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Fellas, is it feminine to respect others?

What makes someone a “real man” is up for debate. Is it having an expensive car? Being great at football? Spending your weekends fishing and drinking beer? Or looking down on artists, vegetarians and anyone else who hasn’t pumped their veins full of toxic masculinity?

We all know clinging onto rigid, outdated ideas of what it means to be a man is ridiculous. Well, most of us know that. But for some reason, there are still people out there trying to gatekeep masculinity, so today, we’re calling them out. From making up rules about what kinds of cars men are allowed to have to claiming that guys aren’t allowed to take naps (We all get sleepy, don’t we?!), down below, we’ve gathered some of the most arbitrary restrictions placed upon men that have been shared in Gatekeeping subreddit

Be sure to upvote the posts you find most absurd, and don’t forget to press the button hard and fast. Just like a real man would! Then, if you’re interested in reading another Bored Panda article highlighting how ridiculous toxic masculinity is, check out this story next!

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Yeah Screw Modern Safety Regulations!! I'd Rather Die An Unrecognizable Heap Of Flesh Tangled In A 2 Ton Machine Than Risk My Masculinity Being Questioned!

Yeah Screw Modern Safety Regulations!! I'd Rather Die An Unrecognizable Heap Of Flesh Tangled In A 2 Ton Machine Than Risk My Masculinity Being Questioned!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also like a "real man" you won't know what killed you as you don't clean your windows.

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Nobody likes to be placed in a box. But unfortunately, society loves to put everyone in boxes. Men might have more privilege than women in many places, but that doesn’t make them immune to the harm of toxic masculinity. The idea that a woman must be a certain way works in the opposite direction as well. Men are expected to be strong, take up space, be unafraid of anything, be unemotional and apparently, they’re not allowed to enjoy self-care or anything relaxing. We know that guys are just as capable as women of being sensitive, emotional, artistic, and loving, but some people seem to ignore that idea and equate masculinity with loud cars that pollute the earth and eating mass quantities of meat.

My partner self identifies as a “soy boy” because we don’t eat meat, and instead eat a lot of tofu and tempeh, but this phrase has been used as an insult by many men who seem to be a bit less confident in their masculinity. The idea that eating soy products makes someone less of a man or that it lowers testosterone levels (it doesn't) is just one of the arbitrary beliefs placed on men to try to keep them in a box and narrow the definition of masculinity. This list is full of similar examples, so we hope you get a kick out of reading them, but it’s also a bit painful to realize that some people actually posted these ideas unironically…

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You Simply Cannot Be Jacked And Smart At The Same Time. It Doesn't Work That Way

You Simply Cannot Be Jacked And Smart At The Same Time. It Doesn't Work That Way

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Gatekeeping Masculinity As It Relates To... Car Features

Gatekeeping Masculinity As It Relates To... Car Features

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Now, don’t get me wrong. I hope it goes without saying that it is perfectly fine to be a guy who really does love football, cars, fishing, drinking beers, fixing cars, eating steak and working out. Plenty of people enjoy these things, regardless of their gender! But the point is that we have to understand that these are not gender-specific interests. Plenty of women know how to fix up a car, and plenty of guys don’t. That doesn’t change their gender identity one bit. And we can’t look down on anyone else who doesn’t share the same interests we do. We’re all free to choose how we like to spend our time, but deciding to expend energy shaming others is just a waste of time.

Just like strict gender roles and expectations can have a negative impact on women, the same can be said for men. Toxic masculinity is often used to perpetuate ideas such as “boys will be boys”, allowing boys and men to get away with inappropriate behavior because that’s just how they are! They can’t help it! The pressure to look and act a certain way can also have devastating effects on the mental health of boys and men. When they’re taught they can’t share their emotions or open up, it’s easy for their internal struggles to go unnoticed and unaddressed.  

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Why Drive A Small, Affordable, Efficient Car When Bigger = Betterer ??

Why Drive A Small, Affordable, Efficient Car When Bigger = Betterer ??

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James016
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Running costs, efficiency, easier to park, easier to navigate traffic. Where do I begin?

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My Masculinity Is Defined By My Inability To Read

My Masculinity Is Defined By My Inability To Read

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Loud Cars Are The Peak Of Masculinity

Loud Cars Are The Peak Of Masculinity

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“Men tend to keep so much bottled up inside. This includes all the traumas and heart-breaking moments. Eventually there has to be a release. And too often that is in an explosive way,” says Ron Blake, a social justice activist and public speaker. When men aren’t taught how to express their emotions, they can become overwhelmed easily when they don’t know what to do with their feelings. This can lead to expressions of physical violence, such as sexual violence, domestic abuse, gun violence or physical dominance. When kept on the inside, these undealt feelings often manifest in depression, addiction or even suicide. It’s dangerous for everyone to impose rigid views of masculinity.

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Napping Is A Female Thing

Napping Is A Female Thing

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my dad, who has been happily married to my mom for thirty years, just went to the bedroom take a nap. poor mom's in for a surprise when he comes out

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Apparently How You Eat Your Steak Determines Your Level Of Masculinity

Apparently How You Eat Your Steak Determines Your Level Of Masculinity

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Serial pacifist
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just bite on live cattle grazing. Tarzan is how hardware store employees refer to me.

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Ok Boomer

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Shane
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can't "tune up" a modern fossil fuel car without proprietary software and equipment.

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Smilodon, a Bad Cat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wrong. My '04 Pontiac/Holden GTO would crush that lil Camaro. I've put my hands on all the mechanics and electronics, including forcing the factory computer to accept the 7.0L (427cid) replacement engine and putting that engine in the car, mating it with the factory Tremec 6spd by way of a tricksy multidisc clutch and lightweight flywheel- oh, and all the power accessories, windows, locks, trunk opener, alarms, mirrors- work as the factory intended. The aftermarket Wilwood slotted 4wheel disc brakes, 6 piston front/4 piston rear caliper units work just fine controlled by the original GM antilock brake computer. 11.89 @ 119mph in the quarter mile at Brainerd International Raceway on the street Goodyears, through the mufflers, me rowing the gears. GPS/radar 147mph, tire limited taking the Grand Forks to Fargo run three years in a row. Average speed 96+/- mph. Shane, when you don't know what you're talking about, the best option is silence.

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Paulo Freitas
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yea another thing that should be mandatory for getting a drivers licence, know how to check your car's fluids, brakes and Change a tire, minor things that any One can do, and can actually save your life in some cases...

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Smilodon, a Bad Cat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. Paulo, I wish this could be made law. Thanks for your understanding. I'd bet you have a nice, well cared for car. Good on ya, mate!

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Nicola Koh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if youre spending every weekend fixing your car, doesnt that probably mean you're a s****y driver, mechanic, and/or both?

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Smilodon, a Bad Cat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. It means you have a hobby you love, kinda like you and snarky disrespect, Nikki.

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Rick B.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I take my car to a mechanic so I can have time to game👍

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Smilodon, a Bad Cat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Knowing one's limitations is the key to a happy life. I'm my own mechanic, because I game Forza and Grand Prix and GTA in real life. 140mph with your a*s in a chair flicking fingers IS NOT equal to 140mph on a track or the real street. Don't lie to yourself. There's a huge difference in your game and mine.

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StrangeOne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nah men did the upper until their kids were old enough to wash the car every weekend.

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CG
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because video games can be cheaper than a car and some parts depending on the car? I just did a search on local stores in my area (a Canadian Tire and a Game Stop). Cheapest tire I could find was $66.99 per tire, and if you need all four, that comes out to $267.96. Ontarian taxes (13%) make a set of tires easily go over $300. The average new video game (standard edition) is between $79.99 to $89.99 before taxes, or $90.39 to $101.69 after taxes. I could buy three video games, and in theory, still spend less than a set of tires.

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Smilodon, a Bad Cat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And that game will take you where? Store? No. Grammas house? No. Job interviews? No. Well, my experience with gamers is that they tend to live off of others, and think jobs are for losers. Surprising how many gamers are in their 30s and still live with their parents. But a good set of tires on a reliable vehicle will give you the REAL world. Try it. You might like it

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René Sauer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If only cars nowadays were simple enough for amateurs to work on.

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Smilodon, a Bad Cat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's simply a matter of application. I grew up with cars in the '60/'70s, graduated HS in 1978. But I love this s**t, so taught myself as the tech advanced. I'm an amateur, and run a fiercely quick and fast 2004 GTO- with 2022+ tech and bleeding edge ECU software. My leather seats are coming apart, and I'm sad, but that doesn't make the car quicker or faster, so I pretend not to notice. Couldn't do interior work with a gun to my head, anyway. Not my thing.

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Mario Strada
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lots of guys still work on cars, but modern cars are almost impossible to work on and need a computer for most performance hacks. It's not the guys that have changed, it's the cars.

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Smilodon, a Bad Cat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not so. You need to understand the car's computer, but many performance mods can be done old school, wrenches and bloody knuckles. I do this every weekend, my car and my cohorts, so save the disbelief and popular snark. OMG! Cars are SO complicated. No. They're not. Compared to a gaming tower, or 4k smart tv, they're about as simple as an hammer. But the moving parts just blow y'all away, right?

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SR
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Now they design popular video games and earn more money than you'll ever see.

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DrBronxx
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are places that do it for you, and there are YouTube instructional videos.

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Paulo Freitas
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yea untill the day you get stranded on the Middle of nowhere at 2am because you just got a flat tire, or in some blind corner for the same reason, na dude learning to Change a tire should be a mandatory condition to getting your drivers licence, my father taught me when i got mine ( because they dont teach it in driving schools in Europe either, but that Simple knowledge " saved " my a*s more than once )

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MrTir
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok ok, what if there is a man that plays video games regularly, can change a tier, goes to gym and likes having some muscles on, loves learning foreign languages, loves cats, recycles attentively and loves small cars? (Hello, here). Lets break all these stereotypes altogether once and for all..

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Brian White
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My son and daughter have been changing tires since the age of 3 (with help, obviously). Some things you should just know how to do even if you may never need that knowledge.

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Dingooo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Changing a tire is a pretty rare thing these days. Tires have improved tremendously from the olden days.

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David
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What Jason said. I do both. I didn't play many video games back when I was overhauling engines because video games (mostly) didn't exist.

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nuberiffic
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do you think changing a tyre is an incredibly complicated skill?

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Zephyr343
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmmmm maybe because I don't and never will have any interest in working on a car? I get frustrated enough as is

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Knox Warner
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Change a tire into what? Are you saying there are no games in which you change a tire?

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Cuppa tea?
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Remember when was the last time your tyre blow up? It's a bit advanced since diagonal tyres of 60's.

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Ches Yamada
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uhhhhh. I "do that" and my grandpa showed me how to change a tire... and I'm not a man, either.

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Let’s Go Brandon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you spent your weekends working on your car, you probably had a crappy car to need so much repair. Cleaning it, sure. But replacing parts all the time means you have a lemon.

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Smilodon, a Bad Cat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Trumpist moron, I work on my car every chance I get. Bring your POS, and $100, line up with me and let's see. I'll spot you two lengths for having a s**t box, and one for being a Trumpist moron. And I'll still take your money. For you? "I'm a dumbass" would be a better fit. Pfft.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I did occasionally work on my car back when all you needed was a decent set of tools and a Chilton manual, but I didn't spend every weekend doing it. If you have to wrench on your car every weekend, you need to junk that piece of sh!t and buy a good one.

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Smilodon, a Bad Cat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not "have to". It's want to. Go online and look up what I had to do to alter a GM computer for a 350hp 5.7L to accept and control an aftermarket 7.0L that just dyno'd (a load based test of torque and horsepower) at 578hp/623lbft. I wrench and laptop, and when I'm not working on my GTO, I'm thinking about working on my GTO. I saw a verified 10.2 mpg at 140 mph, on street tires through the mufflers. No tricks, just lotsa work. And I prefer Haynes manuals + the factory build books. Never presume to tell a car guy what they "need"- you'll save money at the dentist.

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Nobody
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

would the requirement of a degree in computer science to even lift the bonnet on modern cars have anything to do with it?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If your car needs repair every weekend, maybe you need a new car.

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Smilodon, a Bad Cat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you love to play with your car, maybe you need less moronic commentary in your life, eh?

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April Morris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I blame car manufacturers for that. Now you almost need a college degree to do a simple (is that a thing anymore) diagnostic test. My mother owned a 1997 Chevy Lumina that we had to take to the dealer to find out how to access the battery! That was a car made 26 years ago and they've only gotten more complicated since. Honestly, that's why I don't want anything newer than a 2006 Jeep.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A loser's perspective. I do my own work, have a code reader, a laptop, and some specialized automotive plugs. Nothing much, not super expensive. If you can understand how things work, you can understand what the computer is doing. If you get that, nothing is beyond you. It's the effort you put in, not the tech built in, that matters. I listen to master's degree computer sci engineers whine and moan about their cars, while they bend 200,000+ lines of code to shove a pop up ad in people's faces on multiple phone platforms. But their cars are "too complicated". Does it take a college degree to plug in a code reader, then go online to decipher the code? No. It doesn't. And if you had bothered to read the owner's manual, you could have accessed the battery yourself for free. Had a bought new '98 Monte Carlo Z34, the 2door version of the Lumina. Re read your post. How to say I'm too stupid to read the instructions while blaming the manufacturer for your issues. Sigh.

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While men and women are both prone to struggling with mental health issues, men are far more likely to die by suicide and far less likely to utilize mental health services. So what should we be doing to combat this toxic masculinity? According to Mens Group, it’s important to first identify your role in these gender norms and what beliefs you hold that you want to challenge. “If you were abusive in your relationships, you need to learn better coping mechanisms and cope with anger,” Mens Group explains. “You can only find a way forward by first understanding where you are. It starts with self-examining your behavior and identifying areas that require positive change.”

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Masculinity Gatekeeping

Masculinity Gatekeeping

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What does it mean if we wear your underwear while watching football?

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Gatekeeping Skin Masculinity

Gatekeeping Skin Masculinity

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

30 years ago, the only people with tattoos could be roughly divided into the military and criminals. When your grandmother gets inked, it’s a sign that tattoos are now about as countercultural and rebellious as wearing red socks.

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Combating toxic masculinity will also likely lead to some difficult or uncomfortable conversations. “This is achievable by talking to people of the opposite gender identities and expressions,” Mens Group notes. “You need to talk about gender biases concerning masculinity. This will give you an understanding of how your behavior affects people of the opposite gender.”

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“Men need to learn not to get defensive when having these difficult conversations. The aim of the talks should be to seek understanding, which helps to facilitate positive change.”

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Fishing = Peak Masculinity

Fishing = Peak Masculinity

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So Phones Determine Your Masculinity

So Phones Determine Your Masculinity

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You Are Not A Man If You Have Blonde Hair, Apparently

You Are Not A Man If You Have Blonde Hair, Apparently

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This actually pisses me off. My dad was naturally blonde. He was Swedish by genetics/heritage. He was a good man and a great father. Eff you and your idiotic, nonsensical prejudices, Emmy.

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It’s important that we educate young boys that there really is no “box” they need to fit into. It’s all arbitrary. They can make their own decisions about what they are interested in and how they want to express themselves, and we should never make them feel guilty or looked down upon for showing emotions. Teach boys to help out around the house and in the kitchen just as much as their sisters, and teach them to respect all people, regardless of their gender, sexual orientation, interests, etc. Essentially, combating toxic masculinity should be as simple as raising boys and girls equally and never shaming boys for being themselves. But unfortunately, due to the way society currently is, it takes a bit of correcting past prejudices.   

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Fragile Masculinity

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is it, that so many of this post, try to offend men by comparing them to women? Like, F you! The misogyny is crazy high.

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Ever Had Your Masculinity And Eating Habits Gatekept By A Bottle Of Cheap Hot Sauce?

Ever Had Your Masculinity And Eating Habits Gatekept By A Bottle Of Cheap Hot Sauce?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Urgh, most of these type of sauces just taste like corn syrup and capsaicin with liquid smoke flavour.

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Gatekeeping Fatherhood, Masculinity, All Sorts Really

Gatekeeping Fatherhood, Masculinity, All Sorts Really

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The Book of Man also notes that when fighting toxic masculinity, one great step is to dare to be vulnerable with your male friends, to show them that it’s okay and even welcomed. “Show strength by crying. Do this in the knowledge that all men go through emotional difficulties. Daily!” they write. “It’s true that if one man shows it’s okay to do something, we, as pack animals, tend to follow. So open up yourself, and become that person your friends open up to too. Men tend to either keep emotional traumas to themselves or go for female support. While the latter is a wonderful thing, surely we can make a decision to serve that support role to our buddies too. But it takes a hardy soul to stick their neck above the parapet first to see if we’re in the clear to do so. Be that soul.”

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Gate Keeping Masculinity

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Jason
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My father failed at life and I can drive manual. Wonder where that falls on the scale.

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Gatekeeping Masculinity

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Gatekeeping Masculinity

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And don’t stop questioning why things are the way they are. Because often, there’s not a great reason. “It’s a bloodless revolution,” The Book of Man writes. “A revolution in the head, but not in the inward looking way it was in the Sixties, because you want to effect lasting change, and not be naked all the time. Question the way we are brought up, question the systems of power, question how you are being controlled, question all thinking about being a man. Seek some answers for yourself and take responsibility. The end to toxic masculinity has to be started by men so it becomes socially unacceptable. Let’s start the change now.”

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Imagine Gatekeeping Shoes As A Sign Of Masculinity

Imagine Gatekeeping Shoes As A Sign Of Masculinity

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Jason
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have people who post this stuff actually worn a suit and tie for over 8 hours a day? I hate ties with a passion

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According to this list, men must have beards, have loud, large cars, be great at fishing, play sports, must eat meat, must not recycle, must not wear sneakers, must never take naps, must have tattoos, must not have an iPhone, along with much more… It is exhausting even reading this list, let alone trying to live in a way that conforms to these silly ideas. I hope all of you pandas know that, regardless of your gender, you can behave however you like. As long as you respect others, how you dress and what hobbies you choose to have are completely up to you. A real man is someone who identifies as a man! Keep upvoting the posts you find most comical, and then if you’re interested in reading another article discussing toxic masculinity, look no further than right here.  

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Being A Man

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Because Driving What You Enjoy Is Shameful

Because Driving What You Enjoy Is Shameful

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These guys are going to faint when they find out fire trucks are automatic.

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This Man Has A Comic Book Character Pfp, Btw

This Man Has A Comic Book Character Pfp, Btw

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So Much Bs Toxic Masculinity In This, Glad I'm Not A "Real Man"

So Much Bs Toxic Masculinity In This, Glad I'm Not A "Real Man"

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait, I thought real men were supposed to have beards, and that shaving was "gay"! Now they say to use straight shavers, and an e-book! Aren't e-books "gay" too? I'm really confused now on how to be a real man! It's making me giddy!

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Gatekeeping Whatever Tf This Is

Gatekeeping Whatever Tf This Is

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Matthew Thompson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bolt from an AR-15 / M16. Any man or woman who spent time in the military recognizes it (and has spent hours cleaning it!)

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