50 Posts From People Fed Up With Unrealistic Requirements And Expectations When Trying To Find A Job
There’s only so much BS a human being can possibly take. And this level of tolerance decreases as soon as we start talking about job applications. From one hell of a job description to position requirements that make zero sense, these are just the tip of the iceberg of the dangerous and severe diagnosis known as chronic job search exhaustion.
If you have it, you know it—because at this point you are no longer willing to send one more cover letter with dear this and dear that, because enough is enough. But there’s a safe space to talk about hard things and this corner of the internet known as the r/RecruitingHell subreddit is precisely that.
With 154k members no longer buying into broken job offers, the subreddit has quite a hell of a collection to make you feel better about where you’re at, or at least, not worse.
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I Will Drink To That
For real, can we stop cancelling people because they said something offensive as a 20 year old in 1983?!
Also not letting them apologise or improve and not accepting their remorse. Like what's up with that? A person making a joke one time is not the hill to die on. There are people with real hateful views spewing out and and people get stuck on one 10 year old tweet and there is no recourse if you are labelled one of the 'bad' ones... Your life being ruined is justified somehow. Seems like a pretty fascist way of thinking to me.
Load More Replies...In Europe companies demand full doctorates and 20 years of experience, but the applicants must be 18 years old, working 30h a day, 8days a week, and preferably pay for the privilege to work with the company
Reminds me of that one 'smart' company that wanted 10 years experience in a programming language - that at that point - only existed for two. Pure brainacs.
as an employed teenager, I would feel bad accepting a $15 salary as the minimum wage raise suggests. I am under the opinion that any degree that requires you to be an adult should pay you enough for an adult's lifestyle. If you are an adult working a job alongside teens, then you certainly deserve enough to pay rent and food, at least, so there should be more options for free schooling available for adults so you don't have to do that job anymore
When are you running for office, and where do I go to vote?
Load More Replies...I have written a similar article titled "Understanding And Overcoming Job Search Fatigue – How To Beat The Slump". The article covers brief summary of Job Search Fatigue. URL: https://www.whitecrow.co/resources/talent/understanding-and-overcoming-job-search-fatigue/
I have written a similar article titled "Understanding And Overcoming Job Search Fatigue – How To Beat The Slump". The article covers brief summary of Job Search Fatigue. URL: https://www.whitecrow.co/resources/talent/understanding-and-overcoming-job-search-fatigue/
This Happens All The Time
It’s even more frustrating when they put a character limit in the manual part. I couldn’t put the whole name of my college in.
Load More Replies...I actively avoid companies like this. It shows mismanagement of resources and manpower. I dont mind one or the other, but not both.
It recently happened to me, I attached resume and cover letter but they sent email asking me to complete the form again, I decided to ignore it...
Load More Replies...Takes way longer than manually filling out paper applications used to—-and at least with those, you actually got to talk to a real person!
Anyone Relate To This?
YES! The only reason they don't include it is because they want to try and pay you as little as they can get away with.
and they almost always pitch you "growth opportunities" to compensate.
Load More Replies...I always ask for the salary range when I'm asked for an interview. If they reply and it's acceptable I go, otherwise I decline. When they offer a vague reply like "I don't think the salary alone shows how much value this would bring you" or my favorite "it's based on experience" etc, I just decline.
I always worried that would give the wrong impression that I am only applying or interviewing because of money (even though it is in a nutshell!). But I have also taken the time to interview for a job and they end up offering 70% of what I was making already. Finding newjobs is such a headache
Load More Replies...I don't even apply for a job anymore without knowing the salary. The amount of times I've had my time wasted and been seriously lowballed is extreme!
Oh YES! First thing I ask recruiters - what are the remote work options and what's the salary range.
You wouldn't look at a car or house that wasn't advertised with a price, why not the job you are going to be using to PAY for it!
I'm a hiring manager. I agree! But we can't just list a salary. Some people come to me making $65k at their current job. If I want them, I'd pitch $75k on the offer. But if they come to me making $75 already i might offer $85k. Professional white collar jobs have a salary range, not just a salary. Hourly jobs are much more predictable.
Yes, please put salary in the description. You will save yourselves and everyone else a lot of time
Job searching is one heck of a job to have. And while you’re on duty, there are many things that induce the dread of any job seeker—job search fatigue. From never-ending cover letter requests to test tasks, pre-screen interviews, draining face-to-face interviews, trial first day, and you name it, only to find out another candidate has been chosen, it's something that puts a strain on your wellbeing in a way that not many things have.
The worst part of the job search is that until you find one, you are not allowed to quit. The problem is that if you succumb to job search fatigue, you’ll prolong the whole process and the search will become no less easier, but way longer. So you wonder what can be done about it?
Hiring Managers And Recruiters
Oh but be a mom, and have the ability to take off a year or two to get a whole new human started with bonding, love, security, self esteem, etc. then try and go back to work. Tell the new potential employer what you've been doing during your "gap" I swear, it's like they'd rather hear that you robbed a convenience store and just got out!! "What, you picked your CHILD'S DEVELOPMENT over your career??? "
Throw out the algorithms and metrics and once again have HUMANS read applications. Don’t give me the excuse that you don’t have enough personnel to read them all. F*****g HIRE some!!!
But who’s going to review the application for that job if they don’t have the personnel for it?
Load More Replies...If someone clearly shows signs of expertise, a few gaps on a paper shouldn't matter.
In my country nobody asks the reason you have employment gaps. They usually assume it's for personal reasons, or having trouble finding a job in your field.
Sometimes people also leave jobs off their resumes because they’re irrelevant or basically bad memories, so it looks like a gap but it isn’t.
Load More Replies...We don't. We value family and care about health. Just be able to explain the gap without sounding shady and it's all fine.
What amazes me is that employers are willing to use algorithms to determine your suitability as a candidate but rarely use dating agencies to find themselves a suitable partner
A Little Too Accurate
So accurate it hurts. Don't forget the mountain of student loan debt because tuition inflation is so much higher than normal inflation. I started college in 2008 and since then the tuition cost has gone up almost 1.5 times.
And then some asshole will be like oh you didn’t have to go to college that was your choice…as if both aren’t a rock and hard place. Dirty jobs pay well but if you get injured you’re f****d so it comes to about the same thing..
Load More Replies...My Dad's a baby boomer. At one of his jobs, he was given too much work with no training, causing him to have a mental breakdown. He was made redundant from another job, with a mortgage to pay and kids to feed. When it comes to employment/money, no generation has had (or will have it) easy.
Way to not understand wages and inflation.
Load More Replies...There was a comment just now that was deleted about young people "crying into their avocado toast". It's really really weird how many people are attacking and judging people based on what kind of coffee or toast they like. If you like said coffee or toast, you evidently don't deserve to be able to make a living at all and should be killed. Was on a website the other day where they started talking about how Trump had made us safe against Russia and China (rather than being an obvious shill for them) and they were particularly angry against anyone who drank lattes. And those who suddenly realized how dangerous China was stopped drinking lattes and this somehow was supposed to mean something. That we have to hear such stupid pig-swill opinions from inane idiots is the greatest failing of modern social communications.
"...should be killed..." Paul, please get some help.
Load More Replies...This Guy Gets It
Too many humans nowadays. If I open a spot for a more entry level type position I get hundreds of applications. Its awful.
Every. Single. Time. My last 4 jobs were temp gigs, it’s like a skip the que of interviews.
Yep, I have seen people called back 3 times or more, only to be turned down.
“It produces this feeling of ‘what’s the point’ and ‘I don’t want to put myself out there’ and obviously that’s a problem,” said Dawn Norris, an associate professor of sociology at the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse. But the bigger problem is that if “you’re not seeking, you’re not going to find anything.”
But according to Norris, job search fatigue is much more complex than simply “an exhaustion of rejection and not hearing back.” It turns out, it has also to do with the loss of identity. “For those of us whose identities were connected to our jobs, those rejections and not hearing back creates a mismatch. We’re constantly getting these feedback mismatches between who we believe ourselves to be and what we’re hearing. When we hear that, it increases our job search fatigue.”
Saw It Online
Possibly but not probably...a trap to weed out lying applicants. "Flaso in uno, falso in omnibus"
He could just apply and tell them that he created the damn thing. Besides that he probably didn't develop it over night so arguably could claim 4 + years experience.
That does not make any sense?! Someone from another country won't have 4 years experience either....it didn't exist until 1,5 years ago?!
Load More Replies...We Need To Make Discussing Salary Normal
It is normal to discuss salaries. I am an employer, had some interviews as I hired three people (small office). While I liked their enthusiasm and their willingness to work with me, I always told them the net salary at the interview. It isn't fair to find out your salary only after working for a month there.
The problem isn't that much when you're hired, but knowing how much your colleagues are making (especially for a similar job... we were 6 with the same exact job, and the gap was 900 € between the lowest and highest paid, and it wasn't even remotely justified by how long they had been working here...)
Load More Replies...I live in a country where women get paid 30% less than a guy for the same job. I've been self-employed for years, but when I applied for my last job in an office, they offered me X amount, and I smiled politely while showing them a document that said the guy before me made a lot more than that and had less qualifications than I did. (I knew him, he recommended me for the job). Company director smiled at me, agreed to meet my conditions and hired me immediately. Worked there for years, until they fired my boss, who was awesome, and put a moron in his place. I quit and started my own business.
I got hired as a supervisor on a contract when i was 22 years old, working for a large auto manufacturer. Yes I was not a permanent employee there, but I was still a supervisor. I found out that the temporary employees that I was supervising were making more than I was. The full-time hourly employees I understood - but the temporary ones? I left soon after I found that out
Why do you think that's helpful? Different people with the same job title make different salaries based on years of experience, years with the company, great reviews vs ok reviews. Thinking everyone should make the same is unrealistic, unless you want a pay cut so the Absolute Fool you work with can make more on the back of your work.
Salary is a right, so I've the right to discuss about... Who says that is rude is because they're not paying you enough...
Crazy, I read some where on a job interview website of the do’s and dont’s , and that was on there, as far as asking how much your salary will be, that is such BS
oh yeah, discussing your salary with other employees - the perfect apple of discord
Opinion
I'd like a gameshow type deal where a bunch of folks from different countries try the job applications from around the world.
That would just be normal job applying. It wouldn’t be interesting if they were qualified and prepared.
Load More Replies...I asked my dad for advice about jobs when I was looking a few years ago since he was employed for the same company for over 30 years and he said not being a major drug addict helped (he worked in construction). But I am already not a drug addict and I work in STEM. Dad has never written a resume either. I have a MS Chemistry and I think he makes more money than me while retired.
What is this bullshit about baby boomers? At 64 I'm most definitely a baby boomer, and every job I've tried to get during the past thirty years has been a bloody nightmare of wading through all the garbage imposed by so-called "employment agencies", just like everyone forty years younger than me has to do now - and I can tell you that every single time I was talking to some know-nothing dipstick, fresh out school, whose interview process consisted of a checklist and zero knowledge of the actual job being promoted. Baby boomers didn't come up with this crap, because it all started with self-obsessed "yuppies" in the early 1990s, who all thought they were going to take the world by storm and be multi-millionaires by the time they were thirty. I've walked away from more job interviews than I care to think about, and I had a mortgage and a family to feed, because I refused to play that game.
I'm a boomer and can't imagine having the same job for 30 years. Who does that?? But I did tech industry and we'd get tossed back into the labor pool, in-house or not, at the drop of a ship date. Of course, I got "too old to know tech" despite being the industry from the early years on. So, time for a whole new career path, which is pretty cool. Glad I paid into social security all those years, though.
Actually, many Boomers get new jobs after retiring. Stop being so biased.
Then, there’s a stigma about job seekers as they tend to self-isolate and put up a smile every time talking to people about how their life is going. But it’s really important to talk to others to get that much-needed social support and reassurance that you’re going to be just fine. Also, people may help you to learn new job search strategies, give a fresh perspective on your skills and experience, provide useful tips, and after all… help you to find a job.
I’m Done
Higher up is much the same, "if you get refused for an internship, just go work there it literally makes zero difference".
Load More Replies...Rejected From An Internship For Not Having Enough Experience
Sadly, I got rejected by several internships that I need to complete my Masters. I even was told, "Wow, that was one of the best interviews we've ever had! Unfortunately, we really want people who have already finished their degree for this internship." It took me a year to find a place that would let me work for free.
Can you imagine expecting years in the field for an internship that probably only pays a stipend if anything. How we all haven’t gone stab happy is a wonder.
No, it just means they take on unpaid interns to do a job someone would have to be paid for.
Gold
A lot of the content on LinkedIn is so pretentious it feels like a social network for bullshitters
Linkedin is the social network for posting professional bullshit, instead of gossip bullshit like on Facebook.
Load More Replies...Right James 016. 1. Who carries food for dogs to an interview. 2. How long does it take to feed a dog? The story is mean to be allegorical but is very badly done.
Uno Card
Which companies instruct their staff to write good reviews on. YMMV.
Load More Replies...Absolutely. I'm interviewing them too. Who says I want to work there? Place might be full of narcissists.
And employers asking for a commander recommendation if you’re military. That’s like the equivalent of saying you’ll only take a reference from the president/CEO of a company. While not impossible, that’s not usually the person who knows what you can do.
If you've already committed, get the goss from the person you're replacing, who should be training you for at least a few days before you leave. If you're walking into a job where the previous employee isn't around to train you, it's often a red flag. (Industry dependent, of course).
In my experience if people quit to take a new job they give two to three weeks notice. The reason they leave might not even always be about the company they are leaving. Our company takes two months to hire new people from the time they do the posting to when the new person starts. Not having the person you are replacing around to ask questions just isn’t feasible.
Load More Replies...Where I work, it's standard procedure for a candidate to meet with a potential future collegue, and ask whatever. I would request that!
Funny because job references only give out that you worked there, your job title, and maybe when you started and left.
Bring Uno Cards. Lay +2 on the table when they drop that question.* Watch their *pikachu face* *Just hope they don't have a reversal or another +x.
This Is What It’s Come To
Got his BS and MS, now going for Ph.D. (aka piled higher and deeper).
I am so glad that I do not do office work. I'm a baker and have never had to deal with this kind of bonkers nonsense.
This Guy Gets It
Don't forget that this is an entry level job with the corresponding salary.
I've posted in reply to this before. I am the entire IT department. Quite literally. I also have a skillset that encompasses almost everything on that list - I may not be an expert in all of them but I have experience of them - but that's what working in IT for several decades does for you.
Not sure why someone downvoted you but there are lots of places that have one person as the IT department.
Load More Replies...When I advertise for a .net developer, they list all of these things. I delete those.
That's how you either get someone who's bad at a little bit of everything and good at nothing, or someone who simply lies to get a job. In neither case will that person be likely to help your company at all.
A Delightful Find On Linkedin
nothing changes? that's the way it was when I was looking for work in 1969. But I eventually discovered volunteering and the paid jobs started happening.
Job Ads Nowadays. Sorry If Repost I Didn’t Find It In Search
and also you're working in an office full of karens and kyles (male karens)
Company: My Next Hire Needs To Be Enthusiastic About The Role So This Doesn't Happen Again
"Firings will continue until morale improves", I hung that sign on my door once. Didn't know then but it was a few weeks before I left that employ.
Worked in a place that had that exact philosophy just a few years ago. People there were so overworked and stressed out that it wasn't uncommon to hear someone crying in their office, and no one would take vacation because being gone even one day meant you were absolutely buried in work when you came back. People brought it up repeatedly but no one seemed to care. After I left, I heard a bunch of others did as well.
This is happening where I work. Industrial site. One HVAC Mechanic retired last fall. They did not replace him, leaving the site with two HVAC Mechanics. Just this month the two remaining HVAC Mechanics quit.
In many places they cannot add significantly more responsibility without upping your compensation. My husband used to work at Lowe's years ago. They gradually had upped him to running three departments, and then wanted to add three MORE. He said sure, depending on what the raise is.... store manager laughed and said "you are lucky that you HAVE a job, there is no raise" - he turned in his notice and was almost instantly approved for unemployment.
Nothing They Can Do
I really don't understand how unpaid internships are legal. They are not legal in my country.
But since you need experience for a paying job, an internship does help.
Load More Replies...Saw This On Linkedin And Had A Good Laugh!
Would really hate not getting a job because my ekans experience is too weak. Better level that one up...
I work in a machine shop and the people who interview appliquant don't even know how to power up our machines. It's like asking the guy who cleans the CEO's office to hire a pilot for their corporate jet... I got turned down for a team leader position by a HR clerk who thought I wasn't realy looking for a leading job. She gave that posting to someone who never was a machinist, can't even name most of our equipment and certainly don't know how to operate any machines we have. Know that at that time, I already had over 25 years experience and was frequently asked to help fix production issues by nearly every body, no matter what work shift they were on. That same HR woman was only seen on the shop floor on causual fridays wearing thight pants that showed a full camel toe. That doesn't help me having respect for that department.
Unfortunately…
According to my annual evaluations, I am the most efficient employee in my team (my manager wants to promote me). I am severely underpaid, not only for the work I provide but also compared to my colleagues. I asked for a raise and they denied, saying that I should be happy I have a job at this day and age, so I decided to underwork so it matches my salary. I'm still and by far the most efficient employee T.T
I'm one of those people who abuses the overfocus perk of my ADHD, so I do 4 hours worth of work in an hour. Once, I was told by a former boss to "go help poor Johnny over there" since I "wasn't doing anything"... To which I replied "No. Johnny has been on the phone with his girlfriend half the morning, and has taken ten cigarette breaks. I don't get paid to do his job". According to the moron boss, I "wasn't a team player"... And another time, I had finished all my work for the day and had about two hours to kill til my shift ended... He gave me a pile of stuff to do, which was not part of my job, and I said "am I getting a raise?" and he just left 🤣🤣🤣
Load More Replies...I find you are paid according to the salary you negotiate when you are hired. Even if you role has completely changed, the job market is completely different and you have proven to be the best in the company in your type of position. Management will alway base any raise on your starting pay. "We can't pay you market rate, you hired in 25% below market when times were difficult. Here's a 0.5% raise to make it all better." Don't be afraid to find out what other companies are paying in your field, even if it means going on interviews. Then ask for a raise based on those facts. I've done it twice. First time the company said no to a raise."No budget for a raise." Funny, when I put in my notice they found the money in the budget. I left anyway. Second time I did this the company actually brought my pay up to market rates.
Thank you for the advice. It is going to come in handy
Load More Replies...You work according to the pay you get, not to what pay they promise you.
Once at a fairly regular review it was pointed out that in one of the teams was a person who was the only one who had the experience and know-how to perform the work he did and was paid accordingly. Letting an employee become that irreplaceable was flagged as a big mistake and immediately a plan was put in place to train more people to do this work for less money. This would have been ok if the idea was to make sure work would continue as usual in the event of this person leaving the team, but the long-term goal was firing a hardworking employee so they could save a few bucks on his salary. Disgusting.
My welding instructor told me to go and make yourself unreplaceble. On my way nicely. There are 2 who can do what I do, and the other one will be retiring in a few years.
For me you are paid based on how much money you can help me earn.
Because, Obviously, You Shouldn't Have A Life Outside Work. Thought This Would Fit Here
Funny, did s/he expect basic human decency from a hedge fund? That's adorable.
i get where you are coming form, but there truly is no need to be a d**k to OP, think about it.
Load More Replies...I had a part time job during college. I was asked by my manager what was more important, my job, or college. I laughed and walked away. Did not get fired or demoted, and was NEVER asked that question again.
Mate, that's hedge funds for you. They'll pay incredibly well but will have you sign your soul over to them.
You Are Not Google. Don't Recruit Like Google. Sincerely, Someone Who Wishes They Worked At Google
I need to know who this CEO is... I'd like to see if they're hiring
What WOULD be nice is if every job applicant were subjected to a job audition. Can't fake competency, unlike a resume.
Idgaf Anymore, Sending Rude Replies To Recruiters Who Ghost
Speaking as someone who once worked in admin at a recruitment agency, avoid recruiters like they're coming at you wearing a suit of flaming bees. They give ZERO f***s about you, and keep people holding out hope they'll get jobs that don't even exist. I have so many horror stories.
Especially due the pandemic, I have the feeling that many jobs advertised were fictional and only out there to raise the recruiters' KPIs so that they keep their jobs even when no one is hiring
Load More Replies...A hospital called to interview me on the phone as a Covid 19 check in worker- stand at the front door and take temperatures. I missed the interview because I had to go to the Urgent Care. The HR interviewer copped a nasty attitude on the phone when I told her.
I literally had a recruiter just ghost me a few days ago...I am seriously considering sending her this
Do it! Makes me so mad to be treated like cattle or something...
Load More Replies...I Cracked This Morning And Submitted This Application - I Am Sick Of These Ridiculous Questions
People praise me for working at a homeless shelter. I work there because I don't want to live there.
I think you took it too personally. In no way, shape or form did the OP say admin is demeaning. I think you should look into why this offended you so much. I've been in admin for 14 years myself and I found the post funny.
Load More Replies...2 Iq Test?! Really?
Some people get cheesecake? Damn, my mother told me in a Target parking lot, then gave me a protein bar.
I got extended gaming hours for Serious Sam and some takeout. Because my mom went to go live with her mom and my dad was too upset to cook anything. (It was a mutual divorce but still upsetting.)
Load More Replies...I got turned down at an interview to be a car salesman because their personality test told them I was “too honest”. Make of that what you will.
I had to take a personality test to be a server at Olive Garden. I failed it. Not sure why it was necessary to begin with
I was once turned down for a job as a retail stock clerk. A job I can do in my sleep. I was told I was not qualified.
Had the same thing happen to me, when I applied to Walmart. Like, have you seen the people they DO hire sometimes? But I, a middle aged mom who doesn't party, works hard, and is just looking to support my family, an not what they're looking for? Wow. Wow. Okay. Seems I dodged a bullet, honestly.
Gotta Start Early
So I’m Not The Only One Constantly Getting Ghosted?
I honestly learned to not casre about this. You don't come back with feedback in 5 working days, I move on. I had cases where the feedback came after about 3 weeks saying ok you made to the next stage. And I was like do I know you? Don't take c**p folks.
Yeah, I interviewed and did translation tests for a really reputable company. They got back to me to offer me the job six weeks later! By then, I had already accepted and started working at another place!
Load More Replies...I dunno, my husband got called back after 3 months and was offered the job. He accepted because it was in something he was really interested in, and he is really happy in his new job. He had been searching for about 8 months. The company had decided to go with a different candidate originally, but the candidate was dragging his feet and backed out (and that's why there was radio silence for so long).
I went through 4 rounds of interviews with progressively higher people in the company, was told my experience was perfect for this new position they were creating, and was asked to come down and tour the facility and meet the people. A week later, not a peep. So I called to see what was going on and was told they went in another direction. F**K YOU.
I get “You are awesome. Amazing! Well rounded but we’re going with someone else” over and over again
Even better, if I never heard anything from a company (that provides a service normal people would use) I won’t do business with them. If they treat an applicant poorly, it probably doesn’t bode well for customers.
Or the opposite. I keep getting contacted by recruiters....too apply for a lower paying job in a similar industry.
Something Tells Me I’m Not Going To Be Getting A Call Back
If the cl was good i would def move forward
Load More Replies...This is beautiful. I want to be wealthy just to apply and do things like this.
We Don’t Count Internships As Experience Here, So Let’s Just Forget All Of That
I’m amazed by interviewers that can’t comprehend people who can manage both school and work. They should be the type of people you’d love to hire - many have learned how to balance priorities, own tight deadlines, and know what stress truly is. Bonus if they also managed a personal life.
Crying
Or worse, you fill in all that manual crap and their website locks up and erases it all. I had this happen at a famous IT company. Needless to say, I gave up. If you can't even keep your own hiring site webpage working, why would I want to work for you? That's like applying to an airline where the wings keep falling off their planes.
Employment Gap
I bet he was in jail and is just trying to cover it up. Can you imagine being 10 years old and not having a 9-5 job? Disgusting! /s
Load More Replies...Nobody's going to point out the real weirdness? There was clearly employment history for this person before 9/2008, or there wouldn't have been an employment gap. Did they list their lemonade stand work from July through August of 2008 or something?
"... and the local coal mines were closed due to the economic crisis, also no chimney sweeping jobs due to newfangled central heating in the area."
Elementary, Jr. High, and part of High School. I was busy being a kid...
Well gues the algorithm does not have a concept of legal work age or sth?
Yep
And then let the worst employees work there forever. Even the ones who aren’t family members. Then again, those are the ones with the brownest noses.
Load More Replies...Catch 22 Solved
Literally it’s the only way when you’re in that position. Lie lie lie.
Exactly On Time...
Exactly, it sounds like whoever these people are they will be irrational and cruel to work for anyway. They deserve the worst employees they can get.
Load More Replies...Why hide the company's name? Help people considering working there, show them how they think!
I dont know when this happened. But its a pandemic. You can NEVER come to early, just to make sure you are not there more time then needed. Just on time is the way to go now, or at least in my country. And also, being on time means being on time, not an half an hour early...
It literally says he was exactly on time but was refused for not coming in earlier. ?
Load More Replies...Re: Thank you so much for the opportunity.... the opportunity to see what a s**t bag company and s**t bag person you are :)
What a bizarre bogus reason. Wizards always show up on time. Not too late and especially not too early...
I read that, and suddenly recalled every curse word I’ve ever known. F*** them.
Every Time
I eat ramen on my vacation days so this is enough perk for me to work more
Load More Replies...My favorite thing was working maintenance for a company and being asked to set up tables and chairs for an employee appreciation lunch that was being catered in. I was pretty excited about that, but after setting up all of the tables and chairs, I discovered that "employee appreciation" didn't include peasant employees like me; just those who were salaried employees.
the WHOLE friday?! Wows I gotta think about that, not sure I can handle.
Yep. Education Admin: Here is a $1000 one time "bonus" for dealing with Covid. Teacher: You froze my salary for years now, and I had to spend the bonus on masks, sanitizer, and disinfectant for myself and my students. AND we DO have lots of education and training
Corporate Lingo Irl
sense of humor: we will mock and tease you, then punish you when you get mad.
Paid Time Off - it's just terminology that replaces vacation days & sick days. Most companies in the U.S. are using this term now. You can usually use a minimum of 4 hours (to go to doctor's appointments, dental, etc.), a day or so for being sick, or a week or two for vacation. It's 'earned' each pay period.
Load More Replies...This literally describes working for a certain high-profile Detroit entrepreneur. You know who you are.
Don’t See “No Memes” As A Rule And I Thought This Subreddit Might Enjoy This
In a better place, with a better salary and thinking about you, still stuck in this same position.
Can you perform under pressure./No, but I'm pretty good at Bohemian Rhapsody.
I freaking HATE this question! I think it should work the other way around - recruiter asking the applicant what would keep them working for this company for more than 5 years. I bet they can use the honest answers to improve working conditions and attract more professionals.
*face Palm*
Greeting them = "Hi, nice to see you in this Hellhole." Welcoming them = "Welcome to this Hellhole and please allow me to draw your attention to some of the overpriced useless plastic shyte we have on offer, that I need you to buy to save my job.'
Load More Replies...I have NEVER been welcomed at BB. Welcome = come in, sit down, coffee? We are happy to have you as a guest, what can we do to make your stay pleasant? Actuality ... get your sh1t and get out! One time was "tailed" by security the whole time I was there (had fun making them "chase me").
Funnily enough, during the 2008 recession Best Buy's Geek Squad refused to interview me because they felt my experience was a flight risk and they'd have to fill the spot again too soon. I was basically unemployed for over a year at that point, so I wasn't in any position to be picky and I told them that. Think I dodged a bullet even though I ended up unemployed for about three years total.
Restaurant I worked at, "We do not have customers, we have guests." Someone actually got fired over this
See, if a human being was asking the question, they’d recognize the confusing language. Computers are semantic hairsplitters.
What bullshit. This is ridiculous. How do they ever get anyone to work for them?
Hope Memes Are Allowed Here
Too True
Total bullshit to guilt trip you into selling your soul to them. When you finally decide to retire, all that investment in your family pays off. They will be there, both when you’re still working, and after you stop. The company lies when they tell how much they value you. Believe me, they will forget you ever existed the exact millisecond your retirement party ends and you pull out of the parking lot for the last time—-even though they kept telling you for years how vital and indispensable you were to the operation, to try and convince you to practically live in the office. It will also continue to run just fine without you, instead of falling apart because you’re not there. Don’t listen to them when they try to steal your personal life from you. Quit wasting time and get your work done, and done well, in the eight hours you’re there, so you can leave on time. Then go home and enjoy some down time with the people and/or animal(s) you love.
I think this Helen Lewis must be a shill for her corporate bosses, if she's even a real person writing such obvious propaganda.
Dear current working environment: f**k you. Crying employees is NEVER a sign of a healthy workplace. Ever.
My team got in to a debate when interviewing for an open position. We’re programmers. One member of the team was adamant about not hiring people who didn’t code outside of their work hours. I don’t mean learning new things. I mean the person didn’t leave work and go home and work on personal coding projects for another 8 hours. I pointed out that I myself didn’t do so, because I wanted to continue to like my job. I have other hobbies I’d like to be able to dedicate time to.
Still How I Feel Everytime I See It
Standard expression to adopt when interviewing the Tangerine Toddler
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How can it recommend you should write more when it requests a haiku? Leaving aside the fact that asking for a haiku was ridiculous to start with!
You're arguing reason on something clearly unreasonable? I think they have you.
Load More Replies...Yep. I'm almost certain I know what company it is, unless this is a canned application (in which case I completely give up).
Load More Replies...Write a haiku about the company you’re applying to. Be sure to mention the ridiculous application/interview questions. My battery’s dying, or I’d compose one for this comment.
Is this for a marketing job? Would help to know some context. For all we know this is entirely appropriate.
How I Feel Everytime I Log In To Linkedin To Update My Profile
I only use Linkedin to keep in touch with peoplewhom I know and who either don't use Facebook at all or who want a more serious and non-controversial Forum/Means to make contact. I have never used it for job-seeking and at age 68 I am highly unlikely to do so.
Found On R/Yesyesyesno
Autopsy Assistant?!? Well, I won't be eating at Moe's Southwest Grill any time soon!
Well, what you are eating is actually dead, so....
Load More Replies...I love this negative because I can relate. I'm a paramedic with 13 years and LinkedIn thinks I would be a good fit at Walmart.
So...what is Moe serving that has them excited about autopsy experience?
Figured This Would Fit Perfectly!!
hes still going there's journeys on netflix which is set AFTER alola sun and moon
yeah. It sucks. He should at least be 13 by now
Load More Replies...So After A Full Day Of Applications I Did This...
Amen
And most of them are just copied from various websites. And never read.
We don't care about cover letters. Just send a resume that shows what you DID before. I don't care if you are 22 and you list the time you were a camp counselor when you were 17. We look at what people have done to see what they will do.
Used to see a lot of CVs and the only way a cover letter got any attention from me was if, at first glance, it looked appalling. Unless it's a marketing job or similar, who cares?
In some creative fields the cover letter is everything. They want to see your talent reaching everything you touch.
Get Degree...
When I went to college a full load of 21 hours was $121, dorm for 3 months was $100,, phone $25. The meal ticket was the most expensive...oh, and books. I graduated in 89. It wasn’t boomers that did this, it was when they figured out student loans could make big bucks and we all fell for it. College today isn’t the same. Go to a community college and learn HVAC or plumbing, electric or EMT. Learn a trade. They did everyone a disservice when they stopped vocational technology in high school. Meant to drive everyone to college so they’d take out loans so colleges could up their tuition and.......... you get it.
Load More Replies...I'm a childless Gen-Xer with 3 college degrees who works as a paralegal. Honestly, if I had kids, I would tell them to go to trade school. Plumbers, HVAC techs, and electricians make tons of money, without the student loan debt when they finish.
I work in a very niche electro-mechanical type industry and it is so difficult to find remotely qualified applicants. Everybody wants to work in an office or online and do not comprehend that the people I supervise make 80K a year with great medical, dental, 401k type plan and a retirement. All this without needing an advanced degree. An electronics certification and some mechanical experience is all they need to be trained on site. Many skilled labor positions are similar
Load More Replies...So Has Been My Experience
Doing nothing isn't impossible. It does take some practice, though..
I know some people who get paid big bucks to do nothing. Meanwhile I'm working my tush off to make...well, nothing...
Load More Replies...If nothing was impossible, it would be possible for something to be impossible.
Linkedin Story Feature
A Late Night Service I'd Actually Use
Experience
Okay, but this is good advice. A lot of that s**t in job ads is aspirational on the part of the person who wrote it, there are some 'musts' they'll forget they even wrote. Especially recruitment agencies.
Agreed. I learned this the hard way years ago. I left a great company because I never "qualified" for any of the internal job postings. In the exit interview, when the HR rep asked why I never applied, I said this. She was the first person to ever explain that the "requirements" are their wish list/best candidate possible - they don't really expect everyone to tick all the boxes. Sadly, it was too late for me at that company but I never forgot that. I eventually ended up with an amazing job that I met about 75% of the "requirements" for but I kicked ass in the interview and had shown my worth in my previous position.
Load More Replies...This is exactly how I got my first job. It's knowledge that counts, not experience
"We Are Unable To Offer Positions To People With The Name Jeffrey"
They might just have a completely incompetent AD/email admin at that company, and everyone else there is too impossibly technically inept to even realize that.
I'm no DBA but I do a lot of database work on the side as part of my regular duties and I cannot even fathom how the schema would prevent a specific name with no special characters or other oddities from working. Schema just defines the fields; a string field for names won't give two fks about what name is in it.
I love your optimism that a database is in a database programme... .xls (not even .xlsx) is as good as you can hope for.
Load More Replies...How about Jeffers? Jefferman? Jaffaman? The Jeffster? ("Middle name cannot contain spaces or accents" inevitably.)
Not Me But Someone Will Relate
Applying For Jobs In The Middle Of Pandemic
Also Don't Forget The Surprised Pikachu Face
Because $11,50 per hour buys my unconditional loyalty and never ending efforts to make you even richer....
Its Like They Dont Even Care
Actually Said By A Tech Interviewer
I've had a manager in tech say that she didn't like people to have specialist roles. Lolz
So many tech managers have not a clue about anything technical. There's a big culture in management, among all those business school grads who spent their college days drunk and taking underwater basket-weaving classes, that "a good manager can manage anywhere". Um, no most of the time having a freaking clue about how a particular business works is incredibly key to being able to manage there.
Load More Replies...I Love Waiting And Waiting!
I had an interview once, waited for half an hour, the person I had an interview with was at lunch during our scheduled interview time, they sent someone else to interview me and they said the position I applied for didn’t even exist (how did I schedule an interview for it, then??)
Sounds Like A Harassment
Not to mention, as the title suggests, that any young woman applying there is highly likely to get assaulted. Which is also illegal. But this sounds like an employer who doesn't give a crap and expects to be able to abuse his power.
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I Really Hope This Doesn't Become A Thing
Applied For A Job Today. Went Well, I Think
Uh It's Called Guerilla Networking Sweaty, Totally Fair Game
I have 100% done this. Both ways. I have friends who have their own business, and now I do, too.
Same. Back in the "non-experienced days," it was the only way to get an interview!
Load More Replies...Is it fraudulent to put the friend you help move every year down as your employer when you are the one that drives the truck, loads it, delivers it, and takes it back? That's professional CDL Logistician right there...
Load More Replies...Some Reality I Found On Linkedin
Digital transformation basically means work anywhere anytime, something modern companies want and reorganize too but then demand everybody be in the office. Covid-19 forced everybody to work from home thus made Digital transformation happen.
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Waffle House Job Application
If you've been to a Waffle House on a weekend night, yes, being able to defend yourself seems like a really good idea.
People-Fed-Up-With-Job-Application-Recruiting-Hell
"Please Explain In Detail Why..."
We Value You...
Them - "We value you in ways that cannot be expressed in money" Me - "Try...."
I got a 3% raise put to me as "because you exceeded expectations." I mean, I am appreciative of any extra money, but I remember when that was a standard cost of living increase, in addition to a merit increase.
Recruiters Be Like
Awfull. People should have a life outside work. You need to disconnect. Pfff. Inconsiderate and inhumane interviewer. If I were the applicant I would just say "I just realised your company would bring nothing of value into my life, but only chaos and burnout." and walk out.
Understand it's kind of messed up from a normal point of view, but if I were the head of a computer game company, I would indeed look for people who enjoy programming games. And people who enjoy programming games definitely do it in their spare time. Not ALL their spare time, just some of it. And that is all the post asks, that they do some of it.
About 15 years ago, my brother wrote a program that "proposed" to his girlfriend, and if she clicked yes then the CD drive popped out and there was a ring in the tray. (If she clicked no it played sad music :-D)
My hb and father of our 3 year old is a senior software developer and programs for fun in his spare time. Sometimes I help - ui design, story, sounding board. It's not so unusual for software people to explore other types of coding outside work. I'm a technical author but I like writing other types of content outside work. Change is as good as a rest.
It Doesn't Really Do The Recruiter Much Good Either
Oh Sweet
When they lie like 4-year-olds do, without realizing how transparent they are as liars. Suppose location-based discrimination is actionable in the U.K.?
When You Just Put In Your 2 Weeks Notice At Your Current Job, Got Excited For Your New Job, And Then Came Across This Post On Reddit
Don't people normally sign contracts? I would not resign my old job if I did not have a signed contract from the new employer and if he decides to not employ me after signing my contract, I can sue him.
In the US a written and signed contract is very much the exception, not the rule. There is also the Employment At Will rule.
Load More Replies...This is illegal in civilized countries. You verbally agreed on a contract, so if one party bails out it needs to pay compensation.
In most countries, definitely Canada, this would be resolved as a breach of contract and the employer would have to compensate. It would be a slam dunk and labor lawyers dream case.
A colleague I worked with had the same thing happen. The Managing Director where he was going got up one morning and had changed his mind on the position and the guys life just fell in. Fully employed one minute, looking forward to a new job and then unemployed through no fault of his own.
It seems to me that even in the U.S. the employee might be able to sue in this situation. There was definitely a promise in writing, and there definitely were damages.
Remember, just because there is no formal written offer that there is no contract. Most legally binding agreements are not written but oral.
Time Travellers Required
The recruitment guys don't know anything about the jobs they recruit for and simply make crap up. They're often the used car salesmen of hiring.
A Realistic Rejection Letter On Linkedin
Added frustration: they never intended to hire anyone from the outside anyway, just audit their internal promotions against the open market value of skills and salary expectations
I take exception to complaints about the second to last paragraph (the one about individual feedback). I worked at a SME, literally 16 people, including me, and we once got over 200 applications for a single position (maternity cover if I remember rightly). You ain't getting 200 individual pieces of feedback on your CV from a 16 person enterprise - you got a form letter rejection if applicable (or a form letter inviting to interview) - mail merge was our friend there (Companies who cant even be bothered to do this are not worth working for - if we could do it, big corporates can do it). The ones who got an interview got individual feedback because there was only half a dozen of them.
God I Hate Linkedin
Hits Home
She Sounds Like A Delight To Work For
#80 I used to be one of the "loyal" to a company type, NO LONGER - The corporations do not give a flip about you, many a person has worked for 30+ years at a company, to be fired right before retirement and pension. Or firing all the "older" employee's to re-hire at much lower wages.
In an interview, the boss said he wanted me to violate a federal law on his say so. The interview was over. HR rep in the room was sympathetic. Other IT people astonished. I ain't freaking lying to you so I can take a job that requires the CEO to back me up.
Some of these are so unbelievable that it makes me think some people out there are just fulfills unemployment requirements.
You are applying for a job so you can have an experience but then they require you to have an experience? Seriously, wtf?
I applied for a job that asked "are you a dog or a cat person & what is your favourite brunch spot." I can't morph into any animal, but if I could, it would be a bear shark, and I've never eaten "brunch." I may have eaten a late breakfast or an early lunch, but I'm not a pretentious hipster, so it's still called breakfast or lunch.
They weren't asking what kind of animal you would become, they were asking if you preferred dogs or cats. If you prefer dogs, that means you would be considered loyal, obedient, & a follower; if you like cats more, then you are an independent thinker & might not "obey" all their rules. The brunch thing tho seems idiotic.
Load More Replies...If starting your own company is that easy, why don't YOU do it?
Load More Replies...#80 I used to be one of the "loyal" to a company type, NO LONGER - The corporations do not give a flip about you, many a person has worked for 30+ years at a company, to be fired right before retirement and pension. Or firing all the "older" employee's to re-hire at much lower wages.
In an interview, the boss said he wanted me to violate a federal law on his say so. The interview was over. HR rep in the room was sympathetic. Other IT people astonished. I ain't freaking lying to you so I can take a job that requires the CEO to back me up.
Some of these are so unbelievable that it makes me think some people out there are just fulfills unemployment requirements.
You are applying for a job so you can have an experience but then they require you to have an experience? Seriously, wtf?
I applied for a job that asked "are you a dog or a cat person & what is your favourite brunch spot." I can't morph into any animal, but if I could, it would be a bear shark, and I've never eaten "brunch." I may have eaten a late breakfast or an early lunch, but I'm not a pretentious hipster, so it's still called breakfast or lunch.
They weren't asking what kind of animal you would become, they were asking if you preferred dogs or cats. If you prefer dogs, that means you would be considered loyal, obedient, & a follower; if you like cats more, then you are an independent thinker & might not "obey" all their rules. The brunch thing tho seems idiotic.
Load More Replies...If starting your own company is that easy, why don't YOU do it?
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