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No job is ever going to be ‘perfect’—there will always be something that needs to be tweaked and fixed, always something to grumble and mumble about. At the same time, it’s incredibly important to have good working conditions, competent and positive management, a sense of purpose, and room for financial and career growth. If you’re waking up every morning dreading the day ahead, if you’re burned out beyond belief, something’s wrong and you need to fix it.
While some workers might be too timid (or too calculating) to raise their voices about important workplace issues, others throw caution to the wind and speak up. This article is about them. Bored Panda is featuring tweets from people who weren’t afraid to complain about their work and the job industry online, and some of them make some pretty good points.
Check out what they had to say, and as you’re scrolling down, remember to upvote the tweets that spoke to you the loudest, Pandas. Care to share a few thoughts about the tweets? Got some ideas about work-life (or, well, life-work) balance that you’d love to get off your chest? Tell us all about it, as well as your relationship with work, in the comments.
Workplace expert Lynn Taylor was kind enough to share her thoughts about the difference between complaining and constructive criticism to Bored Panda, as well as why it’s important to have potential solutions to problems in mind and to learn to ‘manage up.’ Lynn is the author of ‘Tame Your Terrible Office Tyrant: How to Manage Childish Boss Behavior and Thrive in Your Job’ and the head of the fashion brand ‘Behind the Buckle.’
"Diplomacy is what delineates complaining from constructive criticism—and good versus great employees. Strong emotional intelligence is at the core. And that’s a key trait of successful business leaders,” she shared with us.
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Contented potato. (They/them) 3 years ago
Ohh thank you. I understand now!
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Zenozenobee 3 years ago
You too? And you didn't magicaly became rich either? Maybe it's not the toast and latte.
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Zedrapazia 3 years ago
The rich people pay the advertisements that tell you to buy less avocado and Starbucks
Jessica Wood 3 years ago
And yet they also want you to buy avacados and Starbucks to make them richer.
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Vicky 3 years ago
Rich people are selfish, lazy brats. They only donate to charities that have the same goals as them, and only to get attention and tax breaks.
Lee Henderson 3 years ago
As Rom once said on Deep Space 9, the average Ferengi doesn't want to stop the exploiters, they want to BECOME the exploiters.
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Autistic Raven 3 years ago
It’s time we normalize calling Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk, Buffett, Gates, et al: Oligarchs.
Sheila Stamey 3 years ago
And before anyone says anything about x gen I'm over here early retirement due to severe physical disability,living in assisted living,with $66 a month for discretionary income because I have to pay everything for the Assisted Living. Not even complaining, glad I'm not homeless,I'd be dead. But, can someone please let me know what avocado toast is? Is it sliced avocado on toast? It sounds good.
Tyranamar Seuss 3 years ago
When I had it it was just mushed avocado on toast. Not very good. Guacamole with chips 100x better.
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BadCat 3 years ago
Tbh, I'm scrapping by with bus fare for the next week and I do sorta regret that hike to 7/11. But oh well. I just love the cheese burgers that much and they got dragonfruit slurpees right now. Am I glutton for poverty? Maybe.
Masen Silas 3 years ago
Little things make life worth living though. You can get the bus, get where youre going, go home and sleep only so much
Load More Replies... RoseAnne Hutchence 3 years ago
How to explain ambition and a work ethic = an excellent salary?
Don Drysdale 3 years ago
Dr. Richard Wolfe teaches Marxism for a living, and he's explained everything i needed to know in Marxism 101. this society IS a kindergarten.
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NPC#3.14 x 109 3 years ago
amen - and stop demonizing people struggling even more so while we're at it
Florida, but without the beach 3 years ago
This is just so concise and absolutely correct and should be on a shirt
Paul Neff 3 years ago
That MIGHT have been true several decades ago. Today, 6 figures is the new 5 figures.
Load More Replies... Don Drysdale 3 years ago
it didn't have to be the way it has, and there could of instead been socio-economic equality with the Marxist theories in practice.
Mary Elliott 3 years ago
You have to be significantly naive and probably below par intellectually not to understand that a person can not be a billionaire and not be evil, I don't care how many tax-write off philanthropies they have.
Tyranamar Seuss 3 years ago
I don't think they are evil. We all have our weaknesses and blind spots. They are human. And there are things about their assets we don't understand. They're not all liquid. But yes, they could be much more generous, especially to their workers. Let's not get all black and white or we'll never understand each other.
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v 3 years ago
There are many oppressors who are millionaires, let's say $100 million or less, that are closer to being homeless than they are to being a billionaire so are they to be included in this class solidarity?
Himiko 3 years ago
Yes I agree with you. In our economy 100 million isn't that much to last you a year.
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Brian Stanton 3 years ago
Most billionaires and millionaires dont pay ANY taxes….
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Timothy Patel 3 years ago
I’ve stopped eating chocolate and purchasing anything from Nestle’s. We cannot take them all on so let’s start with the most egregious. https://www.zmescience.com/science/nestle-company-pollution-children/.
Jane Cortez 3 years ago
Exactly. ALL the large corporations could easily implement the technology to change things. Big Oil is in bed with the Automotive Industry, eg. Cars have been deigned with thinner and thinner gauge steel, ( steadily decreasing since the 1960’s). Large corporations are pressing the ‘kill’ button on us and the world. Likely it will be too hard to grow crops because of extreme weather and eventually no seasons. ALL of the bananas we commonly buy are one variety, (if a disease hits like it did the rubber industry in South America for example). The documentary series, ‘This Giant Beast,’ carefully lays out a lot of very interesting current vulnerabilities our world faces). Who knows how long we have, really. No wonder all it’s all a race to get to Mars.
Don Drysdale 3 years ago
if we don't see it from a historic perspective there's a problem---the Billionaire club didn't begin ten years ago, it evolved from the first European settler exploitations, and it presently is the same systemic issue that it was then.
Don Drysdale 3 years ago
the Billionaire club didn't begin ten years ago, it is the result of the first capitalist pioneers, who evolved from settler's exploitation of the land and game for profit. it is presently a systemic issue as much as it ever was.
According to workplace expert and author Lynn, complaining is different from constructive feedback in three ways:
- “Complaining is a one-way street. Venting about a problem is rarely constructive. That is, unless you follow the complaint with actionable ideas.
- Conversely, constructive feedback creates a more two-way, open dialogue, with conflict resolution as the ultimate goal. Here, the person having issues actually wants to see a change, whereas a complainer is often someone who doesn’t expect anything to change. Their negative attitude can ultimately be self-fulfilling.
- There’s a fine line between complaining and wanting a mutually beneficial outcome. And that centers around knowing what your objectives are before you rant. Often, when people think about the outcome expected beforehand, they shift from a venting mindset to one of positivity. Their people savvy skills pave the way for better results.”
According to Lynn, the author of ‘Tame Your Terrible Office Tyrant,’ a positive aspect of a complaint is that you’re aware of the situation and trying to change the challenging circumstances. However, she argues, you have to be willing to take that to the next positive step.
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Colin Timp 3 years ago
Exactly. It's not that people don't want to work. It's that they don't want to work and still not be able to support themselves. If you're going to have a full-time job and still not be able to afford housing and food, you might as well not work.
SillyPandaBunny 3 years ago
How would you feel about it if the cost of living meant you were barely at the poverty line if you made $350k per year? It’s not about the amount but the ratio of that against the cost of living. We can continue raising minimum wage but it does nothing if billionaires then compensate by just charging even more for everything
SillyPandaBunny 3 years ago
It’s ironic because capitalism has the solution to all of this right in its name; cap, as in cap the prices greedy corporations can charge for products and services
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George Nichols 3 years ago
Heck I do it for 16$ an hour. After overtime I make about $1400 every 2 weeks. And my lot rent for my motor home is only 400 with electric, water and sewer included. I am rich b***h!
RoseAnne Hutchence 3 years ago
But any yokel can flip burgers. How many people dedicate themselves to years of education and long hours working? Add innovation and an entrepreneurial mindset = money well deserved.
Mary Elliott 3 years ago
Honestly, at this point, it would take a lot more than that to get me back into food service, especially at the fast food level. That is literally Hell on Earth.
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SillyPandaBunny 3 years ago
Because some religious nut forced their thinking on everyone, telling us what is moral and what is not. Like how is the beauty of one’s body bad? If someone wants to share that who cares!
Paul Neff 3 years ago
Religious nuts often see religion as a tool to manipulate others with. Every time it intersects with politics, this is the case.
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Riley Quinn 3 years ago
One of my biggest complaints when I hear ppl dissing sex workers. Manual labor in the trades/services industry is selling your body for a salary.
Max Robitzsch 3 years ago
Only because (depending on conditions) sex work is frowned up socially, and carries extra risks (neither of which is automatic). But "honest" work, as the poster points out, can very much include conditions that destroy body and soul too.
Load More Replies... The Other Guest 3 years ago
Guy buys you dinner & then you have sex: that's a date. Guy gives you enough cash to buy dinner & then you have sex: that's a crime. Make it make sense.
Remi (He/Him) 3 years ago
If you can make money by selling nekkid pics to the rich with ugly personalities, I'd say go for it! Rob 'em blind
Cpt. Robert Christian 3 years ago (edited)
I destroyed both of my shoulders, during my 15yr career as a Firefighter. I also have sleep disorders, acid reflux, back issues, and a few other souvenirs, from the job too. For this I get... Thank you for your service, but we will probably no longer be able to keep you on, in any capacity. I am 5yrs short of my full pension and paid health insurance. Hmph.
RoseAnne Hutchence 3 years ago
No matter the job, we are selling ourselves. It's on us to find the job we love so much the "sales" aspect ceases to matter.
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BadCat 3 years ago
Ever notice it's the people who don't care, don't obey, defy all the naysayers, go against the grain, take the biggest risks, drop out of college/high school, quit their first job because they can't stand being ordered around by a low paid manager who become the biggest successes? The difference between us and them is they have 0 notion of empathy, so scared of failing they'll do anything to stay ahead, focus only on their business and money, and basically be the very type of people we hate. Think about that for a moment.
Max Robitzsch 3 years ago
They also tend to have a lot of starting money and/or at very least a paid-up higher education. Very few are actually fully "self-made" when you look behind the scenes.
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Amanda Hunter 3 years ago
No, TAKE the sick days. I didn't and now regret it. Have NO Loyalty, look out for yourself in the workplace.
Alma Muminovic 3 years ago
They are all sociopaths and criminals. They just have money so they avoid prison. It’s no coincidence that half of them have photos with a pedophile..
funkybluegirl 3 years ago
I love Dan Price. If you aren't familiar with him, you should Google him.
Mosheh Wolf 3 years ago
I did google him. The first page of results are about the sexual assault allegations against him.
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“One of the best pieces of advice I can give to career-minded professionals is that before you issue a complaint verbally or in written form, have solutions ready,” she said. “Bosses are pre-disposed to wanting the least amount of burden on their plate, as they feel they have enough already. So when employees drain bosses with additional problems but offer nothing on the flipside, it’s career-limiting.”
Bosses tend to view complainers as people who have weak problem-solving skills. “You will ascend faster to senior management with such traits as independence, wisdom, resourcefulness, and patience to see a problem through. You may not have all the answers, but giving it your best shot is imperative,” the workplace expert told Bored Panda.
“Also whining to your colleagues is bad news because word can spread rapidly through office gossip. No one can eliminate commiseration or complaints from the workplace, as we’re all human. But everything has a degree… and everything has an outcome,” Lynn noted that employees should be careful about how they vent their dissatisfaction and anger.
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BadCat 3 years ago
I took quiet quitting literally. Only the managers and a few supervisors knew I put in my 2 weeks and some of them just found out today. I'm glad. The way I have been treated in the last 2 weeks really showed how they really felt about me.
Biliegh Berrie 3 years ago
Hope the folks at your next job are better people. Good luck!
Load More Replies... Max Robitzsch 3 years ago
Yes, fair point. I'm well paid, so I'm doing good work. But I've stopped acting (and guilt-ing) like the sky will fall if I don't do five tasks when I have time to do two well, or three shoddily.
Brian Stanton 3 years ago
I wish heard this years ago. Exploited for 8 years with more roles and responsibilities but no increases in pay….
RoseAnne Hutchence 3 years ago
Go for it! Wonderful opportunity for us ambitious types to be promoted, get raises.
Whatshername 3 years ago (edited)
I've been telling my boss "my salary doesn't cover that after hours meeting/working late/this responsibly/the stress" for years now. Doesn't do much for my wage but does wonders for their expectations towards me (yes they're still satisfied with me after 10+ years of working there).
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James016 3 years ago
🤣 I would love to have seen the reactions. Reminds me when I dropped my son off at school one day. As he was walking in he had this interaction with the head teacher: HT “Good morning”. SON: “No” and he carried on walking
Glenn Cuneo 3 years ago
was at a meeting at school, after school. At 3:05 pm on the dot I gathered my stuff and started to walk out. The Principal asked me rather loudly "going somewhere Mr Cuneo?" "Yeah, home I stopped getting paid at 3:05 and I don't work for free" and I left.
Alma Muminovic 3 years ago
They stop paying at 3:05, not when you clock out or salary? That’s sad, Im surprised we have any teachers at all at this point.
Load More Replies... Michael Largey 3 years ago
If you're not interested in the real answer, why bother to ask the question?
Virgil Blue 3 years ago
Hehe, being on the spectrum this was me before I learned people expect you to use "nice lies to make us feel good regardless" in those situations to be socially acceptable.
censorshipsucks 3 years ago
It's a side effect of ASD. I have it too. I also get called a "straight shooter". Basically we don't have social cue/filter features so we say what we think, mean what we say, and do not lie... even to spare your feelings. The truth is the truth.
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WildHoneyPie 3 years ago
Also my husband. He's a welder and consequently hard of hearing. Before he got hearing aids we were walking on a main street downtown during the Christmas season when a young man approached "Sir, do you have the Christmas spirit?". Husband snarls " No!" and walks on. He then turns to me "What did he say?". Meanwhile I'm laughing my a$$ off...
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Agfox 3 years ago (edited)
The Poster lives in the Northern Hemisphere, I see...where I live we hide from drop bears
Stoopham McFernybabes 3 years ago
We weren’t meant to work in December either. We’re meant to frolic at the beach, swim, play yard cricket with our kids and sit down with a coldie at the end of it.
Load More Replies... SillyPandaBunny 3 years ago
Depending on where you live because December could be the middle of warm season for many people
Ricardo Martìnez 3 years ago
And what about the Southern Hemisphere? Oh! So sorry! I forgot the Earth is flat....
“And of course, on social media, complaints can leave a permanent footprint—and the damage can run deep when you’re affecting your company’s reputation. Badmouthing a company publicly can also get you into legal hot water,” she pointed out that complaining isn’t as simple and straightforward as some would think. You have to be aware of the potential consequences.
“Managers expect you to share your issues privately and not drag the company through the mud. It’s also a dealbreaker for most prospective employers, as they don’t want to ‘be next.’ When raising an issue with your boss, you must put yourself in their shoes and realize they expect to work through solutions with you, that hopefully, you recommend.”
Workplace expert Lynn told Bored Panda about ‘managing up’ as a worthwhile skill to learn. According to her, it’s the antithesis of complaining and means deploying constructive criticism when necessary.
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UpQuarkDownQuark 3 years ago
*Good* employees only need two things: to feel like their work and effort is valued, and to be paid a living wage. If you do one or the other, you’ll have a productive workforce. If you do both, they will have your back, produce exceptional work, and stay at your company as long as they possibly can.
Okatango 3 years ago
Team building arises naturally when everyone gives and receives equal respect, and environment is created where everyone can openly ask for help, freely share their knowledge and work with integrity towards a common ethical goal. No annoying evening and weekend team building exercises will can replace that. It is what healthy societies are built on.
4th Account 3 years ago
I study business studies, and apparently that stuff is so workers dont feel alienated
Stannous Flouride 3 years ago
You spelled "feel like starting a union" wrong.
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Panda watcher 3 years ago
All team building events have ever proven to me is what I feared all along. Boss is as clueless in real life situations as in work. It’s embarrassing to watch how awkward, fake and I’ll-equipped he is. Can’t even order a f*****g sandwich without being a douche.
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Glenn Cuneo 3 years ago
Once applied for a job as a dishwasher in college. They said they wanted someone with 15 years experience. "Who the f**k washes dishes for 15 years?"
UpQuarkDownQuark 3 years ago
When they advertise entry-level, they’re only referring to the wages they want to pay you.
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Brian Stanton 3 years ago
I was at a University department for 8 years. Nearly everytime I met someone new and told my dept they always had something negative to say, even if its oh I heard somethings about them! Smh 🤦♂️ I kept deflecting to stay professional, and yes some bad apples were sorted. But it was mostly staff and professors quitting toxic management. I was the HR directors asst. Because my proximity, I would hear it all from both sides!
Brian Stanton 3 years ago
Sad part is most organizations always had a work from home policy, but are discriminatory who they allow to.
Amanda Hunter 3 years ago
After raising my children and supporting my husband in his career I found myself divorced. Started a career at 41 and effing hated it. I stuck at it, day after bloody day I showed up. Now, after retiring I see the benefits of sticking to it. Now I understand and am glad I stuck with with working.
RoseAnne Hutchence 3 years ago
Maybe spend some time looking for work you want to do and then try getting along with your co-workers?
“If you’re managing up properly, you’re a problem solver for your boss, not the other way around. You’re there to make life easier for your manager. That said, you should never suffer in silence. People should complain when their boundaries are crossed or when their job becomes untenable. For example, if that’s the case, you would want to complain to management or HR or a combination thereof,” she stressed the importance of speaking up when there’s something legitimately wrong.
“In my book, ‘Tame Your Terrible Office Tyrant: How to Manage Childish Boss Behavior and Thrive in Your Job,’ I talk about the acronym CALM. That stands for Communicate, Anticipate, Laugh, and Manage. When you have conflict at work, the first thing you need to do is stay calm. Think things through before speaking; you’ll get a better result,” she said.
“Also, ‘anticipate’ their answer. If you’re complaining, the automatic reaction in business is, ‘Okay, so what do you suggest?’ And oftentimes the employee does know the answer better than the boss, as they’re closer to the situation.”
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Vasana Phong 3 years ago
This is my week: wake up at 5:30 to get ready, clock in at 8:30, out by 5-traffic due to the construction, home by 5:40, Saturday run around do all errands/ clean house, Sunday to mom’s ,help her there, get home later in evening, prep things for work, sleep, repeat. I know someone has it worse, just giving you my schedule
Makajha Banjjjak 3 years ago
I'm glad I work from home, I wake up 8.55 and clock in at 9😁
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Michael Largey 3 years ago
The phrase "days off" seems to imply that the workplace is your natural and permanent location.
The Other Guest 3 years ago
The 40 hour work week was created back when the husband went out and earned a wage, and the wife stayed home doing the cooking, cleaning, shopping, child-rearing, appointment-making, etc. This allowed for relaxing weekends/vacations (although the wife still usually did cooking & childcare at the bare minimum during this "down time".) Now, both spouses often work outside the home, leaving precious little time for the cooking, cleaning, etc. and virtually no time to relax.
Miss Cris 3 years ago
Now, peoñle should have 20 hour work to be able to live properly. What happened to salaries?
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Jason Mills 3 years ago
I actually like running errands. I usually ride my motorcycle and its therapeutic to get things done. I don't know why but it helps me decompress.
Amber.exe (She/They) 3 years ago
I'm in high school,and have work(mostly nights) fri-sun. If I spend most time on them weekends sleeping because I work all night
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a fruity dream of delusion 3 years ago
the true dreams is being with your pet all day… one reason i liked quarantine
ItsJess 3 years ago
I'm one of those weird people who absolutely loved it. I didn't have any social obligations and I just read books, played video games, and took lots of walks.
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Ange Marsden 3 years ago
Can everyone please bring them to work so I can have cuddles all day?
Kristie French 3 years ago (edited)
One of the reasons I changed jobs to a remote job. Best decision I ever made. Cat in my lap, dog under my chair, all the workday long. They are happier and calmer too.
Seedy Vine 3 years ago
We shouldn't have to leave our families and loved ones daily in order to afford our lives. Can't we do better?
SillyPandaBunny 3 years ago
This is why I stay at my job. I get to stay home with my baby all day every day and I don’t think I could ever go back
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Paul Neff 3 years ago
lol, the robots are not going to be what we expect. We keep thinking movie themed self aware humanoid machines. Try more like remote operated mechanical bodies for those unable to work in person, due to age or handicap. The thinking computers may still come, but this feels closer.
Panda watcher 3 years ago (edited)
I disagree. Self driving vehicles will solve delivery and logistic costs. Amazon will have even more profits. Drones are doing more and jobs. Machines can be and are built to be self sufficient for centuries. Self maintenance is already a reality in car mfg. and widget mfg….Robotic surgeries are in use more and more… and they are better than human Drs. The medical field is going to see some real AI advancements in the next 10 yrs. Those convenient telemedicine appts you’ve enjoyed since COVID…can be done by computer and probably with higher accuracy. Triage will be automated with no human decision making. Symptoms, diagnosis, prescription, medical documentation, all by an artificial program. Consider, the reason the tools, housed items, shoes, everything we buy break and fall apart so quickly now is on purpose. So we will buy more! We have the ability and certainly the technology to build strong, solid, lasting equipment…. But companies purposely use materials they know have a shorter life expectancy…..so instead of me needing and buying a vacuum cleaner every 25 yrs, I buy one every 5 yrs. The machines now in use to build my vacuum cleaner were engineered by a computer program and transferred to machinery that requires no human assembly on the production lines. That’s why everything is now sent to us in parts that we put together on living room floor when after we purchased.
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Erin Witzke 3 years ago
Get the damn robots. Make us all engineers with living wages. At least that way we don’t have to deal with the people.
Panda watcher 3 years ago
AI programs are better engineers than us. They can detect proficiency bottlenecks and create an improved models. They can do the testing mathematically before money is wasted manufacturing a prototype that doesn’t work. No need for either of those jobs any longer. Research and development can also be done with more accuracy and at a fraction of the time by systems that only know how to be perfectly accurate every time. The stymies now in language AI technology is due to us humans failing to recognize or completely understand communication. Computers communicate perfectly. Have you seen that video of 2 AIs conversing and learning and adapting to each other. It’s scary…but amazing
Load More Replies... Cpt. Robert Christian 3 years ago
Companies are trying to build for my job, unfortunately (or fortunately) they are not able to perform vertical ventilation, transitional attack strategies, primary search and rescue, rapid intervention team, ice rescue, swiftwater rescue, collapsed structure rescue, confined space rescue, high angle rescue, low angle rescue, vehicle extrication rescue, and EMS in the back of a moving ambulance. This not counting deploying hand & supply lines, monitors, driving & operating a Fire Apparatus, etc. Some are at least able to perform basic suppression attack, a basic search, and basic forcible entry. So there is that.
Panda watcher 3 years ago
It sounds like you are in a life saving position, and I thank you and have humble respect and gratitude. But firemen and police officers roles are already being replaced by robotic and drone controlled machines. Robot cops are being used to go into dangerous busts and warrant serving tasks. They can enter a home, photo and assess the situation, identify how many humans and weapons are in the dwelling. Plus, their presence is less agitating to the criminals so situations escalate less often. Heat sensors, long range satellite systems can accurately and quickly identify the hottest parts of house fires and will soon be able to robotically extinguish the fire with no loss of life to firemen. Military equipment to read where humans are in dangerous situations will be utilized to locate victims faster. They can work on a patient in extreme conditions where human rescuers have to get the person to a safer area first. The robotic fireman or coast guard swimmer could be performing CPR, using
Load More Replies... Biliegh Berrie 3 years ago
All the stores now, convenient stores as well are all being done with self check out. Let's not rush the robot talk. It's already started
Meanwhile, the L part of CALM stands for ‘levity’ (i.e. humor), “which helps when you’re struggling with an issue, assuming your boss is not toxic. For example, levity reduces tension barriers and can smooth the way to conflict resolution.”
Finally, the M in the acronym means ‘manage.’ “That’s using positive and negative reinforcement to affect behaviors. People ages 2 to 62 are no different when it comes to core human emotions, such as praise, fear, and rejection. So when you have something negative to say, couch it in between ‘positive bookends.’"
The workplace expert shared an example of how an employee might use the CALM approach when speaking to management about a problem. You could try something like this: “‘I really like my job. But something set me back yesterday and I wanted to talk to you about it.’ That’s followed by constructive criticism. At the end of the conversation is something like, ‘Thank you for taking the time to talk through this with me. I really do enjoy working here and with you.’”
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Elaine Morinelli 3 years ago
Yeah it's called COVID lockdown. It was great! So quiet! And less pollution.
Harley Lee 3 years ago
Remember the news stating how the ‘environment recovered’ because we weren’t running around. Sad
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Soozie Poozie 3 years ago
I read somewhere on BP that humans are the only species in the world "dumb enough to PAY money to live on earth... every other species are born and live out their lives for FREE on this planet."
Panda watcher 3 years ago
We pay because we value and strive for the wrong things. I know what you are saying…But other species don’t live their lives for free….they work very hard to survive. The difference is, their priorities are balanced. We take more than we need, destroy everything in our paths and arrogantly place ourselves above all other living things on earth. We are dumb for sure….the dumbest inhabitants on earth.
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Katie Lutesinger 3 years ago
When we were in COVID lockdown I discovered that when I was feeling trapped or stressed, instead of rushing off somewhere to shop or go to the movies or otherwise distract myself, I could simply go and sit in the garden and listen to the birds and watch the flowers nodding in the wind. It taught me a lesson I didn't even know I needed about the importance of taking some time to be still and quiet instead of insisting upon keeping yourself busy 24 hours a day.
Seedy Vine 3 years ago
Sadly at this point I'm just waiting for the afterlife so I can finally do what I want to then, hopefully.
Vicky 3 years ago
Imagine if the store was within walking distance of your house. By walking distance, I mean you can walk there and back in about 15-20 minutes each way, without having to cross a 4-lane road and worry about idiot drivers turning you into roadkill. Gas would be a luxury, used only for leaving town on vacation, and the rising prices wouldn't be so bad.
Richard Campbell 3 years ago
Mm, this is actually quite powerful to read. So much of our lives are not our own.
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BadCat 3 years ago
Because it's treated like it is a crime. I was forced doxxed hours after coming back from a terrible respiratory infection and flu (this was long pre-covid), and berated and HR believed I was sick because I "couldn't handle the job". I literally called them at the hospital, barely able to speak and I sounded like I had emphysema. At the hospital. When I called they were begging me to try to come in. A week later, I wasn't completely feeling better but well enough to stick it out and the supervisors were complaining how my voice was sounding. They were explaining to me how I was sounding like I was oblivious at the same time purposely sounding like that and told me to stop. When I told them I had Bronchitis the jerk said "So? I had a cold and I don't sound like that. Now stop sounding hoarse." I could have taken his damn headset wires and wrap them around his neck and smash a monitor in his face. I had a lot of violent thoughts in that job.
Remi (He/Him) 3 years ago
Hopefully people have learned from covid that if you have a flu or any kind of communicable desease, you should stay the eff home. Going to work sick doesn't make you a hero, it makes you a villain called Super-Spreader
Annie 3 years ago
It's a double-edged sword: If you call in sick, employers act like it's a crime & other employees act like you're just pretending to be sick to get time off. If you come into work while you're sick, employers & other employees treat you like a monster who's brought the plague into the building. I got COVID in January & my employer sent a laptop home so I could work on reports WITHOUT asking me if I felt well enough to work, called me constantly to ask how I was progressing on the reports because THEY had a deadline, then expected me to come back ASAP whether I felt better or not. Gee, I wonder why employees have zero loyalty to employers nowadays?
censorshipsucks 3 years ago
the martyrdom around being sick at work is utter buslshit. You bring f*****g plague to the office and make everyone else sick then they have to carry the financial cost going to the doctor due to your exploittaion by the f*****g capitalist.
Vasana Phong 3 years ago (edited)
Talk about a guilt trip, everyone calls out for for broken fingernail, nothing, me with when got a real bad respiratory infection and bad reaction to meds, was questioned why I took a day off, 15 years in, 800 hours of sick time, glad I left, regret not using my sick time
Toni Maroni 3 years ago
This must be America at its worst. I stay at home for about 8 weeks now in cause of burnout. And everyone on my job is caring me. Especially my boss. Cause he needs me. I get still paid. No one tells me I have to come back. Also my boss tells me, I should get healthy again, and it takes as long as it takes. Possible I live in a civilised country with universal healthcare. And no, it is not a communism country. Socialism is not so bad as your government try to opress to you.
Panda watcher 3 years ago (edited)
I wish Americans would read this and believe you. This is the core of our problems and why we don’t advance, but have actually regressed as a society. We are fed such lies about other countries and systems. We’ve been brainwashed and told we are the best, we are the smartest, strongest, happiest, etc,… since most Americans never travel outside our borders and have no experience with other cultures, they remain ignorant and are so vain, if they don’t understand something, they dismiss deny it.
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Wondering Alice 3 years ago
I was sick in high school. Doctor sent a 4 year sick note, but it didn't stop the school going on and on how it would ruin my record of achievement and I would never be able to get a job. Decades later, I still drag myself in to work when I shouldn't - despite my lovely HR finding this annoying. If I call in sick, my job gets covered but If I try to work when sick things get missed. Still, hard to break the programming from childhood.
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a fruity dream of delusion 3 years ago
HAH- that is acutally something i wonder about vampire stories.. of all the things you can do, you chose high school???
Jordi Sharpe 3 years ago
Where better to perv out on young girls? Seriously, that series is uber problematic.
Load More Replies... Brian Stanton 3 years ago
Celebrate Labor Day and read up on it! We only have 40 because of blood shed for that fight! If companies had their way, there would be zero limit!
Jason Mills 3 years ago
I work shift work, 12 hours a day, rotating nights/days and I have a 45 mile commute that takes 45 minutes to an hour and a half depending on traffic. Makes for a 15 hour day including getting ready. No time to workout or do anything but get ready for work and get ready for bed. Because of coworkers being on quarantine we're shorthanded. I just worked 15 days straight and then had 2 days off. About to work another 15 days straight. Only working 40 hours a week sounds like a vacation. I'd have so much more free time. I could even work out everyday.
Jerry Mathers 3 years ago
On that same note, why were they in high school. I mean clearly they had money. And after the 100 plus years, they had to have gotten that high school education. Were they just window shopping for forbidden foods?
Lynn suggested choosing courage over comfort and taking the leap to air your concerns at work. “Just use a heavy dose of emotional intelligence and take a positive, constructive route.”
The responsibility shouldn’t just fall on the employees’ shoulders when it comes to adopting a more constructive approach to criticism. Managers also need to heed the complaints that might come their way.
“Employees are mere mortals and tensions can run high in the office. So it behooves management to encourage feedback—even if it doesn’t come in the most diplomatic form. Managers who operate in a vacuum will never succeed long term. They are only as good as their team,” Lynn explained.
“Strong business leaders can also model the right behavior for sharing criticism. For example, in meetings, successful executives know how to use diplomacy and share feedback constructively,” the workplace expert told Bored Panda.
“When emotionally intelligent managers who have an issue with an employee’s opinion or action share their contradictory perspective, employees don’t even feel they have been challenged! They set the example.”
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Freya the Wanderer 3 years ago
People who brag about how much they work per week are slaves who kiss their chains.
Alma Muminovic 3 years ago (edited)
I worked 80+ hr weeks as a server for a restaurant in Miami. Not because I wanted to but because management refused to hire new staff even tho we were really short staffed for months claiming that no one fits their “standards.” I remember telling my manager I don’t want to be scheduled 80 hrs Im tired and she said too bad we need you and kept scheduling me 6 days a week 15hrs a day.
Remi (He/Him) 3 years ago
Shouldn't that be illegal? There are laws in place about your maximum ovetime where I'm from.
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Timmy Pillinger 3 years ago
Also if your work is that worthwhile why have you not hired an assistant?
liam newton-harding 3 years ago
You work for Amazon, don't you...because you know your reply is NOT the point of this post.
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Kristin Gullard 3 years ago
My boss reduced all our hours to 35 a week and we are all so much happier. And everything still gets done.
Seedy Vine 3 years ago
I absolutely need this. I have only so many useful hours in me left anyway.
BadCat 3 years ago
If you work a shitty job it doesn't matter how more or less you work, you still come away with trauma and stress you take with you home. I've worked part time and then full time, and it didn't make much difference in my mental health.
Alma Muminovic 3 years ago
I dunno if I can say the same. Ive worked 80+ hr weeks and I’ve worked part time and while I agree if the job is shitty you dread going either way but 80hrs a week of s**t is way worse then 20-30 hrs of s**t. It means getting no break from it and getting a break and the break is much needed.
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JaimeeJames WD 3 years ago
I work a 34 hour work week because I have disabilities and am the sole parent of two kids with disabilities. I work four long days and have one day a week off for therapies and other appointments. I still struggle to cope and of course my pay reflects my less than full time hours. I’m still lucky that I earn enough for it to be an option but I’m pretty sure I’m just a productive as my full time colleagues.
Dale Thompson 3 years ago
Wife and I work three days a week… granted it’s higher wage than minimum but we love it, work from home, three days a week is amazing. More time for hobbies and relaxing together.
There’s a lot to be said for voicing your opinion, especially when you’re scared of the consequences. How you phrase things, the tone of voice that you use, how you approach difficult managers—all of these things matter.
If your goal is to make some long-lasting changes in a potentially toxic or high-stress environment, then it’s vital to be diplomatic and empathetic, even if you don’t really feel like it. Rudeness and abuse should not be tolerated in the workplace. Though it’s also important to remember that your superiors are also human beings just like you—imperfect, probably overworked, and not fully aware of their flaws. As in all areas in life, clear communication wins the day.
No matter how awesome or terrible your coworkers are, at the end of the day, you yourself bear the weight of responsibility for your own happiness, job satisfaction, and ambitions. Yes, your job should absolutely give you a fair wage, opportunities for growth, and provide at least some greater purpose for your daily tasks to help keep you motivated.
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Zenozenobee 3 years ago (edited)
My grand father had 10years after retirement, my uncle got 8, my MIL got 2, my neigboor is dying from her cancer when she should have retire next year. All these wonderful people had plans for their free time when retired. All of them had partner and loved ones they were supposed to spend time with. We definitivly should live today instead of planing for good time later.
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Remi (He/Him) 3 years ago
This is why people need to have paid vacation days. Did you know there is a common practice in Finland where you get a whole bunch of paid time off per year (sick days don't reduce these, btw) and on top of that every july you get an actual vacation bonus! We're talking something like half a months wage or more as a "so you're taking time off, here's some extra money" kind of thing
censorshipsucks 3 years ago
South Africa mandates a certain number of sick days and a separate batch of days off, about two per month, so effectively about 24 days. We also have 12 public holidays so you have about 36 days off in SA.
Load More Replies... SillyPandaBunny 3 years ago
Saddest thing I heard was about this guy at work, really nice people person who easily worked 60+hours a week his whole career and was expected to wine and dine the clients on his own time, finally retired at 70. At 70 people, that in itself is crazy, then he promptly died 2 weeks into retirement. He never got to just spend time with his family
censorshipsucks 3 years ago
I realised this was b******t when I was just a kid. I used to ask my dad why he didn't just work less and enjoy life more. He actually went to work early and left late. He was a mere clerk.
UpQuarkDownQuark 3 years ago
Some bad choices mixed with bad luck mean I’m never going to be able to retire. I seriously wonder if I’m going to end up homeless when I can’t work anymore. Would that make me lucky if I was well enough to work until I died? I can’t tell.
Bi-Polar Express 3 years ago
My grandpa is in his 4th decade of retirement. I'll retire 10 years older than he did. Women in my profession have a 90 year life expectancy. That will be 36 years of retirement after 39 years of working in my current job.
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Paul Neff 3 years ago
I hate to use the phrase here, but it fits too well. You are comparing apples and oranges. Unless someone else owns the land, (a perversion of economy), a farmer works for themselves, and ideally is self reliant. A wage slave more often compares to a cog in a machine.
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BadCat 3 years ago
But some people don't take much time to get ready and don't have a long commute, and shut off the work mindset once the shift is done. I even had a paid 30 minute lunch break. I guess it depends on the labour laws where you live what paid/unpaid breaks you're allotted. Some people, like my mom, enjoy getting ready because it's self-care time for them. Whereas I just need 10 minutes to brush my hair, brush my teeth, go to the washroom, wash my face, while waiting for the water to boil to make my instant coffee. I get dressed in something comfortable and go to the living room (Well, at the job that's now once was. I now have a 20 minute bus ride and just applied for the new discount bus fare program for low income people.). So, how would a business determine what is a reasonable compensation? What proof would the employees have to provide? Would it be evenly doled out to everyone? Or would there be some conflict?
SobyKay 3 years ago
I know I've praised working from home so much, as it really has transformed my life, but just one more post - I didnt realize how much of my time was sucked up by work that wasn't even work-related, as the above mentioned, until I made this change.
Panda watcher 3 years ago
So true! We go into office 1 day a week now, you know,” for collaboration, community, being a team” RME…. But even managers are having to admit that our 1 day in office is the least productive work day. Haha… but they still drink the Koolaid and long for the days they could walk around, interrupt me for nothing and feel like a great manager who’s in touch with her team. Omg…. It’s beyond stupid.
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So how's the past 2 years of working from home been feeling for you guys? Round about 40 hours?
tirebiter 3 years ago
The 40 hour work week is a relatively new change. It used to be common for 6 12-hour day work weeks. Unions changed that along with many other worker benefits. Thats why businesses have convinced workers that Unions are evil.
Panda watcher 3 years ago
I believe Henry Ford enacted the 5 day work week in US ( or so I was taught)…but most mfg plants were still employing children, so not sure how long it took other industries to follow his lead.
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Upstaged75 3 years ago
Which is why working from home is the best thing to come out of the pandemic. I'd like to say a big FU to my company who is now making us come to the office 2 days a week when we have been functioning perfectly well at home for over 2 years. They say it's so we can "collaborate" which is total BS. Everyone still sits in their offices alone and emails the person right next door. They simply need to justify the rent on the stupid building. It's a total waste of everyone's time.
But beyond that, it’s really down to you to find that deeper, personal meaning in your daily grind. If your workplace has pretty adequate work conditions and management isn’t squeezing you dry, it might be time to reevaluate how you approach work as a whole. Some people might feel burned out because they always go above and beyond without receiving any tangible reward, and sacrifice their health and free time for this. Others find that they simply aren’t passionate about their jobs beyond making enough money to keep a roof over their heads and putting food on the table. Whatever the particular issue might be, solving it should be priority number one.
Life coach Lindsay Hanson put it very well during her interview with Bored Panda, that each and every one of us is responsible for setting the boundaries for what we’re willing to tolerate. Both at work and elsewhere.
"If you feel that there's nothing you can do to change the situation and the company or people involved are unwilling to change, then you have to decide whether you're willing to stay in that environment or not," she said.
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Seedy Vine 3 years ago
And no homework! That's child abuse. Don't make kids do overtime wtf
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BadCat 3 years ago
I just had my last shift today. I've been checked out ever since I put in my 2 weeks. It really riled up the supervisors. We'd get monitored frequently and fill out form on how we're doing, if we're following instructions. Didn't think anyone would bother with me. Hoo boy. They targeted me more than I have been in a long time in the last week. Not sure why. My scores don't matter anymore. They're just salty their project wasn't going well due to the project itself and looking for an employee to blame. I was checked out, did the bare minimum while still getting work done. I'm hoping I really like my new job, and will be something I can actually look forward to going to everyday.
Patrick Linnen 3 years ago
Netherlands for the win with an average work week of under 30 hours.
Alma Muminovic 3 years ago
4 day work week is ideal. 1 day off for chores, 1 for chill/rest and one for hobby/fun. People would be so much happier.
Bryn 3 years ago
So then your brain would stop checking in on Thursday so that doesn't make sense.
Michael Largey 3 years ago
The key is never to let your mind check in at work in the first place. In most jobs, it just gets in the way.
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Firstname Lastname 3 years ago
Honestly, give me the weekend and Wednesday instead of Friday. Coming back after 3 days off is harder for me than taking just two days of torture at a time.
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Trentin Quarantino 3 years ago
The word quitting needs to be removed. We're not quitting, we are doing the job we're paid for.
Alvia Vseobecna 3 years ago
I would rebrand it to quiet working... let's not overdo the work enthusiasm, being compensated is OK.. as long as basic work requirements are met, no one can do anything about it
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James016 3 years ago
The 4 and a half months I was furloughed during the pandemic were the best despite having to take a 20% pay cut. Got to spend time with my family that I never would have done. I got to switch off completely from work. There was also a prolonged heatwave so I spent every day out in the garden sunbathing. So much that my psoriasis cleared up for a while. Mentally I felt better than ever.
Orange Frosting 3 years ago
I didn't know that sun exposure helped with psoriasis. I'm sure the lack of stress also helped to clear it up.
Load More Replies... Michael Largey 3 years ago
Correct. That's why businesses offer people money to show up. Lots of money might not bring you happiness, but it will bring you employees.
Superninjatiger 3 years ago
"Nobody wants to work anymore" have been a thing that they said since atleast the end of the 1800, people have never wanted to work and always blamed the next generation while their own generation in that case wanted to work less than the generation before them. We are just becoming more and more aware of how much free time is worth and how much we are worth as humans, and the dynamics in families have changed - for example there's less women who stay at home than the generation before(and its awesome that women have more chances to work and build careers!!), back then it could make sense that men worked 40h/week, but now when both adults in a home works 40h the time for cleaning, laundry, errands, cooking and so on no longer exist. There's no longer one who takes care of the home and one who works, and both too often don't have time or are paid enough by their work to be comfortable.
Superninjatiger 3 years ago (edited)
Before anyone says anything: people who lives alone don't have the time for both work, free time and the things needs to be done either, there's just so many hours of the week.
Load More Replies..."A good question to ask yourself is, even if this toxic situation were to change, would I still want to work here?" the life coach noted this is something every employee should genuinely answer for themselves when considering the future of their career. It helps inform their next decisions, whether they should stick it out and help change things for the better, or bite the bullet and change jobs.
According to Lindsay, the very idea that you can’t change your work situation due to various reasons, whether it’s the pandemic or something else, is very limiting. “There are still companies hiring. There are still ways to make money on your own. There is always a way to change your current situation—telling yourself you're stuck feels very limiting,” she shared some thoughts on how to get past the idea that you’re ‘stuck’ in your current position forever.
"Again, it comes back to what you're willing to tolerate. You can do everything in your power to bring attention to the toxic situation and attempt to change it. And at the end of the day, you always have control over your own mindset, how you're reacting to the situation, and how much you let it affect you,” she said.
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sofacushionfort 3 years ago
Or an EMT’s annual salary equals 20 half-hour trips in the ambulance where she works.
Sunshine Daydream 3 years ago
True- How much are doctors and hospitals raking in? Maybe some of that loot could pay EMT’s what they are worth
Anne Reid 3 years ago
Or the upper management of said hospitals who vastly out earn the doctors?
Load More Replies... Cpt. Robert Christian 3 years ago
Parking space, hotel room, airline fare, train fare, concert/sport stadium tickets all make more than you do as an Emergency Medical Technician or I do as Fire Captain.
Well-Dressed Wolf 3 years ago
Thank you for risking your life for others. I know that words do not make up for the current unfair state of wages/earnings, but I personally appreciate what you and every other person in your career do for the rest of us :)
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I've never been more afraid of being injured than finding out some EMTs make less than people working at Chik-Fil-A. I kinda want the person who is capable of saving my life to not be considering slinging fried chicken for work while I'm bleeding out in the street.
Panda watcher 3 years ago (edited)
LOL!!! Hilarious …I mean the analogy is hilarious, not your inequality. We appreciate and need you. Healthcare workers are such a special breed…I hope you have some job satisfaction.
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a fruity dream of delusion 3 years ago
and the one with corrupt people, governments, poverty, global warming… ah, now i’m sad :,) let me go back to my cloud of denial :-:
BadCat 3 years ago
I like to wonder closer to Earth. Out of all the species on Earth, we're born human and must slave away rather than be free animals and live off the Earth, completely self-efficient. (Don't give me that "Oh, so you want to be hunted and eaten" bull c**p. Humanity is so terrible we kill each other in the most gruesome, torturous, terrible ways, sometimes for no reason, and we still get hunted in the wilderness when we're not careful, too.)
Bi-Polar Express 3 years ago
And no idea how hard people worked to get you that 40 hour work week. 40 hours out of 168. Ask someone really old what was expected and how they didn't get paid for overtime. This three day weekend is about those people and what they worked to get for you. The real problem is that people treat those who come up with terrible ideas, like every gig economy company, as if they are geniuses. No. You are being just as exploited by your own generation as by the old rich guys. You just accept it more.
That nerd Zoe ️🇺🇦️ 3 years ago
Yessir. Hopefully in my next life I'll be somewhere else (or I won't have a next life lol)
Michael Largey 3 years ago (edited)
On Planet Walmart, they have 70-hour work weeks - and the days there are only 12 hours long.
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Harley Lee 3 years ago
Not to mention how it weighs on u throughout the weekend lol
Load More Replies... Patrick Linnen 3 years ago
We had an open policy, thankfully supported by our division managers, back when working hours were more formally organized that anything that came in after 1300 Friday that was not an absolutely, positively, pants-on-fire emergency would be put off until the following Monday. The last part of the day was reserved for things that had to be done before the weekend hardware maintenance.
Cara G 3 years ago
"Pants-on-fire" is an expression that really deserves to be trotted out more frequently.
Load More Replies... Makajha Banjjjak 3 years ago
Yesterday I had a rude manager asking some passive aggressive questions at 17.10. I closed my computer then and there
Bi-Polar Express 3 years ago
Everyone here gets off at 3? Or you just don't work the last few hours and you think that's a virtue? Don't take it home with you, but do your job while you are there.
Ria C. 3 years ago
I work 7-3:30 so unless it is a quick reply. It ain't happening till Monday.
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Eddy Ng, the Smith Professor of Equity & Inclusion at Queen’s University, reminded Bored Panda that if there are constant derogatory comments and unwelcome jokes at work, then a human rights complaint might be the best way forward. Employers can be held responsible for inaction.
"If repeated complaints about the toxic workplace to the manager or HR fall on deaf ears, then it is indicative that the employer is not taking the concern seriously and it's the cue that you should switch employers/workplace," he said.
At the same time, if your employers actually show signs that the organization is responding to worker feedback, it’s worth acknowledging this. "If management makes an effort for change, then it would be an opportunity to assist with that change," he said.
"Generally, it is easier to look for another job while you are still in one, so you don't have to explain gaps in employment or past problems with a prospective employer," the professor told Bored Panda earlier. He added that switching careers can be the perfect opportunity to take stock, engage in some career planning, and explore how to transition to new and perhaps even different positions.
Retooling and adapting can help you switch career lanes. Hopefully, something that you feel gives you a much greater sense of purpose, satisfaction, and, well, happiness. Where the only complaints you hear at your new job concern not microwaving fish in the kitchen.
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Linda Lee 3 years ago
I'm meant to bake cookies, and cakes, and give them to my friends, family, and neighbors. I want to share the fruits of my labor.
Nightshade 3 years ago
I love baking, cakes, cookies, pies, anything, and would love do that and share the works with people
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Harley Lee 3 years ago
Sometimes I feel shame for wanting to tell the truth- that I just want to rest recover and go no where lol
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Well-Dressed Wolf 3 years ago
Co-worker friend: “I have Wednesday off too! Let’s hang out!” Me, inside: no i need the day to recuperate my sanity from working
Analyn Lahr 3 years ago
I'm fortunate to work for a company that shuts down on major holidays so I get Labor Day (US) off. I'm planning on using the long weekend to straighten up my bedroom and and watch some movies.
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Biliegh Berrie 3 years ago
I was born in the 70's. We are not programmed that way. We always work our best.
Bi-Polar Express 3 years ago
Yeah, just do the least. That's not what you would expect from any person you dealt with at their job.
Michael Largey 3 years ago
If you're ever taken to the emergency ward with a heart attack, I hope the staff there don't feel that way.
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Joshua Moore 3 years ago
My dream job was to play 1st base for the NY Mets, but I'm short, fat, lack overall coordination and trip over air, so there went that dream. 🤷😢
Katie Lutesinger 3 years ago
I had a dream that my sister had built a chicken coop and I was going to go and see a stage production of "Bambi" with my mother that afternoon and then Peter Dinklage showed up and gave me some useful advice on how to avoid being hit on by creepy guys. So I didn't dream of being at work either.
Idéfixette 3 years ago
Working/labor is not synonym with contributing to society. A 100% of the 'contributing' I do, I do outside of work hours : giving plasma and blood, shopping local whenever I can, helping the homeless, donating stuff, etc. So basically, if I didn't have to work I'd be able to contribute way more to society!
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Sue User 3 years ago
I reached the point of cynicism where I think the boss's boss knew. They intentionally hired someone to be a hatchet man ( someone who gets rid of employees ). They still think that if everone quits, they can just hire someone cheaper and " more dedicated". The boss's boss gets credit ( probably a bonus ) for saving money. If it goes badly, they just blame it on the new boss and fire him. The problem with corporate culture is not that the workers cant succeed. It that the bosses cant fail.
Load More Replies... Zenozenobee 3 years ago
"believing in working from home"... Well, if it's a new religion, I'm going to considere not being an atheist.
Michael Largey 3 years ago
Another reason not to come back is that bad bosses never have just one bad idea.
Julie 3 years ago
I got two promotions while WFH. It made me realize that the time spent trying to de-anxiety about being in the office and being full of anxiety about being there was hindering my productivity and was just really distracting. I asked to be demoted back to my original position recently in anticipation of having to go back to the office. I don't want to work so closely with management in person. I don't think I will be able to.
Upstaged75 3 years ago
Working from home isn't Tinkerbell. It's real. I would have told him to go f**k himself. My company wants me back 2 days a week and I'm considering looking for a new job. I'm just not meant to work in an office.
Zintoki 3 years ago
This work with senior workers but how you train new workers? Will you take them to your home?
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Jason Mills 3 years ago
I'm glad someone finally said they like working. I love working, its part of who I am.
TheEndIsNigh🇨🇦and🇬🇧in🇺🇲 3 years ago (edited)
I enjoy working as well. I've never been in the position where I had to work, but have done so since I was 16 y/o. It's helped a lot with my sensory issues and navigating the subtle nuances of neuro-typical interactions. I've met loads of interesting people, had a great(but ultimately stressful) career in veterinary medicine, and now I work in research. I go into the lab 1 day a week and work the rest from home entering data and writing up my findings. I could quit this very second and never have to worry, but I do rather like the sense of discovery & accomplishment. 😊
Load More Replies... Michael Largey 3 years ago
Even self-employed people get their money from someone else. (Exception: counterfeiters.)
frederick clause 3 years ago
In many situations people enjoy the work, it's the job they hate.
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Well-Dressed Wolf 3 years ago
I asked for a transfer to another store as the one I’d worked at for 2 1/2 years was a horrible work environment. I was “let go” a few weeks after requesting the transfer XD Heard from other co-workers that their requests for raises were outright denied. But, the store manager bought a second Harley!
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Jessica J. 3 years ago
I've got TWO Bachelor's Degrees, and I am just now crossing the $30,000/yr line...
Alma Muminovic 3 years ago
I couldn’t live off of 30k. Not sure how anyone can, that’s just an insulting amount no matter the job.
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Joann Boyd 3 years ago
I saw a job that required a Masters, and they wanted that for $35K. I'd flip burgers first.
Jim Dunn 3 years ago
Teacher with a Master’s and 9 years experience with at-risk students. Just got to $50K. $125K Student Loans. They will outlive me….
Miss Cris 3 years ago (edited)
Well, in Spain this is paiid $35. :((( That's why thy're in greve!
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censorshipsucks 3 years ago
In our country $40 000/year is middle management. It will buy you a house for $105 800 (three bedrooms), and probably two cars as well.
Michael Largey 3 years ago
This used to be true in the US as well. Then Ronald Reagan.
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Judi Michelle 3 years ago
Bachelors degree hahahaha masters degree in education plus a decade of experience will barely get you above that in most American public school districts
Aaron Self 3 years ago
I... i make that and I took two classes in college and failed both of them.
Dawnieangel76 3 years ago
No college at all & I'm $55K/year after only 6 years at my job, that I actually love.
Mark Kelly 3 years ago (edited)
What? I have a high school education and make a bit more with company paid benefits. Plus, Im in Canada so I automatically get at least 2 weeks vacation to start after a year.
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Vasana Phong 3 years ago
When you paid all your bills/rent , have food until next paycheck, anxiety level down, thats all it takes to make me happy
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That nerd Zoe ️🇺🇦️ 3 years ago
Google "revenge bedtime procrastination" bc I used to do it too, in 5th-6th grade but in 7th my sleep schedule was kinda solidified even on weekends.
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Redfish 3 years ago
I start at 4:30 am, get out at 1 pm, head to second job starting at 1:30, work till 7 pm, get home at 7:25 pm to be in bed by 8 pm to wake up at 3:25 am. It really is crazy.
Brian Stanton 3 years ago
Make more at one or a new gig and cut them out?
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Jane Cortez 3 years ago
Yes, did the same thing for many years because it felt like trading most of my life for pieces of paper was robbing me of a true present. Many days was so deeply exhausted in every regard. Working in my garden, losing track of time, days of the week and listening to the birds is experiencing is what is real. This frenetic concrete construct is not. Throughout the existence of humanity all civilizations have risen and fallen aside from some hunter gatherer societies, It is folly to think we are immune. Greed, competing technologies and materialism are to blame. No one ever wished they had worked more on their deathbed.
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4th Account 3 years ago
Didnt ms do this in a country and their workers productivity go up by 20%?
Another Amy 3 years ago
First time in my career that I don't teach any classes on Fridays. I'm still going to the office to get work done though. Literally life-changing, but unfortunately it will probably never happen again.
Dale Thompson 3 years ago
Try two extra days off haha it’s amazing, work life balance is so important.
Glitterati 3 years ago (edited)
I work 32 hours a week and the rest of the time I spend on childcare, housework and household admin because my husband works 60 hours a week. It’s also a terrible work life balance. It’s just working two jobs.
Miss Cris 3 years ago (edited)
But it isn't because of your 32h. The problem is your husband's 60h. Why is he so selfish with you?
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Bi-Polar Express 3 years ago
Sure. I'm a teacher. Everyone want your kids home three days a week? Or are we the exception?
Miss Cris 3 years ago
It'd mean to contract MORE teachers, so they can do 30 h each others but keep the chldren 50h or whatever this capitalist system needs in order their parents work all day, all days.
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Michael Largey 3 years ago
And people in charge who have a healthy work life balance will ruin yours just so they can keep theirs.
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Vasana Phong 3 years ago
The only time at my old job when my manager ask me in the morning how I’m doing with a smile ( instead of just good morning) is when she wants something, usually cause someone called out the night/Saturday shift
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a fruity dream of delusion 3 years ago
sometimes it feels like you just plunged straight from a warm sauna to a fridge, honestly
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Max Robitzsch 3 years ago
Considering the specific weight of work is heavier, that should balance.
Michael Largey 3 years ago
Then a four-day work week will do it for you. (4*8)/(7*24) is about 0.19, or 19%. (But, yes, there is commuting and stuff.)
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Keblr 3 years ago
This was a perfectly acceptable sacrifice 50 years ago when the office job alone paid for a house, multiple cars, multiple kids, and a stay at home wife
DuchessDegu 3 years ago
And when they got home everything was done so all they needed to do was relax.
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Calane E. Vanya 3 years ago
that's a trap. you're running from orcs & sh*t and he's mostly somewhere else doing Important Things
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Seedy Vine 3 years ago
Because we all have to keep paying for the same piece of land over and over and have our wages and expedutires taxed even though that money has already been taxed over and over.
Ursula Johnson 3 years ago
Audiobooks are a great way to enjoy books. I listen to hundreds of them a year, especially at work.
Eiram 3 years ago
Not the same as reading it yourself. Audio is too slow for me, and the story images would be based on the readers interpretation not mh own.
Load More Replies... Okatango 3 years ago
There are differences between being exploited, doing work you hate and the fulfillment of making a meaningful contribution within reasonable hours and in safety. We all need to contribute, otherwise food would not be grown, shipped or prepared, we would not have power to heat our homes, our roads, bridges and homes would fall into disrepair, no one would treat the sick or find cures, our children would not get educated and so on.
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Linda Lee 3 years ago
There is no overtime pay when you're a salaried employee. I will never take a salaried position again.
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Michael Largey 3 years ago
Bosses are right that it is possible to be in the office and not do your job. Example : them.
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Billy Harrelson 3 years ago
After five years with my company, I got "points" I could redeem for merchandise on a website partnered with the company. Had enough to buy one of those small stick vacuums that barely pick up anything. Could have paid for extra points if I wanted anything more. When I hit 10 years with the company, I didn't get so much as a thank you, mainly because the pandemic hit. Still haven't gotten thanked for putting my life and my family's life on the line for that one, at least not from the company. The client thanked us as best they could but the company only turned around and started hiring people for more money than we were making. Thankfully we were able to fight and get a raise on that one.
Sue User 3 years ago
I got a $5 starbucks giftcard. The closest starbucks is 20 miles. Want to trade ?
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ItsJess 3 years ago
I'm meant to live on the mystery island in Lost with my husband and dogs...
Stannous Flouride 3 years ago
Hope your husband appreciates you giving him top billing.
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Dav Carro-Ripalda 3 years ago
And, who do you want to work for your pleasure and enjoyment on that beach resort? You just want people doing what you do not want to do?
a fruity dream of delusion 3 years ago
idk why i just immediately got reminded of blue hawaii-
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Michael Rowe 3 years ago
I'm only emailing you so I have proof for my supervisor that I've done my due diligence. It will literally be weeks before my supervisor talks to yours.
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Aisling Raye 3 years ago
NGL I'm low key in love with my label maker for reasons like this one.
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Ranger Kanootsen 3 years ago
This is odd... mainly because I don't feel the same about my job. I mean, I totally sympathise with all the people who do. But I like my job! I get to be around animals and nature all day.
martin734 3 years ago
I'm the same, different job and environment but I love my job. I find it extremely rewarding and fulfilling.
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Sanne H. 3 years ago (edited)
I wish I was skilled and certified in a real job, like plumbing, teaching, farming… I believe that people are not meant to be in an office all day, but I’m stuck there and I feel like I can’t do anything else.
Mark Walsh 3 years ago
Employers need to pay people their worth. People are literally giving their all, and what do they get in return? No even enough to survive. In essence, this makes work a form of slavery. Pay your employees enough to thrive, have pensions in place, healthcare, bonuses, if you want them to give their best.
Linda Lee 3 years ago
Can we talk about time off? Paid leave? Vacation time? Sick time? Maternity leave? Mental health days? How about health insurance separate from our jobs that real people can afford, that covers your whole body including teeth and eyes.
Okatango 3 years ago
Almost every developed nation offers that to its citizens, with one glaring exception. It does, however, require higher taxation levels and faith in your government bodies.
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Penny Fan 3 years ago
Last December my boss resigned leaving me, the admin, to run 4 depots, sales, service, logistics as well as admin. I'm proud of the fact that nothing burned down but no, I did not do a 100% perfect job. Then I got a new boss who is a reasonable chap so all good there. The Big Boss however has nitpicked every untrained and unsupported mistake I made and has refused any suggestion of monetary recognition until he gets " a warm and fuzzy feeling" about my work. Well I'm sorry didn't quite succeed in doing 3 people's work but f**k your warm and fuzzy feelings. I need to able to afford to put the lights on.
Perniculous 3 years ago
Pretty soon the ethical work/life balance will mean that even manufacturing jobs must be accommodated to work remotely, and no more than 1 day a week. Remote is fine for pencil pushers, but the VAST majority of work cannot be done in a basement office in your PJs.
Kristal 3 years ago
I've recently had to learn to like, not do my job so fast. I took a tax season Job to save up money and it really took some practice in dragging out the day. Seriously, I didn't realize NOT going super fast is normal. Oh, but no worries, when I had to work overtime for the tax deadline, I totally did that and didn't dilly-dally.
Mandy Delaforce (PC Girl) 3 years ago
I have my "dream" job. 100% remote, hardly working at all. Really good pay. But I struggle. I hate it. I don't know whats wrong, but I really struggle to do anything, but I don't want to return to an office either.
Ranger Kanootsen 3 years ago
This is odd... mainly because I don't feel the same about my job. I mean, I totally sympathise with all the people who do. But I like my job! I get to be around animals and nature all day.
martin734 3 years ago
I'm the same, different job and environment but I love my job. I find it extremely rewarding and fulfilling.
Load More Replies... Sanne H. 3 years ago (edited)
I wish I was skilled and certified in a real job, like plumbing, teaching, farming… I believe that people are not meant to be in an office all day, but I’m stuck there and I feel like I can’t do anything else.
Mark Walsh 3 years ago
Employers need to pay people their worth. People are literally giving their all, and what do they get in return? No even enough to survive. In essence, this makes work a form of slavery. Pay your employees enough to thrive, have pensions in place, healthcare, bonuses, if you want them to give their best.
Linda Lee 3 years ago
Can we talk about time off? Paid leave? Vacation time? Sick time? Maternity leave? Mental health days? How about health insurance separate from our jobs that real people can afford, that covers your whole body including teeth and eyes.
Okatango 3 years ago
Almost every developed nation offers that to its citizens, with one glaring exception. It does, however, require higher taxation levels and faith in your government bodies.
Load More Replies... Penny Fan 3 years ago
Last December my boss resigned leaving me, the admin, to run 4 depots, sales, service, logistics as well as admin. I'm proud of the fact that nothing burned down but no, I did not do a 100% perfect job. Then I got a new boss who is a reasonable chap so all good there. The Big Boss however has nitpicked every untrained and unsupported mistake I made and has refused any suggestion of monetary recognition until he gets " a warm and fuzzy feeling" about my work. Well I'm sorry didn't quite succeed in doing 3 people's work but f**k your warm and fuzzy feelings. I need to able to afford to put the lights on.
Perniculous 3 years ago
Pretty soon the ethical work/life balance will mean that even manufacturing jobs must be accommodated to work remotely, and no more than 1 day a week. Remote is fine for pencil pushers, but the VAST majority of work cannot be done in a basement office in your PJs.
Kristal 3 years ago
I've recently had to learn to like, not do my job so fast. I took a tax season Job to save up money and it really took some practice in dragging out the day. Seriously, I didn't realize NOT going super fast is normal. Oh, but no worries, when I had to work overtime for the tax deadline, I totally did that and didn't dilly-dally.
Mandy Delaforce (PC Girl) 3 years ago
I have my "dream" job. 100% remote, hardly working at all. Really good pay. But I struggle. I hate it. I don't know whats wrong, but I really struggle to do anything, but I don't want to return to an office either.
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