a ton of resources and information on grieving, different kinds of loss, etc. I give it to everyone who has experienced loss, after it helped me with the death of my mom.
"When we are in grief we are thrown into a dark room, a dark night and we are searching for the switch to turn on the light. Others from the outside of the room may ask us to turn on the light. But, of course, it’s not that simple." There's a very soothing but powerful podcast interview of Dr. Edith Eger (a psychologist and a Holocaust survivor) by David Kessler (a grief counseling expert and author). It helped me a lot in my grieving process after my dad's sudden death.
The stronger the bond, the harder the grief but time does heal all wounds just stop picking the wound open, let it heal.
I lost my sister in 1991. We didn't even like each other. I'll still hurt. Time didn't heal a da*n thing. I just learned to live with the pain. And scabs, btw, often encase nasty infections, so opening the wound may be necessary to healing ----- to use your metaphor, and real-life experience.
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The five-minute rule. Try something you usually enjoy but don't currently have the motivation to do for five minutes. Set a timer; if you're not enjoying it after five minutes, it's okay to stop. A five-minute challenge seems way more doable when you're unwell than longer ones.
It does. I do a lot of my cleaning and tidying in 3 minute slots when I make tea. 2-3 minutes for the water to boil, 3+ minutes to stew. I don't do all the washing up, I do a bit, and a bit with the next cup and start the laundry. and hang the laundry. (I have a lot of cups of tea during a day :-) )
Load More Replies...That's unrealistic for a great many things. You can't sew for just 5 min, nor can you bungee jump or paint or read a book for 5 min and find out if it's for you. BUT it's great for many others: If you have trouble cleaning, 5 min are a great thing, you'll do more than expected (there's an app/site that helped me with that, "unf[ilth] your habitat", with small tasks for small time frames). If you want to get used to crowds, 5 min in a shopping centre will get you started. Basically, whatever you try once can help you find your way.
Yea except when the thing you like doing requires an hour and a half to set up to do for five minutes… (painting)
Do the things you don't like to do first, the things that you do like to do will be even more fun.
This is dumb. If the issue is motivation, timeboxing it to 5 minutes is not going to suddenly fix whatever is causing the lack of motivation.
I think you are missing the point. A lot of times we think we won't enjoy something but then once we are involved in it, then we realize we want to continue. Edit: I am up voting you to balance out a downvote. I don't think you deserve to be downvoted (and possibly banned) for expressing an opinion.
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When you place unexpressed expectations on someone, YOU are the one setting yourself up to be let down.
I heard a great variation of this: Unexpressed expectations are just resentments under construction.
UGH - my ex husband. He honestly believed that his happiness was MY responsibility, ie: if he wasn't happy, it was my fault. Talk about a cowardly cop-out. We went to 3 different marriage counselors because they all agreed with me and told him he needed to take responsibility for himself. Yeah, there's a reason he's an EX.
We often do lots of favours (perhaps not even asked for) for someone and expect they'll do the same for us. They may not have even noticed what we have done. You have to tell people what you're doing for them and what time, effort etc it costs you. They may not want you to do that but if they do you can ask them to help you in return but you can't expect them to notice that you need help. All of this builds resentment and gnaws away at you..
I think this is true in general. But there are some thing that you should not HAVE to express, and you will feel resentful if you have to express them. Such as, expecting a stepfather to take interest in their new stepson, such as finding out what grade they are in, when is their bedtime, do they have any friends?
Personally, I've always had wonderful experiences in therapy, but I understand that it's not possible for everyone. So today, we'll settle for "trickle-down therapy" online. Be sure to upvote all of the responses that resonate with you, and feel free to share more insightful words you've gleaned from therapy in the comments below. Let's prioritize our mental health, pandas! Then, if you want to check out another Bored Panda article featuring advice from therapists that might give you a fresh perspective, we recommend reading this piece next.
No one sees the version of you that you see of yourself.
We think much less of ourselves than others do. We see all of our faults in living colour and others see all of our virtues that way. Even physically we look in the mirror and can only see that tiny spot on our cheek, everyone else see the beauty and don't notice the spot. See the bigger picture, others don't think about your cringe and don't remember it and when they do think about you they'll remember how good you made them feel. Sometimes you have to forcefully remind yourself of this - try thinking about another random person to reassure yourself this is true..
"'You' is just one of the things your brain does." - Ken Campbell
Friends will come and go. Family, in different ways, can and will do the same.
You're the only constant youre going to have in your life.
Be a friend to yourself. You wouldnt say any of the negative things to your friends that you say to yourself.
Learn to pick yourself up when you're down, but also allow yourself to be human.
It's difficult, but it's one of the most important things I've learned in my life as someone who suffers from Major Depression Disorder, and who beat himself up way more than I should have.
It's much harder to be forgiving with yourself than with other people. Most people don't remember your mistakes, why should your hold onto them?
This is exactly true. I am still beating myself over things that happened over 40 years ago up to two days ago. I'm taking medication which helps, but the best tools I've used when it gets too much for the meds to handle are the ones I got in therapy a few years ago.
Load More Replies...Sidenote triggered by the first sentence: a family member that only makes your life harder can just as well be unfriended as anyone else. The fact that you share some genes doesn't give someone the right to be an a**e.
This one for everything! Coming from a deep alcohol fueled depression and now..better. it was all me there, alone, to decide.
My psychologist told me that learning new skills and knowledge, or establishing a new habit, creates a new neural pathway in your brain. It's like hacking your way through a jungle; it takes a lot of time, effort, and energy to reach your destination (or achieve your goal). However, every time you do the thing, you reinforce that same neural pathway in your brain. As it is reinforced it becomes easier to fire up those neurons again, and thus, it becomes easier to do the thing. The jungle is still dense, but it is a little easier to follow the same path that you created yesterday, and every time you take that path it becomes a little more clear. Eventually the behaviour may become so automatic that it requires no effort at all to follow that path.
With respect to breaking a habit, or overcoming addiction: it takes serious effort to stray from your path, once it is established. Taking a new path means hacking through thick jungle again, but this time it requires even more effort because you know you could just follow the old, established path.
This analogy has helped me quit smoking, study for exams, and establish a walking routine when I was too depressed to move. If all you get out of doing the hard thing is the benefit of having done the hard thing one time, it hardly seems worth the effort. It's tempting to put it off until later. But if every successful attempt to do the hard thing makes that path easier to follow, it really is worth starting now. The reward is not just the infinitesimally small health benefits of 10 more minutes without smoking; the reward is actually proportional to the effort put in, because that is how much progress you have made towards your goal. Taking the easy path started to seem like a really dumb idea. Stubbornness kicked in and I started achieving goals.
This is also one reason why addictions are so hard to break. Not only is that pathway ingrained, but there's usually a reward (drinking, smoking, etc).
Exactly. Receptors form in the reward centre of the brain. Eg Nicotine receptors, endorphins, ( the ‘feel good hormone,’ for: chocolate, alcohol, drugs, the euphoria of eg. ‘a runner’s high,’ sugar, love, sex, thrill seeking, eg. Sky diving.’ Shopping, gambling.. etc. etc
Load More Replies...This is a great metaphor for addiction. When I quit drinking my main motivation was pure spite. Like most addicts, when someone told me “ you can’t (whatever)” my response was the very typical “wanna bet?” So when I told myself “I can’t stay sober” I followed up with “f**k you I’ll be sober just to spite you”. It’s a bit weird, but it works. Returning to the jungle metaphor I suppose I could have toned my spite down a bit and said “ f**k this road, I’m going this way”.
I like to think about it like a ski slope... Tracks get deeper the more we use them, but if we actively deviate, new snow will eventually start to fill them in...
Hypnosis gives you a much sharper machete to hack through that jungle. It's more fun too!
Progress, not perfection
Nobody is perfect, nobody well, except me, even my mistakes are perfect mistakes.../just kidding...
I knew a perfectionist and after a long enough time of everything not being perfect she had psychotic break and has spent the last 10 years institutionalized.
Yes. One of my favorite quotes is this sound on tiktok. It's a motivational speaker and he says "Practice and Practice and Practice and Practice. Practice makes what?" And the audience says "Perfect" and he goes "Absolutely not. Get rid of that mindset. Practice makes progress." I think about that quote a lot
That my mental illness isn’t my fault, but it is my responsibility.
I'm a Special Ed teacher...I think it depends. I think that as a teen / young adult / adult, you should try to learn about yourself and your disability. You should take responsibility for understanding your triggers / issues / limitations and be able to either handle things yourself or voice your needs to others. For example, I knew a woman with Autism who would put herself in overstimulating situations, freak out, and then complain instead of just doing what she needed to do for herself. This is such a very broad answer to a very complicated question, so take what you will from it.
Load More Replies...My ex was bi-polar. When he got mad at me he went off his meds (Yeah, that'll teach me). He taught me straight into a divorce less than a year after we got married.
I was feeling a lot of pressure and guilt from my mom because she wanted me to do something for her that I really didn't want to do. One of my therapists (who heard a lot about my relationship with my mom) made a simple statement that really helped:
"If your mom wants you to do things for her, maybe she should be nicer to you."
It sounds so obvious, but because of mom's continuously using guilt to raise me and my siblings to feel shame, I had a hard time saying no.
This little idea really turned things around for me, not just between me and my mom, but also for other people in my life who like to treat me badly and keep expecting me to come back for more.
One of the most profound things my therapist ever said to me with regard to my mother's "crazy, guilty tripping, throwing things I had told her in confidence back in my face, cruelty, etc" was most enlightening, especially since I had children by then. She said: What would a good mother (or parent) do/have done? That changed how I viewed how she'd treated me differently, knowing I'd not ever do that to my own children.
People who honestly love you don't try to manipulate you, guilt trip you or play emotional blackmail. People who honestly love you want only the best for you, not what's best for them.
There are few things that will make me lose respect for a person faster than getting a guilt trip from them. It's underhanded emotional manipulation and slimy behavior.
“You can watch people on their rollercoaster, you don’t have to ride it with them” Works for all kinds of people/relationships in your life making things dramatic. This was said to me by a therapist almost 10 years ago and I still think about it all the time. It really helps put things in perspective.
I've always heard a different one but it has the same vibe. "Not my circus, not my monkeys."
I have a postcard that says "Not my circus, not my monkeys. MY monkeys fly." 😂
Load More Replies...I need this on a big poster/that I can carry around in front of my eyes all day long, every day.
I worked with a guy that was an absolute drama queen, EVERYTHING was just so extreme. I wasn't in the mood for his sh*t one day and exploded at him "I am really not up for your level of crazy today, so just shut the f*ck up, ok?" No one had ever called him out before. Yes, he was completely embarrassed and no, I didn't care. It kept him away from me.
*”Neither the past, present or future can be changed through my overthinking.”*
I don’t agree with this. Of course, I have been called an over-thinker. I think it’s a good thing to think things out, much better than the people who choose not to think too much. By thinking about a problem and how it might be resolved you can change the trajectory of your future path and make life better for yourself. Maybe those who complain about people like me don’t think deeply enough. Which is to say, maybe they don’t think with the goal of finding an answer, just in thinking how bad they feel?
I think what they are referring to is not the constructive problem solving you are talking about, but rather rumination and worrying.
Load More Replies...I don’t have to try to attack every negative feeling. Sometimes it’s okay to just be like “oh, hey sadness, I see ya” or “oh, alright panic, run your course while I finish doing what I’m doing.” Acceptance therapy was the most powerful thing I ever did. CBT, self-talk... it made me worse. Learning to just acknowledge the emotion and move on with my life was life-changing.
It's important to accept your feelings, while also realising that they don't control you. You can feel anger without acting on it. You can be happy, while also supporting a grieving friend. You can be sad, and cry, but don't have to suffocate in sadness. It's a balancing act, like so much else in life...
Weirdly, the goal of therapy with CBT/DBT/ self-talk does have a goal of acceptance in my experience. "Ah, I feel panic. OK. Well, then. On with the next step in whatever I'm doing, taking the panic into account" sort of thing.
100% agree with this, I was the same. It was a Buddhist nun that finally made me accept to sit with sadness and it's ok! 😊 CBT really set me back
I think that's what my therapist was trying to get me to do without actually explaining what it was... It ended up with me having so much anxiety I cried my eyes out thru the whole appointment. I had three appointments with her. She also pressured me into more appointments and I had to get my mom to call her and cancel it. I'm seeing a psychiatrist soon and hopefully that will be better
Load More Replies...https://www.recreateyourlife.com/free/ Absolutely the best and fastest way to realize your thoughts are not "you" and be able to release them at a VERY deep level
I have had a long time issue (10+ years) of what I now know is negative intrusive thoughts. I thought I was a monster for getting these thoughts to hurt myself and other people all the time. I suppressed them for a long time and accepted the fact the I was a bad person who was eventually going to do something awful one day. I never asked for help due to the fear of being discovered as a freak and in my head it was better to live with being a freak than ask anyone and risk being found out. I later tried to commit s**cide and even after that I couldn't tell a therapist how I was feeling and the full story of why I tried to commit s**cide. Skip forward a couple of years and while my depression had gotten a bit better, the thoughts were as bad as ever. I got into an argument with my parents and in a heated moment I told them how I get the urge to hurt myself and other people on a day to day basis. After a long talk I found a different therapist and went on a different anti depressant which helps treat OCD. It turned out that these thoughts aren't abnormal and don't make me a freak, I just got them more than most people and they could be managed. My therapist gave me the best advice I still try to follow on a day to day basis. Be more generous to yourself. I spent so much of my life thinking I was a monster and a freak that had no chance of being normal, that I never let myself feel good because I didn't deserve it. I am learning to be kind to myself and allow myself to enjoy my successes and to not beat myself up over my failures. It's harder than it sound to not hate yourself when you have for so long, but I just have to remind myself that I need to treat myself with as much value and respect I give to other people at a minimum. Hopefully my story can help someone else who needs it.
A loved one has OCD, and for a long time he had lots of dark, destructive and anxious thoughts that played over and over in his mind, and tortured him. He too thought he was am awful person. His therapist told him that we all have dark, etc. thoughts, but the “door” in our brain is mostly closed. The door in someone with OCD is wide open. That helped him a lot, along with learning ways to deal with the thoughts. He’s way better now.
I have OCD too, and wish to find the key to open this fricking door. The last time it opened, another OCD came in. It's so hard. This one is worse. My therapist does not find solutions to it, and I'm fighting these alone. But I'm happy for everyone who manage to get ride of OCD.Really
Load More Replies...It takes a lot of courage to share your story. Thank you. I am so happy you have the help you need to realize that you are good! Self hatred is a very dark and agonizing place to be. We all have intrusive or unwanted thoughts but when they take over it’s important to realize that you are a passenger on a train that is sweeping you along you are able to understand that you can have the power to feel better and whole! That you deserve to feel good! That it will be OK. Mental illness affects 1/4 people in their lifetime. I have major depression. Nearly succeeded with ending my life, ( lengthy hospital stay and almost didn’t make it twice). With medication, therapy have reached a better place… Sometimes it creeps up-what my therapist taught me was to learn to snap out of it, eg rumination, panicking, by cluing into what is around and eg. finding everything that is the colour green. Deep breathing also helps to calm the parasympathetic response, ( heightened flight or fight).
I’m so glad you got the help you needed. I have a feeling a lot of us treat ourselves badly and that’s really sad.
It's difficult if you have scdl and hmcdl ideation. It can get very close. The risk of talking about it is either not being believed and then carrying it thru OR being believed and being forcibly committed (and not having the feelings addressed anyway) If you are fortunate enough to get a forensic psychologist who will work with you then this can be helped - making plans to secure yourself from being able to carry out the harm against others and treatment to help with the self harm. The relief in knowing you have stopped these feelings is amazing. I feel that all too often they aren't taken seriously enough..
Sometimes the healthiest thing is to walk away
I turned and walked out on a supervisor once. He caught up with me and basically asked WTF? I told him straight up, "you just keep repeating the problem and blaming me for it instead of offering a solution. I don't need all that negativity". Most people would have been fired, but I was an outside contractor and he didn't have the authority to do that. Just him up right quick, though.
An important question. Are you just afraid and avoid a situation or do you decide to end a situation by walking away?
I was going on about something an ex had done that hurt me. I backpedaled a bit and said something like "I want to give them the benefit of the doubt." My therapist said, "Hey. I'm going to stop you there. I've noticed that you give EVERYONE the benefit of the doubt. Except for yourself. You have to be kind to yourself, you know?" Blew my freaking mind. Started bawling my eyes out, really freed me in a way.
Not everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt. That's what abusers count on.
We seek what is familiar to us, even if it’s really unhealthy. There is a comfort in familiarity because it’s what we know / learned how to deal with.
Hearing this from my therapist has helped me break the cycle of dating men who are narcissistic. If it's comfortable, it's because my idea of 'comfortable' is being treated like dogshit.
You look for the familiar because you can't imagine that a change could be better.
My state testing essay was 90% Taylor swift lyrics lol
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That you can’t control how people act towards you, but you can control how you react to them.
It’s something I use with my 9 and 6 year old to help them and it’s so effective.
People can only hurt you emotionally if you care what they think. You give them the powe and can thus take it away. Realized this in 9th grade.
I can't really agree. If they seem to confirm your bad opinion of yourself, they don't have to mean anything to you, because YOU are the one who hurt yourself in the first place. Not caring is a luxury only people with a stable self-worth can really afford, for others it's hard work to even act like they don't care, much less feel it.
Load More Replies...Yes! My then 5 yo said 'I HATE YOU' to me once and I just replied that was OK because I still loved her. She was gobsmacked. Lol
I was talking to my therapist about how I absorb the moods of my husband and children. It was near impossible for me to be happy if even one of them was in a bad mood. My therapist told me that they do not have to be okay for me to be okay. This was life-changing to me, one of those moments when time slows down because you can finally see through the fog. My husband can be in a bad mood because of work, and I can be okay. My pre-teen son can be a moody kid, and I can be okay. Recognizing this has already started to transform my relationships.
Being okay when loved ones are not is an advantage when you are trying to help them be okay.
Yet i feel responsible if my husband is unfriendly to our child when he is in a bad mood
Load More Replies...Being okay when they're not can also set the tone, as when your toddler trips and waits to see if you freak out so he can tell whether he should.
I suffer that at work a lot. I pick up far too much on other people's moods.
My needs and wants are valid and worth voicing
That I needed to forgive myself for past childhood trauma.
It sounds stupid but we Cary that s**t for the rest of our lives.
Forgiveness is easier said than done, and easier done to others than yourself.
That we're all f****d up in some way, and it's not worth beating yourself up thinking you're some kind of monster. Acceptance of this was huge to me.
Shame is not a good motivator. When you beat yourself up for making a mistake, all it does is make you feel worse. To truly improve, you have to be kind to yourself.
That's because we take on shame as an identity. The difference between guilt and shame is that guilt says "I made a mistake" and shame says "I am a mistake." And if we believe that we are a mistake then we just give up.
It’s probably pretty obvious but it wasn’t for me. She said that not everything is either “good” or “bad”, but there are a lot of things that are just neutral. For example, saying “no” to a person’s request is not bad, it’s just neutral. I was so used to seeing everything in black and white that I had never even considered this.
You have a limited amount of energy and time in any given day — and you get to choose where you place that energy. Think of it like chips at a roulette table. When I feel angry thoughts about a news article, hear an opinion I disagree with, come across an asshole driving on the freeway...all of these things take energy, my chips, which are an extremely limited resource. Place your chips wisely. I stop myself many times a day from using mine now, and I’m much happier.
This is awesome. I like this better than the bank account illustration.
Before going to therapy, I felt it was their job to solve my problems and I would be better. I was wrong. They’re there to talk me through it and give me the tools to deal with them myself. I learned nobody can fix my problems except me. I can blame everyone all I want, but at the end of the day it’s my responsibility to be willing and to make an effort to fix myself. Now whenever I start getting anxiety or stress or anything, I have the tools to walk myself through it and not rely on others. It’s nice to have someone to help or talk to, but it’s up to me to change how I view things and act in response.
People aren't nearly as concerned about everything I'm doing as I think they are. They're busy enough being self conscious about their own behaviors.
Try to remember anything embarrassing about your friends. Most things will be gone, right? That's how little people remember your most embarrassing moments.
Separate anxious thoughts from reality. Instead of “I’m a terrible person” say, “I am having a thought that I am a terrible person.”
Recognize that your thoughts are not reality. They are just _stories_. That's what I tell myself when I catch myself in the act of negative self-thinking: "Oh look, I'm telling myself stories again."
How does this continue, what is the process, I really want to know the process
It's called "defusion." Look up Dr. Russ Harris on Youtube to learn more. He's the developer of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy.
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Other people's opinions of you are NOT facts
t's said that women are about relationships, and men are about things. After menopause, I stopped giving a d@mn what other people think of me. I guess I've become more like a man - there's peace in that.
Sometimes ending a relationship is better than trying to heal one
Attempting to save some relationships is like trying CPR at the autopsy.
you can walk away. you can say no. you don’t have to do anything you don’t want to, be with anyone you don’t want to be with. it’s okay to choose yourself
The oxygen mask concept. Basically you have to put on your own “mask” first by improving your mental health and doing what’s best for you before you can assist others and help them with their lives. Really made me take a step back from getting involved in other people’s problems because it wouldn’t benefit me or my health.
Routine really is the best way to get out of some depressive episodes. I had a good job and some good work friends around me, but I just wasn't happy. However I was working from home and just getting up and working and then finishing for the day, but when I decided to get up earlier and get dressed and have something to eat, I enjoyed my job a bit more than before
i forget who created this, but the “even though, nevertheless” method helped me out a lot. i still remember it in my every day life. example: even though my room is a mess, nevertheless, i kept myself clean and showered today. it’s taking a negative thought or something you’re upset about, and contradicting it with something you can be happy about.
That maybe the only thing wrong with you is being convinced that there’s something wrong with you.
That's interesting. I have come across mostly people on the other end of the spectrum, extremely unwell but determined to bull through.
I remember learning about this really neat thought experiment. First, think about the most embarrassing thing that's happened to you. Don't think too long or hard, just come up with something. Now, think of a close person in your life and imagine the most embarrassing thing that's happened to them. The second one takes a lot longer. We all think about ourselves - and critique ourselves - way more than we do to others.
Don't judge your feelings, just try to understand where they're coming from. Judge your actions.
Every past version of yourself is an ancestor you need to honor.
Oh wow… didn’t expect this one to hit quit so well but, it is weird how looking at it this way lets my mind actually consider self-acceptance
Sometimes we don't realize just how far we've come. I used to have days when I woke up and my first thought was why didn't I die in my sleep today. But I made it through that phase. When I feel awful about myself, just thinking about that sometimes gives me courage.
True without them you would not be here. This reminds me of the reasoning that if you cringe at memories of how you behaved in the past that just shows how you have grown as a person.
Closure does not and can not come from other people. It grows from within you. Only you can give yourself closure.
You have to communicate. Keeping it bottled up is not going to solve the problem. -hf
That it wasn’t my fault. I got bullied hard for a year in grade school. Basically, teacher didn’t give any f***s, so kids teed off on me literally every day until I ran out of the class screaming. I lived 18 years after that having internalized that 1) this was entirely my fault and 2) I am a monster waiting to explode. It wasn’t until I was working with a therapist when I was like 28 or so that she said to me “you know all that wasn’t your fault, right” and it hit me like a sack of bricks. I had literally fully internalized it as a gigantic flaw in me, and it’s only been in the last few years I’ve been able to start actually healing from it.
The “I” vs “You” method. When explaining your feelings to someone instead of saying YOU did this, this, and this and it’s all your fault. Instead, you opt for I, I don’t like when you said _____ because it made me feel like ________ .
But on the other hand, how is the other person's responsibility the way you feel? It's a genuine question
It's not their responsibility, this is a way of dealing with conflict. But the assumptizis that they care about how you feel. So instead of going into attack mode, which puts the other person in defensive mode, go with "I feel". You're just explaining how something made you feel, not telling them what they did or what they meant.
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We have all come from a long line of generational trauma, bad coping skills passed on and on. It feels good to break the cycle, to give your children better
You’re not crazy, you’re just a sane person reacting to a crazy world.
You are not crazy. You are having a normal reaction to an abnormal situation.
If you take good thoughts with a grain of salt why not also take the bad with a grain of salt? Hear it, recognize it, and let it leave.
Remember that change is inevitable. Nothing ever stays the same. The only constant in life is change. Some changes are swift and brutal for example bereavement. Others are more subtle like the changing seasons. So with this in mind I've always loved Arnold Bennett's quote... That any change, even a change for the better is always accompanied with setbacks and discomfort.
"As in nature, what does not bend with the wind, will break." Everything in nature is in a constant state of motion or growth. "Walk as if each step is a prayer to the Earth". Yet human nature resists change, even changes made for the better can give us great anxiety!
Not everything you think is true.
Saying No to stuff doesn’t need to be backed up with an excuse.
The 2 most effective antidepressants for me are excercise and nature.
Daily aerobic exercise does wonders for mood boosting and stabilizing. Whoever figures out how to make a pill out of exercise will be rich.
Two opposite things can be true at the same time. You can love and hate the same person
To think: what if things go well? It's so easy to imagine the worst, but I always feel better after also imagining things going well.
I can live with/ accept what I went through because I like where and who I am now (mostly). That was a huge success.
When asking yourself why you want or feel a certain thing or way, coming up with the answer 'I don't know' means you've found a spot to dig into.
Meditation, mindfulness, self-compassion. These are not buzzwords. They're words to live by.
Fake it until you make it is a valid way of eventually adopting healthy mindsets and perspectives. It just needs someone professional, someone detached, to basically open up that toxic living space you call your mind for you, and challenge you on the lie that'll eventually become truth is at least better than this s**thole you're choosing for yourself. Because we take a lot of f****d-up pride in living in our own self-torment.
I would say the main thing is it's practice in having a particular kind of conversation. Once I'd shared my innermost thoughts and fears with a therapist and been met with love and acceptance, I felt more able to do the same thing with other people in my life.
Just because your comfortable doesn’t mean you’re happy. Sometimes you’re happiness will be more important than your comfort and sometimes your comfort will be more important than your happiness.
Hey, hello pandas. I know sometimes it's hard, and I know I can't say "I understand" because we're all differents, and our pain too. I'm sorry if you're struggling right now. Or for days, month...years. I hope you'll get better, you're still here and that's amazing. It's okay to lash out, to cry....but don't be too hard on yourself. If you want and can, don't hesitate to ask people for help. i hope you'll find the light in this darkness. Don't give up, courage. I give big hugs to everyone here who need and want it. Take care, wonderful pandas !
i used to do anything for almost anyone and would not allow anyone to do anything for me. i was asked about the feeling it gave me to do for others. i was then told to imagine how many people i have deprived of that feeling over the years. makes me cry.
In medicine we're taught that the first rule is "you can't save everyone" all you can do is try your best. You can't give more than your best. If it doesn't work out it's because it wasn't meant to be. That philosophy applies to you. If you've tried your best to help those who cross your path then there's nothing else you could have done.
Load More Replies...I had so much anxiety about everything, but especially my high-level job. My therapist said “your job is just a gig — if you get hit by a bus, someone else will be doing it in a matter of days or weeks, or even months. Life will go on.” This gave me tremendous perspective and relief about my life and allowed me to disconnect from that overwhelming fear.
I have high-functioning depression - and no one knows. At school, I’m known as the happy, laughing girl. At home, my built up anger and sadness comes out as attitude. And I’m broken by myself. I’m a bit scared, as it’s been getting worse and I don’t know what I’ll do. I have very few motivating factors to live, which are the only things keeping me alive. Edit: it is very VERY difficult for me to open up, as it is hard for me to open up about my mental struggles.
Life gets better after school is over. And in the meantime, try to find someone you can talk to about this stuff face to face, possibly a therapist. It sometimes takes a few tries to find the right one, but when you click with one it really is worth it.
Load More Replies...Wasn't in therapy but I finally understand that the world won't end if you say no to something. Grew up with a people pleasing mom and the desire to never say no was starting to give me an anxiety problem. The sun will shine and the birds will still be singing even if you're not jumping through flaming hoops wrapped in razor wire!!
After telling my therapist in the psych ward what happened to make me break he looked at me and said: what you experienced wasn't nothing, it wasn't easy or something others just endure, it's not crazy to break down after what's happened to you and you're not abnormal in any way. In fact, I'd be seriously troubled if I ever met a person who had to endure all this that you just told me and wouldn't need therapy. Very worried indeed. It's perfectly normal to be troubled after such a difficult time and needing help! So let us help you please! And it changed my whole perspective.
I struggle with horrible depression and I take antidepressants but when I was around 17 I would refuse to take them because I “don’t need them, my dumbass brain just needs to function, I’m fine.” but in reality I thought I shouldn’t be taking the pills because I don’t deserve help and I should be able to function without them but my therapist said “it’s not your fault you need the pills, it’s not your fault your brain doesn’t want you to take the pills because you think you don’t deserve them, none of this is your fault. You have to take the pills though. And not 37 of them in one sitting, you need to take 1 every night so your mind doesn’t want you to take 37 of them at once. Needing them is ok. It’s ok to need help. It doesn’t make you weak.” and for some reason that really sat with me for years, I’m not better yet but I’m taking my pills, 1 a day, and trying my dammdest
Everything will be okay in the end, if it's not okay it's not the end.
Hey, hello pandas. I know sometimes it's hard, and I know I can't say "I understand" because we're all differents, and our pain too. I'm sorry if you're struggling right now. Or for days, month...years. I hope you'll get better, you're still here and that's amazing. It's okay to lash out, to cry....but don't be too hard on yourself. If you want and can, don't hesitate to ask people for help. i hope you'll find the light in this darkness. Don't give up, courage. I give big hugs to everyone here who need and want it. Take care, wonderful pandas !
i used to do anything for almost anyone and would not allow anyone to do anything for me. i was asked about the feeling it gave me to do for others. i was then told to imagine how many people i have deprived of that feeling over the years. makes me cry.
In medicine we're taught that the first rule is "you can't save everyone" all you can do is try your best. You can't give more than your best. If it doesn't work out it's because it wasn't meant to be. That philosophy applies to you. If you've tried your best to help those who cross your path then there's nothing else you could have done.
Load More Replies...I had so much anxiety about everything, but especially my high-level job. My therapist said “your job is just a gig — if you get hit by a bus, someone else will be doing it in a matter of days or weeks, or even months. Life will go on.” This gave me tremendous perspective and relief about my life and allowed me to disconnect from that overwhelming fear.
I have high-functioning depression - and no one knows. At school, I’m known as the happy, laughing girl. At home, my built up anger and sadness comes out as attitude. And I’m broken by myself. I’m a bit scared, as it’s been getting worse and I don’t know what I’ll do. I have very few motivating factors to live, which are the only things keeping me alive. Edit: it is very VERY difficult for me to open up, as it is hard for me to open up about my mental struggles.
Life gets better after school is over. And in the meantime, try to find someone you can talk to about this stuff face to face, possibly a therapist. It sometimes takes a few tries to find the right one, but when you click with one it really is worth it.
Load More Replies...Wasn't in therapy but I finally understand that the world won't end if you say no to something. Grew up with a people pleasing mom and the desire to never say no was starting to give me an anxiety problem. The sun will shine and the birds will still be singing even if you're not jumping through flaming hoops wrapped in razor wire!!
After telling my therapist in the psych ward what happened to make me break he looked at me and said: what you experienced wasn't nothing, it wasn't easy or something others just endure, it's not crazy to break down after what's happened to you and you're not abnormal in any way. In fact, I'd be seriously troubled if I ever met a person who had to endure all this that you just told me and wouldn't need therapy. Very worried indeed. It's perfectly normal to be troubled after such a difficult time and needing help! So let us help you please! And it changed my whole perspective.
I struggle with horrible depression and I take antidepressants but when I was around 17 I would refuse to take them because I “don’t need them, my dumbass brain just needs to function, I’m fine.” but in reality I thought I shouldn’t be taking the pills because I don’t deserve help and I should be able to function without them but my therapist said “it’s not your fault you need the pills, it’s not your fault your brain doesn’t want you to take the pills because you think you don’t deserve them, none of this is your fault. You have to take the pills though. And not 37 of them in one sitting, you need to take 1 every night so your mind doesn’t want you to take 37 of them at once. Needing them is ok. It’s ok to need help. It doesn’t make you weak.” and for some reason that really sat with me for years, I’m not better yet but I’m taking my pills, 1 a day, and trying my dammdest
Everything will be okay in the end, if it's not okay it's not the end.
