There are some things that men will just ‘never’ understand—that’s how some women feel. And they shared these things in a thread on the r/AskReddit subreddit. User u/Top_Run4841’s question inspired them to open up about the unique issues that women face, from handling sexism at work and having to face stalkers to dealing with periods and more.
Scroll down to read about the most important women’s issues, according to the internet, dear Pandas. Upvote the posts that you think need to be seen by everyone, and let us know in the comments what you personally think that men will never get about women, ever.
Previously, human rights advocate Elizabeth Arif-Fear explained to Bored Panda that the most obvious marker of gender inequality is the gender pay gap that exists in the workplace. According to her, this is “a gross violation of women’s rights.”
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Men will never understand what it feels like to be sexually assaulted, impregnated, and then told they can’t abort the fetus.
I feel like you don’t get to have a problem with abortion if you can’t experience it. Goodness it makes me so livid when I hear a man, talk about protecting the fetus moreso than protecting the woman carrying said fetus
Aye, and those men are mostly offended by the unauthorized sex the woman had. As a man you can f**k away, but as a woman you're suppose to have restraint or you're a whore. And who does a pregnancy effect more if not entirely? They see pregnancy as a well deserved punishment
Having guys assume that smiling, talking, or otherwise showing basic human decency to them means we're flirting.
Even making eye contact, or just existing. We want to go about our daily lives without being hassled or hit upon. As for those men who will come to whinge about not being able to swap numbers with a girl anymore or what's wrong with flirting - there is nothing wrong with it, in context. If I am sat on a train with my headphones in then I DO NOT WANT CONTACT. If I am in a hurry on my way to work, if I am going for a jog, if I am doing the food shopping, etc I DO NOT WANT A STRANGER HITTING ON ME. It's that simple.
What an absolute annoyance having your period is. Everything about it is horrible.
Arif-Fear feels that, in the West, the talents of female employees are definitely recognized. However, there are still obstacles that they face. Obstacles that need to be torn down.
“Discrimination includes women being denied work, in preference for men due to maternity leave allowances. Due to the imbalance between caring for children and housework among male/female partnerships—which is still prevalent across the globe—women are left juggling a high amount of childcare and work which places extra demands on women,” she pointed out.
Laughing, coughing or sneezing - and promptly giving birth to a red jellyfish.
The excitement of pockets in our clothes. Actual, helpful pockets.
Last weekend I wore a pair of my boyfriends old jeans and he was so confused when I was so happy that my phone fit all the way into the pocket.
How young being preyed on by men starts. I was first ogled and cat called by men when I was 9 and was groped when I was 11. At a public library. While playing runescape.
This is not to say this doesn't happen a.t all to boys. It just happens to girls at a far higher rate
1 in 9 girls experience sexual abuse. 1 in 53 boys. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teens
The human rights advocate believes that employers could help solve some of those issues by allowing flexible schedules so that parents can drop their kids off at school in the mornings. But even that, in her opinion, isn’t enough.
“Practical barriers add an extra burden onto women. Beyond childcare, women in leadership is an area that is evolving but there is still a massive glass ceiling. We need more women in leadership positions,” she said.
How the safety of where we go is always there. Like, I would love to go camping alone somewhere… would I? Nope. Leaving a store at night, we have to be on guard. Walking the dog at night or through woods alone? Always on guard.
Men say they feel uncomfortable walking alone at night too, but I think women feel it for different reasons. Men don't want to be mugged or jumped. Women don't want to be sexually assaulted, raped, mugged or jumped.
How much effing free labor we are expected to do for everyone, at home, at work, and everywhere. Planning, preparing and cleaning up from office birthday parties, holiday meals, weddings, funerals, etc. etc. Being the “default parent” who knows the family schedule, the pediatrician’s number, whether we need more peanut butter and eggs. Always running scripts in the back of your mind to make sure you’re not being TOO friendly to your male coworkers/boss/a stranger so you’re not giving anyone the “wrong idea,” but also being friendly enough to not bruise a man’s ego. Being a woman is a full time job that we aren’t paid for and it’s f**king exhausting. InB4 “I’m a dad and I know my kid’s doctor’s number, my wife doesn’t do anything” Good for you, you’re an outlier and get a cookie.
That even though we might be "prettier if we smiled", we literally can't do that even if we want to, because smiling is interpreted by too many men as a sexual invitation. Men are drawn to smiling women like sharks to a bleeding baby seal.
Please, just let me laugh at my comedy podcast in peace, I implore you all.
One extremely frustrating issue that women face is the fact that many of their clothes either don’t have pockets at all or the pockets are non-functional. However, this issue might be a practical one, not a political one.
Sewing and design expert Roxanne explained to Bored Panda during a previous interview that it’s normal to want pockets for their functionality.
"I think women love pockets for the functionality. We don’t always want to carry things in our hands, especially our phones. When I wear a dress with pockets, my hands naturally gravitate toward the pocket. I’m not sure why. It’s just comfortable,” she said.
How your issues are never taken seriously and are always either chalked up to your period or a moral failing.
I first started getting symptoms of Celiac disease when I was fourteen. I was diagnosed at 21. I spent seven years getting told my constellation of horror show symptoms was just my period.
I was diagnosed with autism at 26. I spent my entire life being told I was a s**tty person because I didn't understand socialization like other women. Every faux pas was just viewed as intentional malice on my part, and treated about as harshly as you'd expect.
You know. Little stuff like that.
There is huge amount of research that shows this happens for so many illnesses. Man presents with back pain- MRI & pain relief, woman presents with back pain "have you tried a hot bath?".
More like: Women presents with any symptom: "maybe lose some weight?" like seriously I feel like screaming at them M**********R I LOST 30 POUNDS AND YOU STILL TELL ME THIS S**T. (yes I'm still chubby but not excessively, not anymore at least. I see plenty of people, men and women, bigger than me ffs) at least I finally got diagnosed with chronic pain (Fibromyalgia) last year after having the pain since I was a teenager.. for reference, I just turned 26, so it took them around a decade to figure it out. ugh.
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The amount of times medical things have been attributed to anxiety for me. Breathing issues? Must be anxiety. Nope it was asthma. Excruciating pelvic pain? Must be anxiety. Nope it was a burst ovarian cyst. Other excruciating abdominal pain? Must be anxiety. Nope it was my gallbladder failing. And my favorite was stroke like symptoms and horrible head pain. Got told it was anxiety, psychological issues, or hysteria by three different male doctors. Turns out it was hemiplegic migraines. But the good news is now I do have extreme anxiety about going for any kind of medical treatment.
I didn't realize how systemic this is in the medical field until I got married. My husband will go to the doctor with flu-like symptoms and be given tests and medications. I will go to the same doctor days later with the same symptoms, suspecting that I caught whatever he has. I will be given no tests or medications, told to go home and rest, and oh, by the way... I'll probably feel better if I lose 10 pounds. If I push back on that, they imply that I'm some sort of hypochondriac or drug seeker. (This has happened more than once, and with more than one doctor.)
and if it is actually just your period, you still need treatment. if it interferes with your daily life,then it is a disorder. doctors always treat periods as then exception
Went to Dr many times, referred to a specialist for pain and periods so heavy I would bleed through triple protection in minutes. Specialist couldnt find anything and suggested it was all in my head. Drove myself to an ER less than a month later, pain was so bad but I didnt want to waste more people time. They were able to find " a tumor the size of a small chicken" and I had emergency surgery.
It took 12 years of my daughter's being told it's 'just anxiety' and a stay in a psychiatric hospital to finally be diagnosed with chronic Lymes disease.
can confirm the autism thing, undiagnosed for over 40 years. Terrible experience of people as a result, basically think people are irrational psychopaths bent on torturing me because they just can't stand being told honest truths or given straight answers. When you try explain it to people they are like "nah you can control it" or "nah you just want to be an a*****e". No, you are just pathetic and do these pathetic lying dishonest dances to avoid describing the planet objectively. fml.
I was once told by obgyn that I can't know where my uterus is (after 2 surgeries for endometriosis and adenomyosis and living in chronic pain since I was 12, so for about 2 decades).
I am so fed up with this shitty double standard. During the years of seeking a reason or explanation for my chronic intractable migraine, I was told over and over, "pain doesn't act like that," "she's doing it for attention," "it's all in her head and maybe she should see a psychiatrist." You know, reasonable crap like that, and all from male doctors. It took a female doctor to finally pinpoint the cause of my migraine and recognize that, yes, I was actually in pain. I'd like to think the days of seeing women as delusional or exaggerating when it comes to their medical issues are coming to an end, but I'm truly not that optimistic.
For me, lifelong ADD that wasn’t diagnosed until I was 50. In a family that thought my forgetfulness, being scattered, and constant lateness was a personal choice. Partly because I could read in marathon sessions and got great grades. Which were “easy” for me, so not important. I’m still trying to lose the abysmal self esteem I developed.
I hear you! I'm 42 & wasn't diagnosed or treated for my ADD until well over 30. It's night and day. I was also told it was anxiety (nope) and dismissed multiple times because school was easy for me. Don't let the bastards wear you down because you don't fit their mold. You are great!
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Oh, yeah. I've got a whole bunch of stories about doctors and don't have a whole lot of trust for them anymore.
I'm 54, and have always received excellent care from doctors. That said, I've also never hesitated to get up in a doctor's face, and get LOUD and force the issue to be taken seriously. Only needs to happen once, then that doctor knows you mean business. Exhausting as hell, and quite often there's obvious misogyny, but once you show power and control, you get your way the vast majority of the time. It's just exhausting to HAVE to go nuclear to be heard and understood. Morons.
I'm 34. I have battled with doctors, parents and professionals for over two decades about back pain which now at 34 has gone from minor scoliosis not in need of treatment to irreparable nerve damage in my right hip down to the foot. I have no idea what it's like to not be in pain unless I'm on drugs. I'm unable to have a full time job because I can't be on my feet for long. I can't exercise for long. This could have been helped had ANYONE taken me seriously in the past 20 years!! My life expectancy isn't great right now because the thought that I can't be helped anymore and living in pain the rest of my life is depressing. Because apparently 14 year Olds are too young for back pain.
Oh, and during this year of being 14, I had an accident and broke my arm. I was actually told by a doctor my arm was just bruised, not broken, all but called me an idiot when I tried to tell him differently, spent the whole weekend unable to use my arm at all as it swelled further and further. Monday morning my dad skips work and screams in the doctor's face for not properly treating me. I have a fear of seeing doctors. Though that story makes me want to go see one, the symptoms sound a lot like me right now. I was seeing doctors often for pain and never being believed yet my husband has told me stories of being in the hospital every other week for dumb guy stuff and they always took him seriously as a teenager. Why are guys believed yet women have weight issues, anxiety, period issues or we're just stupid?
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I told a new PCP that I was fatigued and losing weight. Immediate response was you're depressed. With a history of bi polar disorder I said no probably thyroid, that I know what depression felt like, and this wasn't it. Lab results showed serious drop in thyroid function.Conversely when a woman goes in complaining of depression, she is most times given thyroid medication
Exactly, my mother told me all my life i am stupid...i am just hyper Adhd...but my horrible mother have borderline disorder and she is pure evil
The autism thing is particularly hard because it presents differently in girls. For years doctors were taught girls don't get autism at all.. Thank goodness it has changed, but it is still hard to get diagnosed. It wasn't until after my sister was diagnosed, and I also did a couple of professional development sessions (I'm a teacher) specifically on autism and girls that I realised just how common it was and what to look for.
They eff up diagnosis for men, too ... like, laught at you cos they don't believe your chronic pain is real, because it stemmed from a minor surgery that usually goes well ... accuse you of just seeking to get some pills that make you high, while no high is worth even close to the absence of pain that has been there for years........ Yeah, clearly, I grew the gallstones on purpose, so that ten years later, after the pain had a negative impact on each and every aspect of my life, I still just am a shidhead who wanna get high? No, seriously - this is messed up enough for even another dozen genders. Heading towards US-like fraud...
Well ain't you just a piece of work. I hope you find a braincell someday
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A doctor told you that? I doubt it. If a woman told you that, it's because you had flu and acted like you were dying....while she was probably in labor.
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That turning us on needs to happen waaaay before you even get our clothes off.
“I think a lot of women’s clothing lack pockets for one simple reason: women have curves. When there is an opening at a stress point, such as at the hips, the fabric will naturally flare out. This is particularly evident in form-fitting clothing,” Roxanne suggested that the lack of pockets in women’s clothing has barely anything to do with political or social reasons.
“There are several ways to solve the problem: redesign the garment with a looser fit, secure the fabric with a zipper or button closure, relocate the pocket, or, here’s the big one… redesign the pocket shape,” the expert said.
Bras hurt. Sometimes the wire breaks free and attempts to impale the [chest].
I just want to say that this is true, bras can be uncomfortable, especially if they don't fit well, and if the underwire breaks it can be painful. But I like wearing a bra, I like the way it looks, I have well-fitting bras that I don't notice I'm even wearing and don't feel the need to take off as soon as I get home. And when I have mastalgia for a week or two before my period, wearing a bra definitely eases the pain. Just another point of view on bras.
The social expectation to wear makeup all the time. We're literally told that our FACES are socially unacceptable unless coated in intricate and expensive layers of artificial substances. How screwed up is that?
See also: Shaving. I cannot believe we're this far into the 21st century and people still get freaked out by a woman with armpit hair
“Shaping the opening into a slant or curve will allow the opening to wrap around the curve without resulting in bulging, excess fabric. This pocket style does change the original look of the garment, so the designer would ultimately decide if it works with their vision. I recently drafted a curved pocket pattern for a form-fitting dress, demonstrating that it is possible!”
“I don’t think there is any political or social reason for the shortage of pockets. Most designers are trying to appeal to the desires of their target demographic, in this case, usually a slimming silhouette that doesn’t draw attention to areas many of us want to minimize.”
What it's like to live in a society that favours men in most things.
Look at the comments here. As soon as women try to say that they aren't treated the same at school or work etc then men say it's not true. But how would they know? The vast majority have never had to experience inequality because they are a man.
We say we're scared of walking at night but then we get gaslit from men who say that crimes against men are higher. Men are rarely targeted because of their sex, women are targeted because they are a woman all the time. Look at the news for example, hundreds and hundreds of women getting attacked and murdered in the street by men. Ask yourself how often that happens the other way round? Where women stalk men in the street and come behind them and beat them to death? Or pull them into alleyways and sexually assault them?
The vast majority of men haven't had to think about what they're wearing to try and improve their safety, or walk with their keys in their knuckles because you're on alert from a random attack walking to your car. Or how unsafe you feel when you have to get a plumber or electrician to your home and you live alone.
All of these are real issues for women that men deny despite the majority of them never experiencing sex based crimes, and definitely not in the numbers women do.
And of course men's issues are equally important. But if you only bring them up in response to a women bringing up issues about women's rights then you're doing it to deny what she's saying about her own experiences. There's a reason why women protest in the street and have womens marches to advocate for basic human rights. I've never seen a male protest to highlight gender based inequality for men.
I've seen the same glib, smug reaction from my fellow white men when they talk about people of color being shot at traffic stops. Since they never expect to be murdered by cops for the fun of it, they don't think it's real or that it's a problem at all.
Having your opinions taken less seriously because of your voice. I am trans and recently got surgery to feminize my voice. It has been wild seeing the difference in how people react to me online. My game knowledge is doubted, and my competency is always open for debate.
How little I care about a man's opinion on my hair, clothing, or makeup. I am not dressing for you. I do not care if you think red lipstick is too much.
Also just how often guys touch you without permission.
Man: "But I'm SUPERIOR! You should pay attention to what I think, what I want, what I say." Woman: "Get lost." Man: "Hey! I'm being nice here, trying to help you! You can't be anything without me!"
Why we are terrified of y’all as strangers whenever we go out alone. I’ve tried to explain it to some and always get “well all guys aren’t the same” THATS NOT THE POINT.
Like the bad ones have a sign over their heads reading I WILL FOLLOW YOU HOME AND ATTEMPT TO RAPE. You kind of have to assume every male stranger is a potential threat, because from looks alone you can't tell an assailant from a normal guy apart.
The many and subtle ways the world around us tells us we're never beautiful enough.
How exhausting/depressing it is seeing so many sexual overpowerment scenes on TV and Film.
It’s like they are trying to inform us of how vulnerable we are to sexual assault, when we are fully aware and live with that knowledge on a daily basis.
I hate when movies and tv show a woman saying NO and the man kisses her anyway, then she suddenly likes it and kisses him back. In real life this is assault. Don't do it.
How sometimes you can never feel successful in your career because you’ll always be accused of sleeping your way to the top, or being a difficult woman. Never on merit.
This this this this!!!!! I'm a manager (was an engineer) in a male dominated manufacturing business...been there 27 years and still get the questionable background problems pop up now again....I'm a middle aged, perimenopausal mother...I have enough s*** to deal without this demerit!
That “good men” and “bad men” are often impossible to tell apart. We’ve all had the experience of a man we thought we could trust turning out to be terrifying, and we learned from that. So no, we don’t think that all men are predators, but we do know that many of the bad ones are very, very good at appearing to be good ones, and we have no choice but to behave in ways that protect ourselves.
High quality toilet paper is deeply important to women because we use it every single time we pee or poop and extra when we’re on our period.
*meanwhile school bathrooms* edit: men also like good tp
That until you guys come together and force real change to happen, women will continue to perceive all of you as a threat and will act accordingly and you have no right to complain when we do.
That many women live in constant fear of getting pregnant and having to give birth in the future. All the scenes in movies, all the info about death risk of pregnancy and diseases and stuff connected to it.
That many women are scared of picking a wrong partner because we know that we'll most times end up alone with children if anything goes wrong.
Feeling sad and tired for no reason, because my body is starting to produce less serotonin before my period. I get so sad and I can’t do anything to feel happy for like 2-3 days a month.
I suffered with this from age 15 until I was 27. It was so bad that I was given a hysterectomy at 27 years old.
That we really can’t stand unsolicited d**k pics so Please for the love of god stop sending them. They take a conversation from 0 to and “ya lost me” real quick
How exhausting it is to see your gender constantly objectified. Middle aged and older women are practically absent from media.
How your brain gets re-wired by pregnancy. And I don’t just mean the “I’ll kill anyone who tries to hurt my little bologna loaf.” I mean how some foods you loved now taste like c**p. And others you only tolerated taste like heaven. How some smells are now more intense or slightly off from before pregnancy. That you can’t remember how to drive a stick shift (true story, ground the gears for at least a month) but can put together some complicated as s**t storage unit with no instructions and nothing but a pair of pliers and a nail file, while 8 1/2 mos pregnant.That you can spy a poisonous plant from 50 yards away but can’t find the orange behind your water glass. And that if/when you get pregnant again everything will get re/wired in a different way.
Just like men, we can have what are deemed "negative emotions" (fear, anger, etc), that doesn't mean we're being hysterical, dramatic, annoying or whatever else invalidates feelings.
This! When I'm in a bad mood or just plain annoyed by his actions my boyfriend always says "Eat something, you're cranky." and it drives me crazy! I feel like he's not taking me or my emotion seriously and he tends to do this all the time.
My male friends are always like 'everyone should travel solo across Europe at least once in their life'… like no thank you I don’t want to disappear.
When you’re on your period, and stand up and feel the gush.
The universal scare. It might just be sweat or discharge… but it could be blood too. And you’re not able to make a quick getaway to the nearest bathroom to check.
The sensation of menstruation itself Not just the symptoms. It's almost indescribable. Like someone ripping a scab off of your insides or dispensing warm soup from your nethers.
How much of our behavior is influenced by fear that a man will physically harm us. By 18, I stopped smiling at men 25 and up in passing because too many took it as sexual interest. At 23 I stopped jogging near streets or apartment buildings because the cat calls were too aggressive. And at 31 I cut a married, super religious, father figure from my life because he couldn't keep his eyes off of my body and started talking to me like a mistress. Right now no man I've had any sort of relationship with knows where I live and I feel safer than ever before.
I grew up super religious too and others should know. Your daughters are not safe with someone because they hold the title Preacher or Deacon or Sunday school teacher. Protect your children from everyone you do not know very well and by all means tell your daughters and sons they do not have to listen to anyone who says "don't tell anyone". Anyone who says that to you is doing something wrong to you.
Holding my [chest] means nothing s*xual. Sometimes I do it instinctively. It's comfortable and warm.
How terrible it feels to pull a dry tampon out.
Honestly, this is dangerous. Tampons need moisture to expand and work properly so you should never be putting them in when you're not bleeding sufficiently to make them damp enough. You should never use a tampon for spotting. You should never use a tampon in anticipation of bleeding. These are basic 'Don'ts' and companies like Tampax explain things like this on their websites. You should not put yourself in the situation where pulling one out dry happens. If you unsure better to use a pad.
The feeling of taking off your bra after a long day.
How much society influences how we behave — from being polite when men creep on us to working a full-time job and still doing the majority of the work at home.
I work in retail and for fear of being rude or hurting feelings I'm very polite and act interested whenever one of several old ass men, 50 years old or so, who're also regulars, start talking to me about crap I don't care about. Couldn't imagine the hell I'd be in if I had tits.
In corporate culture:
being mentored by men is more difficult without the comraderie that men share. Male leaders see themselves in young men.
women need to assert professional boundaries CONSTANTLY.
the connection between beauty and perceived ability. Ugly fat men are very common in leadership. Ugly fat women, however...
working in compsci is off-putting because many compsci dudes only interact with women in romantic contexts, and find it difficult to treat them as fledged colleagues.
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I would also like to add pelvic organ prolapse. Two weeks after I turned 40 I tried to lift something heavy and 3 organs fell into my pelvis and has really complicated life big time. It is even more common in women who have given birth.
This! My mother blames me for her bladder prolapse, which is true. Lol Many mothers have it, a bladder or womb or both prolapse is also known as the motherly prolapse.
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Pleased to see that there are plenty of men here who fully understand that this was a post about some things women go through and not a post about men. No one, at any stage, said all of these are issues exclusive to women. However, to the guys saying "but men XYZ" or "not all men XYZ" then you've failed to grasp the very simple intent of this article. When women say "I have to be alert walking alone" and you're not an evil dude then WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU. We have some fantastic guys in our lives - we know it's NoT aLL mEn.
I find it hilarious that I have seen more "this comment is hidden"s on this one article than on the last three or four combined. Not surprised.
I wonder how much percentage of them are by our "old friends".
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As a guy I can figure the only reason any men disregard or downplay women's daily struggles and especially dangers, either are a s**t person or have never had a woman in their life that they love and care about. Probably both.
It’s because they are s**T people. “Of course I care about This women’s issue, I have a mother/wife/daughter.” Is close to “Rape is a property crime” mentality in my book. The injustice is STILL against men. Men who use that reasoning are just slightly less s**tty.
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Painfull medical procedures on women WITHOUT anesthesics SHOULD be in this list. Much more important than lacking pockets, bras and makeup.
You seem to think this is a list about what is horrible for women, rather than things men don't understand about women. Yes, the things you list are awful but I think men would be largely very capable of understanding that painful medical procedures without anaesthetic is horrific.
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I'm and wasn't easily scared. Now or as a teen. I still walked home (city life, 20m orso), because I wasn't going to be ruled by fear. Yet I walked home with my keys between my fingers (to explain: like Wolverine, nobody taught me that... Yet apparently many women do this??) So yes, it's embedded. Now I'm torn because ppl say I exaggerate my behaviour... But I honestly feel these ppl don't understand. I'm not mad for them not understanding. But weirdly enough, I can get frustrated that ppl don't believe ME.
The one that gets me is that men seem to think PMS means you're on your period. It's right in the name: Pre-menstrual syndrome
Highly sensitive stomach during periods is awful. It's almost as bad as cramps for me. I have to unfortunately eat bland things, no eggs, no milk, no wine (can have spirits though). :( Also if you go out, you have to watch your drink like a dragon watches their gold. Never assume that a place is safe regardless of it's reputation. Nothing personal, but there's always a bad apple lurking to cause harm.
I would like to add being followed by creepers trying to strike up a conversation in grocery isles on Valentines day. Not charming just creepy.
It's the level of development of society that dictates how inclusive women would feel. As a society gets more and more developed in every sense and not just economically, we find that women have access to more resources, rights and opportunities.
also add periods are normal Some men think periods are horrible, even though it's normal for a female thats not pregnant to have one!
Moved from Europe to Siberia 12 years ago. Still can't get over how much better I am treated as a woman here, than I ever was in Europe. Haven't been catcalled in 12 years. Haven't been approached by guys in the street once. Haven't had comments about my physical appearance and demands to have make up on from any of my male bosses not coworkers. No demands to smile. Nobody tried to put their hand on my knee, despite having a 20+ age difference with me. No assaults. No attempted rapes. Nothing. I love living here. I feel free and happy. Love this country.
Killing off the girlfriend, wife or family as a plot device for a revenge movie. All the time. I have stopped watching them. Also Disney hates families, (except for Mulan & Moana). First thing… kill the mom. All these poor, orphaned main characters. 🥺
Most important thing is not on the list? Above all, women are human. A man once told me, it wasn’t until his wife explained that to him, he realized that women have the same dreams, feelings, anxieties etc as men. And having breasts and a cervix doesn’t mean anymore to us than having elbows. It’s there cause it’s necessary, but it doesn’t define you.
Ok when i first say the title of this post i though it you be like “Men talking about things they cant understand about woman” or smth like that tbh.
There have been posts just like you mentioned, Badageem, posts focused on men's struggles, thoughts, etc., and I might add, those posts got great support from women. But here you are, calling the women on this post "bitter femcels". Go f**k yourself, buddy.
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Tom, just stop. We get what you're trying to say, but the ONLY thing here that very slightly applies to men is inequality, however ALL women face more inequality throughout their entire lives than most men ever will. You clearly do not understand that this article is about things men DO NOT understand about women, and never can.
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the wording could have been better yes but some of this applies to trans women too.
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I would also like to add pelvic organ prolapse. Two weeks after I turned 40 I tried to lift something heavy and 3 organs fell into my pelvis and has really complicated life big time. It is even more common in women who have given birth.
This! My mother blames me for her bladder prolapse, which is true. Lol Many mothers have it, a bladder or womb or both prolapse is also known as the motherly prolapse.
Load More Replies... Pleased to see that there are plenty of men here who fully understand that this was a post about some things women go through and not a post about men. No one, at any stage, said all of these are issues exclusive to women. However, to the guys saying "but men XYZ" or "not all men XYZ" then you've failed to grasp the very simple intent of this article. When women say "I have to be alert walking alone" and you're not an evil dude then WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU. We have some fantastic guys in our lives - we know it's NoT aLL mEn.
I find it hilarious that I have seen more "this comment is hidden"s on this one article than on the last three or four combined. Not surprised.
I wonder how much percentage of them are by our "old friends".
Load More Replies... Self-doubt. Idk, from what I gather from my female friends vs my male friends, always second guessing yourself or thinking something is by default by your own doing, seems to be really a female way of looking at yourself.
As a guy I can figure the only reason any men disregard or downplay women's daily struggles and especially dangers, either are a s**t person or have never had a woman in their life that they love and care about. Probably both.
It’s because they are s**T people. “Of course I care about This women’s issue, I have a mother/wife/daughter.” Is close to “Rape is a property crime” mentality in my book. The injustice is STILL against men. Men who use that reasoning are just slightly less s**tty.
Load More Replies... Painfull medical procedures on women WITHOUT anesthesics SHOULD be in this list. Much more important than lacking pockets, bras and makeup.
You seem to think this is a list about what is horrible for women, rather than things men don't understand about women. Yes, the things you list are awful but I think men would be largely very capable of understanding that painful medical procedures without anaesthetic is horrific.
Load More Replies... I'm and wasn't easily scared. Now or as a teen. I still walked home (city life, 20m orso), because I wasn't going to be ruled by fear. Yet I walked home with my keys between my fingers (to explain: like Wolverine, nobody taught me that... Yet apparently many women do this??) So yes, it's embedded. Now I'm torn because ppl say I exaggerate my behaviour... But I honestly feel these ppl don't understand. I'm not mad for them not understanding. But weirdly enough, I can get frustrated that ppl don't believe ME.
The one that gets me is that men seem to think PMS means you're on your period. It's right in the name: Pre-menstrual syndrome
Highly sensitive stomach during periods is awful. It's almost as bad as cramps for me. I have to unfortunately eat bland things, no eggs, no milk, no wine (can have spirits though). :( Also if you go out, you have to watch your drink like a dragon watches their gold. Never assume that a place is safe regardless of it's reputation. Nothing personal, but there's always a bad apple lurking to cause harm.
I would like to add being followed by creepers trying to strike up a conversation in grocery isles on Valentines day. Not charming just creepy.
It's the level of development of society that dictates how inclusive women would feel. As a society gets more and more developed in every sense and not just economically, we find that women have access to more resources, rights and opportunities.
also add periods are normal Some men think periods are horrible, even though it's normal for a female thats not pregnant to have one!
Moved from Europe to Siberia 12 years ago. Still can't get over how much better I am treated as a woman here, than I ever was in Europe. Haven't been catcalled in 12 years. Haven't been approached by guys in the street once. Haven't had comments about my physical appearance and demands to have make up on from any of my male bosses not coworkers. No demands to smile. Nobody tried to put their hand on my knee, despite having a 20+ age difference with me. No assaults. No attempted rapes. Nothing. I love living here. I feel free and happy. Love this country.
Killing off the girlfriend, wife or family as a plot device for a revenge movie. All the time. I have stopped watching them. Also Disney hates families, (except for Mulan & Moana). First thing… kill the mom. All these poor, orphaned main characters. 🥺
Most important thing is not on the list? Above all, women are human. A man once told me, it wasn’t until his wife explained that to him, he realized that women have the same dreams, feelings, anxieties etc as men. And having breasts and a cervix doesn’t mean anymore to us than having elbows. It’s there cause it’s necessary, but it doesn’t define you.
Ok when i first say the title of this post i though it you be like “Men talking about things they cant understand about woman” or smth like that tbh.
There have been posts just like you mentioned, Badageem, posts focused on men's struggles, thoughts, etc., and I might add, those posts got great support from women. But here you are, calling the women on this post "bitter femcels". Go f**k yourself, buddy.
Load More Replies... Tom, just stop. We get what you're trying to say, but the ONLY thing here that very slightly applies to men is inequality, however ALL women face more inequality throughout their entire lives than most men ever will. You clearly do not understand that this article is about things men DO NOT understand about women, and never can.
Load More Replies... the wording could have been better yes but some of this applies to trans women too.
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