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There are certain things that, if we value peace and quiet, we don’t talk about. Namely the holy trinity of topics which are musical taste, politics, and religion. But here we are, talking about religion.

But instead of preaching, the lovely people of Reddit are sharing stories of experiences that made them drastically rethink the whole concept of faith, losing it in the process.

In particular, this thread has been going viral lately after someone asked folks to share what exactly ruined religion for people, and getting over 48,600 upvotes with nearly 39,000 comments along the way.

So, sit back, relax, and read through the frustration that is losing one’s religion in our curated list of the best answers below. And while you’re at it, poke that upvote button, comment your own opinions and stories and whatnot, and consider checking out any other question from Reddit that we’ve discussed here.

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#1

30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group As a kid, it was boring. As a teen, it brought nothing into my life. As an adult, it's hard to ignore all the corruption, greed, sexual improprieties and contradiction. Ultimately, if there was a god, this is the best it can do? I'm not impressed.

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DennyS (denzoren)
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to agree with your sentiments. I always wonder the same....especially like, why are babies born with diseases and pain? They did nothing to deserve that....why are children being killed daily? They have done nothing wrong.

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    #2

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group People using it to justify their hate.

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    Bazinga
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a serious issue. In no place in the bible does it say that being homosexual is a sin, but many people look for excuses for their biases

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    #3

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group So many things but the final straw for me was my church asking a homeless man to leave and not come back. He would sit and listen to the sermons never bothered anyone and always sat in the very back. I confronted my youth group leader and she defended the preacher.

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    Nathaniel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do they think Jesus was against helping the homeless?

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    #4

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group When I was 6 years old, the pastor gave a letter to my aunt to give to my mom saying that we were not donating enough money to the church. So we stopped going, and I have never been to church since.

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    Nathaniel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Donations are voluntary are they not? That pastor was a k******d.

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    #5

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group The expectations for women to be subservient to men and have no further aspirations than “wife and mother”.

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    Nathaniel
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religion really screws with women's rights. I was told once, by a chauvinist Christian that women have different rights, but they are still equal rights.

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    #6

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group I worked at a restaurant near a church on Sundays. Rudest bunch of people ever.

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    deanna woods
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work in a restaurant too and they are rude.

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    #7

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group It quickly became evident that many people who call themselves religious, only do so to feel morally superior to others around them, and then use that superiority to try to control everything they can.

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    Nikki Sevven
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which is morally superior, though? Subsuming morals that have been imposed on you by a church, or developing your own morals based on the idea that you should treat others the way you would like to be treated in similar circumstances? The latter actually requires self-reflection and thought, and can be modified as the times change. The former merely requires blind obedience and, apparently, judgment of others.

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    #8

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group As a kid, someone explaining to me that my dog that just passed away wouldn't be in heaven. I'd never see him again. Because dogs can't accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. So he was going to hell. Pretty much done with it after that.

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    Jelena
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For me, it was a claim that animals have no soul. and I am absolutely sure that they have it, both reason and soul, and more than some people.

    Joel Hopkins
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are many more soulless assholes in corporate board rooms than there ever was in any animal shelter.

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    Tamra Stiffler
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm going to be petty and vulgar about this one. Here goes: Dogs (and pets in general) are a source of pure love. If there is a wonderful plane of existence we retire to after death, then dogs will surely be there. Anyone who claims differently can kiss my whole ass - right, left and stinky middle.

    HarriMissesScotland
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The night my mother died her dog would not allow me in her bedroom, even though she died in the hospital. He grieved himself to death and died 4 months later. Tell me he didn't have a soul. My own dog, lay in front of the room where my mother stayed in my home and cried for days. He also grieved when my MIL died. They had pure souls.

    peruchipac
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ohmygoodness those tender puppers. Your mother must've been a wonderful soul they related to.

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    David Stone
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Will Rogers — 'If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.'

    Maria Rodriguez
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All dogs go to heaven. Every single one of them.

    Got Myself 4 Pandas
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If there is such a thing as heaven I think we can all agree that it's filled with the many good pups that have existed

    deanna woods
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is a bunch of nonsense and that person is full of crap. Dogs don't have to do anything like that because they are already sinless.

    Melonie Hunt
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have heard this also with Christianity. It doesn't work for this reason. People needed redemption and to accept Jesus Christ because they fell from grace. Animals never fell from grace, so there is no need for redemption. That doesn't mean God did not create them, breathe souls into them and love them all the same. IE in bible in the beginning God created all living things.

    CV Vir
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. Only humans have “original sin.” Anyone who thinks animals go to hell hasn’t actually read the Bible. On the other hand, it’s reading the bible that made agnosticism much more viable. That thing is a massive knot of contradictions,

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    Ricardo Ferreira
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This explanation is so dumb that I don't even know what to say. So, like, all the Animal Kingdom is in Hell because they can't understand the concept of religion???

    Nick Johnson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep this is how stupid some religious people are.

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    Body will self-destruct in 5..
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My pastor had this belief. As an avid animal lover, I hounded him for a year until he finally relented. I argued that animals have pure souls as they do not sin, love unconditionally and will sacrifice themselves to protect/save their people. When he changed his mind, he said, " I cannot imagine you being happy without your animals. So, in order for your soul to be at perfect peace and joyfulness, there must be animals in heaven." Years later, I heard him use that same logic to console a little girl who just lost her dog to cancer.

    Tamra Stiffler
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good for you for teaching your pastor something new, and good for him for being willing to learn.

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    Emily Hendren
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My FIL told the same thing to my daughter and I was LIVID

    John Dilligaf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well the Catholic church at least takes the opposite view. Pope Paul VI (1963-1978) said “One day, we will see our animals again in the eternity of Christ. Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures.”

    DonS
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So you're telling me all animals goes to Hell and you want me to accept your Jesus guy to NOT go there ? Fûck your Savior, I'm going to roll around with puppies and kittens for eternity in Hell!

    jknbt jknbt
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    all the pictures in the bible of heaven show animals up there... Jesus is coming back in the second coming riding on a horse. I would like to see the horse stables up there where they keep all the beautiful horses. Don't hate God because your own theology is screwed up.

    Toothless Feline
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why does anyone feel a need to say sh*t like this? Jesus didn't die to save dogs from their sins. I'm pretty sure dogs can't sin. No sin, no fall, no savior necessary.

    Furmama0501
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a petsitter and was close to this particular family I sat for. When I went to say goodbye to one of their dogs before she passed I had a conversation with the oldest. She told me that her teacher told her dogs do not go to heaven. Not only did the idea upset me (and her as I tried to comfort her), but this teacher was a member of the church I was a member of. I lost respect for him after that.

    DeeDee M
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always understood it to be like this; animals don't have souls, but animals are a gift from God to mankind, and an important part of creation. He loves them too, of course they are in Heaven! I cant picture a Heaven without my gigantic, fluffy kitty from childhood. He'd better be there, that's all I can say.

    AKRaven
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd rather be with dogs in hell than with those "Christians" in their heaven...

    Chris Zaydel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a no brainer, dogs take priority.

    Carlotta Müller
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How mean! Animals are the purest. If there is a god and a heaven then animals are the first to get there! In hell? Never! Hell no! But people who tell such things to children go to hell!

    Miss Frankfurter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every pet I've ever had, right down to my hamsters are there. Mitzy, Pepper, Morris, Katy, my Little Lucy Loo. How can they say that?! It wouldn't be "the good place" if there weren't animals.

    Just me, myself, and I
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This moment is exactly when I shut down towards the church. I think I was in 7th grade.

    Strawberry Moofin
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm christian and I don't believe that heaven exists.

    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's interesting. I'm Christian and I believe in heaven, but not hell. There were no 'hell fire and brimstone' sermons in my denomination. My view of heaven isn't necessarily the same as other Christians. I believe that anyone, regardless of faith, if they were a good person, they will be accepted in heaven, which is basically just a non-corporeal realm of joy.

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    Alexandra Nara
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WTF.."good boys" go to hell but their own pedo priests will get absolution and Invitation to heaven?? That causes revenge fantasies in my mind even Tarantino would be scared of

    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trust me- the majority of everyday Catholics do not believe pedophiles go to heaven just because they are priests.

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    Aballi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my dad was a kid, he asked his catholic grandma about Ghandi. Her response: "he was a great man, but he wasn't catholic, so he is in hell". My dad pretty much checked out of Catholicism after that.

    Snorky The Pig
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not because he isnt catholic but he may be in hell. he slept with young girls.

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    Phil Vaive
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had religious neighbours growing up, and they told me that I was going to hell because my parents were divorced. Even the parents told me this.

    Spring Fisk
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wow, that is horrible. That is not only really mean, their statement is not Biblical.

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    Hotomato
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My daughter lost her brother, my son, when she was 10. He was 6. She went to a "Christian" bible camp one summer and asked one of the leaders if her brother was in heaven because he was only 6 when he died. The woman told my daughter that her brother was in hell b/c he hadn't accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. She cried the rest of the day! What an evil person to say that to a child!

    Louise Stange-Wahl
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religion is the face of evil. Believe what you want but don't impose on anyone else. What a cruel thing to say to a little kid. I remember when I was just 7 years old, questioning religion and they even called my parents (they paid tuition to these jerks...I hated it. ). They backed me up 100% and told them I was entitled to believe as I wished and not be indoctrinated. I had awesome parents! Corporal punishment (which the the nuns gave out every single day to someone) was their MO. Hateful, terrible, and I am proud that now 60+ I have never wavered!

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    Reda Šniokaitė
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just spent 5 mins recovering my password so I could up vote this ^

    Mikaela
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I stopped going to church when the pastor told me my still born twin was in hell for that same reason. I won't accept a god that punishes babies for eternity.

    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sorry for your loss. There is no way your babies are in hell, and many denominations agree. Jesus preaches love, especially for children. Their 'baptismal' status or whatever does not affect that.

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    Phil Green
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a dog can't accept JC as his saviour, I fail to see how it will go to a contrived place of religious making. I once worked in a Muslim school. I really enjoyed it, the students were awesome and we really got a long. One day the bursar asked me to make him a bacon sandwich. I pointed out it was Ramadan, but he insisted, so I made it for him (yes, I know pork and he was also Muslim, I know). I gave it to him and he told me I would probably be going to Hel for doing that and I pointed out for that to happen, I would have to believe in a god first! He laughed and agreed. Good people, good sense of humour.

    Donna Swallow
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's obvious that animals have souls. You can feel their souls. If anybody doesn't sense the souls of animals then they are just insensitive to their souls or blind to them. In the Bible it says "Let everything that has breath praise the Lord". How can anybody or anything which doesn't have a soul praise the Lord?

    Jessany Trotter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny cos dogs are more deserving than most humans…

    Alexia
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I second that. If the heaven they are preaching doesn't accept my cats, my dog and my parrots, then I won't go to their so-called heaven

    Terri Reynolds
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dogs are special angels sent to provide mankind with unconditional love and acceptance. They are of heaven.

    jonathan bobathan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the f**k? if there even is heaven, dogs would most definitely go. they are the most wholesome things on this planet (red pandas are a close second, in my opinion). us humans are s**t (well, not all of us, but so many more are shitty than there are painted out to be, regardless of religion/race/orientation). sorry if this was a rant but things like this is why i want to leave catholicism (i was born into a catholic family. have gone to catholic school my whole life. i still have 3 years to go before college. yeah i dont think that being bisexual and not supporting the religion i was born into help me, especially since my parents aren't the most liberal...yeah they're kinda conservative and we're in california. southern california.) s**t that was too much but thats my rant. sorry

    Stephanie A Mutti
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Visiting a "christian" service when the youth ministry performed a skit where the bad person who accepted Jesus went to heaven, but the good person hadn't and so OFF to hell with them. ahem,,, CULT,,,

    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, that sounds like a cult! Not all Christians even agree about hell. My denomination never preached the whole 'hellfire' thing. I have always believed everyone will be welcomed into heaven, regardless of faith, as long as they have tried to be a good person.

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    Pudgy Panda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If there is a heaven, I’m pretty darn sure there will be a lot more pets making the cut than people.

    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That person really needs to read the book 'Do dogs go to heaven?'! With so many animal lovers who are Christian, how could heaven not have your lost pets?

    crazy-dog-lady
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That one episode on Twilight Zone said it all. If my dog isn't allowed in, I'm not going in.

    Pam Page
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am absolutely positive that your dog will be waiting patiently for you two to continue your shared journey.

    Weim Central
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe in the religion that states "Your path to heaven is lined with all the animals you've ever met." Sounds a bit Buddhist but seems a perfect assessment of our "humanity".

    Jag Yu
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wtf. my dogs have more soul than some of the people i know

    D K
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All animals go to “heaven”. Dot, period, end of discussion.

    Amelia Kathleen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh ffs, if anyone among us is going to heaven it's dogs. Dummies.

    GoddessOdd
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If there are no dogs in heaven, then I don't want to go either. Not that I believe in heaven, but still...

    Sesshomaru
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't really believe in a soul but if such a thing does exist then dogs have got one And I'm with Don bluth on this one, all dogs go to heaven.

    Celeste Finn
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No wonder. Those people were so stuck and mistaken. Forgive them. If there is a Heaven, it is highly populated by dogs.

    BarBeeGirl
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But they were wrong! We know all dogs go to heaven

    Suzi Q
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's made-up crap. The Bible doesn't say anything about pets. Where the Bible is silent, we can't speculate anything. I believe I will see my pets in heaven. By their reasoning, babies who die wouldn't go to heaven either.

    Anton Kider
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually Pope Benedict XVI said that dogs do go to heaven...

    Spring Fisk
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, that's crazy. In the Bible it lists that their will be animals in heaven so I am pretty sure that means your pets too.

    René Studer
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can you possibly enjoy heaven without doggies??!

    J. F.
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, guess I'll aiming for hell then

    Carolyn Stokes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was told by a friend they didn’t go to heaven but went to purgatory well I call BS, going by what christianity is supposed to stand for my pets would be sitting by Gods right hand!!

    Angela Philp
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or babies before they have been christened

    Seán Hannan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nobody "has" a soul. I *am* a soul. I *have* a body.

    Patricia Perrings
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't imagine a heaven without dogs, and cats.

    Donna Harris
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would think God gave us pets to love and comfort us..why wouldn't they be in heaven. The bible says the lamb will lie down with the lion (maybe it's not metaphoric) I'd like to think that heaven is full of pets, everybody enjoy slurpy kisses and terrific purrs.

    Anna Lessens
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dogs aren't allowed in heaven?!? That doesn't make sense.... Where do you think they came from?

    Katinka Min
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is such a stupid claim!! Even Martin Luther himself said, when asked if there are dogs in heaven 'Do you think heaven is a barren place?' And why would a dog or indeed any animal end up in hell? that makes no sense whatsoever. I am an angostic but I truly loathe people who just take whatever sick idea comes into their head and claim it's dogma.

    Jean Thompson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an incredibly unkind thing to say to a child.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See - this is where I & "religion" have to part. So - the little bush man who's never heard of Jesus, but has lived a good & honorable life, won't go to heaven because he hasn't accepted Christ into his life???? Go f*ck yourself Christianity.

    Sheena Leversedge Wood
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    anyone that would think a dog would go to hell, or doesn't have a soul (fine if they don't believe souls exist at all, but not if they think only humans do) is a horrible person. also, the wonkiness of that window and door is bothering me.

    Timothy Leung
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All dogs go to heaven, and they all consider their master personal saviours!

    peruchipac
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F that! All of my pets have had purer hearts than any human (aside from babies - who also haven't 'accepted jesus' yet). So I guess they're all hanging out somewhere together, til I get there.

    Nick Johnson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a load of garbage…other animals besides homosapians going to hell…lol

    Silre
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No heaven will not ever Heaven be. Unless my cats are there to welcome me.

    Marissa Taylor
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeahh my mom and al of use bleive that animals go to heaven. my old pastor didn't tho.. ^^;

    Sydney-Kate
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My church says that animals were put on earth for the humans to care about, use as pets and companions, and for food. We are also taught that our pets will be in heaven with us.

    Deborah Rubin
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Didn't the pope say that dogs go to heaven?

    MusicalNerd
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the ox; and dust shall be the serpent’s food. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith Jehovah.' Isaiah 65:25 https://my.bible.com/bible/12/ISA.65.25

    buttonpusher
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nnnghh that picture bothers me!

    Ria Weyprecht
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This picture is no church but the university of Leipzig, Germany

    Elle Malkamäki
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That round window being off centre is triggering me

    ColdBlooded
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In islam you see all the animals one last time on the day of judgement, then they are turned to dust. Then poeple are judged to go to heaven or hell or in between

    C Ronz
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The facade of the pic isn't even and its bothering the hell outta me

    Sara Frazer
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen too many "architecture/design fails" on here so I have to say, about this image... The lower white-outlined window not lining up with the circular window bothers me... 😬 (also OP I'm sorry, that was a truly cruel and sh*tty thing to say to a kid...)

    Lisa Whipp Myhre
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that door not being centered to the window is upsetting as well.

    Glenn McHenry
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Humans are made in the image of God, meaning we are the pinnacle of his creation because we can have a personal relationship with God. If humans reject God, then we, the Soul, are destined for Hell. In my opinion, all other life returns to God regardless because they have no Souls but spirit only.

    Dragons Exist
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We aren't the image of anything because we weren't created by any 3rd force. I was created by my parents and not some diety.

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    Daniel Marsh
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    This deserves some sort of Raspberry Award equivalent for ignorant theology. Why would a dog go to Hell? They aren't descended from Adam, so what need have they for a savior?

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    #9

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Being told it was gods plan after my mother suffered through chemotherapy, and still passed away. I have no interest in a god who’s plan includes cancer

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    MarmotArchivist
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sayings something like this to someone who lost their mother. This makes me want to punch them in the face.

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    #10

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group When I realized the Bible wasn't written by God/Jesus and it was written by man and was written like 200 years after Jesus's death. Like I can't even 100% trust the word of a good friend who heard something from someone else in 2022, let alone some game telephone from 2000 years ago.

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    Nikki Sevven
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, rules that would have made perfect sense for the protection of a tribe in the Bronze Age (most of Leviticus) make absolutely no sense in the modern world. We can eat shellfish now, because we have freezers. We can get tattoos and piercings, because we have autoclaves. And so on.

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    #11

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group There’s a short period of time where most of the religion started. Everything prior is mythology and everything after is a cult. Hmm, how convenient.

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is one of the biggest problem with traditional religions. They originate in ancient times, brutal, violent and sexist. How is it logical to follow rules that were developed thousands of years ago in a very different society? I dont need bronze and iron age people to tell me how to behave, how to dress, what to eat or whom to love.

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    #12

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Going to a megachurch. They received over 1 mil in donations every weekend and spent it on elaborate props and videos rather than helping the community in any meaningful way.

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    Kona Pake
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do the elaborate props and videos include the Learjet, the Bentley and the weeklong retreat at European resorts?

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    #13

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group The lack of compassion and rejection of science

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    Nathaniel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have noticed science is only accepted if it supports the religious worldview in some way. Any other science is to be dismissed.

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    #14

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group I was 6 years old in a Saudi elementary school. There was this one Christian Bosnian kid whose dad was a butcher, he was incredibly kind and often gave me delicious smoked meat sandwiches. The thought of him going to Hell as a non-Muslim was illogical, and made me question religion for the first time.

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    Jamie Sterling
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was 12, I was told you had to believe in Jesus to go to heaven. I asked what about the other people in other countries that never even heard about Jesus. I was told they weren't going to heaven. My God wouldn't keep good people out of heaven just because they didn't know about Jesus. Goodness and kindness get you into heaven, not Jesus or religion in my belief system. I'm a nurse.

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    #15

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group The non-answers to all my questions as a kid. "You just have to have faith" is a dumb way to respond to an inquisitive mind.

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    Nathaniel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perhaps they were referring to George Michael.

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    #16

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group I started caring about what is actually true. All the contradictions of every religion melt away when you can simply acknowledge all religions are man-made.

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    #17

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Religious people.

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    Enlee Jones
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of the most vile and bigoted people I have known would call themselves “good Christians” with a straight face. It seems like half the people I went to high school with wound up being ultra right-wing zealots who believe everything they read on Breibart.

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    #18

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group My dad had cancer for 10 years and then he passed away when I was 14 years old. I thought I was having a good heart to heart with my small group leader about it. She asked if my dad was "a man of God" because she wanted to make sure he isn't "burning in Hell" Who the f**k says that to a grieving child? So completely insensitive. It took me several months to fully realize the weight of that conversation with her before I left religion altogether.

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    Izzy Curer
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Setting aside the obvious reasons for why this was terrible, what, exactly, was the mf point in asking this? Let's assume for a moment that hell exists. What could be done about anything at that point? What could the kid do? What could the group person do? Nothing.

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    #19

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group My mother. She instilled some serious shame into me under the guise of God. Some things she said: -Not allowed to believe in Santa because that takes credit away from God. Santa was actually a hand of Satan trying to corrupt me -Not allowed to believe in the Easter Bunny because it was also a hand of Satan trying to corrupt me away from Jesus. -I wasn't allowed to feel pride in my accomplishments because it's a sin -I was a d**khead because my dad got me fully vaccinated as a child and that is against God's plan -Hollywood is operated by Satan so I wasn't allowed to watch movies or shows (especially Disney) -Harry Potter was an absolute no because witchcraft is an affront to God -Scientists should not be trusted under any circumstances -My rare genetic condition was part of God's plan and I'd understand some day -Not allowed to say "damn" because it's an affront to God -etc That combined with her regular, not religious abuse has left me struggling a lot with my religiosity.

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    Nathaniel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a horrible childhood, deprived of joy and happiness?

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    #20

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Sermons alternated between asking for money, telling us LGBT people were bad, or telling us we were all worthless sinners without God. Left church every Sunday feeling like s**t. One week, I just decided I'm not going back. I don't miss it.

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    #21

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group I was like 15 and playing an instrument in the “worship band” for the most popular “youth group” in the area (which is a verrry Christian area). At one point the pastor dude was praying and the musicians were behind him waiting to play when he was done. The whole room (200+) had their heads bowed as dude was praying. Then his prayer went into the whole “here’s what you pray if you want to become a Christian right now” yada yada yada.. then at the end he says “Ok everyone keep your heads bowed, eyes closed. Now if you just prayed that prayer with me I want you to look up - everyone else keep your heads bowed- but if you just now gave your life to Jesus look up at me or raise your hand so I can see you” I’m behind him, and facing the crowd who have their eyes closed so I decide it’s safe to take a peek. I discreetly look up and notice that exactly ZERO people in the crowd are looking up at him. Every single person still has their head bowed, eyes closed. (Which is fine, I mean maybe they were all already Christians?) However, as I’m looking at nobody responding, Mr Pastor starts saying “ok I see you there”, “oh I see another over there, Amen” “and you back there, praise god”. “Yes I see you over there, amen come find me afterwards”. It was perplexing to see him lie to so many people like that. And this wasn’t some nobody youth pastor, he was like quite legit having written books and being mentioned in national articles and stuff TLDR; an acclaimed youth pastor tried to make it seem like his prayer had converted several people, when I could clearly see it had not

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    Nikki Sevven
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always get a chuckle when I see Christian tattoos, since Leviticus strictly forbids them.

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    #22

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group The fact that there are multiple but I was taught that only ONE is correct

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    Nathaniel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fun fact. All religions cannot be right. However all religions can be wrong.

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    #23

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group The fact that if you're not in my religion, you're kinda f**ked in the afterlife. I didn't choose my religion, so what makes me so special?

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    K- THULU
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course condemning a non believer to hell is pretty well the same as condemning them to narnia or the magical world of oz. I'm not really scared of a made up destination...

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    #24

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group My parents pulling an exorcist on me. On their own. Screaming at me that I wasn’t their son but that there was a demon inside of me... And more but that is the main thing tbh that has made me more an ant-theist than just an atheist

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    Nathaniel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What had the child done to make the parents think an exorcism is needed?

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    #25

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Honestly having to go to church as a little kid. Felt like an endurance test every Sunday to just get through it. Like, dude I’m 6 I wanna play with my action figures or be outside or game. I don’t wanna fight the fidgets in the pew listening to adults breathy sing to tired hymns while I just want it to end so I can go be a kid on the weekend. Then as I got older all the obvious reasons you see everywhere, the contradictions, violence, stupidity etc

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    Who Panda 420
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They did make it really tough on children. Some Churches had fun Sunday School or catechism classes but then you had to sit through Mass afterward. It felt like the worst punishment to sit still and be quiet for so long.

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    #26

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group There was never an answer. I wanted to believe desperately. I wanted to and I begged God to allow me to be doubtless. I tried and tried and tried to make it work. To make it fit. I asked questions. I wondered. I pondered. I just got to a point where there were no more answers. No one had an answer that made sense. Nothing that the next person couldn’t alter or contradict. Nothing that was ‘set’ or ‘fixed.’ It was all up in the air and I just needed more faith. I tried. I really did. But my mind just won’t allow it anymore.

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    Foxxy (The Original)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's exactly how I feel. I ask a question, get answers but the answers end up giving me more questions. It just goes on and on and a lot of the time the answers don't make sense or just not logical etc.

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    #27

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Being told I was going to rot in hell every time I made a simple mistake

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    M O'Connell
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you get there before I do, save me a spot on the couch.

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    #28

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Having to confess my “sins” as a 10 year old.

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    M O'Connell
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Didn't you just make up random s**t? That's what I did. The penance was always the same, which made it even more funny.

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    #29

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Religious leaders ruined religion for me

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. Like the new Pope pretending to be modern as a way to gain followers but then refusing that women get any power in the catholic church (f*****g sexism) and calling people that have no children selfish.

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    #30

    30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group former catholic, current atheist here. i am fortunate enough to not have had any severely traumatic experiences involving the church. but, i grew up in the church and i used to love to sing the hymns. as i got older i started to realize what the words i was singing meant. i really didn’t like how some of the hymns/songs called us as people “nothing” compared to god. i don’t really agree with devaluing and trivializing ourselves and our problems as part of worship. that is what really did it.

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    Florence
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i agree, telling me i’m a worthless sinner compared to ThE lOvInG jEsUs ChRiSt really f****d with my already bad mental health

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