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Guy Finds Out Sad News From Doctor, Blames His Ex-Wife For It
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Guy Finds Out Sad News From Doctor, Blames His Ex-Wife For It

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Many people will go above and beyond for the sake of love. Some will uproot their lives and move to be with their partner across the globe. Others will evenswitch religions to spend a lifetime with another person. 

Then, there are a few who would take things a step further. A man hesitatingly agreed to have a vasectomy because his wife didn’t want any more children. But after his spouse divorced him years after the procedure, he began to harbor regret and deep resentment toward her. 

The author has since chosen to stop communicating with his ex-wife and is asking the AITA subreddit if he was wrong for doing so. 

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    Vasectomies are significant, life-changing procedures for any adult male to go through

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    This man agreed to go through the procedure because of his wife, who ended up divorcing him

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    Filled with regret and resentment, the author cut all communications with his former spouse

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    He has stood by his decision, but it made him wonder if he was in the wrong

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    There are procedures to reverse vasectomies, and they have a high success rate

    Vasectomies are reversible, contrary to what the author stated in his post. According to an article by Stanford Medicine, vasovasostomy procedures have a 90 to 95 percent success rate. 

    These operations are rampant since six percent of men (around 30,000 each year) change their minds about their desire (or lack thereof) to have children again. 

    There also is no specific timeline as to when you should have your vasectomy reversed after having it done. According to the article, patients have high success rates three decades after the procedure. 

    The recovery process is likewise relatively hassle-free. Patients can return to their desk jobs after three days and strenuous activities after a month. However, it can take between a month to a year before signs of sperm presence can appear in their semen. 

    The author could find a second opinion and have his vasectomy reversed, especially if he still has plans to have children with another woman. 

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    The “no contact” rule is sometimes necessary after a breakup

    While both parties are affected by their failed marriage, the husband carries more burden because of what he has to endure. It may take him a while to let go of the resentment he harbored. 

    A “no contact” rule may help in this situation. As NYU Steinhardt’sDr. Ernesto de la Rosa explained in an interview withVery Well Mind, breaking this agreement may only keep the intense, bitter emotions at an all-time high. 

    Family therapistLeanna Stockard, LMFT, shared a similar sentiment in the same interview. According to her, having zero communication can help prevent a person from sliding back to their old relationship ways and bring them back to square one in their progress. 

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    In the husband’s case, being on speaking terms with his wife could make him feel like nothing happened. It could only cause him to hold onto his grudge and prolong his misery. 

    He could eventually restart communication with his ex-wife, knowing his fixable situation could help him patch things up. But in the meantime, the author has the right to go without contact, especially if it helps him heal. 

    What do you think, readers? Was he out of line for cutting communication with his ex-wife/the mother of his only son? 

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    The author shared more details by answering some questions

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    People in the comments had mixed reactions, while a few of them shared some advice

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    SillyPandaBunny
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Extremely immature person. She didn’t hold a gun to his head and force him to get a vasectomy. If they were still married would still refuse to talk with her? She could be crying over so many different things that have nothing to do with him. He’s assuming she’s crying because he won’t talk with her. Sounds like the only person he’s really hurting is his son. Parents usually will put their children’s feeling first not their own.

    AndyR
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds like he has problems owning his own behaviours. He chose to go through with it and would have been warned about the risks.

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    StevieLove
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA. Grow up and educate yourself. You’re hurting your child. Stop being a garbage person.

    BeesEelsAndPups
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think using the sister as a go-between is stupid. There are co-parenting apps. I have one and use one. I also communicate via email and text if there's an emergency. But I don't chat with my ex, her choice entirely. That's fine by me, it's what she wants. HOWEVER, it would not be okay for me to bring my child into a dispute with her. If I were to start crying or complaining that I miss her or some such nonsense in front of my child, that is now parental alienation. I am attempting to make my child hate their parent for hurting me. This is what this dude's ex is doing. Is he being childish? 100%. Does he have a right to not communicate with his ex? 100%. Should she be complaining about him to their kids? NO

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    Nicky
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can also have sperm withdrawn post vasectomy and do IVF. I did this with my then partner. A vasectomy doesn't mean the man can never father biological children if he is willing to do this simple needle withdrawal procedure.

    EmJay
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “You make it sound hopeful”. There. I fixed it for you

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    Nitka Tsar
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny how he thinks his wife should not cry before his son „because it‘s bad for him“ but doesn‘t see a problem in the kid seeing him not speak to her. I could be wrong, but I think the kid will resent his Dad one day. I don‘t think she forced him to do the procedure (it does not sound like she threatened him or something). I get it. He wanted more kids and now he is devastated. But life sometimes happens that way. I think it’s ok to not speak to her for a time, but he could have communicated it more maturely to his wife AND his kid. And he could have frozen some sperm or divorced sooner maybe… or they might have talked sooner about how many kids they want. I don’t know. I think it’s ok to be sad and mad but his post sounds a bit immature to me

    Aelin Wildfire
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If he was concerned, then why didn't he freeze some sperm before he got the procedure done? That was an option. And like one of the commenter said, he -is- still a parent. That means he needs to keep lines of communication open. It really sucks that he no longer has that choice, but it was freely given up, and no one else is to blame for it.

    Ephemera Image
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He is a parent, who is telling his son that he is not enough, that he wants more kids. While hurting the boy's mother.

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    Tristan J
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course Reddit users would think he is being reasonable and rational, not that he needs therapy to sort his projection out.

    Katharina Sei.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can it be that someone has a vasectomy and thinks it is reversible? Did he not get counseling, did he not listen? Being angry with his wife 5 years after the procedure may make sense emotionally, but objectively it is nonsense. It was a decision that he ultimately made himself. Not talking to someone with whom you have to clarify things like raising children seems immature and ridiculous to me. Especially when it happens from one day to the next.

    Winnie the Moo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally the AH! Set your own feelings aside for your kid! He deserved a mom and dad who can co-exist together and not be two children who don’t talk to each other!

    Crouching hippo hidden panda
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is incredibly immature, this guy needs therapy. Holding a grudge 5 years after the fact, and refusing to coparent like a mature adult over something that, as other people have said, can be worked around with another procedure if he wants more kids. But pathetic and I feel sorry for the kid

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    Pewpie Diaper
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Relying on your sister to communicate for you is childish. It's also completely unfair to your sister.

    Hphizzle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor kiddo. He’s stuck with two immature parents. Pops needs to grow up and co parent like an adult and mom needs to move on and find more supportive relationships. He’s 11. He knows what’s going on.

    Nicky
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They can extract sperm surgically without reversing the vasectomy so see an IVF specialist. My then partner and I did this. You have wrong info if you think you are unable to biologically father more kids. This post spreads wrong info since you can extract sperm without a reversal procedure.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Our divorce was amicable." "I'm mad because my wife divorced me." So which is it? This says everything I need to know. Yeah, reluctantly getting a vasectomy and then the relationship not working out sucks. But YTA for blaming your ex.

    Mary Lou
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If there is one thing we know for sure, it's that OPs ex had nothing to do with the vasectomy being permanent (it's not like she did the cutting). So OP clearly just needs someone to blame and suffer for his pain and regrets.

    Upstaged75
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This dude sounds like a whiny teenager. How ridiculous!

    Stacy Jones
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think he's TA for not wanting contact with his ex - that's his right, his process, and what he needs to heal, and she isn't entitled to have him in her life, like another commenter said. However, he IS TA for holding onto so much resentment over medical procedure that ultimately he agreed to have. It's NOT her fault that he can't have more kids, and he needs to understand that before he "gets rather serious" with anyone else.

    arthbach
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Stacy Jones, he can want to have not contact with his ex all he wants. However, he NEEDS to have contact with her because they have a child together. A co-parenting app would be an excellent way to do this - no talking required, and a record kept of the conversations on the app.

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    Mariaf
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would he be as pissed at her if he initiated the divorce and not her? How much of this is "I will never have anymore kids" and how much is "the b had the audacity to leave me"

    Laura
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many family court systems have an app or a portal where divorced parents who can't get along can communicate about their kid(s).

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Get over it, you can always adopt, but you shouldn't until you work through whatever issues you're going through.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Adoption isn't the same as having your own biological children. You know that. Many people aren't going to be happy with adoption.

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    Deborah B
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Way immature. It's a loss, and he's grieving. If he needs some temporary distance for his mental health, it would be sensible to ask for contact only via a coparenting app, or only as strictly necessary regarding their kid. He also needs to recognise that it's not actually her fault, any more than his, that his vasectomy may not be reversable. He agreed to do it. Now he's changed his mind. Anger is part of grief, but he needs to work through it, and not let it hurt the son he has. It's not fair to put him (or OP's sister) in the middle. Act like an adult, and be civil for the sake of your son. And get a second opinion, there may still be hope.

    Lyoness
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the sanest and clearest post on this thread so far IMHO.

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    Negatoris Wrecks
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Starting to see why they didn't work out. Guy's a Grade-A jerk.

    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She didn't put a gun to your head, you decided to get the procedure. Now you aren't happy with it and you choose to blame her. Grow up and take responsibility for things.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders reversed?

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    Livingwithcfs
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's a whining little boy. He needed to sign the approval for surgery, the surgeon would have asked him if he was sure he wanted the vasectomy because it's a elective procedure. Sometimes these operations are reversible but not often and this would have been explained to him. His problem is he doesn't want to take responsibility for his choices. Spitting the dummy out of his cot isn't the actions of a

    just me
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's okay to be angry. He wanted more kids, but went along with something his partner wanted that would prevent him from having them. I'd be angry, too. I think he may need some help in dealing with his anger. Part of that would include accepting responsibility for his choice and that some (maybe a lot) of that anger is directed at himself.

    Beef Brisket
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Curious if some posters would respond the same way if the genders were reversed--if a woman who wanted more kids was pressured into getting her tubes tied by her husband, and they then divorced and she's been told she's permanently infertile. I wonder if some would still be saying to a woman, "Well, he didn't hold a gun to your head" or "This was a joint decision you made."

    Negatoris Wrecks
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is exactly what they say. It happens all the time. If you can even get someone to tie your tubes before you've popped out 2 babies, that is.

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    Calunii
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP is the AH in the sense that he isn't putting his kid first. Communicating with your ex wife via your sister is just not a healthy way to deal with this. However, as a woman, I do feel like some of the responses on Reddit and over here would have been waaaayy different if OP was a woman talked into getting her tubes tied. It seems that people don't take the trauma that this man probably endured from this seriously. I hope he gets a second opinion and that his first doctor was wrong, but if it turns out that his procedure isn't reversible then that is definitely devastating for this man. Sure there are still ways he can have children, but we don't know his financial situation and if he can afford those procedures.

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be honest, I don't care about the two so-called adults here. They should keep their business to themselves and not burden their child with it.

    V
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If he wanted more kids and she didn't, they should have split then.

    Gwyn
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He seems very immature and like he's looking for someone to blame for a problem that has not really even affected his life yet. I think he's displacing some other anger over the divorce into this issue and blowing it up. And he claims it's for his mental peace? Sounds more like his ex is a nice person who cares about him and he's just running away from his emotions, he doesn't want to talk to her because he doesn't want to deal with difficult feelings. He's setting a terrible example for his child as well. This is not how you deal with things as a grown up. It's no wonder they got divorced with his attitude.

    DarkViolet
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Genuine question: if OP'S ex didn't want kids, why didn't SHE get snipped?

    Enuya
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In some countries (i.e. Poland) it's legal to have vasectomy but illegal to have tubal ligation - if they're from US they may live in a state with similar problem. Also, even in places where it's legal to have your tubes tied doctors often refuse to do thys either because "morals" or because "you can and will change your mind" - getting vasectomy is easier.

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    Ali
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See, I'm guessing this behaviour is why she's his ex in the first place. I feel sorry for his son, how is he going to be able to celebrate any accomplishment in the future if his dad is being such a twat? Graduation, marriage, milestone birthdays, everything, his dad is going to make about himself.

    millac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does this guy even have a new partner he wants to have kids with??

    Panda Kicki
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is not just about the reversal. For every year after a V-sec the risk of sperm going in autoimmune mode increases. So even with TESE (needle removed sperm) you cant be sure it works. V-secs should be seen as total and final as all other outcomes are a happy bonus.

    El Dee
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one has to speak to their ex. Don't force people to do it. As long as there can be communication over the kids that's all you need. In his case he has lost the chance to ever have children and feels he was railroaded into it. If the shoe was on the other foot I don't think anyone would see any issue with having a clean break..

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op needs to worry less about the kids he isn’t having and more about the kid he has. That means positive co parenting.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Grow the absolute fúck up and take some responsibility for your life. This is so embarrassing for this guy. It's not like anyone was holding a gun to his head and they divorced FIVE YEARS LATER. Get some therapy and do NOT procreate further until you feel the same cringe as everyone else does when reading this. That poor kid. He will never come first in this dude's priorities.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why are people responding so differently with the genders flipped?

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    Marilyn Whitby
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. Your poor son. Grow up and take responsibility for your own decisions, you can't blame your ex or anyone for the things you chose. She didn't give you a vasectomy while you were sleeping, you agreed to it. There are plenty of children in the world without fathers, be a foster dad and help someone instead of whatever this immature behavior is. Not talking to her solves absolutely nothing, but it does make you look like a child.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    JuniorCJ82
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    BlueGreen totally missed the point.

    DC
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kind of YTA. Your wife made you do it ... yeah, maybe that's so, but, that another person can make you do stuff to an extent that you're absolved of any responsibility, in itself, is already wrong and your fault. If you didn't come to agree with the vasectomy, you shouldn't have had it done. This is different than being convinced of something by somebody - it reads like she ordered it, and you obeyed. The debate, it seems, had been closed prematurely, as ... after all, you get to decide about your body, and you either were too easy to convince to obey rather than being truly convinced of the surgery in question. Either way, YTA, but not really extreme ... appears rather dumb than evil, kind of, ... but, who has convinced you not to speak with your ex wife again? Own idea, this time?

    Katchen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder what this guy’s plan was for birth control, had he refused the vasectomy? Short of condoms, most forms of birth control are a burden on the woman; sometimes an extreme burden.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The wife needs to take responsibility for her own birth control rather than trying to force her husband to get sterilized.

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    Shark Lady
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even if he felt coerced, and I understand that he is now struggling, he would have had time alone with his doctor and could have said he wasn't requesting the surgery voluntarily. All doctors are aware of toxic and abusive relationships, this was only ten years ago, his doctor could have come up with a medical reason why it wasn't a good idea and he could have used condoms instead. They need to come up with a different solution which doesn't have a negative impact on their son.

    Jay Cee
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HUGE AH. Your body, your choice works for all the sexes. After we'd had two babies within 3 years we decided it was enough and I had a snip. The doctor went to great pains to set out the consequences. OP needs to pull on his Big Boy pants and move on - there are plenty of kids out there waiting to be adopted.

    John MacAninch
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He needs to grow up and stop being a little boy

    Anna Drever
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially in these times I can fully understand why any woman wouldn’t want to risk getting pregnant. This might not have been the case back then but women can’t find doctors to sterilise them because hubby might not like it, or you’ll change your mind??? Whereas men don’t usually have this trouble.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an absolute wanker. And no, she's not crying about your dumb áss.

    Karen Bird
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He sounds life a pathetic whiny little nightmare! If I was his ex I'd flat out refuse to soak to the sister and make it known that if the sister tries to soak to me I'd take him to court! If he complained about that, maybe he'd realise what an absolute spoiled little brat he is! Absolute 🔔 🔚

    Steve Hall
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP made the choice to have the procedure, he should have tought it out better.

    Marsha Workman
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He needs to own what he did and stop whining about it. He's the one that went to the doctor. He's the one that signed the papers for it. No one can "force" you to do what you do not want to do. He needs to stop pointing the finger at his ex wife and grow up.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    dandylilah
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Step-mom of 2 here. I get it. NTA.

    Gavin Johnson
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone who can’t / won’t take ownership their decisions and then uses that weakness to negatively impact on their child and ex-wife. My ex-wife and I had an amicable break, it wasn’t without troubles but for the sake of our daughter we behaved like adults. Now, seven years later we are still friends, we can visit our daughter’s school together or watch her in a dance recital together. We made errors, we own them, we don’t play the blame game and we still put our daughter first, that’s the adult thing to do.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into having her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    Meagan Glaser
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "we amicably divorced" but once something happened afterwards it was "she divorced me" They decided not to have kids, he went and got a vasectomy, but once he wanted to hit "undo" and couldn't it became "she coerced me" Dude is a child. Whenever he regrets something, the decision automatically becomes some one else's fault. He's probably "manipulated" and "tricked" into a LOT of things in life. I'm sure he's a victim every time he doesn't like something.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife to get her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    Robert Bloch
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He is entitled to respond in accordance with how he feels and no one has the right to tell him he's wrong. If his wife felt that strongly about it, she should have got her tubes tied. His only fault is trusting a woman that wasn't worthy of it. On a personal note, I once dated a single mother who, after a time, asked me to get the snip. I said no. I was 20 at the time, and it seemed like too drastic of a step. Wanting to be a father to a child of my own as well, I realized I wouldn't be experiencing that with her. I ended it right away. While it's a crappy way to enter a relationship, in today's, world a man has to protect him self from a less honorable woman. On a final note, if men aren't allowed to weigh in on the topic of abortion, then conversely, women don't get to have an opinion about vasectomies. My body, my choice.

    Negatoris Wrecks
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was his choice. He just didn't like it so he's retroactively turning what was probably (from his intentional lack of detail) a normal family-planning discussion into getting robbed by gunpoint because he has a lack of accountability and doesn't know how to process his emotions, which is most likely why she divorced him.

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    Couragetcd
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is probably an entitled man whose divorce was the first time something in his life didn't work out the way he wanted and planned, and hearing a doctor say his snip couldn't be reversed was the second thing. Only the well entitled would enact the stop, pout, and blame game immediately at the first hint of a speed bump.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    PeakyBlinder
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why does he punish his ex for his decision? Yes, it was his decisipn, she did nor force him. And obviously she did not leave him to have more kids with another guy - in that case i could maybe understand his reaction - but the separation was a joint decision. So please get your s**t together and stop behaving so ridiculously

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    Cee Cee
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should have done his due diligence before surgery.

    Sarah Matsoukis
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    1 year ago

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    The person who doesn't want more kids should get the procedure done. Also , doesnt he still make sperm that Just gets reabsorbed by the body, that could be used by a doctor?

    Beth Wheeler
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    1 year ago

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    Why didn't she get a tubal ligation instead of you getting a vasectomy? There are also other options for birth control. Go go another Urologist that specializes in vasectomies and reversals for a second option. At some point you will have to talk to her about decisions about the kid. What if he was to get sick or hurt?

    Rebecca Samuel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A tubal ligation is a much more serious and invasive procedure than a vasectomy.

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    nm (he/him)
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    1 year ago

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    It seems that condoms have not invented yet.

    SillyPandaBunny
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Extremely immature person. She didn’t hold a gun to his head and force him to get a vasectomy. If they were still married would still refuse to talk with her? She could be crying over so many different things that have nothing to do with him. He’s assuming she’s crying because he won’t talk with her. Sounds like the only person he’s really hurting is his son. Parents usually will put their children’s feeling first not their own.

    AndyR
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds like he has problems owning his own behaviours. He chose to go through with it and would have been warned about the risks.

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    StevieLove
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA. Grow up and educate yourself. You’re hurting your child. Stop being a garbage person.

    BeesEelsAndPups
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think using the sister as a go-between is stupid. There are co-parenting apps. I have one and use one. I also communicate via email and text if there's an emergency. But I don't chat with my ex, her choice entirely. That's fine by me, it's what she wants. HOWEVER, it would not be okay for me to bring my child into a dispute with her. If I were to start crying or complaining that I miss her or some such nonsense in front of my child, that is now parental alienation. I am attempting to make my child hate their parent for hurting me. This is what this dude's ex is doing. Is he being childish? 100%. Does he have a right to not communicate with his ex? 100%. Should she be complaining about him to their kids? NO

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    Nicky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can also have sperm withdrawn post vasectomy and do IVF. I did this with my then partner. A vasectomy doesn't mean the man can never father biological children if he is willing to do this simple needle withdrawal procedure.

    EmJay
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “You make it sound hopeful”. There. I fixed it for you

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    Nitka Tsar
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny how he thinks his wife should not cry before his son „because it‘s bad for him“ but doesn‘t see a problem in the kid seeing him not speak to her. I could be wrong, but I think the kid will resent his Dad one day. I don‘t think she forced him to do the procedure (it does not sound like she threatened him or something). I get it. He wanted more kids and now he is devastated. But life sometimes happens that way. I think it’s ok to not speak to her for a time, but he could have communicated it more maturely to his wife AND his kid. And he could have frozen some sperm or divorced sooner maybe… or they might have talked sooner about how many kids they want. I don’t know. I think it’s ok to be sad and mad but his post sounds a bit immature to me

    Aelin Wildfire
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If he was concerned, then why didn't he freeze some sperm before he got the procedure done? That was an option. And like one of the commenter said, he -is- still a parent. That means he needs to keep lines of communication open. It really sucks that he no longer has that choice, but it was freely given up, and no one else is to blame for it.

    Ephemera Image
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He is a parent, who is telling his son that he is not enough, that he wants more kids. While hurting the boy's mother.

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    Tristan J
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course Reddit users would think he is being reasonable and rational, not that he needs therapy to sort his projection out.

    Katharina Sei.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can it be that someone has a vasectomy and thinks it is reversible? Did he not get counseling, did he not listen? Being angry with his wife 5 years after the procedure may make sense emotionally, but objectively it is nonsense. It was a decision that he ultimately made himself. Not talking to someone with whom you have to clarify things like raising children seems immature and ridiculous to me. Especially when it happens from one day to the next.

    Winnie the Moo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally the AH! Set your own feelings aside for your kid! He deserved a mom and dad who can co-exist together and not be two children who don’t talk to each other!

    Crouching hippo hidden panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is incredibly immature, this guy needs therapy. Holding a grudge 5 years after the fact, and refusing to coparent like a mature adult over something that, as other people have said, can be worked around with another procedure if he wants more kids. But pathetic and I feel sorry for the kid

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    Pewpie Diaper
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Relying on your sister to communicate for you is childish. It's also completely unfair to your sister.

    Hphizzle
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor kiddo. He’s stuck with two immature parents. Pops needs to grow up and co parent like an adult and mom needs to move on and find more supportive relationships. He’s 11. He knows what’s going on.

    Nicky
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They can extract sperm surgically without reversing the vasectomy so see an IVF specialist. My then partner and I did this. You have wrong info if you think you are unable to biologically father more kids. This post spreads wrong info since you can extract sperm without a reversal procedure.

    JayWantsACat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Our divorce was amicable." "I'm mad because my wife divorced me." So which is it? This says everything I need to know. Yeah, reluctantly getting a vasectomy and then the relationship not working out sucks. But YTA for blaming your ex.

    Mary Lou
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If there is one thing we know for sure, it's that OPs ex had nothing to do with the vasectomy being permanent (it's not like she did the cutting). So OP clearly just needs someone to blame and suffer for his pain and regrets.

    Upstaged75
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This dude sounds like a whiny teenager. How ridiculous!

    Stacy Jones
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think he's TA for not wanting contact with his ex - that's his right, his process, and what he needs to heal, and she isn't entitled to have him in her life, like another commenter said. However, he IS TA for holding onto so much resentment over medical procedure that ultimately he agreed to have. It's NOT her fault that he can't have more kids, and he needs to understand that before he "gets rather serious" with anyone else.

    arthbach
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Stacy Jones, he can want to have not contact with his ex all he wants. However, he NEEDS to have contact with her because they have a child together. A co-parenting app would be an excellent way to do this - no talking required, and a record kept of the conversations on the app.

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    Mariaf
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would he be as pissed at her if he initiated the divorce and not her? How much of this is "I will never have anymore kids" and how much is "the b had the audacity to leave me"

    Laura
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many family court systems have an app or a portal where divorced parents who can't get along can communicate about their kid(s).

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Get over it, you can always adopt, but you shouldn't until you work through whatever issues you're going through.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Adoption isn't the same as having your own biological children. You know that. Many people aren't going to be happy with adoption.

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    Deborah B
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Way immature. It's a loss, and he's grieving. If he needs some temporary distance for his mental health, it would be sensible to ask for contact only via a coparenting app, or only as strictly necessary regarding their kid. He also needs to recognise that it's not actually her fault, any more than his, that his vasectomy may not be reversable. He agreed to do it. Now he's changed his mind. Anger is part of grief, but he needs to work through it, and not let it hurt the son he has. It's not fair to put him (or OP's sister) in the middle. Act like an adult, and be civil for the sake of your son. And get a second opinion, there may still be hope.

    Lyoness
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the sanest and clearest post on this thread so far IMHO.

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    Negatoris Wrecks
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Starting to see why they didn't work out. Guy's a Grade-A jerk.

    WonderWoman
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She didn't put a gun to your head, you decided to get the procedure. Now you aren't happy with it and you choose to blame her. Grow up and take responsibility for things.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders reversed?

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    Livingwithcfs
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's a whining little boy. He needed to sign the approval for surgery, the surgeon would have asked him if he was sure he wanted the vasectomy because it's a elective procedure. Sometimes these operations are reversible but not often and this would have been explained to him. His problem is he doesn't want to take responsibility for his choices. Spitting the dummy out of his cot isn't the actions of a

    just me
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's okay to be angry. He wanted more kids, but went along with something his partner wanted that would prevent him from having them. I'd be angry, too. I think he may need some help in dealing with his anger. Part of that would include accepting responsibility for his choice and that some (maybe a lot) of that anger is directed at himself.

    Beef Brisket
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Curious if some posters would respond the same way if the genders were reversed--if a woman who wanted more kids was pressured into getting her tubes tied by her husband, and they then divorced and she's been told she's permanently infertile. I wonder if some would still be saying to a woman, "Well, he didn't hold a gun to your head" or "This was a joint decision you made."

    Negatoris Wrecks
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is exactly what they say. It happens all the time. If you can even get someone to tie your tubes before you've popped out 2 babies, that is.

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    Calunii
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP is the AH in the sense that he isn't putting his kid first. Communicating with your ex wife via your sister is just not a healthy way to deal with this. However, as a woman, I do feel like some of the responses on Reddit and over here would have been waaaayy different if OP was a woman talked into getting her tubes tied. It seems that people don't take the trauma that this man probably endured from this seriously. I hope he gets a second opinion and that his first doctor was wrong, but if it turns out that his procedure isn't reversible then that is definitely devastating for this man. Sure there are still ways he can have children, but we don't know his financial situation and if he can afford those procedures.

    Alexandra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be honest, I don't care about the two so-called adults here. They should keep their business to themselves and not burden their child with it.

    V
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If he wanted more kids and she didn't, they should have split then.

    Gwyn
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He seems very immature and like he's looking for someone to blame for a problem that has not really even affected his life yet. I think he's displacing some other anger over the divorce into this issue and blowing it up. And he claims it's for his mental peace? Sounds more like his ex is a nice person who cares about him and he's just running away from his emotions, he doesn't want to talk to her because he doesn't want to deal with difficult feelings. He's setting a terrible example for his child as well. This is not how you deal with things as a grown up. It's no wonder they got divorced with his attitude.

    DarkViolet
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Genuine question: if OP'S ex didn't want kids, why didn't SHE get snipped?

    Enuya
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In some countries (i.e. Poland) it's legal to have vasectomy but illegal to have tubal ligation - if they're from US they may live in a state with similar problem. Also, even in places where it's legal to have your tubes tied doctors often refuse to do thys either because "morals" or because "you can and will change your mind" - getting vasectomy is easier.

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    Ali
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See, I'm guessing this behaviour is why she's his ex in the first place. I feel sorry for his son, how is he going to be able to celebrate any accomplishment in the future if his dad is being such a twat? Graduation, marriage, milestone birthdays, everything, his dad is going to make about himself.

    millac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does this guy even have a new partner he wants to have kids with??

    Panda Kicki
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is not just about the reversal. For every year after a V-sec the risk of sperm going in autoimmune mode increases. So even with TESE (needle removed sperm) you cant be sure it works. V-secs should be seen as total and final as all other outcomes are a happy bonus.

    El Dee
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one has to speak to their ex. Don't force people to do it. As long as there can be communication over the kids that's all you need. In his case he has lost the chance to ever have children and feels he was railroaded into it. If the shoe was on the other foot I don't think anyone would see any issue with having a clean break..

    The Starsong Princess
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op needs to worry less about the kids he isn’t having and more about the kid he has. That means positive co parenting.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Grow the absolute fúck up and take some responsibility for your life. This is so embarrassing for this guy. It's not like anyone was holding a gun to his head and they divorced FIVE YEARS LATER. Get some therapy and do NOT procreate further until you feel the same cringe as everyone else does when reading this. That poor kid. He will never come first in this dude's priorities.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why are people responding so differently with the genders flipped?

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    Marilyn Whitby
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. Your poor son. Grow up and take responsibility for your own decisions, you can't blame your ex or anyone for the things you chose. She didn't give you a vasectomy while you were sleeping, you agreed to it. There are plenty of children in the world without fathers, be a foster dad and help someone instead of whatever this immature behavior is. Not talking to her solves absolutely nothing, but it does make you look like a child.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    JuniorCJ82
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    BlueGreen totally missed the point.

    DC
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kind of YTA. Your wife made you do it ... yeah, maybe that's so, but, that another person can make you do stuff to an extent that you're absolved of any responsibility, in itself, is already wrong and your fault. If you didn't come to agree with the vasectomy, you shouldn't have had it done. This is different than being convinced of something by somebody - it reads like she ordered it, and you obeyed. The debate, it seems, had been closed prematurely, as ... after all, you get to decide about your body, and you either were too easy to convince to obey rather than being truly convinced of the surgery in question. Either way, YTA, but not really extreme ... appears rather dumb than evil, kind of, ... but, who has convinced you not to speak with your ex wife again? Own idea, this time?

    Katchen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder what this guy’s plan was for birth control, had he refused the vasectomy? Short of condoms, most forms of birth control are a burden on the woman; sometimes an extreme burden.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The wife needs to take responsibility for her own birth control rather than trying to force her husband to get sterilized.

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    Shark Lady
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even if he felt coerced, and I understand that he is now struggling, he would have had time alone with his doctor and could have said he wasn't requesting the surgery voluntarily. All doctors are aware of toxic and abusive relationships, this was only ten years ago, his doctor could have come up with a medical reason why it wasn't a good idea and he could have used condoms instead. They need to come up with a different solution which doesn't have a negative impact on their son.

    Jay Cee
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    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HUGE AH. Your body, your choice works for all the sexes. After we'd had two babies within 3 years we decided it was enough and I had a snip. The doctor went to great pains to set out the consequences. OP needs to pull on his Big Boy pants and move on - there are plenty of kids out there waiting to be adopted.

    John MacAninch
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He needs to grow up and stop being a little boy

    Anna Drever
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially in these times I can fully understand why any woman wouldn’t want to risk getting pregnant. This might not have been the case back then but women can’t find doctors to sterilise them because hubby might not like it, or you’ll change your mind??? Whereas men don’t usually have this trouble.

    Svenne O'Lotta
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an absolute wanker. And no, she's not crying about your dumb áss.

    Karen Bird
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He sounds life a pathetic whiny little nightmare! If I was his ex I'd flat out refuse to soak to the sister and make it known that if the sister tries to soak to me I'd take him to court! If he complained about that, maybe he'd realise what an absolute spoiled little brat he is! Absolute 🔔 🔚

    Steve Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP made the choice to have the procedure, he should have tought it out better.

    Marsha Workman
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He needs to own what he did and stop whining about it. He's the one that went to the doctor. He's the one that signed the papers for it. No one can "force" you to do what you do not want to do. He needs to stop pointing the finger at his ex wife and grow up.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    dandylilah
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Step-mom of 2 here. I get it. NTA.

    Gavin Johnson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone who can’t / won’t take ownership their decisions and then uses that weakness to negatively impact on their child and ex-wife. My ex-wife and I had an amicable break, it wasn’t without troubles but for the sake of our daughter we behaved like adults. Now, seven years later we are still friends, we can visit our daughter’s school together or watch her in a dance recital together. We made errors, we own them, we don’t play the blame game and we still put our daughter first, that’s the adult thing to do.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into having her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    Meagan Glaser
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "we amicably divorced" but once something happened afterwards it was "she divorced me" They decided not to have kids, he went and got a vasectomy, but once he wanted to hit "undo" and couldn't it became "she coerced me" Dude is a child. Whenever he regrets something, the decision automatically becomes some one else's fault. He's probably "manipulated" and "tricked" into a LOT of things in life. I'm sure he's a victim every time he doesn't like something.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife to get her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    Robert Bloch
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He is entitled to respond in accordance with how he feels and no one has the right to tell him he's wrong. If his wife felt that strongly about it, she should have got her tubes tied. His only fault is trusting a woman that wasn't worthy of it. On a personal note, I once dated a single mother who, after a time, asked me to get the snip. I said no. I was 20 at the time, and it seemed like too drastic of a step. Wanting to be a father to a child of my own as well, I realized I wouldn't be experiencing that with her. I ended it right away. While it's a crappy way to enter a relationship, in today's, world a man has to protect him self from a less honorable woman. On a final note, if men aren't allowed to weigh in on the topic of abortion, then conversely, women don't get to have an opinion about vasectomies. My body, my choice.

    Negatoris Wrecks
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was his choice. He just didn't like it so he's retroactively turning what was probably (from his intentional lack of detail) a normal family-planning discussion into getting robbed by gunpoint because he has a lack of accountability and doesn't know how to process his emotions, which is most likely why she divorced him.

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    Couragetcd
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is probably an entitled man whose divorce was the first time something in his life didn't work out the way he wanted and planned, and hearing a doctor say his snip couldn't be reversed was the second thing. Only the well entitled would enact the stop, pout, and blame game immediately at the first hint of a speed bump.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    PeakyBlinder
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why does he punish his ex for his decision? Yes, it was his decisipn, she did nor force him. And obviously she did not leave him to have more kids with another guy - in that case i could maybe understand his reaction - but the separation was a joint decision. So please get your s**t together and stop behaving so ridiculously

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a man pressured his wife into getting her tubes tied and then divorced her, people would call him a horrible person. Why is the reaction so different with the genders flipped?

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    Cee Cee
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should have done his due diligence before surgery.

    Sarah Matsoukis
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    1 year ago

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    The person who doesn't want more kids should get the procedure done. Also , doesnt he still make sperm that Just gets reabsorbed by the body, that could be used by a doctor?

    Beth Wheeler
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    1 year ago

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    Why didn't she get a tubal ligation instead of you getting a vasectomy? There are also other options for birth control. Go go another Urologist that specializes in vasectomies and reversals for a second option. At some point you will have to talk to her about decisions about the kid. What if he was to get sick or hurt?

    Rebecca Samuel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A tubal ligation is a much more serious and invasive procedure than a vasectomy.

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    nm (he/him)
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    1 year ago

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    It seems that condoms have not invented yet.

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