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In 10 Years SpaceX Could Do Flights From London To New York In Just 29 Mins, Investors Claim
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In 10 Years SpaceX Could Do Flights From London To New York In Just 29 Mins, Investors Claim

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Futurists have long predicted exciting technological changes that would revolutionize society; from flying cars, robot assistants and all-in-one food pills. But while technology has indeed changed our lives beyond our wildest dreams, it seems mainly to have been concentrated in areas like convenience, communication and online connectivity. Now we can have everything we could possibly desire brought to our doorsteps, whilst we take bunny-ear-filtered selfies and argue about meaningless topics on social media.

Still, there are some people that dream big and give us tantalizing glimpses of genuine technological wonders, things that would really shake things up and make the world a better place. Elon Musk is probably the best known of these people. The South African entrepreneur is the founder and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder and CEO of Tesla, Inc. and was chairman of SolarCity. According to Forbes, he has a net worth of around 21 Billion dollars.

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But while his Tesla and SolarCity projects promise a greener, cleaner and more sustainable future, these companies appear to be bogged down with lawsuits and other issues. SpaceX, however, seems to be going from strength to strength, with a series of successful launches placing it at the forefront of space travel and exploration in the 21st century.

The latest sensationalist headlines around the company focus on the ‘suggestions’ of UBS, a Swiss investment company that believes that long-haul flights will be made obsolete by SpaceX’s 18,000mph Starship rocket, due to make its first manned flight in 2023. Jarrod Castle and Myles Walton, financial analysts with UBS, said: “Although some might view the potential to use space to service the long-haul travel market as science fiction, we think there is a large market.”

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“While space tourism is still at a nascent phase, we think that as technology becomes proven, and the cost falls due to technology and competition, space tourism will become more mainstream.”

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While Starship is envisaged to carry humans to the moon and Mars, these guys from UBS speculated that the biggest potential for the rocket lies in replacing long-haul travel on Earth. By 2030, 20-hour slogs from London to Sydney will instead be a quick blast to the edge of space and back again, slashing the travel time to less than an hour. Somehow they managed to come up with the remarkably precise figure of 29 minutes for the London to New York leg. SpaceX themselves have not made any plans or claims regarding this kind of Earth-based travel.

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Starship is designed to carry only 100 passengers, so these imaginary flights are most likely going to be accessible only for the uber-wealthy, while the rest of us continue with our Netflix marathons while flying economy on a normal plane.

Continuing their wild speculation spree, the financial analysts said that space tourism to Mars and other planets will also become a reality with hotels queuing up to build rooms in space stations.

They also believe that the wider space industry, which is currently worth around $400bn billion today, will be worth $800 billion by 2030. We will believe it when we see it. Now, where did I leave my hoverboard…

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Personally, I’d rather see Mr. Musk continue to invest in his sustainability projects that could actually make a difference to the health of our planet, rather than flying businessmen quickly and easily between Shanghai and New York. But kudos to him for pushing the boundaries of human endeavor and imagination. Perhaps, thanks to him, we will all be able to pack our bags and move to Mars one day, once we have finally trashed our own planet for good.

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Here’s what people had to say about the financial experts’ predictions

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BlackestDawn
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As Rasheed (up there) alluded to, seems no one there has done the calculations on the kinds of G-forces the passengers and crew will be subjected to in these travels. Unless they make a Star Trek level "inertial dampener" then I'm fairly sure those kinds of speeds will be deadly.

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Alexandru Bucur
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not necessarily true. What we're talking here is suborbital space flight- the Starship will leave the atmosphere and the boost phase can be done at a shallow enough angle to keep stresses on the occupants below 3g (that's how the Shuttle did it), then it will enter a coast phase with the engines shut off, and finally, reentry, again at an angle designed to bleed speed quickly with the minimum stresses on the occupants (Starship is designed to enter almost vertical, using perspiration cooling of liquid methane to shed heat). Technically, you can do this for any length flight and Starship has enough Delta-V to enter orbit if it wants. 30 minutes is a bit optimistic (that sounds they based their calculations off an ICBM trajectory, and not something humans would travel on), but It's not that far off - I'd appreciate it would take it about an hour to go halfway around the world, which would mean an hour maximum to anywhere on Earth. That's pretty impressive, methinks.

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Val
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hm, on one hand it's great to see such an evolution. But on the other hand, I feel that the world is getting smaller and smaller and fragile places are getting threatened even more. Exploration and adventure will also disappear since everybody can go anywhere in just a couple of minutes. We will never be able to get away from everybody and everything anymore and enjoy the silence and the wilderness.

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diane a
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Elon Musk himself doesn't have enough money to pay me to get on one of those. Normal flying is bad enough.

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Vlad Horobet
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone with high-sickness, somehow, travelling by plane it's the most enjoying thing I've done. For example I had a nice 2 hours flight over dark cloudy storms, amazing view from all the way up there, towards Milano, where somehow I got dragged on top of the Milano Cathedral by friends and family where I've had one of the worst sensations in my life due to the height (loads of shaking, dizziness, sweating etc). The roof is properly secured and the view it's amazing, but for me that was terrifying while the much higher, much smaller and much crowded flight was my best flight ever. I'd get on the BFR just for the trip, no reason to get anywhere it takes me to.

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David Jeu
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On one hand the guy sell electric cars and say he saves the planet, on the other he sells ultra polluting space rockets for the wealthy. Nice job Elon..

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M O'Connell
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually the BFR engines run on methane and liquid oxygen, which is really quite clean. It's MUCH cleaner than any solid-fuel booster, kerosene, or any of the hypergolic fuels used in the past. Also, there are plans to use liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen to propel future rockets, the only 'pollutant' being water vapor.

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Eunice Probert
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well it's about time. Now where is my silver lame suit and jet pack?

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Up All Night
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wake me up when they invent teleportation. It takes more than 29 mins for me to get to the shopping mall in the same city and I am enraged.

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Tori Hunter
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did anyone else think that the picture of the dude looked like Chris Pratt as Star-Lord? Honestly thought it was for a solid minute and was convinced what his connection was.

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Han Hui Teoh
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

> Somehow they managed to come up with the remarkably precise figure of 29 minutes for the London to New York leg. SpaceX themselves have not made any plans or claims regarding this kind of Earth-based travel. It was part of Elon Musk's BFR presentation back in 2017. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqE-ultsWt0

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DemPugs
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems cool, but I'd probably never really be able to afford it. Those rockets are expensive, and they said it probably would be really bad for pricing.

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KT Trondsen
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't help but wonder about the environmental impact such a mode of travel would create. Is it more or less fuel that a normal plane would use? Would they be able to capture the emissions and recycle it before it polluted our planet? more things to consider here for sure

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Alexandru Bucur
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, I think it would be less than a standard long-haul airliner, because that one has to burn 10 tons of jet fuel (Jet A or Jet A-1, basically kerosene) an hour to stay airborne, so for a long haul flight from London to Sydney (with a stopover, because it can't carry that much fuel), for example, it will burn 210 tons. Unlike a standard airliner, the Starship will use liquid methane, which is way, way cleaner than kerosene and, while the Super Heavy Booster will be able to carry 500 tons of fuel (liquid methane) and 500 tons of oxidiser (liquid oxygen), that's waay overkill for a suborbital hop carrying passengers, especially since it will only use it's engines during the boost phase and booster recovery, the rest of the flight will be ballistic. So yeah, Starship will actually be cleaner than a standard jet, but we don't yet have the figures to calculate just how much cleaner.

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Bad Habits
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5 years ago

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Meanwhile, 150 people killed last week by airplane, a mode of transportation used for over 100 years.. Sure, let's go higher and faster.

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BlackestDawn
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As Rasheed (up there) alluded to, seems no one there has done the calculations on the kinds of G-forces the passengers and crew will be subjected to in these travels. Unless they make a Star Trek level "inertial dampener" then I'm fairly sure those kinds of speeds will be deadly.

totengruft avatar
Alexandru Bucur
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not necessarily true. What we're talking here is suborbital space flight- the Starship will leave the atmosphere and the boost phase can be done at a shallow enough angle to keep stresses on the occupants below 3g (that's how the Shuttle did it), then it will enter a coast phase with the engines shut off, and finally, reentry, again at an angle designed to bleed speed quickly with the minimum stresses on the occupants (Starship is designed to enter almost vertical, using perspiration cooling of liquid methane to shed heat). Technically, you can do this for any length flight and Starship has enough Delta-V to enter orbit if it wants. 30 minutes is a bit optimistic (that sounds they based their calculations off an ICBM trajectory, and not something humans would travel on), but It's not that far off - I'd appreciate it would take it about an hour to go halfway around the world, which would mean an hour maximum to anywhere on Earth. That's pretty impressive, methinks.

Load More Replies...
vdevriese avatar
Val
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hm, on one hand it's great to see such an evolution. But on the other hand, I feel that the world is getting smaller and smaller and fragile places are getting threatened even more. Exploration and adventure will also disappear since everybody can go anywhere in just a couple of minutes. We will never be able to get away from everybody and everything anymore and enjoy the silence and the wilderness.

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diane a
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Elon Musk himself doesn't have enough money to pay me to get on one of those. Normal flying is bad enough.

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Vlad Horobet
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone with high-sickness, somehow, travelling by plane it's the most enjoying thing I've done. For example I had a nice 2 hours flight over dark cloudy storms, amazing view from all the way up there, towards Milano, where somehow I got dragged on top of the Milano Cathedral by friends and family where I've had one of the worst sensations in my life due to the height (loads of shaking, dizziness, sweating etc). The roof is properly secured and the view it's amazing, but for me that was terrifying while the much higher, much smaller and much crowded flight was my best flight ever. I'd get on the BFR just for the trip, no reason to get anywhere it takes me to.

Load More Replies...
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David Jeu
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On one hand the guy sell electric cars and say he saves the planet, on the other he sells ultra polluting space rockets for the wealthy. Nice job Elon..

moconnell avatar
M O'Connell
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually the BFR engines run on methane and liquid oxygen, which is really quite clean. It's MUCH cleaner than any solid-fuel booster, kerosene, or any of the hypergolic fuels used in the past. Also, there are plans to use liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen to propel future rockets, the only 'pollutant' being water vapor.

Load More Replies...
euniceprobert avatar
Eunice Probert
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well it's about time. Now where is my silver lame suit and jet pack?

sendmorerum avatar
Up All Night
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wake me up when they invent teleportation. It takes more than 29 mins for me to get to the shopping mall in the same city and I am enraged.

torihunter avatar
Tori Hunter
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did anyone else think that the picture of the dude looked like Chris Pratt as Star-Lord? Honestly thought it was for a solid minute and was convinced what his connection was.

teohhanhui avatar
Han Hui Teoh
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

> Somehow they managed to come up with the remarkably precise figure of 29 minutes for the London to New York leg. SpaceX themselves have not made any plans or claims regarding this kind of Earth-based travel. It was part of Elon Musk's BFR presentation back in 2017. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqE-ultsWt0

drreeder avatar
DemPugs
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems cool, but I'd probably never really be able to afford it. Those rockets are expensive, and they said it probably would be really bad for pricing.

katie-trondsen avatar
KT Trondsen
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't help but wonder about the environmental impact such a mode of travel would create. Is it more or less fuel that a normal plane would use? Would they be able to capture the emissions and recycle it before it polluted our planet? more things to consider here for sure

totengruft avatar
Alexandru Bucur
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, I think it would be less than a standard long-haul airliner, because that one has to burn 10 tons of jet fuel (Jet A or Jet A-1, basically kerosene) an hour to stay airborne, so for a long haul flight from London to Sydney (with a stopover, because it can't carry that much fuel), for example, it will burn 210 tons. Unlike a standard airliner, the Starship will use liquid methane, which is way, way cleaner than kerosene and, while the Super Heavy Booster will be able to carry 500 tons of fuel (liquid methane) and 500 tons of oxidiser (liquid oxygen), that's waay overkill for a suborbital hop carrying passengers, especially since it will only use it's engines during the boost phase and booster recovery, the rest of the flight will be ballistic. So yeah, Starship will actually be cleaner than a standard jet, but we don't yet have the figures to calculate just how much cleaner.

Load More Replies...
badhabits avatar
Bad Habits
Community Member
5 years ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

Meanwhile, 150 people killed last week by airplane, a mode of transportation used for over 100 years.. Sure, let's go higher and faster.

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