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Arguing with the anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, and climate change deniers is a heck of a job. If you've ever tried, you’ll know what I am talking about.
And even though you recognize the fallacy in their arguments, like saying that masks don’t help to stop the coronavirus, you sometimes need heavy artillery.
Luckily, some people who know what they’re talking about have done everyone a service and stepped in to school the science deniers big time. From biochemists to sport scientists, these are some of the most mic-drop moves in stopping the spread of misinformation.
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Vic 5 years ago
If they had this conversation in person, I can imagine Neil just standing with his mouth open, looking for words..
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Just a Purpler 5 years ago
I mean, our life expectancy isn't natural either. It's a result of our being smart and finding ways to extend it.
Billy The Kid 5 years ago
i have the remedy for forever life....... tea and a bacon sandwich!
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Phunny Philosopher 5 years ago
Upvote x100. Funniest thing I have heard all day. I can close the day and go to sleep now. :)
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K.Kobayashi 5 years ago
The only thing that's "necessary for our survival as a species" is for enough individuals to survive just long enough to reproduce. If every female is having 8 babies, and 2 of them survive just long enough to each produce 8 babies, the species survives.
Sam T Godfrey 5 years ago
Neil was supposed to have been born with a brain to figure out how and why... That makes us Humans too.
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Sasha Kuleshov 5 years ago
Your air pipe is poorly designed, it shares the same tube with your eating pipe XD
Louloubelle 5 years ago
I so want to see if any of these people had the nerve to try responding. It would be fabulous to see just what kind of thing they could come up with. Be like a game show.
Doggo Georgia 5 years ago
Neil.exe has been shut down and will not restart
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Marie Cadavieco 3 years ago
I think new mothers should ignore all the 'propaganda' and just leave their baby naked for the rest of his life, after all we are not born with clothes on.
Frank Kilmore 3 years ago
We should not really wear shoes...we are thwarting evolution, our feet would evolve into hooves if we did not wear shoes...
Jane Dorothy Warner 5 years ago
Neither is it natural to have all these bugs from eating what we shouldn't have, so wear the masks to save everyone.
jim peacher 5 years ago
I agree.... survival of the fittest. Dumb people without masks will make future generations smarter
joi 5 years ago
what do shoes have to do w/dude's decision to spew their effluvia wherever they please?
Mandy Carr 5 years ago
Neil stated if we needed to wear masks to keep us safe from viruses that over time and with evolution our bodies would have eventually morphed to include something similar to protect us from viruses.So Shaun replied “ Do you wear shoes?” Because if you agree with Neils logic, ie: If we needed to wear shoes, then thru the evolutionary process are bodies would have morphed us something similar to shoes as well.
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G DelRosario 5 years ago (edited)
The sad thing is to many people In ‘merica claim bs like this. They just need to open everything and let people who want to risk it get and be done or die because most people dont get it. Its sad how Americans have such disregard for their fellow humans. The at risk stay home. Its not surprising we are banned from traveling to lots of places.
Mélanie Beaupré 5 years ago
That’s so not how evolution through natural selection works. What a facepalm.
Stew Leckie 5 years ago
I just wish parents of these brilliant thinkers would have worn Condoms.
Anamaria Mazer de Toledo 5 years ago
According to Neil men will evolve to the extent to be born with a laminated penis...
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M Kate McCulloch 5 years ago
How about... pants! They are literally not necessary for your survival. I suggest you join a nudist camp, post haste! Don't forget your towel.
Tina Bobina 5 years ago
And it's not natural, either, to wear clothes, because we have hairs on our bodies, or to live in houses, because our ancestors lived in caves. Nor is it natural to use twitter, because our ancestors didn't have phones and didn't need them, either.
Simon 5 years ago (edited)
sorry, but shoes do more harm then good. they aren't necessary "fr the survival of the species" https://nymag.com/health/features/46213/
Kim Magnuson 5 years ago
No shoes, no shirt, no service....doesn't p**s neel off. Maybe he should go around porky pigging with no pants...freak
Bacony 5 years ago
No, he looks more like the cow from barnyard or whatever its called
Load More Replies... DLCSAKERS 5 years ago
Must point out that our skin makes a natural protective barrier when you go with consistent pressure and irritation to it. They are called Calluses....They are formed to protect areas of our skin that under pressure....Feet and hands of those who use them heavily are often covered with them. Natures Shoes...
Curry on... 5 years ago
Sharp and dirty objects might cause tetanus, which could lead to death, or at the least, some really serious complications.
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These days, when there are so many science deniers, it may feel like arguing with them is absolutely pointless. But a 2019 study published in the journal Nature Human Behavior showed that it’s in fact worth arguing with them.
Philipp Schmid and Cornelia Betsch of the University of Erfurt in Germany conducted six experiments with 1,773 subjects. They assessed “how to mitigate the influence of a denier on the audience.”
The results showed that “not responding to science deniers has a negative effect on attitudes towards behaviors favored by science (for example, vaccination) and intentions to perform these behaviors.”
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chi-wei shen 5 years ago
Alan Turing was praised for what he has done during war time and condemned for whom he loved. That's the great tragedy of his life.
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Paul K. Johnson 5 years ago
Dear God-botherers. If god drowned everyone except one family on the planet because they were evil then he believed that unborn children could be evil (not to mention all the born children). You anti-abortion types must really hate god for that.
Facing deniers can be treated as a concerned and important effort to fight misinformation. The authors of the study suggest that “not turning up to the discussion at all seems to result in the worst effect.”
Meanwhile, showing up on an acquaintance's Facebook post, even if you think it's pointless, will surely do some good.
Interestingly, the authors claim that science deniers use the same rhetoric across domains. It means that “uncovering their rhetorical techniques is an effective and economic addition to the advocates’ toolbox.”
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WilvanderHeijden 5 years ago
Never ending story of idiots spreading a disease because they do not believe in science.
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Fish Boden 5 years ago
I can't believe that the idiot had 1.8k up-votes. Yowsers, so many dafties.
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WilvanderHeijden 5 years ago
Lol. How dare you debunk the nonsense I'm spewing on the internet with science? Don't you ever do that again!!!!
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WilvanderHeijden 5 years ago
Even if you'd put the entire flat-earth movement in a spaceship and circle the earth in any way they want, they'd be telling you that it's a trick with mirrors and projectors. But at least they are harmless and don't hurt other people with their nonsense.
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Mama Panda 5 years ago
hahahaha I love it when people who have no flippin' idea who they are talking to make an a*s out of themselves. I always look up whoever I am in a discussion/argument/debate with before I make a comment that I might regret later. You never know if someone's background qualifies them to be right or not.
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WilvanderHeijden 5 years ago
History is there to teach the future lessons. But of course, you do need some kind of education to be able to understand those lessons.
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StormsTempest 5 years ago
Do people forget that literally everything is made up of chemicals...?
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Tovah Roche 5 years ago
Someone should probably tell them that Darwin believed in God and evolution simultaneously throughout most of his research years.
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WilvanderHeijden 5 years ago
More and more European countries make vaccinating mandatory. Unvaccinated children are banned from schools in those countries and parents can be forced to have their children vaccinated. And rightly so. Screw your "strong convictions" and "religious beliefs", our national health is endangered because of your b******t and we are getting tired of your stupidity.
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Csaba Hegedűs 5 years ago
It's so sad to see one thinks that if their kids are momentarily healthy without vaccination, that's proof that this state will keep up indefinitely. It most likely won't. It would be funny to see their faces when they realize their mistakes, but it won't, because it would be to the expense of the child who'd deserve better.
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EA 5 years ago (edited)
Tell that to the families of women who died from cervical cancer. Including a 15 year old girl in the UK a few years ago. Plus it’s been proven that men can be affected by HPV as well so some are campaigning for teenage boys to have the vaccine too. Oh and it might not cause cancer, but more often genital warts and other infections. Who would want to be protected from getting genital warts right?! Morons...
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WilvanderHeijden 5 years ago
Perhaps we need to write a law that hospitals have to check everyone's social media before treating them. "Sorry dude, you doubt our medical knowledge and you have solid evidence that our cures do not work, so we are not even going to try." or "Yes ma'am, Billy could be saved by a simple vaccination, but as you have repeatedly stated on Facebook: No one is going to poison your kid with vaccines. So take him home and enjoy your last 5 days with him." Wonder what the reactions would be?
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Yugan Talovich 5 years ago
I thought she was impressive just from what she's said. I didn't know her background. Wow! As a white boomer male, I would like Ted Cruz to stuff his mouth full of the money he gets from the NRA and shut up.
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Nadine Khazaka 5 years ago
And it's not an easy death, it's painful and scary and preventable.
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Mascha Claessens 5 years ago
YEP. Just regular, normal, cheapass soap will do the trick! ALL cells have a lipid bilayer (not that a virus is a cell, but they still have this layer to protect their DNA/RNA). The problem with bacteria is that they usually also have some sort of (non-lipid) capsule around them, hence why regular soap doesn't kill bacteria right away (it does wash most of the bacteria off your hands though (soaping, rinsing and then drying with a clean cloth), they just don't die). Sooo... I guess we'll all be injecting ourselves with regular soap from now on, right? ;-) Or just rinsing our lungs with it, should work!
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Leo Domitrix 5 years ago
Climate: patterns of weather over *time*. Weather: Short-term meteorological conditions. Or, in the terms my elementary school teacher used: "Climate is an ice age, weather is a snow flurry."
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WilvanderHeijden 5 years ago
Seems that the US government has a particular talent of appointing the most stupid people in various positions.
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K.Kobayashi 5 years ago
Who cares if he qualifies as a "scientist"? He's a science educator, and a damn good one at that. I *am* a scientist and I greatly respect his work.
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WilvanderHeijden 5 years ago
Sorry, but this not accurate. You also need to include the electricity that's needed to power the devices that people use to watch Netflix and the electricity that's needed to power the switches, modems and routers that are needed to get the signal from the server to the viewers. So yeah, the massive use of electricity does have an impact on emisions unless you decide to completely switch to renewable and sustainable energy sources like solar panels, wind turbines, and hydro electricity and abandon coal and nuclear powerplants.
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WilvanderHeijden 5 years ago
Sorry to say so but I noticed that Conservatives indeed seem to have some competition going on who can post the most stupid c**p on the internet.
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somnomania 5 years ago
hot air. clearly he's never bothered to look at a single peer reviewed journal, or any of the thousands of videos, articles, interviews, and other material from scientists saying what a problem climate change is and how long we've known about it.
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Olivia Miller (Livie) 5 years ago
.......................I couldn't really be bothered to read the whole this but sounds like a great come back ................................
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tuzdayschild 5 years ago
I had to stop reading these. People who embrace ignorance and stupidity are scarier than Freddie Kruger.
mph seti 5 years ago
Yep. Even if Freddy were real, he'd still be less dangerous. He's killed far less people than willful ignorance has.
Load More Replies... chi-wei shen 5 years ago
Are these science deniers really stupid or are they trolls trying to make a joke? I always thought no one can be that stupid.
Lauren Caswell 5 years ago (edited)
Same but there are some scary as levels of stupid and denial out there. Intelligence is knowing enough to know that you dont know everything. So many people lack that insight its disheartening for our future as a species
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Daria Z 5 years ago
I was caught spreading unproven facts (aka BS) on several occasions during my lifetime. It was really embarrassing bacause I considered myself an intelligent human being. Hopefully, these people learned something like I had learned, and will know better.
KombatBunni 5 years ago
At least you can admit to being wrong and have made the choice to be educated. Well done you :)
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Mama Panda 5 years ago
I really wish people who love to post stupid s**t would research what they are posting for the validity of the topic. So many times I see something and know instantly that something is amiss and it takes me just a few minutes to find the truth behind the post. No I don't use snopes but I use credible sources and post the websites to that person's post to let them know just how f*****g dumb they are to post stupid s**t. It really scares me that people are that gullible and naive.
Virgil Blue 5 years ago
The dihydrogen monoxide gullibility "test" comes to mind. When asked if it should be banned from food many people said yes becsuse it sounded scary to them, not realising what it actually was.
Load More Replies... Susan 5 years ago (edited)
So many idiots, too much of the time. I've just recently educated myself as to what QAnon is. It seems like there are even more of them than there are Flat Earthers! It's terrifying that we are surrounded by imbeciles. There's a good chance that one of them will be elected to Congress. God help us survive the teaming morons who inhabit our society.
starhunter64 5 years ago
i gotta remember some of these for the karrens out there like no. 14's NASA called they can see your stupidity from space
CbusResident 5 years ago (edited)
Also: 'Fat acceptance! Being obese is healthy! If you think obesity is unhealthy you're fat-phobic!' FALSE!! The term phobia specifically means a fear which is irrational. It's not irrational to fear obesity when the WHO, The UK Nat.'l Health Service, The US CDC, The US NIH, The Am. Heart Association, Cancer Research UK and The Am. Cancer Society have all issued official declarations that obesity is extremely dangerous to your health. In what way is the fear of dire health consequences irrational? Since that fear is not irrational, how could it properly be considered a phobia? Yes, call out the anti-science right who denies evolution and climate change. Call out the anti-science left on 'fat-acceptance' - esp. when a non-scientist-non-physician like Kelli Jean Drinkwater preaches it on the Ted stage. 'Enough With The Fear of Fat' she calls her Ted Talk. Wrong! People should be scared shitless of their obesity! It literally is as serious as a heart attack, and it literally is a matter of grave consequences.
Catherine Spencer-Mills 5 years ago
Watch me explode over anti-vaxxers. I was born in 1950, so I was a little kid before many vaccines were available. I had chickenpox at age 5, measles (rubeola) at age 7, mumps age 11, rubella age 13. My dad took us to get our polio sugar cubes when I was six. He made up open our mouths to show him we swallowed it, all of it. But then, he had a cousin who had polio. I have retina scarring and a dimple on my cornea from the measles. My temp went over 105F 3 times, mom said they packed me in alcohol and ice water each time. I only remember twice. Then I spent 6-8 weeks in a darkened room, no TV, no books as they tried to limit the damage to my eyes. It is effing child abuse to not get your children vaccinated.
Yehudit Hannah Cohn 3 years ago
I have saved myself from looking like some of these people by the simple expedient of Googling the person I am talking to. It gives me the time and knowledge to realize that maybe I am the one who should keep her mouth closed and her ears open. If the other poster seems to be the idiot, I save time--and myself from unneeded stress-- by accessing the relevant FB. That usually tells me all that I need to know, like when it just isn't worth the bother, and I can only pray that person is felled by a falling piano before causing more harm.
David Clarke 5 years ago
To Daria: It is a true sign of intellectual growth and maturity to examine one’s prejudices frequently and reevaluate. That’s one of the reasons science is so important. It constantly looks at the data and confirms or changes . The best way to learn. Thanks for your note!
Hendra Lim 5 years ago
in Buddhist teaching there are 3 root's of evil things in this world. Greed, Hatred, Stupidity. back when I'm still a student, i always asking the teach why stupidity is one of it. now, i know why
DC 5 years ago
Frightening... We have seen worldwide "wars" between things ... brands, societal/economical systems (and we awarded the winner, based on that the opponent collapsed earlier, not based on anything justifying to not expect the winner to collapse, too), will the next battle be between facts and stupidity? Idiocracy. Will come true.
Leo Domitrix 5 years ago
Did *no one* pay attention in school? So many of these things were covered and explained by the time I was 15-16... Basic stuff... Educated in America, so you can't say it's that...
K.Kobayashi 5 years ago
There is a huge anti-intellectual movement that's been going on for decades. They are the people who benefit from people not knowing the truth. They seek to undermine people's trust in "the authority" - scientists, academics, etc. Best example is the slogan of one of their TV networks - "We report, you decide." That may sound innocuous, but what they are really saying is, don't trust the expert's assessment, just believe what you want to believe.
Load More Replies... Curry on... 5 years ago
Why do those who work with factual information even bother trying to talk to dumb people? It's not like they can (or will) digest what's being said, and they certainly have proven that they abhor research and that the extent of their so-called knowledge is based on soundbites and headlines from dubious sources. Maybe scientific advancement has made this generation far too comfortable. Maybe they've concluded with their non-empirical brain cells that since they don't 'see' the problems anymore, there's no need for any more scientifically based solutions.
Virgil Blue 5 years ago
I think they hope anyone reading the posts/thread also reads their rebuttal and pauses to think.
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Kady Maree Mcgrath 5 years ago
*sirens* "We have severe burns on many people, science doubters we need to give all of them a sense of logic and common sense before treating the burn!"
Leslie Burleson 5 years ago
I think we need to stop "shutting down" people and act like decent human beings. Our society has become so negative and ugly , and there is a major superiority complex going around. Be nice to each other people. Who cares if you're wrong or somebody else is. Keyboard hazing has got to go
tuzdayschild 5 years ago
I had to stop reading these. People who embrace ignorance and stupidity are scarier than Freddie Kruger.
mph seti 5 years ago
Yep. Even if Freddy were real, he'd still be less dangerous. He's killed far less people than willful ignorance has.
Load More Replies... chi-wei shen 5 years ago
Are these science deniers really stupid or are they trolls trying to make a joke? I always thought no one can be that stupid.
Lauren Caswell 5 years ago (edited)
Same but there are some scary as levels of stupid and denial out there. Intelligence is knowing enough to know that you dont know everything. So many people lack that insight its disheartening for our future as a species
Load More Replies... Daria Z 5 years ago
I was caught spreading unproven facts (aka BS) on several occasions during my lifetime. It was really embarrassing bacause I considered myself an intelligent human being. Hopefully, these people learned something like I had learned, and will know better.
KombatBunni 5 years ago
At least you can admit to being wrong and have made the choice to be educated. Well done you :)
Load More Replies... Mama Panda 5 years ago
I really wish people who love to post stupid s**t would research what they are posting for the validity of the topic. So many times I see something and know instantly that something is amiss and it takes me just a few minutes to find the truth behind the post. No I don't use snopes but I use credible sources and post the websites to that person's post to let them know just how f*****g dumb they are to post stupid s**t. It really scares me that people are that gullible and naive.
Virgil Blue 5 years ago
The dihydrogen monoxide gullibility "test" comes to mind. When asked if it should be banned from food many people said yes becsuse it sounded scary to them, not realising what it actually was.
Load More Replies... Susan 5 years ago (edited)
So many idiots, too much of the time. I've just recently educated myself as to what QAnon is. It seems like there are even more of them than there are Flat Earthers! It's terrifying that we are surrounded by imbeciles. There's a good chance that one of them will be elected to Congress. God help us survive the teaming morons who inhabit our society.
starhunter64 5 years ago
i gotta remember some of these for the karrens out there like no. 14's NASA called they can see your stupidity from space
CbusResident 5 years ago (edited)
Also: 'Fat acceptance! Being obese is healthy! If you think obesity is unhealthy you're fat-phobic!' FALSE!! The term phobia specifically means a fear which is irrational. It's not irrational to fear obesity when the WHO, The UK Nat.'l Health Service, The US CDC, The US NIH, The Am. Heart Association, Cancer Research UK and The Am. Cancer Society have all issued official declarations that obesity is extremely dangerous to your health. In what way is the fear of dire health consequences irrational? Since that fear is not irrational, how could it properly be considered a phobia? Yes, call out the anti-science right who denies evolution and climate change. Call out the anti-science left on 'fat-acceptance' - esp. when a non-scientist-non-physician like Kelli Jean Drinkwater preaches it on the Ted stage. 'Enough With The Fear of Fat' she calls her Ted Talk. Wrong! People should be scared shitless of their obesity! It literally is as serious as a heart attack, and it literally is a matter of grave consequences.
Catherine Spencer-Mills 5 years ago
Watch me explode over anti-vaxxers. I was born in 1950, so I was a little kid before many vaccines were available. I had chickenpox at age 5, measles (rubeola) at age 7, mumps age 11, rubella age 13. My dad took us to get our polio sugar cubes when I was six. He made up open our mouths to show him we swallowed it, all of it. But then, he had a cousin who had polio. I have retina scarring and a dimple on my cornea from the measles. My temp went over 105F 3 times, mom said they packed me in alcohol and ice water each time. I only remember twice. Then I spent 6-8 weeks in a darkened room, no TV, no books as they tried to limit the damage to my eyes. It is effing child abuse to not get your children vaccinated.
Yehudit Hannah Cohn 3 years ago
I have saved myself from looking like some of these people by the simple expedient of Googling the person I am talking to. It gives me the time and knowledge to realize that maybe I am the one who should keep her mouth closed and her ears open. If the other poster seems to be the idiot, I save time--and myself from unneeded stress-- by accessing the relevant FB. That usually tells me all that I need to know, like when it just isn't worth the bother, and I can only pray that person is felled by a falling piano before causing more harm.
David Clarke 5 years ago
To Daria: It is a true sign of intellectual growth and maturity to examine one’s prejudices frequently and reevaluate. That’s one of the reasons science is so important. It constantly looks at the data and confirms or changes . The best way to learn. Thanks for your note!
Hendra Lim 5 years ago
in Buddhist teaching there are 3 root's of evil things in this world. Greed, Hatred, Stupidity. back when I'm still a student, i always asking the teach why stupidity is one of it. now, i know why
DC 5 years ago
Frightening... We have seen worldwide "wars" between things ... brands, societal/economical systems (and we awarded the winner, based on that the opponent collapsed earlier, not based on anything justifying to not expect the winner to collapse, too), will the next battle be between facts and stupidity? Idiocracy. Will come true.
Leo Domitrix 5 years ago
Did *no one* pay attention in school? So many of these things were covered and explained by the time I was 15-16... Basic stuff... Educated in America, so you can't say it's that...
K.Kobayashi 5 years ago
There is a huge anti-intellectual movement that's been going on for decades. They are the people who benefit from people not knowing the truth. They seek to undermine people's trust in "the authority" - scientists, academics, etc. Best example is the slogan of one of their TV networks - "We report, you decide." That may sound innocuous, but what they are really saying is, don't trust the expert's assessment, just believe what you want to believe.
Load More Replies... Curry on... 5 years ago
Why do those who work with factual information even bother trying to talk to dumb people? It's not like they can (or will) digest what's being said, and they certainly have proven that they abhor research and that the extent of their so-called knowledge is based on soundbites and headlines from dubious sources. Maybe scientific advancement has made this generation far too comfortable. Maybe they've concluded with their non-empirical brain cells that since they don't 'see' the problems anymore, there's no need for any more scientifically based solutions.
Virgil Blue 5 years ago
I think they hope anyone reading the posts/thread also reads their rebuttal and pauses to think.
Load More Replies... Kady Maree Mcgrath 5 years ago
*sirens* "We have severe burns on many people, science doubters we need to give all of them a sense of logic and common sense before treating the burn!"
Leslie Burleson 5 years ago
I think we need to stop "shutting down" people and act like decent human beings. Our society has become so negative and ugly , and there is a major superiority complex going around. Be nice to each other people. Who cares if you're wrong or somebody else is. Keyboard hazing has got to go
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