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Every year, US companies spend $15 billion on managerial and leadership development. But how much of that money actually goes to good use? According to a study by Life Meets Work, 56% of American workers claim their boss is mildly or highly toxic. Another study by the American Psychological Association found that 75% of Americans say their "boss is the most stressful part of their workday."

And there's a Twitter thread that illustrates these numbers beautifully. After Jordan Gibbons, a pop star and fashion designer from Manchester, UK, shared a particularly dreadful talk he had with his manager, other people responded with similar experiences, and the whole thing has turned into a painfully funny thread that we simply must show you. Enjoy!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least he passed them on round two. I've had some journal editors who were both monstrously stupid on a topic ( one of them even tried to get me to use the wrong name of an institution he could have googled in 3 seconds, because he thought what I had wasn't right) and suuuper nit picky. I have contemplated ending at least one. But my advisor gave me the best advice ever. Don't fly to commit murder, it leaves too much of a paper trail and its too hard to get to the UK from Russia any other way, so I ground it out and did get published. Love Bill so much but that editor can fry

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bosses often have unreasonably high expectations. Some of them even are flabbergasted when the courts tell them that they aren't allowed to pay half the wages just because they think that their employees didn't perform 100%.

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Jordan still works at the same restaurant and said he's a little worried about getting fired over that tweet, but reassured us that the business itself isn't bad at all, "it's just capitalism that's the problem."

"My manager is actually a nice guy and he tries to make others happy as well," he told Bored Panda. "Recently, I was told I couldn't get gay pride off because too many people had already booked it off, but he pulled some strings and told me he knew how important it was and I ended up being able to go.

"As his tweet went viral, Jordan was really psyched to see that it struck a chord with so many people. "I think it just highlights a huge problem in today's society," he said. "People on minimum wage are the backbone of this society and I think it's disgusting that people are paid so little. I literally do not stop running around for hours on end and I am paid peanuts. Something needs to change."

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was in my early 20s my manager wouldn't let people leave 15min early to get to class in time. **Blah blah long explanation as to why that boils down to commute time to the university** 8 of us decided to leave en masse when the manager of the medical group decided that the individual doc offices couldn't independently decide to allow us to leave early as long as our work was finished. Cue me interviewing for a position on a lunch break, accepting that job, and never coming back (the docs I worked under were part of the plan so I didn't screw them over) After my successful rage quit the 7 others left in a similar fashion. It was so satisfying for all of us. Even more so when that manager was replaced shortly thereafter

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Peeps HR says there are four main types of a bad manager and they all are somewhat different. The first is a dysfunctional manager who is simply poor at their job and/or managing their team. They are actually pretty harmless for the most part; they are just downright incompetent at what they do.

This may mean they are weak, indecisive, lacking leadership traits/training/qualities, or lazy. Incompetence, according to Peeps HR, comes in many forms but if they are liked, their team may tolerate them.

The second type, and arguably the most dangerous one, is the bully. This person usually uses anger or fear to manage other people and as a result, employees will dread coming to work. This manager has the most corrosive impact on both individuals and teams.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would have been more satisfying to find a new job and not even bother to quit. Let her schedule you now and find out that you really didn't need the job.

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The climber is Peeps HR's third type and they are characterized by excessive self-orientation. Rather than caring for the company, they simply try to look good to those above, paying very little attention to those below. They can be intensely political and see peers as competitors, not as team members.

Finally, there's the micromanager and this type is quite frankly exhausting, as they overwork their team members, holding very little trust in their skills and abilities. They retain control over everything and therefore don't allow people to make mistakes and grow.

We've all heard the saying, "People don't leave companies, they leave managers." Nobody wants to work for a boss who doesn't support them or behaves in a way that puts their career and promotional opportunities at risk. Screw those guys!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes I'm asleep, but I'm having this terrible nightmare where an @sshole shyte boss is texting me at 11:26 PM.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The same boss wouldn't be annoyed if one of the men broke his leg in multiple places playing rugby.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More context needed here. Why was he fired? I mean, a company shouldn't keep someone in their staff just because they have sick relatives, or 10 children to feed at home, or whatever. Everyone has issues off work. Maybe the fired person wasn't doing a good job... It's sad indeed, and probably a bad timing for firing them, but again, more context needed.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have first asked them what value they now see I add to the company...specifically, in monetary terms.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously people, it's his WIFE & unborn BABY at risk. And Kay Blue is probably right.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

US problem. In my country nobody expects or even wants you to do work during your vacation because vacation is supposed to be the time to unwind and not think about work at all.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Companies dont want you discussing wages because they dont want the people they are exploiting and underpaying to be aware of it - particularly women.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have to see the pace of the work to judge this. I worked with a girl once who dawdled really really badly. Everthing she did was in slow motion. She was lovely and thorough but had no sense of urgency and moved at the same slow pace no matter how busy we were. She was told to pick up her pace several times and got really upset because she said she was going as fast as she could and asked the manager "unless you want to me to literally run through the restaurant". The manager replied 'yes, if that's what it takes for you to move faster then yes!". She eventually got fired because she was just too slow.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never really understood this "unpaid" thingy. Never took part in it. If you want me to do something for you, you pay me. Don't care if it's working or training.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who in his right mind would let a chance of being employed in the fast paced glamorous world of junkfood slip? /S

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

4 hours is an awfully long time to wait, though. 15 minutes max and than you start calling to ask if they've forgotten about the meeting.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked at an institution for mentally disabled people (all adults, but mental levels of about 3-10). Once got told "You are more work for us than our clients". I said "well, if it's like that...", got up, and walked out.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. No I’m not. But if YOU are, Boss, then YOU go right ahead.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really? Well then I’m now the walking dead to you, asshole.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell them to f**k off - or punch them in the face when you're out of sight of any witnesses ..... then quit and find a better job !!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once got told that I needed proof that I was attending a friends funeral. Like what you want a picture if the casket? Or his eulogy card?! Upper manager told the other one off and I was good to go.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The customer is NOT always right. Sometimes they’re assholes making a power play, or con artists trying to get something for free. Once in a great while a customer complaint will be entirely justified. Only once in a great while, though.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yes, the practice of keeping people just below the legal limit of working hours so they don't qualify for health care insurance. US society is really dystopian. Strange how parts of the US are striving to go back in time while they all are living in a future dystopian society.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, they wrote you up for taking care of your future and your health.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn't a bad manager...this is just an unfulfilling job that everyone has at some stage.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The day after my father died, I had a job interview. During the interview I got a bit emotional. My future boss ended the interview and just said "Make the coming days all about you and your loss. Let me know if I can do anything for you, see you in two weeks and by the way you're hired effective now. We'll sign the contract later."

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This spying on employees’ internet activity when they’re not at work strikes me as nothing but stalking, and should be prosecutable.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That could count as assault. You may have been allergic to one of the ingredients in her perfume and gone into anaphylaxis (this happened to my sister).

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not in their interest if you know that the guy doing the same job as you earns twice as much as your manager because he knows some things that he shouldn't have known.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had the same thing, and was asked which was more important, college or the job. The job was a job for the present, what I was studying in college was going to be my career and my future. Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs will give you a clue as to which I chose.

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The health care is managed by the government, not the employer. The company can provide a supplementary mutual insurance scheme so maybe this is hat OP meant.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That Drill weekend makes a huge difference. There are laws protecting National Guard and Reserves members from this kinda thing.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please tell me she responded with a middle finger as she cleared the door.

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