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Poverty isn’t something that you can understand just intellectually—to truly understand someone’s financial struggles, you have to have been where they are. And, frankly, not everyone gets what the grind to survive is like. But getting a glimpse into the everyday hustle can be eye-opening… even if it is but a glimpse.

Redditor 192335 created a viral thread on r/AskReddit and urged internet users to share the things that most people don’t understand about being poor. Have a read, upvote the answers that you agree with, and if you’re feeling up to it, share your own experiences with financial struggles (and how you overcame them) in the comment section. 

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People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Just how little money it would take to drastically help reduce the average person's stress by well over 50%. I see stories like Post Malone putting 1.5 mil in his mouth, or how much the Kardashians spend on a birthday party & it makes me puke with the sheer pointless extravagance. It's time we stop treating flaunting wealth & excess like anything other than sociopath behavior in light of the world right now.

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Kori Peek
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The amount of flower and balloon arrangements alone that the kardashians go through makes me sick! All of that for a post then it's just discarded. All for show and opulence and their followers eat it up. They should be calling them out so it stops!

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Saint Thomas
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's also time multinationals and other big companies pay their fair share of taxes. It could solve global poverty and hunger in a few months...

Neil Bidle
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't forget all the rich celebs askin us to donate money when they get more in a day that we do in a year

Jeanie Roundy
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank god that donations are tax deductible, eh?

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John Juan
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here in good 'ol "Murica", income disparity is accelerated by policies that tax earned income (money paid for working a job) at a higher rate than capital gains (money created by investments). But lots of working class folks keep voting against their own self interests because of racism, religion, and other forms of ignorance promoted by the obscenely rich, corporate overlords who have taken over control of one political party.

Louloubelle
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, and also because they sincerely believe these autocrats will improve their lives. And yet, when it doesn't happen, they continue to vote for them (cough, cough, Mitch McConnell)

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Ladytiger
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The audacity of celebrities like the Kardashians is beyond me. Even during COVID when many lost their jobs and were struggling, that family showed off their wealth daily while also being culturally offensive. Disgusting

Johnny
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A wealthy person spending money on an expensive birthday party isn't so bad -- that money flows to caterers, event coordinators, waitstaff, etc. Spending it on an expensive diamond is worse.

Requiem
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Post Malone has been doing a lot to raise money to help various charities that are supporting those in need throughout the coronavirus pandemic and he’s back to it again with a new initiative where he’ll be giving his own money to fans to donate. The rapper is recognizing that not everyone can afford to donate to charities right now, so instead he’s making $1 million of his own money available for fans to determine where it should be donated. Read More: Bad Religion and Alkaline Trio are canceling their tour so fans get refunds The decision to make more money available for donating was made after the massive success of his charity Nirvana livestream. Last Friday, Post Malone hosted a livestream concert where he was joined by blink-182‘s Travis Barker for a performance of entirely Nirvana covers. During the stream, fans could donate to The United Nations Foundation’s COVID-19 Solidarity Response Fund for The World Health Organization. Within the first hour, over $1 million was raise

Sorican
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1 million is a very small fraction of his income. to put this in perspective, his net worth (not his income from rapping) is apparently somewhere like 30 million in 2020. assuming half of it is invested in stocks, with a low-end yield of ten percent returns, yearly, is still going to be one point five million in largely passive income. this is ignoring that most people that wealthy will have their investments in places like hedgefunds, or other high-performance investments, that blow that ten percent return out of the water- and generally, you'll have a lot more than just half that invested. (it sitting around doesn't make all that much cash, relatively speaking.)

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An Co
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who exactly do you think the party people the Kardashians pay are? I will give you a hint, they are not Billionaires. They are waiters, cooks, janitors, and party planners. Only the party planner themself is not poor. To tell the truth, I am sure that when you pay for an extravagant party more of your money goes to POOR PEOPLE than when you give to charity.

Sorican
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4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your economics needs a lesson. Trickle-down economics has been debunked for almost a century, before Reagan picked it up. (under the tag Horse and Sparrow Theory, 1890's). it doesn't work, because the people you're saying 'benefit' are usually paid crap, and relatively few people are actually making respectable profits off those parties. (namely, the not-poor party planner,)

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CindyLouWho1209
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And what do the rich in this country do for the less fortunate? You never hear about them doing anything like the philanthropists from the past like Andrew Carnegie who built libraries all across the country for all the citizens to use. What do todays millionaires do for society?

Becky Samuel
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have you never heard of the Bill Gates Foundation? Or have you been living under a rock? How about Dolly Parton giving millions to Covid vaccine research? There are many, many examples to choose from. This does not mean that I'm defending the super-rich in any way, but I don't believe that they're any better or worse now than they ever were.

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E. Morgan
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We need to change the nomenclature used to describe the extravagant rich. We need to call them Wealth Hoarders. Everyone hates hoarders. When 10% of the world population controls over 90% of the wealth of the world there needs to be a more egalitarian and equitable way to do things. Wealth Hoarder.

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    #2

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) As a child in poverty, how little opportunity you have, so many extra curricular activities cost money that just isn't available, I grew up in a trailer park with a crack addict mum & an alcoholic dad. If I wanted to do something it had to be free & I usually had to forge my mums signature on permission forms. We never had food, I learned to shoplift by 2nd grade. Winters were cold. I still excelled at school, because it was my escape from a shitty home life. I got taken into the foster care system, but I never got adopted, I was in a sh*tty group home, the only way out was to get a job & prove that I could live independently, so I left school at the end of 8th grade & got 2 jobs, cause the wage for a 14y.o.is sh*t, I got signed out of the system, I loved & valued education, so I signed up to do my school certificate & higher school certificate through technical college via distance education. I worked hard & did well, I applied to medical school & smashed the UMAT test. When I got to the interviews, everyone else had all these stories about the community work they did, or learning trips overseas, they'd all had tutoring. It dawned on me that while I was working 60+ hours a week to make a living, these people had been doing things to get a leg up, cause they could, cause they had resources I never had. Being born into poverty is like starting the race 10m behind the block with a broken leg.

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    K Witmer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And people that say if you work hard you'll get rich. It may happen but to only a very very small few compared to millions of very hard workers.

    Karin Jansen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to work for a big corporation, that's attempting to be more inclusive. First thing we did? Altered the selection procedure so that the emphasis was taken off "extracurricular activities" and/or volunteer work. We want to hear about your life, your background. Someone who used to work in cleaning or retail often has way more life experience and way more to often. But you have to make sure people know you value this.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This needs to be done for college applications, too. My shitty school didn't have AP classes. We lived out in BFE so I couldn't participate in extracurricular activities. I worked starting at 16, so no, I didn't have time to volunteer or take an internship. (And yet people still keep saying "You would have made time if it was important." Frankly, then, Debbie, no, it wasn't that important to be a candy striper when I was told I had to hold down a job or I'd get kicked out, and that I was "out on [my] ass" as soon as I turned 18.")

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    Random Anon
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not as tragic for me but I agree that being poor feels like starting a race behind the starting line. I worked full time since I was 14 right until I graduated college and got a "real" job. By the time, I got my degree, most peers would already have at least 5 years working with a degree. In order to land a job, I took one that required me to be posted in an unstable country no one wanted to go to. The scar from living broke is something you cannot fully recover from.

    Jeanie Roundy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would you consider yourself a success now? I'm just asking...

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    Apina
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Amen to this! I hated it when class mates said things like "we are all in the same boat" while their degree, rent and life is paid by parents and I have started uni 7 years later because needed to save money and work while studying to pay my rent and education. Noup, not in same boat. I still did well, but compared my self to those who did better even they only had the uni to focus, because getting in the next level, they don't care that others had support and made their studying easier, they just see the grades.

    Raabh Aquino
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Apina, for me, the correct saying is "everyone is on the same sea. Some are in simple row boats, very few are on a confortable yatch and most are hanging to a piece of wood trying to keep afloat.". This is much more realistic IMO.

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    Neil Bidle
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What happened in the end, did you get your good job? Don't leave us hanging!

    Pervinca
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There should be more control in parents that aren't mentally and economically capable of growing children. For me it's absurd that just because you can have them biologically it's your right to have them. Immature, addicted, violent and poor parents are a massive problem when we talk about poverty and social problems.

    AnnaBanana
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree, but that kind of social engineering is a slippery slope...

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    M Calad
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This! Some people say "they are lazy and don't give their best to get out of the poverty circle", but they are not aware that being poor means having less opportunities and many closed doors already in place. It makes it much much harder.

    Patti Renwick Parrish
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    as a single parent, i was often asked why my kids did't do this or that. well, it's because i work 2 jobs and just to pay my bills.

    Randy Klefbeck
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you are poor, one reversal of fortune by way of one questionable decision (even if it was the right or only one that seemed rational to make at the time) is less recoverable than that which someone who is not impoverished may make. Life in the U.S. at least, is a constant gamble for the working class or lower. Boom or Bust is the rule in a more Capitalist based economy without strong social safety nets in place.

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    #3

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Money is practically all you think about. Money does not buy happiness, but not having money certainly buys constant anxiety

    pajamakitten , Sharon McCutcheon Report

    𝖊𝖆
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I have more in my account than i’m expecting when checking my balance, I panic thinking “what bill have I forgotten to pay”.

    lakitha tolbert
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And this anxiety about money never goes away, even after you start to make a lot of money. You still feel anxious about your bills, you feel anxious for buying yourself anything that seems nice, but that you need, like a coat or some shoes. Things you used to consider luxuries when you were poor. Yo uget anxious about spending it, saving it. The anxiety never completely clears...

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    AnnaBanana
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Money isn't important until you don't have any...

    Requiem
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can have bunch of money in the bank and not feel compelled to spend any. When I dont have any money is when I feel I need it.

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    kjorn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    f*****g yeah. i'm not poor but not rich and even to me it's constant anxiety. i live pay by pay always hoping i'd not get my refrigerator broke down or a tooth need fixing because i don't have money for that

    Stephanie Did It
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In The Unsinkable Molly Brown, Molly explains: "It ain't that I love money so much; it's the not having it I hate!"

    Id row
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If money doesn't buy you happiness, you're doing it wrong.

    ChinmayGhule
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Money also buys you respect, or else every young and old s**t tries to give you life lessons, or even decide your career for you.

    Don't Look
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh money does indeed buy happiness but it also buys the bad things too.

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago

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    What? Bad things are like cancer, dead parents or dead pets, abusive relationships etc. Money doesn’t buy those.

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    Randy Klefbeck
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There have been recent significant studies that are very clearly evident, that money does in fact buy a level of happiness. Certainly there are some miserable rich people out there, but that is of their own making, through a psychological predisposition.

    Catherine Spencer-Mills
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    we would say, Money may be the root of evil, but lack of money is the root of all desperation

    Ash Trash
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Money doesn't buy happiness" was meant for rich people who would spend their whole getting more and more money, to try to have some sort of fulfillment in their life. Not to discourage poor people.

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    #4

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) People who aren't poor don't understand how the expenses stack on top of one another all the time. Your car breaks down, the cat needs to go to the vet, you find out that your financial aid DOESN'T fully cover your tuition now that you're at university and not community college... All of this, in a never ending barrage one after another, on top of regular bills. That's why the people who go "jUsT sAvE mOnEy" piss me off. When you're at a certain level of poverty, you can't because you're always on the knife's edge between survival and not being able to pay bills. You need every dime you have and then some.

    EgyptianDevil78 , Artem Beliaikin Report

    Otter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's an old saying: "It's very expensive to be poor". Because there's no big-box supersavers in your area so you buy too many groceries at the expensive corner convenience stores, local services are minimal and they raise prices because they have local monopolies, your used car costs 4x its sticker price in repairs but you can't afford to replace it, etc.

    Marcellus the Third
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where you live is critical --- 'food deserts' and corner shops indeed. And the cost of transport to your multiple low-paying jobs.

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    Nadine Bamberger
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can't afford the quality, high cost items so you have to get the cheap stuff even though you know it won't last and you'll have to replace it soon.

    Monic Krugell
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it all happens at once and because you can't afford the first issue it always snowballs out of control. The last person who told me to save money received our paycheck to paycheck budget and I asked them if they will give me suggestions on how to do better - needless to say I am still awaiting this person's suggestions. They don't understand that what they think is 'out of money' or 'struggling this month' means is not at all what it actually means. It doesn't mean that I overspent somewhere else, it just means that there are no other options. Someone who hasn't actually struggled yet will never grasp the concept.

    Aisling Raye
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Amen. It's when you have to replace a tire on your car and find yourself having to decide between making rent or buying food. If you have credit you might put the tire on a credit card, which probably has a high interest rate because you're not making enough to get a card with a low rate. Then you struggle to pay the credit card payment and end up in a late payment loop until you can pick up side work or (if you're lucky) get a holiday bonus from work. It's just an endless cycle of BS until you somehow miraculously crawl out of it or die.

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    Julie Terrell
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing makes me angrier than the "just save money" bs. My mom constantly used that on me. "If you'll just put $10 out of each check into savings, you'll be ok". Wrong. Every single month I had to decide if I was going to pay all my bills fully or just pay half of one and have a little extra money to feed my kids with but have a bigger bill the next month. Also because I was working full time, I was ineligible for food stamps or other government assistance.

    Hime
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or you spend so much time putting away $5 or $10 into savings that it literally takes you years to "save" any money and by then the item you saved for is gone/prices ballooned/something else broke/emergency situation takes the savings, etc. So you might have prevented a small disaster, but now you have no savings again and the cycle starts all over and whatever you were saving to replace is still falling apart or needs replacing or something else has fallen apart and needs replacing. Either way, it's constantly scraping by to keep from falling over that cliff. It gets harder to do each year, and prices just keep going up.

    Don't Look
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Save money" said by those with money to save.

    Mazer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have to constantly reprioritize. It is exhausting, and all of it gets extreme when you are homeless

    EJN
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even with an OK job, the idea that you can save money is often ridiculous. Rents go up, utilities cost big time, the car insurance, gas, maintenance, etc. take money as does your own insurance! I've always been on the edge. I suppose I could have stopped eating in order to save for old age, but then I wouldn't have made it to old age!

    H.L.Lewis
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have to make money to save money. Too many people just don't get the concept of "hand to mouth". What I get paid today, has to go pay my bill(s) tomorrow.

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    #5

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) "Poverty is not just bad decisions — poverty is an ENVIRONMENT. It's bad roads. It's poor city and county governance. It's a lack of generational wealth. It's a lack of access to a grocery store, a doctor, a bank lender, a dentist, plumbers or electricians, a lawyer, a school, a car lot, both financially and geophysically. It's despair in your landscape through forgotten and abandoned buildings that once housed businesses and families, now left to rot, while you're too poor to leave. It's watching others struggle while you yourself are unable to help, because you can’t keep your head above water either.

    Ribonacci , Chronomarchie Report

    Otter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really wish I could give more than one upvote!

    Dave P
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and usually connected to bad govt policies. Look where poverty is higher and you will gross incompetence from government, usually due to corruption.

    Luther von Wolfen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poverty is a deliberate choice of the rich.

    William Stewart
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's NOT bad decisions by the Poor. It's bad decisions by the greedpigs running our country.

    Scagsy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you could just borrow £200 to consolidate some of your debts, you might be able to stop getting charged for late or missed payments or returned direct debits. But nobody will lend it you because you are too poor. You can't break the cycle. You are doomed to fail. Something needs to change.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We repeat: LACK OF ACCESS. I grew up out in Nowheresville. If I was sick, there was no doctor/affordable healthcare/insurance. I could not walk to a library, because it was miles away. My school was 11 miles away. The only "grocery store" within 5 miles was a 7-11.

    Manu
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You've just described Colombia

    An Co
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes it is just ONE bad decision. One mistake can totally destroy your life.

    Karen Scheltema
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And haven't we all made mistakes? Especially in our youth?

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    Donna Rakowiecki
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Prices in poor neighborhoods are jacked up cost more for groceries and gas did you know?

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    #6

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) I can't just 'quit my job' to 'find something better.' Interviews take time that I don't have. I can't just skip work to go for interviews

    Juan_Tutri , SnapwireSnaps Report

    Otter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This goes x10, if you're working multiple part-time jobs.

    Sharon McIlhargey
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Done that! 2 jobs to make a "decent" full-time wage.

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    Anvime
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also you can’t ask for time off without wasting precious sick days or telling your boss that you are looking for another job. Which will get you fired

    Monty Is Fiennes
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also means you sometimes find yourself putting up with bullying, harassment, gaslighting and/or abuse at work because it is not as simple as "just getting another job". Couple that with customers treating you like crap, never making enough to dig yourself out of debt or be able to treat yourself to a movie or night out or massage or many things that average wages can afford and it it is not a surprise people do not cope, or see any point to life....

    𝖊𝖆
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugh. This! “If you were that miserable you’d quit”. it says a lot about people’s financial situations if they would rather stay at a job that damages their mental health so badly it can leave them feeling suicidal, than quit because they need an income. Do these people think we won’t have brand new stresses from being unemployed?? The people saying “just quit” probably have a high enough income they have saved a decent amount, or family they can rely on if they lost their income temporarily. For the vast majority of people, we can’t just quit if we’re not happy!

    Nadine Bamberger
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And those "bad jobs" are often so physically exhausting and mentally draining that you just don't have the energy left to go job hunting.

    Mazer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same goes with moving, which costs hundreds of dollars. I can’t just move when rents are doubled in six months

    Penny Fan
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also the jobs simply aren't there in many places. When I was job searching 6 years ago at one point there were over 3000 unemployed in my district, and roughly 350 jobs being advertised in that same area. Moving to a different part of the country doesn't help, there's no more jobs anywhere else and you've just moved away from your only support network.

    Demongrrrrl
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm amazed by the the fact that people living in someplace with high unemployment don't move to a better town. But it costs money to relocate and pay for new housing, plus there is no guarantee that they will find a new, better job

    Vasana Phong
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have nothing to fall back on, the time gap is to the point of life or death

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    Sam told Bored Panda that after doing an analysis of Credit Suisse's annual Global Wealth Report, he came to the conclusion that building wealth requires four things: belief, grit, time, and community. "Roughly 35% of Financial Samurai's readership are millionaires compared to only 6.5% of America's population. Therefore, learning as much about your personal finances as possible and interacting with a community are very important," he said that the information we absorb and the communities (both digital and real) that we surround ourselves with are vital to our long-term success.

    "Instead of just reading a book, I'd subscribe to your favorite personal finance site for free that's continuously writing about new ways to build wealth. Get involved with people who are continuously taking action to build more wealth," he suggested how we can all further our education in the world of finance.

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    #7

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Being poor is exhausting. It's draining, mentally and physically, and everyone needs a win sometimes. Sometimes that win is finding a way to just afford a meal out or a movie. Yeah, you do have bills to pay, but everyone needs a breath of fresh air sometimes. A struggle needs a break every so often

    BogeyBogeyBogey , Ben Hershey Report

    RadiatorAnkleSpider
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My family and I saw a homeless man waiting outside the restaurant we were dining at, just hoping to score someone’s leftovers. 10 minutes after my family and I were seated the homeless man follows in two ladies to a table. The two ladies invited this homeless man to dine with them. He looked like he just won the jackpot. This memory will stay with me forever.

    Penny Fan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate this idea that being poor means you can't ever have anything nice, or if you do it means you're somehow cheating. Got a smartphone? Can't be that poor. Drive a car? Can't be that poor. No-one can live without either of those things these days, you can't get to your shitty job without them.

    Donna Leske
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know where you're coming from but I disagree. I live alone, I'm below poverty level income, I've never had a cel phone, gave up my 30 yr old car 10+ years ago. "No one can live without" is an overstatement. I do fine.

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    Michael Sanders
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to see a homeless guy outside my local gas station all the time. His name was Gregg and we became friends. He had a criminal record and couldn’t find a job. I would buy him food when I could. He would go to the local shelter, but if you have ever been to 7th street in Austin and seen the shelter there you know it is a nightmare. I was moving away so I wasn’t sure what else I could do. One day I took him to target and bought him new clothes to wear to interviews, went to kinkos and wrote a resume for him and did a job search and printed out places he could go. He called me his angel. Every time I go back I look for him and even ask other homeless people if they have seen him and they haven’t. Maybe I could’ve done more, but I hope in my heart he hasn’t been around because he was able to find a job and get off the streets.

    Emma Byrne
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly this. The decision fatigue is huge. Every little decision could be the difference between eating or not.

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will buy homeless food, I won’t just give them money, too many addicts and I don’t want to be part of a problem like that. What sucks is that our society can afford to house, educate and care for everybody we just used to throw them in jail instead.

    Jeanie Roundy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interesting stats I see- It costs my state over $26,000 to house an inmate. That's more than $2,000/month!!! WTF????

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    Ross Duncan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This last year in particular has been hell. Everytime life has looked like it may get a little easier, bang Another wave of covid.

    Anita Pickle
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A meal out or a movie would break the bank for many.

    Elizabeth Scarborough
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why a monthly stipend doled out by the Government to low income and poverty level people will not only help pay the bills and put food on the table, but assist in the mental and physical ailments. This has been proven in other Countries and small communities that gave out the money.

    Wendy Lorimer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Been there, plenty. But wealth and riches are different things, wealth isn’t just about material things and most of us have things to be grateful for. Wealth is also - good friends, the occasional bargain, having some food and clothes, whatever you can find. 🌈

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    #8

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Good, healthy food is expensive after bills, and cheap food makes you feel like sh*t

    TheSexySovereignSeal , ComputeFarm Report

    Andy Acceber
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. And healthy food that is cheap takes FOREVER to cook. With public transit, multiple jobs, etc., you don't have as much time when you're poor.

    Nicola Roberts
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Working from home has given me an extra 1.5 hours a day. I now cook almost every meal from scratch because I can. It'll be compulsory to go back to the office soon, I will lose my 1.5 hours, my fuel costs will be back to over £1000 a year and I'll be eating ready meals. I guess this is the price I have to pay to keep my job. It's hard to work up the enthusiasm.

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    Andy Acceber
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm kinda disgusted by all the people attempting to "solve" this one in the comments. Do you not think the original poster is smart? Do you not believe they would have already tried these things? People experiencing poverty are the most innovative people you'll ever meet. Believe them when they tell you things.

    Marlowe Fitzpatrik
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No-one here is attempting to "solve poverty". They're just TIPS to HELP! If you don't want help - fine, no problem. But if people say that they know certain types of food that are healthy and affordable and - best - that make a meal that lasts long, can be stored and is fulfilling, why be piss*d about it?

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    Nathan Pogorzala
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Beans. Beans are God's gift to the less fortunate. Canned beans even better because they are portable. When you have extra coin, some rice. Goya was and is still a daily staple.

    David Haughton
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS! It's not that healthy foods are more expensive, they're not. (least not in the uk) people just don't know how to shop

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    MiriPanda
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a bit on the fence with this one. Healthy food does not mean expensive berries, nuts and quality meat. A hearty soup or stew with potatoes, peas and carrots IS cheap and filling and way better than a greasy fast food burger with fries. I think that today 'healthy food' often implies going to an expensive store and people seem to have forgotten how to cook a simple yet good meal.

    Burs
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It depends on more factors like how much time and space you have. I was working 70 hours a week and barely had time for groceries and had to share a fridge with other 3 people. It was super difficult to storage food or find time to cook it. I survived with pasta, rice, carrots potatoes and onions but if I had nearby a fastfood place it would have been easier.

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    Joselito El Zapatero
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Boiling potatoes, baking some carrots or broccoli accompanied by a piece of meat or a fried egg is not expensive and does not take a lot of time to make. I used to live with little money and still ate fresh and healthy.

    Vinnie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree, you can even cut out meat and do beans/lentils to make it cheaper.

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    Adam C
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    4 years ago

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    Healthy food is ALWAYS expensive.

    David Haughton
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    eh? a bag of carrots is like 50p. A single chocolate bar costs more than that.

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    Patti Vance
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i half way agree with this because, yes, a lot of what is considered healthy is too expensive. but, on the other hand, less expensive items can be healthy if you know how to cook. in my opinion, there is a large population that have lost out due to classes not being offered any more, such as what they called home economics, in schools today. granted, you can't eat like kings but it can be healthy and filling. best appliance for a strapped person is a slow cooker as that can make just about anything.

    David Haughton
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When we grew up we had f*** all and it was absolutely NOT cheaper to buy junk food. We never got junk food cos we couldn't afford it. People in the UK be like "i can't afford to, im so poor" yet their children have all the latest phones/clothes/branded foods/takeaways. But carrots and apples are too expensive. Utter bs.

    TS Rhodes
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank God for food banks! And now the free food is starting to be healthy!

    Neill Powell
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This seems to be a worldwide problem, yet the food industry throws away 50% of their crops because they don't meet supermarket standards. Also, fruit in particular has gotten bigger and less nutritious than even 100 years ago. We're eating more and taking in less nutrition. Humans are governed by their visual cortex the bigger the fruit, the greater the perception of its nutrition. And that's all wrong. pretty food is not tasty food. Since fruit is sold by weight, it's a win for growers' incomes and bad, bad, bad for the environment: More water. grow a veggie garden an realise how small real fruits and veggies actually are.

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    #9

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) We can’t be fad minimalists. We don’t let go of most of our stuff because, yes, we might need them in the future, and we’d rather not buy them again

    thejynerso , Sbringser Report

    Daria B
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True. And then, if you happen to be lucky enough to get elevated onto a higher economical level, hoarding becomes a problem too. Because you have it in your bones from your background of poverty. I don't complain, though.

    Patti Vance
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is so true! after having lived semi homeless for awhile and then finally acquiring things you tend to take good care of them so they last. and, you use everything up with no waste. it becomes habit and people who haven't had that experience will think you are just cheap.

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    Tin Woman
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This! "Why do you need all those old clothes?" Well, when the ones I'm wearing this year end up in rags, I'll need clothes I won't be able to afford. The same goes for that unnamed little piece of plastic. It will fix that other thing at some point in the future, and I won't have to buy a new one.

    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every spare part you save is a spare part you don't have to buy.

    Chucky Cheezburger
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you learnnhow to fix things...Things that would usually be tossed put and replaced with a new one. Car breaks down, theres no money to pay a mechanic to repair it. You have to do it yourself and hope you dont make it worse.

    James Arvidson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I still do not throw most things away because I might need it later. Even dumb things like a little bit of wire or an old torn up t-shirt. Even though I am doing better than I ever thought was possible. Wife is the same way.

    Susan Egan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Families that lived through the depression have family members that become hoarders. Not the buy, buy, buy type but they hold on to things that they might need. It becomes compulsive. Yet very understandable.

    LMS
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's makes semi-hoarders of us all out of need, not greed!

    Satya Bain
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I still have this mentality. Not rich by any means but I've managed to work my ass off so I'm no longer living paycheck to paycheck. Still don't have much in savings nor a retirement plan but so far I've done well enough to not sweat buckets when the car breaks down. This is all from my lowest when I lived in my car with my 3 very young children.

    Karen Garnett
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am trying to be a minimalist because I need to move out of an unhealthy situation. It is all my money involved, my home furnishings and appliances. People have no problem taking advantage of all of the things I acquired when I was working, but now that I'm not, they seem to have a big problem taking care of things. All I want, is to get out of a situation that is mentally, physically, and ultimately financially draining. For me anyway. For them, I think there are still some benefits - to them, but not me. But it takes money to get out, and to take the few things you have left in working order with you. End of the day, I think I will just have to walk away with nothing, not even a good name as a rental tenant. And yes, I am aware that having a rental property is a blessing - which comes at a price

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    Meanwhile, in my previous interview with Sam, he explained that the lack of financial education is the biggest barrier for people to rise out of poverty and become rich. And if you are stuck financially, your priorities always have to be food and then shelter.

    “We learn things like chemistry, geology, and English in high school and college, but there are no mandatory courses on personal finance. For example, if more people thoroughly understood their mortgage contracts before signing, the housing crisis between 2008 – 2010 may not have been as deep,” he told Bored Panda earlier.

    “In another example, if more people knew they could negotiate a severance instead of quit with nothing, more people would have a more comfortable financial runway to take their time and find a new job or start a new business that is truly meaningful to them. The more people are empowered with financial knowledge, the better financial decisions they can make to ultimately live the lives they desire.”

    #10

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) The fear. Fear of something unexpected you haven't budgeted for. Fear of a knock at the door from a debt collector. Fear of having to choose which of your children can eat more than once today. Fear of having to choose which days you go hungry so your children can eat at all

    flossgoat2 , geralt Report

    Daniel Cadman
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are all in that boat, wife and i have agreed to always pay rent on time. That way if we have to skip a meal or two at least we are warm and safe.

    Hime
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember once having real sliced cheese in the fridge for the first time and $10 in the bank. Nothing was broken, nothing was 'wrong' but I kept going around the house, checking things, turning knobs, watching the water run from the faucet for a minute. I was so unsettled because I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. I was afraid that I was missing something....That I had forgotten to pay a bill or something was going to break. And all I could think about was I had real sliced cheese and I wanted a grilled cheese sandwich but I couldn't settle down enough to make it, much less eat it.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was me all through undergrad, self-funded, with no available financial aid except for student loans (because we were poor, but not poor enough. That's another thing they don't tell you about being poor). So every week included choices like "do I walk to campus and save on parking fees today?" or "Can I afford a copy of Bleak House at the used bookstore for class, or do I use that dollar for 2 cheeseburgers at McD's for dinner?" The tiniest problem: getting sick, car breaks down, low on gas, whatever, throws everything into chaos.

    zovjraar me
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    we lived on the line of poor, but not poor enough as well. it's the worst. no help from social programs because you "make too much". when really, you make just enough to live paycheck to paycheck and any emergency throws your finances in chaos.

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    Merty Robinson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that fear haunts those who grow up poor every day, even if the poverty goes, the fear stays.

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please if you are in a situation where you’re having to make this hard choices utilize social services that’s what they are there for. Don’t let stigma keep you from getting what you can to enhance the basics in your life

    I I
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i eat 4 days a week 2 meals a day , done this for years , don't really need to now but as iv'e been doing it since i was a teen i just can't get out of the routine , i try and i feel guilty if i do eat on a day i usually dont

    Satya Bain
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. I still have that fear and all my children are grown. I have done without many things in order to maintain a roof over our heads.

    yellowphantom
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fear of opening your mailbox or looking at your email on a weekend because if someone screwed up a charge or a bill, you have to stew about it until they are open and you can try and deal with it.

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    #11

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) It takes two to three times longer to get anywhere on the bus than in your own car. That means leaving for work earlier and coming home later. In many places, the buses don't run as often on the weekends. Grocery shopping on the bus means just getting what you can carry, which means going more often, which means more time wasted waiting

    old-father , Clay Banks Report

    Lunar Bicycle
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Going home from my Saturday shift used to make me really anxious, because about half the time my bus would pull up just as my connecting bus was pulling away. It was an hour before the next bus. Wait for the first bus, ride for 20 minutes, miss the conbection and wait an hour, ride for 30 minutes, walk home for ten. Then when I got a car? 15-20 minute drive to work. I gained nearly two hours a day.

    Grumble O'Pug
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isnded up bike commuting because the bus took hours

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    tiari
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That one depends heavily on region. I can get inside the city faster and cheaper with the tram than with a car. And to the next big city faster and cheaper by bike and train than by car. Traffic is bad here for cars.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ALL. OF. THIS. Stop telling people they just aren't making enough of an effort. The system is literally designed against poor people in every way.

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where I live, public transportation is a joke. The fact of the matter is America was developed with cars in mind. And if you’re disabled it’s even worse.

    Martha Meyer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The fact of the matter is that most American cities had very good public transport until the 50ies. It just got destroyed by corporate interests of car manufacturers.

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    Angie Ayres
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The bus system is pretty terrible where I live. You can drive almost anywhere in 30 minutes and it would take you about 3.5 hours on the bus...

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same. Plus the buses in many cities are dangerous for women traveling alone, especially after dark.

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    Vance Pomerening
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Twice as long is optimistic. In Portland, Oregon it could take 3 or 4 times as long, especially with a bus change.

    Martha Meyer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's just a bad transit network. In a busy city, public transit is usually faster than a car.

    Stephanie Hewitt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in a city that has good transit, and this is simply not true.

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    Requiem
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Transit is s**t in some places in Canada, I used to be able to walk out my door and get on a bus an get off next to work, and back again. 40mins or more as apposed to 20 mins or less in a car.

    Richard Portman
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love public transport in my small town. It takes longer, like twice as long. It is not speedy. But i get to see my bus driver friends and we get to chat. Also we get to investigate the tourists. They are fascinating and most of them are nice. Of all the things, i miss public transport.

    Vic
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had surgery a while ago and the hospital wanted me to leave in the afternoon. I said there's no busses in the afternoon, I can't afford the taxi ride and I'm not able to walk the many kilometers home right after being cut open. The nurse just told me to call someone with a car to drive me. Like who?! Santa Claus?!

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    #12

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) You can have a job and still be poor. You can have a job where you earn $1,000 each month, but if your rent is $600–$700 each month, you spend $100+ on food (assuming you don't have to take medicine or something similar), your bills, car insurance (if you have a car), and gas for your car, what do you do with what's left after that? You can't do anything.

    glez_fdezdavila_ , Peggy_Marco Report

    WildHoneyPie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention health insurance. And heaven forbid your car breaks down

    Dave P
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if you are that poor in the US you get a fully funded Medicaid (which has been around since the 1960s), which is govt run health care for poor people. Also 1K a month 40% less than one 40 hour a week federal min wage job. But anyone earning under 32k a year gets govt health care, and can get partially subsidized up to 50K a year if you apply. Families can get full and subsidized up to even higher amounts.

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    Burs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was working in Germany between 70 and 75 hours a week for 600 euros. (I know that it was exploitation but the university didn’t care). It took me a long time to quit because I had invested too much money travelling there and at least I would get experience for the cv. You can definitely work full time and be poor

    Iggy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are very strong employment laws in the EU. If it was recently, you might still be able to report it.

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    Rose the Cook
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, if you earn a single dollar over the threshold you do not qualify for cheap wefare housing.

    Nadine Bamberger
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you can't afford to buy stuff in bulk that would be cheaper because that'd mean you'd have to spend all your food money on one item.

    Monic Krugell
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    when all your money is out of your account the day after you got paid...

    Requiem
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1000 a month is s**t. You dont have rent that high or own a car.

    Marreko De Bruig
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    a car is a no,on 2euro food you can travel 200 km,2 euro with car will get you nowhere but deeper in debt

    Damo Lee Park
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hang on. You can have a job in America an only make 12 grand a year? And that's acceptable?

    Eslamala
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    4 years ago

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    Rent is so fckn expensive in the U.S, especially.

    Iggy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here too. A one-bed in Dublin is around €1,600 a month, which is around $1,900. It goes up in nicer areas.

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    According to financial expert Sam, saving money is a powerful tool at your disposal. But the amount you save has to be sufficient. “One of the key mantras I tell my readers is this: If the amount of money you’re saving each month doesn’t hurt, you’re not saving enough! Too many people go through life, paying no attention to their finances. Then they wake up 10, 15, 20 years from now and wonder where all their money went,” he said.

    “Always pay yourself first. By paying yourself first after each paycheck, and making it hurt a little to change your spendy ways, only then will you know whether you are saving enough,” Sam urged others to look at saving seriously.

    #13

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Having money isn't everything. NOT having money is

    Snoo74401 , Goumbik Report

    Nadine Bamberger
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's all that occupies your every waking thought and haunts you at night.

    Monic Krugell
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    when you are doing impossible math's in bed trying to fit everything into your paycheck in stead of sleeping.

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    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Both are, accept that it’s just a reality.

    SocksNeverMatch
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have always struggled but was always proud that I took care of myself. Other family members they divorced well, stumbled upon carrrers etc....at Christmas with family my wonderful lovely daughter finally asked " does Santa love _cousins name_ moire than me?" I ached down to my bones for her...

    #14

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) When your parents are lying to you saying they're full when they're not so you can have the last bite.

    swattrip786 , DimStock Report

    Kay blue
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to tell my daughter that I had a big lunch at work so wasn't hungry.

    ベンジーBenji
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These are good parents though. A good parent will always go without so their children don't have to. I cannot tell you how mad it made me as a young military mother seeing women beg for hand out because their WIC formula ran out (which is a supplement program btw) while they had freshly painted nails and designer hand bags. Get your SH^# together and be a parent.

    Red Hair Blue Soul
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I still do this for my son because my mom did this for me. I don't have too but it was how I remember it from childhood

    Yasmin Janette
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did this several times when my children were young, (they are all grown up and married now,) I was raising them on my own (3 of them) if I did not have enough food I would feed them and tell them I had already eaten and was not hungry, or if it was dessert I would say I didnt fancy it, you just do what you have to.

    EJN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There shouldn't be any parent living in the US that has to do this! In fact, no one should have to do this!

    Sandy Kavanaugh
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Been there. It was a piece of toast. The last bread in the house.

    Shirley Heyn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember my Dad asking me why I only took half of the remaining butter. . . I said, in case someone else wanted more too.

    Sandra Llewelyn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's even sadder is how many people do this every day of the week.

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    #15

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Just because you're poor, that doesn't mean you automatically get welfare. You can make just slightly over the line and still be poor. My mom only made $1,000 a month, but it was still too much to get welfare

    Kakebaker95 , 1388843 Report

    CindyLouWho1209
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The government doesn't look at each case individually. Rules are rules. They have no heart, no compassion. They are a big part of the problem!

    Monty Is Fiennes
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes plus they are only interested in the money you are making ...noy how much your bills add up to... so if caring for your kids and paying off your car so you can get to work on time and putting food on the table takes every cent...your probs....Yet I have known people (not friends/family) who are scamming the system for their benefit... and you think where is a little bit of help for me??...

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    DKS 001
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked and earned $1.00 (yes, that is one dollar) over the poverty line. Because of that one damn dollar, I was denied food stamps and financial assistance of any kind.

    Dave P
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which is why we need a scale system where you lose one dollar of benefit for every dollar over the line you earn. THat way you can rise out of poverty. People actually do what is called "Rationally Poor" because they need that extra assistance and stay below that line on purpose to survive.

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    Bron
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, many years ago, I was living on $10 a week (working, lived in a caravan park). I remember one week having just rice and peas to eat.

    Burs
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or that you can even apply for it. I am a migrant so my new government won’t help me a bit. But as I left my country mine won’t help me either. I have a home because my partner takes care of me but I cannot work. If he breaks up with me I will be expulsed from this country and I will be homeless in mine

    AnnaBanana
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    4 years ago

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    Why would you emigrate without a working visa??

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was my problem with financial aid for school. We were poor, but because I wasn't living-in-my-car-poor, I didn't qualify. I had no heroic story about studying for finals whilst living in a shelter, just a mom who made shitty decisions constantly. But because my mom's income was not destitute-level, I was told "Well, she can afford to pay for your college." 1) Not without not paying for all of our living expenses and 2) she isn't going to, anyway. Now what?

    lakitha tolbert
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, a lot of the system is based on what they think people SHOULD be doing, rather than what they are ACTUALLY doing, like not making the correct decisions for their children...wtf are you supposed to do if you're dependent on an unreliable person? Why you got to suffer having a horrible life because the person you depend on is a f*up?

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    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're $50 a year over the line? You don't qualify. Yeah, that fifty bucks buys... nothing.

    just me
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a student who didn't qualify for free/reduced meals because mom filled out the form "correctly." It asked how much she was awarded in child support, not how much she actually got. Some top level bureaucratic b*!!$hit. If it asked how much was received they would have qualified and it would have taken a huge strain off of that family.

    Patti Vance
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    totally true. people who criticize those on aid don't understand that those people really want to work and many of them do but it is still not enough to live on. and, if you make a few dollars more than the govt allowed amount you are screwed because now you live hand to mouth. if the govt would learn any lesson, whether it be about assistance or drugs or whatever it is this: you can't have blanket laws and regulations and believe that all people will be helped. it doesn't work that way

    Jenn C
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't get a second job because I would make just enough to not qualify for Medicaid anymore. Then I'd have to spend most of my 2nd job income on paying health insurance

    Demongrrrrl
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I survive on Disability. I'd love to get a job, but it would cost me my health insurance, which I need because I am disabled. Same for going back to school. I don't want to be stuck on government assistance, but I don't dare try to get off it.

    Karen Scheltema
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because I am disabled and have complex health needs, I absolutely need the health care benefits. So I can't even consider trying to work.

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    Sam pointed out that large families have various strategies that help them save money, even though they have more mouths to feed. “Use hand-me-down clothing and shoes for all children with occasional aesthetic adjustments between boys and girls if desired. Buy food in bulk. Send kids to a preschool co-op where they require parental involvement usually once a week.”

    The expert continued: “Send your kids to public school and forget about the ridiculous cost of private school tuition. Enjoy the free parks and libraries. Have kids share rooms to save on buying a larger house. But the two most important things are having one parent who works to help subsidize healthcare costs and avoiding private schools.”

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    #16

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) That poor people can't take advantage of sales or bulk purchases. They literally spend whatever they earn on basic necessities. Being poor is a vicious cycle, and it takes many sacrifices to get out, if ever

    kotran1989 , Leroy_Skalstad Report

    Penny Fan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wrote a scathing email to some Lady Something or other who was spouting in the press about it being cheaper to buy in bulk. I pointed out that when you have £15 to buy food for a week, a £20 bag of pasta may well be cheaper than 6 x £5 bags but what else are you going to eat. I told her to read Jack Monroe's Bootstrap Cook but she just repeated her mantra at me.

    Marny
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her comments were utterly disgusting. The sheer arrogance of presuming to know poor people's lives better than them. Good on you for responding to her.

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    Aisling Raye
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or the fun of if you do qualify for aid for food benefits, those benefits only cover food (and even then there are restrictions on what foods) They do not cover hygiene products, so no soap or shampoo or toothpaste or deodorant etc. They don't cover toilet paper or household cleaning products. One of my favorites is that buying a precooked roasted chicken costs less than buying an uncooked chicken, but the roast chicken isn't covered and the raw chicken is. If it's "ready to eat" it isn't covered. If you don't have a way to cook food, having benefits like those are of little help. (I didn't say no help, they definitely make a big difference ....there are just fundamental flaws in the system. Thanks U.S.A. ugh)

    Mewton’s Third Paw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bulk purchasing sounds okay until you have $15 in your bank account meant to last all week and the bulk food items all start at $15. Then it sounds fuçking stupid and wasteful almost.

    Kelli Girouard
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember buying toilet paper one roll at a time because I didn't have $18 for a 12 pack. Or using paper towels when the TP ran out to hold my over until next payday. Basic hygiene products often seemed like a luxury.

    just me
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't buy higher quality of some items (like shoes) because they cost more at the time. So you have to buy cheaper things more often and end up paying double or more over the life of the higher quality item.

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Try finding a grocery store in an inner-city

    EJN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they usually have to shop at small stores with inflated prices! The poor parts of town don't have a COSTCO or Sam's Club!

    DC
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once you get a schedule in it, you can achieve that by saving up that little amount for when stuff is on sale and cheaper. But, actually, I'm not poor anymore, and to keep it that way, I do all the bulk shoppery when stuff is on special sale... Like, 100 liter of cola and similar, paying 30 ct less a liter this makes me ahead by 30 € a month or so...

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    #17

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) That being physically safe is a luxury, not a given. It can be dangerous to not be conscious for a couple of hours. When you're homeless and sleeping somewhere, you're not thinking about tomorrow; you're thinking, 'What if I get woken up, and there's a knife to my face?'

    xisnotx , ArtTower Report

    Debbie Barnes
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You'll never know the full value of having a roof over your head and the security of four walls, until you have been homeless. I was in this position and the lesson I've learnt is that if you have a key in your hand and enough food to survive, you have everything you need. Homelessness can happen to any of us and for most, that's something we find ourselves nodding to, but never really accepting...

    Keating_5
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Solidarity-I’ve been there too and know what it’s like. Even sleeping in a car, so some shelter from the streets, being terrified of being arrested for loitering or someone trying to rob me of the shitty car kept me up at night. Years later , I still don’t sleep well at night due to habits formed from being on the streets and always being in a watchful, anxious state.

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    Luther von Wolfen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was homeless, I would stay awake all night and sleep in the day because in the day I was less likely to be killed.

    Marreko De Bruig
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i ,m not homeless annymore,2 main coons,they lower my bloodpressure64,not making 15 k a month annymore so tax out of my life,that helps

    Marreko De Bruig
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    lived in tent 2 by 2 m for 1,5 years dutc temp,so frost in winterminus 20 te worst

    Marreko De Bruig
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    been homeless twice,as a 15 year old and as near 60,paying 7000 tax a month.

    Tara B.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is heartbreaking and infuriating. LA constantly refers to its “homeless problem,” when really, to those excessively wealthy snots, the “problem” is having the SEE them. Terribly sorry that human beings, whose lives you could easily turn COMPLETELY around for half the price of one of your damn handbags, clutters up the sidewalk near your favorite boutique.

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if you have identification and paperwork which is required by most government agencies or the police department when they are waking you up at 4 o’clock in the morning, Chances are if you’re living on the street in your paperwork is in a bag it’s going to get stolen

    Requiem
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They dont concern them selves with that, Ive been dealing with the Homeless for 10 years and have worked Shelters as security. They get real upset being woken up from a Deep sleep to be told it isnt safe to be unconscious in that location. They still steal from each other in the Shelters.

    F. H.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can well believe that both attitudes are true. It probably changes when you stay homeless for years and you lose many of your initial fears - due to experience, drugs or both.

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    #18

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Having sleep for dinner.

    Seannj222 , Olichel Report

    Random Anon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The skill of suppressing hunger. I picked that up as a kid. I suspect that was the cause for my gastric issues as I am greying now.

    Green Machine
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's easier than being awake and hungry. :/

    Keating_5
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sleep and water from the sink, so I’d have an excuse to get up and go to the bathroom in the middle of the night and cry if I needed to.

    Helenium
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I couldn’t afford to use the electric so read by torch or sat in dark. Slept in living room as kitchen was same room and warmer than bedroom. Five pound a week on food. Walked four miles to work and back in all weathers even bough people I worked with lived by me and didn’t want to help. So yeah been there.

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    #19

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) If you have a bank account, you probably have to pay a monthly fee because your balance is too low. If you overdraft, they charge you another $35 even though they can see you've got nothing in there.

    old-father , Toa Heftiba Report

    Randy Klefbeck
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After having a charter account for nearly 18 years (you are one of the first persons to sign up for a new account at that branch, so they give you free checking for life) my bank was absorbed during the great recession.....twice in fact....and immediately I was being charged $10.00 a month for not having direct deposit.....???? I went to a credit union after that.

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    Andy Acceber
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Banks are predators. In the U.S., I don't understand why anyone still uses them when credit unions are accessible and have substantially less fees. ('Not to fault this poster at all. The issue is not that they had an account; it's the fact that banks surcharge poverty.)

    Horizon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even credit unions do this. $35 overdraft fee… I have had to deal with this a lot being poor. Kills me.

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    GENEVA SUAREZ
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one gets to me the most. It's like being punished for being broke!

    Aisling Raye
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Our records show that you have no money, or policy states we need to charge you for your lack of funds"

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    DKS 001
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah wtf is up with that? "Hey, I see you don't have enough money in the bank. That's gonna cost ya. Oh, did that put you under? That's another $35. Thanks. Have a nice day."

    Dave P
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    overdraft is you borrowing from the bank, they are loaning you money and that is a loan fee. The fees for low account amounts dont make sense but bring in a lot of revenue for the banks

    DC
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A saying is, you can't reach into a naked guy's pocket. Oh, what a blatant lie! You certainly can, just not without ripping apart some flesh to create said pocket...

    SocksNeverMatch
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    rent checks have bounced because overdrat fees are applied BEFORE my rent check is processed

    David Andrews
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the US do banks not offer basic bank accounts? In the UK nearly all banks offer some form of free bank account, though they will likely not have features like overdrafts unless you agree to some sort of fees

    Anon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah but people aren't aware of the options. Knowing that requires financial literacy sometimes.

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    Susan Egan
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a bank run the same check through 3 times and charge me a $35. overdraft each time. I couldn't believe it. The excuse was it's automated. It took too much discussion the get it down to a single charge. Crazy.

    Lynn Morello
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I placed a STOP on my bank account preventing it from dropping below $0.00

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    #20

    The embarrassment and ridicule of letting your teacher and class know that you cannot go to an expensive field trip because your parents do not have the money.

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    I want cake
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was lucky to go to a secondary school that had a fund for children whose parents couldn't afford school trips, or I would have missed most, if not all of them.

    CindyLouWho1209
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank God your school had a fund for those situations!

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    Vicki Thill
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...or going on the free class trip, but having to watch everyone else eat the lunches their parents made for them. When my kids went on school trips I always sent extra food for them to give. I told them to hand the food over and say, "It was my moms turn to make the lunches" every single time. Or...if they were stopping somewhere to eat, like mcdonalds, I'd send an extra money and ask my kids to eat last in order to see who hasn't gotten food. They are grown men today and still watch to make sure everyone is eating.

    Vicki Thill
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dealt with a very lot of the s**t lack of money does to a kid, but watching kids eat a lunch their mom made for them while I had nothing, was brutal. I didn't know it cost money to pack a lunch for your kids, I thought their mom loved them more than mine loved me.

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    SocksNeverMatch
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I asked my ex husband for $50 so our daughter could sign up for an afterschool activity...received kabillion texts on how I should be sending him money cuz he paid rent once or twice in the l6 years wwe were married. Than...my family would not help because they said it was his responsibility....she was not able to sign up. After that, I let the electiric, internet get cutoff so she could sign up for SOMETHING

    MrOwlAteMyMetalWorm.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're an amazing mom.I love you.Let's keep fighting.

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    Random Anon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You learn to make acceptable excuses early on. I did. Just to avoid the drama. Going to the grandparents for example.

    Tara B.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was in this boat. Luckily I had a compassionate teacher who took me aside after class to ask if the reason I wasn’t going on field trips was because of the fees. She got me on all my 8th grade field trips without charging my extremely broke family a dime. Can we please stop paying politicians hundreds of thousands a year and ship some of that to our teachers?

    Tanya MacLeod
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sold tons of extra chocolate bars in grade 8 so my friend would be able to come on the field trip. Her family couldn’t afford even the candy. My mom sold them at work.

    Anita Pickle
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The parent that to see their kid go through this

    Toko Danganronpa
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This saddens me. I've never had to struggle with money and can only imagine how horrible this is.

    Penny Fan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Only having a few clothes that weren't school uniform didn't help either...

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    #21

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) When we save up money, something happens that forces us to use that money we had saved, which starts a hard-to-break cycle

    Chicago1202 , jarmoluk Report

    Nadine Bamberger
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you get government assistance you're not allowed to save up, it will be taken off of what you get. Especially when you have a disability.

    lakitha tolbert
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom is on disability and hit the lottery once. The government penalized her for six months.

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    Pryjmaty
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My elderly mother receives $817 a month. In order for her to try to save a few dollars a month, without any of her "benefits" being reduced or taken away, her savings account has to be in my name. She usually tries to save about $20 month. Some months, she's not able to save anything.

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never, EVER talk about even a minor windfall in the presence of any vehicle or appliance. It will hear you, and take it as a sign that it's time to die and be replaced.

    mamafrog
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The car breaks down, a tire goes and the spare is bad, somebody is sick, something breaks, and on, and on, and on...

    Hugo A-niro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The government keeps the disabled poor

    SocksNeverMatch
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes! every time I ended up with some savings....I get a flat tire, parking ticket, abcess tooth..

    Keating_5
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Needs to be higher up. It seems like when I was poor, something ALWAYS popped up to set me back right as I was getting ahead. It fueled my pessimism that much more so that my mental Health declined to new lows of feeling like I was never going to ever just get to life unbothered, and I still struggle with that today when I have setbacks (though thankfully not as many as before).

    Norah Reilly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a "permanent" part-time job that has benefits. That seemed doable until I was off work for one month for one healthcare issue and then (only two months later), for three months for surgery. The $2,500 that I had saved went to pay my co-pays. Now, I have NO MONEY in the bank and am looking and am looking at having to be off work for another month. If things are this stressful for me, what hope do all of the other folks who have nothing going to do?

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There’s no public transportation where I live and yet I can’t afford to keep my vehicle In repairs, I keep asking the local government if they will at least let people have an option to pay their car registration annually, biannually, quarterly or monthly. They ignore me which is what you get used to you as well, You’re either ignored or you’re being punished

    Mewton’s Third Paw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Always! Either you have to ignore the thing that forces you to spend the money or you have to come up with some scheme to make more saved money.

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    #22

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) What it's like to actually start to starve and be desperate enough to steal food, the longest I ever went without eating was 5 days and it was absolutely miserable

    I_want_a_HSP · , Myriams-Fotos Report

    Lunar Bicycle
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never had to go a day without food, but I ate some awful stuff to get by. Once I had nothing but two cans of tuna per day for 11 days. A few months prior to that I did peanut butter, bread, and Rice Krispies for 5 days. I did not feel well at the end of those weeks.

    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been that hungry. I ate anything. I learned what I could harvest in the woods, what bugs could be eaten, how to catch things in the creek, whatever it took. I was, like, 8-10 years old. So.... that's in my bones forever.

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    Luther von Wolfen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You never forget that kind of hunger.

    Stephanie IV
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hunger has another face when you don’t know when your next meal is.

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    Elly Anna
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my early 20's, I left my small-town life in Northern California to move in with a friend in Orange County, CA. While there was an abundance of jobs, I had spent all of my savings by the time I finally found work. I had $30 for gas to get to work until payday, and that was it. The place I worked at was an office complex, and did not have so much as one vending machine. We didn't have any food at home I could take to work for lunch, so I just skipped lunch for two weeks until my first paycheck. During the second week of my employment, my boss bought lunch for everyone in our office. While it may not have been the best deli sandwich I ever had, I appreciated it more than any other sandwich in my life, and I will never forget my boss' act of generosity in one of my most desperate times.

    OhForSmegSake
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Been there, done that. Stolen fruit and veg from peoples gardens, food from shops, and I've dumpster dived bc the charities had all run out of money and donations. All my money was going towards rent and medications

    Austin Alexandersson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dad had a stroke when i was 10. Mom was working strugling to pay for the bills and medication and doctors. quite a few times we would cook ''poridge'': cheap flour toasted in the pan to have a nutty taste, then add water and a bit of salt. it would be thicker or thinner depending on how long it needed to last. if lucky we added some herbs we forraged like nettles or bay leafs from the bushes in the park. that was until i finished highschool and found odd jobs that i could do for a meal or money.

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    Nadine Bamberger
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Endless rice and butter or pasta with ketchup..

    Kaisa Koo
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And at the same time grocery stores throw away perfectly good food and lock their bins. So wasteful it's criminal.

    Nikki Sevven
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poverty pancakes, anyone? Flour, baking soda, and water. Fry them up in a nonstick pan without butter. Top with whatever leftover jam is in the fridge. Now when I make pancakes, they're full of butter and eggs, fried in butter, and served with crisp bacon and real maple syrup. Otherwise, I can't tolerate them.

    Burs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is heartbreaking

    James Arvidson
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whatever you ate on that 5th day was the best meal of your life. Mine was tuna fish in a can the first time it was about 5 days. Usually it was a day or two. Hated even the smell of it until that day. 35 years later I get this weird happy feeling having a tuna fish sandwich. But have lost the ability to feel hunger. I forget to eat until I start getting lightheaded.

    Lynn Morello
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw a guy come into the lunch room and ask for a pack of Free Biscuits that they hand out with tea and coffee. I bought him a pie and a coffee and followed him out, and went to give them to him, He said to me, 'I don't want that '. I responded, "I thought you were hungry and would appreciate something to eat'. No, he didn't want. Maybe it was his pride, I certainly didn't want to make a big deal out of it, so I left him.to himself. A week later, he asked me if I could get him a coffee. I had to say no, because the canteen was closed and there was no coffee machines available. I feel sorry for him, and I know he doesn't want anyone's sympathy. I just wish he would have accepted help when it was offered.,

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    #23

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) When you are a kid, the boredom. All of my friends had interests. BMX, hunting, ninja stuff, action figures, and video games. And their parents fostered their interests and provided funds to grow in their hobbies/sports. I had some stuff, too, but never had the sort of continual investment to pursue something like a hobby or interest. Everything was secondhand, bootlegged, pirated, half-working, etc

    mechtonia , DayronV Report

    Otter
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you can't even get to whatever free activities are available in your area, because you have no transport. There's no spare money for gas, your parents are working long hours and aren't available to drive, they can't afford to buy you a bike, you've got no extra money for the bus, and the streets aren't safe enough for you to walk.

    Sharon McIlhargey
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True that! Many times I was told by a doctor "Get him into after school activities, like swimming." What a joke! OK, first I have to go across town by bus (or walk about 40 minutes one way) to pick my son up. Then walk to the bus stop 20 minutes away. Hope the registration is geared to income and that we're eligible (YMCA). Do the activity. Walk to and wait for another bus (probably with wet hair from swimming). Hope we don't get sick while waiting for said bus. Long ride back. And by the time we're done commuting, it's bed time. How's this healthy? Spending free time online at the library (free) was definitely better.

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    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Relatable. All the other kids got to do hobbies and classes and instruments and camps. You really miss a lot of childhood AND you miss some things that prepare you for adulthood, if your parents are poor.

    Keating_5
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reading whatever I could get my hands on, every scrap of paper, discarded magazine-I even read the dictionary every day just to not be bored. And whatever TV I could watch, I memorized more commercials than I can say and acted them out when I wasn’t watching TV. But mostly just staring at the wall, into space and telling myself stories to entertain myself-I’d like to believe it’s why I’m a good writer now, because I can slip into other worlds I create fairly easily from practice.

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the poor deserve a thank you card from all of the wealthy neighbors because we made them look good

    Heather Menard
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can attest to this. The tv was the only thing that I had to occupy my time. Then I would get fun of for saying oh I saw this on the TV

    Randy Klefbeck
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I also am a small time cartoonist. I got that skill because my family did have $ for action figures, so I drew and cut out of paper my own. Background scenes etc. Kids ask me how I learned and I tell them...."when I was your age...practice."

    Randy Klefbeck
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry, meant to say my family did NOT have money for action figures.

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    LMS
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing breaks a parent's heart faster than not being able to buy something for your kid that other kids all have. Like for example when everyone is wearing Levi's to school, and your kid has to wear Rustlers from Walmart. Or he can't be in cub scounts because you don't have the funds for the uniforms, activites and day trips/

    Fourchette Et couteau
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... my kids who get to have activities/hobbies, do not value them as much... maybe it takes our adult's insights to realise the privilege / missed opportunities...?

    Michael Sanders
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    of course this is sad, but saying “ninja stuff” is funny

    Adam C
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never had video games growig up. My older brothers had 1 but we never gets to play. If we were quiet we was allowed to watch them play.

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    #24

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) A lot of things that wealthy people have access too isn't as accessible or often as good. Its gotta be pretty friggin annoying for people who can barely afford food to be told that they should see a therapist. Like yeah, mental health is important but so is eating, and mental health is also going to take a hit when the money you used to talk to a therapist for an hour is going to eat into your food budget or bill money

    radpandaparty , selenee51 Report

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you’re really poor, a therapist wouldn’t even be a consideration. Nobody poor is paying just to talk to someone when they have bills to pay.

    EJN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mental health care, especially counselling, should be free to people under a certain income level. If society wants a sane environment for life, then why aren't people given access to the tools they need to live sanely?

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    Parmeisan
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mental health services should be free. It is too important and too likely to be low on a list of critical priorities. And think how much the government could save on health spending if there were fewer problems with addiction, more people capable of holding jobs & paying taxes? It probably wouldn't pay for itself entirely but it would be cheaper than you might assume, and we would ALL benefit.

    Cori
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This right here. And even if you're lucky enough to have insurance, most of the time it still isn't covered. Mental health therapy is quite literally a luxury here in the US.

    Candia Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are free mental health services in many cities and counties, or at least there were when I took advantage. There are also drug trials with free medicine. There was even low cost transportation.

    Mimi M
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And having enough money would take care of (at least) half the reason for the therapist in the first place.

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Medical care!!!!! Inefficient and ineffective

    Tara B.
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of therapists who have smaller private practices will do pro bono work, and a lot of states are now implementing mental health care into their welfare services. It’s worth looking into. But also BEYOND f—king ignorant to tell someone living off of saltines and ramen to go see a $200/hr therapist.

    Karen Scheltema
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mental illness is seen as a problem of bad character, not as something that is just as important as medical illness. Medical health and mental health are, in fact, inextricably linked and equally important. Unfortunately, insurance companies (including those run by Medicaid) just often don't get it. Social workers and other volunteers who are out in the field helping homeless and other marginalized communities understand this, but can't get enough government funding to even make a dent in helping with this problem.

    Sky Render
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So glad the Oregon Health Plan exists...

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    #25

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Growing up poor leaves scars that never heal.

    drlavkian , Kyle Broad Report

    Random Anon
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You need to learn to cope eventually. I still dread doing my monthly balances because of how it shoves reality in my face when I was young. I still do not live a lifestyle my peers can afford to for fear it would all go away. But then, you need to remind yourself, you're not who you were time and again. Otherwise, you wouldn't live at all.

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s good in a way though. I talk about this with my business partner A LOT. We never leave pending items because if we do, the “poverty shark” might come get us. Basically we live like we are literally being chased by a shark that’s right behind you and you have to swim and thrash and flee as fast as you can or it’ll get you. Literally putting everything we are on the line just to never feel or be poor again. We both have PTSD from growing up dirt poor.

    Keating_5
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is an excellent way to describe it and possibly child friendly enough that I might use this phrase from now on, so thanks!

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    Aisling Raye
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm doing okay now but I can tell you this for sure, it never leaves you. I still only buy the store brand products. Will never pass up a sale on canned or non-perishable items (bc you never know when you'll need to eat beans for a week) I can't for the life of me convince myself to buy a new car even though I could...but why would you? My 2007 still works. Sure there is no fancy blue tooth and two speakers are blown but I mean, why? I'd rather not have a car payment. It's one less thing to worry about for when it all inevitably comes crashing down. That's exactly the mind set...it never leaves you.

    Satya Bain
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember my uncle being of substantial means. When I was old enough to understand, I was told that he grew during the great depression and the war and all the abject poverty that befell so many during that time. After he died, and the house handed over to his eldest grandchild did we understand exactly how badly that had affected him. He had a room in the house where he had hoarded canned goods in the event there was another catastrophic event that would plunge the economy into a desperate tailspin. The expiry dates on more than half of it was from the early 80's. The scars stay there and are constant, ugly reminders of a different reality.

    Maximiliano Rodriguez
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The guilt of being able to spend on something for me. My family always struggled, never vacationing, wearing clothes until we couldn't do it anymore, the meal was planned to calculate the cost so it lasts until the end of the month, walking instead of bus. Growing up things went better but buying things means spend a lot of time thinking if it's necessary. Always worring that you can go back to being in a bad situation and that money will save you. it's tiring, the head never stops thinking about it.

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You always think homelessness is just around the corner again. That’s where the stress lies. And knowing that society makes it super hard for homeless people no access to bathrooms benches design so you can’t lay on them you can only sit on them. Cops constantly moving you on

    Tara B.
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so very true. I grew up with landlords pounding on the door for rent and utilities getting shut off. I make six figures now and I still feel anxiety every time I write a rent check, or hear a knock at the door, or the power goes out. I frantically go through my daughters’ clothes every month or so to make sure none of their stuff looks old so they don’t get made fun of the same way I did. You can pull yourself up from how you grew up - ain’t easy but it’s possible - but the scars (apparently) take much, MUCH longer to fade, let alone heal.

    Sandra Llewelyn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am relatively Ok now, but I still check my bank balance and budget everyday in case I forget something

    SocksNeverMatch
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It forever will F*($ up my daughter. Even though her cousins ended up not being productive and she has.

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    #26

    That you never sleep well at night, NEVER! Your mind is constantly in overdrive wondering which bill(s) will or not get paid this month. That the smallest unexpected expense can completely put you over the edge.

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    CindyLouWho1209
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember hoping to make to the end of the month without another bill coming in the mail or a check bouncing, which would result in an overdraft charge. So stressful being poor, living paycheck to paycheck and being surrounded by friends and family who have it all. They don't understand why you can't go out to eat or go shopping like they do. It really hurts. 😪

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah, sometimes you’re poor and working a physically difficult job like construction or waiting tables. You’ll sleep great because your body will eventually run out of energy.

    Keating_5
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Until the crushing anxiety wakes you back up because it’s screaming at you that you’re failing and your body is so exhausted it hurts all over no matter what and you can’t relax because you have no decent place to sleep anyway. Stayed up for 4 days that way and was so sick I had to be taken to the hospital, where they couldn’t do much but I got a cozy bed for a few hours and some meds to help me sleep better, but it still took me 2 weeks after that to actually sleep “well.” Lack of sleep is a vicious, vicious cycle really, and causes a lot of homeless people to “go insane” AKA just be so exhausted they start to detach from reality a bit.

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    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if you live in your car you constantly worried a cop is going to knock on your window and tell you to get a move on, Being a woman living on the streets you’ve got a whole lot more to worry about that men don’t have to think about

    Evelien Stijger Martens
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband never experienced that feeling of just being scared all the time of not being able to have enough money to get to the nekst paychek. He thinks it is very simple not to have mutch, he just takes the bus and train when we can't aford a car. Oke, and what if you can't aford that ore uou have to take 6 people by bus and train, that is very 3xpencive and no option at all. When we go out somewhere at the end of the afternoon we just have to get home because of overstimulation. We can't 2alk to the bus, sit in the bus, go to the train, wayt for the train, sit in it, get to our town and walk home. Its way to exhausting and we don't want this for the people around . Its not simple and it scares me he thinks it is. He does not know how to fight, so he lets everything go and thinks its easy when he loses income.

    James Arvidson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Balancing and deciding which bills you can get away with not paying so you can eat.

    Queen Metapha
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For my brain sleep sometimes is the only break it can get

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    #27

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) When you’re really poor, everything you see is something you can’t have

    RWD235 , Andriyko Podilnyk Report

    Robin Childers
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely. TV commercials just piss me off sometimes.

    EJN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What really irks me is seeing those TV programs about the lifestyles of the wealthy. Feeding this to people is what keeps the poor feeling like failures, and the middle class aspiring to a self-centered lifestyle that they can never afford (and go into debt to get a piece of it on credit).

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    angied4liberty
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is why I am glad that there are some free streaming services without commercials or ads. Makes Christmas a lot cheaper when you don't see 100 toy commercials a day.

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    #28

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Ninety percent of the time, you cannot fail or make a bad/wrong decision. If you do, it will take years and years to recover from that.

    aspluiz , Leroy_Skalstad Report

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the older you get the less chances you have.

    Hugo A-niro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For women the struggle is worse Some men can find labor work both women usually can't .

    EJN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And, at some point, the choices become so limited that there are NO GOOD CHOICES.

    Sammi Danni
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yup, i just had my bike stolen (my only mode of transportation) and yes it was returned in pieces. but i had to borrow money to buy a new one, and now i am in debt for the next 2.5 years. thankfully it was a loan from a family member, so no high interest rates or cc used

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On top of that when other people make bad decisions that impact you you have no recourse. I had two surgeons screw up my leg they left the state now I’m trying to find another surgeon which is nearly impossible it’s been four years now. Every month that goes by more damage occurs. When surgeons find out your poor they like to be either abusive arrogant or they gaslight you. If you really need some thing done in a timely manner you’re gonna have to chase it down, If you have a developmentally disability or you don’t speak English is your native language it’s going to be 10,000 times harder and worse

    #29

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Most of the time it’s out of their control, there’s usually a backstory. Also it’s harder to pull your self out of poverty than most expect.

    Weird-Difference-917 , Nick Fewings Report

    Porch Santa
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only reason I’m not right now is because a random guy invited me to live for free out of my home town, and magically I got a decent paying job that treats me like a creature instead of a cog. It just took 15 YEARS. So I guess I got that going for me. I love you Bill Murray and shall weep when you leave this coil.

    Burs
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of people forget that poverty is more often than not unrelated to the persons past and decision. You can come from a “good” family, you can have studies, you can have worked 29 years and still be poor. I come from a middle class family, have two masters and speak several languages. But I am too ill to work so I am not homeless just because I have a partner. If not I would be a beggar and people would tell their kids “this is what happens if you don’t study”

    Daria B
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True. Also, sometimes one unexpected event is all it takes to take away everything from you. Like, for example, a (natural/political) disaster, some sort of family tragedy, sudden incapacitating illness etc.

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    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m always telling people who are on the edge use social services do whatever you can do to not get into a homeless situation. Once you have no address once you have no place to have bills sent to or an address to put on a résumé you’re screwed

    James Arvidson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Joined the Army. Taught me a lot of life skills I never learned. Struggled when I got out for a quite while. But realized they taught me the one thing I needed. Confidence. I still struggle with a lot of things from growing up poor and homeless at times. But realized that I had nothing to lose. Took risks while I was single. Crazy risks. Would make a lot. Then lose it. Make more. Then settled down and make a good living with less risk. Things still haunt me. I hoard at times. Especially food. "Collect" things that I get for free to use, resell, etc.. Everything is a potential resource. Live below my means. Buy used cars and drive them until they die. One thing I learned as well. Never be in a position where someone can hold a job over your head and fear losing it. If in that position never let them know it. The confidence will open doors.

    #30

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) It takes up all of your time. I remember not being able to stock up on necessities. So I would have to run to the store a lot more frequently. I couldn’t afford a car so I would either have to bus or walk. All of these little things eat up so much time

    SparkyValentine , Nathan Dumlao Report

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if you can’t walk because of a disability you’re screwed. The local social service transportation system requires you fill out a form the size of the book war and peace and they demand that you give them an hour before an hour after every single pick up or drop off which means you’re gonna have to be standing in 100+ degree weather or freezing weather for over an hour before and after each appointment

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Flip side, being wealthy takes up a ton of time too unless you win the lottery or something. A lot of time working and BECOMING your job / your business. It’s kind of more than being poor in a way because you never clock out.

    Keating_5
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, having been around wealthy people and rich people a lot later in life, they often have so much free time they have to invent new ways to look busy. That why they do charity works, organizations, work trips, vacations, balls and galas, they’re bored and need to feel like they’re doing “something.” I’ve been on both ends of the spectrum to know what I’m talking about: it’s much harder and more time consuming to be poor than rich and especially when your wealthy and your money largely works for you.

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    I want cake
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you can't get all your shopping from one place, you go to different shops for different offers because you just can't justify buying something full price if it's on offer somewhere else - mind you, this was valid for me doing my shopping on foot or bike, so no transport costs to take into account.

    Jrizzy Jay
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    4 years ago

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    Time for what? what would you be doing with this time. Unless you are efficiently using every minute of your day, don't complain about not having time.

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    #31

    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Everything you buy has interest attached to it, because you’re NOT using that money to pay off debts that you definitely have.

    Kanedi4s , stevepb Report

    Green Machine
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WHY IS THIS NOT HIGHER! You throw food on a credit card, it takes longer and costs more to pay it off cause of the interest. You stress if you can afford the minimum payment on either the credit cards OR the medical debt that's piled up cause your job doesn't offer you health insurance... Being poor is like almost drowning every single day.

    Stephanie Hewitt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this is a USA thing. I've never been able to have a credit card because I'm too poor.

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah but if you’re that poor you just shrug off any debt that you know you can’t pay. All they’ll do is hit your credit score which is bad anyway if you’re poor.

    C Terry
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They can, and will, still sue you for some debts. Then the debt skyrockets because of attorneys' fees. If you moved and didn't get served the papers then there is a default judgement against you that they can use to garnish your wages. It isn't just about credit scores and creditors don't care about our situations. Even the Covid aftermath is not enough to garner consideration from creditors.

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    The lengths you'll go to so you can avoid falling back into poverty after you got out of it.

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    Yevvie ART
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have panic attacks every time we've got to throw out spoiled food because I've been in a position of having one meal per week and throwing out even dangerously spoiled food triggers me in a superstitious way of "now I won't ever have food because i threw out something". It's really hard to cope.

    Aisling Raye
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Stayed in a severely abusive relationship for nearly 10 years bc of this.

    Satya Bain
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, yes! I will take all OT offered still, just to make sure I can pay everything. Even then, there is so much that just doesn't get any attention.

    Mazer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m always thinking OK if I can’t make this month where can I get an affordable storage unit what should I give away what should I keep because you got a remember everything you give away like your bed your sofa etc. is going to have to be replaced if you get a new place and you are not gonna have the money to replace it

    Nikki Sevven
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not wealthy, but I've put a nice nest egg aside at this point, and can actually save a bit of money every month. We still eat every single bit of leftover food, save veg and meat scraps to make stock, freeze bread ends until there's enough for stuffing, re-sprout veggies from their roots and seeds, save usable plastic containers as Tupperware, and so on.

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Truly. There’s nothing I wouldn’t do. Anything immoral or depraved you can think of, I can and will do it if it means keeping me away from poverty.

    Jrizzy Jay
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    4 years ago

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    this is actually a good thing and what is supposed to take place to prevent from being poor.

    Bob Knob
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is actually a BAD thing and what leads a lot of poor (usually POC) people to crime.

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    People Who Have Experienced Poverty Share What Most People Don't Understand About Being Poor (34 Answers) Constantly having to move because your job demands it, or because rent got too high. One to two years is how long I’d stay in one house as a child. I never bothered with friends, because I knew I wasn’t going be around them for more than a year or so.

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    Debbie Barnes
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For a child, this is heartbreaking. Can you imagine never knowing when you're moving, where you're going, not seeing the point of making friends... I just wished countries would stop funding inconsequential things and start investing in their people.

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a kid like that, but I liked it a lot. Constantly getting to reinvent yourself and have a new apartment too. It was never sad really, except having to leave friends but kids get over that stuff fast and move on.

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    zovjraar me
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    we moved every 6 months when the apartment lease was up and they wanted to increase rent. i went to 13 different schools k-12. i stopped trying to make friends, too. as an adult, there is no one besides my family that i socialize with.

    Hime
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the part I hated about not having enough money. Moving around is so expensive but staying isn't an option either. I felt like a terrible mother because I moved no less than 13 times in my kid's school/lifetime trying to stay where the rent was affordable. I worked really hard to keep close to his friends but it was so hard to do sometimes. My kid lucked out with wonderful friends and I couldn't be more thankful for those friends. I love them for loving my son as they do and most of them I've never even met!

    Stacy s
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember crying in private when my son begged me not to sell our double wide (and move back in with mother in law). She wasn't bad, but it was so happy when we got our own house. I have a guilt that will never leave me. It was worth it, have a degree and bought my first houze, just in time for him to leave after graduating. I can feel the hurt physically that i couldn't stay in one place for long when he was a kid. It's an awful feeling.

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve had to move every five years, Which is not bad because there was a year that I moved four times in eight months

    C Terry
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I went to 4 different schools in 4th grade (one in a different state.) If my family stayed in one place for a year or two, that was considered long-term for us. It is hard to make friends when you are always the new kid but school was harder when each one had different classes available and were at different places and used different textbooks. I never knew what was going on.

    Randy Klefbeck
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have had to move repeatedly over the last few years because of rent increases that my hourly pay did not mirror.

    Samantha Becker
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad is an alcoholic and couldn't keep a job, so we moved a lot, sometimes in the middle of the night. Until 7th grade (by which point my dad was out and step-dad was in), I'd never been in one school for a whole school year. I was always outgoing, could make friends easily, and got over the losses pretty quickly, but my little brother was more introverted, more sensitive to the pain of constantly losing friends. It was really rough on him and had a lasting effect on his mental health.

    Mewton’s Third Paw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Until I was in my 20s I had never lived anywhere longer than 3 years. It was kinda cool and it’s what shaped me into liking real estate / apartments and condos / moving / building etc. My career paths now basically.

    Zephyr Anthem
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately it's not just a poor people thing... from the age 6 to 18, we moved 10 times. Keeping a job or finding a good job is almost impossible if you don't want to slave away your life...

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    #34

    What is the true meaning of the term “priority”

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    Norah Reilly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whatever will get you through this day.

    Keating_5
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Usually, roof over my head. If I can sleep in a secure place that’s a blessing. I’ve woken up sobbing with realization and relief because I’m actually in a bed and not trapped in a car, or back against the wall in a street alley, or staying up all night constantly on edge at a Waffle House or bar or 24/7 location because I have no place else to go. Being poor and desperate is not an easy life, I wouldn’t wish it on anybody, because it takes too much from you even if you finally escape.

    Nora Chavez
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You never escape. The trauma is already there. The only light at the end of the tunnel is if this country goes belly up at least I know how to survive being poor and on the streets. As I drive down the streets and the freeway I still see a spot and tell myself, "that would be a good place to sleep and hide out, if I end up homeless."

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    Nora Chavez
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Excellent article! How many people who should be reading this will actually do so? I grew up in poverty, evictions, no food, etc. At middle school free breakfast was finally instituted. We were lucky because on some days that may be the only meal we had. Even though you get some college education you're still stuck in administrative jobs because you don't have that college degree. Once you are able to get, now, online, then you're strapped with student loan debt until you die. I just retired, ha!, last year but I still owe $15K on a 20K student loan that I have been paying off since 2004. I've paid back more in interest than the original loan. It's just another way to keep you poor. Unless that degree triples your salary (with a BA , yeah, right) you're not going to get out of debt. I expect to continue working until I die because social security and my 401K cannot support me.

    Freya the Wanderer
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    4 years ago

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