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Google "how to save money" and you'll get 3,740,000,000 results, promising you will be able to save up for any purchase if you just give them a click and scroll through their ads. Oops, I mean, text. Move over Jerome Powell, nowadays even teenage TikTokers are experts on macro and micro economy. Or are they?

The members of the subreddit Poverty Finance: Personal Finance For The Financially Challenged don't think so. And when you look at their content, it becomes pretty difficult to disagree with them. These Redditors share actual financial advice, frugality tips, stories, opportunities, and general guidance for people who are struggling financially. Oh, and they also torch pseudo financial gurus, burning their out-of-touch content to a crisp. My favorite.

So this time, as an introduction to the online community, we'll focus on the jokes and memes they've collected since getting together in 2018.

#1

Being Poor Is A Choice? If You Play By The Rules You'll Be Safe? Really? Tell That To Him

Being Poor Is A Choice? If You Play By The Rules You'll Be Safe? Really? Tell That To Him

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A huge part of this community's charm is its inclusivity. "Much of the financial advice online and on Reddit is aimed at people who have varying degrees of disposable income, ability to invest, lots of free time, available transportation, no kids, a partner, access to credit, and beyond," the people running the subreddit write in its 'About' section.

"This is a place for people who do not have a lot, nor ideal circumstances, to help each other get by and hopefully move up in the world."

#3

What A Lot Of "Frugal Bloggers" Don't Realize

What A Lot Of "Frugal Bloggers" Don't Realize

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Alex Luiz
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So true! Every time I read an article about saving money, I am already doing all of those things because I am poor.

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As of this publication, it has 847K members and if you relate to Poverty Finance's content, we suggest you join them too. "You do not have to be absolutely destitute to be here. Whether you are a single parent only pulling 10K a year, or a single person trying to get past student loans at 28K, you are welcome here," the moderators say.

"The goal here is to help anyone who doesn't have a lot of breathing room get to a place where they have stability, comfort, contingency, and maybe even a little luxury."

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#4

So True It Hurts

So True It Hurts

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Ivana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We picked a credit union because we made it clear that if we don't have the money, we wanted to be declined. No bank would agree to that but we found a credit union that promised they would not if we signed up for the overdraft protection. They got rid of it a year later without telling us, my husband was 50 cents short and our credit union allowed the cable company to try to run the payment 3 times in one day, meaning 3 overdraft fees of $32 for being 50 cents short. My husband gave a very impassioned speech in the lobby, about how they were their to protect our money and they had left us exposed, etc. Told them that our money was better protected in our mattress. The manager came out, agreed with my husbands logic and set us up a line of credit so if we don't have the funds in our account, it pulls from the line of credit automatically. No overdraft fees in 10 years. Highly recommend if you can find a bank who will set that up for you.

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#5

Just A Holiday Reminder

Just A Holiday Reminder

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's how I think about unnecessary purchases. "Well, this coat will cost me three days work", or renting a movie will cost five minutes work, or and a possible vacation will cost two weeks work or whatever. Thinking about whether an item is worth the amount of work put into buying it really puts things into perspective!

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We contacted the moderator team and one of them was kind enough to spare their morning break for us. Regarding the content on the subreddit, they told Bored Panda: "There are fewer themes and more cyclical subject matters that come up depending upon the time of the year and the current economic and social ongoings. Right this moment, questions about housing, the moratoriums, how to get an apartment with low credit, or whether even buying a house is within the budget of those who fit within the national and international descriptions of low income/poverty line."

As an example, the moderator took us back a few months ago when there were many questions regarding the Emergency Broadband Benefit program issued by the government. But with fall fast approaching, they think the subreddit will soon see questions about how to get supplies for students and questions on how to qualify for free or reduced lunches at school."

#6

Had A Good Laugh At This

Had A Good Laugh At This

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Love this! I think I'll go out today and invest in some avocados. I finished my last investment (bananas), and want a change now.

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#7

*Sad Noises*

*Sad Noises*

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TmKhr
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is exactly my situation. Rent is almost 900e/month. If I somehow managed to save 4000-6000e, I could ask for a loan at the bank and buy a nice place at 120k. And pay that 500e or something a month for 25 years. But I can't save much because my pay is 1900e / month and over half goes to rent and bills.

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"Once we approach November to December, we will be fielding questions with regards to worries about being able to afford gifts for their children, how to survive the holidays if you are economically disadvantaged," they continued. "Year-round common subject matters tend to be where to find the resources for food, someone to handhold or direct on how to apply for SNAP/EBT, Section 8 Housing, the hardships of just existing in society this day and age and just looking for some emotional support from their economic peers."

According to the moderator, their community is mostly composed of those who have or are currently experiencing poverty. "Whether it's [someone who faces] generational poverty, long-term poverty, short-term poverty, or self-identify as low income for their various regions. We have those who have made it out and into the middle class but are still dealing with the after-effects of having experienced poverty short or long term and the problems that that in and of itself brings."

#8

Financial Health Is The Best Form Of Therapy

Financial Health Is The Best Form Of Therapy

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Jo Johannsen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy food, housing, heat, clothing....

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#9

Can Anyone Explain Where My Starbucks Money Is Going?

Can Anyone Explain Where My Starbucks Money Is Going?

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Michelle M
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not drinking enough coffee. You could be a billionaire when you're high on caffeine. Infact, you could be anything.

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Certified financial planner and frequent contributor to Forbes, Jeff Rose, agrees that there is no shortage of bad financial advice in this world. Rose finds it especially troubling when some of them become so widely spread, so championed, that people actually start blindly following them. The financial planner believes the most harmful tips are: 1. Never use credit cards; 2. Don't waste money on conveniences; 3. All debt is bad; 4. Getting a tax refund is bad; 5. Always get the 401k match; 6. Your home is your most valuable asset. Click here if you want to read Rose's thoughts on each point.

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Talking about bad financial advice, the moderator of Poverty Finance thinks it has to do less with authors and influencers being out of touch and more with the fact that one size rarely fits all. "More and more people gain access to technology that's being developed to give the everyman more access over their finances and their financial future," they explained. "Things that were previously thought to be the purview of just the upper class or left to the financial professionals who knew better."

But they wonder if it can also be a sign of gatekeeping: "Oh, you're poor? Then you have no need for financial advice, it won't benefit you or the maintenance costs made what amount you wanted to add in, too costly and pointless. You can't come up with 10k to open an investment account? They don't want to deal with you. Salary jobs usually come with a 401k, hourly jobs at McDonald's and the like generally do not, and so you're left on your own to figure it out because no one will help you."

The good thing is that technology might be starting to bridge that. "People realize that there are far more low-income and middle-income individuals with a willingness and ability to put away ten, twenty, a hundred, five hundred a month into an account. Who care about not having to work once they hit sixty-five. A neglected and overlooked economic subset who have a significant buying power en mass. But the advice isn't there from the usual places because their advice only works for the upper income. For the gross amounts of money vs the smaller amounts," the moderator added.

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#12

I Know Many Of Us Are Taking Responsibility For Our Part, But...

I Know Many Of Us Are Taking Responsibility For Our Part, But...

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Andy Acceber
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The lie that all poor people are poor because they're "bad with money" needs to die.

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Scagsy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh dear, you're dying of a terrible disease. You want a cure?! Best I can do is this pamphlet on how to avoid terrible diseases.

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KMill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can we also talk about the other side of the equation? Things shouldn’t COST so much. Can we get lower prices please? Raising minimum wage just leads to raised prices, so maybe let’s also lower the cost of living a bit.

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Devon Wadkins
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

we need something to control price hikes when wages go up. businesses(Corporate, not small) should pull that money from their asses not ours.

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Mewton’s Third Paw
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s really no benefit for employers to even pay poverty wage anyway. You’ll end up with the most stressed out employees whose lives are out of whack and you can’t find anyone else because being that poor creates a ton of other problems. If you give people a decent enough wage then they’ll be better prepared to work and you can do more of whatever the fuçk it is you do. Where I live I couldn’t pay anyone less than like $18 an hour, for my own benefit, and theirs too. And that’s for the part-time pretty much relax and do nothing job. You’re wasting money and ruining productivity if you’re paying poverty wage.

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Mazer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Decent wage is that cover basic cost of living is wonderful, But if we don’t have healthcare that’s affordable and accessible to everybody it’s not gonna matter how much money you bring in if you get injured. The healthcare system is going to suck up every cent you ever saved, And if you can’t afford to pay for that healthcare system you’re going to lose everything anyway. Especially if you can’t work after an injury or an accident. So be thankful you have a job and then take care of yourself so you can continue working

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yellowphantom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Absolutely. I saved money for years and then lost it all to medical costs when 2 of my kids got seriously ill. By then I was old enough that age discrimination kicked in and I have not even been offered an interview for regular work for years.You don't hear much about age discrimination on BP because most of you are clearly very young (and by very young, I mean in your 30's or younger), but believe me, it is the most pervasive and unchallengeable employment discrimination out there.

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Rissie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This. You need breathing space before you can plan ahead.

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Catherine Spencer-Mills
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Been there. The lecture started with: If you start saving $1000 at age 17, you will have $y by age x. Sure, anyone can save $1000 at age 17. What planet are you on?

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Druth Vlodovic
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Forced to use the self checkout at the grocery store the other day. I got thinking, if raising the minimum wage had as big an impact on prices as they say I should have demanded 80% off on my purchases.

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Mona Vine
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Absolutely right, I have twice had financial experts come to help me sort out why my husband could not pay his tax bill, only to tell me there was nothing he could change about the way I did the budgeting as I was making a better job of it than he could. They waived the tax bill.

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Johann Glocke
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up to junkie parents, living in poverty, social programs, the works. I worked a "poverty wage" job and got my degree later in life. My brothers who grew up in the SAME situation are destitute and dead from drugs. Being poor is a CHOICE. I own an amazing house next to the golf course and drive $50,000 cars. BY MY CHOICE I refused to not get out of poverty, no one helped me or gave me higher wages for the same work.

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KC Lancaster
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are amazingly lucky and driven, and I congratulate you on your achievement! If the accumulation of wealth icons is your only goal, it's much easier to achieve that than if you have multiple life goals. It's not a judgement, merely an observation. But I wonder what you had to sacrifice to obtain that level of success. Are you debt-free? Do you work several jobs? How is your life/work balance? Do you have your own spouse/children you also take care of? Do they have medical insurance? So many factors can make it difficult for anyone to achieve what you have - congratulations on making it happen!

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DKS 001
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to work at a very, very well off fast food place (global franchises). Their solution to surviving on the pay you got was to get welfare and food stamps

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KC Lancaster
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are plenty of foodservice managers who shamelessly recommend to their staff to get food stamps and welfare to supplement their terrible income to stop them complaining about the ridiculously low wages.

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Neil Bidle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You raise all minimum wages, and prices will go up, it will not help, it will just put more people into the poor category. You need to take the money out of management, IT, accountants, consultants, and any other overpaid sectors and use those savings to lower prices. Problem is that if you do that, the rich people either hide their wealth better, or go somewhere else and not all rich people are horrible, many are talented and hard working and are needed for society.

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Jay Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is stopping a poverty wage worker from improving their wage? Are we all to assume that a person is going to make minimum wage their entire life, without ever improving their situation? Minimum wage is for minimum skills and experience. Get some skills and experience! If you make minimum wage, you can do it for free at local community colleges. Learn to weld, or drive a forklift or machinery. Learn a trade, and within 10 years you can make 100k a year.

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Linda Harvey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked starting at 14 years of age through high school (honors graduate with some scholarships) through college to get the degree my counselors led me too... decent starting job wages, and then companies starting trimming benefits, which are a part of your compensation package, but getting promoted as a married woman of child bearing age is a bigger push. If you don't believe women make less - you really should. In the accounting department, running payroll and AP, I found out that my predecessor, a man my age without a degree had been making over 20% more because 'he had a family'. He was married to a full time worker, they were D***s. I was married to a full time worker and we had a 5 year old and an 8 year old. I stepped up in my job position each time. My husband works in sheet metal and can repair and reprogram the machines he and other departments work on. Our wages have been basically stagnant for years, because costs move up faster and benefits decrease.

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Manny_Flawz
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get rid of federal minimum wage, and require each state to enact its own, based on a percentage of rental (1 bed apt.). This way all parties have a stake, rather than just businesses.

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#13

It’s Not That Hard

It’s Not That Hard

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am devastated with guilt that I wasn't born to rich parents. What was I thinking?!?

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But the reality is a bit worrying. Financial literacy — defined as the knowledge and understanding of areas related to personal finance, money, and investing — has been in decline. In 2009, 42% of respondents were able to answer four or more questions correctly in a five-question survey on fundamental concepts of economics and personal finance. By 2018 this dropped 8 percentage points to 34%. What's even more alarming, less than one-third of adults understand three basic financial literacy topics by age 40, although many important financial decisions are made decades earlier.

Under such circumstances, (online) communities like this one might be doing society more good than we can imagine.

#14

Money Saving Tip!

Money Saving Tip!

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are not everywhere.Distance costs money but the peace and books are worth more than anything. *sighs

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#16

To Be Honest

To Be Honest

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Konpat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I come from a poor family and I am affluent now in my adult life. Boy is it fantastic to be able to buy stuff spontaneously without checking your account first! It's just such a huge relieve to not have sorrows about your financial situation. Makes a World of a difference.

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#23

Overdraft Fees Cripple People Already Struggling Financially

Overdraft Fees Cripple People Already Struggling Financially

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#24

It Never Ends

It Never Ends

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kjorn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yeah... they're always people who says cut down your holidays, your trip, your eating out to save money... damn... i don't do any of those things where can i cut???

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#25

Well, It's Technically A Phone Number...

Well, It's Technically A Phone Number...

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#26

It’s Almost Offensive, Right?

It’s Almost Offensive, Right?

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Trex
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do companies ask people who have significantly less $ than said company to donate? Donate your $ big companies.

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Big Poverty

Big Poverty

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John Topper
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course there is. Nothing easier than taking advantage of someone who can't afford to fight back. It's the socioeconomic equivalent of beating up crippled people.

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Finally Figured It Out

Finally Figured It Out

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DE Ray
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My work took out a life insurance policy on me because I was "so valuable to the company". It was for seven times what they paid me annually.

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#30

It’s Fine, I Didn’t Want To Have Fun Anyway

It’s Fine, I Didn’t Want To Have Fun Anyway

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Vorknkx
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And even if there is no engine ot check, something else will always pop up... like a mysterious new pain in a body part that used to work fine before.

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Oof

Oof

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Vasana Phong
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well if you want to look on the bright side of things, we poor folks are always ready for that struggle battle, and come out of it alive until the next one comes along

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#34

Save Half Your Paycheck, Regardless Of Whatever Else You Have To Pay For, Regardless Of What You Earn, I Guess

Save Half Your Paycheck, Regardless Of Whatever Else You Have To Pay For, Regardless Of What You Earn, I Guess

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Ozacoter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lets see. I earn 0 euros a month and need to spend minimum 90 euros/m for insurance, plus food, medicines, doctors and other expenses. How much will I have if I save -100 euros a month?

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#35

And It Also Doesn't Have Debt

And It Also Doesn't Have Debt

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Andrew Gibb
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pigeon breast cooked in a herb and cracked pepper butter, with a red wine and plum sauce reduction on a bed of sorrel leaves. And $20 to spend on drugs and alcohol.

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#36

Two Ways

Two Ways

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Alex Luiz
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have just been able to retrain for a job that will pay me more, with a government grant and £10 000 of debt. I mean, I worked hard, but essentially I paid for a qualification in order to earn slightly more money, which I will now spend several years of my life working off. I do wonder if it was worth it.

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#37

This Hit Me Hard

This Hit Me Hard

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Rebekah Krause
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YES. Double if you have a sibling doing better than you, that your parents like better, but you’re still the retirement plan.

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#39

"Poor People Are Just Bad At Saving Money"

"Poor People Are Just Bad At Saving Money"

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So True

So True

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Katia Wolfe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are only houses in this price range in some states. Definitely not California!

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