It's a common trope among many guys to claim that they simply don't understand women - whether it is willful ignorance or not is another question, but there seems to be a fashionable yet lazy acceptance that women are a complete mystery so there is no point in trying.
Well, there's no excuse now fellas. Turns out, all we had to do was ask! Women on Twitter have decided to take matters into their own hands with the viral hashtag #WhatMenDontKnowAboutWomen.
While they clearly don't speak for all women, the discussion is incredibly insightful and educational, as posters take turns sharing their experiences and frustrations about the kinds of things that just seem to pass many men by. Have you got your notepad at the ready guys? There are some really important points here (and some funny ones too!).
Scroll down below to check them out for yourself, and let us know your thoughts in the comments.
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... and that doesn't mean "I was nice to you all week. You OWE me." - that does not make us feel secure, respected or loved. We don't OWE you for temporary niceness.
The women who don't dare go out without a ton if makeup on? They don't do it for themselves. They do it because they've been made insecure about how they look.
Do you honestly believe men fail to grasp this? A small minority of men do, butthe vast majority are well aware of this (I'm not wrong here)!
Being reliable and noticing/doing the mundane things, waaaay more sexy than ignoring it all and throwing in the occasional grand gesture.
Ah yes... please... just... listen. That means literally *listen*... then... *comprehend*. Not "I hear words, and I am going to make some assumptions and fill in blanks to what *I* think the problem is and try to solve THAT. 'cuz That's me being awesome" - no... we literally mean "Listen to what *I* am saying. Do not interpret it yourself, then try to fix something that wasn't being said, then get mad because you think we weren't being straight with you... you actually... were not... listening and you don't want to admit it now.
I think this a dangerous thing to say. Some people choose clothes for themselves and not because they want sex. You will only truly know if someone wants sex by asking them. Clue, if they say yes, you're in
I am 100% certain that if you could pan down, that ape is wearing socks.
That sounds more like a criticism of women than men. If you know something, don't pretend you don't, that's manipulative.
Oh great. So 'no' is the opposite of no? STOP SAYING THINGS YOU DON'T MEAN! That is what confuses other people and keeps perpetuating the stereotype of women saying no when they mean yes. What a rotten advice this is.
Why fake it? You get nothing from it and he thinks he is doing great.
I hate posts like these. "things men cannot seem to grasp" - yeah, because all men are the same, right. I only read the first ten posts, but every. Every. Every single decent man will understand every. Every. Every. Single. Point that's being talked about. I know there are a**holes who won't understand, but that's not "all men". You all just seem to know those a**holes - but if that tells us something after all, then it's about you, not about men in general.
These are ridiculous generalisation. They make all men seem like emotionless woman-haters, yet argue that all woman are the same, too. For equality such postings are poison!
Technically, it's great for equality because it manages to be misogynist and misandrist at the same time.
Kaisu - if we men are not allowed to feel frustrated/uncomfortable because of you, we will not allow the same, either. Equality of consequences, not just of opportunities.
if you look closely you'll notice that 99% of the articles on bored panda are just like this: dumb, sweeping generalizations, left-wing spin, outright false information, etc.
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To be fair, these posts talk about "men" not "all men". It can't be like "women aren't allowed to feel frustrated or uncomfortable with men's behaviour because then it's not equality!!"
Thank you A B C. Maybe the post should specify that its targeting misogynistic men, or I dunno... it makes me sad to read a lot of these but I understand that the women writing them must have been the target of the bad behaviors their describing. But women, please know that there are men out there sensitive to your needs, and plenty of male allies out there that also want equal treatment for everyone.
My guess is, that would be femsplaining it to us, lol
Guess we are part of the broad brush stroke used to describe "men". All that this post made me realize is that women don't know how to pick a real man.
I gotta agree here ABC, if we saw a post educating women about men the s would hit the fan. A big part of gender equality is equality, not treating men poorly to make up for the poor treatment of women
Thank you for saying this, you can clearly see that this is a 3rd wave feminist going off on men for no apparent reason other than they are too ignorant not to put men in a box.
lol the triggered third wavers already downvoted my first reply to you within an hour of me posting it. tells you everything about how insane they are right there
Dave you use triggered as an insult. Why?
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Triggered?
yes lauren, triggered. i type facts that shatter their flawed worldview, and they rabidly mash the downvote button until their keyboards break and they develop carpal tunnel. that is called being "triggered"
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I think they probably mean "some men" not all men. I have seen a lot, too many of those who think women are just pretty things made to serve them. And too many of those "I am a nice guy, I deserve you as girlfriend". Of course, there are normal men also, but this is not for them.
So why not WRITE "some men" then? Just writing "men" is generalising, as it is to be understood as "all men". And that is simply not true.
then write it down. If you do not, nothing will be assumed, and consequences will be dished out accordingly. Its on YOU to communicate properly. Not on us to think your words over and over, just to maaaybe know what you might really want/mean/think.
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Instead of listening and attempting any sort of understanding of what women go through in their day, you feel the need to take it on a personal level. It's of course not personal, it'swhat they've experienced as a WOMAN, want to get off their chest into twitter to say "hey I wish men could get this sometimes" if you get it already --great! But if you feel personally attacked by the more oppressed of the two genders putting this out into the universe then maybe there's more to that...I read this with my boyfriend and a number of things he said he understood once he dated me but didn't before. BIG WHOOP
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Litterally 90% of the posts on these comments are men attacking women and downvoting them because "it's not fair," "that's not true, I'm a special unicorn and this doesn't apply to ME!"
I get sad when this kind og post comes up. The “lets remind everyone that men are ignorant and haven’t got a clue” posts. I know women has been treated badly for centuries, but does that mean it’s OK to talk about men as if they are all tools?
I am a woman and I completely agree. I see man bashing all too often and it often gets ignored or unnoticed. There are bad things in both genders, sadly it seems to be forgotten and men get the short straw. I hope one day things will get better for all genders.
That will only happen when we stand up against it, and call people out on it, when we see it. Until there is a (social) consequence to that kind of prejudice/bashing/discrimination, nothing will change. Our sons and grandsons will all be labeled like this, and it’s only getting WORSE.
Rhonda Sisco-Cleveland exactly. I have called people out on their comments and attitudes towards men and unfortunately a lot of people don’t want to hear it. As we progress with women’s rights we are forgetting rights for men in other areas. Like domestic violence, mental health, child custody etc. I even wrote an article on BoredPanda about male victims of abuse and there is absolutely stuff all interest in it yet the day before when a post was made about women, there was a shit load of interest and comments etc.
Me too, I'm a woman and I'm fed up of seeing these kinds of post all over the internet.
I do collect that if a person actually has the full empathy for someone being treated badly for centuries, they would understand that those are just rantings about their daily frustrations, and won't feel the necessity to be mortified if they weren't directed towards them.
Okay, so you are asking to be centered. That’s what this is. It’s not a wrong impulse. It’s a human one. So the next time a female tells she feels left out, left behind or marginalized, remember how it feels not to be centered when you feel you should be included. Then do better at ensuring *everyone* is included by using non-centering language and understanding the differences between centered stories (stories that put one group’s emotions and experiences front and center at the expense of all others). It’s a much bigger issue than you seem to be aware of. How do I know you’re not aware of this? Because you took a post that centers on someone else (women) as an attack on you. That is how centered stories can feel, alright. It’s great that you’ve had this experience - at all and after all your years on earth - because you can use it to (a) not feel attacked and (b) viscerally understand why *other people* feel attacked by narratives and perspectives you are comfortable with.
Men are attacked CONSTANTLY. Idk why you think they are only now getting a wakeup call. I’m almost 50, and I’ve been watching the man bashing for a looooong time. My mother was a man hater and so was my grandmother; this has affected many generations of my family, I’ve seem what it does to the self esteem of the boys/men, and it’s NOT OK.
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No, not all men are tools. But the ones who are make all men look bad.
But would you say the same about women? If I made a similar post about the shortcomings of women, I think there would be an outroar against it. Are we not supposed to be equal?
Makes you wonder if women want honest dialogue with men..or this cosmo esque drivel...really boredpanda you can do better than this..men are not single minded sex machines that victimize wome
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You will lose your virginity someday if you lose the attitude
stop commenting on other people's sex lives, it's creepy and pervy
Gross
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I am.
sorry bud
Women like to show that ignorantly stereotyping the opposite sex isn't just a man thing. Ignorance is a two way street. Progress? I guess?
sounds like mansplaining to me XD
A lot of these are really ridiculous, at what point are women going to be adults and take responsibility for their lives?! It appears like these women have had a negative experience and then blame all men. Can you imagine if a bunch of guys were to tweet about women and tell them how to behave or tweet about what they perceive to be mistakes?! This kind of propaganda is tearing apart society in my opinion.
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I think what I find bizarre about this kind of post is that a number of the points contradict each other. It goes from "we aren't that complicated!" to "the 6th sense is real and women are developing the 7th sense". What does that even mean? I'm a woman and I don't get it. Guess I don't have those extra senses, after all!
It's pretty sad that even women sometimes don't consider women as individuals. A lot of people should learn the difference between speaking for a group and speaking for themselves.
*in 'us and them' camps, I should say. I can't edit my post for some reason!
Yeah, I don't really believe in an 'us and them' camp, I have to say!
thats because the bored panda editor who put this page together was probably literally high on like their 23rd joint. literally no brain cells left just an empty skull
Dave g-learn a new word, triggered is boring. So is snowflake, 3rd wave, alpha and beta etc. You sound like a broken record
lauren sorry you don't like the labels that accurately describe the nutty movement you belong to. unfortunately for you the english language is fine with the way it is and doesn't have any plans of redesigning itself to suit your flawed worldview better. please feel free to post a novel of a comment raging about it and mash the downvote button on my comments until your keyboard explodes
lol they must have gotten triggered so bad they downvoted me for pointing this out
So yeah another bad idiot men smart women post...that does nothing but divide us further
One thing I do not agree is generalisations like these. I mean it's not okay to say all women are the same but it's okay to say all men are the same? Double standards much. I'm a woman and I don't agree with all this new age double standards crap. We're all human, all different, good and bad. Your age, sex, money, religion, ethnicity, looks, etc do not define people as a whole, your actions speak louder than words, and that is what defines you, and not the "label" society boxed you in.
What a weird kind of post. Truly condescending, never knew woman where truth tellers with these weird abilities. Some are fun I guess. Stereotypes non the less.
LoL, this whole topic is just stupid, men know all of this stuff, and even when we treat you like princesses you still end up cheating with the bad boy ex who treated u like crap...
Ross you're speaking out of hurt. Men and women treat each other badly. I'm sorry u had a bad experience, but there are lots of women out there. Most don't want to be treated like princesses, but then I'm sure there are some who do. Best of luck in any case ^-^
@dave g just shut your god damn sexist asshole mouth up every single comment of yours that I’ve seen is sexist as SHIT go to hell bitch btw this is a man spwaking
just an fyi lauren caswell is a troll and is actually a dude in real life. ignore every comment they post. they're a weirdo and a stalker too
Don't want to be treated as princesses. Being treated as a grown competent adult human being would be welcome.
expecting to always have our undivided, exclusive attention is being treated as princess. It does not come freely, nor always. Especially not just because you whaaaant. And that is just one of many points.
I love how by the end of these most women are even disagreeing with the post.
All in all, I just wish that people realized that women are human beings. We are not a monolith who all think and act the same. We are individuals just like men. No two women are the same, just like no two men are the same. We’re HUMANS.
I honestly don't like things like this. All it is good for is stirring up arguments. The simple fact is, everyone is different and everyone has different expectations of one another.
Well... But aren't these just a bunch of clichés by now? I think people should just be real and say and do what they actually think and mean without the "mind games". <3
Both sexes are different and both have their ways and what they want. Don't try to change that because it won't happen. You can only find a medium
Shorter: men stupid, women superior.
Shorter still: people equal.
More sexist crap from Boredpanda Won't be coming here again
For number 15 - speaking only on behalf of the person whose name appears on the top of this comment, I'm finding this one to be way, way off. All exes and current girlfriend wanted me to reiterate their opinion in my voice - and not a single thing else. Learned through painful trial and error
It would be nice to see a reverse of this article instead of a constant stream of trashing men. Promote equality instead of just feminism.
They did it a little while ago https://www.boredpanda.com/guy-secrets-girls-dont-know/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic
To assume all men fall into these categories is angry, sexist craziness. What if I posted, things blacks don't know about whites or things (fill in your favorite group) will never understand. Boredpanda shouldn't post crap like this.
As a girl, I really hated this post. Is abussive and, some images just contradicts others. There are as**holes in both genders, why would you generalize like "Men dont know".
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Of course its abusive. Women in general are often way more abusive than men.
Abusive... hard to know. Certainly men kill their female partners far more than the other way around.
Henry halliday- it is a broadly known fact backed by statistics that women who are murdered are more likely to be killed by their partner than men who are murdered. Not a generalisation, a statement of statistics
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Where you get that info from? Sounds like one of those generalisations we're all taking issue with
Some of these make good points...most of these are horribly stereotypical...many others are just blatant red flags I (as a woman) would warn men to run away from as quickly as possible....Can we all just listen to each other and get along regardless of XX and XY?
If you want to be listened to, you must provide what we want first. Being listened to is not free.
What is it you want Michal? Honestly.
Wtf we have to provide to be listened to? What is wrong with you?! People are people!
Wow that sounds disgusting? Like "give me what I want first and then MAYBE I'll treat you like a human being"
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I don’t think you know how to.
this type of post same bs womans studies I was force fed 20 years ago AS A WOMAN BS.BS. All BS Will not visit here again o include sponsors.
Palm Beach2356 +
If a woman on a date applies lip gloss in your presence...make an attempt to kiss her at the end of date.
I guess they are promoting equality; they’re treating men and women both just as horribly. Kind of like Mussolini’s quote about voting rights where he said that when he said gender equality he meant that no one gets to vote
Bored panda ought to be ashamed of itself for this horrible misandrist and misogynist post. Also, I don’t care about the different items on the list (minus the one about how men and women can be platonic friends) because I want nothing to do with women in a romantic sense (or other men, for that matter).
Or, hear me out, NO ONE SHOULD BE HAVING SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE.
Hurting your partner's feelings by acting like a punk is not personal charisma. For some ppl not for all man.
Haha, I think at this point people just see my name and get triggered because they want to ignore reality. There were posts in here (see #12) where I was SUPPORTING the post, yet I get downvoted all to hell because SJW's only see the world in black and white. I sincerely hope you all take the time to do some soul searching because the downvotes don't anger me, they just make me feel bad for people who get so blinded by ideology that they can't see past someone's name and actually read and process what's being said on an objective basis.
We disagree sometimes full name, but you raise perfectly valid points. I can't see why you were downvoted so I'm gna vote it up lol
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A LOT of insecure men here!
Everyone, just treat others the way you want to be treated. You want to be understood, then try to understand. You want to be appreciated, then appreciate others. You want to be listened to and heard, then listen and hear others. Gender really doesn't matter. Everyone needs to eat, sleep, poop, work, love, and Live. So bam, Golden Rule.
Seems like a lot of stupid over generalizations and a lot of anger in the comments from both sides. Good job BP keep the hits coming.
Men may be afraid that women are laughing at them. Women are afraid men are going to kill them. Most murders are men killing women they are living with. ( married or not)
The problem is getting worse as the numbers are increasing. Not that I agree with everything in this article but certainly men killing women is a significant problem.
Actually most murders are man on man. Men kill each other 6 times as much as they kill women. But yes, if a woman is killed it is very, very likely to be a male partner or ex-partner.
And when will we be expecting a "Things most women fail to grasp" article? As a woman that list would be pretty d@mn long. #1: Not all men are evil
Jonathan Smith posted this link above https://www.boredpanda.com/guy-secrets-girls-dont-know/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic:
Where is the generalization? It says most men. It may be annoying to see lots of repetitive posts like this. They are swarming now because feminism is a trend atm. Women are saying most of those things since forever, but it was all dismissed till now. There still is plenty of sexism everywhere and things shall be repeated again and again till they sink in and all men understand. Just because some men already knows those doesn't mean all men does. Women deal with bullshit daily, men will deal with bullshit too till things change. I don't see much improvement, where is it? Rape, femizide, abuse crime rates still the same, women are still poorly presented in all respected high status circles, wage gap still exists, women still do more work and caring, women are still blamed, shamed, laughed at for being humans, most women and all children still take the father's name, women are still expected to sacrifice a lot more to receive close to nothing. It's like claiming to help at home because you washed the dishes twice this year, but ofc you are entitled a reward for it.
nirity, "most men" is a generalization, you idiot
no lauren, clearly you and your nutty friend nirity did. notice that my comment is the one being downvoted, so obviously i'm not the one who is triggered here. retard
Aw dave, did you get triggered?
Misandrists (er, um "modern day feminists") love these kinds of posts.
I could not agree more.
Awww mine didn't make it
Just another super feminist bored panda post
Why do men are so sensitive about this? Of course men are not the same and neither are women! I disagreed with some of the women but most of these things need to be said over and over again. Also: feminism is not a bad word. It doesn't mean that women hate men etc. Most stay blind to the sexism and abuse we face. Your daughter will be groped, told that she's a slut or a whore and asked to show her breasts and her ass will be slapped by strangers. That's the reality and you need to raise your sons better. Women deserve respect.
this is one of the dumbest posts ive ever read on bored panda, but my expectations were already low after seeing some of the other posts on this site. it seems like this site is pretty much dedicated to posting dumb and false shit
Why on earth are you here then? Some stuff is not great but we can pick and choose what we read. Certainly don't think everything is dumb or false.
Ive read dave g's posts, all about being triggered etc. I think he might be neck deep in the world of incels
Lol Dave j meant your constant posts in this section XD
lol confirmed lauren is the weirdo triggered stalker going through my entire comment history mass-downvoting all my comments and replying to them. what a creepy freak. i guess i'm an "incel" now because I typed something they didn't like online. nevermind the fact that I've been happily in a relationship for a long time and that lauren is probably a basement dwelling virgin who is actually a guy in real life
to laugh at idiotic, uneducated, self-righteous narcissists and egoists who think they're actually smart?
Gotta love it when some men try to mansplain why we women do what we do, and why we think the way we think. Instead of treating as human beings who are allowed to have our own thoughts and feelings.
gotta love when women femsplain things that most men DO know ;)
michal's comment should have over 9000 upvotes. bunzilla should be negative 9000
GOD DAMN FEMINISTS
Another feminist post! Since feminists are also apparent on mens issues, how about the male suicide rate? Go on, feminists, increase your suicide rate, too.
Im a blonde and get treated like a dummy a lot. Truth is, I'm pretty darn smart. I had a guy once tell me " ask your husband" what something meant. I about clocked him. I just fear there's not enough men on Bored panda to read this.
I was being facetious. If you don't know what that means ask your wife.
I think you read into things a little too seriously.
we are here, indeed. And...if you nearly physically assaulted someone (as in, nearly commiting a FELONY) just because few words, you should really consider psychiatric evaluation/care, because you have a serious problem.
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Your vocabulary choices may not be helping your cause. Also, when someone responds to a question with "ask your [spouse]" either they're being incredibly sarcastic, or they are dropping a subtle hint to save you from being embarrassed (at least in my experience).
As a woman I felt like This is interesting but more like some women vs all.... And most of the comments are all over the place too...
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The amount of chauvinistic and prejudiced comments in this post is surreal. Nothing can be said for the benefit of the women who appear thousands of men's defenders, this is just ridiculous.
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LOL the amount of insecure men commenting on all of these posts js hilarious. "Yeah, but can she make me a sandwich hurrr". Wow, good one bro, please take this token of masculinity we women save for special occasions such as this.
Lol....the amount of insecure........ you, commenting on all of these posts just hilarious. As if you know the gender of every anonymous poster here
I've only commented on the thread in general. Below every post in this thread is some dude (names are right there, hardly anonymous) scrambling to explain how stupid said post is. Have a gander at the fragile masculinity below every image in this thread and weep.
just ignore the question i asked and downvote the truth away until it cant hurt you anymore fucking snowflakes
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so Charlotte, to clarify, you're dismissing all the criticism from men on this page solely because they are men, and not taking into consideration the possibility that their criticism might actually have some merit. All of that simply because the posts were made by males and not females. Do I understand this correctly Charlotte
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what about all the insecure women who made the original posts? i think thats a lot more hilarious. especially all the self-appointed "queens of all women" who somehow think they're in some position to speak on the behalf of literally every single woman on earth, most of whom they've never met or interacted with, ever.
I'm bothered by the insecure man who talks of triggered 3rd wavers to be honest.
lauren i am actually quite secure and my girlfriend could attest to that. you're the one who pretends to be a female on the internet and spends literally hours going through a total stranger's comment history, mass downvoting hundreds of their comments and posting creepy stalkerish replies to them. who's insecure you fucking retarded freak?
lmao lauren the triggered psycho stalker went through literally every single comment i posted on this page, mass downvoting it and posting creepy triggered replies to me. lol. i love how they downvote me for asking simple straightforward questions
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I was born in 71, in Europe. Just after the civil rights and may 68. Feminism was just starting. And we were used to nudity in TV, magazines, beach, et. (not porn, just nudity). Even during the 80's, I used to go out, go to parties. It was sex, drugs and rock'n roll. I thought that things would get better, more equal... What the F... went wrong?!
Feminism. Read their works (like miss Dvorkin), closely, and you will see that its not about equality at all, and never was.
I think you got our names muddled there Dave XD omg you are so reactive it's ridiculous ^-^
third wave feminism* i dont really have a problem with the first wave
lol the creepy psycho stalker lauren who is actually a guy in real life downvoted literally every single one of the i dont even know how many dozens of comments i posted on this page. must have taken them hours to dig through them all and downvote each one. they even posted creepy replies to most of them
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I'd comment, but since I'm a guy, I'd be accused of "mansplaining" (and no, I'm not kidding...). mansplaini...e93e9d.jpg
Bill Wright good
Very true...
omg stop mansplaining! you're triggering me dude i need to go find a safe space now
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I would really like more male friends but it's like a lot of guys have this automatic scanner that checks if a woman is a potential partner and if you're not, or you don't want sex or a relationship they instantly lose interest? Do men like being friends with women? We are just people..
Why do you expect us to be interested in you in certain way, if we dont? Being friends with women is basically being their partners, with ALL the work, and nearly ZERO benefit for me, apart from (mostly empty/worthless) words. Why would I do it, if I can choose a friendship with another guy, that will actually be a friend for me, not an emotional faucet to stem?
Expecting benefits from friendship? Words are worthless? What benefits you get from another guy? How do you communicate since words are empty? There are things to gain from each friendship, but they are not supposed to be expected or it's an exploit and you're a jerk. But the special benefits you want from a friendship with a girl, that's a lot more than exploit, jerk is not strong enough, it's outrageous. People don't owe you anything, whatever they do is because free will
Lol i love you nirity, you keep "triggering" dave g its making me laugh
lol lauren the creepy psycho stalker that literally spent hours digging up every comment i posted on this page, downvoting it and posting creepy stalker replies to every single one. lauren the confused basement dwelling psychopath who is actually a guy in real life