30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group
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As a kid, it was boring. As a teen, it brought nothing into my life. As an adult, it's hard to ignore all the corruption, greed, sexual improprieties and contradiction.
Ultimately, if there was a god, this is the best it can do? I'm not impressed.
I have to agree with your sentiments. I always wonder the same....especially like, why are babies born with diseases and pain? They did nothing to deserve that....why are children being killed daily? They have done nothing wrong.
So many things but the final straw for me was my church asking a homeless man to leave and not come back. He would sit and listen to the sermons never bothered anyone and always sat in the very back. I confronted my youth group leader and she defended the preacher.
When I was 6 years old, the pastor gave a letter to my aunt to give to my mom saying that we were not donating enough money to the church. So we stopped going, and I have never been to church since.
The expectations for women to be subservient to men and have no further aspirations than “wife and mother”.
I worked at a restaurant near a church on Sundays. Rudest bunch of people ever.
It quickly became evident that many people who call themselves religious, only do so to feel morally superior to others around them, and then use that superiority to try to control everything they can.
Which is morally superior, though? Subsuming morals that have been imposed on you by a church, or developing your own morals based on the idea that you should treat others the way you would like to be treated in similar circumstances? The latter actually requires self-reflection and thought, and can be modified as the times change. The former merely requires blind obedience and, apparently, judgment of others.
As a kid, someone explaining to me that my dog that just passed away wouldn't be in heaven. I'd never see him again. Because dogs can't accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. So he was going to hell.
Pretty much done with it after that.
For me, it was a claim that animals have no soul. and I am absolutely sure that they have it, both reason and soul, and more than some people.
There are many more soulless assholes in corporate board rooms than there ever was in any animal shelter.
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I'm going to be petty and vulgar about this one. Here goes: Dogs (and pets in general) are a source of pure love. If there is a wonderful plane of existence we retire to after death, then dogs will surely be there. Anyone who claims differently can kiss my whole ass - right, left and stinky middle.
The night my mother died her dog would not allow me in her bedroom, even though she died in the hospital. He grieved himself to death and died 4 months later. Tell me he didn't have a soul. My own dog, lay in front of the room where my mother stayed in my home and cried for days. He also grieved when my MIL died. They had pure souls.
Ohmygoodness those tender puppers. Your mother must've been a wonderful soul they related to.
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Will Rogers — 'If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.'
If there is such a thing as heaven I think we can all agree that it's filled with the many good pups that have existed
That is a bunch of nonsense and that person is full of crap. Dogs don't have to do anything like that because they are already sinless.
I have heard this also with Christianity. It doesn't work for this reason. People needed redemption and to accept Jesus Christ because they fell from grace. Animals never fell from grace, so there is no need for redemption. That doesn't mean God did not create them, breathe souls into them and love them all the same. IE in bible in the beginning God created all living things.
Exactly. Only humans have “original sin.” Anyone who thinks animals go to hell hasn’t actually read the Bible. On the other hand, it’s reading the bible that made agnosticism much more viable. That thing is a massive knot of contradictions,
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This explanation is so dumb that I don't even know what to say. So, like, all the Animal Kingdom is in Hell because they can't understand the concept of religion???
Yep this is how stupid some religious people are.
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My pastor had this belief. As an avid animal lover, I hounded him for a year until he finally relented. I argued that animals have pure souls as they do not sin, love unconditionally and will sacrifice themselves to protect/save their people. When he changed his mind, he said, " I cannot imagine you being happy without your animals. So, in order for your soul to be at perfect peace and joyfulness, there must be animals in heaven." Years later, I heard him use that same logic to console a little girl who just lost her dog to cancer.
Good for you for teaching your pastor something new, and good for him for being willing to learn.
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well the Catholic church at least takes the opposite view. Pope Paul VI (1963-1978) said “One day, we will see our animals again in the eternity of Christ. Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures.”
all the pictures in the bible of heaven show animals up there... Jesus is coming back in the second coming riding on a horse. I would like to see the horse stables up there where they keep all the beautiful horses. Don't hate God because your own theology is screwed up.
Why does anyone feel a need to say sh*t like this? Jesus didn't die to save dogs from their sins. I'm pretty sure dogs can't sin. No sin, no fall, no savior necessary.
I am a petsitter and was close to this particular family I sat for. When I went to say goodbye to one of their dogs before she passed I had a conversation with the oldest. She told me that her teacher told her dogs do not go to heaven. Not only did the idea upset me (and her as I tried to comfort her), but this teacher was a member of the church I was a member of. I lost respect for him after that.
I've always understood it to be like this; animals don't have souls, but animals are a gift from God to mankind, and an important part of creation. He loves them too, of course they are in Heaven! I cant picture a Heaven without my gigantic, fluffy kitty from childhood. He'd better be there, that's all I can say.
How mean! Animals are the purest. If there is a god and a heaven then animals are the first to get there! In hell? Never! Hell no! But people who tell such things to children go to hell!
Every pet I've ever had, right down to my hamsters are there. Mitzy, Pepper, Morris, Katy, my Little Lucy Loo. How can they say that?! It wouldn't be "the good place" if there weren't animals.
This moment is exactly when I shut down towards the church. I think I was in 7th grade.
That's interesting. I'm Christian and I believe in heaven, but not hell. There were no 'hell fire and brimstone' sermons in my denomination. My view of heaven isn't necessarily the same as other Christians. I believe that anyone, regardless of faith, if they were a good person, they will be accepted in heaven, which is basically just a non-corporeal realm of joy.
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WTF.."good boys" go to hell but their own pedo priests will get absolution and Invitation to heaven?? That causes revenge fantasies in my mind even Tarantino would be scared of
Trust me- the majority of everyday Catholics do not believe pedophiles go to heaven just because they are priests.
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When my dad was a kid, he asked his catholic grandma about Ghandi. Her response: "he was a great man, but he wasn't catholic, so he is in hell". My dad pretty much checked out of Catholicism after that.
not because he isnt catholic but he may be in hell. he slept with young girls.
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I had religious neighbours growing up, and they told me that I was going to hell because my parents were divorced. Even the parents told me this.
wow, that is horrible. That is not only really mean, their statement is not Biblical.
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My daughter lost her brother, my son, when she was 10. He was 6. She went to a "Christian" bible camp one summer and asked one of the leaders if her brother was in heaven because he was only 6 when he died. The woman told my daughter that her brother was in hell b/c he hadn't accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. She cried the rest of the day! What an evil person to say that to a child!
Religion is the face of evil. Believe what you want but don't impose on anyone else. What a cruel thing to say to a little kid. I remember when I was just 7 years old, questioning religion and they even called my parents (they paid tuition to these jerks...I hated it. ). They backed me up 100% and told them I was entitled to believe as I wished and not be indoctrinated. I had awesome parents! Corporal punishment (which the the nuns gave out every single day to someone) was their MO. Hateful, terrible, and I am proud that now 60+ I have never wavered!
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I stopped going to church when the pastor told me my still born twin was in hell for that same reason. I won't accept a god that punishes babies for eternity.
I'm so sorry for your loss. There is no way your babies are in hell, and many denominations agree. Jesus preaches love, especially for children. Their 'baptismal' status or whatever does not affect that.
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If a dog can't accept JC as his saviour, I fail to see how it will go to a contrived place of religious making. I once worked in a Muslim school. I really enjoyed it, the students were awesome and we really got a long. One day the bursar asked me to make him a bacon sandwich. I pointed out it was Ramadan, but he insisted, so I made it for him (yes, I know pork and he was also Muslim, I know). I gave it to him and he told me I would probably be going to Hel for doing that and I pointed out for that to happen, I would have to believe in a god first! He laughed and agreed. Good people, good sense of humour.
It's obvious that animals have souls. You can feel their souls. If anybody doesn't sense the souls of animals then they are just insensitive to their souls or blind to them. In the Bible it says "Let everything that has breath praise the Lord". How can anybody or anything which doesn't have a soul praise the Lord?
Dogs are special angels sent to provide mankind with unconditional love and acceptance. They are of heaven.
the f**k? if there even is heaven, dogs would most definitely go. they are the most wholesome things on this planet (red pandas are a close second, in my opinion). us humans are s**t (well, not all of us, but so many more are shitty than there are painted out to be, regardless of religion/race/orientation). sorry if this was a rant but things like this is why i want to leave catholicism (i was born into a catholic family. have gone to catholic school my whole life. i still have 3 years to go before college. yeah i dont think that being bisexual and not supporting the religion i was born into help me, especially since my parents aren't the most liberal...yeah they're kinda conservative and we're in california. southern california.) s**t that was too much but thats my rant. sorry
Visiting a "christian" service when the youth ministry performed a skit where the bad person who accepted Jesus went to heaven, but the good person hadn't and so OFF to hell with them. ahem,,, CULT,,,
Yeah, that sounds like a cult! Not all Christians even agree about hell. My denomination never preached the whole 'hellfire' thing. I have always believed everyone will be welcomed into heaven, regardless of faith, as long as they have tried to be a good person.
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If there is a heaven, I’m pretty darn sure there will be a lot more pets making the cut than people.
That person really needs to read the book 'Do dogs go to heaven?'! With so many animal lovers who are Christian, how could heaven not have your lost pets?
That one episode on Twilight Zone said it all. If my dog isn't allowed in, I'm not going in.
I believe in the religion that states "Your path to heaven is lined with all the animals you've ever met." Sounds a bit Buddhist but seems a perfect assessment of our "humanity".
If there are no dogs in heaven, then I don't want to go either. Not that I believe in heaven, but still...
I don't really believe in a soul but if such a thing does exist then dogs have got one And I'm with Don bluth on this one, all dogs go to heaven.
No wonder. Those people were so stuck and mistaken. Forgive them. If there is a Heaven, it is highly populated by dogs.
Wow, that's crazy. In the Bible it lists that their will be animals in heaven so I am pretty sure that means your pets too.
I was told by a friend they didn’t go to heaven but went to purgatory well I call BS, going by what christianity is supposed to stand for my pets would be sitting by Gods right hand!!
I would think God gave us pets to love and comfort us..why wouldn't they be in heaven. The bible says the lamb will lie down with the lion (maybe it's not metaphoric) I'd like to think that heaven is full of pets, everybody enjoy slurpy kisses and terrific purrs.
Dogs aren't allowed in heaven?!? That doesn't make sense.... Where do you think they came from?
This is such a stupid claim!! Even Martin Luther himself said, when asked if there are dogs in heaven 'Do you think heaven is a barren place?' And why would a dog or indeed any animal end up in hell? that makes no sense whatsoever. I am an angostic but I truly loathe people who just take whatever sick idea comes into their head and claim it's dogma.
See - this is where I & "religion" have to part. So - the little bush man who's never heard of Jesus, but has lived a good & honorable life, won't go to heaven because he hasn't accepted Christ into his life???? Go f*ck yourself Christianity.
anyone that would think a dog would go to hell, or doesn't have a soul (fine if they don't believe souls exist at all, but not if they think only humans do) is a horrible person. also, the wonkiness of that window and door is bothering me.
All dogs go to heaven, and they all consider their master personal saviours!
F that! All of my pets have had purer hearts than any human (aside from babies - who also haven't 'accepted jesus' yet). So I guess they're all hanging out somewhere together, til I get there.
What a load of garbage…other animals besides homosapians going to hell…lol
yeahh my mom and al of use bleive that animals go to heaven. my old pastor didn't tho.. ^^;
My church says that animals were put on earth for the humans to care about, use as pets and companions, and for food. We are also taught that our pets will be in heaven with us.
'The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the ox; and dust shall be the serpent’s food. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith Jehovah.' Isaiah 65:25 https://my.bible.com/bible/12/ISA.65.25
In islam you see all the animals one last time on the day of judgement, then they are turned to dust. Then poeple are judged to go to heaven or hell or in between
I've seen too many "architecture/design fails" on here so I have to say, about this image... The lower white-outlined window not lining up with the circular window bothers me... 😬 (also OP I'm sorry, that was a truly cruel and sh*tty thing to say to a kid...)
And that door not being centered to the window is upsetting as well.
Humans are made in the image of God, meaning we are the pinnacle of his creation because we can have a personal relationship with God. If humans reject God, then we, the Soul, are destined for Hell. In my opinion, all other life returns to God regardless because they have no Souls but spirit only.
We aren't the image of anything because we weren't created by any 3rd force. I was created by my parents and not some diety.
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Being told it was gods plan after my mother suffered through chemotherapy, and still passed away. I have no interest in a god who’s plan includes cancer
Sayings something like this to someone who lost their mother. This makes me want to punch them in the face.
When I realized the Bible wasn't written by God/Jesus and it was written by man and was written like 200 years after Jesus's death. Like I can't even 100% trust the word of a good friend who heard something from someone else in 2022, let alone some game telephone from 2000 years ago.
Also, rules that would have made perfect sense for the protection of a tribe in the Bronze Age (most of Leviticus) make absolutely no sense in the modern world. We can eat shellfish now, because we have freezers. We can get tattoos and piercings, because we have autoclaves. And so on.
There’s a short period of time where most of the religion started. Everything prior is mythology and everything after is a cult. Hmm, how convenient.
This is one of the biggest problem with traditional religions. They originate in ancient times, brutal, violent and sexist. How is it logical to follow rules that were developed thousands of years ago in a very different society? I dont need bronze and iron age people to tell me how to behave, how to dress, what to eat or whom to love.
Going to a megachurch.
They received over 1 mil in donations every weekend and spent it on elaborate props and videos rather than helping the community in any meaningful way.
I was 6 years old in a Saudi elementary school. There was this one Christian Bosnian kid whose dad was a butcher, he was incredibly kind and often gave me delicious smoked meat sandwiches.
The thought of him going to Hell as a non-Muslim was illogical, and made me question religion for the first time.
When I was 12, I was told you had to believe in Jesus to go to heaven. I asked what about the other people in other countries that never even heard about Jesus. I was told they weren't going to heaven. My God wouldn't keep good people out of heaven just because they didn't know about Jesus. Goodness and kindness get you into heaven, not Jesus or religion in my belief system. I'm a nurse.
The non-answers to all my questions as a kid. "You just have to have faith" is a dumb way to respond to an inquisitive mind.
I started caring about what is actually true.
All the contradictions of every religion melt away when you can simply acknowledge all religions are man-made.
Religious people.
Some of the most vile and bigoted people I have known would call themselves “good Christians” with a straight face. It seems like half the people I went to high school with wound up being ultra right-wing zealots who believe everything they read on Breibart.
My dad had cancer for 10 years and then he passed away when I was 14 years old. I thought I was having a good heart to heart with my small group leader about it.
She asked if my dad was "a man of God" because she wanted to make sure he isn't "burning in Hell"
Who the f**k says that to a grieving child? So completely insensitive. It took me several months to fully realize the weight of that conversation with her before I left religion altogether.
Setting aside the obvious reasons for why this was terrible, what, exactly, was the mf point in asking this? Let's assume for a moment that hell exists. What could be done about anything at that point? What could the kid do? What could the group person do? Nothing.
My mother. She instilled some serious shame into me under the guise of God. Some things she said:
-Not allowed to believe in Santa because that takes credit away from God. Santa was actually a hand of Satan trying to corrupt me
-Not allowed to believe in the Easter Bunny because it was also a hand of Satan trying to corrupt me away from Jesus.
-I wasn't allowed to feel pride in my accomplishments because it's a sin
-I was a d**khead because my dad got me fully vaccinated as a child and that is against God's plan
-Hollywood is operated by Satan so I wasn't allowed to watch movies or shows (especially Disney)
-Harry Potter was an absolute no because witchcraft is an affront to God
-Scientists should not be trusted under any circumstances
-My rare genetic condition was part of God's plan and I'd understand some day
-Not allowed to say "damn" because it's an affront to God
-etc
That combined with her regular, not religious abuse has left me struggling a lot with my religiosity.
Sermons alternated between asking for money, telling us LGBT people were bad, or telling us we were all worthless sinners without God.
Left church every Sunday feeling like s**t. One week, I just decided I'm not going back.
I don't miss it.
I was like 15 and playing an instrument in the “worship band” for the most popular “youth group” in the area (which is a verrry Christian area). At one point the pastor dude was praying and the musicians were behind him waiting to play when he was done. The whole room (200+) had their heads bowed as dude was praying. Then his prayer went into the whole “here’s what you pray if you want to become a Christian right now” yada yada yada.. then at the end he says
“Ok everyone keep your heads bowed, eyes closed. Now if you just prayed that prayer with me I want you to look up - everyone else keep your heads bowed- but if you just now gave your life to Jesus look up at me or raise your hand so I can see you”
I’m behind him, and facing the crowd who have their eyes closed so I decide it’s safe to take a peek. I discreetly look up and notice that exactly ZERO people in the crowd are looking up at him. Every single person still has their head bowed, eyes closed. (Which is fine, I mean maybe they were all already Christians?) However, as I’m looking at nobody responding, Mr Pastor starts saying “ok I see you there”, “oh I see another over there, Amen” “and you back there, praise god”. “Yes I see you over there, amen come find me afterwards”. It was perplexing to see him lie to so many people like that. And this wasn’t some nobody youth pastor, he was like quite legit having written books and being mentioned in national articles and stuff
TLDR; an acclaimed youth pastor tried to make it seem like his prayer had converted several people, when I could clearly see it had not
I always get a chuckle when I see Christian tattoos, since Leviticus strictly forbids them.
The fact that there are multiple but I was taught that only ONE is correct
The fact that if you're not in my religion, you're kinda f**ked in the afterlife. I didn't choose my religion, so what makes me so special?
My parents pulling an exorcist on me. On their own. Screaming at me that I wasn’t their son but that there was a demon inside of me...
And more but that is the main thing tbh that has made me more an ant-theist than just an atheist
Honestly having to go to church as a little kid. Felt like an endurance test every Sunday to just get through it. Like, dude I’m 6 I wanna play with my action figures or be outside or game. I don’t wanna fight the fidgets in the pew listening to adults breathy sing to tired hymns while I just want it to end so I can go be a kid on the weekend. Then as I got older all the obvious reasons you see everywhere, the contradictions, violence, stupidity etc
They did make it really tough on children. Some Churches had fun Sunday School or catechism classes but then you had to sit through Mass afterward. It felt like the worst punishment to sit still and be quiet for so long.
There was never an answer.
I wanted to believe desperately.
I wanted to and I begged God to allow me to be doubtless. I tried and tried and tried to make it work. To make it fit.
I asked questions. I wondered. I pondered. I just got to a point where there were no more answers. No one had an answer that made sense.
Nothing that the next person couldn’t alter or contradict. Nothing that was ‘set’ or ‘fixed.’ It was all up in the air and I just needed more faith.
I tried. I really did. But my mind just won’t allow it anymore.
That's exactly how I feel. I ask a question, get answers but the answers end up giving me more questions. It just goes on and on and a lot of the time the answers don't make sense or just not logical etc.
Being told I was going to rot in hell every time I made a simple mistake
Having to confess my “sins” as a 10 year old.
Didn't you just make up random s**t? That's what I did. The penance was always the same, which made it even more funny.
former catholic, current atheist here. i am fortunate enough to not have had any severely traumatic experiences involving the church. but, i grew up in the church and i used to love to sing the hymns. as i got older i started to realize what the words i was singing meant. i really didn’t like how some of the hymns/songs called us as people “nothing” compared to god. i don’t really agree with devaluing and trivializing ourselves and our problems as part of worship. that is what really did it.
I grew up as a Jehovah Witness. When i was around 16 i had a love interest in a girl from the church that was 15. I was told she could not be my girlfriend because she was spoken for. The male was in his mid to late 20s. Also my sister got pregnant at age 17, before they shunned her, they asked in full graphic details on the details on that night that my now niece was conceived. Sick sick motherfu*kers. I'm getting angry just typing this. The "elders" in that religion are just high ranked pedophiles that do not call authorities for any reason.
Ohhh, the JW's are definitely on my s**t list. Had two knock on my door, and I wanted to be polite, so I allowed them to come in. Offered them tea. We talked about lots of things, as I'd just had my third miscarriage and was looking for answers, comfort... something. And with a smile on their faces, they told me my miscarriages were god's punishment of me for my sins.
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My father ruined it for me. Bastard abused his own family in horrific ways, yet thought he was some sort of saint because he went to church. And the church's members looked up to him as some sort of pillar of community, not realizing how vile he really was. Definitely was one of those "I can do whatever I want and I'll be forgiven for it" sorts who uses religion as an excuse to be a terrible human being.
I realized I was LGBTQIA+, and my parents' religion believes that you need to hide that identity and pretend to be cishet your whole life. that's not something I want, so i started actually thinking about their church and I realized there were many things I didn't agree with. Religion isn't bad necessarily, but it's not for me.
Whatever gets you through the night is how I feel, and I agree with George Carlin: "Religion is like a lift in the shoe, and I say just don't ask me to wear your shoes. And let's not go down and nail lifts onto the natives' feet."
Load More Replies... I was raised by very catholic grandmas and went to a extrenely catholic school. That taught me all i needed to know about religion. Traditional religions are based on terrible times: violent, sexist, where slavery, pedophilia and rape where normal. Their writtings cannot bring good to society because they stop progress. If you read the bibble it is full of those same things; there are plenty of passages promoting sexism, violence against the infidel, against women, rape, slavery... It is horrible. The teachers at my school were all catholic (because they discriminated against anybody else), ad most of them were openly sexist, honophobic, racist, xenophobic... The nuns were there solely for the money. They would charge us a fortune for food and supplies but then we would be served expired food, had roaches in the kitchen and no heating. Its all about hate and profit.
Reading the bible. Actually reading it. Then looking at other religions, realizing that none is better than what I have read. Realizing that one of two things is true. 1) Everything is made up from scratch. 2) There is some truth in it, but it was corrupted so much, that I risk more by following a book than following my best intuition.
Nothing cures Christianity like reading the Bible.
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For me, one of the big reasons I left was all the pressure to be "holy" and "clean" and "modest". It seemed ridiculous that the only way that I would get into the Celestial Kingdom and see my family in the afterlife (Mormon) was by substituting church music for pop and refusing to wear tank tops. It hurt a little, like I was always subliminally being told that I wasn't doing enough. I started to see the contradictions and extreme sexism when I became a teenager and could get on the internet unsupervised and see other points of view. The last straw was after I figured out that I was LGTBQ+ and received a horrible Sunday School lesson on how gay people were unnatural and should go to hell, and that a woman's purpose was to be a mother and wife and that's it. Usually, mormonism isn't that bad, but friendly people aren't enough to keep me wanting to go to boring lessons that I don't really agree with.
my parents are mormons too, and I had a very similar experience to yours. the members of the church aren't all bad people, but I can't be part of something that believes my existence is a sin. thanks for sharing ur story, I love reading about experiences I can relate too, I don't feel so alone :)
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The apartheid state in South Africa. They were not only fascist racists, but also christian fanatics. If you didn't believe, if you didn't want to pray in school, you were SATANIES or KOMMUNISTIES and would at the very least be insulted but quite often beaten up as well. Hence nowadays when someone says they're christian I instantly hear "homophobic racist sexist conservative" as an addendum, and have to monitor them carefully to see how many of those checkboxes they check. Because of PTSD.
Went to confession at 13yo and after I finished with my 'sins' the priest asked me If that was all. I said yes and he asked me if I didn't mind if he ask me some questions to 'refresh my memory'. I said no and he proceeded to ask some question that started innocently and then started getting worst and worst. First about touching myself (witch I answered no), then about doing it in front of others, with other people, etc. I got to the bench and I didn't even pray, I started to think about it why if I answered No to the first question did he continue with that line of questioning. I didn't wanted to go to confession again and sometime after I started questioning everything about religion and so, stop believing.
sounds like you dodged a pedo-bullet there.
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Religion was ruined for me when I was told women were considered second class. I could never grasp that. My mom used to tell me that part was a lie when I was young and to not listen to the priest or nuns if they taught that they just weren't caught up on what god really said bc they were too old to hear it. That kept me ok until I hit my teens. Plus all the fairy tale stuff in the Bible and cults being so dangerous like the FLDS. I finally read up on it and found out most religions were founded by pedophiles and rapists. I mean I can't really think of one that wasn't founded by a pedophilic rapist male which is awfully convenient for them that's why there's such an importance women stay submissive and kids are property they just want to exploit them for their own pleasure not bc they really believe there's a god. They think they're gods.
I went to popular week long camp here. I was told I needed to bring a bible. Thought that was weird. It ended up being a Christian camp. There was a lot of bullying and alienation between the kids, but also sexism amongst the camp counsellors. I made friends with the one girl who was also out-casted in my cabin, as she was not Christian. I wasn't raised more spiritual than religious. My counsellor wanted to speak to me privately and asked if I "accepted God into my life." I felt like I was being pressured to convert to something I wasn't comfortable with.
Went to a basketball sleepaway camp when I was a sophomore. I was pretty disgusted when we had up to 2 hour lectures that talked a LOT about god. Then, a coach went up front talking about how he's decided to let Jesus into his heart. The assistant coach leapt for joy. There I was thinking what the hell have I gotten myself into.🤦🏻♀️
Load More Replies... I come from a family in which most of us believe in God, but we don't attend church. A lot of this has to do with some of the problems that we have had with people in the church. You can be a person of faith without judging others, trying to make money, or acting like you are better than others. I am a Christian, but I am also a supporter of the LGBTQ community and I am very accepting of people from other faiths. No matter what you believe, we are all human and need to love one another.
Sorry I commented a lot! This one just really hit a nerve for me. Religion is something that I tried so hard to believe in just to eventually lose My Faith and have it almost crush me. Religion never let me feel that I was good enough or ever could be good enough no matter what I did. Not every religious person is bad just the Bible thumping zealots I believe. One thing I wish I could get back was the warm fuzzy feeling that somebody was always watching over me and taking care of me from above. That is the only thing that I really miss. I am so sorry that so many of you were hurt and felt unaccepted also.
Join the club. I envy people who can maintain blind faith. I miss that feeling. Just can't do it in the face of overwhelming logic and reason anymore.
Load More Replies... I've never believed, not through all the years of catholic school, just never sat well with me. Some of the worst, meanest people I've ever met were deeply religious. Final nail in the proverbial (or perhaps literal) coffin was that a close friend of mine, who was very religious, went to mass every week etc died before hitting 40 after fighting cancer for the third time. Nah, I don't believe in anything that causes that much pain and suffering to those who deserve it the least. I'll never change my mind, and I'm ok with that. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I'm a decent person who never hurts anyone and always helps when I can - if that isn't enough then I don't want to be in that gang behind those gates
Growing up in a very religious household definately ruined the idea of religion for me. Just the shere amount of expectations since birth to be a good Christian kid forced me to grow up faster than I should have. I didn't have any friends since I was homeschooled, and I was always alone at home since my dad would spend all day in his office doing "religious work." To this day, the only thing my father can talk about with me or my siblings is religion, not even our own lives and interests. I have met some genuinely amazing Christians who love everybody without all the judgement and hate. They are so full of hope and are so kind, and I can tell that they have something I will never understand, and I wish I could have the courage to put my faith in a god and live life in such a content and healthy way. But ever since I moved to the United States, all I see are the big churches and snobby people without any of the same happiness and love that I've seen elsewhere.
I'll be quick, my family said F**k off to religion in the 1920s because of one particular incident: My great-grandfather was told to give away his three children to adoption since he was a single father (great-grandmother died gaving birth to the third child) and it was "unnatural" for a kid to grow up without a mother. He told them to get you know what and raised his three childrens by himself.
Of all the very very good reasons to leave the church, the one that finally did it for me was that it just didn't make sense. I was driving in my car one day, and for no reason at all it just dawned on me. The whole thing just doesn't make any sense. It was a terrifying thought, and didn't have immediate affect, but once I thought it, the end was inevitable. It just doesn't make any sense.
The sex scandal in the church is what woke me up. These old men would stand there and tell loving consenting couples they would go to hell because they were gay and then turn around and rape little boys?
But that wasn't gay because they were on top, classic Roman loophole, they just forgot to get rid of it when Rome fell.
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I feel kinda sad that people had this horrible experinses with religion. I have had it great with religion and it makes me feel whole I hope anyone who had been abused or something like that will be able to forget that.
Sadly, people don't just "forget" abuse, especially if it's coming from someone they should be able to trust implicitly. Abuse leaves a scar.
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I hope people who read this don’t think all religion is bad. A lot of people at my church are so kind and not rude like people think.
No, I do not think that all all religious people are bad. I have met and know some truly kindhearted, tolerant, brave, and empathetic people who are religious. I actually wanted to become a female priest growing up and inspire and provide solace to the LGBTQIA+ community and other marginalized communities. Sadly, it is the bad eggs that can give religion a bad name; they are the ones whom we always hear about in the news. I always thought that religion at it's very core was to teach us to love others, become more accepting, and greet difficult and challenging situations with grace and dignity.
Load More Replies... I stopped being friends with someone because of religion. We'd known each other since school and still hung out after we'd finished college. There was a chick he was dating and she was Christian. She told him that she can't be with him unless he converted. So he did something called an Alpha course, which is basically "How to be a Christian 101". One evening yeeeeeeeeears ago, he invited me round to his place for a few bevvies and a catch up. I have no idea how we got onto the subject but he started prattling on about religion (despite only being a Christian because he wanted to bone some broad) and told me that my mother, who he'd met, was going to hell because she was Muslim. After a few seconds of my brain flatlining, I left and never spoke to him again. C*nt.
Why TF does anyone need a religion or a church? If you believe in a God you don't need religion and man-made prayers! I'm pretty sure that if God wanted people to follow a religion he would have written it himself and there would only be one religion not many unless God had a multiple personality disorder of mass proportions. Also, of all the races/ethnicities on Earth, how does ONLY one get to manure the world and claim that they and only they are God's chosen people?
For me: Cafeteria Catholics (picking & choosing what tenets you follow for your own religion). Buddha not saving my Buddhist mom from dying of cancer (yes, i know that dying is part of a Buddhist's journey. I'd still rather have my mom back). Religious idiots who got in a circle & prayed instead of calling 911 when a softball teammate (and family member of their's) had a heart attack on the mound. He didnt make it. I ended up calling 911 & would have done so more quickly but I sat there for a minute not believing my eyes that they though prayer would save him.
I went to a catholic girls' school here in Ireland. When She was 15 my friend fell pregnant and was told by our principle who was a nun she had to leave the school because "they could not be seen to tolerate a teen pregnancy". A year later we had a priest come to the school and give religion classes. The principle happily embraced his presence despite the fact he was having a full on relationship with a woman who was separated with 3 kids. Catholic priests are supposed to shun all types of relationships like that but that didn't matter to sister Mary. It was also around this time that all the news started breaking out about the pedophile priests and what was happening in Irish schools up and down the country during 40s 50s and 60s and of course in the Magdalen laundries. All of this made me hate my Catholic faith.
I attended a church-affiliated state school for a time, and the pastor/vicar/whatever would give a lecture, sorry sermon every couple of weeks. One time was all about how believing in ghosts was irrational etcetera, and the next time (I kid you not) we were told all about the "Holy Ghost". I was only 9 or 10 at the time but the logical contradiction was obvious.
It is absolutely sick teaching children that they're stained with sin and they're going to be punished forever if they don't obey. So many people screwed up by being taught that they're "damaged" when they're just human.
I’m 35 and a pivotal religious teaching I am still working to overcome is that thoughts themselves aren’t good or bad; they are just thoughts. I essentially shared a brain with a deity for 15+ years. I’m just now learning that everyone has weird thoughts and that doesn’t make someone a bad person. It’s our actions that make us good or bad people.
My family stopped going when, after my father was laid off from his job, the bishop came over to the house one day and demanded to know why we hadn't tithed in the last two Sundays. My dad explained that he didn't have the money and the bishop called all of thirteen of kids to come stand next to him on the porch and listen. Then he proceeded to berate my father for not giving any money and told us all how we should be ashamed of my parents and how heavenly father was ashamed of them. Then he asked all of us if we had any money that we could give. I distinctly remember him saying "Maybe you kids should your pocket money in. Got any pocket money for me?" Skeeved me out and I was like 6. We never went back to that church again. We tried a few more over the years, but the hypocrisy or hateful comments about the size of our family drove us away.
I think all religions are stupid, but I don't care what people believe in as long as they don't try shoving it down my throat or using it as an excuse to crap on other people.
A god who sends cancer to children and lets them suffer and die? Thanks, but no, thanks.
I went to bible study group and confessed my husband was abusive and I wanted help to leave. I was told that I would one day I would have to answer God as to why my marriage didn't work so was I sure I didn't want to stay and keep trying? Then to be told to calm down by a minister when husband was found to have been having an affair with someone at church and I was upset. Last straw was being told I should stop taking medication gp had prescribed for anxiety as only god could heal me. Walked out, never looked back. That medication saved my life, for sure.
I grew up in the Mormon church and one of the things that makes it different from others is that it's run by the congregation. Like the bishop is literally just some random dude from the area with no study, and same for all the other church positions. There's a big corporate part of that church that gives guidelines for what to teach, but other than that everyone has a different answer for everything
My mom was an atheist and my dad is too. When I started school, I asked "Who made God?" and I got shouted at for it. That was when the last bit of religion died for me and I turned into a fun-loving little sh*t who, aged 5, went around trying to make people laugh
I have a question? How come all of the Roman, Greek and Egyptian gods are all mythological but God and other religion's gods aren't?
well yes. As Dawkins says, "We are all atheists in respect of the ancient gods, but some of us just go one god further."
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When I was 13 to 16 it was the period I used to go to church. For me it was quite, peace, I was relaxed, but I started to feel the pressure from others, how fake many of them were. It was sad because I had so many questions and the only answer was "believe, don't ask". I have friends from other religions and they are wonderful. I met also mean church people. Because they go and pray, they feel entitled to judge others. I traveled around the world and I can't believe God exist. People are good and bad. Every religion is made up to control us. I live in a religious country where we have more churches than schools and hospitals together. Some may say that a church can harm, but the people can. So they go to church and leave it hating others for being different (ex. LGBTQ+), but those are better humans than many religious people.
If a religious leader can't easily answer your questionsor at least try...it's a cult..plain and simple
Well not weird at all you guys are fed up religion, jehovas witness mormons and other free churches.. all crazy.But remember there are normal modest christians to, i grew up catholic , i never experienced any of this weird s**t you are descibing
If you create an image of God to suit your selves and serve your conscious you get a god ( little g on purpose). and an imperfect one at that the God I got to know has never let me down I have let him down he asks ONLY TWO THINGS Love God and your neighbour. The thief on the cross gave no tithes no religious works nothing yet Jesus said to him to day you will be with me in paradise. Why you seek the answer for you self.
I have no personal bad experiences with Christianity, just what is general knowledge. My family (my dad mainly) is Christian. We have never gone to church, we are full supporters of the lgbtq+ community and women’s rights. Which is why we’ve never gone to church, hard to find one that isn’t homophobic. I’ve always assumed that I was Christian by default, but I’m now coming to realize that, I really just don’t believe. I’d like to think that there is something up there, maybe there is, but it isn’t what the Bible says. I’m not sure. I heard my parents talking recently about going back to church, trying to find a good one (I don’t want to, I went once on Easter a couple years back, boring as hell) and it’s ok if we don’t believe but to try and steer us in that direction, which is okay I guess. So yeah.
I married a non practicing Catholic, she was a single mom. Soon after she was with my child and after she was born my wife wonted her to be baptized. Now I'm not a religious man but went to see the local priest. I asked about getting my daughter baptized, he told me that I would have to become a Catholic too before he's consider doing it. I said no way, he then threatened that my daughter would burn in hell fire because of me. I told him that no way God or Jesus would do that to an innocent child or person and he was full of sh*t and wasn't a man of any God I'd worship. Never been in a church since. Bustards. 🤬😡😡😡
Ooh my mother, supposedly a good Christian, but who the hells treats their kids like s**t and then tells them to trust god in their lives? Yeah f**k that. I’d rather follow Loki thanks, at least that guy has balls and isn’t afraid to use them
Not one thing, just an amateurish study of history. Since man started worshipping stuff, rocks, trees, the sun, etc right up to the present day religion always involves supporting a priest class that at best is a useless burden and at worst is a hypocritical hate monger. It's the one thing that every religion has in common. Believe whatever you want , you don't need an intermediary.
Every religion being adamant that their fantasy book is the only true book while other are "mythologies". The fact that 99% of believers pick their religion not based on examining all of them and choosing the one that makes most sense, but from being indoctrinated by their environment.
It's crazy how religion can effect people in so many ways. I was lucky to grow up with a very good religious experience mainly led by my dad who is an AMAZING person. Religion has really helped me live a happy life that I feel I'm getting the most out of and the way I have been taught it's been an amazing support for growth in all areas. Lately I have been thinking about how I haven't really made much effort to look into other religions to see if there are any I believe in more so if any of you want to share your beliefs (whatever they are) with me I'd be grateful. I don't expect I'll switch religions but I do want to make my decision knowing the options. Sorry to bother people :)
It's sad. A lot of these religions are good. But the people in them are messed up or using the teachings as justification for there own behavior.
I lost whatever faith I'd had drilled into me (church, Sunday School, Catholic School, etc) by the still tender age of 9. That's the year I remember praying on my knees on the floor of a Jeep in the parking lot of a cheap motel because I knew where this was going. Yeah, those prayers didn't work. Neither did the silent ones I said in my head for years after, just in case. Once I realized I was completely alone, I stopped believing. Very freeing in its own way.
ive grown up catholic, and things like this is why i want to leave catholicism (i was born into a catholic family. have gone to catholic school my whole life. i still have 3 years to go before college. yeah i dont think that being bisexual and not supporting the religion i was born into help me, especially since my parents aren't the most liberal...yeah they're kinda conservative and we're in california. southern california.) also, the church is very much a cult. once you're baptized into it (which i was at birth, not my choice) you cabt leave unless you tell your bishop. so the bishop might berate you. if youre too scared, youre always considered catholic. you cant really leavw the damn church. f**k that. s**t that was too much but thats my rant. sorry
I'm a christian and in my opion you can't hate the whole company for some co-worker's b******t. Its manly if not all People to blame like everything else not God
i don't knwo if I ever Valued religion. but i stopped believing it was worthy of anything around the age of 6 or 7 when i started learning how to recognize that some of the stuff adults were telling me was b******t.
For many many reasons above stated. But I was done with organized religion realizing the money these churches have and how they use it. Not just mega churches. The Vatican sits on a mound of riches, yet closes its churches in Chicago for lack of donations. From the struggling poor. I just finished reading the bible - how can they just this to their congregations! Plus here in the US, the amount of Christians that are so un-Christian like is abysmal. Among a ton of things, won't wear a mask to protect others? I believe in a higher power and after reading the bible I actually love Jesus and HIS teachings (big change from non-believing). But organized religion is just a money and power grab.
Do you love the verse Matt 10:34? Or how about 1 Timothy 2:12 and 1 Corinthians 14:34?
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What does it mean that most (all?) of these posts are about monotheistic religions? Do Buddhists not mess up their kids? Are Jains immune from hypocrisy?
Bad parents mess up their kids. Unfair to blame religion. Most Abrahamic religions are strict about rules. Most Asian/African religions are not dogmatic. Most Indic religions are not focused on god worship, but rather enlightenment to realize you are not a separate entity from God.
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Get an abortion or don't, Be gay, be straight, Be transgender, Believe in God, be an atheist, I am pro-leave people alone, I'm pro-respect people Even if you disagree with them I'm pro-supporting family And friends, I'm pro-mind your own damn business! Is appropriate here
After reading this list I'm so glad I ended up with the Norse gods/Ásatrú. :) pretty much no rules, no hell, no good vs. Bad, the gods ain't that much better than humans in their morality. Oh, and it's ok to call the gods little sh*ts. Lol. But seriously.... as a little kid I believed in the Christian god because I had a tape with the story of Adam and Eve and I could hear the voice of "God" on the tape. But then my granddad died and I became an Atheist. As a teen I got into the spiritual witchy stuff and then, when I studied religion and history at uni, I realized that Ásatrú had always sparked my interest in some very deep way and now that I got to study that faith I realized it was just oh so right for me. :) It's still a bit difficult for me to lay off some Christian practices, though. Like... prayer. I sort of like prayer, but it's not part of Ásatrú. So that is one thing I "struggle" with.
...and I thought being born a woman in a Theravada Buddhist country/culture/society/family has terminally messed ME up hardcore. I mean, it's not a competition or anything, I just thought the missionaries that insidiously twist, bend and demonize our native faiths were just the bad ones, sent away from their churches in punishment. I later learned they CHOSE to go into other people's countries, actively find something to get offended about and act all holier-than-thou. For some reason I never thought about the average Christian though and how they worship. Those poor kids. Wow, just... wow.
When my father spent his first Xmas in Canada he went to go to mass on Christmas Eve and was denied entry because he couldn't donate to the basket. He arrived in Canada about 2 months earlier with less than $20 in his pocket. He has never been to church since.
I grew up going to church, all my life. Then I started exploring gender and sexuality, and came out to my "friends" at church. Who outed me to everyone else in the church. My family stopped going to church after that because I would be shot dirty looks and people would tell me to go to hell, or that God wouldn't accept me if I kept going down this path. That's when I decided that if everything was Gods plan, his plan would include queer individuals. So why would I stay in a church with people who don't seem to understand that? (EDIT: we left the church when I was nearly 14. all of this happened before that)
In total? It's been the ever growing realization that we're all just A Speck. One being among billions. One place among billions. Not even seeable from far enough away, and yet... Still all part of one, contained universe... And the thought that other universes must surely exist, with billions of bodies and beings of their own. To want to know an All Being that could Create all of this wonder is a journey of Self, too. But that's discouraged "in the church". Instead, like formal education, they want to take all the forests and turn them into Pencils.
Mass-Hysteria and delusion, apart from the fact that only a few really read and understood the books...
I read about the lives of saints - just about all of the holy men and women were aristocratic. I then asked how it was easy for them to ostentatiously give away all their wealth etc. And that they could easily dedicate their whole lives to God when they no doubt had oodles of servants to take care of the food etc. Wrong questions apparently.
I tried like hell to find one that wasn't completely illogical and, on its deepest level, hateful.
All I know is I could say Pikachu is God and have the same amount of proof of that as I would any other God. Plus as someone pointed out, what kind of God would allow the things that happen in this world?
This is so sad that religion is generized like this. Most churches are lovely places to be and a lot of people are really happy there. It needs to be clear that this isn’t every church ever.
I grew up in a sort of New Age household. A mixture of sermon on the mount Christianity, a buffet of white suburban American misunderstandings of Buddhism, some weird place called the Church of Astara, and a random smattering of books on karma, past lives and guardian angels. I believed in a constantly changing and evolving version of this, and whatever other New Age garbage books I fell for until I was about 30. I was debating with a born-again Christian coworker (it was polite, we were friends), but then I was thinking intently about it after work. About how contradictory and capricious and just plain weird so much of Christianity is, and then it was like a slap in the face: my beliefs were certainly “nicer,” with no hell or Satan or retribution, but they didn’t make any more sense than his. It was all just magic, and we all just pick the magic we want and discard the rest. I was an atheist by morning.
I miss in the list that religion is one of the main reasons in many conflicts. Over 5.000.000 people died 75 years ago, because they had the wrong religion. Fights in Northern Ireland, because they believe in a different version of the same god. Reasons to defend racism, descriminition of women, lgbt rights, etc... were all found in the bible.
I really just had a hard time believing that Jesus died and then rose again. I just REALLY think that was made up. I’ve read and read all the texts and songs… They are just coping mechanisms to me. I don’t connect well with the idea that millions of people need a savior to justify their belief. I can believe in a god, not believe in a savior and still be a good person. It’s not necessarily something that religion has to justify.
For me it was actually reading the history of Christianity. Not their storybook „the bible“ but how Christianity actually came to be over the centuries. After that that was it for me, plus the fact I started developing my scientific mind and stopped believing in magic. Religion would habe much less follower if they wouldn’t start indoctrinating children at an early age
the scariest scripture in the bible is Rev. 3:16.... "So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. " Sorry, but you liberals and humanists don't realize it, but you have been spewed out. You played fast and loose with God in your wild youth, treated Him with shameless indifference when he called to you to return to Him, and guess what? He let you go your way. All of the objections posted in this blog are merely justifications for giving up on God which you wanted to do in the first place. You don't realize it, but He got rid of you at the same time. You will be left behind in the soon-coming Rapture. Then you will show up at church the next following Sunday. You will be angry at God for leaving behind someone as wonderful as you. This only happened because you rejected God in the first place. Now you have to live with the terrible consequences of your bad decisions. Stop blaming God for the works of the devil with his sickness, murder, greed, hate, etc. Jesus never did any of those things, and he is the perfect example of how God is. Stop hating God because some pious hypocrite wounded you. They will someday have to give account for everything they did, including hurting you. Don't let some hypocrite offend you so badly that you give up on God and prefer to go straight to hell. He didn't send those people, they sent themselves against you. They will be punished with whatever judgment or justice is appropriate. So will you, by the way, since you will be judged by your own merciless standards. So beware! Repent while you still can.
I can only speak for myself, but every interaction I've ever had with "Christians" in my 53 years has been filled with judgment, repression, dishonesty and abuse. Every single one. However, I've never had a Muslim or Jewish person shame me for mental illness, tell me to submit to my husband, tell me my miscarriages happened because I was a sinner, or sexually assault me. Those dubious honors all belong to Christians.
Load More Replies... I see very explicit, reasonable reasons here as to why people have turned their backs on religion and/or god. Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't mean they aren't completely valid.
Load More Replies... I grew up as a Jehovah Witness. When i was around 16 i had a love interest in a girl from the church that was 15. I was told she could not be my girlfriend because she was spoken for. The male was in his mid to late 20s. Also my sister got pregnant at age 17, before they shunned her, they asked in full graphic details on the details on that night that my now niece was conceived. Sick sick motherfu*kers. I'm getting angry just typing this. The "elders" in that religion are just high ranked pedophiles that do not call authorities for any reason.
Ohhh, the JW's are definitely on my s**t list. Had two knock on my door, and I wanted to be polite, so I allowed them to come in. Offered them tea. We talked about lots of things, as I'd just had my third miscarriage and was looking for answers, comfort... something. And with a smile on their faces, they told me my miscarriages were god's punishment of me for my sins.
Load More Replies... My father ruined it for me. Bastard abused his own family in horrific ways, yet thought he was some sort of saint because he went to church. And the church's members looked up to him as some sort of pillar of community, not realizing how vile he really was. Definitely was one of those "I can do whatever I want and I'll be forgiven for it" sorts who uses religion as an excuse to be a terrible human being.
I realized I was LGBTQIA+, and my parents' religion believes that you need to hide that identity and pretend to be cishet your whole life. that's not something I want, so i started actually thinking about their church and I realized there were many things I didn't agree with. Religion isn't bad necessarily, but it's not for me.
Whatever gets you through the night is how I feel, and I agree with George Carlin: "Religion is like a lift in the shoe, and I say just don't ask me to wear your shoes. And let's not go down and nail lifts onto the natives' feet."
Load More Replies... I was raised by very catholic grandmas and went to a extrenely catholic school. That taught me all i needed to know about religion. Traditional religions are based on terrible times: violent, sexist, where slavery, pedophilia and rape where normal. Their writtings cannot bring good to society because they stop progress. If you read the bibble it is full of those same things; there are plenty of passages promoting sexism, violence against the infidel, against women, rape, slavery... It is horrible. The teachers at my school were all catholic (because they discriminated against anybody else), ad most of them were openly sexist, honophobic, racist, xenophobic... The nuns were there solely for the money. They would charge us a fortune for food and supplies but then we would be served expired food, had roaches in the kitchen and no heating. Its all about hate and profit.
Reading the bible. Actually reading it. Then looking at other religions, realizing that none is better than what I have read. Realizing that one of two things is true. 1) Everything is made up from scratch. 2) There is some truth in it, but it was corrupted so much, that I risk more by following a book than following my best intuition.
Nothing cures Christianity like reading the Bible.
Load More Replies... For me, one of the big reasons I left was all the pressure to be "holy" and "clean" and "modest". It seemed ridiculous that the only way that I would get into the Celestial Kingdom and see my family in the afterlife (Mormon) was by substituting church music for pop and refusing to wear tank tops. It hurt a little, like I was always subliminally being told that I wasn't doing enough. I started to see the contradictions and extreme sexism when I became a teenager and could get on the internet unsupervised and see other points of view. The last straw was after I figured out that I was LGTBQ+ and received a horrible Sunday School lesson on how gay people were unnatural and should go to hell, and that a woman's purpose was to be a mother and wife and that's it. Usually, mormonism isn't that bad, but friendly people aren't enough to keep me wanting to go to boring lessons that I don't really agree with.
my parents are mormons too, and I had a very similar experience to yours. the members of the church aren't all bad people, but I can't be part of something that believes my existence is a sin. thanks for sharing ur story, I love reading about experiences I can relate too, I don't feel so alone :)
Load More Replies... The apartheid state in South Africa. They were not only fascist racists, but also christian fanatics. If you didn't believe, if you didn't want to pray in school, you were SATANIES or KOMMUNISTIES and would at the very least be insulted but quite often beaten up as well. Hence nowadays when someone says they're christian I instantly hear "homophobic racist sexist conservative" as an addendum, and have to monitor them carefully to see how many of those checkboxes they check. Because of PTSD.
Went to confession at 13yo and after I finished with my 'sins' the priest asked me If that was all. I said yes and he asked me if I didn't mind if he ask me some questions to 'refresh my memory'. I said no and he proceeded to ask some question that started innocently and then started getting worst and worst. First about touching myself (witch I answered no), then about doing it in front of others, with other people, etc. I got to the bench and I didn't even pray, I started to think about it why if I answered No to the first question did he continue with that line of questioning. I didn't wanted to go to confession again and sometime after I started questioning everything about religion and so, stop believing.
sounds like you dodged a pedo-bullet there.
Load More Replies... Religion was ruined for me when I was told women were considered second class. I could never grasp that. My mom used to tell me that part was a lie when I was young and to not listen to the priest or nuns if they taught that they just weren't caught up on what god really said bc they were too old to hear it. That kept me ok until I hit my teens. Plus all the fairy tale stuff in the Bible and cults being so dangerous like the FLDS. I finally read up on it and found out most religions were founded by pedophiles and rapists. I mean I can't really think of one that wasn't founded by a pedophilic rapist male which is awfully convenient for them that's why there's such an importance women stay submissive and kids are property they just want to exploit them for their own pleasure not bc they really believe there's a god. They think they're gods.
I went to popular week long camp here. I was told I needed to bring a bible. Thought that was weird. It ended up being a Christian camp. There was a lot of bullying and alienation between the kids, but also sexism amongst the camp counsellors. I made friends with the one girl who was also out-casted in my cabin, as she was not Christian. I wasn't raised more spiritual than religious. My counsellor wanted to speak to me privately and asked if I "accepted God into my life." I felt like I was being pressured to convert to something I wasn't comfortable with.
Went to a basketball sleepaway camp when I was a sophomore. I was pretty disgusted when we had up to 2 hour lectures that talked a LOT about god. Then, a coach went up front talking about how he's decided to let Jesus into his heart. The assistant coach leapt for joy. There I was thinking what the hell have I gotten myself into.🤦🏻♀️
Load More Replies... I come from a family in which most of us believe in God, but we don't attend church. A lot of this has to do with some of the problems that we have had with people in the church. You can be a person of faith without judging others, trying to make money, or acting like you are better than others. I am a Christian, but I am also a supporter of the LGBTQ community and I am very accepting of people from other faiths. No matter what you believe, we are all human and need to love one another.
Sorry I commented a lot! This one just really hit a nerve for me. Religion is something that I tried so hard to believe in just to eventually lose My Faith and have it almost crush me. Religion never let me feel that I was good enough or ever could be good enough no matter what I did. Not every religious person is bad just the Bible thumping zealots I believe. One thing I wish I could get back was the warm fuzzy feeling that somebody was always watching over me and taking care of me from above. That is the only thing that I really miss. I am so sorry that so many of you were hurt and felt unaccepted also.
Join the club. I envy people who can maintain blind faith. I miss that feeling. Just can't do it in the face of overwhelming logic and reason anymore.
Load More Replies... I've never believed, not through all the years of catholic school, just never sat well with me. Some of the worst, meanest people I've ever met were deeply religious. Final nail in the proverbial (or perhaps literal) coffin was that a close friend of mine, who was very religious, went to mass every week etc died before hitting 40 after fighting cancer for the third time. Nah, I don't believe in anything that causes that much pain and suffering to those who deserve it the least. I'll never change my mind, and I'm ok with that. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I'm a decent person who never hurts anyone and always helps when I can - if that isn't enough then I don't want to be in that gang behind those gates
Growing up in a very religious household definately ruined the idea of religion for me. Just the shere amount of expectations since birth to be a good Christian kid forced me to grow up faster than I should have. I didn't have any friends since I was homeschooled, and I was always alone at home since my dad would spend all day in his office doing "religious work." To this day, the only thing my father can talk about with me or my siblings is religion, not even our own lives and interests. I have met some genuinely amazing Christians who love everybody without all the judgement and hate. They are so full of hope and are so kind, and I can tell that they have something I will never understand, and I wish I could have the courage to put my faith in a god and live life in such a content and healthy way. But ever since I moved to the United States, all I see are the big churches and snobby people without any of the same happiness and love that I've seen elsewhere.
I'll be quick, my family said F**k off to religion in the 1920s because of one particular incident: My great-grandfather was told to give away his three children to adoption since he was a single father (great-grandmother died gaving birth to the third child) and it was "unnatural" for a kid to grow up without a mother. He told them to get you know what and raised his three childrens by himself.
Of all the very very good reasons to leave the church, the one that finally did it for me was that it just didn't make sense. I was driving in my car one day, and for no reason at all it just dawned on me. The whole thing just doesn't make any sense. It was a terrifying thought, and didn't have immediate affect, but once I thought it, the end was inevitable. It just doesn't make any sense.
The sex scandal in the church is what woke me up. These old men would stand there and tell loving consenting couples they would go to hell because they were gay and then turn around and rape little boys?
But that wasn't gay because they were on top, classic Roman loophole, they just forgot to get rid of it when Rome fell.
Load More Replies... I feel kinda sad that people had this horrible experinses with religion. I have had it great with religion and it makes me feel whole I hope anyone who had been abused or something like that will be able to forget that.
Sadly, people don't just "forget" abuse, especially if it's coming from someone they should be able to trust implicitly. Abuse leaves a scar.
Load More Replies... I hope people who read this don’t think all religion is bad. A lot of people at my church are so kind and not rude like people think.
No, I do not think that all all religious people are bad. I have met and know some truly kindhearted, tolerant, brave, and empathetic people who are religious. I actually wanted to become a female priest growing up and inspire and provide solace to the LGBTQIA+ community and other marginalized communities. Sadly, it is the bad eggs that can give religion a bad name; they are the ones whom we always hear about in the news. I always thought that religion at it's very core was to teach us to love others, become more accepting, and greet difficult and challenging situations with grace and dignity.
Load More Replies... I stopped being friends with someone because of religion. We'd known each other since school and still hung out after we'd finished college. There was a chick he was dating and she was Christian. She told him that she can't be with him unless he converted. So he did something called an Alpha course, which is basically "How to be a Christian 101". One evening yeeeeeeeeears ago, he invited me round to his place for a few bevvies and a catch up. I have no idea how we got onto the subject but he started prattling on about religion (despite only being a Christian because he wanted to bone some broad) and told me that my mother, who he'd met, was going to hell because she was Muslim. After a few seconds of my brain flatlining, I left and never spoke to him again. C*nt.
Why TF does anyone need a religion or a church? If you believe in a God you don't need religion and man-made prayers! I'm pretty sure that if God wanted people to follow a religion he would have written it himself and there would only be one religion not many unless God had a multiple personality disorder of mass proportions. Also, of all the races/ethnicities on Earth, how does ONLY one get to manure the world and claim that they and only they are God's chosen people?
For me: Cafeteria Catholics (picking & choosing what tenets you follow for your own religion). Buddha not saving my Buddhist mom from dying of cancer (yes, i know that dying is part of a Buddhist's journey. I'd still rather have my mom back). Religious idiots who got in a circle & prayed instead of calling 911 when a softball teammate (and family member of their's) had a heart attack on the mound. He didnt make it. I ended up calling 911 & would have done so more quickly but I sat there for a minute not believing my eyes that they though prayer would save him.
I went to a catholic girls' school here in Ireland. When She was 15 my friend fell pregnant and was told by our principle who was a nun she had to leave the school because "they could not be seen to tolerate a teen pregnancy". A year later we had a priest come to the school and give religion classes. The principle happily embraced his presence despite the fact he was having a full on relationship with a woman who was separated with 3 kids. Catholic priests are supposed to shun all types of relationships like that but that didn't matter to sister Mary. It was also around this time that all the news started breaking out about the pedophile priests and what was happening in Irish schools up and down the country during 40s 50s and 60s and of course in the Magdalen laundries. All of this made me hate my Catholic faith.
I attended a church-affiliated state school for a time, and the pastor/vicar/whatever would give a lecture, sorry sermon every couple of weeks. One time was all about how believing in ghosts was irrational etcetera, and the next time (I kid you not) we were told all about the "Holy Ghost". I was only 9 or 10 at the time but the logical contradiction was obvious.
It is absolutely sick teaching children that they're stained with sin and they're going to be punished forever if they don't obey. So many people screwed up by being taught that they're "damaged" when they're just human.
I’m 35 and a pivotal religious teaching I am still working to overcome is that thoughts themselves aren’t good or bad; they are just thoughts. I essentially shared a brain with a deity for 15+ years. I’m just now learning that everyone has weird thoughts and that doesn’t make someone a bad person. It’s our actions that make us good or bad people.
My family stopped going when, after my father was laid off from his job, the bishop came over to the house one day and demanded to know why we hadn't tithed in the last two Sundays. My dad explained that he didn't have the money and the bishop called all of thirteen of kids to come stand next to him on the porch and listen. Then he proceeded to berate my father for not giving any money and told us all how we should be ashamed of my parents and how heavenly father was ashamed of them. Then he asked all of us if we had any money that we could give. I distinctly remember him saying "Maybe you kids should your pocket money in. Got any pocket money for me?" Skeeved me out and I was like 6. We never went back to that church again. We tried a few more over the years, but the hypocrisy or hateful comments about the size of our family drove us away.
I think all religions are stupid, but I don't care what people believe in as long as they don't try shoving it down my throat or using it as an excuse to crap on other people.
A god who sends cancer to children and lets them suffer and die? Thanks, but no, thanks.
I went to bible study group and confessed my husband was abusive and I wanted help to leave. I was told that I would one day I would have to answer God as to why my marriage didn't work so was I sure I didn't want to stay and keep trying? Then to be told to calm down by a minister when husband was found to have been having an affair with someone at church and I was upset. Last straw was being told I should stop taking medication gp had prescribed for anxiety as only god could heal me. Walked out, never looked back. That medication saved my life, for sure.
I grew up in the Mormon church and one of the things that makes it different from others is that it's run by the congregation. Like the bishop is literally just some random dude from the area with no study, and same for all the other church positions. There's a big corporate part of that church that gives guidelines for what to teach, but other than that everyone has a different answer for everything
My mom was an atheist and my dad is too. When I started school, I asked "Who made God?" and I got shouted at for it. That was when the last bit of religion died for me and I turned into a fun-loving little sh*t who, aged 5, went around trying to make people laugh
I have a question? How come all of the Roman, Greek and Egyptian gods are all mythological but God and other religion's gods aren't?
well yes. As Dawkins says, "We are all atheists in respect of the ancient gods, but some of us just go one god further."
Load More Replies... When I was 13 to 16 it was the period I used to go to church. For me it was quite, peace, I was relaxed, but I started to feel the pressure from others, how fake many of them were. It was sad because I had so many questions and the only answer was "believe, don't ask". I have friends from other religions and they are wonderful. I met also mean church people. Because they go and pray, they feel entitled to judge others. I traveled around the world and I can't believe God exist. People are good and bad. Every religion is made up to control us. I live in a religious country where we have more churches than schools and hospitals together. Some may say that a church can harm, but the people can. So they go to church and leave it hating others for being different (ex. LGBTQ+), but those are better humans than many religious people.
If a religious leader can't easily answer your questionsor at least try...it's a cult..plain and simple
Well not weird at all you guys are fed up religion, jehovas witness mormons and other free churches.. all crazy.But remember there are normal modest christians to, i grew up catholic , i never experienced any of this weird s**t you are descibing
If you create an image of God to suit your selves and serve your conscious you get a god ( little g on purpose). and an imperfect one at that the God I got to know has never let me down I have let him down he asks ONLY TWO THINGS Love God and your neighbour. The thief on the cross gave no tithes no religious works nothing yet Jesus said to him to day you will be with me in paradise. Why you seek the answer for you self.
I have no personal bad experiences with Christianity, just what is general knowledge. My family (my dad mainly) is Christian. We have never gone to church, we are full supporters of the lgbtq+ community and women’s rights. Which is why we’ve never gone to church, hard to find one that isn’t homophobic. I’ve always assumed that I was Christian by default, but I’m now coming to realize that, I really just don’t believe. I’d like to think that there is something up there, maybe there is, but it isn’t what the Bible says. I’m not sure. I heard my parents talking recently about going back to church, trying to find a good one (I don’t want to, I went once on Easter a couple years back, boring as hell) and it’s ok if we don’t believe but to try and steer us in that direction, which is okay I guess. So yeah.
I married a non practicing Catholic, she was a single mom. Soon after she was with my child and after she was born my wife wonted her to be baptized. Now I'm not a religious man but went to see the local priest. I asked about getting my daughter baptized, he told me that I would have to become a Catholic too before he's consider doing it. I said no way, he then threatened that my daughter would burn in hell fire because of me. I told him that no way God or Jesus would do that to an innocent child or person and he was full of sh*t and wasn't a man of any God I'd worship. Never been in a church since. Bustards. 🤬😡😡😡
Ooh my mother, supposedly a good Christian, but who the hells treats their kids like s**t and then tells them to trust god in their lives? Yeah f**k that. I’d rather follow Loki thanks, at least that guy has balls and isn’t afraid to use them
Not one thing, just an amateurish study of history. Since man started worshipping stuff, rocks, trees, the sun, etc right up to the present day religion always involves supporting a priest class that at best is a useless burden and at worst is a hypocritical hate monger. It's the one thing that every religion has in common. Believe whatever you want , you don't need an intermediary.
Every religion being adamant that their fantasy book is the only true book while other are "mythologies". The fact that 99% of believers pick their religion not based on examining all of them and choosing the one that makes most sense, but from being indoctrinated by their environment.
It's crazy how religion can effect people in so many ways. I was lucky to grow up with a very good religious experience mainly led by my dad who is an AMAZING person. Religion has really helped me live a happy life that I feel I'm getting the most out of and the way I have been taught it's been an amazing support for growth in all areas. Lately I have been thinking about how I haven't really made much effort to look into other religions to see if there are any I believe in more so if any of you want to share your beliefs (whatever they are) with me I'd be grateful. I don't expect I'll switch religions but I do want to make my decision knowing the options. Sorry to bother people :)
It's sad. A lot of these religions are good. But the people in them are messed up or using the teachings as justification for there own behavior.
I lost whatever faith I'd had drilled into me (church, Sunday School, Catholic School, etc) by the still tender age of 9. That's the year I remember praying on my knees on the floor of a Jeep in the parking lot of a cheap motel because I knew where this was going. Yeah, those prayers didn't work. Neither did the silent ones I said in my head for years after, just in case. Once I realized I was completely alone, I stopped believing. Very freeing in its own way.
ive grown up catholic, and things like this is why i want to leave catholicism (i was born into a catholic family. have gone to catholic school my whole life. i still have 3 years to go before college. yeah i dont think that being bisexual and not supporting the religion i was born into help me, especially since my parents aren't the most liberal...yeah they're kinda conservative and we're in california. southern california.) also, the church is very much a cult. once you're baptized into it (which i was at birth, not my choice) you cabt leave unless you tell your bishop. so the bishop might berate you. if youre too scared, youre always considered catholic. you cant really leavw the damn church. f**k that. s**t that was too much but thats my rant. sorry
I'm a christian and in my opion you can't hate the whole company for some co-worker's b******t. Its manly if not all People to blame like everything else not God
i don't knwo if I ever Valued religion. but i stopped believing it was worthy of anything around the age of 6 or 7 when i started learning how to recognize that some of the stuff adults were telling me was b******t.
For many many reasons above stated. But I was done with organized religion realizing the money these churches have and how they use it. Not just mega churches. The Vatican sits on a mound of riches, yet closes its churches in Chicago for lack of donations. From the struggling poor. I just finished reading the bible - how can they just this to their congregations! Plus here in the US, the amount of Christians that are so un-Christian like is abysmal. Among a ton of things, won't wear a mask to protect others? I believe in a higher power and after reading the bible I actually love Jesus and HIS teachings (big change from non-believing). But organized religion is just a money and power grab.
Do you love the verse Matt 10:34? Or how about 1 Timothy 2:12 and 1 Corinthians 14:34?
Load More Replies... What does it mean that most (all?) of these posts are about monotheistic religions? Do Buddhists not mess up their kids? Are Jains immune from hypocrisy?
Bad parents mess up their kids. Unfair to blame religion. Most Abrahamic religions are strict about rules. Most Asian/African religions are not dogmatic. Most Indic religions are not focused on god worship, but rather enlightenment to realize you are not a separate entity from God.
Load More Replies... Get an abortion or don't, Be gay, be straight, Be transgender, Believe in God, be an atheist, I am pro-leave people alone, I'm pro-respect people Even if you disagree with them I'm pro-supporting family And friends, I'm pro-mind your own damn business! Is appropriate here
After reading this list I'm so glad I ended up with the Norse gods/Ásatrú. :) pretty much no rules, no hell, no good vs. Bad, the gods ain't that much better than humans in their morality. Oh, and it's ok to call the gods little sh*ts. Lol. But seriously.... as a little kid I believed in the Christian god because I had a tape with the story of Adam and Eve and I could hear the voice of "God" on the tape. But then my granddad died and I became an Atheist. As a teen I got into the spiritual witchy stuff and then, when I studied religion and history at uni, I realized that Ásatrú had always sparked my interest in some very deep way and now that I got to study that faith I realized it was just oh so right for me. :) It's still a bit difficult for me to lay off some Christian practices, though. Like... prayer. I sort of like prayer, but it's not part of Ásatrú. So that is one thing I "struggle" with.
...and I thought being born a woman in a Theravada Buddhist country/culture/society/family has terminally messed ME up hardcore. I mean, it's not a competition or anything, I just thought the missionaries that insidiously twist, bend and demonize our native faiths were just the bad ones, sent away from their churches in punishment. I later learned they CHOSE to go into other people's countries, actively find something to get offended about and act all holier-than-thou. For some reason I never thought about the average Christian though and how they worship. Those poor kids. Wow, just... wow.
When my father spent his first Xmas in Canada he went to go to mass on Christmas Eve and was denied entry because he couldn't donate to the basket. He arrived in Canada about 2 months earlier with less than $20 in his pocket. He has never been to church since.
I grew up going to church, all my life. Then I started exploring gender and sexuality, and came out to my "friends" at church. Who outed me to everyone else in the church. My family stopped going to church after that because I would be shot dirty looks and people would tell me to go to hell, or that God wouldn't accept me if I kept going down this path. That's when I decided that if everything was Gods plan, his plan would include queer individuals. So why would I stay in a church with people who don't seem to understand that? (EDIT: we left the church when I was nearly 14. all of this happened before that)
In total? It's been the ever growing realization that we're all just A Speck. One being among billions. One place among billions. Not even seeable from far enough away, and yet... Still all part of one, contained universe... And the thought that other universes must surely exist, with billions of bodies and beings of their own. To want to know an All Being that could Create all of this wonder is a journey of Self, too. But that's discouraged "in the church". Instead, like formal education, they want to take all the forests and turn them into Pencils.
Mass-Hysteria and delusion, apart from the fact that only a few really read and understood the books...
I read about the lives of saints - just about all of the holy men and women were aristocratic. I then asked how it was easy for them to ostentatiously give away all their wealth etc. And that they could easily dedicate their whole lives to God when they no doubt had oodles of servants to take care of the food etc. Wrong questions apparently.
I tried like hell to find one that wasn't completely illogical and, on its deepest level, hateful.
All I know is I could say Pikachu is God and have the same amount of proof of that as I would any other God. Plus as someone pointed out, what kind of God would allow the things that happen in this world?
This is so sad that religion is generized like this. Most churches are lovely places to be and a lot of people are really happy there. It needs to be clear that this isn’t every church ever.
I grew up in a sort of New Age household. A mixture of sermon on the mount Christianity, a buffet of white suburban American misunderstandings of Buddhism, some weird place called the Church of Astara, and a random smattering of books on karma, past lives and guardian angels. I believed in a constantly changing and evolving version of this, and whatever other New Age garbage books I fell for until I was about 30. I was debating with a born-again Christian coworker (it was polite, we were friends), but then I was thinking intently about it after work. About how contradictory and capricious and just plain weird so much of Christianity is, and then it was like a slap in the face: my beliefs were certainly “nicer,” with no hell or Satan or retribution, but they didn’t make any more sense than his. It was all just magic, and we all just pick the magic we want and discard the rest. I was an atheist by morning.
I miss in the list that religion is one of the main reasons in many conflicts. Over 5.000.000 people died 75 years ago, because they had the wrong religion. Fights in Northern Ireland, because they believe in a different version of the same god. Reasons to defend racism, descriminition of women, lgbt rights, etc... were all found in the bible.
I really just had a hard time believing that Jesus died and then rose again. I just REALLY think that was made up. I’ve read and read all the texts and songs… They are just coping mechanisms to me. I don’t connect well with the idea that millions of people need a savior to justify their belief. I can believe in a god, not believe in a savior and still be a good person. It’s not necessarily something that religion has to justify.
For me it was actually reading the history of Christianity. Not their storybook „the bible“ but how Christianity actually came to be over the centuries. After that that was it for me, plus the fact I started developing my scientific mind and stopped believing in magic. Religion would habe much less follower if they wouldn’t start indoctrinating children at an early age
the scariest scripture in the bible is Rev. 3:16.... "So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. " Sorry, but you liberals and humanists don't realize it, but you have been spewed out. You played fast and loose with God in your wild youth, treated Him with shameless indifference when he called to you to return to Him, and guess what? He let you go your way. All of the objections posted in this blog are merely justifications for giving up on God which you wanted to do in the first place. You don't realize it, but He got rid of you at the same time. You will be left behind in the soon-coming Rapture. Then you will show up at church the next following Sunday. You will be angry at God for leaving behind someone as wonderful as you. This only happened because you rejected God in the first place. Now you have to live with the terrible consequences of your bad decisions. Stop blaming God for the works of the devil with his sickness, murder, greed, hate, etc. Jesus never did any of those things, and he is the perfect example of how God is. Stop hating God because some pious hypocrite wounded you. They will someday have to give account for everything they did, including hurting you. Don't let some hypocrite offend you so badly that you give up on God and prefer to go straight to hell. He didn't send those people, they sent themselves against you. They will be punished with whatever judgment or justice is appropriate. So will you, by the way, since you will be judged by your own merciless standards. So beware! Repent while you still can.
I can only speak for myself, but every interaction I've ever had with "Christians" in my 53 years has been filled with judgment, repression, dishonesty and abuse. Every single one. However, I've never had a Muslim or Jewish person shame me for mental illness, tell me to submit to my husband, tell me my miscarriages happened because I was a sinner, or sexually assault me. Those dubious honors all belong to Christians.
Load More Replies... I see very explicit, reasonable reasons here as to why people have turned their backs on religion and/or god. Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't mean they aren't completely valid.
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