We currently have jobs that didn't exist 30, 20, or even 10 years ago. In fact, by one popular estimate, around 65% of children entering primary school today will ultimately end up working in a career that's not even on our radar yet.

Interested in the changes of the labor market, Redditor u/jaysmith007 asked other platform users last week, "What profession was once highly respected, but is now a complete joke?"
And people gave plenty of examples. From flight attendants to nurses, continue scrolling to check out those that have received the most upvotes.
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US President
Can't believe we had a Russian plant in office and there are brainwashed traitors that want him back in
I recently thought on how america was going in a good direction by electing Obama, I was a big fan of his work. Say, they just went back to silly old men afterwards.
Yes, the rest of the planet liked obama a lot... except I think maybe the couple of people that he permitted drone strikes on. But he was preferable to the other vile creatures that have been in office.
Load More Replies...I have to admit us people in Canada saw him as a massive joke but also a massive threat to the world in general. And we were right.
I am so pleased to see all these negative comments about the worst President, and one of the worst human beings that ever existed. And of course, the millions who elected , and still follow him, are criminally stupid.
I can't believe he is talking about running for office again.... that's terrifying.
It would be great for America again. Back to oil independence and a country that is actually feared
Load More Replies...How do you explain to your kids that this man tried to sabotage the United States of America
UK here , you guys need an IQ test BEFORE they become POTUS , not a dementia test a few years in....... MAN , WOMEN , CAMERA ,. PERSON , TV
I think Trump was an idiot and a stain, but you’re not exactly killin it over there in the leader department UK.
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Teaching. They get completely s**t on by the kids and the parents.
Absolutely. Sometimes parents meddle too much in their child's school life. It's ok to supervise what your child's been doing and whatnot, but for god's sake let the teachers handle how and what they teach in class. And I get it, there are some wacko teachers and they need a constant reminder of their job, but there are really good ones who have become so frustrated with all the nags! As if the school's pressure and the workload wasn't enough :(
Somehow teaching seems to have become customer service, with the parents being the customers. And believing they're always right.
All teachers do is the best they can. My school had a shooting today, where the principal and resource officer were shot, but even though kind of a chaotic situation the teachers handled it very well.
OMG, I live in the same city as you! I'm so sorry you kids had to go thru that, I was horrified when I saw the news this morning. I'm so grateful that there weren't more injuries & I'm praying for the injured. And I've seen the reports about how well the teachers handled the situation.Sending you hugs from the west side of town tonite, and Go Hawks 🤍💙🧡!
Load More Replies...It's not like the American school system is doing a good job in solving the situation
Might have to do with that horrible person that has been responsible for public schools from 2016 -2020 who HATES public schools and wants everyone (aka: the rich everyone) to private schools? I mean... wild idea, but it could be!
Load More Replies...My best friend is a teacher. I never realized how bad the job has gotten but parents these days are really ridiculous, they text her at all hours with the dumbest crap, their kids are not going to know how to handle their own problems as they mature. So much of her time is spent coddling all the sensitive children and if anyone gets punished she is sure there will be a meeting with the parent and the principal the next day.
So did I! It wasn‘t even a decision, the job made me really ill. I just had to go.
Load More Replies...Retired teacher here, 54, 5'5" female, and no one ever dared s**t on me, or they might have tried it ONCE, got told, got set some STRONG boundaries and limits, and told they could go take a long jump off a very short pier. Worked in a couple of states, half a dozen schools. People absolutely never have anything good to say about education, mostly due to their own insecurities that get projected outward. This is one of those times. The person who wrote this, I would bet good money, has NEVER and would never be behind the desk and speaking from experience. Twenty six years experience here. Sh*t free here. Don't believe bad hype from people who would not and could not do the job.
I teach the after-school program & omg do I see how teachers don't get the recognition they deserve! Being in a room with 20+ kids, some with adhd or behavior problems, for an entire day!
Nursing. Long hours, hard work, front line workers for dealing with annoying ass and insane people, the definition of “I don’t get paid enough for this s**t!” Edit: thank you for the awards! My first ones :)
This thread is about disrespecting professions. I don't know about all the other countries but here in Europe they get our respect. I will punch anyone in the face who disrespects these fantastic people.
Then pay us accordingly and stop overworking us. It's hard on your body and hard on your soul and psyche. I've been a nurse in Germany for decades now and I'm done, the job broke me and so many of my colleagues. Respect from patients is nice, but that's not enough to survive ever changing, understaffed shifts. They work us to the bone, guilt trip us into coming in sick and take double shifts for a salary you can't feed a family with, one of the reasons why so few men work in this profession. I don't know any nurse who hasn't been told she's only there to wipe asses and be a glorified waitress. We are literally at the front lines and being treated as cannon futter.
Load More Replies...See my comment under farmers. 30 years as a RN in a kid ICU. There would not be hospitals without nurses. Docs are always in an ICU and ED, but it's the nurses that generally tell the docs what's going on with patients. Excellent chance a nurse saved your life if you've ever been in a hospital and very sick
Can't upvote this enough! I'm a nurse and I really really love my profession and helping people, but sometimes it's really hard to put up with long exhausting hours, rude people, that think just because you're a nurse you don't know anything... It's hard
To be fair, a lot of nurses have turned their chosen profession into a joke. They forget they were required to have all up to date vaccinations, before doing any patient care. You can't spend a few years in a nursing program, learning science, only to turn your back on the same science you just learned. It's baffling. Also to the doctors, if you're spreading misinformation about a vaccine or virus, maybe doctoring isn't for you. You literally have an oath that says, do no harm!
I deal with nursing students at a college and half of them felt they didnt need to wear masks around each other, a Surgical mask is what you signed up for till you retire. one of them was even part of the trucker convoy. Should have been a fail right there, no graduation
Don't worry they'll get eaten alive once they reach the hospital. As a wise nurse once told me when I complained about nursing students at my old school, " it's okay, we will knock them down a few pegs, nurses are known for eating their young" so they might be jerks in school but that does not last once they hit the floor
Load More Replies...Thank you Wendy. There are a lot of people who do respect us, but generally here in South Africa we are called whores.....
Load More Replies...Definitely.. As an ex paramedic I can tell how tiny our salary is when compared to the risk, dedication, stress etc.
Disgusting to see signs all over a hospital saying "please don't abuse the nursing staff or doctors". My husband was in Emergency with a heart attack. Woman in next cubicle yelling, swearing and lashing out, as she was drunk. The noise was horrendous. For God's sake, control yourself with alcohol. 😡
Farmers. Agriculture used to be something everyone had to do. Now people don't give a second thought about where there food comes from.
My cousin runs half the county of Canola fields since his 30s and goes to Vegas or hawaii in the off season.
Load More Replies...All the farms were bought out by corporations. So all the "farm relief" type bills that some politicians try to paint as being small farmer-friendly are just another way to siphon money to their corporate fat cat friends.
Who needs farming, we got McDonald’s to survive (Trust me, I’m jokin, farmers are very important)
We need them badly - with the pandemic prices have gone through the roof but do the farmers make much - nope but the supermarkets are making one hell of a profit!
Hedge funds buying farms just because of "asset value" but not letting farmers work on them so it just empty plot of land. Meanwhile farmers struggling to buy more land to farm on due to sky-high prices.
In these current times, apparently a scientist.
There are too many scientists. On my Facebook wall alone, I have dozens of virologists, who have also just become specialists in wars and geopolitics.
I am a scientist, I know I do not understand politics well enough to make strong arguments but I do know wars are Wrong.
Load More Replies...Guys here's an interesting exercise. Read novels from the early 20th century and late 19th. Often the hero is a scientist. Then read novels or watch movies from later times. The hero is an average joe or an action man. Case in point. War of the worlds. The hero: originally a scientist. The 2005 version? Average joe is the hero. America fundamentally has become anti-science. In fact, since the whole Scopes trial.
And Republican lawmakers are trying to ban the teaching of evolution in some states, so as not to contradict christian beliefs. Mind-boggling.
Load More Replies...Scientists used to be well paid and have secure jobs, that's what's changed! Now you have people like Mayim Bialyk leaving science for acting because she needed medical insurance for her family, and the guy in my nursing school who left "the uncertain income" of a research science to be a nurse anesthetist. Too many scientists are treated like temp workers these days, constantly looking for the next paying gig and wondering how they'll ever get benefits.
When acting is a more secure and better paid job than science, it is indeed a strange world.
Load More Replies...Anyone who can think objectively and do math is the natural enemy of the Trump supporter and most Republican politicians, who rely heavily on public ignorance and stupidity to allow them to continue to rob everyone. So they viciously attack teachers, librarians, nurses, doctors, engineers, scientists, and anyone else with learning.
Yep, my shop floor colleague KNOWS FOR A FACT that Covid 'isn't real and is made up by terrorists' , telling a group of us this and one lad lost his Grandma along with 11 others in the Care Home due to Covid.
I really don't know how I have managed to get through the last couple of years without punching anyone in the snoot
Load More Replies...Back then, scientist was more than just someone with a degree. If you finished university, you're not immediately immune to sprouting b******t
Its the same now. No-one can claim to be a scientist simply for having a degree in a STEM subject. Its a professional position that involves conducting research, publishing findings, training other researchers and having proven impact. I think the problem is that the general public dont really understand what science is and what scientists actually do. The ethical scrutiny we are under is enormous, our pay is typically low (in exchange for a very rewarding and flexible job) and we are our own harshest critics (because publishing something and then being told you've made an elementary error is mortifying).
Load More Replies...Ask the dear leader who knows more about science than any scientist that ever lived, and more about medicine than any doctor that ever lived... OH and more about war than any general who ever lived and more about weather than any meteorologist that ever lived and more about business than any businessman who ever lived... ad nauseam. The biggliest, the bestest and he never fails or loses. Always the best... just ask him!
Journalist. It used to be a respected and necessary career, now, for more than one reason, it's lost almost all the respect it had.
… which is a shame because we really need proper journalism… the kind that seeks to uncover and lay bare the truth.
Journalism ideally should be: Report truth and reserve opinions and judgements for the readers/viewers and the op-ed page. Now it seems there is little separation between facts and opinions and only a token consideration for opposing views. This is why journalists are disrespected, they disrespect the views of half the audience.
Load More Replies...Yes, journalism as a profession lost all respect once journalists started spinning news to agree with their agenda, both on the right and on the left.
I believe journalism lost respect once the news went to 24 hours. That's a lot of time they have to fill up, so they began filling it up with opinions. Not good.
Load More Replies...They do! Usually, that's what they do. the media-concerns that pay them create the news.
Load More Replies...Yes but too often these days what passes for "journalism" is actually opinion and has no journalistic integrity and does not include facts at all ... looking at you TUCKER "JUST ASKING QUESTIONS" F*****G CARLSON
Philosopher. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle. Now if someone tells you they are a philosopher you probably assume they don’t have a job and do a lot of drugs.
A stand up philosopher is a better career path. I wonder who will get the reference?
I remember it from Mel Brooks' History of the World Part I. Dole Office Clerk: Occupation? ... Comicus: Stand-up philosopher. ... Dole Office Clerk: What? ... Comicus: Stand-up philosopher. I coalesce the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension. ... Dole Office Clerk: Oh, a bullshít artist! ... Comicus: [grumbles] ... Dole Office Clerk: Did you bullshít last week? ... Comicus: No. ... Dole Office Clerk: Did you *try* to bullshít last week? ... Comicus: Yes!
Load More Replies...Socrates was a teacher hired by the wealthy. Think private tutor. In fact, he was hired by.... Plato's family was wealthy. They paid Socrates to teach Plato. Plato retained the family money and used it to start an Academy. Aristotle's father was a Royal Physician. When he died he was taken care of by nobles and enrolled in Plato's school. He went on to teach others. At NO POINT was 'philosopher' considered a respected 'job'. Philosophy was a hobby, Teacher was a job.
"I pissed on the man who called me a dog. Why was he so surprised?" - Diogenes (obviously, Athenians loved him a lot).
Socrates was sentenced to death after being put on trial for corrupting the youth. He died by poison. That's not exactly respected.
I think philosophy should be taught in schools. It helps to teach you how to think. When I was in school, it was all about memorization for times tables in math. Names, dates, places for history, etc. You were pumped full of things to memorize but you were NEVER taught to think and when you were, you heard: "This isn't appropriate for your age/grade level", "This is something you'll learn in college", "See me after class", etc. When I was in school, it was billed as "basic learning" and college was touted as, "Teaching you how to think". I always thought, if you don't already know how to think in high school, you're f*ucked in college. This is why I LOVE philosophy, it helps teach you how to THINK.
Not even a job in my opinion - famous quotes or inspirational quotes are the closest we get now!!
What if you are legitimately a philosopher and do a lot of drugs, does that validate your argument or cast aspersions on the claim that conforming to a belief makes you less of a philosopher?
Old sages and all did drugs too, to see beyond. Sadly, current people aren't exactly responsible with drugs
Police, you would have to be crazy to join the force right now.
And the crazy people are joining, which is why police are disrespected.
Yes! In the US the standards are WAY too low....for someone to run around, unaccountable, with a gun. It's a major reason why bullies are attracted.
Load More Replies...It's infuriating that a large number of racist, perverted, sick individuals have ruined a great profession.
In India they are not racist. They are are made for the rich. You can pay your out of anything.
That's why many of them are the high school bullies. I think we should require more stringent training beforehand, licensing like nurses and pay people a decent wage for putting their life on the line for a disrespected job, TRUE ACCOUNTABILITY, and a national database which tracks problem officers so they don't get rehired in another precinct and in turn can't continue to abuse civilians.That would weed out a lot of the problem folk, but not all sadly. It really isn't easy to find a happy medium in a career such as that. There are numerous ways to address this situation but it would still take years of implementation and adjustments.
Carrying accountability insurance similar to malpractice insurance would weed out a LOT of the foolishness.
Load More Replies...The US police has one of the shortest periods of training in the developed world. That might be place to start reform.
Right. Some countries require a college degree, not here. HS Diploma or equivalent=hired. 500 hours of training, mostly weapons & zero hours on de-escalating the situation.
Load More Replies...This is only relevant to some countries. In the UK, in general, police do their best.
Sometimes but I take it you are not a POC. Totally different perspective.
Load More Replies...In the U.S. a lot of problem is wealthy elites making sure the police are unaccountable for their actions under any and all circumstances. The officials in charge of many departments are constantly "backing up their people" no matter how heinous their crimes and pretending to investigate when there is a crime committed by cops. Add in the "Patriot Act" allowing cops to seize and keep anything they feel like seizing and keeping, regardless of whether anyone is accused of a crime. And it's come to light that good cops are driven out of the job by their sick, corrupt colleagues if they ever speak up about what any other cop is doing, no matter how immoral. So this means that psychopathic sadists can do whatever they want whenever they want, and they're signing up in droves. Meaning that the public has very good reason to fear that the cop stopping them is one of these monsters.
Is US maybe but in Europe we still trust our well educated law enforcement.
Well… not explicitly. There are dirty cops everywhere, I should think - although when presented with the situation in for instance the US, I have nothing at all to complain about. When cops kill one single person here, it’s usually on national news and gets serious, heavy investigation. As of course it must, since someone lost their god damned life. So yes, I do trust the police as a whole - but they’re human and some bad, corrupt sh*t went down here as well. Basic trust, but not explicit trust.
Load More Replies...Or power hungry... which I suspect is the main reason many people become cops.
Priest for obvious reasons
They(the Catholic Church)did it to themselves by sweeping things under the rug and paying hush money for decades.
It's most evident and thankfully now talked about when it comes to the Catholic Church, but they're by far not the only ones.
Load More Replies...To be honest, priests used to enjoy a lot more respect than they deserved, and they still do. That's exactly what allowed them to hide the pedophilia for so long even though it wasn't that hidden to begin with. In most cases, a lot of people knew, but said nothing because that was a priest. They are human beings like other people, but are often treated with more respect and as if they were wiser than other people, just because they are priests.
Religious careers were never really trustworthy, messing with money and their own rules has been happening since the middle ages... Now that bubble defeniteky burst
Except that the church covered for the bad ones -- moved them to new locations where they could find new children to victimize. That makes them just as bad, if not worse. It would be different if all the offenders had been sent off to a 'special' monastery where they could never hurt anyone again, but no....
Load More Replies...Is priest considered a profession ? No jokes and no sarcasms ... just a genuine and pure question
No, professionals have regular supervision. These people don’t. Which is why they get to go off the rails so quickly and no one does anything.
Load More Replies...Priests, particularly Catholic ones have totally lost any moral authority they ever had to me. How they can possibly object the things like abortion after their own behaviour as individuals and as a church is totally beyond me.
I hate that this is on the list, but I get it. Any group where sexual predators would have an "in", they'll flock to. Priests, Pastors, Reverends, etc. Instead of kicking them out and holding them accountable for prosecution, they bury it. Same with schools, Boy/Girl Scouts, sports coaches, etc. Instead of weeding out the freaks, tossing them to the wolves for prosecution, they always say "No, no..." I don't get it. WEED. THEM. OUT. Toss them out, same with cops, firemen, etc. Get them out, weed your own fu*cking ranks.
An nuns, in my primary school they were the biggest bullies of young children. We were told they were the brides of Jesus, but is seemed being a bride but never having a honeymoon turned them mean.
A lot of people are going to say the Catholic Church, but well their right, we need to remember that this has happened in all religions. Those who are meant to be our shepherds have betrayed us.
My aunt crushed it as a travel agent in the '80s/'90s. The internet totally blindsided her
If you can get a really good one that does their research they are worth so much. Sadly most of them just book easy stuff so you might was well do it yourself.
I’ve been to them, found the price outrageous, so then went home and did it myself for nearly half the price at better quality flights and accommodation. Some of them haven’t even travelled OS!
Load More Replies...Going to Europe with my son in less than a week. Had an agent book my flights, they had a small fee. So far there has been 4 schedule changes from the airline that the agent fixed saving me many hours of sitting on hold. I know if there are issues on the return the agent will be there doing all the work while I continue to enjoy my vacation. I was stuck in Iceland during 911 and my agent kept in touch with updates like I was part of her family. Im sticking with her till she retires.
I hope you have a great time here with us in Europe!
Load More Replies...My dear friend owns a very successful travel agency. You've got to move with the times . She offers a lot of planned excursions for groups or families or single travelers . She usually goes to places and tries out everything available , then plans out the best things to try . She comes from money , so it's easier for her to do this of course . But you've got to adapt as the world changes
Lawyer.
I’m one and I’ve already heard all the jokes, thanks.
In the 19th century it really was a position of prestige. In the mid-20th century it meant Atticus Finch.
Now it’s just the equivalent of ambulance chaser in the minds of most people. And it’s too bad, because when you actually need one, you see what they genuinely do.
Lawyers are great, but you have to admit the big, blaring "I will sue anyone for you" billboards don't give a very nice look into the profession.
Read thebpickwick papers? Samuel weller?
Load More Replies...Lawyers have ensured that law and justice have become two completely different things. Because of them, there are now unjust laws that no longer have anything to do with justice, but have everything to do with legal mumbo jumbo.
Lawyers don’t pass laws. Look, there are plenty of shitty lawyers who will work the legal system to their clients’ benefit for the money. But I know two lawyers. One is in construction law, and he works hard to hold contractors and developers accountable, both environmentally and regarding code. The other is an environmental lawyer who works hard to hold corporations accountable to prevent them from or punish them for poisoning the environment.
Load More Replies...Lawyers are disgusting. They take money to protect crooks and the poor and oppressed cannot afford their services and have to accept substandard lawyers from the state, resulting in them losing their case every time to the rich prick who can afford a hotshot lawyer. They profit off the misery of others and charge rates which are outrageously high. In our country they are paid (I can't say "earn") regularly more than the president, regularly! Arrogant knowitalls who just have undergraduate degrees in memorising what the rules say and dogmatically applying them. I hate them passionately.
You sound like you haven't made great life decisions.
Load More Replies...Nope, still hate them even then. Doesn't matter what happened, doesn't matter who's right or wrong, lawyers are NEVER on your side. They only care about the money, not about truth and justice.
Load More Replies...Mine did nothing. Proof of that is my separation agreement was not drawn in my favor. As well, when I pointed out a blatantly obvious clause that was not in my favor (If I Iive with a man 6 weeks, this voids alimony payments to me), "my lawer" said, "I didn't see that." One depends on their lawyer to look after their best interests. My ex had two lawyers working for him. His lawyer and my lawyer.
I worked in law offices, for over 25 years. In my experience, I can attest to the fact that I came upon only TWO lawyers were ethical and fair. The others put more emphasis on on their billable hours and the reputation of the firm, much to the detriment of clients. One of the lawyers, for whom I worked, received a frantic phone call from a distraught client, whose husband had beaten her so badly that she spent 10 days in the hospital. She called to say that he was being released from jail and that he said that he was coming to kill her. My attorney boss asked, "How much does she owe me?" When I told him, he said, "She'll have to pay the balance, before I will help her." Most of the others were like him.
" ... when you actually need one, you either cannot afford one or it will ruin you for the rest of your life" Corrected that for you.
News media, regardless of their "slant." We've gone from Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite to talking heads and sound bites. Kids today won't believe that back in the day somebody came on TV or the radio and told you the who, what, where, when, why and how- and you were expected to make your own mind about it. Yes, there were editorial/opinion sections, but they were separate from the news reporting. And "journalistic integrity" is filed away somewhere with buggy whips and vacuum tubes.
Tucker Carlson is the the embodiment of what wrong with the news
not just fox msnbc cnn abc all of them put their opinions and bias and call it news.
Load More Replies...I read a study done nationally that showed the media had less credibility with the public than Congress. And it was all done by marketing. Murrow warned about mixing marketing and journalism. And he was right. All of today's news is really run by marketers who are out for ratings.
This might be only true in USA. Here we have quite a range of media sources and their owners are well-known so you know what their "slant" will be. There's not just this fox/vs/cnn vibe. For example, newspapers I consult about 5-6 on our local news and generally the range of commentary is the same on the facts, with opinion pieces clearly marked. Obviously in dictatorships there's official news and nothing else, but not here. We also have indepdendent providers who are not censored etc. (in fact we don't censor).
I was thinking that too. In Australia we have two really good, impartial, news sources on our government supported channels. On commercial tv you know the news and current affairs shows need to be taken with a grain (or bucket load) of salt but there are people that like that. It depends what you are looking for in your news source.
Load More Replies...It's because of the advent of the 24-hour a day news channels. It used to be that there was a news cast a few times a day and a newspaper. Now they need to find fluff to fill all that air time with!
This is also responsible for the lack of respect for journalists and scientists, among others! When our news presentations stopped being genuinely unbiased (or as close as possible) to labeled unbiased but truly biased, sensational and fear mongering, we started to buy the idea that everyone's opinions on every topic are equally valid, regardless of experience and expertise. It's ironic that these sleazy infotainers are the ones who are trusted and they've turned the average citizen against the unbiased reporters and against experts. Think for yourself-- yes, absolutely!! But also learn to gauge the reliability of sources and think critically. So many people lack critical thinking skills and training in logic, and they are praised for it by theose who stand to gain the most by it.
Fox News is the propaganda wing of evangelical white supremacists and will ultimately be a force in destroying Democracy
Human Resources. I get it, the protect the company and not the employee, but over the last 20 years that scale has tipped so far that modern HR practices are barely legal and usually unethical.
I emailed my HR lady last week. I know she’s insanely busy but I got no reply, so I asked her if she received it. She said, very irritably: “oh, no, we never read your emails.” 🙃 not sure why I deserve that cause I only email them like 3 times a year about tiny routine things that I’m required to do. I unfortunately told her to her face “weird flex but okay” and she didn’t like that 😂 (pray for me)
It depends. We have a great HR person at work who really fights for our rights.
HR at my previous job was super awesome, beyond helpful! And he showed me how to work loopholes in the paper work so I get the best of what I could. :) I'm in animal health care so I think we are a different breed, our HR dealt with more 'inter staff' issues and our head of HR started off at the company as the lowest of the lower as a ward/kennel attended that was basically a glorified janitor.
Load More Replies...I discovered that the man that hired me twice, in 2 very different jobs, was in fact related to me. Our great-grandfathers were brothers, and his father and mine were best friends back in Indiana.
In my day they were called personnel managers most were shitheads and from what I hear nothing has changed!
Critic, for the most part. It used to be that to be taken seriously as a critic, you had to have some accomplishments in the field you were critiquing, to show that your opinion on the subject was worth some value. Somewhere along the way, the position devolved to "any as***le with an opinion is a critic". It has fallen even further in the internet age, with "critics" giving obviously stupid "hot takes" just so their name can be spread out among the media.
In other words, the person with the biggest, rudest mouth is considered a "critic".
The critic “could actually be a 300 pound dude who lives in his momma's basement in suburban Detroit. And her name is Chuck."
300 pound dude.. and her name is chuck? Sorry if i sound rude, its probably a typo, but how is a dude using her pronouns ;-;
Load More Replies...Ramsay is just an ásshole though. At least during his show and in my opinion.
It’s an act. Watch him on any interview or Master Chef Kids.
Load More Replies...Critic today = Entitled Influencer with zero life skills and minimal education.
These days any mouth breather with a wide enough pie hole can call themselves an "influencer".
No professions seem to be respected these days. Respect went away roughly 10-15 years ago.
Dinosaur trainers get no respect until someone see them doing their job. Then they get a huge amount of respect.
Load More Replies...Billionaire always seems to get respect. I should have gone to school for that, but no
It mirrors the rise of the internet. The more easy it became to google things, the less people had respect for experts. They figured they can get the same information in a quick search as someone who spent their entire career studying a single subject.
I think it's about the Internet and people's ability to find information for themselves. They realised a lot of jobs are now obsolete. Also with social media people learned that many respected individuals are just frauds, are bad at their jobs or have the jobs only because they were born rich rather than because they are smart and work hard.
Load More Replies...I think Doctors must feel like this. Now all their patients have self diagnosed from the internet and think they know it all from a quick google search.
Agreed lol people have gotten lazy and just want everything done for them,l
Respect goes away because the parents in the last 20 years have not taught respect to their children. It’s not the schools job to teach your child respect for others, it’s the parents job.
There definitely has been a shift.. I remember when my teenagers were in primary school and they knew theirs teachers first names. That information was top secret when I was a kid, and you’d never dare ask. Only doctors or lawyers drove a Mercedes, Jaguar or BMW, now even pensioners and provisional drivers get around in them.
School principal. Teachers who fail in the classroom flee to administration because they're too heavily invested to quit and start a new career. Of those, the ones with high ambition, low self-awareness, and weak personal character tend to fail upwards by parroting trendy buzzwords and supporting failed pedagogy. You'll meet the odd unicorn, but most principals are incompetent at everything except camouflaging their incompetence behind buzzwords and task-offloading.
In the Netherlands incompetent principals won't make it for an entire year. They have so many authorities to answer to that their incompetence won't go unnoticed. An average Dutch primary school has a budget of a million Euros of tax money, so authorities are very keen on making sure that the money doesn't go to waste because of bad management.
I was bullied hard all through middle school. The principal's solution after three years of physical and emotional abuse was to have me and my main bully burn a lunch period filling out a "conflict resolution form".
I had a principal who collected wacky ties, dressed up in a superhero costume on days that ended in a zero and called himself "Zero the Hero" (I think that was it, it's been too many years since he was my principal) and he was my favorite principal out of all of the ones that cycled through my school 🙂
THIS!!!! The teachers aren’t the cog in the wheel causing the problems. Well, not always. There are those driven to make decision based on their ego and that’s a common factor. But it’s the admin that creates pandering policy.
Chef. My dad was a chef and in his day you could have your pick of jobs. Literally walk out of a restaurant and into another by the end of the day. People respected them and allowed creative and financial freedom. Now I work as a chef and I constantly have to answer to people ( managers, waitresses etc ) who have absolutely 0 culinary experience. The pay is sh**ty, the hours are ridiculous it's about 3 decades behind in terms of workers rights. This goes double for smaller places like non-chain bars and restaurants. They know that theirs always another chef looking for a new gig and often have no problems treating chefs like absolute dogs**t.
That sounds awful. Not helped by a*****e celebrity chefs that give the impression that all chefs are entitled, arrogant dickheads allowed to throw tantrums and abuse people.
I divorced my hubs because he was an exec chef. I helped him get through culinary school, supported us while he worked part time in school, he bounced ideas off of me, etc. Total 1000% support. Then he started to make a name for himself and I couldn't take it anymore. 17 years of NO vacations, NO weekends off, working every single holiday, anniversary, and birthday. Sitting at the bar on your birthday all alone and waiting for him to come and give me a kiss is not my idea of fun. After 10 years of sitting at the bar alone, I stopped going. Then I had another 7 years of every night alone except for Sunday nights. When I left him, he had a girlfriend with 2 weeks and had moved in with her. It was one of the desperate older women who hit on all of the busboys and bartenders and we used to mock them. Whatever, knock yourself out dude.
Uncle is a top chef and according to him it's long hours, crap pay and drugs are rife, particularly speed.
I really hope that the above depiction of "classy presentation" dies aborning. Wooden salad bowls are one thing, chunks of log are another. What a waste.
I wouldn't want to eat off of a tree trunk. What a stupid reason to cut down a tree.
Load More Replies...Not a joke. Get a great one and its wonderful. Sadly too many of them are far too overworked and underpaid. At least in the US. Hopefully better in Europe.
My man is a cook (there are no chefs where I live) and he's worked at just about every restaurant in this town. The one he's at now actually sees his worth (finally someone does) and he's actually getting good pay.
Air hostess- Once the symbol of glamor now its like a joke
My husband is an airline steward for one of the major airlines. People that fly have become rude, abusive, confrontational, physically attack staff, defy and ignore rules
Don't think it's a joke. Am not sure where this is coming from. Sure it's not as glamorous as it was in the early 1960s, but I don't remember a lot of demeaning talk about aircraft attendants. Unlike the "glamour" days, passengers and aircrew can't sexually harrass them anymore without consequence. And you didn't used to go to jail for doing or saying things the hostess didn't like.
We are called flight attendants and we are flight crew in charge of safety - if your plane is crashing, you realize we do a lot more than serve sodas.
Boosting this comment. I’ve been watching the Mentour Pilot on YouTube explaining various air disasters, and he gives high praise to flight attendants as being a valuable part of the flight crew as a whole.
Load More Replies...We are flight attendants and can evacuate planes during emergencies. Our primary job is safety not serving sodas.
Boosting this comment. People need to aware that offering snacks and drinks is not your primary purpose while onboard. Though hopefully we never need to see your primary purpose in action.
Load More Replies...If you think that all flight attendants do it stand around, hand out drinks and smile while they jet off to exotic locations, then you really need to talk to some actual flight attendants.
Spinster. In the middle ages, it was a respected career which could keep a woman financially independent and secure. She worked damn hard and had to be physically strong and good with money. And a spinster could choose to be in a relationship, but it wasn't imperative for her survival. Nowadays it's just become a term for middle aged or older single women and the fact it used to be a respected job title has been all but forgotten.
They were called spinsters because they worked spinning wool, if anyone's confused.
Thank you, Katie. I was really confused, I googled it and only got that's an unmarried woman
Load More Replies...That's not true. Spinning was not a profession in the middle ages. It wasn't something that could earn you enough to keep you alive, but side work done mainly by peasants in winter.
Yeah, spinning was not a profession, it was usually unpaid gruntwork given to the lowest-ranking female in the family home. That's how it worked, unmarried women were always deliberately given the worst jobs as a form of social pressure to encourage marriage, because obviously given financial independence or the freedom to choose, some women won't want to marry. This was considered a bad thing, back in the days of patriarchy.
Load More Replies...Spinsters were adult unmarried female family members who generally lived with family helping to care for parents, children, etc. When they weren't busy in the kitchen or nursery or sick room.... they had small jobs... knitting, spinning, sewing, darning... they had to earn their keep with work rather than money. 18th and 19th century when families still had to provide for themselves.... clothing, food, etc.
Not true. Spinster's, many of them still lived at home to care for family, and had no chance for a life of their own. Most were pitied or ridiculed.
And how is it spinster, old maid, etc is used when speaking of a woman gets used and bachelor, playboy or distinguished gentleman player is j how men get defined?
I'm still trying to figure out what your post means. A spinster was never a career. It was a societal construct for a woman, of a certain age, who was not married.
Milkman, now they are just everyones secret father.
This is BS. My MILs milkman turned out to be an excellent plumber. Radiator burst and what we thought was a little drip was pouring water into the outside porch. He managed to get it isolated before I managed to get there! He is an absolute star in my book!
I really was The Milkman's Daughter. My younger brother's the Insurance man's son! Lol, Dad changed professions a lot.
In the UK milkmen have started to appear again! They must have been in hibernation :P
My dad was a milkman for years started out with a horse and wagon, you just took enough milk in a carrier to do 2-3 houses and the horse would meet you at he last house! In some places had to go in the house and put it in fridge but usually it was just on the step or milk box!
You used to be able to leave your money on the window sill for the milkman. Then the local louts got wind of the free monies.
I wanted to say politician but they have always been hated the more I think about it
Do royals count? They were once honorable leaders, now either dictators or useless fools
They've pretty much always been dictators or useless fools. That's why smart people in some countries overthrew some.
Load More Replies...I live in the US, and I have become utterly, completely disgusted with all politicians. Lying, self-serving, the lot of them. The people who should have power are the people who don't really want it - those who actually might work on behalf of the people they're meant to serve.
I agree--Power Corrupts. The more power you have, the more morally corrupt you are.
Load More Replies...That's sad, really. Of course there's always corruption in power - sadly, it's human nature. But there are still good, honest politicians who truly want the best for their people, but they have to fight against competition with more influence and more money and battling idiots in congress and senate and whereveer they gather to make decisions and slowly, they either turn on their 'eff-it-switch' or become corrupted. Accountability would help - and also voters who don't fall for pretty lies and big campaign-posters with nothing to back it up.
President of russia
There's a difference between being respected and towing the company line, for fear of being shot. 🤔
This is an unfair generalization which implies that pretty much all presidents of the USA were highly moral people!
Load More Replies...Pig Putin is the twenty first version of Hitler. But I'm sure Trump is a close second
World is more obsessed with Trump who just says crazy shyt….while this dumbfuk actually does crazy shyt and everyone is just mum.
what do you mean everyone is just mum, are you out of your mind? did you not notice the 148 state UN resolution against him???
Load More Replies...For me personally, doctor. I used to hold them in high regard until I started working with them. Most are lazy, greedy and do not know a single thing outside of medicine. Some don't even know medicine!
I only respect a doctor if they show respect for me. I'll acknowledge their expertise, I'm not questioning that. As soon as they try to tell me what I'm able to sense in my body or what my life is like with a disability they can piss off. I don't know what life is like in their body why assume they know what it's like in mine? Keeping me as healthy as possible is a mutual endeavour. Respect goes both ways.
I was told by my doctor that I wasn’t eligible for a covid test even though I BEGGED because it was the worst “cold” I’d had in over a decade and I could barely breathe, coughing everywhere and a fever. Went back to work as soon as fever was over for 24 hours and I “felt well enough,” (symptoms were mostly gone, just a sore throat and cough which he said was fine) just like he told me to, and I ended up infecting 6 people with covid. They in turn infected at least 12 other people. I got CHILDREN sick ffs. Called the national nurses hotline and they admonished me for not getting a covid test before I went back to work. Super confusing and shitty and I feel like the worst person for not using my own judgement.
Load More Replies...I find that more doctor's are really just "practicing" medicine rather than knowing medicine. As a diabetic, I get a lot of "here try this and we will see how it works." Which is hard for me because even if you have insurance, diabetes medicine cost a lot of money still.
Consider emigrating to another country? USA is notorious for diabetes medicine prices. It's about $5 here.
Load More Replies...Warning: turns into a vent I have lost almost all respect for doctors, except for literally 2, my audiologist and GI. Those are pretty much the only helpful doctors I’ve seen, the others are just “try this. Oh it didn’t work, let’s refer you to this other specialist,” and repeat until the last referral can’t help and doesn’t refer you again. Sometimes it takes months, sometimes it takes years. Still haven’t figured out 90% of my issues, and I’ve been going to specialists for literally ages. Sorry for the vent.
My doctor knows that I trained as a medical assistant in the early 90s. I was unable to certify though because I became very ill and I'm now on disability . Whenever I talk to my doctor she will always ask me what I think it is and then she will tell me whether I'm right or wrong and why. She explains everything to me in terms that I can understand and she lets me give her my opinion.I respect her greatly for that. The clinic I use has a lot of old school doctors and I really like that. Other clinics in the area are filled with young twits that don't know an x-ray machine from MRI machine.
Not their fault though. They are thorough trained in anatomy, physiology, pharmacology, and diseases. Somewhere along the line, medical schools dropped the part of the curriculum that says that patients are human beings and know their own bodies quite well, (well - some of them, anyway). Bedside manner would make a good course, too.
Load More Replies...I still respect doctors (I am one). Here it's easier if you just ask which university they were at. Some are better than others.
That is true, but some people are just shitty at their jobs. Some people start out great and burn out and others don't adapt well from the educational experience of competing for grades to competing with themselves to be the best physicians they can be for their patients. There are definitely schools that (from experience) I look for when choosing a new doctor- mostly schools I know to avoid, but a name-brand school is no guarantee. I got my PhD at Vanderbilt Medical school and was alongside several MD and MDPhD students. Some of them were brilliant and cared about doing their best to help people and others should never have made it into med school to begin with. You have to trust your doctor and find a new one of you don't like your level of care. That's really hard to do in some countries and under some healthcare plans.
Load More Replies...3 of my cousins are Doctors. All asshats. Part of the problem is some of the publics tendency to put them on pedestals. They are humans like everyone else
Once told a doctor that I was firing him. The look on his face was priceless. It's a job, your not a god.
My former doctor told me my pneumonia was just a cold and to just drink tea with honey... Until I demanded that ahe writes that in my record. Who knew if you make them accountable they'll send you to get your blood tested
Musicians that played dynamite saxophone solos in rock and roll songs.
NRRR NRRR NRRR NRR NR NRRRRR like that one. (Baker Street I think?)
Load More Replies...Born to Run, Baker Street, Moondance... heck I'd even add Careless whisper by George Michael.
Cut it down to "musicians". Autotune, computers, vocoders and synthesizers changed the music industry. Now Rhianna records a fart and a sound technician processes into her latest hit.
What about the poor harpsichord players? And hurdy-gurdys? No respect for them either
Check out Apocalypse Orchestra, they have a member that plays the hurdy-gurdy and bagpipes
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Elevator attendants. Once revered engineers capable of lifting humans hundreds of feet in the air. Now a comedic relic of a by gone era.
This is the only one on the list that actually fits the descriptoin of this list.
The description is of jobs that are now disrespected. The elevator attendant is not disrespected, he's extinct. It happens. New careers appear as old ones evaporate, no disrespect intended.
Load More Replies...That happens a lot with bygone jobs, you don't remember exactly what they did, you just remember them for being liftboys with funny clothes
A long time ago, you actually had to "operate" an elevator. That attendant knew how. There weren't just buttons to push.
Its' my understanding that elevator attendants once went on a very wide-scale strike to get higher wages. Only for building owners to find out that automating the elevators would be cheaper than meeting those demands.
There are still elevator attendants in a few buildings in the UK, but only from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday. They are hired so that Jewish lift users don't have to break Shabbat rules to operate the lift. Before anyone says anything about taking the stairs, some of these observant folk are elderly or less mobile.
As a child i remember the elevator attendant would announce the merchandise for sale on each floor in department stores.
Human Computers' to do mathematical calculations.
They might not get used as much anymore, but since when did mathematicians lose respect?
I agree - that they're no longer needed doesn't mean that people stopped respecting them.
Load More Replies...Agree- some of the most important and brilliant mathematicians on recent history were women and minorities. It has only been in recent years that people have made an effort to make their names and contributions known, and there is a huge movement to prevent the inclusion of their stories in history books and in the zeitgeist.
Load More Replies...My grandma knew around 10 phone numbers by heart. And those were all the folks we knew who had a telephone :)
Whatever happened to the piece of our brain that used to hold all the phone numbers?
Load More Replies...There is an entire generation that does not know how to do mental mathematical calculations. This "trait" will continue, as technology continues to take over human tasks that increase mental capabilities.
Optician. Back in the day, if you were an old-school Optician you knew absolutely everything about complicated prescription issues, making glasses, grinding lenses, manufacturing a complete set of glasses yourself from your own lab in the back of the store. Nowadays it’s mostly 20 yr old idiots who take a cr**py little express program to certify themselves as ‘Opticians’ , but all orders are sent to an outside lab to be made. If you have a problem with your glasses, 90% of these ‘opticians’ have no idea how to solve your problem. It’s also now essentially just a glorified salesperson job.
Source: Im an ex-optician who’s biggest mistake in life so far was wasting years on that sh**ty low-paying “career”
Always struggled with the fact that 90% of the script I end up with is dependent on my own unqualified interpretation of “which is clearer, this one…or this one”
Whom else's interpretation of which is clearer, should they use????
Load More Replies...Optician for 20+ years and my biggest regret is going to retail. I thought I had it rough in private practice but nothing prepared me for this. Every day I am just astounded by the level of stupidity of the general public. Buy your glasses online get your exam online please don't come to me when you have problems! My services are not free. I am not a sales person. I have years of education and experience. Sometimes I feel like a joke due to the way I am treated.
My grandfather got off the ship in 1945 and worked as an optician for 50+ years. He was happy with it.
When I was a kid, going to the optometrist ment we had to dreß up in our best clothes. It was a very formal event that required an appointment set up months ahead of time. This was in the 80's.
There are three types of "eye" professions. An Opthalmologist - a medical doctor and surgeon who deals with eye issues. They do not deal with getting your glasses. An Optometrist - can still be titled Dr., as it is a post-graduate profession and requires specialist knowledge. They check out your eyes right back to the retina to see if there are any issues ahead. Then the Optician - strictly vision tests and getting your glasses.
Load More Replies...I guess that once again has to do with machines to do the difficult parts
Agreed, it's really hard to find an opthomologist to see for your routine check ups now
When I’m looking at two blurry objects, how the hell can I tell which one is clearer?
Translators used to be members of royal courts, but are now full-on taken advantage of by agencies who know nothing about the industry, but hold all the clients. They often expect people with B.A.s, M.A.s, multiple certifications, and decades of experience to work for very low pay
Or people who think google is a capable translator and just want you to tweak what google shat out a little for pennies.
And people who wants to translate a book they wrote (maybe 80,000-90,000 words and you send the quote, they say that they expected to pay $200-300...
Load More Replies...Oops! I'm a translator... There are good agencies, good translators and good clients, reliable people who know the industry. And there are also shitty agencies, shitty clients and shitty translators. So, there are different leagues, the same that you can find in web developping or graphic design.
I admire translators; there is so much work, nuance and cultural context that goes into a good translation. And simultaneous interpretations are a whole other story. Especially if the grammatical structure of the languages are opposite and the speakers talk in long sentences.
Load More Replies...All the translators have to do is refuse to work for that low pay period of every translator across the country unionized, and said we’re not going to work for under $50 an hour, then people would pay $50 an hour for a translator. It is supply and demand, when the demand is needed the supply needs to be there.
Not to mention translation programs which, in my language can translate grilled chicken as chicken translate or "wc at the end of the corridor" as "the wc is advanced" or "the wc is in the future". Computer translations cost nothing whereas a wrong translation can shame your company and cost you thousands in a tender or a contract.
I honestly didnot expect to laugh at so many funny translations. They usually make my day. How could I otherwise read about a female's circumambulating a bank counter in the annual financial statement of a well known bank.
Load More Replies...Or left in Afghanistan to fend for themselves as targets of the Taliban to murdered
Possibly because there are now more people who are capable of functioning as a translator? Back in the days of royal courts the world was considerable smaller and people who actually knew multiple languages were few.
There are degrees of knowing or speaking a language. I wander how multilingual people will do in translating an insurance policy from their mother tangue into their mother tangue let alone into a different language.
Load More Replies...Nope, translators work in Court houses and dont need anything other than knowing languages.
you also need to understand what you are saying that means if you are translating (or interpreting) at a court you need to know also a little bit of law. you cannot translate word by word or it will not make any sense. you need to translate the meaning. similarly in all other branches. it is not "just know the language" we are not dictionaries
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My friends Dad was a pretty successful ad salesman for yellowpages. After no one needed phone books anymore and he cheated on his wife and had 2 divorces, and bought a purple harley with a dragon on it, he then became a seller of funeral packages...
Sounds to me like evolution. Your environment changes, you have to adapt... or die.
True. There are still people protesting changing to renewable power because of the miners that would lose their jobs but surely they can transfer skills to a new field when they need to.
Load More Replies...That's.. something (I also kept reading it as he bought a purple dragon)
Bet no one has seen a salesman for encyclopedias in a billion years. Bakery trucks, guys with ponies door to door for photos with kids, trick or treaters.
no - people were luddites and did not adapt. The first home computer and BBS system I used was in 1983. Internet replacing the yellow pages was around 1998. That gave these old bastards 15 years to get with the programme.
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Alchemist
It was in Nicholas Flamel’s day too. He had a long career as an alchemist. :)
Load More Replies...Because we know you cant make Gold from lead, and they also sell snake oil
Read an article a while ago that said with modern technology we can make gold from lead, but it would cost more than the gold to do it!
Load More Replies...No thats the other side, like a Naturopath thinking they are a Doctor
Load More Replies...alchemy was originally how one changes their own personality for the better- then someone mistranslated and thought it was turning stuff into gold
That's not true. It was really more about serious metallurgy with a mystic coating and less about makig gold. Many aristocrats who had mines in their countries employed alchemists for that reason. This was unknown until some decades ago.
Load More Replies...Models - seems like anyone with a camera and a social media account can call themselves one now.
That's one I'm not that sad about, I hate influencers and stuff but at least they make their own decisions more, instead of being in a ridiculously toxic, unhealthy industry
Influencers are the toxic industry selling people stuff they don't need, setting unreasonable beauty standards that no one can live up to and promoting fake lives of luxury and glitter and glamour funded by parasitizing on hard working business owners. They are low lives, too lazy to do some honest work.
Load More Replies...They dont get respect, you dont get to take credit for winning the Looks lottery
They don't need the looks. Photoshopped. Virtually everything. I saw a commercial the other day and the 'model' was hideous, so much filler, looked nothing at all like the usual printed/shopped to the nintieth degree image. Sad really.
Load More Replies...I would've said photographers instead of models (and if that's on this list later i apologize). People used to have to go to school for it, or study and immerse themselves in it, put hours, days, years of time into it. Nowadays any fool with a camera thinks they're a professional photographer.
yes, the beauty industry went from "be your best self" to "heres some unhealthy bs so we can make money"
Clowns were seen as funny back then, but now everyone is terrified of them
When clowns come up I always ask. If you happened upon a clown in a back alley somewhere, would you be terrified? Unabashedly yes. There's just something "off" about clowns
I recently met someone who loves clowns. We were all surprised that was still a thing.
I don’t quite understand why so many people are scared of clowns. Yes, I read IT.
John Wayne Gacy- another fantastic real-life reason to be afraid of clowns.
Load More Replies...Journalists and News Anchors (at least in America) While there are still a great deal of respectable news outlets, a lot of respect for the industry has been lost because of those who are simply mouthpieces to the corporate propaganda machine. Most major news networks and publishers have put profits over journalism, turned the news cycle into 24-hour theater, and caused untold damage to our collective mindset. They hire charismatic anchors and manipulative writers to try and make the readers and watchers believe whatever will bring the most profits and help those in power the most.
I saw a CNN commercial showing how they are covering the Russia/Ukraine stuff and they were damn near giddy to have something so big to talk about. It disgusted me. These aren't just countries at war. These are PEOPLE!!!!
I saw that it was a bit cringey, I'm sure the last thing those people want is a camera in their face.
Load More Replies...On top of the non-corporate "journalists" who do nothing but create click-bait or promote themselves as "influencers"
This is really america only. We have several news channels controlled by different groups with different interests. The state news channel only makes very bland claims and almost never spews anything close to propaganda. Our newspapers also. We have an active journalist community who aims specifically to find corrupt politicians etc. Check out amaBungane and Daily Maverick for example. We take freedom of the press really seriously.
Singer. They just use autotune with no real skil
Wrong Pas. Today’s popular singers aren’t singers they’re SCREAMERS !
Depends on the singer. I think Floor Jansen is highly respected and it's deserved.
I don’t like modern pop music that much but hey, just let it evolve naturally. It’s just evolving and changing just like language and culture.
Just because you need and like them doesn't mean they're respectable, many singers do use auto-tune to cover up the skill they are missing.
Load More Replies...Lawyers are both loved and hated. Notice how parents are proud to say their child grew up to be a lawyer. How prestigious! But then when, as a society, we talk about "slimy money grubbers" lawyers get lumped in to that group not uncommonly.
Witches. Or Magicians.
I'd love to know when witches were predominantly respected. Maybe in fantasy novels.
Pretty much in pre-Christian societies I guess, witches were who you'd go to for medical and mystical help.
Load More Replies...When were they respected? There's a difference between tarot reader, oracle, magician, witch and Wiccan Magick.
They allowed muggles in their schools, that's the problem.
we have witches and magicians here called Sangomas. However, the level of respect they receive depends on race. White people consider them mere witches (as in not really doctors) but our African people take them seriously. Also, we don't (africans) distinguish medicine and witches as much as white people do. There's a doctor (white) who gives you pills, and there's a Sangoma who does other things as well like remove curses etc. Not that I beleive any of this, but many people do. So the generalisation of lack of respect - yah, in the west, I suppose?
Radio DJ. Even in small cities, the dj’s were well known. Today, there is still some level of fame in large cities (the morning drive time team), but radio is dying….
I'm sick of these 'shock jocks' that thinks it's funny to put people in harm's way to increase their listening audience.
In the 90s, I was listening in on a radio show that was giving away tickets to people who called in and agreed to do a dare to win the tickets. They dared this one woman to take her top off in the middle of downtown. She did. She got arrested for indecent exposure. It made the local news. It was too long ago to dig up on the internet. But I did hear about it later.
Load More Replies...Radio dj are really annoying. Interrupting songs, commenting any kind of bs... and completely ruining music by adding sound efects. I don't really think dj was ever a respected "profession"
My mom would always be shouting at the radio SHUT UP whenever the djs yapped through her favourite songs. People would record songs off the radio and that was well-known. I wonder if they are required to interfere to prevent people from ripping off the song. Youtube has the same the same rules for those who want to use copyrighted content. That's why music react channels pause the music every few seconds.
Load More Replies...I left after 8 years in 2011 when NPR “ate” my independent college station and we replaced great people playing great music with canned programs and talk. I do notice that my old market (Charlotte/Gastonia/Rock Hill) has dropped from 13 then to 22 now so I guess I’m not the only one that left and didn’t look back.
I would actually pay cash money to see that documentary.
Load More Replies...Here, there are still a number of well-known radio djs, but most are rude and unfunny
Royalty
Anyone who reads gossip mags or knows who in hollyood is married to whom, understands the infatutation. There's even a satire song about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V-KkS8P0gg
Load More Replies...I don't think they were ever respected. People just showed enough respect to not lose their head, literally.
Congressman
Astrologer
Back in the day they were respected scammers you could look up at the sky and say “the tongue of Gekoquatal has appeared! The harvest is going to be a success!” And the would believe you.
Load More Replies...I think they served a similar role to therapists— giving generic advice and comfort based on random things they’ve made up that will actually apply to everyone.
What, they were once actually respected? Next you’ll be telling me hey we’re once believed too !
Anything in the corporate media
Commercial Pilot. Back in the day, a pilot was a man's man with great pay. Today the regional carriers pay less than a minimum wage job at 40 hours a week. Just to get to that point a person must spend years of time building or fast track by spending a fortune.
I don't know about this. I know a pilot who flies for one of the bigger airlines. They get paid well.
My son is a regional pilot and loves it--and it's a stepping stone to the major airlines. The uniform still makes for respect.
Probably pilot Once second only to astronauts, now just glorified bus driver.
Last I heard it was almost impossible to make a living as a pilot, they don't get enough flying hours to survive on and it's hard to even keep enough flying hours to maintain qualification.
Please don't compare bus drivers to modern pilots. Bus drivers must keep their minds both on the road as well as all of the passengers. Modern pilots are just lazy bums that sit on their backsides and do absolutely nothing for well over 90% of the time while the plane runs itself.
Just because much of flight is computerized to take the load off of the pilots doesn't mean they don't still know how to fly stick & rudder.
IT support
Was never fully "respected" IMHO. Been at it for almost 30 years now. For many folks the whole computer/internet is black magic and they are very much afraid of it. But they still need need tech for their jobs, and now their entertainment and social structures. The mindset of the average IT person is " hey that's neat!" and "I can fix that for you"; we generally focus on solving the problems but get impatient with those who don't understand tech or created the problem. IT support SHOULD have been a trade, like electrician. Instead it fell somewhere between a science and a profession, but with a huge number of serious hobbiests to skew the labor pool. Apple did not help with the arrogantly named *genius* bar. FY Jobs.
Yeah. We got screamed at a lot. But 99% of the time, it was because they depended so heavily on IT to do their jobs (taking care of very sick people). We were usually able to validate and defuse and get to the issues. Healthcare systems in big organizations are incredibly complex, with the primary patient care record having hooks to dozens of ancillary systems. Any one of those smaller ancillary systems can fail and cripple the big one, if not killing it outright. Redundancy can take you only so far.
No, most people are really really really really really stupid and desperately need IT support all the time. Only smarter people actually can cope. I've had people I thought were smart ask me for help figuring out something on iOS. iOS FFS. Not linux, not BSD, not solaris. iOS. jesukristu.
Load More Replies...Journalist. I still remember wanting to study journalism in college back in the early 90. I wanted to be the next Hunter S. Thompson (I definitely did enough hallucinogens) and in high school I had several short stories and articles published in a very niche tabletop gaming magazine that was distributed internationally. My life took a different turn and I'm glad it did. Nowadays there's no such thing as a respected journalist. They're all basically shills who seem like they need to hustle for every dime they make because thanks to the internet anyone can be a "journalist".
Journalists ruined their business themselves. People get it when you write about an 18 year old black man and the 19 year old white boy that attacked him or about the 17 year old woman that was raped by the 22 year old teenager.
Chief Information Officer; in the 1990s that was a very prestigious position in a company. It showed the street that the company took technology seriously. Now, if you work in a business where tech isn't the product, your CIO or SVP of Tech reports to the Chief Financial Officer. Most times it isn't a strategic C-level job. You watch the budget and look to outsource as much as possible. Try to be aligned with the business, who really doesn't want anything to do with you other than what you can give them for less money. Rough gig.
One corporation I worked in, I know the CIO was completely handicapped by the fact his colleagues didn't want to hear or understand how technology affects the company and what the technological needs were, saying that was all to hard to understand. And even told him to never say big technical words like "computer". In other words, they were a bunch of morons. That corporation is a slim shadow of its former self now, though -- all thanks to technological competition they were too incompetent to deal with.
I read in a computing trade magazine a few years ago that the average tenure of a CIO or CTO is less than 18 months and most were fired or otherwise removed from their position. It is very difficult to lead in technology and plan a five or ten year roadmap with years long run ups when tech changes so fast. If you guess wrong, you are gone.
Anything in retail (mostly food shops) I often hear people saying to their children if they don't do well in school then they will work at "tesco" for the rest of their lives. But in reality people in retail usually do it as a waiting ground or to fund other projects. For instance I do it to fund my films whilst I learn how to drive.
Believe it or not, some people want to work in retail. They enjoy certain aspects such as merchandise displaying, organizing, they actually like the products and get a discount on them. I used to think waitstaff were just doing it to get themselves through college or rank up in the restaurant business. I asked a girl at a restaurant what she wanted to be (I believe there was more leading up to this question but I can't remember what), and she surprised me by saying a waitress. I didn't know this was a career goal. It gave me a new perspective that it's okay for any job to be a career goal if that's what you enjoy doing. Money can't be about everything.
It does have a reputation for being where people work while waiting for or working for something better. But there's also nothing wrong with working retail as a career. There are chances to move up. Many times the upper management in places like that worked their way up. And sometimes people just want to stick with what they know and they're good at. They don't need to pay college loans. They don't have to go out and battle for the "good jobs". They make a paycheck, pay their bills, and they're happy. Nothing wrong with that.
Shop worker is a respectable and imporyant job, but now they just have the reputation for being places where talentless idiots go to
I know at least two people who made a life out of working in grocery stores. Most people just want to go to work and then leave it there when they get home, you can do that for the most part in retail. It leaves time for the things that matter in life like friends, family, hobbies, etc. Or as my buddy used to say "frayed cuffs over frayed nerves any day".
Umbrella repairman. We had one in our town years ago
Depends on the town you live in. We still have a vacuum repairman and I see his shop full of older models of vacuums. You could probably still by a Kerby from him.
Load More Replies...i had an umbrella once and it turned inside out the first time being used.
Me too and it was a $40.one. I bought a $4. one two years ago and it's held up through multiple rain and gale-force wind storms.
Load More Replies...The town crier
Today a town crier would be assaulted for announcing news that was offensive to someone in the crowd.
Everyone in the crowd. Once the crier gave the cautionary advices to the crowd there would be no time left for the main event.
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Jester. In the olden times they used to be entertainers, housekeepers, comedians and yardsmen to kings and nobles. They had to empty the toilets and entertain the king while he took a dump.
Journalist and talk show hosts certainly foot this bill.
Load More Replies...I feel like the Air Force soldiers are made fun of because 'their work isn't holding a gun on the ground,' and feel like they only ever do work when there's a war and they need to fly planes. This is absolute bulls***t. More air force soldiers work with the space division, control satellites, do mapping, fly planes (yes) but not just during a war. They safely transport important politicians to necessary meetings. Their lives are high risk out there too. They are not to be demonetized just because they aren't out on the fields holding a gun. In fact, they do that kind of training too in case their plane gets shot on and they survive.
Military pilots being less respected than infantry soldiers? In which country?
The US Coast Guard. They have the most dangerous roles in the military in times of peace and the single most dangerous position at any time, rescue diver, but they are still the punchline of the US Armed Services. That includes the Space Force.
Getting shot down in a plane sounds beyond terrifying. Since wars have been so eminent lately, I don't know how anyone can decide to join any division of the military. lol Imagine everyone in the world quit the army and the governments had 0 minions to fight their wars and the governments would have to go to each other's parliament buildings and fight amongst each other in a designated "war" ring.
Policeman in Germany... Used to be highly respected and popular among people. No the situation is different. Police forces had and still have problems with too many old officers retiring and not enough young people starting to work that profession. So they decided to lower "job entry requirements" which leads to complete idiots joining police academy
The real problem is that our government bashes the police force when- and wherever they can. The criminals are often better protected than the cops. If they control or arrest the wrong person they get called Nazis, when they get beaten up by the Antifa they are the ones that provoked them... guess why nobody wants to do that job anymore
Bard
Court jesters . You know, like all the people that were in trump’s administration.
Pharmacist.
Yeah... once they made every medicament... now they are only labs salesmen
NOPE derpy, they wont give you anything the Dr doesnt say so. They do sell the water "medicine" I know you love.
Load More Replies...Mail man. To clarify I was a mail man for a bit and liked the job sometimes but all the old timers used to tell me the job isn’t what it used to be. Used to have to take a standardized test to get in for one. Also the increase in e-commerce made delivering all the mail in a reasonable time in our office an impossible task.
In the Netherlands they used to check your credentials when you applied for the job. Now any fool or criminal can be a mailman and they are trusted with delivering your bank statements, credit cards and all kinds of official and important mail.
Same problem with milkmen, they starred in way too much cheap jokes ajd stories
The bigger problem is that they are not needed. I might get a first class letter once a month. My packages come from UPS or FedEx. My mailman does the work of 12 year olds - deliver flyers
Newspaper Journalists With the death of print media, Journalism has died as well. Ultimately it has also killed the attention span as well.
holy f*****g s**t bored panda i get it journalists arent respected pick something new for christs sake
Elected official
Because it turns out that every elected official does the opposite of what they promised they would do after the elections.
Door to door salesman — just not a thing anymore for safety and practical reasons
A respectable nuissance, isntead.
Load More Replies...I have a "No Soliciting" sign on my front door. Don't even knock. I'm not interested in whatever it is.
No one respected salesmen. They were always viewed as con artists and liars.
Soldier, police officer. I became a soldier but I can remember when I was a kid how all I wanted was to be a bike cop. That changed ricky f**kin tick quick.
I think all trades at some point have a hey day. But once they hit the headlines for being well paid and the market gets flooded by people jumping on the bandwagon. This then leads to companies being able to recruit people for less. The IT industry is a classic example. People are now doing the job of 4 people for less than the wages one person earnt 30 years ago. Add to that there has been a massive decrease in loyalty from companies towards employees which gets returned in like.
Solider and cop's job is to inflict misery on the poor. Neither are admirable. Yes, they were once respected, but women and poor people were also more oppressed in the past. A soldier's job is to either stop warmongers entering or to inflict the will of warmongers on weaker countries, e.g. ukraine, iraq, iran, afghanistan, syria, vietnam, cambodia, laos, native americans, etc. A cop's job is to protect the property of the rich from "theft" ie redistribution of the wealth, to the poor, who are only poor because of the artificially created human economy that needs slave labour as cleaners, miners, waiters, etc. Cop and soldier are both fascists, inherently, and exist because of structural violence in our society. Feel free to downvote but this is a fact. While one can respect a soldier defending one's country they're only necessary because of fascists elsewhere.
I'm a painter (went to school, study hard the old masters, learnt the antique methods of making paints and varnishes from scratch), and every time I tell anyone I'm a painter they ask me "yeah, but I mean, what's your job? Painting it's just a hobby" 🙃
They forgot to say: stockbrokers (aka gamblers), and bankers (aka robbers).
I've seen alot of posts where you s**t on anyone who made smart life choices.
Load More Replies...I'm a painter (went to school, study hard the old masters, learnt the antique methods of making paints and varnishes from scratch), and every time I tell anyone I'm a painter they ask me "yeah, but I mean, what's your job? Painting it's just a hobby" 🙃
They forgot to say: stockbrokers (aka gamblers), and bankers (aka robbers).
I've seen alot of posts where you s**t on anyone who made smart life choices.
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