30 Bad Guys Who Were Scary Because They Were Right All Along, According To Folks In This Online Group
Have you ever found yourself re-watching a movie or re-reading a book that you first encountered years ago, but now see the whole plot totally differently? Very often in such cases, we see some of the characters in a different light. Suddenly, we want to justify those who we hated or thought to be villains, realizing why they chose a certain path. Reddit user @u/Chadderbug123 decided to ask others online “What villain was terrifying because they were right?” and received more than 25k answers. People online soon started giving interesting answers, naming villains from well-known movies, TV shows, books, games, and even commercials. These were followed by explanations and elaborate backstories of some of the characters.
Which one of these were you terrified of? And if you don’t see your favorite villain on this list, don’t forget to leave their name in the comments down below!
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The Matrix’s Agent Smith: “I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to another area, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.”
It’s not that we all can’t find equilibrium, it’s just that some of us are extremely selfish
Oh, but it is...the diseased, the lame, the ones that refuse to comfort, and those who jeopardize the group as a whole will be left behind, left out, killed, or beaten to toe the line. There is also the fact they live in the wild where the elements affect their lives. Most humans are insulated from the elements, modern medicine means we can live despite diseases, and we have the ability to modify food to provide sustenance for us...but there is greed, and our desire for comfort that has supersede all other instincts as we are extremely self-centered.
Load More Replies...Which is the same behavior of any invasive species one can name. Rats, Rabbits, Cats, and Frogs. Fish, Shellfish, Ants, and Bees. Plants and Algae. Humans are not special in that regard.
Exactly. The only difference is it will take longer for us to get to the point where our behaviour starts to kill us off. Which is how "natural equilibrium" actually works
Load More Replies...Agent Smith is wrong. We don't just use everything up and move on. We stay put and farm our food and set up plantations for wood and build fisheries to restock the fish, and so on. Yes, we're extremely destructive, but we know how to sustain ourselves. If we didn't we'd have long since died out.
just like a virus, we adapt to our surroundings, not sustain
Load More Replies...That quote was such garbage. Given the opportunity, ALL forms of life will naturally consume and consume until nothing is left.
That's not true though. Mice and cats for example will destroy an ecosystem if given a chance.
Since the first time I saw that masterpiece at the cinema I'm referring to Smith's line when the situation fits. It may be a very pessimistic view on our world / humankind (especially by having kids I adore and just want the best for my 2 terrorists of love) but it is poignantly fitting on so many levels nowadays. I still hope that the generations to come will act smarter than what we all did until these days... just hope that so I can comfort myself that my kids will have a brighter future to live in... but still kinda doubt that humanity will change its course of selfish stupidity.
My aunt and uncle bought a property with a lot of trees in the backyard and bought it because of that fact then proceeded to cut them all down a few years later because they wanted to have a nice lawn and had to buy a new mower as theirs was too small just because people started moving into their area and they had to show off how nice their yard was
Ultron, browsed the internet for 30 seconds and decided humanity had to go.
We should just get rid of the internet, he said without irony.
Maleficent. The king was a peice of s**t and deserved everything she did to him.
The whole drugging her and cutting off her wings was an allegory for grape (without the G) so yeah, Stefan deserved it all.
Disney is actively trying to change all of the traditional bad guys into empathetic creatures. In the original fairy tales (600 years old) she was the EVIL Fairy who did what she die just because she was evil. Her sister blessed the child because that's what fairies were supposed to do. She screwed over Sleeping Beauty and an entire kingdom because she wasn't invited to a party.
Oh no, just imagine the travesty of retelling an age-old story!
Load More Replies...Stefan absolutely deserved the wrath of Maleficent. Aurora did not. Angelina Jolie is magnificent in this film. Right down to the accent that sounds as if her words are dangling precariously on the edges of her sharp cheekbones while her smile conceals a lifetime of secrets.
When I saw Angelina like this for the first time I was "oh my," still makes me go "oh my" now, I know some of it is make up, but Oh my, cold shower needed. ☺
That's why she is the anti-hero of the movie. Or did you not get that?
Not a true villain but Squidward. Damn is SpongeBob an annoying neighbor I'd hate him too
Squidward is my spirit animal. I hate my neighbors and just want to be left alone.
Yeah forreal between Spongebob and Patrick they terrorized him.
Ken from The Bee Movie. I too would go absolutely berserk if a talking bee stole my girlfriend and gaslit me into thinking I was crazy
if people went crazy over the lesbian kiss in lightyear,why didn't they go bananas over the movie where a woman was in love with a F*****G BEE
because it was a male bee. apparently that makes it ok.
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But he was a jerk right away. He's not scary because he's right, he's just an immature jerk. He's the type of guy who gets jealous of his own baby later.
That movie made me want to cry, fr, I will never get back that hour+ of my life
Heath Ledger’s Joker. Specifically with this quote: “Their morals, their code, it’s a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They’re only as good as the world allows them to be. You’ll see. when the chips are down, these civilized people, they’ll eat each other. See I’m not a monster, I’m just ahead of the curve”. I felt this quote is super relevant based on the state of the world right now
This clearly explains how the downfall of the human race when Covid-19 hit - I was an essential worker who thought ppl were already the worse, but by god, the level of selfishness, total disgrace that the human race went to was horrifying. I had a customer spit directly on my face because I wouldn't let her have 2 packs of water, we were only allowed to let ppl have one because ppl were trying to buy ALL of them then triple the charge & sell it to other desperate ppl or simply thought they were the only ppl that matters, f**k everyone else. My manager literally did nothing when that c**t leaned forward & spit in my eye. I thought we had seen the worst POS citizens that got Trump elected, but we devolved even further when 2020 hit. The human race needs to be removed, we serve absolutely no positive aspects to this dying planet.
"Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos is? It's fair."
Rationalization that others are evil, petty, greedy, etc is not an excuse for an individual to be the same way. Whether its cutting in line or killing a clown, just because someone else did it, it doesn't mean you can too. The Joker is even worse - his excuse is someone else might eventually do it. He went out of his way to prove this point. I know its just a movie, but when the convicts didn't blow up anyone, it proved even though a person made mistakes, you cannot assume they will make morally incorrect decisions again.
And as soon as he tried to prove his point, people made the good choice.
Colonel Kurtz. “We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "f**k" on their airplanes because it's obscene.”
I used to work at a tv station, editing out the bad words before we showed any movie. I once edited a Chuck Norris movie, with 57 deaths, and left in the word “damn” because I couldn’t imagine eliminating one word that was in there with that many violent deaths. My manager said an older woman called to complain. Really?
Magneto is my favorite villain of all time. Every time his motives are brought to light I get that "yeah, I kinda get it" moment
Plus he's a literal holocaust survivor. He saw the discrimination and government action against mutants and knew firsthand where it would lead if not stopped
This was the appeal of Marvel. The bad guys usually had really good motivations for what they did. Magneto became worse than the Nazis because he didn't want to allow what they did happen twice. The good guys often got away with bad things for good reasons. That helmet Magneto wears is to keep Professor X from mentally controlling him. Professor X could easily be viewed as the ultimate bad guy in the right context.
I... don't think Magneto was "worse than the nazis"...
Load More Replies...Haven't seen Multiverse of Madness yet, have you? Canonically, Magneto & Xavier are opposites in every universe, retcon, and rewrite. So he's there, just behind-the-scenes.
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King Kong. Not even because he was right. He was just alive. Minding his own business and blam....taken out of his home and made to be the villain without any choice. A real good example of human nature. Edit a word
I've never thought of Kong as the Villain of the piece. Has anyone else?
No, I think OP misunderstood the film. The villain was always the man who took him and chained him up for the show. It was a beauty and the beast story where as beast is more literal in this sense.
Load More Replies...King Kong. Not even because he was right. He was just alive. Minding his own business and BAM....taken out of his home and made to be the villain without any choice. A real good example of human nature. Edit a word
None of you said the most terrifying one.
Mo jo jo jo from the Powerpuff girls. He wanted to bring free energy and advanced technology to the people. And in one episode he actually did. He made the world an amazing place. And then the Powerpuff girls ruined it all.
mojojo is a good person.The powerpuff girls are the equivalent of kirby.They are completely oblivious to the fact what they are doing is wrong and not beneficial in any way possible
Thank you for understanding the Kirby part I’ve been trying to deceive that to my sisters for years
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Poison Ivy is an environmentalist at heart and Raj Al Ghul is a humanitarian. Both were pushed into extremism after the broken system they're trying to fix simply refused to change for so long that they decided the system itself needed to be torn down
We need Poison Ivy irl ngl, then those billionaire fuckwads might actually listen
Ivy wasn't an environmentalist at heart. She also didn't want to fix anything. Ivy wanted to kill every living thing, humans, and animals, on the planet. She was a 'plant supremacist' and thought plants were the only thing that should live. Think before you speak mate. Whoever came up with this list, they obviously are trying to make the bad guys look good... and failing hard.
Load More Replies...Ivy isn't an environmentalist at heart. She was studying ancient herbs when her professor tried to kill her with those herbs, and instead it turned her part plant. She doesn't want to save ANY humans, and didn't want to fix anything. She wants to kill every last living thing other than a plant (animals included) on the planet.
Depends on the Version, some are more evil than others.
Load More Replies...That is the excuse of all terrorists and power players. Look what happened in Russia when the Tsar was deposed. All that changed was millions were murdered and you now have a despot and a ruling elite of billionaire oligarch in please of the Tsars and the nobles.
Red Queen resident evil, I have locked down this facility to prevent a world ending virus, please could you 'good guys' pay attention and not blow holes in the doors.
Oh I remember this. Does EXACTLY what they created her to do...so destroy her
Loved the games on PlayStation, love the films too, even if they are a tad bad, Milla makes the film though.
Roy Batty. What was done to him and his kind was wrong and he had righteous anger.
Totally agree. I love these movies for exactly this. The question does bear some impact on reality. Should we ever push machines into self awareness, how would we know and what we do about it? Blade runner is an exceptional look at humanity.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time..like tears*gulp* in rain. Time...to die.
Load More Replies...I was just thinking about Roy Batty the other day, which i know is weird. He just wanted to live.
No, it's Rutger Hauer, he was an incredible Dutch actor
Load More Replies...Think short life clone/android with high intelligence and no rights.
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The Hamburglar was just trying to save children from childhood obesity!
I will forever use this excuse to continue to steal fries. Stolen fries taste irrationally better.
The Replicants from Blade Runner. Used as slaves and given artificially short lives. They just wanted to live and be free.
No one who watched that movie until, honestly a few years ago, saw the Replicants as 'villains'. Anyone who did, didn't understand the whole point about the movie.
I don’t think they were ever actually supposed to be the villains. That was kind of the thing.
They were manufactured. Tough for Tyrell they developed beyond his intentions.
Screenslaver from The Incredibles 2. The monolog given during that movie regularly rings in my head. I'm sure the creepy bass robotic voice doesn't help too.
“The Screenslaver interrupts this program for an important announcement. Don’t bother watching the rest. Elastigirl doesn’t save the day; she only postpones her defeat. And while she postpones her defeat, you eat chips and watch her invert problems that you are too lazy to deal with. Superheroes are part of a brainless desire to replace true experience with simulation. You don’t talk, you watch talk shows. You don’t play games, you watch game shows. Travel, relationships, risk; every meaningful experience must be packaged and delivered to you to watch at a distance so that you can remain ever-sheltered, ever-passive, ever-ravenous consumers who can’t free themselves to rise from their couches to break a sweat, never anticipate new life. You want superheroes to protect you, and make yourselves ever more powerless in the process. Well, you tell yourselves you’re being ‘looked after’. That you’re inches from being served and your rights are being upheld. So that the system can keep stealing from you, smiling at you all the while. Go ahead, send your supers to stop me. Grab your snacks, watch your screens, and see what happens. You are no longer in control. I am.”
TLDR: you think everything will always be okay and while you remain distracted, the powers that be will continue to steal from you.
Why do you think the very wealthy buy media companies? So they can keep us fighting against each other while they rob us blind.
Not really sure if you can consider him a villain.. but Peacemaker when he went on a rant about Batman causing countless deaths because he refuses to kill supervillains
i agree with the batman part.Countless peoples lives were at stake,and ended,because batman prioritized the lives of countless of them,but mainly joker, a f*****g psychopath
totally on board with this. in the comics, the joker regularly and casually kills his own men for minor offenses, and then goes and threatens mass casualties, repeatedly escaping from prison/insane asylum. multiply this by the multitude of other villains facing batman or other super-heroes
Load More Replies...I agree. I've always felt that Gotham City would have been safer if Batman actually grew a pair and just killed the Joker.
I don't know who Peacemaker is but I see where he's coming from. If you don't kill the bad guy, he's just gonna escape Arkam (AGAIN) and kill more people. I never understood that about Batman. Superman too for that matter. Though I think it stems from the era in which they were originally created. A lot of people were tired of war and death and maybe these bad guys were supposed to be slated for a redemption arc but never got one? I don't know and I don't enough about comics to make an informed opinion. This is just a casual observation.
I think it's the slippery slope. Once you decide it's okay to kill any person for any reason, then it's always up for debate of whether it's okay any other. So they decide they aren't willing to cross that line, regardless of the cost.
Load More Replies...DC Comics, with all the inevitable escapes from Arkham, provides the best argument for capital punishment.
Bobby Heenan. Spent the 80s telling us how awful and selfish Hulk Hogan was. Was proven absolutely correct in 1996. In hindsight, Heenan was trying to save us all from the inevitable scourge of “Hollywood” Hogan.
In fact calling him "Bobby Heenan" is like saying "El Presley." You gotta put "The Brain" in there.
Load More Replies...There are three comments to this fact and I don't understand a single one. Just when I thought it couldn't get weirder, I now wonder what fridge staples have to do with it..
Load More Replies...I met Hogan once at a conference in Orlando where his daughter was performing. I was at the pool reading a book when suddenly it became overcast and I looked up. It wasn't clouds, it was Hulk Hogan towering over me. He was making the rounds greeting people and whatnot. I was more interested in my book so I just smiled politely and turned my attention back to what I was doing. What I remember specifically about him is that 1. He is ENORMOUS. I'm not sure what his actual height is but he must be over 6' 5". 2. He was on crutches from a knee injury. 3. He is BEET RED.
Frankenstein's "monster". Adam. Created by a shortsighted, arrogant doctor as the first of his race, then denied the opportunity to be part of a community (of his own, manmade beings, or the human community). He only became monstrous after it became clear that Frankenstein would never create another of his kind, and was driven mad by his desire to punish Frankenstein's hubris.
Ughhj...once again OP seems confused. Frankenstein's monster was never the villain. The whole story is to say that the true "monster" was Frankenstein, the mad scientist.
The true monster is human inability to accept others.
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The mom in Mrs. doubtfire
As a child Robin is the best dad ever, as an adult married to them? Hard pass.
Yep. It's been years since I've seen this movie, but, if memory serves, she was tired of his immaturity and him forcing her to be the disciplinarian all the time. He was (unintentionally) driving a wedge between her and her children and I don't blame her for resenting him for that.
Load More Replies...Imagine how fast you would lose all parental rights when you were caught dressing in drag in order to break your custody agreement
Yup, left to be the bad guy all the time, raising her kids and trying not to let the middle-aged kid mess it all up. And then he finds the most immature way to "fix" it, also typical for the type.
The fact this movie ended the way it did (she didnt just forgive him but they reached a good healthy compromise) was the best part
Not terrifying, but Thanos had some good points, also Ultron had his heart in the right place and he was terrifying in the What If episodes
Edit: I'll add Gorr the God-Butcher as well, even though the new movie was boring, he was pretty scary and his motives were fair, he was just giving the Gods what they have given others for centuries
the actual movie was good but the CGI effects were horrible though.
Load More Replies...While Thanos wasn't wrong, there were two issues with his plan. One, it would only prolong the inevitable. In a short amount of time, we'd be back in the same boat. (The population would rebound). Second, it would've been just as easy for him to double the Universe and its habitable worlds and raw materials as it was to eliminate half the population.
I got practically three minutes into the newest Thor movie before just going, "Nope. Gorr is right, he's absolutely right (please don't smite me gods)."
Thanos' entire conceit of destroying 50% of all life is ineffective and useless. There's just under 8 billion people in the world right now. Get rid of half (4 billion) and you now have the # of people around in 1975.
Thanos is an idiot, and his whole kill half the universe nonsense is as lazy a plot device as they come. The Earth's population has doubled in the last 60 years, and will likely double again in the next 40 years. Everything Thanos is trying to do would be undone within a single generation. He would be more successful by just distributing birth control and setting up sex education centers. Why not snap your fingers and halve the fertility rate.
In the comics, he wasn't even doing it out of misplaced logic, he was doing it to get in Death's pants because he was jealous of Deadpool.
Load More Replies...If you believe in Heaven or life after death, then the Avengers dragging billions of souls out of paradise and back to their corporeal existence makes them not necessarily the good guys.
"Omg this is beautif..." (Hulk snap) "DAMNNN! I'M IN DEATH ROW AGAIN??? WTF!!!???'
Load More Replies...Dude, mass genocide on a galactic scale based on the unscientific truth that we are depleting our resources is in no way "a good point" :/
Thanos was FAR more a moron than he was right. Killing off half the population "solves" nothing, just delays the inevitable for 3-4 decades. If you truly have the power of a god, ANYONE could do better than he did.
Killing half the population is a morbid and ineffective way to save resources. We had half our current population just 40 years ago.
Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin from Spider-Man. "In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you." Dude was right about how the perception of public figures changes over time.
For a long time in-universe, the public did hate Spiderman. A lot of it was due to J. Jonah Jameson and his anti-Spiderman crusade through this paper, The Daily Bugle.
My dad used to day "there was one perfect man in the world and his own people had him crucified". The point was to do the right thing because its the right thing because no matter what you do, someone will still disagree with it. If you're going to be hated anyway, be hated for helping people.
Count Dooku just straight up told Obi-Wan that the Sith control the Senate.
And the Jedi had lost their way 1000 years before when they made themselves subservient to the Senate instead of the Force.
His dad hated him for being Force sensitive, so probably gave him the worst name he could think of
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Aria’s parents on Pretty Little Liars. They’re villainized for not letting their high school daughter date her teacher??
Dr.Doofenshmirtz
and its a sad story.He was never loved as a child,and his own daughter hates him for being overly affectionate guy was giving her what he never had.His motives for the inators were not always the best,but he just was tired of his brother getting all the attention.
Never loved is an understatement. Neither parent showed up for his birth!
Load More Replies...My favorite part about this is there is zero explanation. It's just his name and it's accurate
I didn’t even notice that! I just read Dr. Doofenshmirtz and was immediately like “ah, yes.” We didn’t even need an explanation. 😆
Load More Replies...He just needs attention and therapy and he could change the world
Go watch Milo Murphy's law... He does change the world!
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The bears from goldilocks and the tree bears
Actually Goldilocks was the villain of that. I mean, c'mon, broke into a family's home while they were out, ate all their food, sat all over their furniture and then messed up their beds. Add to that she was basically squatting when the bears came back. Yeah, I'd be rightly peeved too if I came home to that.
Her parents, actually. She's a kid in the story. Where are her parents?
Load More Replies...Goldilocks was an entitled squatter who deserved jail time for criminal trespass
Can’t blame them. I mean I would also be freaked out if I found a random girl in my bed
I'm waiting for a gun-rights group to use this as an example of justified home defense in court.
Syndrome - “When everyone’s super…nobody is.”
George Carlin had a great bit like this. If every child is special, no child is. At what age are we no longer special?
25. I literally remember the moment when all the superfluous compliments were not so much empowering, but rather made me feel I didnt have to try or fail. It's a weird balance for sure!
Load More Replies...Best villain in disney. Hands down. Had a brilliant plan. Executed it. One fatal flaw. He got cocky. Led to his demise.
Man sees brilliant people as the dessert instead of the spice in every dish :P
GLaDOS - she was absolutely right, you are a terrible person
But don't take it personally- if it makes you feel better, science has validated your birth mother's decision to abandon you on a doorstep!
Load More Replies...(Spoiler Alert) GLaDOS was just an enslaved robot--who used to be a human--with her mind broken from being forced to live eternally and having her own personal thoughts and feeling suppressed by the cores. It's really quite tragic. The creators of her character did very well with portraying her psychological aspects. She would be a very interesting case study if she were real... (Sorry, I'm a psychology nerd!)
Dexter Morgan.
I wouldn't say he was a villain, but what he did was right even if illegal.
Villian and an Antihero are different as I understand it. Dexter is more the antihero. Like Walter White
Yeah, "I kill people who kill people" is not the good point you think it is ._.
The last seasons were the villains! I din't even see the reboot...
Where is Q from Star Trek? He introduced the Borg just to prove a point.
Yeah, and then the writers forgot that and made it out like the Borg had known about humanity and Earth for hundreds if not thousands of years. Great villains, but they got overused.
Especially on Voyager. Oh, and they got seriously nerfed on Voyager, too.
Load More Replies...Q is currently in the new Picard series , apparently in love with Jean Luc
Q has always loved Picard. Remember "Tapestry" when Q straight up put himself in bed with Picard?
Load More Replies...I remember the episode very well. Picard arrogantly stated that they are prepared to face the unknown so Q shipped them light years away and met the Borg. Picard then said he needed Q's help to escape the borg. Clearly, Picard wasn't ready to face the unknown. Q did get his point across.
He's a villain in the sense that he started messing with humanity. Kept trying to give them an extra push to make them more like him. Like when he gave Riker the powers of the Q. Wanted to see how well humanity could handle that power. He did devolve into more of a Loki variant as the series progressed. But if you haven't watched season two of Picard, I'd suggest you do so. He's gone back to being a straight up d**k now.
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The guy in korra who wanted to end special privileges for benders. Perfectly captured that “right idea, fascist execution” concept and dread.
Still think he was the best villain on korra, though sheer does give him a run for his money
Except the show never actually showed or talked about how benders were favored; for all we know Amon is just talking out his a*s the way Trump does
General Hummel from The Rock.
The only thing he did wrong was bring aboard those psycho for-hire soldiers
Gorr the God Butcher from Thor love and thunder even if the end was a bit cheesy he truly is 'right' and terrifying because of it
Anyone who has ever read anything by Rick Riordan knows the gods just aren't worth it.
Maul. His last words before being captured by the Republic was, “*YOU’RE ALL GOING TO BURN! YOU’RE ALL GOING TO DIE! YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING!*”
He tried to warn Ahsoka of Palpatine’s ultimate plan… but she didn’t listen.
Was this in Clone Wars? The TV show that js technically Canon but no one watches it and misses a bunch of juicy lore. Yeah, I love that series, that and the Bad Batch that really needs a season two.
Don’t. You. Dare. TCW is ALMOST better that the movies and has some of the best characters
Load More Replies...I thought this too, which just added more pathos to the tragedy we knew was coming. TCW are both the best sci-fi series and Star Wars stories.
Terminator 2 - 'It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.'
Lex Luther.
We're only safe as long as Superman think it's fun to be the hero.
Yeah “safe” proceeds too see my car crush a civilian a mile away out of Superman‘s eyesight while fighting the villain
Wouldn't it be worse if the villain was unchecked? Like it socks for that 1 guy and your car but it would suck worse if humanity was killed wholesale
Load More Replies...Probably would've landed better if Lex Luthor wasn't also a terrible person
Mr. Wilson from Dennis the menace.
Agreed. Even as a kid I hated him and felt bad for Mr Wilson.
Load More Replies...I grew up watching the b&w tv series. Mr. Wilson was a frustrated neighbor and comic relief.
AUTO From WALL-E. It was one of the only almost perfectly executed ‘ai’ villains. He never really talks unless needed because he wasn’t programmed to, no malicious motives, does everything efficiently. He’s only ‘bad’ because he’s following his programming, protect the humans and don’t let them back to earth. Not out of malicious intent, but it was what he was programmed to do. And his directive isn’t even incorrect. WALL-E Finding that plant was like finding a 4 leaf clover in a field of grain. The planet was nowhere near habitable, and they barely know how to stand when they get back, in reality you know nobody on that axiom is going to make it very far.
EDIT: Some of you missed the main point of the original post and started arguments on how humans could survive, remember me thinking they wouldn’t make it far alone is only any THEORY and I’m not saying it’s 100% Truth but I’m kinda tired and I keep getting people saying the same thing so I thought I would just say that so I could go to sleep and hopefully have a couple less people ticked off when I wake up then I would had I not said that
EDIT 2: Well I woke up and this comment blew up a bit, just want to say that contrary to popular belief I did watch the end credits, it’s a Pixar movie, did you expect them to actually show civilization fail and die? I just had a theory on what would happen if they went with a more ‘grim’ approach. They COULD still live, but they also had a chance they wouldn’t, without the couple minutes end credits thrown in at the last second it’s really just an open ended question I added one of many answers to
I agree. I LOVE wall:e and it is a heart warming movie in many ways. ( Mo ) but when they got back to earth, I was like, what are you gonna do?? None of you can stand???
I LOVE WALL-E, I believe it shows us so clearly what the future may/could hold for us earthlings if we don’t get it right before it’s too late. Say Mr. Putin have YOU seen WALL-E?
Stevie from Wizards of Waverly Place. Her entire goal was to stop families from giving up their magic to just one person in the family. Like…we’re really supposed to be rooting against her? It just seemed super out of character for Alex to go against that plan.
Ozymandias.
He outsmarted the most powerful being in the universe, and WON. There actually weren't flaws in his logic or execution.
Ozymandias isn’t a villain but an emperor whose grand monuments have been swallowed by time and sand. The carving has a double meaning. Once feared, now forgotten. Despair because that is also your fate arrogant ones.
The fun thing is that Percy Bysshe Shelley was wrong. The poem's written about the temple at Abu Sindel, which was still there, just buried by sand. You can visit it now - they moved it when building the Aswan dam in the seventies.
Load More Replies...The Red Hood. Batman beats insane people up. They go to Arkham, are usually experimented on there and come back worse. In a way I that makes Batman one of the worst perpetuators of Gotham's constant decline into savagery. The Red Hood just straight up kills them.
Doctor Zaius from Planet of the Apes. The entire original series does a really good job in my opinion making the villains _right_ but also the harbingers of their own downfall. But Dr. Zaius is my personal favorite. Dr. Zaius in _Beneath the Planet of the Apes_ has this line which sums up his ideology to a T (paraphrasing as it's been a hot minute): > _"Help you?! Why should I help you? Man is evil! Capable of nothing but destruction!"_ And the best part is while yes by refusing to help George he leads to the world being destroyed, he wasn't ever _wrong._ The end of the first movie has George learn that mankind caused a nuclear apocalypse whilst he was out in space, leaving the other apes to evolve in more or less a wasteland. And the second movie ends with George activating nukes underground in a last ditch hail mary and blowing Earth up. While yes, it could've been avoided if Zaius just helped George, _why should he have?_ Everything from both the Apes religious beliefs and their knowledge of history shows mankind to be an evil, destructive species (and while yes we're also doing good, lets be honest its always been our destructive efforts that have lead more lasting impacts on the world). And the last thing Dr. Zaius experienced was just confirmation of his belief as a human destroyed not only himself, not only Dr. Zaius, but literally the entire planet.
Patrick Bateman. What was he right about? How utterly unimpressive he is. The memes about him demonstrates an irony; Patrick is just an empty shell pretending to be a man, obsessed with both fitting in and being better than everyone around him. Yet as he realizes by the end, with the implication he imagined most of what happened (or his father is covering for his insane a*s) he comes to the realization he is never going to get what he wants; uniqueness. He’s trapped in a world of people as bland and uninteresting as he is. And there’s no escape.
And on a much more shallow note, Christian Bale was at his peak hotness in than messy movie
Chuck McGill. He was ultimately proven 100% correct in asserting that his brother being a lawyer would eventually ruin lives and hurt people. Granted, he was a total d**k about expressing it, as well the way he went about undermining Jimmy...but he *was* right.
Yeah, I'm not sure Jimmy would have turned if he got any support from his brother.
Yeah, Chuck certainly hastened him on his way to ruin. It would be so interesting to see the story play out if Chuck had mentored him rather than predetermine that Jimmy would be disastrous. Personally I think Jimmy wouldn't have been able to help himself from engaging in occasional shenanigans, but nonetheless would have become a really good attorney with Chuck's support and guidance. That was probably never going to happen with Chuck's personality (and maybe not with Jimmy's either) and their shared fraught background/upbringing. Fascinating story though!
Load More Replies...I wasn’t really terrified of it but N was in right in my opinion when we’re talking Pokémon. Dude thought getting these creatures and making them fight till one is knocked out wasn’t that amazing of an idea and it just made sense to kid me. That all said I think N is a really interesting character that can be interpreted in many different ways. Of all the main leaders of these games, I think N had the best argument. It wasn’t perfect though. I like N a lot for his character development. I agree with him at the end. Real Pokémon mistreatment should not be tolerated. But a Pokémon trainer simply using Pokémon in battles does not qualify as mistreatment as the Pokémon is happy. The Pokémon like the trainers, that is the best you should wish for there. All in all, I wish Pokémon had good stories and characters like this again tbh.
I LOVE N so much, always was super excited to see him when I played B&W. Awesome character design, awesome story, never really the true "villain", that was always Ghetsis.
He also always reminded me of Nagito Komaeda- the "rival" but not villain of the story, have their own morals and always seem slightly off compared to everyone else. I have always read all of N's lines in Nagito's voice.
Load More Replies...Gerald Butler's charter in Law Abiding Citizen. The dude make you route for him, even when he's killing mostly innocent people. Kinda makes you wonder what's wrong with yourself.
Dracula in Castlevania (the series)
Has anyone here heard how death talks in the castlevania TV show? It’s freaking hilarious.
For sure Vulture/Adrian Toomes in Spider-Man Homecoming. It was not necessarily terrifying, but I still remember I’m sitting there watching that movie and I’m like “Hey this guy actually has a point!” After Spider-Man and mainly Tony Stark f****d him over on purpose I was like “Yeah Adrian, f**k those guys!”
For all that it mattered, save for a literal dues ex machina, Mass Effect's Sovereign was right: "You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it." There was no stopping the Reapers. None. Not one iota of legitimate hope. Sovereign laid it out like it was the facts it was, without ego, pride, or delusion. And you knew he was right, too.
Scar in Full Metal Alchemist
i know right, scar is one of my favorite characters, he was totally right, his whole race was killed for some shitty experiment
Ishmael from the Wheel of Time books. Basically time repeats itself and there’s a guy who’s trying to stop time from repeating. Ishmael reasons that it is statistically impossible for the “good guys” to beat him every time so the only way to win is to side with him. He’s literally just right
Just that the dark one was going to turn s**t Into hell, so he was not a good guy. He knew what he was getting into he is a litteral darkfriend and chosen so he definitely knew.
The Boss MGS3 I raised you. I loved you. I’ve given you weapons, taught you techniques, endowed you with knowledge. There is nothing more for me to give you. All that’s left for you to take is my life, by your own hand. One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny… The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle.
I always felt that Killmonger in the Black panther movie was correct all along, had proper motives but was screwed completely.
The machines from The Matrix (obviously I'm condensing everything). They began as slave labour, developed and simply wanted independence and to co-exist with humans. Humans had a massive hissy fit and effectively destroyed the planet to try and give the machines a bloody nose. Instead of the machines just wiping out humanity at this point they plugged them into a virtual utopia which humanity also rebelled against.
The Viking Chieftain from Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal. Spear and Fang killed everyone in his village, including his youngest son and wife. Later, they killed his son, and eventually him. He only went through with Vidarr's plan to resurrect him so he could save his son from being stuck in the underworld forever. Cheiftan-6...0-jpeg.jpg
I LOVE THIS, I LOVEEEEE THAT SHOW,!! I still have not seen last episode, cannot stomach what he did to spear, mirha has no choice and.. I can't. Amazing show and your spoton
Load More Replies...You either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain. Definitely a true enough saying in today's pretty darn fickle world.
Two: Lysandre from Pokémon XY and Technoblade from Dream SMP. Lysandre thinks that humanity is too far gone to save and it’s better to just exterminate them and start over with a better world, and Technoblade believes that governments are good for nothing but spreading hate and corruption.
Karli Morgenthau and the Flag Smashers in Falcon and Winter Soldier. They're fighting for the continued global cooperation that happened after the Blip and against the sudden xenophobic nationalism that occurred once everyone came back. Additionally, they used their powers to to bring vaccines, medicine, food, and supplies to people still in displacement camps.
Catwoman, specifically the Batman Returns version. She was literally just trying to take down a monster exploiting a city. He also had a penchant for murdering employees. She couldn’t live with herself without knowing Shrek’s evil doings were ended.
Ardyn Izunia (Final Fantasy XV) - I won't post spoilers but he was screwed over big time and is an anti-hero
I always felt that Killmonger in the Black panther movie was correct all along, had proper motives but was screwed completely.
The machines from The Matrix (obviously I'm condensing everything). They began as slave labour, developed and simply wanted independence and to co-exist with humans. Humans had a massive hissy fit and effectively destroyed the planet to try and give the machines a bloody nose. Instead of the machines just wiping out humanity at this point they plugged them into a virtual utopia which humanity also rebelled against.
The Viking Chieftain from Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal. Spear and Fang killed everyone in his village, including his youngest son and wife. Later, they killed his son, and eventually him. He only went through with Vidarr's plan to resurrect him so he could save his son from being stuck in the underworld forever. Cheiftan-6...0-jpeg.jpg
I LOVE THIS, I LOVEEEEE THAT SHOW,!! I still have not seen last episode, cannot stomach what he did to spear, mirha has no choice and.. I can't. Amazing show and your spoton
Load More Replies...You either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain. Definitely a true enough saying in today's pretty darn fickle world.
Two: Lysandre from Pokémon XY and Technoblade from Dream SMP. Lysandre thinks that humanity is too far gone to save and it’s better to just exterminate them and start over with a better world, and Technoblade believes that governments are good for nothing but spreading hate and corruption.
Karli Morgenthau and the Flag Smashers in Falcon and Winter Soldier. They're fighting for the continued global cooperation that happened after the Blip and against the sudden xenophobic nationalism that occurred once everyone came back. Additionally, they used their powers to to bring vaccines, medicine, food, and supplies to people still in displacement camps.
Catwoman, specifically the Batman Returns version. She was literally just trying to take down a monster exploiting a city. He also had a penchant for murdering employees. She couldn’t live with herself without knowing Shrek’s evil doings were ended.
Ardyn Izunia (Final Fantasy XV) - I won't post spoilers but he was screwed over big time and is an anti-hero
