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Millennials Share 30 Things They Wish Older Generations Understood In This Heartbreaking Viral Thread
Recently, Redditor u/AlmostBarbie reignited the never-dying discussion on the generation gap. On July 18, they made a post, asking, "Gen Z and millennials, what's something you wish the older generations understood?" and millennials especially had a to get off their chest.
Just as millennials grew up negotiating choices in their families and at school, today they want to be and feel significant in their professional and personal lives. Here are the things that matter to them the most.
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Just because someone is Family DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO LOVE THEM. Terrible toxic people should ABSOLUTELY be cut out of your life REGARDLESS of their relationship to you
Fox News and Talk Radio did to you what you thought video games would do to us.
Your s****y jokes that objectify women or make fun of minorities won’t fly anymore. Get over it.
Someone should take this statement and tape it right into my father's face. He seems to only know 10 jokes, and all of them are either sexist or racist.
When I’m depressed that doesn’t mean you need to give me lectures on what’s wrong with me so I can improve
The worst lecture I received was how they had life far worse than me, felt more depressed and yet never behaved like me. How I am weak and allowed circumstances and recent media hype over mental illness to make me feel sick deliberately!
Yeah, we know. You rode in the back window of a car that had no seatbelts, you got measles, rode bikes with no helmets, and still turned out just fine.
Just because you happened to be in the group of people who survived doesn’t mean any of these were a good idea.
Customers ARE NOT always right.
The original phrase reeks privilege, and self entitlement.
The original phrase is "The customer is always right in matters of taste"
That video games dont cause mass shootings. Things like neglect, bullying,a bad home life, and your s****y parenting are what causes mass shootings
Blaming something else is a rather old issue. It was Dungeons & Dragons in the 80s. Rock music before that.
You can’t put yourself through college by working at the supermarket anymore.
Our generation is the biggest in US history, so competition for jobs is much harder than it was for Boomers, which causes wages to flatline.
Add to this that housing and food costs are at all time highs and it’s pretty bleak for us, even many of those who have good jobs at Fortune 500 companies cannot afford to purchase homes.
I would really just like Boomers for ONCE just to acknowledge how difficult it is today vs. when they were coming up. It’s a different world and they just can’t see it. It’s very frustrating because most of them still think that anybody willing to swing a hammer 40 hours a week can make a living in America and it’s just not true anymore.
Wait until the boomers all die and the housing market crashes because of the massive surplus.
That $15/hour in 2021 does not give you the same purchasing power that it did in 1985. When I hear an older person say "I used to get by just fine on $15/hour", I wanna slap them.
Throughout our schooling, we had to write research papers using online sources, and our teachers really stressed the importance of being able to identify a credible source before citing it. Don't be offended when you send us an article from Americanpatrioteagle.ru and we dismiss it outright.
Learning about credible sources is a great skill to have. A former friend of mine has been posting 10 times a day on Facebook since joining. Lots of dubious "facts" and "news". I kept pointing out inaccuracies and fact-checking sites. After several years, they wrote that they'd like to start consulting fact-checking sites. I was long disengaged by then. I can live with the occasional mistake (I've made them, too), but not a daily barrage that requires fact-checking by the audience.
I feel damn resentful when older folks tell me I should stay home with my kids. Like, yeah I’d love to if we could afford it, which we can’t. They act like it’s a choice to go back to work, when for a lot of moms, it’s not a choice.
"I was spanked as a kid and I turned out fine."
No, you didn't. You're a narcissist, get mad easily, joke about hitting your own children and even they're sick of your bull crap to the point that they cut you off. F**k you.
Dang - somebody's got an agenda / jumping to conclusions. I was spanked as a child, and I don't get mad easily, never joke about violence, and have never once hit my own kids. You'll have to ask others about my narcissism and if they're sick of my crap, but even if I'm guilty of those things you've got some work to do to convince me it's because of my childhood abuse.
And it's not like parents are perfect, no matter the generation. Sorry kids, but all parents make mistakes, and if you have kids you will too.
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Some people really did turn out fine, but so what? I know someone whose house burned down, and they turned out fine. I know someone who was hit by a car and turned out fine. Just because it is possible to recover from a trauma doesn't mean it should be deliberately repeated.
Yeah... if you want to hit children, you didn't turn out fine. People who turned out fine don't want to hit children.
And just as many people are like that and never got spanked. Not saying it’s ok to do, but it doesn’t cause narcissism.
My kids and I joke about me being abusive, but that is because I am so mild mannered. I do not spank my children mind you. They get upset if I am disappointed or upset with them at all. But that is because they feel they let me down. We have an amazing relationship and I adore them. In fact, at 17 and 15 they still cuddle with me and trust telling me what's going on. My oldest has even called me when he was worried about a friend so I could reach out and provide support. I am my kids friends second mom. I am sorry that you had this experience though.
While I do not condone outright abuse against a child, a little swat on the butt does in fact help sometimes. You know what is worse? Not setting boundaries and allowing your kids to get away with anything they want. I've encountered plenty of parents who can't say "no" to their kids and they end up outright disrespecting their parents all of the time. I remember I disrespected my mom one time in 2nd grade and got spanked pretty hard. I never disrespected her again after that.
The opposite extreme is children who are never told "no", and we've been seeing the results of that when they become (chronological) adults. Seems like there are a lot of people on this site who can't stand hearing that an opposite extreme exists. Too bad! Not setting boundaries can be just as abusive (well, neglectful anyway)-- it just doesn't leave a mark, that's all. The now-adult who assumes the world revolves around their every whim generally isn't a grand gift to society, that's being shown.
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I’m begging to suspect you’re not really an expert as you claim to be…
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Talk about someone getting mad easily. My parents stopped spanking me around 3-4 because it made them cry, and I barely cared. They started putting me in time-out and taking away my toys, and I lost my mind and behaved. My brother would just daydream through a time-out but would cry if my mom or dad even showed him a spatula or a belt. Our culture has lost all grip on context, intent, or severity. In a world with no gray and only black or white, who could be surprised we’re polarized?
On the other hand, I know people who were never spanked (or disciplined in any way) and they are some of the most narcissistic, entitled, abusive a$$h013s you could ever meet.
THIS! Heh, I just now ranted about it a few comments above. Totally agree with you.
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there is a time and place for a spanking. depends on the child and their actions.
My dad used to threaten us with how he was punished as a kid. He and his siblings were lined up each night - got a whack on the butt for what they didn't get caught doing - then a spoon full of castor oil for what they did get caught doing. He grew up in the 40's-50's. He was the sweetest father anyone could have, never punished us. Because he didn't want to do that to us. That in itself tells you that was a shitty way to be punished. But yeah, punishments on kids in the past were NOT character building.
I'm glad for you that your father learned from it. Mine was abused too, but for some reason couldn't translate that into avoiding being abusive to his own kids. He wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, I guess.
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I was spanked as a child by both my mother and my father. The difference being, my mother spanked us at the drop of a hat...my father used spanking as a last resort. We saw my mother as abusive and my Dad as someone you respected. If Dad was spanking you, you really f***ed up. My mother also had the mouth of drunken sailor while I've heard my Dad cuss about 4 times in my life. That's why I go to therapy....to gripe about my tyrannical mother and cry for the loss of my father.
You sound like you were abused. There is a very significant difference between giving a spanking and hitting your child. If that difference escapes you, if it was not made clear to you as a child, you should consider speaking with the police about it.
I was spanked as a kid - I don't get mad easily, don't hit my kids or my pets and I'm an introvert, not a narcissist. Don't lump all of us in one bucket - I certainly don't lump all Millennials in one bucket. We're all different.
Mind your own g'damn business and stop painting everyone else with your patronizing uneducated belief, as you have no idea what you are talking about. I am sick and tired of repeatedly hearing this nonsense from the likes of you, as if you even had an idea what you were actually talking about. Yes, I have the right to get pissed off, just as anyone else. Statements like that is selfrighteousness galore, pretty much like your affinity for taking the right to speak for others...
Spanking is the absolute laziest form of parenting that there ever was. Parents who spank their children are teaching children that violence is the answer. I will never for the life of me understand why grown adults still think this is acceptable behavior.
I was spanked as a child for minor things + I've never forgiven my parents for it. (That's a 68- year grudge, if you're keeping track.)
Here's the thing... spanking was used in place of actual discipline. What did spanking teach you when you did something wrong? That doing wrong equaled pain albeit brief for some, fear for some but not actually why you should change your behavior... why it was wrong. I was spanked, I did not come out unscathed and I had to learn to verbalize anger and disappointment versus just physically showing it. Spanking imo equals negligence and that you don't value your children enough to use words.
If you think hitting a kid is a good way to discipline, you did not turn out fine.
As someone who got smacked, didn’t turn out fine and watched an anti-smacking campaign play out in my country, I really wish would-be allies would stop centring their own self-righteous anger. People who did what they thought was right are now hearing that their actions may have harmed a person/people whom they love a lot. If you can’t put yourself in their shoes, stop trying to speak for me, because you’re not actually helping.
Writing fxck you at the end of your rant kind of destroys your credibility as a "fine" person.
Your demonization of all parents who spank is outrageous and the list of evils you attribute to spanking is absurd and reductionistic. That's not to say that I agree with spanking. I was spanked, and I never spanked my own kids precisely because I remember how painful and humiliating it was to be spanked. But at the same time, I don't hold it against my parents for a second. They just didn't know better. They were trying to be the best parents they could be, and THAT is what makes the difference in the long run. As long as there is a background of parental love and care, I do not believe parental mistakes--including (non-damaging) physical discipline--cause any long term harm to a child's psyche or character.
a feel a slap coming on.....this is what you are lacking discipline and punishment....
I hear this all the time from other Boomers....And it’s generally from the ones who are most obviously not “just fine.” 🤨
This is absolutely untrue. And is so offensive. I got my ass handed to me as a kid not "spanked" and I am absolutely fine. I'm not angry, I'm not abusive, I don't make jokes like that. I honestly think it made me better. Case in point.... me: Ass handed to me, 4 years from finishing a 20 year career, raised / raising great kids no real trouble to speak of. Baby (half) sister,: punishment was "Let's make better choices" since she was 2, she's now 19 smokes a lot of pot (yes I know it's legal not the point) can't hold a job and pretty sure she has an only fans account and her tik tok and SECRET snap is disgusting. She has no moral compass and is completely effed in her head. It's sad. (half) Brothers: 1 is turning out fine, the other one I'm sure will be in prison or worse eventually because of his anger issues and never having a boundary ever in his life. So nope I'm good.
Your job is not your life, you shouldn't sacrifice time with friends and family let alone your mental wellbeing just for a paycheck
Catch 22 there. Hard to have time for your friends and family if you can't put food on the table or keep the utilities on. :(
That just because I don't want to be called something doesn't mean I'm a baby. People are allowed to have boundaries and things they don't feel comfortable with
It also swings the other way. If you hear me call my son "Monster Face," it doesn't mean he will grow up with a complex. It's a term of endearment. My sister flipped out at this. I was called "Monster Face" by my mom's entire side of the family. I called them names too like "Old lady." If it's an inside fun ribbing, don't call it out as cruel unless you're in on it or you see or hear the other person protest.
Just because we're more aware of our mental health and allow ourselves to feel what we want to feel, it doesn't make us weak or "snowflakes". If anything, it makes us better at coping with, well, everything!
Dad: “Just go in and ask for a job and keep going every day until they give you one.” Or “This random kid I was talking to at Wegmans (20 years ago) started in the mailroom and worked his way up and he’s making $x hundred thousand per year.”
Me: “They just tell you to submit a resume online and never respond.”
This worked when I was in college 2000-2004, but it doesn't work anymore. They get angry with you if you come in. "Apply online"
Texting is much more convenient, sometimes even better, than making a phone call.
So so so many times it's easier to actually talk to the other humans, scary as that can seem. With texting there's no tone, nuance and my sarcasm is much better while talking.
Unless you are extremely gifted and have a way to demonstrate it, social class is becoming more locked in than it has been in generations.
The social mobility that started to become available in the first half of the 20th century, but amplified much more so in the 40's, 50's and 60's started to decline in the 80s and by the 2010s was is straight up freefall.
If you do not have parents that are willing and able to support your social and financial progress from childhood through higher education (or through training in a steady trade) you are at very real risk of falling through the cracks of this society through no fault of your own.
The US has a system of equality where the more you own, the more equal you are and the more civil rights you have.
That electronics don't rot your brain,and that vaccines ARE effective.
I think boomers - the smallpox generation - are well aware of the efficacy of vaccines. It's younger people (mainly in the usa) who seem to think otherwise.
Just because I know where/how to find the answer to something doesn't mean I "think I'm smarter than you."
I'm just trying to save both of us from wasting time.
There was hope in your time. You felt like you could change the world. Nowadays, our economy is f****d, our environment is f****d, our privacy is gone, our governments are pitting us against one and other, and the planet is going to kill us off within the next century regardless of what we do about it.
So don't look down on us as "weak" or call us "entitled" if we're a little pissed off and/or depressed about it, ok?
Finally someone who gets it. It isn't left vs. right. It's society vs. government. Stop falling for the idea that we should be pissed at each other. Wrong!
That I’m not a lazy entitled CHILD. I’m in my mid 30s and most of my peers that are younger than me are smart and hardworking as well. It’s productivity and efficiency that matters, not the amount of time you spend at work.
There's a story here in Germany called "the seven lazy ones". It's about seven men, who are known to be incredibly lazy. Eventually, they left the town to find work. Years later, they came back and start improving things immensely: they build a dam to protect the town from floods, they build a pathway and houses for themselves and dig a well. But no matter what they do, the neighbors always find a way to keep calling them lazy because they're making life easier and obviously only lazy people would want an easier life.
That the cost of education far outpaced inflation and wage growth in the US. If I had a dime for each boomer who lectured me about working my way through school like they did, I might almost be able to buy a house!
That technology exists to enable people to work from home, and just because they do doesn't mean they are sat watching Netflix
It doesn't mean that, but admit it. You are on BoredPanda and Netflix more than you would be in the office.
That it is reasonable to not want kids and enjoy life with your spouse.
I can’t have kids, buy a house, and go on vacation even with my $100k+ salary. At least, not if I want to have money saved for emergencies.
Either older generations played it looser with less savings, or s**t was different.
$100k a year and you can't do those things? What the f**k ARE you spending your money on? Few people reading this will have much sympathy for someone earning a vast amount more than they are
Apparently sleeping till 11 AM makes you lazy regardless of whether or not you had to work until 12:30 AM at your s****y Wendy's location.
Not exclusively a boomer thing, though. There's still very little regard for people working in nightshifts.
Kids use computers/phones for more than just playing video games and scrolling through social media. I basically live on my computer. My best friends are online. My favorite activities are coding and making games. But no, my parents assume the devil computer is rotting my brain and making me stupid. As a wise man once said: phone bad, book good.
That “just get a better job” is not all that easy
This isn't new. Older generations kept getting that useless come back
That not everything can be solved with immediate aggression. That being patient and thinking on the right thing to say rather then saying what comes to mind first goes a lot further
This was one of the first things they tried to teach me at the hospital. I kept calling it 'plotting' and they didn't like that. It's one of my most used pieces of advice, every time I get an email from head office, I click reply, delete the addressee and type my angry response. Then delete the email and start anew with a more measured and planned response.
That we're not that lazy and we have a good reason to be depressed, cynical, and pesimistic. People like my grandma always talk how "at your age i was married, had a house, and 2 kids blah blah" not realising they did all that on 1 paycheck, while simultaneously complaining how money isnt worth anything nowadays and they just went grocery shopping and spent 25 % of their income while chanting "dont worry, its gonna get better". How can you not put those two together
1) Your grandma got married and had kids at your age because she didn’t have a lot of other options...but because it was necessarily what she would have otherwise chosen.... those good old days weren’t always so good if you dig a little deeper. Anyone who wants to go back to the “good old days” is either living in a fantasy world or they like a world where white men were the only ones with any rights (it’s not been so many years ago that a woman couldn’t get credit in her name without a male counter-signer). 2) Your grandma didn’t send her kids to school every day worried that today might be the day some sick person will target their school for a mass killing. 3) While her generation should have been worried about climate change and its effect on the future of this planet, she was not faced with the urgency that your generation is.
How much college and housing really costs compared to when they bought those things.
And it's just a domino effect, too. The less reasonable college is, the harder it is to buy a house with all your loans.
And both of those things make it very difficult to have children.
College does not serve the same function it did even 30 years ago. College is no longer about educating people. It is purely a money making venture based on outdated social expectations. As such it is one of the most socially destructive forces going these days.
You told us that if we didn't go to college we would be working at McDonald's or the supermarket. Well we are. Why? Because we are lazy? That's because every "entry level job"s require 5+ years of experience and a degree. You got your foot in with a degree. A degree that may not even have been related.
Oh, and you say we need to work temp jobs and internships? Guess what: That experience mysteriously doesn't count when it comes to applying. Apply anyway? Auto trash.
In Poland people had similar attitude, but more regarding a degree, than experience. "Oh I see that you don't have a degree? Hmm... Do you plan to have one? No? Well, it's great that you have the experience we're looking for, but you don't have a degree". And it's not like they're expecting specific one. You can have a degree in psychology and work as an accountant, because all they care about is papers
Being LBGTQIA+ doesn’t change who we are and it shouldn’t affect how they treat us.
It does get confusing when they keep adding more letters to the list faster than I celebrate birthdays...
that the old work schedule isn’t the best work schedule. i’d get more done in 4 10 hour days and be happier then i would in 5 8 hour days
CLIMATE CHANGE. Reduce, reuse, recycle. Save our planet
Um, Gen X (in ths US) is between boomers and millennials, and we were doing this before millennials were born in some cases, so stop with the assumption you can't trust anyone over 40, okay? Thank you.
I'm not lazy, I'm tired. There's a difference between not wanting to do something and not having the mental capacity to something this very moment.
Wow,try that on my Asian Parents they'll look at you like you're from Pluto.
We're not lazy, and we don't see anything wrong with "paying our dues." We just want to be fairly compensated for our work, and also the job market is a lot more competitive (so advice that worked for you 30+ years ago simply doesn't work for us today).
"Fair" in compensation is in the eye of the beholder. It will never really be fair, for the entirety of your career. Best you can do is the best you can. Sometimes the best you can get is not going to be fair to you.
That the American economy is f****d and unbelievably slated against younger generations. Because those with power and money exerted their influence to gain more power and money. So now all the resources have been sucked up to the top and young people are left fighting over table scraps.
Everyone is fighting for table scraps, not just the "younger generations".
You don't need to go to university or college to be successful and if you go there's a massive debt
It's all about the degree you get. If you major in Art History or Gender Studies and you are still working at Wal-Mart, that is because your degree is useless. Find something that is marketable. Going to a university is fine if you do the actual research and determine the field you are going into has a projected increase of growth.
Stop telling me directions, I'll just use GPS.
No really, just give me the end address. Stop. STOP TELLING ME DIRECTIONS. I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU. JUST GIVE ME THE ADDRESS AND ILL USE GPS.
But they just keep going "and then at the 3rd light, go left, go straight for about 3.5 miles, then make a right at the farmhouse..."
Quite a few numpties have died, and tons more have got lost, when their sat nav told them the wrong directions.
That their "help" isn't help unless I've asked for it. And that they need to stop it with the unsolicited advice.
Just general cost of living, especially for young families. I was at a baby shower yesterday and the mom mentioned that daycare she looked into near work was $3,000 a month. That’s for an infant so I know that’s always more expensive but, man, that means most of my paycheck would be going there. On top of that, it was a hustle to get where I am, graduating into the recession, and it’s just now really paying off (literally and figuratively). I need to save for retirement so it’s not like I can just stay home. Plus, what if there is a downturn, and my husband loses his job? His parents were totally f****d by the recession. Plus COL is so high. Homes, cars, food, phones…everything costs more. Our whole goal is having a mortgage we can pay off stocking shelves at Trader Joe’s if we have to.
I don't want the moon. I just want what I was promised after doing everything you asked me to.
That we aren’t completely oblivious to what happened when we were born, when I was a kid we still had a vhs.
My ability to find the power button on a computer does not make me anymore a genius than your grasp of the dewy decimal system makes you a genius.
Yes, but I do know it's spelled "Dewey", and it does mean that in case of a power outage, I can still find information in crazy things called "books".
That at this rate, my future grandkids will ask me where Santa lives, and I'll sigh when I remember the North Pole melted years ago.
The North Pole will still be there regardless as to where it's covered in ice or not
I know that you were able to get by on $15 an hour, but there’s also been an 800% inflation rate since then, Grandpa.
That back in their day, one person could work an average 40 hr job and still afford a mortgage, car and a family.
Im in my early thirties and my spouse and I both work more than 40 hrs each at well paying jobs. With side hustle jobs and can only afford a house.
We have no kids and have no time to vacation cause we need to work work work to afford our mortgage we millennials were 'oh so lucky' to get. I dont want to work so much just to afford basics.
School is much harder. In high school, both of my parents only required one algebra class to graduate. Today, I needed algebra I, algebra 2 and geometry to graduate and another math class if you plan on going to college.
BS, I'm probably your parents age and I needed more than just one algebra class to graduate.
We do need our phones. Yes, there's lots of ways to use them just for fun, but you are not employable or socially viable if you don't have a smart phone. It's not a point of pride to "not mess around with those darn texting machines," it's annoying and dangerous. I can never get a hold of my 72 year old father, and it is not cute because that's not how the world works anymore.
Yeah this is true. I'd love to ditch my phone, but you have to have one these days. It's annoying.
Things change.
Millennials are grown ass adults. Literally the youngest conceivable cut point for millennials (ability to candidly remember pre-9/11 at least for US in my opinion) is in the latter half of their mid 20s. The oldest possible cut point is in their early 40s.
Millennials didn’t kill industries. Complacency and a lack of forethought killed them. Taxi monopolies had a decade or more to make an app or whatever that was transparent about pricing, route and at least vastly more secure for riders than an anonymous pickup. We didn’t kill Applebee’s, the world is just more accessible now and I’d rather eat something more interesting than frozen and microwaved dishes I can make at least as well at home for 10% of the cost. Industries committed suicide because they thought being the best when we were 6 was going to be good enough.
You gave us participation trophies although I agree they’re dumb. You were the snowflakes who couldn’t let your precious little angel grapple with the fact that he wont be one of the like 500 NBA players one day.
It is wholly unnecessary to spend 10 minutes giving me directions somewhere.
Did Applebee's finally die?! That would be great. The food is awful
That you can't just walk outside and get jobs stuck in your hair or on the soles of your shoes anymore, also that minimum wage jobs will in no way allow you to earn enough money to get on the property ladder. If you do manage to land a job you have to jump through a billion hoops such as uploading a CV as well as filling in a form asking for the exact same information that's included in your CV, group assessments and all that carry on. It's not enough to just hand a CV over anymore and get an interview. Even if you know how to game the system getting a job is bloody difficult.
Maybe back in the 60s you could afford to support a family with a full time job flipping burgers, but not anymore.
I wish they could understand that we are not playing edgy...we are legitimately depressed, as the years go by life is supposed to be better, improving ! but no...just because you see us as kids doesn't mean we can't do any good, stop the condescending behavior and let us help fix the mistakes you don't even consider as real.
They took everything. They are still taking everything. Their lifespan is draining our whole society from pensions, healthcare, education housing, tax policy, the list goes on and on. They took advantage and were bad stewards of the society they inherited. The me me me generation is not millennials... it's the baby boomers.
That my gender, sexuality, and romantic orientation are valid and not “made up labels to make me feel special.” Also that the US education system is f****d up and desperately needs reform for many reasons. Actually that a lot of systems in the US need reform
The article should be called "AMERICAN millenials share things they wish older generations knew"
Came here to say the same thing. I'm also pretty sick of this artificial separation of people into millenials and boomers. Those groupings are useful tools for social studies, not everyday life.
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OK, I'll get hated, but can other GenXers from the US back me up? We had all this and nobody gave a rat's butt, and millennials then tell us we didn't have it that bad. How about we stop whinging about what sh*t we had, and just say, "Hey, thanks for this!" and make things *better*? Can we just try that? Without posting on social media about it? (I write with clear awareness of the irony, thanks.)
All the debates I've seen are "millennials vs boomers". Gen X is pretty much ignored.
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Gen X’er here, and I think they’re confusing “conservatives” with “older generations…” 🤦🏽♀️ SO many misunderstandings here.
Older generations are statistically more conservative than younger ones. Always have been... it is a function of getting old.
Load More Replies... First of all, BP, can we refrain from posting things that pit young people vs "old" people. It's not helpful. So many of the issues are absolutely true and I try not to think that way or say those things. This "argument" has existed in some form or other for each generational divide. I remember mine. As far as us boomers & technology, we have experienced a rapid explosion unlike any generation in history. Things are changing so fast it's overwhelming. You grew up on it & so dealing with rapid change is part of who you are. But consider this fair warning. What goes around comes around. At some shocking moment it will hit you that what you just said sounded just like your parents. 😱😭 There will always be new things & changes in society that when you get there you'll fail to understand. Trust me, "When I was young" & "In my day" WILL COME SHOOTING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH! Hopefully, like more boomers than you think do this, 💡! Shut up and remember.
Tired of the "boomers are stupid" stuff on here. I despise labels. This thread isn't "heartbreaking". Many of these comments apply to any generation, age, etc. depending on THE person's worldview, idiocy level, experience...etc. etc. I despise generalizations. I get tired of people looking for labels and "you did this to us, you did that to us!" stuff to divide people. I dislike all these articles that just seem to want to fan the flames, where I had been enjoying reading BP and didn't see a need for any flames.
Why is it that millennials seem to believe they/we are the first to have different beliefs/feelings/expectations etc to the generation before? It seems we expect respect for our lifestyles but refuse to do the same in reverse. On a side note the whole argument for the value of money being less now although partially true it doesn’t take into account facts like there was no such thing as ‘fast fashion’ in previous decades a person in the 50s for example had to save for a new item of clothing and would wear the same pair of shoes for years by getting them fixed at a cobbler, in essence people lived within their means
To hear my Baby Boomer aged relatives talk, they were the first. *sigh*
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Interesting but it is sad to see another USA centric article. It seems that most of them are.
Jip, it seems that some BP editors have an obsession with the USA.
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I am not a boomer, I am generation X. And to put all older generations is f'd up. I know the younger generation is not all the same. Some are lazy, some are not. My generation didn't think we could fix everything. I see that more with today's generations. If my kids bedded their a$$ busted, they got it. And my kids are good kids. The problem is, this generation, doesn't like for anyone to disagree with their opinion or how they see things. My generation can (or use to), have a discussion, disagreement and go on. This generation becomes extremely upset, ugly, and decide to scream and just be disrespectful, even if the other person isn't behaving like that. The cost of living is nothing like it use to be and it's sad. People need to really know how to interact with people. I don't have a problem with anyone with a different opinion. Everyone is different, we should learn from one another
I like to caution that we base this on comments on the internet. Who says those commenters even are Millenials, even if they claim to be? The "millenials" I've met in real-life are nothing like what the internet suggests they are, so I think a lot of that is just people being incredibly bored and trolling. It's pretty easy to find them, though - they never argue with arguments, only insult even though sometimes in long posts and do something that's called "sea-lioning" (I learned that one recently. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/sealioning-internet-trolling )
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These types of threads are so unnecessary. Why are people STILL pitting manufactured generational labels against each other. It's boring
Because the younger generation has to deal with this crap on a daily basis while they struggle to get by. They need to vent their frustration somewhere. Sure this isn't new, when they were young, Gen X were called the "lazy MTV generation, too much TV", and the Boomers were called "a bunch of lazy hippies". But when somebody is struggling to pay the rent and keep employed, and pay their medical bills... the last thing they need is an old person with no concept of the modern world lecturing them.
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Dear Bored Panda, there are more than 2 generations. There is Gen X an Gen Z. We do actually exist.
Just as my parents said that we didn't know what we were talking about, my kids say the same about me (as does this article). It is a sad commentary on humans, when we can't evolve in the right areas. Tribal knowledge is precious, and the people who won't listen to what their elders have to say, are missing out on the best of what we have to offer. In case you haven't noticed in the past couple years - Google does not know everything.
It really depends on what those elders are saying. I certainly listen to their insights when it comes to things like love and relationships because those are universal experiences. On subjects like work and property though, not so much. They bought their first house for two or three times their annual incomes, benefitted from huge rises in property value and retired on final salary pensions. I’m lucky though - they are well aware the challenges they faced are not the challenges young people face today, and they don’t pretend otherwise.
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Gen X here. We are now considered older. The things that are being complained about by millenials are being considered "Karens", "Simps" "Snowflakes"...and I know it wasn't the older generations who came up with those labels. And this one "That just because I don't want to be called something doesn't mean I'm a baby. People are allowed to have boundaries and things they don't feel comfortable with"....EXACTLY or does this not apply to older people?
Better title. Us young people are so much smarter and more virtuous than everyone who does not agree with us.
I think the older generation should give those younger than us a break. I’m not a boomer but no spring chicken either. I love watching younger people doing their stuff their own way. Good for them ! Leave them the F alone. If they want advice they’ll ask for it. Reading these posts does make me realise that they are under a lot of pressure, especially in the USA with debt from uni, no jobs or shitty jobs. The pay is near slavery, no health insurance, etc. No wonder so many have stress and angst.
This is a terrible article. I skipped to the end because it was just a mosh of millenials condemning the older generation. This is a load of crap! Not all of us "old people" act or feel or say or do these things. I agree with Ted Expert. Come on Panda you're better than this! I downvote this whole thing!
I don't know who these Millennials are talking to. I'm a boomer and I don't believe all the crap they are posting. Yes, we could get by making less money per hour. Prices were a lot lower for everything. I don't like to text, but I also don't like to talk on the phone. I prefer emails/messages on social media. And so on and so one. We can all point our fingers at the other generations and find stuff we didn't like, don't like, don't agree on. Big fricken deal, get over yourselves - and that's for all ages.
I think a lot of this also comes from a slap in the face of reality. Adulthood is difficult. And why are so many of them trying to own property when there is a vast housing shortage and prices are skyrocketing?
SOOOO tired of the same excuses. I am a Gen X, my sister is a Millennial. She has less education and makes WAAYYY more money than me. Nicer house, nicer car, etc. It is not any more difficult to succeed now than before. Millennials can be very successful. It does boil down to hard work and good choices, and sometimes a little luck.
Anecdotal evidence is not evidence. Thanks for the fun anecdote about your sister, though.
Load More Replies... I’m a Gen X-er. None of these feelings or thoughts are new. We just didn’t crave or need the recognition for having these thoughts and acting on them.
Correction: we might have had them, but didn't have the means to put them out for the world to see. If we wanted to, we needed to find a lector, a publisher, maybe some skills in writing (or singing or painting - whatever) and yes, a lot of luck. I bet most of Gen X would have posted their thoughts online if it had been a "thing" back then.
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Millenials are two generations. Gen-Y ('78-'92) and Gen-Z ('90-'00). Gen-Y and Gen-Z are not the same. Gen-Z are just now coming into their own. Can't lump them in yet. Broad generalization, I know, but Gen-Y seem to be entitled elitist crybabies who think they have some inherent right to be free of consequences.
Hm, I always thought Gen Y starts at '80 and ends at the late 90s?
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Yeah more bitchy whining by the younger generations about the older generations .... You know the Hippies you loved so much ... OH MY GOD !!! You hate them because they are like you ......
I think people are missing the point here. People are getting too caught up on the "us" vs. "them" mentality and missing the point. Yes, it might be a generalization to say "old" vs. "young" but most people are aware that everyone is different and while this doesn't necessarily apply to EVERYONE from an older generation, this is how younger generations feel that they are viewed overall by people of older generations. Instead of trying to prove "us" or "them" wrong and continue to believe that the younger generations are whining and complaining all the time, maybe actually think for a second, that if a collective group of people all feel this way, maybe they have a point. Instead of attempting to invalidate or disprove them, try taking a second to listen and understand them. Maybe you will then come to understand that they may have a valid point. Or if not, then you will at least understand how to make a better argument to disprove them other than, "that's the way it's always been"
I'm definitely not a millenial but these (pretty much) all apply to me
To wrap it all up, boomers' biggest fault was to let the Internet out :) Now 'we're smarter, more capable and knowledgeable, online is about more efficiency and productivity, no need to sit at work' - and no money or prospects, and gig economy is suddenly the boomer's heritage. Plus, computers don't eat out our brains and leave us more time for ourselves, friends and families- but leave us alone with our mental issues and family doesn't necessarily mean love, and we're just fine childfree. Boomer-ang thinking.
Not all millennials feel this way, not all boomers make them feel this way...way too much stereotyping and lumping people together going on here.
But regarding the directions, on the cover image (which is not in the article), even mandy of the millennials can't use the navigation on their phone :D Sometimes it's ridiculous.
OK, so... I am a boomer. One of my children is doing well and living a happy, comfortable life. The other child never, even with a lot of help from his parents, figured out how to care for himself and died young. I know things are worse now for young people, even more than it was for my kids. So I retired as soon as I could, which freed up a job for someone younger. My husband and I struggled to find enough to raise those kids, even hen we were young parents, forty-five years ago. so your struggles are not unique to your generation, but they do seem to be more ubiquitous. Not my fault, and I am so sorry for you all. To be fair, though, I doubt most of you would have done things much differently if you had been me in those times.
I am really sorry about your lost child. As for the subject: that last line is really the kicker. We all are products of the times we live in and the circumstances we were born into. All those high-praised concepts didn't come from thin air - they have always been there and people older than those being now called "millenials" have raised the problems because they suffered from them, already! We form our following generations, and as we shape and are shaped by our society, they will shape theirs and be shaped by it. Without "us" there is no "them". Without the boomers who invented the internet, a lot of the things the younger generations grow up with wouldn't exist. But put one of the younger ones into the society as it was back then and I will bet that a lot of them wouldn't really be different, as you said. Not without having the knowledge that they have now (which comes from teachers of older generations!)
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A LOT of these problems are uniquely American. A lot of countries have things a lot better, better wages, better support, better healthcare, better support for education, less expensive everything. When I was a kid, it was fairly cheap to live in America. I knew people in Texas (where, yes, land was cheap) who would buy land and build a 3-bedroom house for under $60,000, like 30-40 years ago (omg, I feel so old!). Now, $60,000 gets you nothing. There ARE community colleges and local universities that are still quite cheap, but you have to shop around, and tbh technical schools are probably a much better investment for a LOT of people. Even 30 years ago, a university degree was no guarantee of work. Seriously, America, you need to get back to where you were. I left America a little over 20 years ago. That country seems, to me, dead and gone. I don't even recognize that place that fills that space now.
Useless generation.....spoiled , entitled and you are learning now that life was not what they said it was going to be....no one cares about how depressed or sensitive you are...more fake illnesses have come up since the early 90s to explain why your generation is a weak link in the food chain
Boomer,their parents, their parents before them, etc have always argued the last generation had it easier. Sorrry, snowf!akes, WE all had it harder.
Not true at all, it can be definitively measured how "easy" and "hard" things have been over the years. Boomers had lower housing prices and a better job market. That's a fact. Life was hard in other ways due to less advanced technology and medicine. There are pros and cons for each generation. But if a Boomer is telling a Millennial specifically about getting a job or buying a home, and said "in my day, we did this"... then that Boomer is ignorant as to how things have changed.
Load More Replies... This should be renamed "lazy millennials who make excuses for not working as hard as older generations"
I wonder what kind of government the GEN Z will make.When the boomer gemeration is wiped out ,let's all stand still and look around ,ok?
Yes, take a good look around. Today's young are our future leaders. If that doesn't scare the hell out of you, nothing will.
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They got a free ride. They fug dub everything they got from their parents, and on top, as they had used it up way before they were used up, they borrowed from the future, and didn't even invest any of it in said future. But, this seems to be more a US thing, as in europe, the disruptive change in generations is between people who weren't opposing Nazis, or even were Nazis, and those born too late to contribute to this evil, but too young to run the postwar society right away. Having this dividing line between our parents and grandparents, the division towards partents' generation isn't as strong. The first generation born after WW2 wasn't given that much of a free ride, and is nowhere near as entitled as it seems they are in the USA - Trump-supporting SUV driving born-again christians who hoovered away pounds of coke and elected people into office fighting against the addicted instead of against addiction, invented participation trophies, .......
The article should be called "AMERICAN millenials share things they wish older generations knew"
Came here to say the same thing. I'm also pretty sick of this artificial separation of people into millenials and boomers. Those groupings are useful tools for social studies, not everyday life.
Load More Replies... OK, I'll get hated, but can other GenXers from the US back me up? We had all this and nobody gave a rat's butt, and millennials then tell us we didn't have it that bad. How about we stop whinging about what sh*t we had, and just say, "Hey, thanks for this!" and make things *better*? Can we just try that? Without posting on social media about it? (I write with clear awareness of the irony, thanks.)
All the debates I've seen are "millennials vs boomers". Gen X is pretty much ignored.
Load More Replies... Gen X’er here, and I think they’re confusing “conservatives” with “older generations…” 🤦🏽♀️ SO many misunderstandings here.
Older generations are statistically more conservative than younger ones. Always have been... it is a function of getting old.
Load More Replies... First of all, BP, can we refrain from posting things that pit young people vs "old" people. It's not helpful. So many of the issues are absolutely true and I try not to think that way or say those things. This "argument" has existed in some form or other for each generational divide. I remember mine. As far as us boomers & technology, we have experienced a rapid explosion unlike any generation in history. Things are changing so fast it's overwhelming. You grew up on it & so dealing with rapid change is part of who you are. But consider this fair warning. What goes around comes around. At some shocking moment it will hit you that what you just said sounded just like your parents. 😱😭 There will always be new things & changes in society that when you get there you'll fail to understand. Trust me, "When I was young" & "In my day" WILL COME SHOOTING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH! Hopefully, like more boomers than you think do this, 💡! Shut up and remember.
Tired of the "boomers are stupid" stuff on here. I despise labels. This thread isn't "heartbreaking". Many of these comments apply to any generation, age, etc. depending on THE person's worldview, idiocy level, experience...etc. etc. I despise generalizations. I get tired of people looking for labels and "you did this to us, you did that to us!" stuff to divide people. I dislike all these articles that just seem to want to fan the flames, where I had been enjoying reading BP and didn't see a need for any flames.
Why is it that millennials seem to believe they/we are the first to have different beliefs/feelings/expectations etc to the generation before? It seems we expect respect for our lifestyles but refuse to do the same in reverse. On a side note the whole argument for the value of money being less now although partially true it doesn’t take into account facts like there was no such thing as ‘fast fashion’ in previous decades a person in the 50s for example had to save for a new item of clothing and would wear the same pair of shoes for years by getting them fixed at a cobbler, in essence people lived within their means
To hear my Baby Boomer aged relatives talk, they were the first. *sigh*
Load More Replies... Interesting but it is sad to see another USA centric article. It seems that most of them are.
Jip, it seems that some BP editors have an obsession with the USA.
Load More Replies... I am not a boomer, I am generation X. And to put all older generations is f'd up. I know the younger generation is not all the same. Some are lazy, some are not. My generation didn't think we could fix everything. I see that more with today's generations. If my kids bedded their a$$ busted, they got it. And my kids are good kids. The problem is, this generation, doesn't like for anyone to disagree with their opinion or how they see things. My generation can (or use to), have a discussion, disagreement and go on. This generation becomes extremely upset, ugly, and decide to scream and just be disrespectful, even if the other person isn't behaving like that. The cost of living is nothing like it use to be and it's sad. People need to really know how to interact with people. I don't have a problem with anyone with a different opinion. Everyone is different, we should learn from one another
I like to caution that we base this on comments on the internet. Who says those commenters even are Millenials, even if they claim to be? The "millenials" I've met in real-life are nothing like what the internet suggests they are, so I think a lot of that is just people being incredibly bored and trolling. It's pretty easy to find them, though - they never argue with arguments, only insult even though sometimes in long posts and do something that's called "sea-lioning" (I learned that one recently. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/sealioning-internet-trolling )
Load More Replies... These types of threads are so unnecessary. Why are people STILL pitting manufactured generational labels against each other. It's boring
Because the younger generation has to deal with this crap on a daily basis while they struggle to get by. They need to vent their frustration somewhere. Sure this isn't new, when they were young, Gen X were called the "lazy MTV generation, too much TV", and the Boomers were called "a bunch of lazy hippies". But when somebody is struggling to pay the rent and keep employed, and pay their medical bills... the last thing they need is an old person with no concept of the modern world lecturing them.
Load More Replies... Dear Bored Panda, there are more than 2 generations. There is Gen X an Gen Z. We do actually exist.
Just as my parents said that we didn't know what we were talking about, my kids say the same about me (as does this article). It is a sad commentary on humans, when we can't evolve in the right areas. Tribal knowledge is precious, and the people who won't listen to what their elders have to say, are missing out on the best of what we have to offer. In case you haven't noticed in the past couple years - Google does not know everything.
It really depends on what those elders are saying. I certainly listen to their insights when it comes to things like love and relationships because those are universal experiences. On subjects like work and property though, not so much. They bought their first house for two or three times their annual incomes, benefitted from huge rises in property value and retired on final salary pensions. I’m lucky though - they are well aware the challenges they faced are not the challenges young people face today, and they don’t pretend otherwise.
Load More Replies... Gen X here. We are now considered older. The things that are being complained about by millenials are being considered "Karens", "Simps" "Snowflakes"...and I know it wasn't the older generations who came up with those labels. And this one "That just because I don't want to be called something doesn't mean I'm a baby. People are allowed to have boundaries and things they don't feel comfortable with"....EXACTLY or does this not apply to older people?
Better title. Us young people are so much smarter and more virtuous than everyone who does not agree with us.
I think the older generation should give those younger than us a break. I’m not a boomer but no spring chicken either. I love watching younger people doing their stuff their own way. Good for them ! Leave them the F alone. If they want advice they’ll ask for it. Reading these posts does make me realise that they are under a lot of pressure, especially in the USA with debt from uni, no jobs or shitty jobs. The pay is near slavery, no health insurance, etc. No wonder so many have stress and angst.
This is a terrible article. I skipped to the end because it was just a mosh of millenials condemning the older generation. This is a load of crap! Not all of us "old people" act or feel or say or do these things. I agree with Ted Expert. Come on Panda you're better than this! I downvote this whole thing!
I don't know who these Millennials are talking to. I'm a boomer and I don't believe all the crap they are posting. Yes, we could get by making less money per hour. Prices were a lot lower for everything. I don't like to text, but I also don't like to talk on the phone. I prefer emails/messages on social media. And so on and so one. We can all point our fingers at the other generations and find stuff we didn't like, don't like, don't agree on. Big fricken deal, get over yourselves - and that's for all ages.
I think a lot of this also comes from a slap in the face of reality. Adulthood is difficult. And why are so many of them trying to own property when there is a vast housing shortage and prices are skyrocketing?
SOOOO tired of the same excuses. I am a Gen X, my sister is a Millennial. She has less education and makes WAAYYY more money than me. Nicer house, nicer car, etc. It is not any more difficult to succeed now than before. Millennials can be very successful. It does boil down to hard work and good choices, and sometimes a little luck.
Anecdotal evidence is not evidence. Thanks for the fun anecdote about your sister, though.
Load More Replies... I’m a Gen X-er. None of these feelings or thoughts are new. We just didn’t crave or need the recognition for having these thoughts and acting on them.
Correction: we might have had them, but didn't have the means to put them out for the world to see. If we wanted to, we needed to find a lector, a publisher, maybe some skills in writing (or singing or painting - whatever) and yes, a lot of luck. I bet most of Gen X would have posted their thoughts online if it had been a "thing" back then.
Load More Replies... Millenials are two generations. Gen-Y ('78-'92) and Gen-Z ('90-'00). Gen-Y and Gen-Z are not the same. Gen-Z are just now coming into their own. Can't lump them in yet. Broad generalization, I know, but Gen-Y seem to be entitled elitist crybabies who think they have some inherent right to be free of consequences.
Hm, I always thought Gen Y starts at '80 and ends at the late 90s?
Load More Replies... Yeah more bitchy whining by the younger generations about the older generations .... You know the Hippies you loved so much ... OH MY GOD !!! You hate them because they are like you ......
I think people are missing the point here. People are getting too caught up on the "us" vs. "them" mentality and missing the point. Yes, it might be a generalization to say "old" vs. "young" but most people are aware that everyone is different and while this doesn't necessarily apply to EVERYONE from an older generation, this is how younger generations feel that they are viewed overall by people of older generations. Instead of trying to prove "us" or "them" wrong and continue to believe that the younger generations are whining and complaining all the time, maybe actually think for a second, that if a collective group of people all feel this way, maybe they have a point. Instead of attempting to invalidate or disprove them, try taking a second to listen and understand them. Maybe you will then come to understand that they may have a valid point. Or if not, then you will at least understand how to make a better argument to disprove them other than, "that's the way it's always been"
I'm definitely not a millenial but these (pretty much) all apply to me
To wrap it all up, boomers' biggest fault was to let the Internet out :) Now 'we're smarter, more capable and knowledgeable, online is about more efficiency and productivity, no need to sit at work' - and no money or prospects, and gig economy is suddenly the boomer's heritage. Plus, computers don't eat out our brains and leave us more time for ourselves, friends and families- but leave us alone with our mental issues and family doesn't necessarily mean love, and we're just fine childfree. Boomer-ang thinking.
Not all millennials feel this way, not all boomers make them feel this way...way too much stereotyping and lumping people together going on here.
But regarding the directions, on the cover image (which is not in the article), even mandy of the millennials can't use the navigation on their phone :D Sometimes it's ridiculous.
OK, so... I am a boomer. One of my children is doing well and living a happy, comfortable life. The other child never, even with a lot of help from his parents, figured out how to care for himself and died young. I know things are worse now for young people, even more than it was for my kids. So I retired as soon as I could, which freed up a job for someone younger. My husband and I struggled to find enough to raise those kids, even hen we were young parents, forty-five years ago. so your struggles are not unique to your generation, but they do seem to be more ubiquitous. Not my fault, and I am so sorry for you all. To be fair, though, I doubt most of you would have done things much differently if you had been me in those times.
I am really sorry about your lost child. As for the subject: that last line is really the kicker. We all are products of the times we live in and the circumstances we were born into. All those high-praised concepts didn't come from thin air - they have always been there and people older than those being now called "millenials" have raised the problems because they suffered from them, already! We form our following generations, and as we shape and are shaped by our society, they will shape theirs and be shaped by it. Without "us" there is no "them". Without the boomers who invented the internet, a lot of the things the younger generations grow up with wouldn't exist. But put one of the younger ones into the society as it was back then and I will bet that a lot of them wouldn't really be different, as you said. Not without having the knowledge that they have now (which comes from teachers of older generations!)
Load More Replies... A LOT of these problems are uniquely American. A lot of countries have things a lot better, better wages, better support, better healthcare, better support for education, less expensive everything. When I was a kid, it was fairly cheap to live in America. I knew people in Texas (where, yes, land was cheap) who would buy land and build a 3-bedroom house for under $60,000, like 30-40 years ago (omg, I feel so old!). Now, $60,000 gets you nothing. There ARE community colleges and local universities that are still quite cheap, but you have to shop around, and tbh technical schools are probably a much better investment for a LOT of people. Even 30 years ago, a university degree was no guarantee of work. Seriously, America, you need to get back to where you were. I left America a little over 20 years ago. That country seems, to me, dead and gone. I don't even recognize that place that fills that space now.
Useless generation.....spoiled , entitled and you are learning now that life was not what they said it was going to be....no one cares about how depressed or sensitive you are...more fake illnesses have come up since the early 90s to explain why your generation is a weak link in the food chain
Boomer,their parents, their parents before them, etc have always argued the last generation had it easier. Sorrry, snowf!akes, WE all had it harder.
Not true at all, it can be definitively measured how "easy" and "hard" things have been over the years. Boomers had lower housing prices and a better job market. That's a fact. Life was hard in other ways due to less advanced technology and medicine. There are pros and cons for each generation. But if a Boomer is telling a Millennial specifically about getting a job or buying a home, and said "in my day, we did this"... then that Boomer is ignorant as to how things have changed.
Load More Replies... This should be renamed "lazy millennials who make excuses for not working as hard as older generations"
I wonder what kind of government the GEN Z will make.When the boomer gemeration is wiped out ,let's all stand still and look around ,ok?
Yes, take a good look around. Today's young are our future leaders. If that doesn't scare the hell out of you, nothing will.
Load More Replies... They got a free ride. They fug dub everything they got from their parents, and on top, as they had used it up way before they were used up, they borrowed from the future, and didn't even invest any of it in said future. But, this seems to be more a US thing, as in europe, the disruptive change in generations is between people who weren't opposing Nazis, or even were Nazis, and those born too late to contribute to this evil, but too young to run the postwar society right away. Having this dividing line between our parents and grandparents, the division towards partents' generation isn't as strong. The first generation born after WW2 wasn't given that much of a free ride, and is nowhere near as entitled as it seems they are in the USA - Trump-supporting SUV driving born-again christians who hoovered away pounds of coke and elected people into office fighting against the addicted instead of against addiction, invented participation trophies, .......
