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Recently, a Twitter user who goes by the handle @Itkeekz shared a post telling how his boss screwed up big time. “My boss deactivated my coworker’s email who just quit too quickly and didn't realize it controls our company calendar,” he wrote, adding that “now all of those events for the next 3 years are gone.”
As you try to picture the sheer regret on this boss's face, I have to tell you this happens more often than you’d think. Blame it on rash light-headedness or plain impulsiveness, but the truth is that employers are not immune to messing up.
The story was reshared by one Redditor on the Antiwork subreddit, an online community with 1.8m members, where it quickly blew up. More people chimed in to share their own experiences, telling how their bosses blew things after their worker got fired or decided to quit. Scroll down below for some of the most interesting and telling stories.
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Tu Lam 3 years ago
Why didn't they reactivate it and then reset the password? We have a 90 hold on accounts. They get deactivate, if management needs anything we just reactivate and they can access files, emails and back them all up. I have a drive of someone who passed away 6+ years ago because the stuff he was working was still being worked on.
Id row 3 years ago
I wrote a bunch of macro reports in excel that we used heavily daily and monthly for both our US and intl counterparts, for customers and internal use. At least 20 of them. When I got laid off, they removed my login, which was specific to the macro. I never told them what impact it would have, figured I'd let them get a nice surprise. They had to do all those reports manually, which was a HUGE amount of time and effort to figure out. I get a chuckle whenever I think about that.
Moo Moo Futch 3 years ago
What is an exit interview even for? Unless it's for the employee to tell the employer why their company sucks total äšś and how working for them another minute would be akin to selling one's soul, it's utterly pointless!
Rusty Lewis 1 year ago
OP was within their rights to refuse an exit interview, especially where a narcissist boss was concerned. Exit interviews are unproductive in cases like this. Trust me on that; I speak from experience. Boss sowed to the wind and reaped the whirlwind.
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Tommy DePaul 1 month ago
Presumably she had 13 days to go before her leave date.
Load More Replies... Steve Fischer 3 years ago
For $100,099.89 plus expenses I'll see what I can do. But no guarantees
Peej Maybe 3 years ago
This sort of thing happens all the time where I work because people will insist on keeping business critical stuff in their PERSONAL OneDrives, then removing shares / access when they quit or when their account gets deleted, so does their OneDrive.
Kimberly Lorton 3 years ago
Being spiteful as a boss, or ex boss, will come back and spit at you in the face and pocket.
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Paul Davis 3 years ago
Most people in business are still relatively computer illiterate and never think twice about the fact they're letting individual accounts become the sole container and and control for business critical information.
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Whawhawhatsis 3 years ago
I once spent three months organizing visits to congressional offices on the Hill for about 75 officials from a particular segment of the health care market, and had to set up an elaborate spreadsheet to keep track of them all and keep notes on who said what and when and what I needed to do to get people in to see someone in that office. Then I moved out of state and left that job, and my replacement decided she hated my computer and had the company get her a newer, faster one. But she didn't check the files that were on my hard drive; I hadn't put that one on the company drive since there was so much private information included, so when she dumped my old computer she dumped the spreadsheet. Then she called me halfway across the country to find out where it was saved. It was her own fault for being in too big a hurry to get a new computer! I had zero sympathy for her.
Lesley Allen 3 years ago
A very blue blue-chip company laid us all off. Then they destroyed all paper (think archives) and all soft-copy files. Within a year they needed to update product documentation. Nothing to use! Most of us were working as contractors and consultants. The company brought us back for 9 months to recreate all that documentation (we'd all kept hardcopy of published docs, and I had kept all the online tools that I had coded). The people they'd laid off were the only resource the company had to use.
China Nolan 3 years ago
This happens so much Microsoft had to bake in recovery for email (and so much more) because these faux managers rashly fire people who because of laziness, they have delegated away much of their job function. These people quit because of overwork and crap pay and they have a hissy fit and demand we pull the while the person still walking down the hall after giving notice. Do these vain toddlers listen when we tell them you're about to hose away tens of thousands or millions of dollars??? Nope. Baby wants his pablum now. Then we get the call to do Baby Boss too.... their boss gets lucky cause BB doesn't do much anyway due to delegation.
Hagen Radcliffe 3 years ago
Yes! Obliterate the traitor for daring to quit! Kill them! ( purple-faced, feet stomping, spittle-flying toddler managers)
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Bonnie Edwards 3 years ago
I don't get it. Spend some time and download the documents. It's not that hard. I've done it.
Nicoll Curtis 3 years ago
Managers don't know to download files before they delete accounts. They think everything is recoverable with a bit of effort. Which, TBF, it is... but they don't want to pay for the employee so they're definitely not going to like what data recovery costs.
Load More Replies...Bored Panda reached out to Dawn Moss, the founder of “Your Interview Coach” set up in 2013 to help both candidates and hiring managers through the complexities of the recruitment and selection process. Throughout her career, Dawn has screened about 1 million CVs and interviewed over 10k candidates, and she was happy to share some insights into the procedure of firing an employee and what happens afterwards.
“It’s a less than easy process to fire someone in the U.K., both legally and ethically,” Dawn said. “In terms of the process, there are lots of factors to take into consideration; reason for dismissal, performance, capability, gross misconduct, and length of service, etc.” Although Dawn reminded us that she’s not an employment lawyer, she said that these situations can get complex.
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CATMONSTER2018 3 years ago
(for hiwow12523 because U can't reply to very downvoted comments): I like how there are so many bots in BP, that getting over 400 points puts you in the top 5%. Are there just 5000000 (exaggeration) Bots? or do 95% not get over 400 likes. I know my grammar sucks. Dont yell at me for it.
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Robert T 3 years ago
In civilized countries, firing someone whilst they are off sick is illegal.
Silre 3 years ago
A friend of my mom's had a heart attack and got fired while she was in the hospital. Her son just happened to be a lawyer and sued the s**t out of her employers.
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Suebee70 3 years ago (edited)
Employer: sexually assaults me multiple times Me: Young divorced mom w/child, starts looking for another job, but can't afford to quit this one until I find something else. Employer: "I see you looking at the want ads - I can't fire you b/c I know you'll sue me, so I'll just lay you off & tie up the unemployment claim by fighting it so I won't have to pay you." Me: Finds new job within 3 days. Employer: Loses everything & closes business, leaves the country. (Not my doing, but some epic karma.)
Kate 3 years ago
"Sure, I can come in and train your new employee. My consulting fee is $80/hour."
David Martin 3 years ago
I was put onto new meds by my doctor, who put me on two months medical leave while the meds started to really take effect. I put the medical leave forms directly in my managers hands, she told me to get well and enjoy the resting time. I was fired the following month because, per company policy, I'd gone 30 with coming in not calling off...apparently, I was supposed to call periodically to say "Remember how I'm not on the schedule tonight? Okay, well I won't be coming to my non-shift later"
Fat Harry 3 years ago
That s**t is illegal in most of Europe. I can't believe how awful American labour laws are.
Load More Replies... Tommy DePaul 1 month ago
Wrongful termination lawsuits need to result in triple damages, like antitrust cases. It would increase the deterrent effect but more importantly it would give plaintiff's attorneys an incentive to take these cases on a contingency basis.
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RafCo 3 years ago
These companies seam rather daft. Why is one person the gatekeeper of passwords. We keep all of our passwords in Vault. Has been that way for my last three companies. That said most access is managed by security tokens now.
Naesil 3 years ago
We have everything in product lifecycle management system, enterprise resource planning system, separate document management systems for documents that dont move with the end product but are still important. And even when something is saved locally it is retrievable. Time management systems to be able to follow up projects and hours spent in them etc etc. I have been maybe working too long with this kind of companies that its hard to even think how badly some companies files etc are managed. Sure it sucks sometimes when you cant just do something the way you want because there is clear rules how things are done so the systems work and is somewhat unified format across the company.
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Nothing Fancy 3 years ago
No one is replaceable, unless they are choosing to be a waste of space
Fiona Weckert 3 years ago
The administrator at my old job deleted my email the morning of my last day just to be petty. She had to spend quite a bit of time getting it all back up so I could finish off a couple of things and then I had to stay back to finish those things so she ended up leaving before I was able to - wasted so many peoples time and then didnt get to see me out like I'm sure she was dying to do. Nasty person.
Huzzir Zakaria 3 years ago
Guesses they r his Erectile Disfunc"d, and Mother F**k3r bosses. No wonder this guy got fired. I bet he's the only one who uses n knw tons of jargons n abbreviations of notes in those aforementioned files, thus the bosses had no choice to rehire him at triple rates as they're basically n indirectly held at his' gun point now... Truly badass 😁
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“For a manager, it’s tough as they were the person to hire them in the first place and I can imagine there are a number of emotions attached to letting someone go. In my experience, most managers didn’t like getting to the point of firing someone and most have probably supported the person to get up to speed prior to starting the dismissal process,” Dawn explained and added that this is why the hiring process is absolutely essential to get right the first time. She also noted that the amount of management and HR time it takes managing a poor performer is draining.
#7
Guy MacGregor 3 years ago
Well twice the salary and the recognition are good elements to think twice, imho
Kimberly Lorton 3 years ago
I would e said, 4 times my current salary, a right now bonus of 2000, and annual bonuses for everyone yearly of 500.00 dollars or pounds. Stay for two years, all the while scouting for your perfect job. Also, make them draw up a contract for the two years, and if they fire you, it constitutes and immediate payout do that years bonus and the salary for the rest of the calendar year. And if someone tried, t Jen I would leave with a two week notice and be gone.
Walter Brameld 3 years ago
The whole department? I would demand the department's headcount times my old salary.
Rusty Lewis 1 year ago
Tell the boss that you'll come back on a consultancy basis ONLY, and that your rate is 4X salary, payable in four hour increments...stay 15 minutes, get paid for four hours...
CATMONSTER2018 3 years ago
Question. who is actually the "Main boss of everything". Im just wondering, because in some posts, I see: stuff like: "The boss of my boss of my boss. e.t.c.". Just curious on where the limit is.
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rspanther 3 years ago
Big Bosses and upper management always think that they run things, until they fire the people who actually do all the work.
Ogre Juan Canolli 3 years ago
Like The Military---Want Something Done ? Ask The NCOs Not An Officer
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chad johnson 3 years ago
Make Friends with the "Secretaries/Assistants & Maintenance" any time you work for a company that is big. Showing them respect will earn you short cuts in getting what you need and sometimes early warming of upcoming Fubars.
Jo Firth 3 years ago
As an EA I really dislike this thinking - it sounds patronising and makes it seem like we will not do anything for anyone who isn't our "friend". Respect everyone who earns it, not just the people you want to use.
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NsG 3 years ago
When I was about six we had to give a talk about what we wanted to be when we grew up. I distinctly remember one little girl saying she wanted to be a secretary. The teacher (obviously trying to show feminist encouragement - this was the 80s!) asked "Surely you want to be the boss?". This little girl gave her the most *withering* look and just said "No. The secretary *is* the boss!". She was never a close friend, but that day she became my hero.
C Hendrix 3 years ago
As a long-time Secretary/Receptionist/Assistant Administrator, my favorite quote by someone in a similar role was this: The phone rang, and it was clearly someone wanting to talk to Somebody Important. Her reply was "Do you want to talk to the man in charge, or to the woman who knows what's going on?"
BannedFromABoatShow 3 years ago
NEVER tick off the secretary. They will bury you, no matter how important you think you are.
Bettie-Jean Neal 3 years ago
I'm an EA for a c-suite exec. I actually prefer the term secretary or exec secretary. I'm young, but old fashioned in that if you ask me to get you coffee, I totally don't mind. My job is to make your life easier, that's why you hired me, and if getting you coffee helps you to do your job better, then I'm getting you coffee. Where I am now, I often get public kudos from my boss, usually on a company-wide Zoom meeting and it's really nice. Embarrassing, but nice. (I'm an introvert with Asperger's, so I hate being acknowledged.)
Memere 3 years ago
Secretaries are now the Administrative Assistants. I was admin to the Environment, Health, & Safety team at my last job. I supported 3 people, did all the Work Comp claims for 6 warehouses, 47 retail stores, 250 +/- field sales personnel, & the corporate office. I also was the fleet admin for the company cars assigned to the field sales group. Most of the warehouse, retail, & field sales personnel learned very quickly to contact me first for help. The ones who didn't were S.O.L. because my boss always put them at the bottom of his list. He basically ignored anyone who wasn't on his level or above. After they let me go, I heard that he had a very hard time replacing me, which made me LMAO!
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Poultry Geist 3 years ago
I’m starting to feel like these are about the same person just from the perspective of different people in the company
Id row 3 years ago
No, managers and bosses really are that f*cking stupid.
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Isaac Harvey 3 years ago
I'd probably say something like "you wish" or "pay me first and find out."
RafCo 3 years ago
Honestly, if you're not committing code to a repo after two weeks, you should get fired. We had a contractor many years ago. His hard disk died. Not his fault, it happens. He lost one month worth of work. THAT was his fault. He was terminated. I have been working as a software developer for over twenty years. Some tiny companies (4 people), some huge (2 million people). Not once would it have been okay to withhold committing code for two weeks. That's insane. I tell my teams to commit often, push often, merge when ready.
Naesil 3 years ago (edited)
I dont do coding, but even 3D designing I would never do stuff locally ie. save the actual files on my computer.. every time I press save on the program it also saves it to the PLM where everyone with correct access rights can access it.
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Jace 3 years ago
Smt similar happened to me. I was working on a thing where I had to collect certificates/diploma’s from all my co-workers in an attempt from the employer to see where we stood on level of knowledge etc, including things from many years ago but also things in recent times. They fired me and all that I had collected was in my workspace computer, on my personal hard drive. They needed it badly and asked me for it repeatedly. Used several of my co-workers to try and get it from me. A big fat no. Go ask the collegues again for their stuff, I can’t help you. Felt good.
Tommy DePaul 1 month ago
Or: for a cashier's check for $5,000 + a letter promising not to contest my unemployment claim.
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Kimberly Lorton 3 years ago
I bet he didn't last long after that behavior. And lost even more employees.
Seadog 3 years ago
Early 90's I designed a system that allowed our electronic metering systems to integrate through a series of manual switches. Cut down on paperwork and wasted time. When I left they didn't give me a chance to fill in my replacement on how to do everything, he only knew part of it. I came back and trained him....for a fee well above my regular pay.
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Ace Girl 3 years ago
I'm surprised Google doesn't have an "are you sure you want to deactivate this email - it is tied to XYZ google sheets." Gmail warns you if you forget to attach something, why shouldn't it warn you about something as permanent as this?
Hedgeh og 3 years ago
There's no way Google could warn you about all the specific documents linked to an account - there could be thousands - but it DOES warn you about the consequences of deleting. Does it surprise you that these people just barged ahead and did it anyway?
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Having said that, it’s important to note that there’s definitely a right and a wrong way to fire an employee. “There are companies that don’t follow any process and unfortunately, if an employee has served less than 24 months they cannot usually file for unfair dismissal. There are some exceptions, if an employee feels they are being dismissed because of a protected characteristic, for example,” Dawn explained.
“However, if it’s performance-related or a personality clash, it can be fairly easy to dismiss someone without any warning. Most reputable companies will want to follow a structured process. As mentioned previously, most managers I’ve worked with want to support the individual first and dismissal is a last resort,” the career coach concluded.
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Yes I can! 3 years ago
I have a niece that quit a job on the day that the company demoted her and expected her to train her replacement. I was so worried for her. A year later the company told her to name her price. She did.
ZAPanda 3 years ago
I think they mean that after 9 months the company was desperate and hired the person back at a much higher pay grade, so they were now able to buy a house.
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Robert T 3 years ago
I did a proper handover when I resigned from my first job, but I was walked out of the building on my last day - makes me chuckle now - what did think I was going to do? Walk out with a Sun workstation under my arm?
M O'Connell 3 years ago
If it were an SGI workstation I might have tried ;)
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Firefly 3 years ago
When my husband left one of his jobs, they had security walk him out. The boss knew it was ridiculous and that my husband wasn't going to cause any problems, but it was policy. Not everyone goes quietly.
ℙ𝕦𝕣𝕣_𝕞𝕒𝕚𝕕 3 years ago
I just feel that's humiliating. Like a final slap on the face.
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Pheebs 3 years ago
I did this to a non-profit flight club I did webmaster work for. One officer iteration, the treasurer got delusions of grandeur and demanded everyone pay a bunch of fees for the club equipment (planes, ultimately). When he came to me to pay the fees, I informed him I didn’t use the equipment - couldn’t fly a plane, so what would I use? I was an honorary member of the club because I redid their website. He immediately logged in to the site and locked me out of their account (pw change). Only problem was I owned the source code and no one else in the club could update the site. They went out of compliance in their non-profit status real quick. There were also passwords the guy didn’t know existed that only I had. Took a year for me to speak to anyone from the club again.
Rusty Lewis 1 year ago
I told my last boss that I refused to be walked out. I told her that if I was not allowed to retrieve my property, there would be a big ruckus and that they just might have to call the police, not a rent-a-cop, to "escort me out". I then cleaned my desk out the week before my last day, a little at a time so it wouldn't be so obvious, and walked out the back door on my last day, before my boss even know what was going on. She tried to call me...the most delicious "ignore" I ever put into my phone. She was a flaming narcissist and incompetent to boot, and thought she could do no wrong.
SupernaturalPanda 3 years ago
This happened to me. I was walked out by security. Like bruh you think I’m going to kill you or something you don’t realize you just made my f*****g day. I was burnt out on that job. No regrets.
Nicoll Curtis 3 years ago
My husband's old company was bought by another company. Shortly after they called him and the 3 other guys in one of the IT departments in and said they were letting them all go. They were all 4 walked out right then. My husband had built all of the monitoring dashboards for the entire company. If any server or storage device went down, it texted and emailed him and the other 3 guys who were let go. After a few major outages because no one had any insight into the entire IT architecture of the company, I think one of the guys was finally "available" to consult. They all said that ignoring those alerts was the best part of leaving there.
Thomas Turnbull 3 years ago
In all the call centres I worked in when you left or put in your notice they walked you straight out they would just pay you for the notice period but you were not allowed to work it.
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Leesquee 3 years ago
They gave you all that responsibility in the first 90 days of your employment? Pretty stupid from the start.
Jojo Baylon 3 years ago
Didnt say he got all that responsibility the 1st 90 days, only that he didnt get the promised raise. Didnt mean he looked for another job right afterwards
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Glynn Reid 3 years ago
Can't believe you get fired for looking for other jobs. That's barbaric and not allowed here (UK)
Robert T 3 years ago
Whatever hospital or medical practice you worked for, I would run a mile from in the opposite direction! Information like this should be on a formal system with proper backups, not in a Lookout calendar!
Dolly_of TheCowboy 3 years ago
Unfortunately a lot of health care related workplaces still operate on stuff like this and with the poor attitude towards the frontline staff that actually do the work and generally poor pay/conditions there are a lot of places with high staff turnover and this happens frequently. Have seen it a number of times where a critical staff member has left because they had enough and have been shut out of the facility and their emails etc before they had actually finished and it caused huge headaches for those left. Then managers wonder why there are cascade resignations because of the chaos. Yet no one does anything to improve things because apparently frontline staff are so easily replaced
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Paul Davis 3 years ago (edited)
What kind of "computing security group" gives no thought to information retention and continuity?
ZAPanda 3 years ago
the kind with scarequotes around it, as you have observed.
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Felice Coles 3 years ago
It was nice of you to try to explain to the coworker, but my petty ass would have been out the door with no words at all except, "BYEEE!"
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Susan Mercurio 3 years ago (edited)
I got fired for "the look on my face." The mgr tried to get me to sign a statement that I quit voluntarily. I walked directly to the unemployment office and told the worker, who told me that that was illegal.
Debbie Burton 3 years ago
When I first moved here I did 4 days work from 5am to 2pm at the International Airport cafe. On the last day I asked when payday was and did she need my bank details. She argued that it was work experience!! I had 45mins left so I cooked about $150 work of mini pizzas and turned off all the coffee machines and turned the drink fridge off.... then just left. The pizzas would have been piling up where we are suppose to box them :D
Jp@nda 3 years ago
That's so incredibly f@cked up and probably illegal, I would've called the health department and every other agency on them and make their lives a living hell for awhile
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Was hired as a kitchen mngr. Was told I had to work on the line first two weeks to establish my skill level. A week or so later this guy comes come into the kitchen in suit and tie. The new kitchen manager. I knew at that point I would not be staying. This was right before Easter Sunday Come in for shift Easter morning at 7 am. Restaurant is packed. The grave cooked left after telling me there had been no dishwasher on duty all night and that the other cooks for the day had called in sick. I just laughed and walked out.
Ola Polowczyk 3 years ago
Whenever I see a word "dishwasher" I think of a machine, not a person... This post got me confused
Jean White 1 month ago
A guy bought the restaurant I was working at in a little tiny town...the local and only spot for food besides the pizza joint. He kept me on and asked where I worked...I worked a large city where it was not uncommon to do forty thousand dollars of business in a day. Anyway, his wife would come in a five and replace me and she would peel potatoes ( I would do all of the food prep for the cook for the evening except potatoes.) He changed my shift hours so I woud come in an hour later and stay an hour later (long enough to peel potatoes) I gave him a weeks written notice (yeah I know, didn't want to leave him in the lurch) He fired me on day two of my notice...all the overtime I worked was paid straight cash. He used the cook as a witness. I asked if he was sure , he was. I contacted the labour board and the cook became my witness....he had to pay me for the week and give me time and a half on my 65 hours overtime, and he was fined for not meeting standards. Closed down six months later.
Kantami Blossom 3 years ago (edited)
I got fired from a job as bottom rung chef for telling someone to shove his seniority crap up his a**e when he tried to make me do work that he was told to do. The idiot in charge who was friends with the guy I told to shove it fired me first thing when I started a few days later claiming I didn't get on well with the staff but told me to avoid being embarrassed I could work my shift like normal(like I'm going to work fae 9am to 11pm for free), I told her I didn't mind being embarrassed and grabbed my stuff whilst laughing my ass of telling the others I was fired. going by the missed calls on my phone she tried to get me back within minutes of me leaving the building presumably because someone reminded her that our kitchen was preparing the food for a conference being held in the hotel by the UK's Department Of Defence that night but I had turned off my phone😂
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Anna Banana 3 years ago
I don't even get it, what is these companies' obsession with deleting email accounts immediatelly? What for?
Robert T 3 years ago
Locking it is sensible, so that those being fired can't email contact lists or company data to themselves to use it in their next job or set up a rival company themselves. Deleting it is idiotic, as you have no idea what it contains.
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Id row 3 years ago
This is how managers and bosses justify their position and paycheck. "So-and-so left, which caused major chaos. But don't worry! I'm working diligently to fix the problems they caused!" Then when the workers eventually fix the problem, they take the credit for it. It's a smokescreen that's worked since the dawn of managers.
Glynn Reid 3 years ago
Here's the thing. Good senior managers have already been there and done that. They know their middle/low level managers are full of sh!t and they know which "mere mortal" employees are really running the show.
Load More Replies... Kimberly Lorton 3 years ago
I hope their bosses jumped on their heads to find any brains that might have been there!
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Stannous Flouride 3 years ago
It's called "The Peters Principal: Everyone gets promoted to their own level of incompetence." Which means that people who seek promotion eventually reach a level above where they're good at. I was a very good professional cook but learned the hard way that I'm not a good manager.
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Cheryl Clift 3 years ago
I used to drive a School Bus. I had gone to my Boss, Transportation Director, about a rowdy High School Student. He was causing a lot of problems, and some were really unsafe. The HS Principal wouldn't do anything, The Parent of this Kid, was a pain too. Those oh so special, people learn very quickly, that all they need to do, it to threaten a law suit. And the Principals back off their kids. So that teaches the Student, that they can get away with anything. So the only reason that my Boss took the Transportation Director job, was so he could put on his resume, that he had been a Supervisor. I had talked to the Student, send notes home, talked to the Principal. The next step was My Boss. He blew me off. A couple of weeks later I broke my ankle. It wasn't a full week, and My Boss is Calling Me, about this Student and asking ME how to deal with him. I LOL and told him, that I had asked him to help me, get him under control. And YOU did Nothing. Now He's Your Problem.
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Annette Easton 3 years ago
The way I like to put it is "Your lack of planning is not MY emergency"
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Bonnie Edwards 3 years ago (edited)
I had a similar thing when I was fired from a perm part time job as admin/ receptionist. I saved everything on the office server, sent the boss' each an email on where to find things, including exact doc path, title, basic content, and they still managed to lose the lot. Bumped into an old co-worker a few years later. They had to hire THREE people to replace me, and rebuild all of my records. Market research company with a database of over 5,000 staff. Apparently I wasn't busy enough to justify having me there.
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Tim Douglass 3 years ago
Sounds like the outgoing guy either booby trapped stuff as he left or had some kind of a deadman switch buried in the code. Either case it sounds sketchy as all get out. I'd be calling for an investigation, accounting code that dies abruptly all across the board screams embezzlement cover-up to me.
JollyJoker Pansy 3 years ago
Could be as simple as the old data server going out. I was paid quite a bit to come out of retirement to repair the macros and train baby engineer.
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Celtic Pirate Queen 3 years ago
The accounting person is just about the most essential employee in any company. As a professional bookkeeper for over 25 years, I can guarantee you that this is true. I had an owner decide she could save money & do my job herself (she was a 5th grade teacher and not stupid, but she had NO IDEA how to use our new software - which I had spent 2 weeks being trained & certified for). Yeah, I ignored her phone calls for 3 months.
Karyn DeWit-Midgley 3 years ago
Three months; wow. Did you ever answer her call?
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Patrick Wilson 3 years ago
"Sorry, don't remember them"? How about "Sorry, I DON'T WORK THERE ANYMORE" No point lying.
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Paul Davis 3 years ago
But when they're deciding whether to re-carpet their offices for the third time this year, or to buy infrastructure for critical data, the carpet always wins.
Hagen Radcliffe 3 years ago
You have no idea. My husband works for a company that does the refits & setups of big shots offices. $500. Leather wastebasket. I s**t you not. $4000. Imported Italian marble desk TOP. Swear to god. $10,000. Door. yes, the door to his office cost $10,000. This for 1 boss in 1 company. Now multiply by 100s of those asshats. But $15.hour is too much for the budget!
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This sort of crap can happen with cloud computing environments - when initially created people use their own email address, then inevitably the thing moves into production without migrating to an "official" account. Person quits and company loses access to everything.
Nicoll Curtis 3 years ago
It happens with more than just cloud accounts in test vs prod. The sales reps from major vendors all build a relationship with us as points of contact. If a company decides that a sales rep's favorite engineer is no longer needed, say bye bye to whatever discounts you were getting. I know I personally saved a company almost 200k a year on hardware/software/support from two of our major vendors, because their engineers just loved that I'd come argue with them about how their products didn't have a functionality I needed, so I wasn't going to pay for their recommended support tier when I was going to be building and supporting that functionality myself. We could BS for hours. The other guys on my team didn't treat them the same way.
Load More Replies... Thomas Turnbull 3 years ago
I think Dropbox lets you undelete stuff for 30 days if I remember correctly
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Memere 3 years ago
Exactly. All it would take would be for everyone to do a thorough search of all the cabinets, closets, etc. Sounds like there were more than a few "smartasses" working there.
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Francisco Manuel Teruel Gutiérrez 3 years ago
Hummm... sorry, but I totally disagree. One thing is when the company cancels accounts and destroy your previous work... a different thing is when you hide important information and documents that your company is asking for and that was part of your job.
Anna Banana 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be legal where I live... But it looks like we're talking about a much less regulated job market here.
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Eric Lafleur 3 years ago
Letting a boss shoot himself in the foot is okay. But what you did is sabotage. You could have your as.. sued fot this.
Jace 3 years ago (edited)
This! Shouldn’t have treated me like s**t, now go solve the problems yourself.
Thomas Turnbull 3 years ago
Your just being nasty you where not sacked the company should sue you.
onivdsrapowijap 3 years ago
The boss was abusive so she probably deserved it, but yeah it wasn't a good idea because OP could have gotten sued
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Jesse Taylor 3 years ago
While you think that payback should be warranted, the password belongs to your ex-boss.
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Moosy Girl 3 years ago
Since the company bought the devices, they have the serial numbers and information necessary to have them reset even if their IT department are complete idiots. This is either just not true or absolutely ridiculous. You should NEVER need someone’s passcode or passwords to reset or access a company owned device in the first place.
ZAPanda 3 years ago
hmm in theory. In practice apple are basically like, f-u, if you want to unlock a device that's not yours. they kinda insist on the person whose email is tied to the device. even with that data, you still have to jump through hoops. It's literally easier in some cases to throw it away.
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James016 3 years ago
We have a process for my company's phones so that when they come back I can wipe them. We specify using that the google account has to use the company address and specific password. That way if they change the phone's password to a swipe pattern then we can still recover the phone. The google account is only for the Play store for apps and backing the phone up
D Kaufman 3 years ago
Working for large urban high school and new principal did not like CTE (business teachers). Since I knew I was going to be transferred after 15 years I started to do some malicious but harmless pranks. The best was resetting the passwords to the computers to my classroom. The following year when they reached out to me asking what the passwords were, I replied, "youhavetobekiddingme" and hung up the phone. My new boss tried very hard not to laugh when I told him the password.
Kimberly Lorton 3 years ago
I'd be dumpster diving for them and re sell! Or better yet, fix and give away to kids for school!
Thomas Turnbull 3 years ago
Surely the IT department are not that stupid just reformat and reinstall on the laptop and use it again.
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Thomas Turnbull 3 years ago
If they hired him back at the same rate how is that three times his take home pay.?
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Jerry Mathers 3 years ago
I hope you told them no. Or at least hit em with a 5 figure consultings fee
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Felice Coles 3 years ago (edited)
Guess the client shouldn't have rushed to be sneaky and malicious, then, huh?
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Paul Davis 3 years ago
But the uptick is somebody proved themselves to be this toxic, unethical, incompetent and dangerous to the company but still gets to work there...!
Memere 3 years ago
There may have been a contract & if the company fired her, they would have had to pay out a bunch of money to her. By transferring her, they reduced her responsibilities & impact, plus avoided a big payout. And they are probably hoping she'll find another job eventually.
Load More Replies... ZAPanda 3 years ago
excellent. Bosses who throw their staff under the bus and who are not competent must be exposed. Do not cover for them. Do the minimum, put sabotages into their files that they don't notice but that smarter bosses will notice, like calculation errors etc. Let them get nailed.
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Lucas 3 years ago
Plus if this happens a lot the 'tripling of the hourly rate' may also get very well known within whatever his industry is - he could just be damaging his own reputation.
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Joe Brody 3 years ago
I had something similar happen, except i went back to an industry I had left, and moved to a state more pleasant to live in. Good for you and what you did. Best of luck. Best wishes. Become very wealthy, and never give your old place another thought. Somewhere down the road, you'll see the results.
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Joe Brody 3 years ago
I did it with everything I could. Expensive account. Reimbursed car allowance. Supplies. Mass Transit costs, Dinners witb Contractors. Turned their card back to them. Did it for almost a decade. Points added up to more than I could have asked for.
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James016 3 years ago
My company has office 365 and after we delicence someone their files are available for 30 days before being deleted.
Xerastraza Lecrutia 3 years ago
indeed there is a 30 day retention policy, but you can go and perm delete that as well.
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Joe Brody 3 years ago
Small Business. Large Businesses. The common denominator is "people". Somebody with a bruised ego did it for the first time. After a while, it becomes company policy because "that's what we always do". Large corporations don't "see" the issues it causes. Small companies keep hiring managers that get mad. Little companies forget.
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Felice Coles 3 years ago
This is what happens when you institute a "very complicated" system and only one person is willing to wrangle it.
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Felice Coles 3 years ago
As if: "How do we know it's you? What if you're her--sneaking in to work some more?"
Robin DJW 3 years ago
Happened to me once. I was a long time IT person, my name was well known across IT. There was a contractor with same name, and of course contractors are processed differently. Fortunately nothing was lost - just a few switches to set me back to "Active," change PWDs, straighten termination out with HR. No worries, and we all had a good laugh. It was a good outfit.
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Homer Jay 3 years ago (edited)
You must live in a hell of a country, here, in order to begin the new work at another company we assess a testing period of "account deactivation" and social security/taxes transfer to your new job so you can pay taxes and go to hospitals. There companyes must really hate one another and fire people out of the blue.
Andie Day 3 years ago
Tru dat! Companies have nothing but contempt for worker's knowledge and skills.
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Felice Coles 3 years ago
Director needs to sit his lazy, callous ass in the classroom with the poor kids to see how well he does.
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Stacey Smith 3 years ago
"It's part of your job description to do X, Y or Z" Girl, no. What are you going to do if I don't? Fire me?
Seadog 3 years ago
Worked at a a very large marine dealership. Took on a new line and shortly afterwards the owners went to a dealer conference. The Owner of that new line got drunk and made a very offensive comment about the intelligence of the people in our region of the country. Needless to say, we stopped carrying that new line instantly. Backlash? That boat brand was out of business in just a couple years. Shame too, they were actually a nice boat.
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Seadog 3 years ago
Reminds me of a place my son worked. At least once a week the computer program that controlled the operations would just freeze for no apparent reason. Their solution was a reboot which caused every system to stop of course. Second time, my son happened to be standing there and asked why they were going to reboot? They told him why and he told them they didn't need to reboot, that all you have to do is (this). And everything went back to normal. After that, every time the system would freeze they'd pull him from whatever he was doing to come work his magic. A super gave him a heads up the plant was closing and told him who to get a new job from. He did and gave his notice and of course security immediately shows up to escort him from the building (SOP). On the way out they page him to come fix the operating program. He looked a the guard and asked him what he wants to do? SO the guard walked him over to fix the system and then escorted him out.
Seadog 3 years ago
He worked there for several years and no one bothered to learn the simple way of reviving the stuck program.
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Chris Osborn 3 years ago
Hiwow12523 apparently doesn't work either, just spams everything!
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Uber Mensch 3 years ago
"Sure, I"ll send you that stuff as soon as I get confirmation that $3X my old salary is in escrow with a third party - not that I don't trust you, or anything..."
Donny Winardi 3 years ago
I don't get it ... you married your own uncle ?? well that's awkward
Donny Winardi 3 years ago
I am confused here. So you married your own uncle ? well that's awkward ..
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Jon Q 3 years ago
Well since his dad died six months later, and we are only in third month of 2022, no, this wasn't in 2022.
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Dillon Brown 3 years ago
His old work was calling people in from remote work and asking them to bring their laptops so they could fire them and reclaim the laptop all at once. He got called in but they forgot to ask him to bring in his laptop so he kept it at home thinking he would get fired but get to keep his laptop because they didn't say to bring it in. Turns out they only meant to fire 8 people but sent the email to 30 people by mistake.
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WilvanderHeijden 3 years ago
Talking sense into management is impossible. They can't imagine that firing John Doe who has acces to all the admin accounts, can shut the business down.
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TeaDude 3 years ago
All of these examples are proof, in my mind at least, that labour protection laws are to the benefit of everyone. When you can fire someone at will you lose sight of how much of your IP they hold or control. When you have to give a month's notice or more, plus compensation, it makes business owners and managers stop and consider their actions carefully. I know this from personal experience as a manager and a business owner.
Nunya Bus 3 years ago
I don't feel bad at all. This happens way too often and its sick. I once worked for a man who in my opinion was not stable. He rarely showed up and when he did he's be on these mega idea benders. One day he has all of us managers in the conference room and was asking all of us the impossible and getting increasingly angry and showing it. Our IT manager said something (can't remember) and our boss got so angry that he flipped our conference table, threw things at the IT guy, screamed obscenities and our IT guy said; I quit and just left. Except he was the only IT guy and had everything and refused to cooperate. I do not blame him.
Katinka Min 3 years ago
In my country, one needs reference from old jobs and any sabotage would be criminal and prosecuted. Noone gets 'walked out' of regular becuse noone would crash or sabotage anything. We all need each other; the bosses the staff and vice versa. The US work ethics seem toxic and incredibly inefficient at the same time - quite the feat, really.
tirebiter 3 years ago
Nobody should be invisibly indispensable. Withholding company information that hides or damages assets is illegal I had a boss who managed several teams of about a dozen people each. Each team had identical structures in their network drives, intranet, etc. Every few months he would shuffle the teams so people had experience with multiple projects. Retention was high, stress was low, vacations were granted because a backup person was always available. It takes planning, knowing your people, and accepting the extra effort needed to make this work.
Suzi Q 3 years ago
Blows me away that bosses can be so arrogant, they fire employees without realizing how valuable they are. I don't know if it's ego, or spite that employees quit but maybe they should use a system that runs with or without that person. Even after being told that it's going to be a problem, they ignore the warnings.
Emma London 3 years ago
These incidents will only increase because the systems are developed thinking that people work systematically. No, they don't. For example, people share important documents from their personal OneDrive, and if they quit quickly or just forget to transfer the files to Teams etc. where they SHOULD be, poof, there go the files!
Jen 2 years ago
That really depends on the type of work, anything confidential cannot be stored where others have access that would breach confidentiality. 90% of my work is kept in one place only accessible to me because it is other people's confidential information that no one else needs or is allowed to have access to. That being said we have a default password that everything gets set back to when someone leaves and is replaced and our IT company can do that if we forget. Accounts dont get closed they just get renamed to the new staff member taking over that position and set of participants.
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Huzzir Zakaria 3 years ago
I cant help but stop n wonder as to comment(s) or votes on any if not most of these stories here considering how they are pretty one sided with nothing (compliance or not) from the other party (the bosses)... 🤔
Huzzir Zakaria 3 years ago
Dont get me wrong, I do hv my own fair shares of such during my years long career, not once but twice (but thats, for another time n another story 😜)... ✌️
Load More Replies... TeaDude 3 years ago
All of these examples are proof, in my mind at least, that labour protection laws are to the benefit of everyone. When you can fire someone at will you lose sight of how much of your IP they hold or control. When you have to give a month's notice or more, plus compensation, it makes business owners and managers stop and consider their actions carefully. I know this from personal experience as a manager and a business owner.
Nunya Bus 3 years ago
I don't feel bad at all. This happens way too often and its sick. I once worked for a man who in my opinion was not stable. He rarely showed up and when he did he's be on these mega idea benders. One day he has all of us managers in the conference room and was asking all of us the impossible and getting increasingly angry and showing it. Our IT manager said something (can't remember) and our boss got so angry that he flipped our conference table, threw things at the IT guy, screamed obscenities and our IT guy said; I quit and just left. Except he was the only IT guy and had everything and refused to cooperate. I do not blame him.
Katinka Min 3 years ago
In my country, one needs reference from old jobs and any sabotage would be criminal and prosecuted. Noone gets 'walked out' of regular becuse noone would crash or sabotage anything. We all need each other; the bosses the staff and vice versa. The US work ethics seem toxic and incredibly inefficient at the same time - quite the feat, really.
tirebiter 3 years ago
Nobody should be invisibly indispensable. Withholding company information that hides or damages assets is illegal I had a boss who managed several teams of about a dozen people each. Each team had identical structures in their network drives, intranet, etc. Every few months he would shuffle the teams so people had experience with multiple projects. Retention was high, stress was low, vacations were granted because a backup person was always available. It takes planning, knowing your people, and accepting the extra effort needed to make this work.
Suzi Q 3 years ago
Blows me away that bosses can be so arrogant, they fire employees without realizing how valuable they are. I don't know if it's ego, or spite that employees quit but maybe they should use a system that runs with or without that person. Even after being told that it's going to be a problem, they ignore the warnings.
Emma London 3 years ago
These incidents will only increase because the systems are developed thinking that people work systematically. No, they don't. For example, people share important documents from their personal OneDrive, and if they quit quickly or just forget to transfer the files to Teams etc. where they SHOULD be, poof, there go the files!
Jen 2 years ago
That really depends on the type of work, anything confidential cannot be stored where others have access that would breach confidentiality. 90% of my work is kept in one place only accessible to me because it is other people's confidential information that no one else needs or is allowed to have access to. That being said we have a default password that everything gets set back to when someone leaves and is replaced and our IT company can do that if we forget. Accounts dont get closed they just get renamed to the new staff member taking over that position and set of participants.
Load More Replies... Huzzir Zakaria 3 years ago
I cant help but stop n wonder as to comment(s) or votes on any if not most of these stories here considering how they are pretty one sided with nothing (compliance or not) from the other party (the bosses)... 🤔
Huzzir Zakaria 3 years ago
Dont get me wrong, I do hv my own fair shares of such during my years long career, not once but twice (but thats, for another time n another story 😜)... ✌️
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