30 Signs That The Workplace You’ve Entered Isn’t Worth Staying In, As Shared By Folks Online
Whatever you do, do not decorate your office for Halloween using "ghosts" of people who used to work there. Like, specific employees with names and everything. You're gonna have a bad time. Just figured this should be included in the list.
Oh, what list, I hear you saying, dear Panda? Why, the list you can find below, of course. A list of red flags Redditors were pointing out that are sure to make anyone regret ever applying to work at a certain company. But like, red flags as in ones that scream "don't work here".
And Bored Panda has collected some of the most spot-on observations and turned them into a list. So, scroll down, upvote, comment, and share your thoughts and red flags in the comment section below!
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At the interview they offer you water. Suddenly you start feeling groggy. Next thing you know you are waking up in a bathtub full of ice with your kidneys missing.
Fool me once Hobby Lobby. Fool me once.
Yeah, waking up with a missing a kidney *might* suggest there is something off there. Keep observing.
In fairness, I would not put this past Hobby Lobby. They are in reality a very terrible organization, that spent a TON of money lobbying lawmakers in Africa to make being gay a crime that is punishable by death. Similarly, they have spent lots of money in the US on anti-LGBTQ and anti-choice legislation. The owners are evangelical christian fundamentalists who believe in exporting their warped views on religion to the rest of the world. This is also the same group of people who were caught attempting to smuggle thousands of clay artifacts pillaged from Iraqi museums during the war for their Bible museum which they intended (or perhaps still intend) to open in the US capital. So stealing kidneys, sure, why not.
Well, if both were missing, you wouldn't have woken up......or been able to write this little taradiddle.
Everyone you meet has been working there less than 2 years and it isn't a startup.
Not really. Call centers often have high turnover - not because they’re terrible places to work, but because the people on the opposite end of the phone can be terrible. I loved one of the call centers I worked for, but hated too many of the customers.
Load More Replies...In my case it was the owners wife that was the problem. I lasted 4 months and when I told the owner why he just sighed and signed my papers. It was clear that she had been the reason many times before.
Worst place I ever had to deal with was the grants management office of a prestigious US university. It had a Director and a staff of 10. It didn’t take me long to notice that there was 100% turnover within every 8-10 months. The Director was as unpleasant, cruel and wicked a person as you will ever meet in such a setting. And it wasn’t just the fact that staff would hand in their resignations and leave with two weeks notice, it was mostly outright job abandonment, such as an exasperated employee phoning a colleague from their lunch break to tell them “F it, I’m not coming back.” Two years later the psycho Director had a stroke and had to retire. Boo-hoo. 😢
Low turnover in IT also is. You don't want colleagues that have been working there for 35 years...
There is a company here that is a dead zone. It is a tech company of very last resort. My BIL worked there for several years. Last night we were talking about it and he said every recruiter was suspicious of him being there for 5 years. Once he got out he hasn't had issues with getting other jobs, but man that initial job.
Load More Replies...Or when the employees start bailing like rats off a burning ship after management changes.
Call centres. I managed 6 months and that was a long time by their standards.
Of course, a lot of call centres employees are students or people that see them as temporary jobs.
Load More Replies...My company is like this, only because it's located in a college town and the main reason my coworkers leave is for school. sad for me, but I'm happy for them. Most my coworkers only stay about a year. I'm only here because I'm too broke and afraid of university!!!
Worked at a place like this once before- turned out, it was the owner who was horribly toxic. Once called a company-wide meeting just to fire a girl in fron of everyone, and her crime was literally just that she didn't go to his office just to say "bye" to him one Friday. I lasted just under three months, one month after that fiasco.
I accepted a job at a company, and subsequently learned that I was the FIFTH person in the role in Six-and-a-half years!!!
When your initial interview doesn’t start on time, and you’re waiting. They don’t respect your time. Which essentially means they don’t respect their workers.
Same, when they require "great communication skills" but never bother to give feedback after the interview
Bring that up in the interview. "...great communication skills listed here. Please tell me how this company communicates with the candidates..." If they don't know, or say that it's somebody else's job, that means that company sucks at communication.
Load More Replies...I once waited about 15 minutes for an interview. It was because the manager had to fire someone two days before, and someone had called in sick. So he was forced to cover multiple rolls for that day. Been there two years and it's still the best company I've been with.
meh, stuff happens. I was late to interview a week ago due to a production emergency. Our HR recruiter contacted the candidate and let them know that I would be late, and asked if they wanted to reschedule. They did, and so it went on from there. It wasn't that I did not respect his time.
Yes, I remember going to an interview and then was herded into a stairwell to fill out an application at a student desk placed in there, even though they had a copy of my resume and I had been sent there by a recruitment agency who had already vetted me. I was left there for over half an hour and considered leaving, but I stuck it out and was rewarded with the interviewer lady insulting some of my work experience. Didn’t quite know how to take that then as I was younger and didn’t have my voice for standing up for myself. Today’s me would have let that b***h have it. When you hit 50, you don’t put up with nonsense and don’t give a rat’s a*s what anyone thinks of you anymore. Hey lady, sometimes people have to take jobs just to pay the bills! That’s life!
Or it might mean they're incompetent and/or disorganized. A red flag in itself.
I actually took a job where the guy who would be my boss was late to the interview, Turns out he was the nicest most down to earth person, just one of those guys with a ton of knowledge always getting pulled in 100 directions. I still work there 18 years later he has moved to another position but still the nicest guy & would work for him again
I noticed a young girl leaving a job interview based on the lateness of the prospective interviewer. She arrived on time and refused to just sit and wait. Time is money.
I have the same rules, whether it's a home visit or a professional place. I'm ready/there 20 minutes early and I'll wait 20 minutes after the appointment is supposed to start and if the person hasn't turned up or I've not been taken into the examination room for doctor /nurse/dentist etc then I tell the receptionist that my time is important to me and if they can't respect my time then they need to make another appointment and they need to make sure they take me in on time. Same goes for a home visit. If they aren't here by 20 minutes after the visit was supposed to start then they are wasting my time and they need to make another appointment to see me and not be late next time. Even if they do turn up 30 minutes late I send the person away.
Sometimes things happen in life. Car trouble, accidents etc. What if YOU are the one having problems and run late?? Your "Rules" sometimes need to be broken. I'd never hire anyone as inflexible as you!
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The owners children are in high management / executive positions
There are small family-run businesses that are ok in this formula. I'm thinking of a small bakery near me; 6 people in total, 4 of them are the 2 owners and their 2 sons. But there is no "high management" position, and everybody works their fingers to the bone
Generally, if the kids have been working there since they were teenagers, plus were started at the very lowest position and had to prove themselves to move up—-and been passed over for promotion when someone else was just better than they were—-then OK. But when they just up and put their kids in charge of the entire company—-kids who have been living privileged lives, never ever had to get their hands dirty, and absolutely do NOT deserve a high management job because of that plus their rotten demanding spoiled brat personalities—-expect the atmosphere to immediately turn toxic, even if it was a wonderful place to work when their parents were in charge.
Load More Replies...The owner of a company I worked for promoted his son, who just graduated college in 2021, to Executive Director of Client Services. I've been in the agency world for 10 years, and he was leading the account team. I noped out as soon as I could.
Had an IT job at a car dealership in Houston. One of my tasks was to do a backup of the entire database 15 minutes before close. I was to then take the physical tapes (older system) to a special building that had a fireproof safe. One evening after completing this task I came back to the computer room to a ringing phone. One of the VPs (owners 26 year old daughter) was on the line. She immediately angrily asked "Where were you?!". I explained I was taking the tapes to the the next building to secure them. She told me "you can take your cassette tapes wherever you want on your own time - but I expect you to be in the computer room when I call". I explained they were not music tapes - but the backup tapes for the database. She instructed me that I need to call the receptionist to let her know when I was taking over the backup tapes and wouldn't be in the IT office. Um, it happens every night 15 minutes before close - so if you call and I am not here - that's where I am.
We promote family values here - almost as often as we promote family members.
Also, her 21 year old college drop out brother was the other VP. Not sure what his job was...
This describes my current place. Everyone in the family is either a President of .... or a Vice President of purchasing etc. Doesn't matter what happens they're not getting fired and they know it. There's pretty much two set of rules and that pretty much doesn't work. I've seen this structure work only ONCE and even then you'll never move up too far without marrying into the family.
Biggest red flag in my old job, 90% of the employees were related. Non family members weren't allowed to know what others earned. All family members had the highest paying positions and the biggest bully and thief was a family member who wasn't fired nor reprimanded. Anyone who left wasn't family and often left because of awful pay or harassment.
"Were like a family"
"Be willing to work in a fast-paced environment"
This is just code for "we will guilt you into doing things beyond your job, and we are poorly managed"
AGREED. I'm so tired of every job comparing itself to my family. You are not my family. You are a means to pay my bills. This is a job. Even if I like my job, comparing yourselves to being on the same level as my care and love for my family is an insult. They say this because they want you to treat it the way you treat family- like doing favors for them and putting all of your care and love into it. It also doesn't go both ways; if I need something, suddenly you're my employer again and 'family' goes out the window. It's unreasonable for employers to expect that level of care when you don't get the benefit from it the way an owner does. I'm making you rich. I get a base salary. If I'm doing something for you it's because I expect to be paid for it. It's not a favor. So I wish employers would stop with the 'we're family' junk.
Load More Replies..."We're like a family" is often followed by 'we work hard and party hard." That means they expect you to socialise as a group outside work, and all head out for a drink after work rather than use your free time your way. And if you don't socialise, you are regarded as not being loyal or dedicated to the company and only doing the job for the money, and you end up ostracised and isolated.
A hate the use of "family" at work. It's so disingenuous. Temp works, layoffs and action plans are things families don't do. I cringe everything I hear my coworkers use the term.
Here comes an excellent Ted Talk about how work is not family: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXPz0GIERow.
Fast-paced doesn't always mean that.... the job I work we have to react quickly because we deal with pop culture and that is an industry that moves quickly because of movies and TV shows being moved around and events popping up. You have to ask what they mean by that phrase.
If all of the other employees look sullen and depressed. If you walk into the office area and feel like you've walked into a funeral service. Nobody's smiling, nobody's laughing. Nobody looks remotely happy or content. Just turn around and walk back to your car. That is not a good place to be working at.
This one is extremely important for highly competative jobs. You see a much of people d doing a cool, high status job and they all look miserable to be doing it. I get that it was hard to get that job, but for your own sake turn and walk away. It's not worth it.
what if everyone is focusing deeply on work so are not smiling?
Load More Replies...Or if they seem happy enough but look around anxiously when the door opens. It's just not worth the constant tension of keeping an eye out for the boss coming back and yelling that you're not working hard enough because you dared to share a single joke with a colleague.
This is my office. Thankfully, I'm only here for another month. I'll be free soon
Load More Replies...Stop spying on me, please. I don’t want to be responsible for anyone catching the communal misery that breeds at my job.
When evert time you go to lunch, your boss asks if you're coming back.
I once, on the first day at a new job, began repeatedly projectile vomiting. I was in the restroom, and they heard me in the lobby. Turned out to be a completely toxic workplace. Later, I had a work injury, and while I was out, the FBI raided the files and closed the doors. All the higher ups were convicted of interstate fraud, real estate fraud, and issuing fraudulent documents including deeds to nonexistent properties. The actual assets were sold to repay what they took.
If you ever hear a higher up say anything along the lines of “I don’t have to do that because I’m a X”
As a manager/owner/lead/etc… Your job is to support your team, if that means as a store owner you’re cleaning puke off the bathroom floor guess what, you’re cleaning puke off the bathroom floor.
If you ever see a boss refusing to help when it’s busy or delegating a task poorly (eg the blind guy has to go pick stock while ur boss hangs out in the back room taking calls) quit.
This, I used to work in fast food and we would be getting hammered with orders and complaints. The manager and his favorite worker would be kicked back having a good time in the office knowing we were busy and a phone ringing non-stop right next to them.
So frustrating! I was once away from work for 3 days - on day 1, a giant outdoor poster board fell down in the middle of our parking lot. Big piece of garbage sitting in the way of customers. Instead of picking it up, my managers told me the day I got back “um that’s been sitting there for 3 days……” I literally saw red 🙃
Load More Replies...I had a boss that took ownership of our mistakes. If I messed up a batching job, she would tell me that it was her fault that she did not train me properly and would sit down with me one on one to work through the issue. The boss that followed her when she retired thought that calling everyone together in a meeting and pointing out your mistake in front of everyone was the way to solve the issue. As you can guess, I didn't stay long after that....
First boss is the way to do it. Take blame, give credit. People will follow you. Other way around people will leave you.
Load More Replies...I was one being interviewed for a special ed teaching job dealing with extreme disorders. The interviewer asked me "How comfortable would you be cleaning vomit or human excrement off the floor of your classroom?." I replied "A lot more comfortable than I would be leaving it there." You have to deal what's there to be dealt with.
I worked in restaurant management for almost 15 years. I always told my team that it's my job to make it easier for them to do their job! I would bus tables, get behind the bar make drinks, bar back, prep cook, take orders or seat tables. I think as a manager you need to know how to do any job in the business you're at so you're able to help out wherever needed whenever needed!! At one really small place I used to go pick up my daughter after I got off and then bring her back there to the restaurant and while she worked on her homework I covered the register so my other crew members could begin their closing side work. I've changed industries now and I'm currently working on learning all the different departments so that when I do move into management I can help out the same way.
i had a sales manager once hammering us about targets and call quality and our demo structure (we sold software). We asked him to demonstrate how he would present out solutions to customers and his response was "I'm the manager, I don't need to know the product". Lost all respect for him in that minute and never forgot. Now I'm in a management position it's my JOB to know the products and services inside out so I can support my team and help them get their numbers!
The boss does not even need to be good at whatever he jumps in to help with. Just the effort to pitch in says a lot of good things.
There must be something a boss can do! Anything would supply some moral support
Load More Replies...On an almost daily basis, I tell the people that I don't have to do stuff because I am a Unicorn Princess. It never gets me out of work, but I say it.
Unicorns are organised in fabulous egalitarian societies and share the workload to keep unicon society run smoothly, so what did you expect?
Load More Replies...You can’t teach what you don’t know, and you can’t lead where you won’t go.
The only way one can set realistic targets & timelines is when one's experience includes gaining skills & experience rather than being 'cherry picked' & plopped up in to a management position
Load More Replies...This is exactly why I feel that if you are the "manager" of a hospital department, you need to have the skills to step in on staff shortage day rather than hiding in your office doing paperwork/phone calls. Get your managerial butt out on the floor and help with patients or you're not qualified to "run" the department!!!!!!
Information overload. They expect you to understand everything and will somewhat train you Day 1. But after that day, they expect you to do everything to a tee.
Training takes a while.
A more practical way to say this: ask about onboarding process during interview. Be specific about how they will guide you through, how well organised policies are, can you look at their org chart and understand how to navigate, etc… Doesn’t have to be a deal breaker but it will expose HUGE red flags
Or if they look bewildered when you ask about training but say it's fine because "no-one else knows what they're doing anyway". I noped out of that one!
I once accepted a job running a big account for a well known toy company. When I started in the position they asked me to define the strategy for the next 5 years in just three weeks, because I was the expert and they had a deadline. Turns out they realised along they way they screwed up with their promises to the toy company when they couldn't do it, panicked, and though that bringing an expert will solve it like magic. Is not how it works pals, creating long term strategies take months and multidisciplinary teams, not to mention an immersion process to know the client first.
Training isn’t just for entry level jobs. All companies have different software and different processes. And having someone to guide you through the first few months is vital. Call it mentoring, training, something else, or even nothing at all… it’s training and it’s vital.
I agree but also disagree. If you are hired for a job that you claim to know how to do, I shouldn't have to train you. Orientate you to the company, sure but other than tweaks to be successful, you need to live up to your resume.
I worked with a woman who passively/aggressively refused to train me. I got thrown under the bus a couple of times so I trained myself (this was in software and there were a lot of tutorials out there). I ended up taking over her job (with a raise) and doing it better than she did. Karma is a b***h.
Team activities that happen every week. Casual fridays, team meetings, group presentations. Just let me do my job we don’t need to dress up for halloween at the office
God I hate teambuilding events with a passion. I was even once put on a disciplinary for refusing to wear their stupid T-shirt.
There's a difference between being able, and being expected..
Load More Replies...God, I hate team offsites that happen after hours. If you're not paying, I'm not doing. Also, sports events? Please no. Not everyone loves sports. I don't take my team for quiet time at the library!!
My problem with my job is that they want to have team building and meet the new hire gatherings at bars. I'm sorry, is there anyway to do this in a luncheon or small informal gathering without getting drinking involved. I've just had too many of those gatherings deteriorate quickly when it's obvious some of the group don't know when to cut themselves off a six glasses of Chardonnay.
Wow, that green glitter curtain would be awesome for a Matrix-themed party!
Fun fact: the lines of code in the intro? Sushi recipes. 🍣
Load More Replies...Previous employer. 2 hour monthly team meetings where we all had to sit and listen to updates from the whole team (which were immediately forgotten 2 minutes after the meeting) Each one started with an ice breaker question (what's your favourite colour etc). We had all worked together for at least a year.
Before my wife's job became permanently remote, they had blue jeans Friday where everyone who wore jeans donated $1. Each person could nominate a charity and they held a vote at the beginning of the year. The picked charity received the money at the end of the year. It was a very popular event.
Did you seriously just suggest that casual Friday is a bad thing? Who TF doesn't want to wear casual clothes on a Friday if it's business attire the rest of the week??
If it's forced rather than optional. Some people like their slacks, thanks.
Load More Replies...I've worked at a couple of places that had a lot of stuff like this, but it was strictly voluntary. Just fun stuff.
Same here. I think doing activities like this makes work more fun, but to be disciplined for not participating is crazy.
Load More Replies...If I'm not allowed to dress up for Halloween I'm not working there pfffft
I had a job interview a long time ago where I asked if there was any office dress code. The response I got was, "Just try not to wear your gang colors all the time."
Sounds like the original poster was a POC/BME. If so, that's an incredibly racist comment to have made.
Load More Replies...Me: "But everyone here is wearing red and yellow!" McD's Hiring Manager: "..."
I'm a McDonalds employee currently and our main crew shirts are actually blue (with the exception of promotional shirts and a couple of the managers' ones). The only red we've had was a promo one (in my defense, I've been working at McDonalds for a little over two years but still....Lol
Load More Replies...Salvation Army told me that it would be MANDATORY for me to wear a full length skirt and long sleeve button up WHITE top and HEELS! Walked right out!
Years go, a friend recommended me for a job at the company she works at. She said they had a pantyhose rule. I never heard of any workplace requiring pantyhose always with dresses and skirts. Found out later that the rule was in place to keep the men from being distracted. Nope. I'll stick with my current job. The pay was much lower, too.
I worked at an office that only required them if you were going to be wearing toeless heels or sandals. I kind of appreciated not having to see bare toes at work but to not distract men?! W t f.
Load More Replies...Hmmm.. the photo gives a wildly different impression. What gang wears pantyhose?
That is so good! I once had a job, right out of my second degree after college (wasn't the first! I should have stayed where I was!!) Where we took bets on who would be arrested on Monday mornings in front of everyone! And, my group of peeps and I decided to be nice to the angry staff because we never knew if they would go postal! It got me to my favorite job, but it took a while to get there!!
If a larger company buys your company out but says "Nothing is changing but the name and address that your paycheck is coming from" But then everything changes.
That happened to me a few times. It's great, if you have equity. It sucks when you don't. But this is pretty much the standard in Tech. I've been at a company that was acquired, then acquired by a larger company, then bought by a huge multinational, then we were bought my Microsoft, and everyone was laid off. This happened over 2 years. For those people who were early on for the original company, they made huge bonuses, as their original options converted to shares, to shares to shares, and finally Microsoft bought out all those shares for cash. But for those of us were like employee 500, rather than employee 5, we just got a pink slip.
Load More Replies...Yes, I remember them having a town hall meeting after our company was bought out and telling us our jobs were safe - well I had heard that before, so I started quietly cleaning out my desk, taking home my plants etc. I registered for the two courses I needed to finish my degree I had started years before in night school. My grandma even wrote me a cheque for the deposit which I still have a photocopy of. Lo and behold a couple months later, they laid most of us off, but off to school I went!
I know quite a few friends and relatives who have been in this situation. I've yet to hear of even one that experienced a positive change from a merger.
This happened to me once. They said we were merging, but nothing got merged, more or less take over. Vacation time changed! People had planned vacations/vacation days, and if you had not been at the company long enough, well you are out of luck! Prior to the merge, we had vacation from day one, at the new company, you had to be there at least 6 months. Could not wait to get the hell out of t here!
"Nothing is changing"....yeah, that's when its time update your Resume and get out. I've been part of the larger company buying out the smaller. Orders are, figure out what the smaller company is doing and bring it in house. Later, those that used to do the job are gone. Some essential are brought on, but everyone they used to work with are gone.
Yes, it's the lie you can rely on. It's almost as if "We won't change a thing" is corporate code for "We'll be downsizing and firing people as soon as we settle in, but you people need to be strung along during the transition."
If you get asked in interviews about how you deal with workplace conflict and how you get along with difficult personalities. If they’re asking about how you deal with difficult customers, that’s one thing. If they basically ask how you handle a toxic work environment, it’s going to be a toxic work environment. I very naively learned this the hard way.
I disagree with this one. Conflict is an inevitable part of dealing with people. Asking how a potential employee handles conflict can tell you things like are they likely to try and resolve it themselves vs running right to a manger, do they involve others, how things went afterwards, and you may also get a feel for how often they are involved in conflict and to what degree do things get escalated. All these are important to try and understand before bringing someone in. Hiring someone who always runs to management or doesn't have the skills to deal with disagreements could be toxic and could turn a tight, well functioning team into a toxic mess.
It depends how n how the question is asked. I've had it asked in ways that seem normal and legitimate. I've had it asked in ways that clearly indicate the job is going to be a s**t show. Just pay attention.
Load More Replies...I would now say “fisticuffs!” Don’t give me your toxic environment! And if you don’t get my sense of humour, I don’t want to work with you.
I was asked this question once and wish I'd left the interview for a SQL Developer. Turns out they had an employee who thought he knew everything with just four years of experience. He was such a jerk that the DBA's refused to talk to him and any questions he had were routed through his mgr. He regularly got into yelling arguments with other developers and was never held to account for his actions. Management's inaction led to 13 people coming in and leaving in the previous two years. He was so proud of it that he would take their name plates and paste them on the wall in his cube like trophy's. I gave them one year and took my name plate with me when I left.
I laughed out loud! That sounds like serial killer OMG I can’t believe they kept him! Probably out of fear. It’s not funny but oh my god my stomach hurts from laughing.
Load More Replies...I agree with the sentiment, but not necessarily the wording. This makes it sound like conflict only happens in toxic environments. Conflict happens anytime people disagree, see different angles because of their different life experiences, or simply have different amounts of information. Knowing how to handle conflict without acting like all conflict is toxic is an essential life skill. Acting like all conflict is toxic IS toxic. You’re basically saying “everyone needs to agree with me on everything”, and THAT is a huge red flag.
I hate conflict I do not handle toxicity well. I was at a place that was so bad I was verbally abused by a co worker with manager in ear shot. This woman had been there for years and it was clear she had the upper hand. Like I was raised I don’t say anything. I ended up leaving one day with a severe anxiety attack. Another day I had a full blown anxiety attack in front of other people. Very embarrassing. I usually let things go until I’m a mess and I end up quitting. Some people don’t handle toxic people well or large angry women who yell douche bag at every caller. Lol
That is a VERY valid question for anyone in a lead/management position, as I would use that to weed out any toxic behavior or answers. Also, on a peer to peer basis, this may be a required skill, not just in a customer setting, and can be useful to defuse an argument at an early stage, maintaining a good team spirit, not letting it fester and grow out of proportion if handled correctly.
We have an employee that throws a tantrum when things don't go her way. Wouldn't have hired her if I'd known she was such an immature child and didn't know how to deal with personalities SHE felt were difficult (but nobody else on the team has a problem with!).
Morning screaming and chants. Ringing a bell when you hit your quota.
Yes. I've only seen it at cold call telephone sales jobs.
Load More Replies...In my last job, the departmental senior decided to implement something he'd seen about improving interpersonal relationships and staff morale. He wanted us to meet in a huddle every morning at 8am and spend 15 minutes exercising and stretching whilst chanting motivational aphorisms like "today will be a great day!" He found some YouTube videos about it showing staff running on the spot, doing jumping jacks and chanting company mottos. There was total silence in the meeting after he presented his idea, and then the reaction was 50:50 hysterical laughter and "You must be f**king joking" disbelief. The proposal never got further than the senior staff meeting and was never talked of again.
Wow. Just wrong on so many levels. Unless everyone's job included running around and whatnot, that dangerously gets into medical privacy if one isn't healthy enough for said daily exercises. What, would he have required a doctors note to be excluded (again, gets too dangerously close to medical privacy)?
Load More Replies...I once went to an interview that had this kind of morning meeting. The lead salesman praised a woman for having a baby and returning to work 3 days later. I walked the f*ck out right then and there.
Ah yes. I would add any company that starts inventing their own vocabulary. Or they talk WAY too much about the founder. Is this a company or a cult? You know what's cool about Google, 90% of people on earth have no idea who founded them (Larry Page and Sergey Brin). Or who the CEO is (Sundar Pichai). If I have to care about who runs your company, then it's a cult of personality. FYI, not saying Google doesn't have major problems. I'm just impressed that the founders didn't make the company all about them. Pop-quiz, who founded Tesla Motors? Here's a hint, it wasn't Elon Musk (that was a hostile takeover).
This sounds like a stupid sales position, like frat guy business that is door to door or something along that line
Walmart tried that here in Germany - and they failed to get employess
Oh man i feel like my work place is filled with red flags. Like tonight for example, we had a 16 yr old get fired for being drunk while on the job and unable to function. They fired the kid about a month ago, I show up today and that same kid who they fired got his job back and was at work tonight.
It's sad when a place of business is so hard up on finding workers that they will rehire a 16yr old drunk
That helps as much as telling them "no" to anything, meaning that is "no" help, and it will have "no" effect on their behavior when they grow up. We taught our kid that everything has its place, and that the point of alcohol is not to show that you are a grown up or to get drunk, but to enjoy yourself, and that includes enjoying the taste. So our kid has been drinking alcohol since she was a teen, but she never chugged, she has never been fall-down drunk, and never drank something alcoholic because it had alcohol in it. On the other hand, her friends in college, whose parents totally prohibited them from drinking spent half the weekends enjoying their freedom from their parents getting drunk and doing really stupid stuff, because they were drunk. This included drinking enough to require treatment in some cases.
Load More Replies...The saddest part is that a 16 year old thinks it's OK to go to work whilst drunk.
This is all the information I need to bet that the job that keeps hiring this kid pays like c**p, has lousy benefits, has a horrible management team, and/or some combination of these. Pay a decent wage and I guarantee this problem goes away
Not sure how it works where you are, in Canada, alcoholism is considered an illness. Companies cannot fire staff with this issue, they are required to provide medical treatment through group insurance. Not quite sure of the requirements for casual/part time workers.
There was a guy fired from the Republican-controlled Indiana Secretary of State department twice for ineffectiveness, bad or no work habits, abuse of women, and other problems. He is now the Republican nominee for Indiana Secretary of State.
16? Sounds like, CPS needs involved in the family. It sounds like, this kid, has a horrible home life, and is trying to numb himself.. Has anyone tried to contact the parents about this? A 16 yo alcoholic. Something, is very wrong with this kids home life. I used to be a child advocate. This is a sign of abuse. sexual, or physical, or could be both. This is really sad...
A age 12/13 my dad told my brother and my that he knew we were at the age to want to try alcohol so he told us to try it at home (from fridge or pantry) at least we weren't out getting in trouble neither o ne of us ever drank except socially I think he had a good idea at least for us but then not all kids are mature enough to handle being allowed to decide on our own(we were children of divorce and u grow up quickly)
I had a job where one of the workers only came in when she felt like it and would gloat about it, another coworker called the boss a botch in front of customers got fired and hired back, we have a stocker that has been fired 3x and he's back, she talks about employees to other employees, if a person has a day off or an excuse for not being there and the boss calls to get you to come in the boss threw a temper tantrum saying she was a bad boss nobody wants to help her, she bitches because she has to come to work and work, she screams at you if you do something wrong she doesn't pull you to the side and talk to you no she screams and accuses you of things, that job was so toxic it was unreal. The a/c was out for 3 months during the summer and the heat from the kitchen comes to the front the sofa cooler broke so all sodas were hot the front door broke and the ceiling was caving in but kept complaining she had no money but just got back from paris switzerland ireland & always shopping.
High turnover. A team with 10% turnover in three years had a few bad employees. A team with 110% turnover in three years is a bad employer.
Sounds like when I worked in the Vitamins department at a certain farmer's market. I was there 2 1/2 years. While I was there, we went through probably 20+ employees; average time they stayed in the job was a few months. It was all because we had an utterly toxic, narcissistic dept manager (who sported a Karen haircut, outwardly hated other female employees, thought COVID was fake, and kept a kitchen steak knife in the desk drawer to open our load boxes with). I was the only one who was there for over a year. I was mysteriously "let go" after I'd had enough and reported her s**t to HR. From what I hear, she was "out sick" for 8+ weeks recently, but is back to her old shenanigans of chasing off every vitamins employee.
Well that seems strange that HR wouldn’t investigate your claims but let you go. Is that even legal?
Load More Replies...My last job had a HUGE turnover rate. We went through almost 500 new hires in the 7 years I worked there. Some would get hired and not show up, most would show up for a their first shift and either wouldnt come back after the first break or lunch break. Highly toxic place to work. Dont suggest anyone ever work for a plastics manufacturer. Yeah the job is easy, but you get treated worse than dirt.
As the saying goes "People don't leave bad jobs, they leave bad bosses". I've never quit a job I really liked, but I've left several because of management (or lack thereof).
The hiring manager who brought you in quit.
Worse: An interview, apparently successful, but the firm files for bankruptcy the next week. Are such new-hires merely more liabilities on a balance sheet?
Similarly: you go through three interviews where the hiring manager keeps saying “if it was up to me, we’d hire you today”. Then he writes and says that department was told they aren’t allowed to hire for that position.
Load More Replies...This happened to me. I had I boss I worked for that sold his business then started working at another. The same day I started, he quit. Like... I only took this job because you asked me! Now ur leaving? Wtf
That happened to me. Along with the owner obsessively watching employees on camera. I had a service dog in training. She was doing really well, but put her paws up on my desk ONCE. I immediately corrected her. Within mere minutes, the owner called manager, who called the manager I was training with (the one who had just put in her notice) to tell me that it was unacceptable and I wouldn't be able to have her with me. I quit that night.
I once had the hiring manager AND the head accountant be fired my 3rd day on the job. Only two people I had met at the company and they got fired before I was even done training
The guy who hired me two jobs ago had been hired a month earlier. Like me, he was a transplant from the coast in Vancouver, moved into the boonies out east. Tiny town. Little mom 'n pop grocery store. He was fired two months after he hired me because he was trying to change things in the store, and pissed off everyone, including the owners. Apparently he thought he knew how to run the store better than them. (The store has been there for 30 years now and is still thriving without him.)
My first teaching job, I was hired by the principal who was on his way out (but didn't tell me that). Should've been my first huge red flag.
Same here. My first teaching job, I was hired by the superintendent. He didn't know it, but he was about to be fired.
Load More Replies...While I was out on disability, a manager and an HR associate for fired for doing the Costanza at work. The HR manager tried to start my benefits at zero because she "terminated and rehired" me which was supposed to be a big favor. She got fired too
I started a new job, and on the second day, my boss and his boss (the CIO) told me they were both quitting. So now on my second day, I go from Sysadmin to CIO. I cleaned up the department and got things running right. When they moved the office to California, I declined the offer to move with the company. Then I got a job as a Sysadmin again. I hated parts of the CIO job so badly (budgeting, staffing, and such) that I literally took that title off my resume.
They’re looking for “rockstars”.
There's a chiropractor in my town that says they're looking for "an individual who can demonstrate amazing multitask abilities (workplace kung-fu) ... self-motivated, hard working, high energy, as well as loves games and rewards for reaching targets." They have had this listing continuously reposted on Indeed for over 2 years, and a sign out front of their building that says *always hiring*. Like that's a positive thing???? They literally can't keep their staff. They also say in ALL CAPS that no masks or vaccines are needed.... but that's a different conversation. Related. But different.
I reckon employers should be looking for Roadies, not Rockstars. Wouldn’t it be much better to have someone who is focused on doing all the behind the scenes work so that the client and service provider can enjoy a smooth run on the centre stage?
Would be fun to go in day one and trash the place like a rock star!
Load More Replies...I've had plenty of interviews who ask about my last leadership assignment/task. I'm not applying for a leadership position, wasn't in the job description.
Run! Because they're not going to pay you millions. They likely think of themselves as rockstars and that's a red flag. Ask folks who work for Elon Musk (who are not cultists).
Workaholics who the company can take advantage of
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One thing I look for when interviewing onsite is checking out peoples desks as I walk through the halls. If there are no personal effects or decor in workers cubicles, then that makes me think people just hate being there. I think if there are decorations, people are more comfortable and enjoy their job and workspaces and it's likely a more friendly place to work.
Or the opposite is true: they live there! Pictures of their children? They only see them when they finally have a day off
I have said drive by the parking lot an hour after what would be a normal day. Half the cars or more still there? Not good.
Load More Replies...We hot desk and have a clear desk policy, so you’ll never see anything on our desks!
That sounds just awful. I had the same office for 22 years. It was like another room in my house.
Load More Replies...Actually, I love my job, I just don't like clutter on my desk because it's too distracting.
unless the company has a clean desk policy (no clutter, cables hidden, etc etc
I used to work at a call center with a "clean desk" policy, that did allow things like laminated pictures on the cube wall or knick-knacks on the desk. Basic rule was liquids had to be in reclosable containers (so why they sold soda in cans in the break room, I had no idea) to avoid spilling into equipment, and NOTHING that could be used to record information (we handled financial info, so fair enough).
Load More Replies...What about in the event of agile working environment? You never have the same desk.
I dunno about this - I had the same office for eight years and never kept anything personal in it (other than my favorite drinks and snacks in my mini-fridge lol). I definitely didn't hate my job, but it was just that - a job - they had to pay me money to do it, I wouldn't do it otherwise... My goal was to do my duty as well as possible and then go home. Every minute spent relaxing and looking at pictures, etc meant potentially working another minute past when I'd usually go home - where all my good stuff is.
How about if they have a plaque that says DON'T FORGET YOU'RE HERE FOREVER and they put pictures of their daughter over it till it says DO IT FOR HER?
Trainers sleeping with the trainees.
Poor retention of staff.
Wine bottles in the toilet bins.
People constantly phoning in sick.
Companies that outsource majority of staff from agencies, 0 hour contracts are the norm.
Constantly having to speak with HR because of incorrect pay or not paid at all, bonus missing and all that s**t.
Companies not being able to supply all the kit needed for the job, you having to spend own money on kit.
Has a team specifically for beefing up its own reviews online.
An absolute huge team that deals with complaints and all things f****d.
I could go on but that’s kind of the flavour.
It depends... Are they full? Is it good wine? Do we get cheese to go with it? I really need more information here!
Load More Replies...as a retired corporate training manager, i can confirm i never slept with anyone i worked with.
If a uniform is required, then you will supply it. I will not be buying a uniform.
None of these are red flags that would show up during an interview, though? Except Macy's the stone bottle one if you go to the bathroom during our before said interview.
I hate working under a contractor. I just want to be hired direct already. I have great work history and references, with only one job left on poor terms since my manager was discriminatory against me. I shouldn't have to deal with stupid contractors that aren't available on weekends when sometimes I have to travel on short notice to other states. I missed an important 2 week training because I couldn't schedule a flight. F**k Kelly Services
Umm if any of this is appearantly viewed by potential applicatants there are far more red flags that you missed and their workers are really desperate.
Extremely high pay for what is a very simple, low effort job.
Bonus points if they have a sign that says 'Now hiring' outside, year round.
This indicates that even with a high pay rate, they cant keep people on.
There is a big company that always has job openings (and I've known them for at least 7-8 years). I've heard that it is their HR "strategy" to have a sort of database with CVs of potential candidates, as many as possible. But they also have a high turnover rate.
Whenever I see a "now hiring" sign at a corporate chain, I immediately wonder if it's because the higher-ups want to add more names to payroll since the more employees you have, the bigger the corporate tax cut. Bottom tier employees get nil, plus, chances are very high that their hours got cut right before the "now hiring" sign went up. It's just a fat, toxic load of horseshit greed.
More employees can mean more grant money too. I worked for a company that hired a bunch of people to get a grant and then laid them all off once the check cleared.
Load More Replies...It also means that extremely high pay rate only applies under specific circumstances. If anyone actually got paid as much as Cutco says they pay, professional Cutco salesmen would be roaming the landscape. Instead they are all kids who started three weeks ago. You aren't a "salesmen", you're a marketing tool to get to you friends and family.
Sometimes the advertised pay is extremely high because they are lying.
High pay, low work? I just might take that job and plan to bail after 6 months.
“Work hard, play hard” = “You won’t have a life outside the office, but we’ll pump you full of booze!”
YES!...or they make you socialize after hours with them...it's like how cults and abusive spouses separate victims from family and friends so that have no one left to go to...
This is so true if I see this saying I'm not even applying
Employers acting like they are doing a you a favor and they own you.
If they act like that in the interview, they are doing you a favor.
I get what you're saying but on the flip side, employees acting like they were kidnapped and forced to apply at this company. If you apply for a job that clearly states you need to wear a tutu, you don't get to act all surprised when that's exactly what they ask you to do. So many people come to work with the understanding of the job before they're hired and then act like they're being forced to work in an internment camp or something because they realize they don't like it. If you're told you have to work Saturdays and 3 months into the job you want to quit because you don't like working Saturdays that's not the employer's fault- that's you. If you apply for a full time job working nights, and you don't like working nights or have 'personal issues' that make it hard for you to work full time,.. again, that's you. No one conned you. Stop getting mad at your employer because you don't like the job you're qualified to do.
I had a colleague in IT who told me about his interview day with IBM. As he was shuffled from interview to interview, every one involved a lecture about how he was so special and fortunate to even get an interview with such an amazingly amazing and world renowned organization. He got so fed up with that hubris that he just walked out shaking his head in disgust.
I'm a private contractor (self employed) and have had to explain to a few company owners that they were not my boss, in fact, they were my client. I agreed to a certain hourly rate, but 2 years later decided it was time for a raise. The owner had a fit saying I wasn't asking in a professional manner. So I let him know I wasn't "asking" for a raise, I was informing him that I was raising my rates. The man was dumbfounded. I got the increase, but ended up quitting shortly thereafter, mainly because he was a complete d*ck.
If they're plastering "It's so much FUN to work here!", all over the place, RUN. I believe in good workplace morale, but if they have to advertise it, it's not.
Seriously? Yeah right, like any customer would ever believe that... If employees truly love their job, you can tell by their face, not some stupid shirt
Load More Replies...Or if there are "You don't have to be mad to work here, but it helps!" jokey posters around. In fact, any company who uses lots of exclamation points in their company emails, posters, memos etc. They are used to make it look like a fun place to be, but only management with absolutely no sense of humour thinks that it works.
Every min wage job flashed through my head and also the phrase LIES THERE ALL LIES
If they have a black out period for PTO from November to January 2nd.
I can see this with some jobs. However, if it's a medical/emergency services job. That's what you signed up for. Also, be thankful for those who dedicate themselves to care for us when needed.
Very common in retail/restaurants. The company will make 50% of its income over those 8 weeks. You know that when you sign up. The good part, you will make a ton of money in restaurants during that time.
Load More Replies...We have sort of a black out period, but it's because we deal with a Government deadline that has to be met or else there are huge consequences for our clients. However, after the deadline, they're like "Go on! Get out of here! Spend some time with family!!" And they give us extra days off.
I don't really understand this one. It's an extremely busy time of the year in retail so I get saying there are some blackout dates for vacations, especially if you have a small business with only a handful of employees. Also allowing someone to have it can cause resentment with the other staff, even if you try to set up a rotation. I prefer everyone works or the holidays are rotated. With a small business this could be difficult. As an example, we lost an employee one year in November and I was able to hire someone right away, but she informed me that she had a vacation booked that she couldn't cancel for the week of Christmas. I had told an employee who had worked the xmas before he could have it off. Of course I'm not going to go back on that. But now we're all stuck working alone during a busy week. It hurts the business and everyone is 100% more overworked. It just makes more sense to have a blackout period.
Just adding that I don't agree with some blackouts. Some companies have the entire summer blacked out. I think that's totally unreasonable. If you're that shorthanded than you need to hire more. But maybe July 4th weekend is off limits? Labor day? Okay I get that. If holidays are required (which in and of itself is ridiculous and corps should just stop this), then holidays should be off limits for vacays.
Load More Replies...I worked in a travel-related industry in south Florida. PTO is blacked out from mid-November through the end of March unless you're a VP+. They always had holiday bids though - e.g. if you worked Thanksgiving you'd have off either Christmas or New Year's. And then priority bid the next year (i.e. first choice of holiday off if you didn't get your first pick that year.) 24/7 operation with business demands surging ~3-4x during "season". Sucks, but people know what industry they're getting into!
That could be because end of year duties. That's not necessarily a bad thing. What if you have 100k 1099s you need to get out by Jan 1?
I mean, a lot of restaurants do this, but that's because the holiday season is by far the busiest. Vacation days are valid from January to mid-November in my restaurant, but they can promise anything during the season.
I work for a food wholesaler, and it's frowned upon to take time off in December, unless you're sick. However, as this applies to EVERYONE, including the top tier positions, I have no issue with it. I rarely take time off anyway. I'm off this coming week because I had to take the rest of my PTO before December, and I had to be pushed into it.
We live in a rural area with lots of ranches. My husband works as a truck driver for a local feed mill. They have a blackout period from October 1 until April 1. Yeah, it sucks, but I understand that’s their busy time. And the pay is very good (over $100k).
Machinists , if the shop is dirty and disorganized, if the coolant is disgusting and stinky, if everyone working there looks pissed off or dead in the eyes, if the person walking you around talks about how smart and important they are. Do not work there
This all damn day. If it's nasty and disorganized, they are probably worked like a rented mule trying to meet B.S. deadlines made by some salesperson or manager that wouldn't know an end mill if it was stuck up their butt, much less how to use it.
Yep, that covers most manufacturing jobs I've had... High turnover of lower managment , who have no industry experience and yet think they're "experts". They end up killing morale, leading to lower productivity.... Which leads to them getting sacked and replaced with someone equally clueless.....
Load More Replies...If you are in that field, ask who the department head is and what his qualifications are. If the head is not an engineer, toolmaker, or machinist, run. I've spent way way too many afternoons trying to explain why an idea is going to destroy a tool to someone with a biology degree. Or worse, an MBA.
I worked for my friend, he owns a mechanic shop. I was the secretary. Best job I ever had. It was so fun. We cut up all day, the work was super easy. I just wrote checks to pay bills and ran errands, I got paid to plant a garden out back including cannabis. (Legal state) it was honestly the best
Yes I have never personally worked in this field but I know enough that these are some serious red flags and I already want to punch the manager.
If there is a staff parking lot and all the cars are older / beater cars besides the management/owners cars.
I got hired many many years ago at Red lobster as a server and my first day of work when I was walking in I noticed five cars parked in front of the restaurant that all had all four tires slashed. I later learned that that was the entire management team and a former employee had done it. That should have been my first red flag! First of all why is the management team parking directly in front of the front door those spots should be reserved for customers anybody who works in a restaurant or retail knows that. So that shows you how entitled the management team is. At the end of that first day the chef and prep cook would take two lobsters out of the fish tank take the rubber bands off their claws and take bets on who would win in a fight and then let the lobsters fight. And sometimes they would actually eat the lobsters but sometimes they would just throw them away. I only went back the second day to return my uniform and training book and never went back.
Gross, I'd report them for animal cruelty.
Load More Replies...Maybe yes and maybe no. There were plenty of people that I knew that drove a crappy car to work because traffic was so horrendous that you didn't want to chance destroying your family car or new car. I rear ended a guy on the freeway..pushed the bumper in on his little hatchback. He just had me pay for the bill to get the bumper pushed out so he could open the hatch. I said "Are you sure?" He smiled and said "Yep..that's the work car. The nice one is sitting home in the garage."
Really the cars in the parking lot probably can't tell you much. I think the main takeaway here would be recognizing who owns what cars. If you come from my place of business you will see a bunch of nice cars. But then you realize we hire mostly high school and undergrad students who have some connection to the company. Mostly of, at minimum, upper-middle class parents who force their kids to have a job just to simply say they have a job. The few junkers you see, those are owned by the "lifers" who work here because they actually need jobs. But, if you can tell any of that by simply walking in for an interview, either they're personally telling you to eff off or you have much greater observation skills than should be wasted at a warehouse job.
When your supervisor and/or coworkers act like they think you hung the moon and stars by the end of the first month.
In my experience, this behavior just means that 1) they are two-faced backstabbers who talk s**t and spread rumors about you, and/or 2) they have very black-and-white thinking, and you’re handling a time bomb. Meaning if they think you’re an “amazing” person, and you do one little thing they don’t like such as make a mistake or ask them to correct something, they do a hard 180 and decide you deserve their eternal hatred.
Yep..been there done that. You’re an answer to pray until you make a mistake or dare ask questions about shady behavior. Then you’re the devil incarnate.
My last job was like that. It started all "you learn so fast!" and "every one gets a long time to learn the job", then after 6 months in this very complex job I had no training for, suddenly I was too slow and made too many mistakes. Add to this one controlling coworker who whispered into the boss's ear, and suddenly I was let go?! I could feel the boss losing all good vibes towards me after the 6 months mark. He outright hated me by the end.
One person like this when I was working a few years ago she thought she was better and knew everything But didn't
Probably not that old. Looks like a vintage computer expo.
Load More Replies...Yup, my undying hate goes to one guy who was promoted way above his competence level and badmouthed me to hide his own incompetence. For instance on one trip where I had problems with my ticket he left me standing at the Airport, plenty of others. One day we will meet again and you will not like it
Being hired on the spot
Yep! Once, I was hired on the spot. It was the most toxic place I have ever worked at!!!
Depends. I was unofficially hired on the spot when I applied for one full time job, but, because of both my education and job experience, they wanted me for a split position job they had been wanting to fill for a couple of months (essentially 2 part time jobs that because of the hours for each could be filled by one person). After interviewing with each relevant party, was told I had it, barring a any background check issues. Got a call about 2 hours later from HR with the official You're Hired.
Yep. Got hired "on the spot" at a big company. Worse management in that place ever.
Really depends. I work in the middle of nowhere, so when I walked in the door, they felt lucky they found someone with my experience and expertise out here. People prefer to work in the city, but I enjoy it here.
This might be controversial, and its probably not universally applicable... but for the sake of something original: Nobody on staff really seem like they are "friends" with one another.
This comes from personal experience with a large portion of my life where I used to job hop a lot. I feel like I could always tell whether the job would be good or not within a few days of starting just by seeing how the staff interact with each other. If your co workers talk a fair amount about non-work related stuff, or have inside jokes or hang out OUTSIDE of work hours, those are all generally super good indicators of a really solid and happy workplace culture.
Every job I have ever had where the workers only discussed work and didn't seem to have any interest in a more casual work relationship all ended up being miserable jobs by the end of my time there.
There truly is a "vibe" to a workplace... It doesn't take long to pick up on. I have had really tough jobs (for example, being a dockhand) that were incredibly fun and fulfilling, as well as jobs that should have been incredibly fun (like a rock climbing instructor) become the complete opposite purely off the vibes of the team.
Nah. I have no real interest in being friends with coworkers. I have my own group of friends. I don't need work people knowing a lot of personal stuff about me. There might be a couple people I chat with about outside stuff but that's it.
Same. I have been at this company for 9 years and while we may chat about a movie or a book or an upcoming non-work event, no one here really knows me. They only the basics. I work to live, I don't live to work. My most meaningful relationships have nothing to do with this job.
Load More Replies...I have to disagree. There are a lot of work places where the employees create their own "cliques." They tend to ignore the fact that they're in a workplace and act extremely immature.
This is why I hate those "I don't come to work to make friends" people. Great, but try not being a di*k and not actively fighting it either. You spend more time with these people than your other friends
Except people don't go to work to make friends. Why is it so important to you who others aside.from yourself decide to socialize with and consider a friend? Do you take it personally if someone you work with doesn't want to be your friend?
Load More Replies...I agree with the at least have inside jokes part. Definitely don't need to be friends outside of work but its easier to go in every day having someone you can roll your eyes with
With a lot of things, it depends. There's a happy middle. There are very few jobs where you can be cold and robotic to each other. If you can't feel comfortable enough to make small talk or at least make awkward silence less awkward then there's an issue. You don't need to be friends per se, but you can definitely be friendly. Whether that's sarcasm and mutual busting of chops, discussing the game, sharing fashion advice, or just make someone laugh and be a team player (helping co workers).
I used to work for a big company that every department seemed to have the correspondent friend-group. My department had more of a Queen Bee manager, that the more you multitasked, the more you did things outside your official responsibilities, the more she liked you. She treated the assistant manager, as her personal assistant too, giving her tasks even about her dog FFS, on top of the insane amount of work she already handled. I was one of many to quit that company, and never even tried to befriend my own department (other departments seemed more understanding of my predicament, but also circulated any negative comments I might make). Leaving that toxic place was a good decision, but I often think of that assistant manager, and how her talents go to waste really. She should be the manager with triple the pay, she already did both of their jobs. But has been brainwashed to think the sun shines from the manager's behind. Too bad.
I’d disagree, actually. I do have a friend or two from my work life, but I really prefer to keep my work and my personal lives separate.
I dis-agree with this a bit. I was hired as a teacher in a school. One first day of job, in break time, every body sat alone there. Nobody was talking with each other. That was very odd for me, a fun loving guy. From next day i started chatting and discussing daily stuff with my co-workers. Out of 1 or 2, replied positively or smiling to me. Those annoying people, I asked forgiveness from them. Suddenly their attitude changed and felt sorry from me. Those ex-annoying guys told me that they were already depressed with some issue and were sorry for their behaviour with me. Then there was a fun loving environment and every body chit chat with each other, eat together and discuss student matters with each other. Actually principal(also a fun loving good guy) were quite busy in his duty that he never had time for his staff and the staff felt that it is, as it is. .
I would add that this only works if they acknowledge you as well. Worst job I had was a kitchen were everyone hung out but completely excluded anyone new. I even disagreed with one of them and they lied to management to get me fired. My boss just said so and so's worked here for so long, why should I believe you over them. I cared about that job but in the end I got fired, wouldn't have cared except I was a single parent with an 8 week old baby at home. I still get pissed about it
My experience is the opposite. I made the mistake of befriending a coworker and supervisor. When that coworker decided she didn't want to be my friend anymore, the supervisor decided to make my life a living hell. I'm not saying you can't be friendly with those you work with, I'm just not sure if it's such a great idea to be friends.
There are some very very new workers and a group that has been there from the start,youre going to be treated like s**t by the latter.
I had such a female colleague who'd form small groups and bully the new colleagues, especially if they were young and inexperienced. As a former victim of bullying and mobbing, I don't react well to such things and I'm ready to step in (that includes written report to HR). Perhaps that's why she always avoided me.
The job I am at rn. The oldies gang up on the new ones and gossip behind their backs 24 x 7
Hate bullies best way to handle them is to confront them most are just hiding their cowardice
Sounds just like my previous place of employment. Two horrible Karens that had been there for 8 yrs bullied everyone including the owners. One of them continuously made derogatory comments about my faith, made fun of my southern accent, mocked me because of my physical disability & would hack into my workstation & try to sabotage my work. I stood my ground with both of them & called them out on their bs. Documented their atrocious antics, reported to the useless HR person & got retaliated against. Their behaviors & treatment towards me were so extreme that I hired a legal team & sued the s**t out of them. Cost them over a half million $$$ in legal settlement + attorney fees. Plus they lost 2 huge accounts because these customers heard about the way the Karens treated me. Karma beat the Karens.
I stand my ground don’t mind being viewed as angry or insubordinate. Do your job and I’ll do mine because I’ll do what’s necessary to make you understand I don’t play with ignorance.
This seems to be for entry level positions but it also applies to work that is "manly" as a man you can expect that this will happen until you either prove yourself or otherwise get the more senior employees to shut up.
Ah! This one. They make sure to tell you about how long these people have been there but don't even talk about the others.
When the ad says they're looking for a "Team Player". Every single company I have ever worked for, bar none, that has asked for a "Team Player" has now left me taking that to mean: "Someone who can be as dishonest as we are, just to make the Sale or keep the Lie alive". No thanks. I'm not corruptible and will always stay honest, thank you very much.
A super low retention rate. Any place that's had multiple managers over a short period of time is a red flag
they’re all overly nice to you in the beginning and accommodate you, but once you get settled they do anything in their power to abuse you
When the contract includes the words “Reasonable Overtime”, without any definition of what “Reasonable Overtime” is……
Lol seriously. Competitive for what? Minimum wage?
Load More Replies...the safety inspector at your work is homer simpson
If its a restaurant, the people from the kitchen don't eat there.
If its a store check how little they care if you do something incorrect. See how few attention they put in keeping things in order.
If its office work check how the workers look and move, their posture and body language. You can even smell the stink of stress and dispair
If it’s a fancy restaurant, they usually can’t afford to eat there. I worked in several and the pay was abysmal.
They don't eat there because 1) Who wants to eat what you spend ALL DAY looking at 2) We can't Afford to !
I'm a little on the fence here. If it's a fancier restaurant, they usually have a staff meal to go over the dishes for the day and often just to have a family-style meal with the staff. But smaller restaurants and fast food style places can't afford this and often don't allow anyone to eat there for free. I would say that if they do get the food for free or there's a discount and they *still* don't eat there, that's a red flag, lol.
>> If its a restaurant, the people from the kitchen don't eat there. A close friend worked as a pest exterminator, debugging many eateries. He refused to eat in any building over two years old because pests accumulate. Red flag: Eatery staff totes lunch-bags to work.
Oh my God so true!! If you notice that all the employees that are on a break are eating food from somewhere else run!! Also if it's a restaurant and they don't offer their employees free lunch or only offer 50% off run!! Sure I know some people abuse the privilege however it should be offered at least!! There's nothing more disrespectful than working somewhere surrounded by food serving that food preparing that food and then being told you have to pay to have a small portion of it!! And pay full price with the money that they gave you to be there in the first place!
Jobs with no remote work flexibility, where applicable, of course.
I’ve seen it before, picture this:
Food, snacks, and beverages all day.
Alcohol, bought by the company, that you can have after five.
On-site gym, child care, movie theater, rec areas.
Play guitar? Bring it in and play a bit! Keep it at your desk!
Need a minute to mess around on the internet? Go for it!
Oh, and you have unlimited time off!!!! (As long as you can stay on top of your work)…
They. OWN. You.
Your life is now all there, as far as they are concerned.
Those amenities mean you are expected to spend most of your time at this workplace. Overtime is expected.
Load More Replies...Well, with inbuilt child care it's actually a plus because you don't have to worry about dropping off and picking up your kids. You know your kids are being taken care of and you can check in on them, even have your coffee break with them. It's also good if your previous child care was a friend or neighbour who could say the night before that they have to do something the next day and you have to make other arrangements which is usually impossible, leaving you being unable to work and be without salary for being off and who can afford to do that nowadays?
When everybody saying to you " Its s**t"
Conveniently small amount of Glassdoor reviews, all glowing. Company I used to work for was awful, and they had loads of 1-star reviews (with a lot of substance behind them). Conveniently enough, they've all gone recently, to be replaced by a handful of 5-star ones.
They say "the Best Idea Wins" a lot. That's a great thing if true, but if they're advertising it, they're probably kidding themselves.
I would add to this to look at the rent for apartments in the 5-10 mile radius you're required to work at. If the rent required is 3300 a month on average and they pay you 15 an hour, they don't pay you enough to live reasonably and they probably don't care and will never pay you well. They know there's no way you can afford to live in NY, Boston, etc. with the 15 bucks an hour they pay. There's no point in working somewhere that far away if you're talking 60-80 bucks a week to fill your tank twice plus upkeep.
Not saying these are not good reasons to not take a job. But if you fallow all of these it covers ever job everywhere. So if you are not willing to put up with some of this at least in varying degrees you probably won't work anywhere. And yes that would make me happy but turns out you need money so live so...
Not true. There are good jobs and good employers out there who don't follow this kind of stuff. How do I know that? I found one myself after job hopping since I entered the work force at 18. I'm 23 now and in the trucking industry with a company that actually cares about safety and respect. I got here because I didn't put up with s**t. Yeah, it was a struggle, but I know my worth, and I know that I deserve to be treated with respect and earn what I've worked for. If you're saying that this advice shouldn't be followed - you've given up and resigned to misery. Get your head up and out of the clouds and see the sun, it's possible to have a good job. You just gotta keep going.
Load More Replies...I had a boss that required woman to wear full make-up. They said it was equal to require men maintain their beards.
Ugh no. And I feel like that should be illegal or something. I was watching The Good Wife the other day and there was an episode where one of the male judge was forcing the female lawyers to wear skirts in 'his courtroom'. I know it's just a tv show but I was infuriated anyway, lol. That stuff still happens.
Load More Replies...If the whole labor force, or majority, is made up of women, but the supervisors and managers are men, be cautious. Its often a job thatvwill overwork and underpay you, and ignore sexual harrasment.
Work is a scam. We've all been forced into a rat race where we have to wear ourselves out to make someone else rich. Every job is a horror show and every job exploits you. Most jobs contribute to destroying the world.
Many years ago I applied for a home loan 6 months after moving to a different state to look for work. If the loan officer at the bank suddenly has a change of heart and attitude about even dealing with you once he finds out where you work - you might be in for a rough ride. I know I was.
I would add to this to look at the rent for apartments in the 5-10 mile radius you're required to work at. If the rent required is 3300 a month on average and they pay you 15 an hour, they don't pay you enough to live reasonably and they probably don't care and will never pay you well. They know there's no way you can afford to live in NY, Boston, etc. with the 15 bucks an hour they pay. There's no point in working somewhere that far away if you're talking 60-80 bucks a week to fill your tank twice plus upkeep.
Not saying these are not good reasons to not take a job. But if you fallow all of these it covers ever job everywhere. So if you are not willing to put up with some of this at least in varying degrees you probably won't work anywhere. And yes that would make me happy but turns out you need money so live so...
Not true. There are good jobs and good employers out there who don't follow this kind of stuff. How do I know that? I found one myself after job hopping since I entered the work force at 18. I'm 23 now and in the trucking industry with a company that actually cares about safety and respect. I got here because I didn't put up with s**t. Yeah, it was a struggle, but I know my worth, and I know that I deserve to be treated with respect and earn what I've worked for. If you're saying that this advice shouldn't be followed - you've given up and resigned to misery. Get your head up and out of the clouds and see the sun, it's possible to have a good job. You just gotta keep going.
Load More Replies...I had a boss that required woman to wear full make-up. They said it was equal to require men maintain their beards.
Ugh no. And I feel like that should be illegal or something. I was watching The Good Wife the other day and there was an episode where one of the male judge was forcing the female lawyers to wear skirts in 'his courtroom'. I know it's just a tv show but I was infuriated anyway, lol. That stuff still happens.
Load More Replies...If the whole labor force, or majority, is made up of women, but the supervisors and managers are men, be cautious. Its often a job thatvwill overwork and underpay you, and ignore sexual harrasment.
Work is a scam. We've all been forced into a rat race where we have to wear ourselves out to make someone else rich. Every job is a horror show and every job exploits you. Most jobs contribute to destroying the world.
Many years ago I applied for a home loan 6 months after moving to a different state to look for work. If the loan officer at the bank suddenly has a change of heart and attitude about even dealing with you once he finds out where you work - you might be in for a rough ride. I know I was.
